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Speaker 3: John Schier, the Duke head coach, will join us coming
Speaker 3: up here in about fifteen minutes as he advances to
Speaker 3: the Final four, one of eight people as a player
Speaker 3: and a coach to go to the final four. So
Speaker 3: we'll talk to him coming up. Seth Greenberg the mother
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Speaker 3: out the end of March, and March is about madness,
Speaker 3: It's about chaos. We love the upsets, we love the
Speaker 3: buzzer beat Cinderella stories, but this year it's different. No
Speaker 3: mid major darlings, no double digit seeds crashing the final four.
Speaker 3: It's four number one seeds, Houston, Duke Auburn, Florida. People
Speaker 3: are disappointed, but you have the four best teams in
Speaker 3: the country. Imagine any other sport where you go, man,
Speaker 3: I'm looking for somebody out of nowhere to play for
Speaker 3: the championship. We do that with March Madness, but you
Speaker 3: don't do that in most sports.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: You know, Arizona Diamondbacks were a nice story, like we
Speaker 3: do like those nice stories, and we have had incredible upsets.
Speaker 3: Go back to the miracle Mets in nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 3: You know, the Jets when they won the Super Bowl,
Speaker 3: super Bowl three.
Speaker 4: We like that.
Speaker 3: But Cinderella stories are fun, but greatness is what we remember.
Speaker 3: Villanova's buzzer beater, the UCLA dynasty, go back through history,
Speaker 3: all of those great teams. Duke UNLV. It's not your
Speaker 3: ideal March madness, it's we I guess expected. But I
Speaker 3: think you got the best teams fighting for the title,
Speaker 3: and that still must see TV. I've always said, give
Speaker 3: me madness, give me chaos until the Elite eight, and
Speaker 3: then I want to see the best teams in basketball.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: NC State last year was a wonderful story, great story
Speaker 3: knocked out, Duke, if you're that good, and I just
Speaker 3: want to make sure that you complete the mission. If
Speaker 3: you're a double digit seed, if you're a mid major,
Speaker 3: that you get a chance to play. Butler got to
Speaker 3: play for a couple of national titles. I like that storyline.
Speaker 3: It's even better if they win the title. But in
Speaker 3: this case, you have the four seeds. I don't think
Speaker 3: anybody was surprised. I think those four seeds stood above
Speaker 3: everybody else the entire tournament. But this is what this
Speaker 3: is about the best teams right now. And what you're
Speaker 3: finding is with the blue bloods, the powerhouses, they're taking
Speaker 3: away the players from the mid They're almost stealing the
Speaker 3: mid major thunder by taking the mid major player. Therefore,
Speaker 3: the mid major can't make a run because they've wised
Speaker 3: up finally and said, hmm, do we just want to
Speaker 3: recruit freshmen or do we want to take somebody who's
Speaker 3: already battle tested. And this is what I've said about
Speaker 3: John Kella Perry for years. John, congratulations, you got another
Speaker 3: recruiting class that's going to make billions of dollars in
Speaker 3: the NBA. You need to have some players help out
Speaker 3: those freshmen, because this time of the year. You play different,
Speaker 3: you coach different, and you see that with a lot
Speaker 3: of these teams. Now Dukes and Anomaly, they have three
Speaker 3: players who are going to be lottery picks and they're freshmen.
Speaker 3: But a lot of these other players, you have transfers,
Speaker 3: and you also have juniors and seniors who are providing
Speaker 3: that much needed leadership here. But yes, March madness, maybe
Speaker 3: not the madness, but it's still going to be great
Speaker 3: to see the four best teams play for the championship.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if you pose that as a
Speaker 3: question like are you disappointed with this year's March mad
Speaker 3: Are you disappointed that we have four seeds, the top
Speaker 3: seeds and they're going to play for the championship, I'm not.
Speaker 3: Do I want to see a little more madness earlier?
Speaker 3: Yes I do, and we didn't see that. But once again,
Speaker 3: you got Florida, you got Duke, Houston and Auburn, and you're.
Speaker 2: Seeing different rosters.
Speaker 3: But you're also seeing these teams for the most part,
Speaker 3: who do have some players who have played before and
Speaker 3: maybe they played somewhere else. And I think that's the
Speaker 3: interesting part of this is they're taking away the mid
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Speaker 3: points spreads for the final four. Just got them from DraftKings.
Speaker 3: Florida favored by two and a half against Auburn. Duke
Speaker 3: is favored by four and a half against Houston, and
Speaker 3: the Dukies are the big favorite here, followed by Florida,
Speaker 3: then Houston than Auburn.
Speaker 2: To win it all, come up with the poll.
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Speaker 3: Last week we were talking about Cooper Flag and as
Speaker 3: we always do with great players or young players, we'd
Speaker 3: like to do a comp go into a draft. Oh
Speaker 3: who do they remind you of? And my point with
Speaker 3: Cooper Flag is that if he had a career like
Speaker 3: Kevin Love's career, it might be viewed as a disappointment.
Speaker 3: Ninety percent of NBA players would sign up for Kevin
Speaker 3: Love's career. And maybe he's a Hall of famer. He's
Speaker 3: a borderline hall of famer, started out great and made
Speaker 3: something of himself. I thought he would be a fourteen
Speaker 3: and eight guy, and he proved me wrong and early.
