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Speaker 1: Welcome in What Driving the Great Episode four thirty seven.

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Speaker 1: This episode of What Driving the Grid is presented to

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Speaker 1: you by our friends at boost Mobile. Good morning, demon'say,

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Speaker 1: great to see you as always. Amazing night in the

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Speaker 1: NBA last night, including something that has never happened before

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Speaker 1: and I didn't even really think was possible, a thirteen

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Speaker 1: point overtime comeback. I didn't like the I sat on

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Speaker 1: Wednesday's TV show for the Rockets. The Rockets were in

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Speaker 1: their own tier of teams, and the tier was named

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Speaker 1: they hate each other.

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Speaker 2: And I indicated I don't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it's helped by

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Speaker 1: blowing a third. First of all, they came back themselves

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Speaker 1: from eleven down very late to the Anthony Edwards lists Timberwolves.

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Speaker 1: Then in overtime NAS gets ejected and so the Timberwolves

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Speaker 1: don't have Nas or Anthony Edwards. They're down thirteen and

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Speaker 1: they put a fifteen nothing run on Emai Udoka's squad,

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Speaker 1: and it you know, if a team ever was going

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Speaker 1: to abandon all plans to trade everything imaginable for Giannis

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Speaker 1: in the offseason, the Rockets have a flashing red light

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Speaker 1: that they could be that team. But that wasn't even

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Speaker 1: the biggest game of the night Celtics Thunder, which inexplicably

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Speaker 1: Demon's was not a national TV game. And if you

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Speaker 1: didn't have a League mass, I know you right well,

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Speaker 1: I guess already maxed out. That's what I was gonna say.

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Speaker 1: You can watch everything and I have a league pass,

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Speaker 1: but that was it was shocking to me that wasn't

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Speaker 1: on national TV. And then you also obviously have MLB

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Speaker 1: Opening Day on Netflix. So all of that we will

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Speaker 1: get to over the course of the show. A reminder tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: we will give you our way too early premature NFC

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Speaker 1: over Under show like we did the AFC over Under

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Speaker 1: show last Friday. Next week a slight schedule tweak. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna be live Wednesday and Thursday and then with a

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Speaker 1: mail bag show Friday, so we won't have a show

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Speaker 1: Tuesday next week. But that's another reason to like, rate

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Speaker 1: latest episode's post. But first, quickly straight the voicemail brought

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Speaker 1: Yankees one seven to nothing over the Giants, despite Aaron

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Speaker 1: Judge going oero for five with four K. We will

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Speaker 1: do I think a little more baseball this summer than

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Speaker 1: we've done historically because the Royals, I think are gonna

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Speaker 1: be good and the world baseball class that got me

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Speaker 1: jazzed for it. So we will do some baseball, but

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Speaker 1: not today. Embeid and Paul George returned to the sixers,

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Speaker 1: uh and they score one hundred and fifty seven points

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Speaker 1: and squirrels are hooked on the vape juice is the

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Speaker 1: pictures I'm saying, Listen, I don't really know the science

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Speaker 1: behind it. I do know that go.

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Speaker 2: I think that the vapes have us. They're emitting a smell.

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Speaker 2: I got this from our producer this morning. It's it

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Speaker 2: smells like fruit. They go in there, they try to

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Speaker 2: eat it, and then they just happen to be smoking

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Speaker 2: it because they're trying to get what's inside thro v

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Speaker 1: Folks, throw your vapes, you know what that's that's the

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Speaker 1: lesson to learn here, Throw your vapes in the trash.

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Speaker 1: Protect the squirrels. It's like when I was a kid,

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Speaker 1: they told us back when you got six packs of soda,

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Speaker 1: you had to cut up the little platte rings. Because

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Speaker 1: the dolphins are something. We're getting turtles around their snouts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the turtle something. We now have to, you know, protect

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Speaker 1: the squirrels from Chinese vape juice. All right, reminder, everybody

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Speaker 1: like rate subscribe review to the pod. Let's some personal

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Speaker 1: news to start the show, Demons.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, huge news. Congratulations to you and your show.

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Speaker 2: First Things First was nominated for Most Outstanding Sports the

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Speaker 2: most Outstanding Sports Studio Show. Jimmy has Wemby inspired you

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Speaker 2: to campaign for the award.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna campaign for the award, but I am

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Speaker 1: going to be a touch self indulgent here. But also

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna spend a bit of time on this because

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Speaker 1: I think this is instructive for people in there at

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Speaker 1: any I think there are les lessons. Lessons sounds patronizing.

