1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale LOLLI he is Matt 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt. We are officially two weeks from reporting day. 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: That's mind boggling to me. I've heard some NFL people, 7 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: I guess. I was listening to Bucky and DJ's you know, 8 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: the longtime scouts, and they said, and I haven't really 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: thought of it in this light before. Once fourth of 10 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: July hits, our summers are kind of over, you. 11 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: Know, pratty much. Yeah, yeah, you're bringing the closer in. 12 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 2: Ye're going to the lighting in the bullpen. 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, right right, there's two holds left, yeah, Ricky yep, yep. 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: And it's that's a good way look at it. I mean, 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: fourth of July and make it count because there's not 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: a lot of festivities after that. 17 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: That's why I always get a vacation in before in 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: that time period between there and then it's time to 19 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: go to training camp. And well, as we've done here. 20 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: This week, I have a family vacation lined up where 21 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: I go back and forth you know, we're come to 22 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: do a drive and then turn around and go back 23 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: and you know, so that's how I'm an end my summer. 24 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were earlier this week. We went over a 25 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: bunch of the positions from ESPN the top tens, and uh, 26 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: well we've got cornerbacks and safeties to get through today, 27 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: as and some other things that we want to do here, 28 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: So I don't we look at safeties first. 29 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: Okay. 30 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: The guys who also received votes were Tyram Mathow, Eddie Jackson, 31 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: Jeremy Chin, Jiron Curse, and Justin Reid. Yeah, you know, 32 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: there's there's some names on there. I mean I think 33 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: you know, last year at this time and maybe you know, 34 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: even two years ago, they were Steeler fans clamoring for 35 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: Tyram Mathou the Steelers go sign Tyram Mathow. 36 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, not once was Yeah, he just turned thirty one. 37 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: I just wanted to click on it. He's a little undersized. 38 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: He's a good player, but he's not cheap. He's not 39 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: playing for two million a year nowadays, you know, No, No, 40 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: bring some leadership. I think he's got a good relationship 41 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: with Patrick Peterson, but that was you know, before Peterson 42 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: was the Steeler real quick on this position, and we 43 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: talk about this a lot in draft time. This is 44 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: a tough position just because they're not super flashy. A 45 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: guy like Mika, who obviously is gonna come up, has 46 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: such a ripple effect on the ten guys in front 47 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: of them. They're asked to do so much. Half these 48 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: guys cover the slot. You know, it used to be 49 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: strong free and it's so far from that anymore. 50 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, they want us to do all kinds of different things, 51 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: you know, and the difference between the strongs and the 52 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: freeze is pretty dramatic as well. So yeah, yeah, looking 53 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: at the guys, Yeah, looking at the honorable mentions here, 54 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: there's some big name guys on here. Marcus Williams, Quandre Diggs, 55 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 2: Kyle Duggar, Jordan Poyer, Micah Hyde, Xavier McKinney, and Jalen Petray. 56 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,279 Speaker 2: P Tray is the new guy on that list. 57 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 1: But he's got a lot of Honey Badger qualities. 58 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. Good, good young player. I would guess he's probably 59 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: going to crack the top ten next year. Yeah. 60 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: I think he's actually one of the few Texans foundational 61 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: pieces that they should be happy about for long term, 62 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: you know, hopefully they got some more of this past 63 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: draft for their their liking. But I mean there's guys 64 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: like Kandre Diggs on there that I saw another safety 65 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: list a touchdown wire. Did they had him third? You know, 66 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: like he's a really good player, Kyle Duggar, really good player. 67 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: This position might last some stars, but there's twenty good 68 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: safeties in the league right now. 69 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: Well. Well, Diggs is also being paid at gajillion dollars 70 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: by the Seahawks. There's that too, at number ten on 71 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: this list. This is from a poll of NFL executive, 72 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: scouts and coaches. Is Antoine Winfield junior. It's highest ranking, 73 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: number four, his lowest ranking unranked. He's twenty four years old. 74 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: Last year he was number nine. 75 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, he plays a lot of slot, has a lot 76 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: of similarities to his dad. I mean, his dad was 77 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: a Cover two corner that was a little undersize, tough 78 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: as nails, and sons similar you know. He plays in the 79 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: middle of the field more than his dad did. But 80 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: if his dad came was around this time of year, 81 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: he'd probably play close to the line of scrimmage as 82 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: a nickel slash off the ball safety. Really good players 83 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: starting to come into his own. 84 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 2: Number nine on this list. His highest ranking was six, 85 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: his lowest ranking was unranked. Last year he was unranked. 