Speaker 3: But I was not saying something in a disparaging way
Speaker 3: about Kevin Love. And we did invite Kevin Love on
Speaker 3: and he smartly said, no, need to talk about it.
Speaker 3: He knew I wasn't taking a shot at him. It's
Speaker 3: certain websites, blogs, members of the media that thought I
Speaker 3: was taking a shot at him. I'm talking about the
Speaker 3: expectation we're going to put on an eighteen year old
Speaker 3: going into the NBA. Let's lower. Now, nobody wants to
Speaker 3: do this, but let's lower the expectation, or be fair
Speaker 3: to him. The point I was making is he'll be
Speaker 3: the number one pick. He's going to be viewed as
Speaker 3: a savior. Kevin Love was not viewed that way. Kevin
Speaker 3: was a great player who fit in now. When he
Speaker 3: stood alone in Minnesota, he put up some great numbers,
Speaker 3: had thirty rebounds in the game. But we found his
Speaker 3: value when he started to play with Lebron and he
Speaker 3: won a championship. Cooper Flagg could do all of those things,
Speaker 3: and I think we'll still view him as a disappointment.
Speaker 3: It's not fair to him to have those expectations. He's
Speaker 3: not the next Larry Bird. And that's why I said,
Speaker 3: maybe he's the next Kevin Love. And there's nothing wrong
Speaker 3: with that, but the way it was presented, and look,
Speaker 3: I'm the messenger, so maybe I didn't explain it so
Speaker 3: people in the media could understand what I was saying.
Speaker 3: This had nothing to do with Kevin Love being a disappointment.
Speaker 3: Cooper Flagg would be viewed as a disappointment even if
Speaker 3: he put up great numbers like that. That was the
Speaker 3: point I was trying to make. But I did say
Speaker 3: to Fritzy, I said, reach out Kevin, see if he
Speaker 3: wants to come on, and he said no.
Speaker 2: He knew that I was not taking a shot at him.
Speaker 3: So just want to make sure that I clarified that
Speaker 3: I don't want to say it was taken out of
Speaker 3: context or anything like that. It was what I said,
Speaker 3: but people chose to look at it differently than what
Speaker 3: I was saying. It was about Cooper Flag and the
Speaker 3: expectations that Kevin Love has not had a disappointing career.
Speaker 3: He's probably close to a Hall of Fame career. Yes, boom, Yeah.
Speaker 5: We did the post of that clip from Friday's show,
Speaker 5: and on the post it says, quote, if you said
Speaker 5: his career was going to be like Kevin Love's, would
Speaker 5: that be a disappointment question mark? And probably it would be.
Speaker 5: What was not included there is the previous sixty seconds
Speaker 5: where you were talking about comparing Cooper Flag to Larry
Speaker 5: Bird and how that's overreaching at this point for an
Speaker 5: eighteen year old. So that kind of took the next
Speaker 5: quote that people didn't see the ramp up of where
Speaker 5: you mentioned Larry Bird and Flag and kind of pushed
Speaker 5: it out of context a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but once again, if people it's a far better headline,
Speaker 3: and it got a little bit of traction. I didn't
Speaker 3: realize it was a thing until Marvin sent it to me.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, they totally misread what I was saying
Speaker 3: about Cooper Flag and Kevin Love. But we did reach
Speaker 3: out to Kevin, as we always do. We'll reach out
Speaker 3: if we said something or somebody wants to respond. But
Speaker 3: if he wanted to come on and talk about it, great,
Speaker 3: But you know, wisely he chose not to because let's
Speaker 3: not inflame it any more than maybe what people were
Speaker 3: already doing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, really, the real lesson from this is
Speaker 4: that we need our social media people to start taking
Speaker 4: your words out of context so that then we get
Speaker 4: all of.
Speaker 2: That engagement about your words.
Speaker 4: Right because posts a lot of accounts on all these
Speaker 4: different social media they are all getting a ton of
Speaker 4: engagement off of taking your words out of context. We
Speaker 4: should just start doing that on your behalf and then
Speaker 4: you can defend what we posted. Thank you, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: thank you. That's where we really missed.
Speaker 3: I didn't give the starting lineup. It's our Fab five,
Speaker 3: Flab five, the King of Comedy, Fritzi, you got seat
Speaker 3: in here, you got Marvin Paul ye yours truly, and hey,
Speaker 3: I'm part of the Flab five.
Speaker 2: I mean, Seaton's the one, him and Paul. It looks
Speaker 2: you know, sinewy. It's still kind of skinny fat.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. That's the bummer. That is the bummer
Speaker 4: when you're like, yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm looking I'm looking good, I'm losing weight, and then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden you go, yeah, except for the belly,
Speaker 3: but other than that.
Speaker 4: I'm down almost thirty pounds and still look terrible. How
Speaker 4: did that work? Yeah? How did that work?
Speaker 6: How?
Speaker 4: How about a poll question today? Setan yeah, would you
Speaker 4: rather be Well, we could go with an easy one
Speaker 4: your favorite right now? To win the tournament, We'll just
Speaker 4: go with the four left. How about are you disappointed
Speaker 4: with this year's tournament? Well? Here, here's why I think
Speaker 4: a lot of people are going to say that they are.
Speaker 4: And then the reason that they say they're going to
Speaker 4: be disappointed is going to directly contradict the way that
Speaker 4: the tournament's actually played out. Okay, people's big complaint about
Speaker 4: basketball right now is you don't know any of the players.