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Speaker 1: And that sounded pretty patronizing too, as far as yeah,

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Speaker 1: I care deeply about being nominated for this every year.

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Speaker 1: When these nominations came out, I got upset that we

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Speaker 1: of the reasons I liked them before the tournament was

432
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: I thought they had the weakest one seed to deal

433
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: with in Florida. That was confirmed by the fact that

434
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: Florida got clipped by pardon me by Iowa. The added

435
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: bonus of Houston. I don't know if you know this

436
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: de Monday, Houston's Round of sixteen and Elite eight game.

437
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: If they get there. Rice is the host, so it's

438
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: in Houston, and so it's you know, it's at Rice's gym,

439
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 1: and so you know they will have a massive home

440
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: court advantage. They also dominated their first two tournament games

441
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: start to finish, So I like Houston plus one ten

442
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: And I also like tomorrow Saint John's getting six and

443
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: a half against Duke. So Duke has really played I

444
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe fifteen combined good minutes in this tournament,

445
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: the last five against CNN Round one and the last

446
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: ten minutes in their round thirty two game. I think

447
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: Saint John's defense is so good and they're so well

448
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: coached that I think, listen, I picked them to go

449
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: to the final four. So I obviously think they can

450
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: win this game, but I would be I would be

451
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 1: shocked if this is a blowout. Now, what is definitionally

452
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: true about the tournament is you have never seen more

453
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 1: instances of a team down seven with six seconds left

454
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: still fouling, and they will. There are a lot of

455
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: they were down one or two the entire second half,

456
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: lost by nine due to eleven free throws in the

457
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: final minute because teams will never give up. So that's

458
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: you know, maybe the smarter bet would be Saint John's

459
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: plus like four and a half for the first half.

460
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: But if I think they're gonna, you know, win the region,

461
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,959
Speaker 1: if I picked them to be in the final four,

462
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: I'll take them plus the six and a half Agans Duke.

463
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: Knowing that I could get a little screwed there, I

464
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: kind of have that baked in. All right, let's talk

465
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: about the huge game last night.

466
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 2: My Celtics handed Okay see their first loss in February

467
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: or Sincebruary. Since February. I'm sorry, They've got Jada. We

468
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: still got Jason Tatum. Wrapping up, is there a big

469
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: gap between the Celtics and thunder if any?

470
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: I don't think so, and so Tim Bond. Tim's had

471
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: an insane stat that that starting lineup OKAC had yesterday

472
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: their preferred starting lineup of Shae jadab Chet Dort Hartenstein

473
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 1: in the last two regular seasons last two years. Yep,

474
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: that was only their twenty first game starting together. Because

475
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: Chat and Hartenstein missed so much time last year, jadubs

476
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: missed so much time this year, that was only their

477
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: seventh game this season starting together, so we haven't really

478
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: seen them fully whole. Yeah, a bunch, but we did

479
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: in the Here's the thing about OKC, and I'm not gonna,

480
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: you know, kill him for last night because it was

481
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: Jadob's first game back. He plays twenty four minutes to

482
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: seven points. He's two of nine from the field, you

483
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like he's going to have to

484
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: work himself back. However, they were not dominant in the

485
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: playoffs last year. They won and they're deserving champions, but

486
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: two of their series went seven games. One of them,

487
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: you know, that was very nip and tuck early on

488
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: in the game seven of the finals before Halliburton goes down.

489
00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: They even when they weren't full strength, they didn't seem unbeatable.

490
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: And Demon Tatum's just going to get better. And listen,

491
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: he still has not shot fifty from the field in

492
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: the game. I understand that, but he's rebounding like crazy

493
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: last night. You know, you wish he didn't have all

494
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: the turnovers, but he also had seven assists. He also

495
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: had three steals in a block. And Jalen Brown is

496
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: playing with a chip on his shoulder and I think

497
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: it's a multi layered ship. I think it's that he

498
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: knows he's, you know, his best case scenario is finishing

499
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth in MVP. I think there is still

500
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 1: a you know, friendly but rivalry he and Tatum as

501
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: far as you.

502
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: Know, held a regular season You're back and yeah.

503
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: Right, but I think that could be good for Boston.

504
00:38:55,280 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: Like I think Boston's great.

505
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: A gap with Okay, Like I think that Jason Tatum

506
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 2: has a lot more ramping up to do than Jadab

507
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 2: in my opinion, and with the fact that we we

508
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: barely lost them a couple of weeks ago, and then

509
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 2: you know, we just beat them with Tatum barely, I

510
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 2: think the Tatum's got a lot more ramping up to

511
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: do when Jadab has a little bit less.

