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You don't know what love is in Annie? 30 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: You don't know. 31 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: I don't know, you know. 32 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica and 33 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm Nila and it's Wednesday. Happy Wednesday. I hope you 34 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: guys had a good day at work or whatever the 35 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: fuck you did today. Also aggressive work work or if 36 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: you're listening to this on your way to work Thursday morning, workday, workday? 37 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: What's up? Nothing much? Just try to live my best life? Hmm, 38 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: what's up with you? Nothing? I mean, I mean obviously 39 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: things Patreon We have any Patreon, which was really stressful, 40 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: but I'm really glad it's up. So if you guys, we. 41 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: Have some new Patreon members. Thank you so much for 42 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 2: caring and supporting. 43 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: Thank you for supporting us. 44 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: Also, we've we sent out we sent a requests for 45 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 2: nudes and you guys came through with the news. 46 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we've gotten We got some really good nudes, 47 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: mostly from We had some great ones from women, but 48 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: I was really shocked about the man ones, Like apparently 49 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: all of the men that listen to us have big penises. 50 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: Know why, it's because we have big penis energy, like big, 51 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: like big, big, like scary. 52 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: Like I'm scared that I can handle that. 53 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: It's like, wow, Okay, this is the best. This is 54 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: the best request you've ever put out we got. We 55 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: got a couple of pussy pics. 56 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: We sent a few. 57 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: Don't think if you send news we're just gonna send 58 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: you some back automatically. 59 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: They have to be really impressive only and they will 60 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: only be on that like one replay setting on Instagram. 61 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: Although we did encourage our other male listeners, like just 62 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: send it into the DM. Stop doing the replay, Jamila 63 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: didn't get to see your day, like I'm missing it. 64 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: I keep pressing play right, I'm like okay. 65 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: And also, I you know, I realized it just if 66 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: it's fun, it's fun to send needs to your friends, 67 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: you know, if you don't feel like if anyone to 68 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: feel sexy for feel sexy for us because we appreciate it. 69 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, we appreciate your naked body. Other than that, I 70 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: don't know. It's just it's been it's it's retrograde. I 71 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: feel like my electronics have been fucking up, but I 72 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: electronics and me just don't go well period. So I 73 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: don't even know if it has anything to do with that. 74 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: I have just been a feeling. I don't know. I've 75 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: been feeling a range of emotions. I was feeling like 76 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: super empowered one day because I feel like I like 77 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: expressed my boundaries to someone and I was like, yeah, fuck, 78 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: that feel really strong. And then the next day I 79 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: was like I fucking hate everyone. And then the next 80 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,559 Speaker 1: day I was like okay, and then I repissed me off, 81 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: and then then I did some like desperate like ego 82 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: shit that we'll talk about later in a minute. 83 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:05,559 Speaker 2: Oh you're gonna talk about that, okay, like real rap. Well, 84 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 2: welcome to adulthood. 85 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: I realized the other day, I don't know you had 86 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: left and I was in the backyard with. 87 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: Luna, and I have a storage, and I forgot I 88 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: had a storage, and they called them, like you owe 89 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: us four hundred dollars or we're selling your stuff, and 90 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: I was. 91 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: Just like, A had a child tantrum. 92 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 2: I was like, and then I looked over a Luna 93 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: and she was looking at me, and she's just smiling bright, 94 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: and I was like, really recognized that I had a 95 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 2: real life tantrum, Like I I threw a fit, and I. 96 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: Just realized, Yeah, every day is a gamble. 97 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: Sometimes you're up and you're feeling great and empowered and motivated, 98 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: and some days you. 99 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: Can't get out of fucking bed. And that's adulthood. 100 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: So you're not alone, I don't think. But she just 101 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: really sounds really kind of psycho out loud. 102 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: No, No, I know, I know, I know I'm not alone. 103 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: It's just I don't know. I just feel like it's 104 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: that mid year things are like I don't know, it's summertime. 105 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what. It is, just a lot happening, 106 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: and I feel I feel, really, I feel more comfortable 107 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: with myself than I probably ever have in my life. 108 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: But also so and but also with that comes such 109 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: awareness that my bad choices that I used to make, 110 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: I used to be able to make them and like 111 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: be like whatever, but now like I'm just I make them, 112 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: and then I like hate myself for a little bit 113 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: for a while, yeah, because of them, or I just 114 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: like not even hate, Like there is that. But then 115 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: there's also this part of it where I'm just like 116 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: over analyzing it, Like what does that mean for me? 117 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: Why am I still doing that? Maybe I haven't worked 118 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: past my triggers. Maybe I'm not over my baby daddy. 119 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm you know, like all these things like maybe 120 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: do I want a boyfriend? 121 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: Do? 122 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: Or do I want a boyfriend? Maybe I'm not pata. 123 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: Pattern tells me that I'm meant to walk the lowner's path, 124 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: like it's like a fucking novella. Pattern keeps telling me 125 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm so to be fucking alone my whole life. But 126 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: here I am full of love and ready to give it, 127 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: but no one wants it. Like so that's where I'm 128 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: not welcome, Yeah to adulthood. But I think that's true. 129 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: And I think mostly in the thirties, shit happens and 130 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: then you're so hyper aware of yourself and like, fuck. 131 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: I did that because I have trauma. 132 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: Still, I'm funck, I'm not heeled, I'm fucked up, dody, 133 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:30,559 Speaker 2: did I cry today? 134 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: I Mean I went to therapy the other day and 135 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: my therapist was like, why do you think because I 136 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: was telling her about like what I what I did 137 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: this weekend or last weekend? Which, what did you do, Erica, 138 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: what did you do this weekend? Well last weekend? Okay, 139 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: let's start. 