86 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: He's twenty three years old, and that's telling Noah h Helfanga. 87 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, Steeler fans will be offended by this. 88 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: And obviously it's a bit rich, but the Paul Lamalu 89 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: comparisons are flying around because he's. 90 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: Got the hair extremely rich. And one thing I've noticed 91 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 2: on here thus far, Matt, is that the forty niner 92 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: guys are getting a ton of love on here. Yeah, 93 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 2: you're forty nine er, you're getting votes on here regardless. 94 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: That's funny. I hadn't thought of that. But like Armstead 95 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: green Law the Fonga, you know, like, yeah, it's a 96 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: good defense and I can you know, they're they're deep 97 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: into the playoffs and on TV a lot and all that, 98 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: but maybe they are getting a little too much love. 99 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: He's a good young player, he really is. 100 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: He's a good young player. I don't know that he's 101 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,119 Speaker 2: better than Marcus Williams right right, right, a young player. 102 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: I don't know that he's better than Jordan Poyer or 103 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: Micah Hyde, you know, I mean some of the guys 104 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,679 Speaker 2: that are Yeah, highly sta you know, easy to report, 105 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: you know. At number eight, this one's interesting. Highest ranking 106 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: for lowest ranking out of the top ten. Last year 107 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: he was unranked. He's twenty nine years old. CJ. Gardner Johnson. 108 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: Is he only a safety or is he a nickel corner. 109 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: He's more of a nickel corner than right, you know, 110 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: but he's as gray as there could be in this conversation. 111 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: Either you're gonna say he's interesting because he's been on 112 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: three teams in less than three or sixty five. 113 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: Oh, there's that too. And he's he's reportedly kind of 114 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: a jerk. You know, we've seen him getting fights with 115 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: guys on the field. Apparently a lot of the teammates 116 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 2: don't like him. 117 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, he've got some fights in practice with the Saints too, 118 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: maybe with Michael Thomas. I mean, he's an agitator. He's 119 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: that hockey guy that's always slashing in from the net 120 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: and taking cheap shots and all that. Which if he's 121 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: on your team, great, But I don't know if he's 122 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: well he maybe not. Maybe he's even hard to be around. 123 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Number seven. Highest ranking is three. Lowest ranking is unranked. 124 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 2: Last year's ranking, he was number three he's twenty nine 125 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: years old. That's Kevin Byerd. 126 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: A lot of talk he could be on the move. 127 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: You know, he's publicly said he's would welcome a trade 128 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: the Lean Times in Tennessee. If you're a twenty nine 129 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: year old who's looking you know, we talked about the 130 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: back nine of the summer, he's probably on whole fourteen fifteen, 131 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: something like that. Do you want to finish your career 132 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: in this situation as sort of an under underpaid, underappreciated 133 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: guy or would you like to go, you know, play 134 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: for the chief or something. 135 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: You know, well, he's not underpaid. He may he's making 136 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: him Oh he's making money. You're right, Yeah, he's making 137 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 2: good money. That's one of the reasons why they may 138 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: not want to keep him and could make him tough trade. Yeah. Yeah. 139 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: Number six. His highest ranking was number one, lowest ranking, unranked. 140 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: You talk about one. 141 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: Between you. You're number one on somebody's listen, you're unranked 142 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: on somebody else's twenty six years old. Last year he 143 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: was number six. Jesse Bates now of the Falcons. 144 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: Good player. I mean he's a single hide take the 145 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: ball away, good story, YadA, YadA, highly highly paid. You know, 146 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: hopefully a leader for them in Atlanta, since he obviously 147 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: knew they weren't going to keep him but franchised them 148 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: a year ago. Important. I can't picture a world where 149 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: he's number one though. 150 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: No, he's not a big tackler, no, no, no, he's not 151 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: a Yeah, he's not a not a real physical player, 152 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: and you want your safety to at least be able 153 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: to get guys on the ground. Consider that's not him. 154 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: Number five his highest ranking. Number three his lowest ranking, 155 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: un ranked last year he was honorable mention. He's twenty 156 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: three years old. That's Juvon Holland with the Dolphins. 