Speaker 4: You don't know where anybody went. Everybody's moving all over
Speaker 4: the place. What the hell I thought?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 4: And then their big complaint about this year is where's
Speaker 4: all the Cinderellas, where's all the teams that came out
Speaker 4: of nowhere?
Speaker 2: All the players?
Speaker 4: I don't know where's all this stuff, so like it
Speaker 4: directly conflicts with the line of thinking.
Speaker 2: Yeah I do.
Speaker 3: I love the chaos and the madness. I do, but
Speaker 3: I also just want I want to watch good basketball,
Speaker 3: that's all. And if there's there's no upsets, no buzzer beaters.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Do I think this is going to be the tradition?
Speaker 3: Is this going to be a pattern or is it
Speaker 3: a one off for maybe back to back years where
Speaker 3: Shawk is going to be up there at the top.
Speaker 3: I'll go back to what I said initially, the you know,
Speaker 3: the big schools are just picking off these players from
Speaker 3: the mid majors, preventing the mid majors from making a
Speaker 3: run like this and being a part of the madness
Speaker 3: and the chaos.
Speaker 4: Yes, Pauline, I.
Speaker 5: Do miss which watching a team get a week of notoriety.
Speaker 5: Was it Saint Peter's in twenty twenty two and everyone
Speaker 5: talked about their coach and these different players or Porter
Speaker 5: Moser and Loyal of five years ago? They got all
Speaker 5: that in the Sister, it feels like that is missing.
Speaker 5: It's not a complaint, but just it's a storyline you're
Speaker 5: used to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm fine with that.
Speaker 3: When you have those stories early in the tournament, you go, okay,
Speaker 3: let's have this guy on. Yeah, that's a cute story here.
Speaker 3: Let's had the kid from NC State on. You know,
Speaker 3: so you're gonna play football. You know, that's all great,
Speaker 3: but you can't manufacture this to say, how do we
Speaker 3: come up with more buzzer beater choon upsets. These are
Speaker 3: the best teams in college basketball. From start to finish,
Speaker 3: it felt like these were the four best teams in
Speaker 3: college basketball. I'm okay with it, yes, Tom.
Speaker 7: The Cinderellas did balout way too early.
Speaker 2: After a couple of rounds.
Speaker 7: We held onto Colorado State very tightly, very briefly. That
Speaker 7: was like the last one standing, and even they kind
Speaker 7: of left early. And it's great to have the best
Speaker 7: teams at the end, but would have been fun a
Speaker 7: few more rounds of a couple of Cinderemes.
Speaker 2: Thank you to Florida survived Texas Tech.
Speaker 4: Men.
Speaker 3: Did I have some problems with the coaching with Texas Tech?
Speaker 3: Down the stretch. There's one guy on the floor who
Speaker 3: can beat you for Florida, Walter Clayton Junior, the third
Speaker 3: that's it. Now, you got some contributions from the other kid.
Speaker 3: How Walter Clayton Junior, the third's the only guy take
Speaker 3: the ball out of his hands. Let somebody else beat you.
Speaker 2: That's all this is. This is simple coaching.
Speaker 4: One oh one.
Speaker 3: Yes, Hey, we got beat by some guy who's not
Speaker 3: normally in this position. Okay, I'm not gonna let that
Speaker 3: guy who I know is the guy who can beat me.
Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, this is.
Speaker 8: One of those times where you know what, I'm not
Speaker 8: too proud to play box.
Speaker 3: And one absolutely face guard him. Do what Duke did
Speaker 3: against Seers at Alabama. You know, when you put a
Speaker 3: little pressure on the perimeter, it's amazing how poorly you
Speaker 3: can shoot. B Yu' is like, okay, go ahead, go ahead,
Speaker 3: we're in his own We got our hands up. Duke's like,
Speaker 3: uh no, and we're gonna force you off the dribble.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, see if you can go inside. Speaking of Duke,
Speaker 3: their head coach joins us next year on the Day
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Speaker 3: always do her on Monday. Best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 3: What you saw that you liked, you didn't like? I
Speaker 3: know what he liked. John Shier, the third season dukead
Speaker 3: basketball coach, moving into the Final four. You've been there
Speaker 3: as a player, You've been there as an assistant coach.
Speaker 3: What's it like to be there as a head coach?
Speaker 10: Dan, Well, it's great to be with you, you know
Speaker 10: it couldn't be more excited about this opportunity.
Speaker 8: I'll feel it, you know, I'll feel.
Speaker 10: It in person in San Antonio, But to be honest
Speaker 10: with you, it feels surreal, you know, like it's the
Speaker 10: Promised Land. Obviously we're hungry for more, but couldn't be
Speaker 10: more excited by this opportunity.
Speaker 3: You always want to be the guy who follows, the
Speaker 3: guy who follows the legend. I'll go back to John Wooden,
Speaker 3: and you know you didn't get that. You've got the
Speaker 3: opportunity to coach, but you're following the leg And Mike Krychevsky,
Speaker 3: I don't know if you did research or talk to
Speaker 3: people who were the ones following the legend as opposed
Speaker 3: to following the person following the legend.