140 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, let's start what let's start what we were 141 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: really drunk? 142 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: Okay? So I had been drinking all day and then 143 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: I went to I invited Jamila and a few friends 144 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: to my baby Daddy's show. He was performing, and so 145 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: I went to see his show. And why I went 146 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: to see his show, or why I've gone to see 147 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: multiples of his show? This is like the second round 148 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: of shows in two weeks. Yeah, like I've been, you know, 149 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: supporting his shows and supporting him because maybe I think 150 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: I think part of it is because it's what I'm 151 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: used to doing with him when he's here, just in 152 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: our relationship. I just support him, even like when I'm 153 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: mad at him, I want to support him. But I 154 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: know a lot of it also has to do with ego, 155 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: because I wanted to go and see, like what's going 156 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: on over there? What's happening? What's happening there? See there's 157 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: girls there? I don't know, like maybe a little bit, 158 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: but also like who are you hanging around? Just checking 159 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: in general, just because I don't always trust the people 160 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: he keeps close and those people also are around my kid, 161 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: which I told my therapists, and she goes, this is 162 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: not really. 163 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 2: Why Oh you got a real one? 164 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, therapist not be playing. She like, is that really 165 00:08:54,400 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: why you went? Erica? I think so. Also, I don't know. 166 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. Anyway, We've just been on good terms lately, 167 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: we haven't been arguing. And I was like, you know, 168 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: I know he's you know, work makes him happy. It's 169 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: when he's the happiest in all aspects of life. And 170 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: I love him and I love to see him happy, 171 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: and so I know, I feel like I haven't been 172 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: I haven't seen that in a long time, and so 173 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: I wanted to. I guess part of me like likes 174 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: to witness him in his element. So anyway, I went 175 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: to the show. I brought my girls. It was fun. 176 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: It just kept drinking, drinking, drinking, and then his show 177 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: ends and we go back to the dressing room and 178 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: I have to go pee, and so I walk into 179 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: the bathroom and he's in the bathroom, and I'm like, well, 180 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: fuck it. He's seen me pee four hundred thousand times, 181 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: so whatever. So I pulled down my pants and then 182 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: my phone drops in the toilet and then I like, 183 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get it out. My pants are half down, 184 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: and I'm like drunk, and it's kind of a hot mess, 185 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: and I'm like laughing. And then he's laughing and he's 186 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: helping me get my phone out of the toilet and 187 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: it's all wet and it's gross, and then suddenly we're close, 188 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: and then and then I kissed him. Oh my god. 189 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: My self proclaimed I never never, I've never done it, 190 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: which I was honestly. I was out the room. I 191 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: mean I was in the room, but we're waiting for 192 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: her to come out the bathroom. Someone else had to pee, 193 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: one of our friends, one of her very investigative friends. 194 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: And I'm so drunk. But after first I was sitting 195 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 2: away from them and I was looking at them and 196 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 2: I'm like, hm, she has been there a minute. So 197 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 2: I moved next to them, like she's been in there 198 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 2: a long time. I'm like, yeah, but I'm not worried 199 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: about that. There's nothing happening in that bath there. Then 200 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 2: like three more minutes go by, I'm like, hmmm, could 201 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 2: it be. It's like no, there's no way, there's no way. 202 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: And like two more minutes go by and she's like, oh, 203 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: I know something's happening in that and I'm like, no, 204 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: there's no way. And then I'm like, what the fuck 205 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: is happening in that bathroom? So then she comes out 206 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: all guilty looking damn sure enough, you overst the baby 207 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: daddy boundary. I mean I've done it like four thousand times. 208 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: Just like the moment I did it, I felt regret 209 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: and like, I don't know, like I did it and 210 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: I saw it happening. It was like slow motion, like 211 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: I saw his face like coming towards me. I specifically 212 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: remember his teeth for some reason, I don't know. He 213 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: was smiling and I said, and then finally I knew 214 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: she loved me. And then at the moment I walked 215 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: out of the bathroom, my friend Jessica was like her 216 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: head like she was literally the first person I saw 217 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: her head like popped out of the crowd and was like, 218 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: what are you doing? And I was like, oh my god, 219 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: like judgment. Fuck, So yeah, I did that. Did you 220 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: feel anything? Was that where you did it? To if 221 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: he's to see if you would feel anything. I think 222 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: part of it was that it was a culmination of things, 223 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: and that's why I'm saying, like I can't make bad 224 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: choices anymore and then not over analyze them. And like 225 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: part of me, like in my analyzation is that word animalization. 226 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: It sounds about right. Of what how this came to 227 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: be is I think a large part of it is ego, 228 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: because I just felt like I wanted to assert myself 229 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: in the room and in that situation, I wanted to 230 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: make sure. I wanted to see if he would still 231 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: be receptive to me, which I kind of knew he would, 232 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: but I wanted I also wanted to see if I 233 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: could if I felt anything. I was, I've been horny. 