157 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: So this isn't the exercise. But if we were drafting 158 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: safeties to have for the future, you know you mentioned 159 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: pet tre You know Holland would be really high on 160 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: my list as a twenty three year old, does it all? 161 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: I thought he was a really good player at Oregon 162 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: and went in the early second round, thought he might 163 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: sneak in the first and has been even better than 164 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: I expected. I like this player a lot. 165 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, good young player. They could have just kept making 166 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 2: Fitzpatrick though, and not drafted him. But that's yeah number one, Yeah, 167 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: number four is highest ranking number one. I can't imagine 168 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: who ranked him number one, lowest ranking, number ten, twenty 169 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: seven years old. Last year he was number five on 170 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:56,239 Speaker 2: this list. That's Buddha Baker. Now I like Buddha Baker. Yeah, 171 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: but number one. 172 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: Come on, come on, right, I mean, I'm fine with four. 173 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: He's one of the only assets Arizona has right now. 174 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: So quick question for you, if you were in charge 175 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: of the Cardinals, who we know their quarterback has leadership concerns. 176 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: We'll just say that I don't think it's an accident 177 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: that over the last couple of years they've had Rodney Hudson, 178 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: JJ Watt, Larry you know, like all these like stalwart, 179 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: high character leaders. Would you consider trading Buddha and what 180 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: might be the worst team in the league or is 181 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: that who you're building around? You know what I mean? 182 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: Now he's still twenty seven. Yeah, I'm still keeping a 183 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 2: hold of him, and he's making a big bucket. I 184 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: don't think he's going anywhere either. It'sd be tough to 185 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: trade him, you know, you can't. They're gonna stink whether 186 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: he's there or not. Sam doesn't keep him, Yeah. 187 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean third round pick for him and 188 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of cats. 189 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 2: You know, number three on the list, the highest ranking, 190 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 2: number one, the lowest ranking, number five. He's twenty nine 191 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 2: years old. Last year he was the number one rated 192 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: guy in here, justin Simmons. 193 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: So we'll get to the top two, and I bet 194 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: most people can figure it out. One happens to be 195 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: a Steeler, And I think those top two are the 196 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: only two that I can I would consider voting at 197 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: number one. But Simmons, I understand. You know, the fact 198 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: that he got a number one vote, I can say, okay, 199 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: and I could see a year ago he was there, 200 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: great size, does it all unlike you know some of 201 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: the other the two names we're gonna mention. He wasn't 202 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: a first round pick, so some people might have been 203 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: a little late to the party of his contributions. But 204 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: he's phenomenal. 205 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a good football player. I have no issue 206 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: with somebody voting him one for him being one last year, 207 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: like I do with a couple of the other guys 208 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: who got first place votes. 209 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: And come on, he's the only one besides the top 210 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: two that I could understand a first place vote for. 211 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, number two. He's twenty six years old. Last year 212 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 2: he was number four on this list. His highest ranking 213 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 2: is number one, his lowest ranking number eight. That's Derwin James. 214 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 2: Who's voting Derwin James eight. 215 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: That's that's the takeaway here, twenty six total stud pull 216 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: back the curtain. We haven't mentioned Mica yet. He's number one, 217 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: and we can get to him, of course. And it's 218 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: this is a bit of an extreme. I've bringing up 219 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: Troy twice, but I kind of look at Derwin and 220 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: Menka a little bit like Ed Reid and Troy in 221 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: that they're both very different. They're both elite players for 222 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: their generation. I don't know if either one of the 223 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: new guys gets in the Hall of Fame like those 224 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: two are all time greats. But Darwin has extreme versatility. 225 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: Health is the only thing you can say, is a question. 226 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and last year he stayed healthy, so deserves to 227 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 2: be number two. 228 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: Read this. I didn't know it because it's not always 229 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: public knowledge, but he was a green dot guy for 230 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: the Chargers. 