512
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 1: Well listen, So Tatum's a full strength Tatum is definitively

513
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: better than a full strength Jada. Yeah. However, the Tatum

514
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 1: we saw yesterday was like sixty percent Jason Tatum. Yeah,

515
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: and the Jadub we saw yesterday was like ten percent Jadab,

516
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So even so the I

517
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: know that that was kind of I give what was

518
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: doing your sare what I'm saying? Like that was he

519
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: that was Jadab, his first game back in months, Chat

520
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: also didn't play well. But here's what I'll say. I

521
00:39:54,600 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: don't think Boston is quote a better team definitively unquote

522
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: than oka See over the course of you know, Boston

523
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: versus San Antonio, okay, see versus San Antonio, Boston versus Detroit, Okay,

524
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: see versus Detroit over the course of a season or However,

525
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: I do think Boston's a very tough matchup for oka See.

526
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: If this were to be the finals, I would pick Boston,

527
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: even though OKAC would have home court. Now there is

528
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: the other home court piece of this, which is I

529
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: don't know what the I don't even know if hard

530
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: Rock has these odds, But I don't, you know, I

531
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: probably should have made this announcement earlier. I think San

532
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: Antonio is going to be the one seed, and I

533
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 1: think because of that, Wimby is gonna pick off Shay

534
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: in the MVP race. Whether or not I agree with

535
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: that is a separate discussion for another day. However, demand's

536
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: eight OKC has nine games left, two against Tankers, Chicago

537
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: and Utah. The other seven games OKAC has is Detroit,

538
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: the Knicks, the Nuggets, the Suns, the Clippers and two

539
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: against the Lakers. Okay, so they have they have the

540
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: second hardest schedule remaining. Only Utah is harder. San Antonio,

541
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: on the other hand, they also have nine games remaining. Okay,

542
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: four against tankers Dallas, Chicago, the Bucks. The Warriors aren't

543
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: a tanker, but the Warriors are without Steph, they might

544
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: as well be. Yeah, and their other five are Portland,

545
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 1: the Sixers, and then three hard Ones Clippers, two against Denver.

546
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: San Antonio is the way to look at it is

547
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: they are one and a half games back of OKAC.

548
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: OKC has two fewer losses. If they finish with the

549
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: same record, san Antonio gets the one seed. So the

550
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: if we think, what do we think san Antonio is

551
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: going to go in their final nine? Give them four

552
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: wins already, Golden State, Milwaukee, Chicago, Dallas, give them the

553
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 1: Well let me before I can just quite give them

554
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: Golden State. I just want to check and see when

555
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: that game is. If it's soon, okay, then give them

556
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: Golden State because Steph won't be back by then. If

557
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: it was like April tenth, then it might be a

558
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 1: little different. So four games, there's four wins, two against Denver,

559
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: one against the Sixers, one against the Blazers, one against

560
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: the Clippers. What do we think the worst they go

561
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: there is seven and two or a three and two

562
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: in those five, which would put him at seven and two.

563
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: Let's put him at Let's put him at seven and two.

564
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: If they go seven and two, Okse has to go

565
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: six and three or better. With Again, they have two

566
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: against Tankers, the Jazz, and the Bulls, and then Detroit

567
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: the Knicks, two against the Lakers, the Nuggets, the Suns,

568
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: and the clip Pippers. I think I think because of

569
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: this loss, okay s might get run down. And if

570
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: they if the Spurs get the one seed, Wimby's gonna

571
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: win MVP. I don't have to like it. I don't

572
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: have to agree with it. But and by the way,

573
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: if the Spurs get the one seed, I don't even

574
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: know that I won't like it. The the that's there's

575
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: like a triple negative. But right now I think Wimby

576
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: is third in the MVP race. The one seed historically

577
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: matters so much for this and they would be considering,

578
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, the them overachieving their preseason expectations so much.

579
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: I think it would be something and I wouldn't you know.

580
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: So I don't know that I have a big issue

581
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 1: with it, but I do think that the Spurs right

582
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: now gotta be even money to catch them. And so

583
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: let me ask you this real quick, who do you

584
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: think the Lakers want to be the two seed the

585
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: Spurs are the Thunder.

586
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: I'd say it's the Spurs.