234 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: It was just like a bunch of things, like I 235 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: just watched him on stage, which you know is a 236 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: turn on, like whether or not I want to admit 237 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: it or not watching someone in their element. So it 238 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: was just it was just all fucked up, and I 239 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: feel really guilty about it. I just feel like I 240 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: didn't want to lead him on and make him think like, Okay, 241 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: now we're gonna get back together and now there's a 242 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 1: future between us, and that's been like why I've been 243 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: so adamant about not doing that, and also because I 244 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: just haven't wanted to, you know, and I was just 245 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: beating myself up about it. And so anyway, I talked 246 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: to my therapist and I was telling her what I 247 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: did and she was like, well, why do you think 248 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: you did that? And I told her all those reasons 249 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: and she said, yeah, but there's something deeper than that. 250 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: I was like, what daddy issues because obviously, like that's 251 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: like where everyone goes yeah, and she said well yeah, 252 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: and I said, well, of course I have daddy issues, 253 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: like that's not a secret. And she's like, yeah, but 254 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: like what is it that you know? What are your 255 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: daddy issues? Like did you not feel secure? Did you 256 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: need you didn't get the attention you want. I was like, 257 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: it's all those things. And as we started talking about it, 258 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: I started getting emotional about talking about my dad, which 259 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: I feel like I've I thought I've worked past all 260 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: those things. I mean, but I guess there's still a 261 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: part of me. Obviously. She's like, there's still that little 262 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: girl inside of you that hasn't worked past it, which 263 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: is why you're getting emotional now, which is why you 264 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: are always seek male attention. If you don't get it 265 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: from the person you want, you're going to get it 266 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: from somewhere, somehow else. And that's always true for me. 267 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: Like, oh, like, if you're not getting male attention from 268 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 2: the person you want to get it from, you'll divert 269 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: it to the next person. 270 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: I think it's just yeah, I mean, is that human nature? Though? 271 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: Well she said no, oh okay, she said no, that's 272 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: daddy issues, because that's what I said. I said, well, 273 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: don't women do that. She's like no, I was like, 274 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: I She's like, I was raised by my dad. My 275 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: issues are my mom issues. I don't seek male attention, 276 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: don't I don't feel like I need that if I'm 277 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: not getting male attention from someone whatever, you know, And 278 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: she's like, obviously, there's a lot of factors that play 279 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: into play into that. It's not solely one thing, but 280 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: a lot of it is rooted. And you know, your 281 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: first you know, the first male figure in your life, 282 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: whether he was there, whether he was wasn't there. Maybe 283 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: he was there but wasn't giving you the attention you wanted, 284 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: wasn't showing up for you in the ways you wanted 285 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: them to show up for you and all those things 286 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: are true for me. And she's said, and I said, Okay, 287 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: what am I supposed to do about that? Like how 288 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: do I She's like, well, when you feel the need 289 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: to for male attention, when you know it's not necessarily 290 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: it's not real, then you need to talk check in 291 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: with yourself and be like do I really do I 292 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: really want this and be strong enough to say don't say, well, 293 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: fuck it, I just want to do what I want 294 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: to do, because that's what I do. Often. I'm aware 295 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: of it, but I'm like, whatever, I'll deal with the better. 296 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: And the more I keep doing that, the more this 297 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: is just gonna continue going. And like I don't want 298 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: it to continue or I don't want to confuse my 299 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: relationship with my father, my daughter's father, Like we're in 300 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: a really good place, like we've been getting along really well, 301 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: and this is what I asked for, This is what 302 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: I asked for. I want. I wanted to have a 303 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: relationship with him. I wanted to have a friendship with him, 304 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: and that's what we're working towards. And it's not enough 305 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: now now that he's giving me what I want, Now 306 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: I want more. I want his attention. I want him 307 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: to want me. You know, it's so fucked up. It is. 308 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: It is. And you know what, when you're used to like. 309 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: Having a companion, the way you're close with your baby daddy, 310 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: the way I'm close I was, We were close in 311 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: those spaces, it's like almost like routine to be in this, 312 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: to be an certain way. I'll write a show together. 313 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: Oh it's not a video of PE's not a video 314 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: because like because that's what it is. It's comfortability, Like 315 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: this is my homie almost, And so the loss of that. 316 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: I don't think people like women recognize there's a morning 317 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,119 Speaker 2: that takes place in any breakup early. 318 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: But this, particularly when it's with the person you've. 319 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: Created a child with, You've never experienced that with anyone before. 320 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: Like this is a very vulnerable place, and as women 321 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: and society tells us, like there's something it's supposed to happen. 322 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: We're supposed to work. 323 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: With a fucking picket fence, even when you know they're crazy, 324 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: even when they know it doesn't work. But like it's 325 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: I can get I get emotional now still with shit 326 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 2: with my baby daddy, just because it's still such a. 327 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: It's still such a like a vulnerable place. 328 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: Uh and even not even just that likely who tapt 329 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: like go backwards, but also healing from it, like you 330 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 2: know what I mean reopening that Have you really healed 331 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: from the pain that he's inflicted on you? And can 332 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 2: you imagine overstepping that boundary when that wound is still 333 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 2: not completely healed. I was at one of my girlfriend's 334 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 2: house and she's engaged, but the guy talks to her 335 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: crazy and it's on a regular basis, and it's to 336 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: the point where I'm like, yo, chill and I've said 337 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: something and then like, don't say anything. 338 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: It's not your place. And it's like, okay, I. 339 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: Get it, but like yes, like the other day, I 340 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: was like he did something. I'm like squeezing her, like 341 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 2: you know what, something is uncomfortable, you like push your 342 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: friend's knee or something. 343 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: And afterwards it was just annoying. 