231 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 2: You know. That's first. Yeah, number one, highest ranking, number one, 232 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: lowest ranking, number five? Again, who's voting? Meka Fitzpatrick number 233 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: five on this list? Last year he was number two. 234 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: He's twenty six years old. The comment on here from 235 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: an NFL personnel director said, best in the game, and 236 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: it's not close. You have to keep them moving because 237 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: if he's stationary's coordinators can plan for him. But every 238 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 2: single player there's a feeling where's he going to be 239 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 2: post slot nickel box. He's capable, really and able to 240 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: handle all of that. He's brilliant, works studies and loves 241 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: the game. 242 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: Hard argue with that. Yeah, I disagree with any of 243 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: it right right, And I'm sure many of our listeners 244 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: aren't going to question that he shouldn't be number one, 245 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: or you don't listen to the drive to say Mink 246 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: is great. You listen because we're great. Anyway, there was 247 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: something on here that blew me away though, not that 248 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: he was number one, but on thirty seven or thirty 249 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: nine targets where he was the nearest defender, which is 250 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: a very low number, but he's off the ball so far. 251 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: It also shows people don't throw his directtion right, so 252 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: the ball came out of a quarterback's hands when he 253 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: was the closest defender to the target only thirty nine times. 254 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 2: Last year in seventeen games. 255 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: In seventeen games, then he missed one or two, he. 256 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: Missed one I think maybe yeah, sixty sixteen games. 257 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: Either way, thirty nine times somebody went his direction on purpose. 258 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: He picked the ball off six times and had eleven 259 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: pass breakups, so basically half the time they threw at him, 260 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: he got his hands on the ball. You know what 261 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: I mean. That's crazy. 262 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: And you and I have seen him work, you know, 263 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: ever since he's been here, basically, and the guy again 264 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: when the when the NFL personnel director says he's brilliant, 265 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: he works, studies and loves the game. He's a lion. 266 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 2: I mean, this guy practice you are. 267 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: He is. 268 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 2: The guy, the guy puts the time in and he 269 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: deserves to be number one on this list, hands down. 270 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: You know, learn a ton from Nick Saban. Sabin trusted 271 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: him to no end. That carried over to the league. 272 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: One of the last guys on the practice field all 273 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: the time. Leader tough. I mean, negatives are hard to come. 274 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: Up with, they really are. The cornerback list also came out. 275 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: We'll run through that one here real quick before we 276 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 2: take a break. Here this there's so much variance here. 277 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: There are like twenty five guys named on this cornerback 278 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: also receiving votes. 279 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: Practice Peterson's named did at least come up on you know, 280 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: receiving votes. 281 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Stefan Gilmour, James Bradbury, J C. Jackson, Carlton Davis, 282 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: Trent mcduffieach Our, Various Ward, there's that forty nine er 283 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: thing again, DJ Tyson Campbell. The guys who got honorable mentions, 284 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: Xavian Howard, J C. Horn, Tarik Woolan, Tredavius White, Lagarious Sneid. 285 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: That's just the guys who also who got votes but 286 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: didn't make the top ten. Ye, and you can see that. 287 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: I mean some of those guys are coming off bad seasons. 288 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: Serdavius White hasn't played football basically in two. 289 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: Years, right right, Yeah, that's kind of an honorable mention 290 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: achievement award. I mean there's guys, you know, we mis 291 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: mentioned Stefan Gilmore one Player of the Year, you know, 292 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: I mean, like Peterson's not even there. He's going to 293 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: moonwalk into the Hall of Fame. Zavin Howard as a 294 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: million interceptions. 