Speaker 10: Well, you know what, Dan, I did more research on
Speaker 10: successions than uh, I think you can imagine, you know,
Speaker 10: especially in sport, right, but even in business. Uh and
Speaker 10: I tried to find connections about you know, really why
Speaker 10: you know, others weren't as successful and what went wrong
Speaker 10: and because in most cases it wasn't about what went right.
Speaker 10: You know, it's it's been, it's been very difficult, and
Speaker 10: I think the first and most important thing I found
Speaker 10: was to be really connected with you know, the former
Speaker 10: coach or the transition and for me, you know the
Speaker 10: fact that Coach K and I are still as close
Speaker 10: as could be and the succession, me and him were
Speaker 10: so connected about what had to change and what had
Speaker 10: to improve and what I had to do. But then
Speaker 10: obviously you're not going to win it if you try
Speaker 10: to be somebody else. And so I had to come
Speaker 10: to terms very quickly with I'm not coach K. I
Speaker 10: gonna try to be him. I'm not gonna try to
Speaker 10: coach like him. I'm gonna I'm gonna be myself and
Speaker 10: wherever that takes us, you know, I can live with
Speaker 10: the at the end of the day, because that's the
Speaker 10: only way I'm going to succeed.
Speaker 3: Is there a new philosophy in how to build a
Speaker 3: team in college basketball? You guys might be the anomaly.
Speaker 3: You got three freshmen who are going to be lottery picks.
Speaker 3: But you're seeing a lot of these teams that a
Speaker 3: couple of freshmen, but it's really about getting these you know,
Speaker 3: transfer guys or guys who are going to stay for
Speaker 3: three or four years.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it has changed a lot. I think
Speaker 10: the biggest difference is now you have to build your
Speaker 10: team based on year to year. You know, it's and
Speaker 10: look it's when I played. This is only fifteen years ago.
Speaker 10: When I played the starting lineup in my group, we
Speaker 10: had over one hundred starting game, over one hundred games together.
Speaker 10: And look the team we're playing in Houston. Houston has
Speaker 10: great experience together. But for the most part, it is
Speaker 10: year to year. I think for me, the challenge is
Speaker 10: trying to find some level of continuity, which I think
Speaker 10: still can be done in a different way. We're still
Speaker 10: bringing in really talented, ready made players that we develop
Speaker 10: over the course of the year and have big expectations
Speaker 10: like the guys you know you had mentioned as freshman now,
Speaker 10: but I think we do it our own way, and
Speaker 10: that's what I'm proud of. You know, I think it's
Speaker 10: not going to be cookie cutter. We need this amount
Speaker 10: of transfers, returners, freshmen. I think it's based on the
Speaker 10: level of readiness that the freshmen we recruit have and
Speaker 10: then also the returners we can possibly bring back. And
Speaker 10: I think as you look at our roster, Dan, the
Speaker 10: combination of the Seon James, the Malik Browns, the Mason Gillis,
Speaker 10: with the Tyrees Proctor and Caleb Foster, well that helps
Speaker 10: the freshmen having some level of experience with them.
Speaker 4: How would you do against Procter and a shooting contest?
Speaker 10: I would beat them, beat me in the game, but
Speaker 10: I'm gonna beat any of our guys still, I think, Dan.
Speaker 3: How do you coach a freshman as opposed to a
Speaker 3: junior senior.
Speaker 10: I just think for these guys there's a level of
Speaker 10: that they need to always hear the truth. You have
Speaker 10: to hit them right between the eyes. But also at
Speaker 10: the same time, you have to give them a really
Speaker 10: good confidence because they're going through something.
Speaker 8: They've never experienced before.
Speaker 10: You know, even I'm like, I'm so impressed with the
Speaker 10: maturity these guys have playing in my first n CUAA
Speaker 10: tournament game, and I remember how I felt, and these
Speaker 10: guys haven't acted like it's.
Speaker 4: How did you feel?
Speaker 8: I felt, you know, jittery? You know, I felt, you know, pressure.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 10: We are six seed playing vcus an eleven seed, and
Speaker 10: you just I think there's a tendency Dan to when
Speaker 10: you're the higher seed, to play not to lose instead
Speaker 10: of playing to win. And so I've tried to just
Speaker 10: ingrain in them from day one in the preseason of
Speaker 10: being the hunters, you know, not the hunted, and just
Speaker 10: going after this thing. And they've embraced then, they've done that,
Speaker 10: but I think with the freshman, just to continue to
Speaker 10: give him confidence at the same time of trying to
Speaker 10: prepare them for things that they hadn't seen before.
Speaker 8: And that's what I've tried to do.
Speaker 3: He's Duke's head coach John Shier joining us on the program.
Speaker 3: Take me back to the Butler National title game when
Speaker 3: you want Gordon Hayward wasn't your guy?
Speaker 4: Was he you were?
Speaker 8: He wasn't my guy? In terms of me guarding him?
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I was ahead on the play that he
Speaker 10: got the left. So I think people always think about
Speaker 10: the last half court shot, which is right.
Speaker 8: There, the one before that he had.
Speaker 10: We were under out of bounds, we were up by one,
Speaker 10: and he had an isolation play at the top of
Speaker 10: the key and he ended up shooting about like a
Speaker 10: fifteen footer from the baseline. I thought it was going in, Dan,
Speaker 10: I was right under the basket. Had just probably if
Speaker 10: it's inch shorter or it goes in, it goes long.