344 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 2: It just bothered me, and I realized I was triggered 345 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: because I've been in a relationship that was. 346 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: Verbally abusive, that was abusive, and it just. 347 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: I just realized how triggered I am by it by 348 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 2: seeing someone else experience it and them being so numb 349 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: to it, and it just made me realize, like there's 350 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 2: so much healing that still has to take place, and 351 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 2: we haven't been together in three years. 352 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: I know it's it's it's so true because I realized too, 353 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: Like I thought that even when I was talking to 354 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: my therapist and she was saying I was like, well 355 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: she was, I was. She said, you guys, they're still 356 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: healing to be done. I know you want to be friends, Erica, 357 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: but I don't know if that's possible. Like, you guys 358 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: need to just be co parenting, like you can't because 359 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: if you don't, then you're just gonna keep going in 360 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: this limbo, in this cycle. You like, and you don't 361 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: want to repeat what you repeated the other night, right, 362 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: because that's not really what you want. You don't want 363 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,239 Speaker 1: to fall down that trap. You don't want to lead 364 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: him on and then have him, you know, end up 365 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: being mad at you later and then having to basically 366 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: do a whole like reheal everything all over again. 367 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 2: You were like, really, my baby, we still are my 368 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 2: baby mama idol in that sense, I'm like, well, this 369 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: bitch is never backs up and I've and we both. 370 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: Have our baby mama idol single baby mama you're my single. 371 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: Baby mama idol because you never mess back with your 372 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 2: baby daddy after it was over. 373 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: It's so admirable. Girl. It's real hard out here, but 374 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: somebody has to do. Wait. 375 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: I was looking empty for the longest, but now now 376 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: I'm just normal and basically like everybody else. 377 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly just made out, which is great, bitch 378 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: like me. And actually he pulled away. 379 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: Mmmm wait, like so you would have maybe continued. Probably 380 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: I was drunk, oh right, so like if you would 381 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: have turned you over back? 382 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: Maybe not maybe, I don't know who knows, but he 383 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: probably was like what's happening? He probably yeah. And then 384 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: and then because we're in the bathroom and I was 385 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: drunk when we pulled away, then he was he was 386 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: like getting dressed when this was happening. So then he 387 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: was getting dressed like he was naked, and he was 388 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: like putting clothes on. And then I was in the background, 389 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: like the mirrors in front of it, like we're both 390 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: facing the mirror, but I'm against the wall and he's 391 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: getting dressed, and I I just like was making all 392 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: these faces because I was like having so much turmoil happen. 393 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: I was just like what do I do? Oh my god, Okay, 394 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: wait it's fine. No, wait it's not okay. Wait what 395 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: is he gonna think? Fuck? I'm drunk? Oh my god. 396 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: And then like I see him looking at me and 397 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: he's like, are you okay? How drunk were you didn't 398 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: realize that he could see you? And I don't know. 399 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: It was just like couldn't help it. You know, I'm 400 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: like one of those people that it's really hard my 401 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: facial expressions. I can't get them together as much as 402 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: I try, especially with Tequila's involved. Like I don't know, 403 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: I just didn't give a fuck, And until I realized 404 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: he saw all the facial expressions that I was making, 405 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: which was like fear, anxiety, like drunkness, like regret, confusion, 406 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: like it was all wrapped in one. And then I 407 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: looked at myself in the mir and I was like, 408 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: oh god. And so it was just and then you 409 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: know what annoyed me afterwards, which is so also ego driven, 410 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: because after we left, we got out of the room 411 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: and we sat down and everyone was probably like, what 412 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: the fuck do they do? And they I probably thought 413 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: we had sex, which we did not. I asked him. 414 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: I said I was like, so, what are you doing tonight? 415 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: Because apparently I cared and he was like, I'm gonna go. 416 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go to the strip club. And 417 00:20:53,760 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: I was immediately triggered and pissed because there's no reason 418 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: for me to be but because because I was just like, 419 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 1: so you don't want to hang out with me? The fuck? Also, 420 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: the strip club you spent like he spent most of 421 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: my pregnancy in the strip club, And that was this 422 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: is a trigger for you. It's a super trigger for me. 423 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: I don't trust strippers the offense. If you're one, I 424 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: just have had bad experiences. And I was just like, Nikka, 425 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: I just fucking kissed you, and you can go to 426 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: the motherfuckers strip club. And then I was like, where 427 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: which strip club you at? Carson? I was like Carson. 428 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, Okay, this is why 429 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: this is why we're not. You don't even go to 430 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,239 Speaker 1: the good show. You don't even go to the good one. Well, 431 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: maybe maybe there's a good one out there. I know 432 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: you don't know, but all those things, why does that 433 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: matter to me? It shouldn't matter. And then the next 434 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: day didn't matter. Like the next day after I wasn't drunk, 435 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: and I wasn't emotional for no fucking reason. I was like, yeah, 436 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: of course he's going to the strip club. That's what 437 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: he does, you know, And like that's what and that's 438 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: what he should do. That's who he is, and that's 439 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: no judgment. That's what brings him joy and makes him 440 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: and that's what he wants to do after a successful show, 441 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: then by all means, go do that. It's not my 442 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: place to be mad at him about it, and I 443 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: like was mad. I was annoyed with myself that I 444 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: got annoyed, got annoyed, and then I judged him and 445 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: all those things because he's doing what the fuck he 446 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: wants to do. 447 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 2: Did your therapist offer you any advice, like actively right 448 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: now in your adulthood, like what can help daddy issues, 449 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 2: like spending more time with your dad right now to 450 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: like maybe well. 451 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: She asked, She asked about the state of my relationship 452 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: with him right now, and I told him I to 453 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: re fine. I was. I was like, she's liked you 454 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: see him often. I was like, no, does that bother you? 455 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: I said, you know it does sometimes, only because I 456 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: see him out with my brothers and sisters. And he 457 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: very plays an active role in their life. But I've 458 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: almost got become numb to it at this point, and 459 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: it's not And some of it has to do with 460 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: me too. I don't always make the effort either. You know, therapies, 461 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: you like he therapies. 