295 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: Like there's some dudes there at number ten. Last year 296 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: he was number two or his highest rankings. Number two 297 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: is lowest ranking unranked. Last year he was number nine. 298 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: That's aj Terrell of the Falcons. He did not have 299 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: a good year last year, That's what I was gonna say. 300 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a good example of variance at this 301 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: position year to year too. 302 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: Now that being said, he was tasked every week with 303 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: covering the other team's best receiver right right, But he 304 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: gave up eight touchdowns and didn't have an interception last year. 305 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely his worst season as a pro. They maybe 306 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: had the worst path rush in the league as well, 307 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: didn't help. But pivotal time for him. You know, he 308 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: will he be on this list next year. 309 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: He was to say. 310 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: It's a little bit of a you know, going back 311 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: to two years ago. 312 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: Number nine on this list, he was the highest ranking 313 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: of five, lowest ranking out of the top ten. Last 314 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: year he was number six, So he's moving the wrong way. 315 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: It's twenty five years old, and that's Denzel Ward. 316 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: He's good. I'm not sure he'd be in my top ten. 317 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: They'd probably be twelve, you know, on that honorable mention list. 318 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just you know, I mean, he's a he's 319 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: a good player, he's just not I don't think he's 320 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: a great player. 321 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that. He leaps off the page 322 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: when you watch him. 323 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, number eight on this list is a guy that, well, 324 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: this is your guy. I know. I don't like him 325 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 2: as much as some other people seem to. But his 326 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: highest ranking, number three is lowest ranking, unranked twenty four 327 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: years old. Last year he was number ten. That's Trayvon Diggs. 328 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: He's he's the young version of Patrick Peters or Patrick 329 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: Hargus Peters. I'm sorry, Marcus Peters all or nothing. 330 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: Especially two years ago, and that's when he was getting 331 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: burnt left and right and setting interception records more or 332 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: less on a weekly basis. One note on him is 333 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: he was targeted a lot less last year, not because 334 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: of his reputations, because their second corner was so bad. 335 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,479 Speaker 1: And that's not even knock on him. That's why they 336 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: went and got Gilmore. You know, like their second receiver 337 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: and their second corner were really soft last year, so 338 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: they traded for Cookes and Gilmore, you know. 339 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: Well, and their pass rush is better as well. 340 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: That sure helps. I mean his pass rush compared to 341 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: like aj Terrell's Night and Day. 342 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, number seven, highest ranking, number one, lowest ranking, number ten. 343 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 2: Last year he was number two, twenty seven years old. 344 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 2: Marshawn Lattimore. 345 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: Some people look at him and think this guy's on 346 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame pace, and then he seems like 347 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: it seems like there's a lot of variance with him. 348 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: Not that he's a boombust Peters Diggs guy, but there 349 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: seems to be a lot of varying opinions. 350 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: I just remember, you know, and I don't watch the 351 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: Saints all the time, but the Steelers played the Saints 352 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 2: back in what twenty eighteen whatever it was, and Antonio 353 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 2: Brown eight Marshawn Latimore's lunch, and he had double He 354 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 2: had help on ninety percent of those plays, Like they 355 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: was doubling Antonio Brown with Marshawn Lattimore and somebody else. 356 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 2: Antonio Brown was the best player in the NFL that day. 357 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: Yes, I remember that vividly, and probably was Latimore's worst 358 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: day as a pro. I hope. 359 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 2: It would be really bad. Yeah, yeah, Number six. I mean, 360 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: this guy didn't have a very good year last year. 361 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: Highest ranking number one, somebody voted them number one. Low 362 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 2: was ranking unranked, which again shows you the varians. Last 363 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: year he was number seven. Marlon Humphrey. I like Marlon 364 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 2: Humphrey as a player, I think he does a lot 365 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: of good things. He would not be a number six 366 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: on my list coming off of last year, actually maybe 367 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 2: off the last two years. 368 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, he has nice versatility. He's one of these the 369 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: guys that will go inside out whatever. Hamilton played the 370 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: slot as a big safety last year, so Humphrey was 371 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: outside more, which is a little bit tougher duty. I 372 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: just reading this two years ago, he was number two, Like, 373 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's even declining. I'm not sure he 374 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: was ever the second best corner. 375 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: It's just the variance of the position. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 376 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, he's a he's a very good football player. 