Speaker 10: So that shot, to me, was was the one that
Speaker 10: scared me. I was already thinking about the how we
Speaker 10: were gonna win with the timeout or what we were
Speaker 10: gonna do, but the half court shot was something I'll
Speaker 10: never forget. And I just I felt to his off
Speaker 10: of the last second, I was ahead on the play,
Speaker 10: but but thank god he missed it.
Speaker 2: If he hit that shot, he becomes Latner.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know what, And probably I don't know if
Speaker 10: I'm the head coach to Duke, I don't know if
Speaker 10: I'm I think the whole I think my.
Speaker 8: Whole life is.
Speaker 10: I think there's a lot of things that could be
Speaker 10: different from from from that shot.
Speaker 2: But do you explain to your kids?
Speaker 3: And I don't know if you feel this, but the
Speaker 3: Latner years, even JJ Reddick people hated Duke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't feel that way.
Speaker 3: This is this is a team that people may root for,
Speaker 3: maybe not root against, but they're not you know, they're
Speaker 3: they're like, hey, Cooper Flag looks great. I mean, you
Speaker 3: got it seems like a fun team. They play, you know,
Speaker 3: great offense and defense. Are you guys embraceable?
Speaker 8: I share, hope so.
Speaker 10: And look it's funny because I think we are always embraceable.
Speaker 10: But like you said, I think it's a different feeling,
Speaker 10: and I can't explain why that is.
Speaker 8: I hope it's the fact that you have.
Speaker 10: A group of really talented players that really embrace playing
Speaker 10: in the right way.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 10: It's led to some beautiful offense and they're tough, you know,
Speaker 10: like they're not afraid of anything. So I think that
Speaker 10: combination maybe has been received well. But again not JJ
Speaker 10: Reddick was the same.
Speaker 8: I don't know. I don't know what it is. I
Speaker 8: don't know what it is.
Speaker 3: Have you had the conversation with Cooper Flag about coming back? No, okay,
Speaker 3: just is there going to be a conversation?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 10: Okay, Although I can dream about that, yes you can,
Speaker 10: I know.
Speaker 8: I think that's all it is.
Speaker 10: In this case, I think it's a dream, and I
Speaker 10: think he's got to take the next dream in his
Speaker 10: life and be the topic in the NBA Draft and
Speaker 10: start his professional career.
Speaker 2: Before I let you go.
Speaker 3: Remember talking to Steve Nash and he said during his
Speaker 3: career with Phoenix, coaches told him he was too unselfish.
Speaker 3: There are times where I see Cooper Flag maybe too unselfish.
Speaker 3: The Phoenix Suns had to tell Steve Nash to shoot more.
Speaker 3: Is Cooper Flagg sort of in that it seems like
Speaker 3: he's really really engaged to get everybody involved. And maybe
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say the detriment you're hit the
Speaker 3: Final four, but are there times when you want him
Speaker 3: to be a little more selfish.
Speaker 10: I think you hit the nail on the head with him, Dan,
Speaker 10: because he's part of is what makes him so special
Speaker 10: is him bringing along as teammates and his feel for
Speaker 10: his passing.
Speaker 8: It is an incredible weapon for our team.
Speaker 10: But also he can want to defer at times to
Speaker 10: get them going and word our best. He's at our
Speaker 10: best when he's in complete attack mode. Teammates will get
Speaker 10: shots from that. But that's something I have to It's
Speaker 10: probably the biggest thing we have to get on him
Speaker 10: about and just making sure he's not deferring and continually
Speaker 10: just looking to dominate, which he can.
Speaker 3: Good luck in the final four. John, great to connect
Speaker 3: with you again. Thank you, thanks for having me appreciate you.
Speaker 3: That's John Shire. So Bob Knight played in a final four,
Speaker 3: coached in final four, he played in I think three
Speaker 3: final fours, coached in five or six final fours. Dean
Speaker 3: Smith he played in a couple of final fours, and
Speaker 3: then with North Carolina I think he was in eight
Speaker 3: or nine final fours. Billy Donovan at Providence played in
Speaker 3: a Final four, and then at Florida he won a
Speaker 3: couple of national titles as well. Hubert Davis at North Carol.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about modern era. So John Shire is part
Speaker 3: of that modern era with Hubert Davis and Billy Donovan
Speaker 3: to a degree. Then you have Bob Knight and Dean
Speaker 3: Smith part of the eight men who have played in
Speaker 3: the final four, coached in the final four.
Speaker 4: Yes, PAULI.
Speaker 5: After that interview, if anyone in the media US included
Speaker 5: wants to discuss Cooper Flag coming back for another year.
Speaker 4: It's a waste of your time.
Speaker 2: Yes, but I had to ask.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 3: It was a great question I had to ask because
Speaker 3: you know, that's one of those where you know, the
Speaker 3: story comes out later this week. You know, I got
Speaker 3: to sit down. Cooper and I are going to sit
Speaker 3: down and talk about his future. No, No, need to
Speaker 3: have that conversation.
Speaker 8: No, I have not.
Speaker 4: No, you know, Dan, that's something that we're waiting to see.
Speaker 4: We need to get through the tournament here for No,
Speaker 4: I have not.
Speaker 3: But what he did, what he said was what he
Speaker 3: said earlier is you got to be honest with these kids,
Speaker 3: and that's his approach. I'm just honest with them, whether
Speaker 3: it's a freshman or a senior. Chris and Syracuse leads
Speaker 3: us off today. Hey guys, Hey Chris, Hey, thanks man.