462 00:22:59,200 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: Me. 463 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: I do you think it's healthy to be numb to it? 464 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: Because obviously, no, it's not. It's absolutely unhealthy. And that's 465 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: why I kissed my baby daddy. 466 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 2: Okay, right, But she also trikes me to the conclusion 467 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: of why we're here. 468 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: Well, she said that I just need to figure out 469 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: how to play the role that my dad didn't. I'm 470 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: never going to get back those those years. So whatever 471 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: it is that that's missing for me, I need to 472 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: find out how to fulfill that within myself by myself, 473 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: and not try to find a man to fulfill those 474 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: things because I'll constantly be disappointed. And I know that. 475 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: I know that, And I told her, I said, yeah, 476 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: that all sounds good. I already know that, but like. 477 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: Why don't you just ask your dad to like go 478 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: on a dinner date every two weeks instead of day? 479 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: Maybe? I mean, yeah, I need to make a bigger 480 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: effort and. 481 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 2: Be like okay, like, let's every second Monday, let's go 482 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: out to dinner. 483 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: And I told her And I told her, She's like, 484 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: are you happy with the state of your relationship? I said, 485 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. And I said, but if my 486 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: dad were to die today, would I be Would I 487 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: have regrets about the state of our relationship? Absolutely? And 488 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: she's like, if you can say that, then you need 489 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: to do work. Yeah, like a period. I mean there's 490 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:05,959 Speaker 1: And I was like, but I feel like I can 491 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: say that about Addy. 492 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. But that's taking it so deep. Wow, Eric, 493 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 2: you know I'm deep. 494 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: But because I think about death a lot, and do 495 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: you I do, Yeah, not in like a negative way, 496 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: but I think about like the people in my life 497 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: not being here one day and when how that would 498 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: make me feel, and how I deal with that and 499 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: how I navigate my relationships in that way. Well, I 500 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: guess that's healthy because it's true we're all going to 501 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: die one day, because that's really like when it comes, 502 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: that's when someone dies. That's when you fucking everything that 503 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: you've held so tightly too doesn't matter anymore. Like it 504 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: won't matter to me that my dad wasn't around. It's 505 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: going to matter to me. What did I do after 506 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: that to make it better? You know, like I can't 507 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: take back those years. I can't take back who he 508 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: was when he was in his early twenties as a 509 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: pro athlete that you know, his friends didn't want him 510 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: to have kids. He was just being a womanizer. Like, 511 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: I can't do anything about that, right, So I do 512 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,719 Speaker 1: need to. I feel like I realized that I do. 513 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: You're right, I need to make a big effort to 514 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: hang out with him. I think I think I've gotten 515 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: to the point it's a habit now where I'm just like, well, 516 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: if you're not gonna make an effort, I'm not. And 517 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: it's not even in a negative way. It's just like 518 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: it is what it is, right, you know. So that happened, 519 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: and then I also ended my dating situation. It's with 520 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: happy Bay. I feel like this is like the fourth 521 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: time you've said that. No, but like really ended it 522 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: when you Bay, but you have said I don't think 523 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: I've said it on the podcast, but I said we 524 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: should just like yeah, but then we didn't really and 525 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: we're still telling each other we love each other and 526 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: dah dah da da dah. And I just had to 527 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: like really lay realize that, like I, I've been treating 528 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: him like my boyfriend when he's not my boyfriend. Why 529 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: do I do that? Why would he ever want to 530 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: be my boyfriend if I'm already giving him boyfriend privileges. 531 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: And that's what women do, not all women, but I 532 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: do because I'm a nurturer, you know. I want you 533 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: to feel loved. I want to give you my love. 534 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: I want to spend all my time with you. I 535 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: don't like playing games. I'm not good at them. I 536 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: can do it for like a few days, and then 537 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck this, Well, we're all or nothing. You know, 538 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: when you like someone, it's. 539 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: Easy to be infatuated and go all out and want 540 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 2: to show like your peacock feathers, like look at these 541 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: dance moves, look at these. 542 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: Meal I can't cook, you know, So I get it. 543 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 2: I was with some when we discussed what we might 544 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: be talking about today, as with some guys, and I 545 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 2: brought this up. 546 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I like follow it all the way, but. 547 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: Basically, yeah, why initiate a conversation if anything seriousness, if 548 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,479 Speaker 2: you're comfortable. 549 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: Wait, what do you mean? Oh? Why why why make girls, 550 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: I was asking. 