377 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 2: And no, there's not a cornerback in the league that 378 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: forces fumbles like him. 379 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: Good point, good point, you know, like Ward and Humphrey, 380 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: I don't think we're picking on division mates. Like I 381 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: hope Porter turns into as good as players both those guys, 382 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, right, But I think neither 383 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: one's elite or. 384 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 2: I just see that that variance in highest ranking one 385 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 2: lowest ranking unranked, Like, yeah, it just kind of shows 386 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: you what the position is. So you know, when people 387 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 2: get mad at this corner or that cornerback. That's just 388 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 2: that's the position. 389 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: That's the position. 390 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: Number five on this list again and again, highest ranking three, 391 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 2: lowest ranking on he's thirty two years old. Last year 392 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 2: he got honorable mention. That's Darius Slay. 393 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: So we had this conversation with like Reddick and and 394 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: it's a team game and he helps contribute to this. 395 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: But when you get seventy sacks from your friend, yeah, 396 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: I mean that just helps. I mean again, his coverage 397 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: helped those sacks. 398 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,239 Speaker 2: Not saying that they could have the Eagles could have 399 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 2: you and I covering people right right right, but you know. 400 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, it just makes his life a little easier when 401 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: you're playing with a huge lead and you know, you 402 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: know the balls coming your way and you're not playing 403 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: the run and coming out quick the player though, like 404 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: I might have him five as well. I'm not picking 405 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: on Sleigh at all. 406 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: No. 407 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: Number four, he's thirty two already. 408 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, well he's been a long time with the Lions. Yeah, 409 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 2: I know, number four in this list. His highest ranking 410 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 2: was one, his lowest ranking nine. Again, there's that variance. 411 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 2: Twenty six years old. Last year he was number three, 412 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 2: and that's Jayi Alexander. 413 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: He would definitely be my top five, no question. 414 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 415 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: I think he's really really good. And hate to say 416 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: this at this position because it's rarely true, but here 417 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: to say. 418 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 2: Number three, highest ranking two, lowest ranking ten. It's twenty 419 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: eight years old. Last year he was number one, and 420 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 2: that's Jalen Ramsey. 421 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: Interesting. I mean, like I think he might be putting 422 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame career together. He's rare talent. I mean, 423 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: you'd love to have him, but he's not used like 424 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: people think he's used. You know, he never revis islands it. 425 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he plays the slot, he plays linebacker, he 426 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: plays that star position. Not exactly sure what Miami'll do 427 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: with him, but that versatility is great. I'm not knocking 428 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: him for it. But he doesn't line up against Jerry 429 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: Rice like Dion did. Play after play, you know what 430 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: I mean? 431 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 2: Now? Yeah? Yeah, number two on this list. His highest 432 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: ranking was number one, lowest ranking number six, twenty two 433 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 2: years old. Last year he was unranked, and that is 434 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner. 435 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: I don't know that either is here to stay, but 436 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: I'm really happy. Their top two would be my top 437 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: two and they're twenty two and twenty three year old, respectively. Like, 438 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: I think there are a couple stud young corners, you know, 439 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: maybe even the dude in Seattle who is an honorable mentioned. 440 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 2: Well and yeah, well yeah, I forgot his. 441 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: Name for some reason, but Sauce is pretty special. Maybe 442 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: two years from now we'll be like, uh, he's good, 443 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: not great, but he's pretty great. 444 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. And then number one, highest ranking, number one, lowest ranking, 445 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: number ten, twenty three year old. Last year he was 446 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 2: number seven. That's Patrick's certain. 447 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: I can understand the variants. I mean, we opened the 448 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: segment talking about boy, there's a ton of corners. Like 449 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: when we talk receivers, there'll be a lot of guys 450 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: that are highest ranking twos and lowest ranking unranked, just 451 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: because there's so many. Yeah, receivers better than corners. But 452 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: I can't imagine having certained ten. 453 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 2: No, I can't either. Yeah, you know that starts not 454 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: our list. That is the Jeremy Fowlers Top ten list 455 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: of the two that he has released since Monday when 456 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 2: we did the show. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. 457 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Driver on Steelers Nation Radio. We're 458 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: gonna take a break. We'll be back with more right 459 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 2: after this