Speaker 1: I thought that was.
Speaker 8: Good.
Speaker 11: Dad. I got a best and worst to throw at
Speaker 11: you in a mock headline. My best to the Blue
Speaker 11: Devil's defense shutting down the Alabama three point machine. I
Speaker 11: think they held them to eight and only gave up
Speaker 11: sixty five points. And my worst. Here are some Yankee
Speaker 11: haters complaining about the Yankees new bats that have never
Speaker 11: been used, the torpedo bat and Aaron Judges and even
Speaker 11: using it and off of that, I got a fritzy
Speaker 11: mock headline for the Yankee haters. Okay, in Cortesa's return
Speaker 11: to Yankee Stadium, he gets hit hard with a corkish
Speaker 11: fee as Yankees go for a Ferris Bueller nine nine
Speaker 11: nine home runs.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Chris, Chris and Syracuse legend legend. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: was going to talk about the Yankee bats, and you
Speaker 3: know that baseball's improved.
Speaker 2: It if this was.
Speaker 3: The Marlins doing this and be like that's a cute story. Oh,
Speaker 3: good for them, But there is that moment of have
Speaker 3: they been hiding these bats?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 6: That's right.
Speaker 3: They had to get approval by Major League Baseball. It's
Speaker 3: not like a court to bat where you're trying to
Speaker 3: hide the bat. They went up there and there's only
Speaker 3: a couple of players on the Yankees who are using them.
Speaker 3: But it certainly did help them over the weekend. Hey,
Speaker 3: here's my first pitch home run. Here's my next pitch
Speaker 3: home run. Here's my third pitch of the game home run.
Speaker 3: And then you got Aaron judgsaying I don't need those bats.
Speaker 3: Everybody can use these bats if they want to. It's
Speaker 3: not like the Brotherly Shove or something where we feel like, hey,
Speaker 3: they're getting away with something. By the way, I think
Speaker 3: the push tush tush push is in trouble. I think
Speaker 3: that's in trouble. I think it's on the chopping block.
Speaker 3: With the competition committee and the owners getting together, they'll
Speaker 3: vote on it tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Mark my words.
Speaker 3: You can take away the brotherly shove, you still are
Speaker 3: not going to be able to stop the Eagles when
Speaker 3: it comes to the quarterback sneak. Okay, the offensive line
Speaker 3: can still do what they've always done, and you have
Speaker 3: a quarterback who has more leg strength than probably any
Speaker 3: other player in the NFL except for his running back,
Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley. That power and that great offensive line, they'll
Speaker 3: still be successful. But I think that we're going to
Speaker 3: go into next season without that.
Speaker 4: I think the.
Speaker 3: Push tush tush push is gone, but they'll be voting
Speaker 3: on it tomorrow morning. Yeah, seton.
Speaker 4: That actually brings us to another poll question suggestion. Oh um,
Speaker 4: If I said the topics are the tush push and nosewiping,
Speaker 4: what are we talking about a kindergarten class or the NFL.
Speaker 3: That's where the teacher says, hey, hey, boys, knock it off.
Speaker 3: Stop with that and don't wipe your nose.
Speaker 4: I'm like brushing my teeth, going over things like, all right,
Speaker 4: what do we want to make sure that we talk
Speaker 4: about today? I'm like football, I think I have a football. Well,
Speaker 4: you got the nosewipe, stay the tou push, Like, what
Speaker 4: the hell is this? What the hell am I talking about?
Speaker 4: Is this football? Or is this like pre k Like okay, kids.
Speaker 2: Hey, Jimmy, stop pushing Tommy.
Speaker 4: No more with the toush push okay. And if we're
Speaker 4: wiping our nose, we do it in a tissue, not
Speaker 4: with our fingers.
Speaker 3: Come on, come on, skippy, you're better than that. But
Speaker 3: this has to do with a CD LAMB celebration that
Speaker 3: I guess is some kind of acknowledgment to the bloods
Speaker 3: some type.
Speaker 4: Of bloods slash trip situation, her situation. Yeah, and I'm going.
Speaker 3: Okay, sure, but it does sound like something that a
Speaker 3: you know, a first grade teacher would be saying, you know,
Speaker 3: tour kids, you know.
Speaker 2: Tommy, stop wiping your nose.
Speaker 3: Hey, you two guys stop with pushing each other push tushes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't wipe our nose.
Speaker 3: Gus in la hi Gus best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 6: We're more than mister Patrick Hope you're the boys at
Speaker 6: a great weekend. Ben to the weekend. Even though we're
Speaker 6: shorthand my Lady Trojans surviving to go on to the
Speaker 6: Elite eight. I know it's going to be a tall
Speaker 6: test to get rid of Page Beckers and Yukona and
Speaker 6: I I was looking forward to that rematch between her
Speaker 6: and Juju. But I guess we'll never get it.
Speaker 3: But this is why they scheduled this. This was going
Speaker 3: to be the matchup that we were pretty much guaranteed
Speaker 3: of Connecticut USC Juju Watkins versus Page Beckers. That's why
Speaker 3: people go, well, why would you do it that way?