551 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 2: How often do you as how do you how often 552 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 2: like if a woman doesn't bring up the conversation, how 553 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 2: often have you brought it up? 554 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: Like, hey, what are we doing here? 555 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: Like when you really fuck with a woman, does it 556 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: inevitably come up in your mind? 557 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: Or is that something that you write it out? You 558 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: write it out or you wait for the woman to 559 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: bring it up. 560 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I asked them, because because I've been 561 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 2: victim of like not being in relationships because I'm so 562 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 2: cool and I don't care and I'm not having that 563 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: conversation because it doesn't matter to me. And I also 564 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 2: feel like it's like a conversation a man should initiate 565 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: if you want, like I want you to be in 566 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: a space where you're like, oh, I value you, I 567 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 2: want to be with you, like I let's explore like 568 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 2: who we are in each other's lives. I would like 569 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 2: a man to initiate that conversation. Nine times out of ten, 570 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 2: these niggas don't. But that's ideal, But I just feel like, 571 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 2: the fuck what was I saying? 572 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: I said that, Oh they said that they don't do that. 573 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So one of the guys at the table 574 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: he was forty six. He had been married for I 575 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 2: think seventeen years. He said, he's only done that twice 576 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 2: in his life, once with his first wife and now 577 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: once with the woman he's with now. It took him, 578 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: he said, he got bamboozled the first time by his 579 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 2: first wife, his kid's mom. Then they have good he said, 580 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 2: we have a good relationship. I paid for her and 581 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 2: her new husband's reception, Like we just came from dinner. 582 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: He's like, the second how does that make the husband feel? 583 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: I don't know. 584 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 2: I would assume here should be thrilled. And this is 585 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: the second one, he said. It took me four years. 586 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: To They were dating just casually, he. 587 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 2: Said, but she was doing all the right ship And 588 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: he said, I just would I refuse to get bamboozled again. 589 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: So he did have it. He did do it again, 590 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 2: but it took him four years. Well did was she allus? 591 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 2: Was she under the impression they we already boyfriend and girlfriend? 592 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 4: Like no talking about a proposal or proposal? See that's 593 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 4: what I said. Four years I said, she having sex 594 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 4: with other people? 595 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: He said, even if she wasn't, I assumed that she 596 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 2: was because I was. I was so tainted by the 597 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: first situation. 598 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: So that's why. Well maybe they were farther along in 599 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: their life too, where they don't want any kids, marriage 600 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: isn't that important, so that they can not they can 601 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: navigate in that space more, whereas me, I want, I want, 602 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: maybe want another kid, and I you know, it's just 603 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: I mean, and you know, I talked to Happy Bay 604 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: and I told him, like we actually had lunch, you know, 605 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: after I told him that, like we really we can't date, 606 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: we're not intimate. It's just friendship, and like I need space. 607 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: We did have lunch, and I told him, like, you know, 608 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: I didn't end it with you because I wanted you to, 609 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: because I want you to be my boyfriend. Like it 610 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: was like this isn't going anywhere. Are you my boyfriend? 611 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: And he was like, you did it. That's not why 612 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: you that's not why. That's not the reason. And I know, 613 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: like the black and white reason that's probably very black 614 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: and white for men, Like it's like, well, she must 615 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: have endered it because we're not. No, it's because I 616 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: don't actually know where we're going, Like yeah, I don't 617 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: know that we even want the same thing. Yeah, Like 618 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: it's like, are we going like, are we heading that 619 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: direction or are we just like enjoying each other's company indefinitely, 620 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: because like, for me, like I'm not really good at 621 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: enjoying someone's company and being saying I love you and 622 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: then it being casual, because that's what we were doing. 623 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: We were saying I love you, I'm in love with you. 624 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: We had very like intense moments of like people have 625 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: had to. We've shared some beautiful moments that I'm so 626 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: grateful for, but it's confusing to my heart and my body, 627 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: and my body kept telling me like, this doesn't feel good. 628 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: Why do you keep doing this? Why could you? 629 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 2: Felt like I was in limbell that he could be 630 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 2: sharing those same intimates with someone else. 631 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: I felt triggered because I've never felt safe in a relationship. 632 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: I've never felt safe emotionally, I've never felt safe physically 633 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: my body like, and being in an open dating relationship 634 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: doesn't feel safe, Like this doesn't feel like safety to me. 635 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like security. And it's not that I 636 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: and I told him, I was like, I'm not that 637 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: I want to possess you, because I don't. It's just 638 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: that I need to know that like we're building something 639 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: sacred that's going somewhere at some point. He constantly was 640 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: so adamant about telling me I need my freedom, I 641 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: need my freedom. I need me to the point where 642 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, nigga, then why are you then why 643 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: are we doing this? Like, go have your freedom? Am 644 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: I in hinging on your freedom? Don't think so? It 645 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: just doesn't seem like we were in line, And I 646 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: just felt like I was. It was just taking up 647 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: a lot of space in my life. 648 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: So you're giving him girlfriend treatment. He wasn't giving you 649 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 2: boyfriend treatment. 650 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I was driving. You felt like you were getting 651 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: a short end of this stick kind of yeah. And 652 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: and it's really my fault because he told me what 653 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: he was capable of, you know, and and you saw 654 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: and I saw it, and he showed me over and 655 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: over and over again. It was me like wanting to 656 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, well I can handle this. Maybe this 657 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: is what I need. This is what I need, but 658 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how to give it that. I don't 659 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: know how to give that way. I'm like, well, do 660 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: you do you want to? You want someone who's just 661 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: going to show up as in. 662 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 2: Like with the same amount of energy and the same 663 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 2: amount or didn't want to be a boyfriend or someone 664 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 2: who eventually wants to be in a relationship. 665 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: And eventually I just look like, for there's things that 666 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,719 Speaker 1: he had he like we're we're seriously dating. There's things 667 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: that he hasn't done for me that are important to 668 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: me that I can't expect to be done just because 669 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: we become boyfriend and girlfriend, Like just because okay, now 670 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: we're boyfriend and girlfriend. So now all those things that 671 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: like you didn't do before, now you're gonna start doing, right, 672 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: Like no, that's how you get fucking disappointed, right, and 673 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: then you're like what the fuck? So like I just 674 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: had to understand who meet him where he is right now, 675 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: and this is who you are and accept and accept 676 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,479 Speaker 1: that and that that was really hard because like I 677 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: could still be dating him right now, I could still 678 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: be like doing this thing, but like you know, I 679 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: had to, like and that's what I was saying, Like 680 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: I felt good about the other day setting boundaries. I 681 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: really had to set a serious boundary for myself and 682 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: be like this doesn't feel good. Stop it. Stop normalizing 683 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: shit that is not normal for your for your who 684 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: you are in your core, Stop denying who you are 685 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: on your core because you want to be this free 686 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: open I don't care, and it's it's not like you 687 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: can't be It's not that you're not like that in 688 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: some ways, but you also know what feels good to 689 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: you and stop judging yourself for that and making you 690 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: feel like, well, maybe it only feels good to me 691 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: because you know daddy is well, well, well it's okay. 692 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: I think it's okay. 693 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 2: Challenge yourself and be like, you know, why am I 694 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 2: feeling this way? But I think it's also acknowledged, like oh, 695 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: because maybe this person's not giving me what I deserve 696 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 2: and that's why it doesn't feel good. 697 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: And I think I'm so proud of you. 698 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 2: That's a big deal because the more you do that, 699 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 2: the easier it will become, the more like the quicker 700 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: will be won't be nine months later and you're life 701 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 2: right because so this is also I know, you know, 702 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 2: like a huge, a huge I think, like, uh thing 703 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: I keep hearing a lot and a lot of my 704 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: friends like theme, and a lot of my friends who 705 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 2: are in relationships, are in marriages is issues like deal 706 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 2: breaking issues in their marriage and my own my first 707 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 2: questions always was that present in the beginning, and all 708 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 2: of them say yes, every single I can't think of 709 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 2: one situation like no, this is how it's always been. 710 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: And I see how much we fuck ourselves wanting something 711 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 2: to be something something that it's not, or you think 712 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 2: you can work on it, work on it, and not 713 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 2: being you know, aligned with your five unbreakables, frozen five 714 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 2: for your frozen five, because I don't want to waste 715 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 2: two years shit I don't know, six months dealing with 716 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 2: somebody who may they have all these other qualities, but 717 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 2: this one quality I can change. I know they'll change, 718 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 2: because that shit doesn't change. And then you've married, you've 719 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 2: had kids, you've bought houses, and you're all intertwined and 720 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 2: it seems impossible to move forward and move on. But 721 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 2: because you've lied to yourself, and if we can be 722 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 2: more in tune with what doesn't feel. 723 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: Good, then we could cut a lot of that bullshit out. 724 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: I feel like for me, I know, my body literally 725 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: tells me every time, and I constantly reject it. And 726 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: when I don't reject it, it flows so much better. 727 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: But it's sometimes not in line with what my brain 728 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: wants or what my mind I think my mind wants 729 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: and what I think I need or what I can tolerate, 730 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: and it's like no, So like setting that boundary was 731 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: really totally based out of my body, because my body 732 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: and like the way I feel, have not been feeling good. 733 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: Every time I think about that person. It's not filled 734 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: with joy like the way it was and uncertain. I 735 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: have to acknowledge it and stop denying it, and I 736 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: feel better about it, and I just hope hopefully my 737 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: next situation or whatever that comes, I just know I 738 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: can't be giving these niggas fucking boyfriend privileges when you're not. 739 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't feel good to me, like that would feel great, 740 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: like we've worked towards something and now like, well, I 741 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: think what it does is it creates an illusion. When 742 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: you start treating someone like they're your man. It's fun. 743 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: It's like playing house, you know, it is like playing Yeah, 744 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: it's like it's so sick. It's sick. It's like it 745 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 1: really is like playing house. 746 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 2: And so you create this illusion like I'm in love, 747 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 2: I love people having sex, I'm cooking breakfast. 748 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: Hey baby, i'm massaging you. We're having sex without a condom. 749 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: And then you leave and then you go home and 750 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 1: then you're like, oh my god, when is he gonna 751 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: call me again? Is he calling me? Oh my god, 752 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: it's been like two days. Hasn't called you this? But 753 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: I made you breakfast and I fucking we like kissed 754 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 1: in the rain and shit, like you know, it's just 755 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: like oh, anyway, I know right, kissed in the rain. 756 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: It's like a real thing. Like remember that time we 757 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: were holding hands in the rain and you told me. 758 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 2: We have that movie moment, don't watch movies moment. I'm 759 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 2: so happy I'm not the only psycho. 760 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: It's not psycho. 761 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 2: It's real because literally I was like holding's hand in 762 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 2: the rain, I love you, and I was like, this 763 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 2: is us, this moment, it's us forever to break out 764 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 2: in song. Anyway, we need to work on our sanity. 765 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I'm glad I'm making progress, but I'm 766 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,479 Speaker 1: one step forward like two steps back. Yes, yes, that's 767 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: such a thing. 