Speaker 3: They wanted to ensure that these two teams met. It's
Speaker 3: just like LSU against Caitlin Clark. They wanted to make
Speaker 3: sure they met. And if Juju doesn't get hurt, imagine
Speaker 3: the build up to this game, Page coming off forty
Speaker 3: points and you're going against the next.
Speaker 2: Great player in college basketball.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Interrupted you, Gus, but it's TCU, Texas, Yukon, USC, South
Speaker 3: Carolina UCLA already in what else?
Speaker 4: Do you have.
Speaker 6: No worries about that? Sir? And then you guys kind
Speaker 6: of already took it, you know, took the wind out
Speaker 6: of my sales with the whole thing. Because we're seeing
Speaker 6: two interesting parallels happening right now with the toast push
Speaker 6: that may or may not be banned, and then the
Speaker 6: Yankee bats. Will we see the same type of like,
Speaker 6: you know, we already see the Brewers kind of like
Speaker 6: raise their arms up in like objection, like whoaha, whoa
Speaker 6: these bets, these bets, what the hell is going on?
Speaker 6: Will we see the same type of you know, reaction
Speaker 6: with it. Will Will the Minnesota Twins or the Red
Speaker 6: Sox come out and be like, we got to protest this.
Speaker 8: This has got to be illegal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but everybody can do the toushbush, and everybody apparently
Speaker 3: can get these torpedo bats. Great to hear from you, guys.
Speaker 3: So the bat rules aren't really complicated. The bat shall
Speaker 3: be a smooth, round stick, not more than two point
Speaker 3: six y one inches in diameter at the thickest part,
Speaker 3: and not more than forty two inches in length. The
Speaker 3: bat shall be one piece of solid wood. Goes on
Speaker 3: to say that there may be a cupped indentation up
Speaker 3: to one and a quarter inches in depth. Two inches
Speaker 3: wide and at least one inch diameter. So that's it.
Speaker 3: And it's a former Yankee who posted online that it
Speaker 3: was a former Yankee front office staffer who now works
Speaker 3: for the Marlins who developed this torpedo barrel bat. So
Speaker 3: it adds more mass to the bat. Sweet spot. Okay,
Speaker 3: everybody can use this. It might be one of those
Speaker 3: of Hey, everybody can do the tush push, but not
Speaker 3: everybody has that quarterback in that offensive line. Everybody can
Speaker 3: use the torpedo bats, but you might not have the
Speaker 3: players who were able to do what the Yankees did.
Speaker 2: Yes, Ton, so you can reshape the bat.
Speaker 7: Obviously a pitcher can't reshape the ball, but at the
Speaker 7: very least they should be able to go back to
Speaker 7: putting stuff on it, put fast leni at, whatever you
Speaker 7: want to do. If they're able to reshape a bat,
Speaker 7: the picture needs to be able to have an extra
Speaker 7: advantage too.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no no. You don't compound this by
Speaker 3: adding to it. They're altering. You can't alter the look
Speaker 3: of a baseball. You can't change the shape in the hand.
Speaker 4: Illegal todd to do that.
Speaker 7: I think you're about to put stuff on the ball.
Speaker 12: They're playing with the bat.
Speaker 7: The picture should play with the.
Speaker 4: Ball, and they kind of already can do certain things
Speaker 4: to the ball. They do scuff it up a little
Speaker 4: bit there. Yeah, And I mean there's like, I know,
Speaker 4: there's rules about when you go to your hat and
Speaker 4: you go to this and whatever and rosinba all that,
Speaker 4: but there is some stuff that you can do to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are getting spin rate.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to get as upset as Fritzy, but
Speaker 5: when I saw the bat, it looked illegal. It looks wrong.
Speaker 5: The look of it doesn't match baseball.
Speaker 2: But you're not hiding a corked bat.
Speaker 4: No, No, it's clearly approved by the league.
Speaker 2: Hey do you think baseball went.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, commissioner, look at this Yankees. Imagine if the
Speaker 3: Astros did this. It's the only way to make it
Speaker 3: more of a story. There's like two franchises that if
Speaker 3: they did this, it would be a story and it's
Speaker 3: the Yankees and the Estros. Or if the Dodgers did it,
Speaker 3: they'd go, oh, they're spending more money on you know,
Speaker 3: mit scientists who were see.
Speaker 4: That's how smart they are. That's how smart they to everybody. Look,
Speaker 4: they're looking to the future. Okay, they got a lot
Speaker 4: of money invested in the future. Look at what they're's great.
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Speaker 3: Yankee controversy with the torpedo bats. Michael Kay, the longtime
Speaker 3: Yankee announcer, talked about it.
Speaker 12: Now you see the shape Chisholm's bat.
Speaker 8: It's got a big barrel on it.
Speaker 12: Well, it's actually a little bit lower than the barrel.
Speaker 12: The Yankee front office, the analytics department, did a study
Speaker 12: on Anthony Valpy and every single ball it seemed like
Speaker 12: he hit on the label. He did hit any on
Speaker 12: the barrel. So they had bats made up where they
Speaker 12: moved a lot of the wood into the label. So
Speaker 12: the harder part of the bat is going to actually
Speaker 12: strike the ball.
Speaker 2: That'd be a weird way to hit.
Speaker 3: It's going up there expecting to get jammed and putting
Speaker 3: the meat of the bat towards the label.
Speaker 4: They allow you to wait a little bit longer.