768 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 2: And I really had to reflect on that this year 769 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 2: because I was like, I thought I was making so 770 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 2: much progress, but no, I don't anymore. I feel like 771 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 2: I'm still like I didn't have sex for six months. 772 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: You are, you are though you are, and you can 773 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: start whenever again. Whenever you want. You know what I mean? 774 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: It's like no, but I just mean like, I don't 775 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: mean sex, I don't mean in anything. Yeah, I know. Okay, 776 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: so obviously our life's kind of in shambles right now, 777 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:21,240 Speaker 1: but someone wants our advice something. Not sure why, let's 778 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: read it. 779 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 2: My kid's dad and I broke up a couple of 780 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 2: years ago. I have absolutely no feelings for him, and 781 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 2: we don't talk too much. We are in a good 782 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 2: place for the most part. However, he still does secretive, 783 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 2: shady shit without telling me. While I have no cares 784 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 2: about him, I do care what goes on when he 785 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 2: has my daughters. Sometimes he will have them shut off 786 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 2: their phones. He denies it so I can't see where 787 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 2: they're at and other similar stuff. I don't know if 788 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 2: he's doing this just to aggravate me, but I really 789 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 2: dislike how he blatantly lies right to my face. So 790 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 2: I just found out, not by him, of course, that 791 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 2: he moved in with the girl, and my daughters already know, 792 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 2: and my daughters already know sorry her, and have been 793 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 2: spending time there. Okay, I knew this day would come, 794 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 2: but he chose not to mention it. He was introducing 795 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,479 Speaker 2: my daughters to a whole new person. It gets under 796 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,919 Speaker 2: my skin even more because he did this years ago 797 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 2: when my kids were smaller and had a whole other 798 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 2: baby without me knowing. My kids were too small to 799 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 2: even be able to tell me, so you can understand 800 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 2: my frustration. So I plan on meeting up with this 801 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 2: girl and learning more about her as she is going 802 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 2: to be around my kids. I've never had to deal 803 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 2: with this, and I'm clueless on where to meet. Any 804 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 2: advice on how to do this in a non aggressive way. 805 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 1: Laugh out loud. It's not the other girl's fault. It's 806 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: your baby daddy's fault that he didn't communicate this. So 807 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: you have to go in meeting her not mad at her, right, 808 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: don't you agree? I agree? I think the more copeesthetic, 809 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 1: the better you know. 810 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 2: You need to actually get to know her, and that 811 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 2: requires being chill. 812 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: Maybe meet in a made at a coffee shop or something, 813 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: or at your house is too no, it needs to 814 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: be an even playing field so they both feel comfortable. 815 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do about well, firstly the 816 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: baby daddy issue, Like, I'm not really sure how to 817 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 1: resolve that. Obviously he lies and it can't be honest, 818 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: I'm not sure there's anything you can actually do about that. 819 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: All you're really only resource now or I think best 820 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: option is trying to meet with this girl, see how 821 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: she is. If she seems cool, then try to build 822 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: a good rapport with her, because she could be an 823 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: ally to you. Actually, I feel like, you know, obviously 824 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: her loyalty is going to be to your baby daddy. 825 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 1: But if women, hopefully, I think at the root of us, 826 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: we like, you know, have a connection and like a sisterhood, 827 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: and that if she's gonna be spending time with your kids, 828 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: if she's a good person, like you know, hopefully. 829 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like anybody should be able to understand. 830 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 2: You have my greatest prize possession. I need to know 831 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 2: who you are. I want us to have a relationship 832 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 2: because it's important to me because you're going to be 833 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 2: around have a relationship with Mike kids obviously if you 834 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 2: guys are living together, and I think it's important that 835 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 2: you let your baby daddy know that, Like, there's really 836 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 2: no reason to hide anything from me. 837 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 1: I'm not here to like, maybe he needs to know 838 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: I'm not I don't want you, I. 839 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 2: Don't care and and you should tell him like if 840 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 2: the lies really trigger me, and you know why, I mean, 841 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 2: obviously you had another baby. Like I would just prefer 842 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 2: from here on out, like let's just co parent from 843 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 2: an honest place because we're just friends and I don't 844 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 2: really give a fuck, So just you could keep it 845 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 2: real with me. You know, maybe it just comes to 846 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 2: just being mature and like the homie approach. 847 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, but try not to be a bitch to the babe, 848 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: to the girl unless she's a bitch and then in 849 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: that case, beat your ass. No, but yeah, what she 850 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: is a bitch? That's she'll have to ride in again 851 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: because I got to think about that one and I we're 852 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: running out of time. Okay, Well, anyway, thank you guys 853 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: for tuning in. We are having a meet up August 854 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: tenth at the Hollywood f for Cemetery again because y'all, bitches, 855 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,240 Speaker 1: we're scared of the Exorcist, so we picked a better 856 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: movie and it's bomb. It is Boys in the Hood 857 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: by John Singleton our IP So make sure you buy 858 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: your tickets at Sinnespia dot com asap and check out 859 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,439 Speaker 1: our evite and rs VP so we know you're coming 860 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: and we can reserve a space for you. Twest. 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Also it's 865 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: a picnic, so you can just picnic and drink wine 866 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,439 Speaker 1: and it's a pot luck and hopefully ice Cube comes out. 867 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: It's like, I'm really trying to manifest ice cbe coming out. 868 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and shout out to people who came last weekend 869 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 2: because we. 870 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: Had a Yeah, we had a really good time and 871 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: the Exorcist is still fucking scary it is. Anyway, Well, 872 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: good bye Juesday. 873 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 3: You know what love is, but I swear I've never 874 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 3: seen it in your life. Oh I swear I've never 875 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 3: seen it in your life. 876 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: Oh h m hmm. 877 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 3: I swear I've never seen it in your life.