Speaker 3: Yeah you're wait all right, okay, But anybody could do this.
Speaker 3: And the person who did come up with this is
Speaker 3: with the Miami Marlins. Now, I don't know if baseball,
Speaker 3: I don't know if they have to have a press conference.
Speaker 3: I don't know if the commissioner comes on a show
Speaker 3: and says, hey, you know, we knew about this, we
Speaker 3: had to approve this, We're fine with this. I don't
Speaker 3: know if this is one of hey, they're getting an
Speaker 3: unfair advantage. Okay, but if everybody can do it, goes
Speaker 3: back to the tush push. Everybody can do it. Nobody
Speaker 3: could do it as well as the Eagles. Now, as
Speaker 3: I've said before, this is really simple. Just don't let
Speaker 3: somebody stand behind the quarterback and block the quarterback into
Speaker 3: the line, into.
Speaker 4: The defense, into the inzi.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 3: They're trying to use data that talks about safety. You know,
Speaker 3: the NFL is in the entertainment business. The play itself
Speaker 3: is not entertaining and it's predictable, and they don't like this.
Speaker 3: It's like the extra point. Nobody's watching. Touchdown, you go
Speaker 3: get a beer, then all of a sudden you move
Speaker 3: it back, and all of a sudden, it's like, hey,
Speaker 3: like this is now musty TV.
Speaker 2: The kickoff.
Speaker 3: They're trying to figure out how we can do this
Speaker 3: where we don't have data that talks about all the injuries.
Speaker 3: Because they don't have that, they don't have the injury
Speaker 3: data for the tush push. They're trying to do that,
Speaker 3: but they don't have it because if they would cite that,
Speaker 3: then this goes away.
Speaker 2: But they don't have that. It's like the onside kick.
Speaker 3: They're trying to bring it back, but you can only
Speaker 3: use it if you're trailing, and normally when you're using it,
Speaker 3: you're trailing.
Speaker 2: Just here's a heads up.
Speaker 3: Only in a Super Bowl maybe, but you know, if
Speaker 3: you want to have a full announcement, Okay, we're going
Speaker 3: to have an on side kick. But it's one of
Speaker 3: the great plays in the NFL. It doesn't work very often,
Speaker 3: but when it does, it's spectacular. And how many players
Speaker 3: are involved in the onside kick, like the actual collision,
Speaker 3: six maybe eight? Okay, it's one side of the field.
Speaker 3: You can only have a certain number of players on
Speaker 3: each side of the kicker. And now I think they're
Speaker 3: trying to bring that back. They're trying to bring the
Speaker 3: kickoff back as well, because they're in the entertainment business.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Pauline, going back to the tours, I'm on MLB
Speaker 5: dot com and they said they were designed to put
Speaker 5: more wood, more masks concentrated in the area of the
Speaker 5: bat where a hitter is most likely to hit the ball.
Speaker 5: So basically they reshaped it to put more wood in
Speaker 5: the barrel area and have more chances for hard hits.
Speaker 5: Maybe this isn't unfair to other teams. It's unfair to
Speaker 5: history because if a generation ago you didn't have access
Speaker 5: to these bats. Bats were traditional for really one hundred years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's a lot of things that weren't available
Speaker 3: one hundred years ago, fifty years ago.
Speaker 5: But if you make a bat that drastically increases either
Speaker 5: power or connection, that seems unfair.
Speaker 3: But it can only be a certain width, it can
Speaker 3: only be a certain size.
Speaker 2: You can't go up there with a two by four.
Speaker 5: It basically increases your sweet spot, almost like a driver,
Speaker 5: you know, when you want to hit a driver and
Speaker 5: they have the you know, the terminology the sweet spot.
Speaker 4: It's like that.
Speaker 3: The bat cannot be more than two point six one
Speaker 3: inches in diameter. So no matter what you're doing, you
Speaker 3: can take away some of the mass at the top
Speaker 3: of the bat and the bottom of the bat and
Speaker 3: put it in the middle, it still has to measure
Speaker 3: two point sixty one inches at most in diameter, So
Speaker 3: it's not like I'm putting a piece of luggage there.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it just looks weird because now if
Speaker 3: the bat stayed that way the entire length of it,
Speaker 3: so the sweet spot, but it extended to the end
Speaker 3: of the bat, then nobody would have a problem with
Speaker 3: it because it would look like a normal bat.
Speaker 4: Yes, and I think over the course of baseball, bats
Speaker 4: have changed many times, right, like even didn't say Barry Bonds.
Speaker 4: They started using a different type of wood. Yes, that
Speaker 4: was used previously before. That's why you saw so many
Speaker 4: broken bats. But they could swing it faster and get
Speaker 4: you know, a certain amount of connection. That's reinventing the
Speaker 4: bat isn't necessarily something that just happened. It's happened many times.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it's now they seem to settle
Speaker 3: on every once in a while to be like, you know,
Speaker 3: the new wood that they're using, and then it'll be
Speaker 3: I think birch is the new one, yes time.
Speaker 7: I think the problem is also because it's such a
Speaker 7: visual thing. If you change the type of wood, you're
Speaker 7: not really necessarily looking at what's inside or what it's
Speaker 7: made of. But once you see a weird shape that
Speaker 7: you're not used to after so many years, Like why
Speaker 7: now all of a sudden, we reshaping the bat.
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