587
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: I I think that's right. I also do feel like

588
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: last year the Lakers, once they got Luca, seemed to

589
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: match up well with OKC. They beat the shit out

590
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: of them one game, and then the other game they

591
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: were playing, Remember, Luca got kicked out with like six

592
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: minutes left and it flipped it. The last team to

593
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: beat the Thunder in a playoff series was a team

594
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: led by Luke ad Ancic when the MAVs beat the

595
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: Thunder two years ago. I don't know. I don't know

596
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: what they would rather. I do know that they oddly

597
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: actually will have a say in it because they do

598
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: play Okay seed twice. And the Lakers are also in

599
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: a very interesting spot as far as their stranglehold now

600
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: on the three seed, because they are two losses clear

601
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: of Denver and the Timberwolves three losses clear of the

602
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: falling apart Houston Rockets, and they have the tiebreaker with

603
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: all those teams. So you know, the Lakers don't have

604
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: the three seed locked up, but they they have Brooklyn

605
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: and Washington next, and that then leaves them Cleveland, OK Seed,

606
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: Dallas ok SEE, Golden State, Phoenix, Utah. So again for

607
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: the Lakers, Brooklyn, Washington, Dallas, Utah, those are wins. So

608
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: how many games they have left against teams trying Cleveland, OKC, OKCE,

609
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: Golden State, Phoenix, So that's five. If they go just

610
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: two and three in those five, Minnesota or Denver would

611
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: have to go undefeated the rest of the way to

612
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: catch them. So the Lakers are in great shape for

613
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: the three seed, which you think will give them Houston

614
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: and round one. But I don't know what that means

615
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: for round two, which is kind of what we're gonna

616
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: talk about here. I got into a little bit, but

617
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: go ahead and ask me this and then we'll get

618
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: into kind of four or five, six more.

619
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 2: Uh. Yeah, So the Rockets are free falling. They were

620
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: on the other side of a comeback in ot JA. Yeah,

621
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant missed a high leverage free throw. Let's talk

622
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: about the state of the Rockets right now? What's going

623
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 2: on over it?

624
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 1: So? I just don't think they like each other. And

625
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: I think.

626
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 2: That who doesn't like who? Just everybody?

627
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: I don't It seems like maybe there is, at least

628
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: for the time being, an Udoka problem. I don't think

629
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: he's done a great job. Okay, I think he's a

630
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: good coach. I don't think he's done a great job

631
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: holding this team together. The fact that they after you know,

632
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: they lost to the Bulls, which is unconscionable, and then

633
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: to blow that lead to the Timberwolves is going to

634
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: have real ramifications. It doesn't seem like they are getting

635
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: what they need out of Reed Shepherd, and some of

636
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: this does have to fall if it feels like the

637
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: team doesn't like each other. We can't ignore the KD.

638
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: Berner stuff from All Star weekend, just can't. It is

639
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: It is hard to They were thirty three and twenty

640
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: going into the break. Since then they're ten and nine.

641
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: They have lost four out of six their wins post

642
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: All Star break demonse. Okay, they beat Charlotte first game

643
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: out of the break. They then beat Utah a tanker,

644
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: Sacramento a tanker, Orlando, which has been so hot and cold.

645
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: Washington a tanker. Portland and Toronto goodwins. New Orleans kind

646
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: of a tanker, not really. I mean they're trying to win,

647
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: but they're not good. And then after the two losses

648
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: to LA, they beat Atlanta and Miami. Those are solid wins.

649
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: That's fine. Miami was by one. They just haven't looked connected.

650
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:31,439
Speaker 1: And once they stopped being this dominant offensive rebounding team,

651
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 1: they their offense, you know, regressed massively to the mean.

652
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 1: And again last night. I if people you know, understandably

653
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: didn't watch the game or didn't see the end of it,

654
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: I just do want to set the scene for what

655
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: happened in overtime. Okay, they are up one o eight

656
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: ninety five in overtime with under three minutes remaining, They're

657
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: up one oh eight ninety five. The possessions then go

658
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: like this, Mike Conley shout out. Mike Conley hits a three.

659
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: Now it's a ten point game. Rockets. Next possession, Jabari

660
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: Smith's you know, ice cold shooting continues. He misses a three.

661
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: The Timberwolves then tip in a miss. Julius Randall layup.

662
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: Now it's an eight point game. Okay. On the tip in.

663
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: Shngoon fouls Kylie Anderson, So it's an and one now

664
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: of a sudden to seven point game. Next possession, Houston

665
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: eight second violation Stevencenzo layup. Now, all of a sudden,

666
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: it's a five point game at the two minute mark.

667
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: At the three minute mark, it was thirteen at the

668
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: two minute markets five. Rockets timeout. Out of the timeout,

669
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: Alpi misses a layup. Next possession, Julius Randall driving layup.

670
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: Now it's a three point game. Out of that possession,

671
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: I'm in. Thompson misses a floater. Uh Rockets get the

672
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: offensive rebound, Katie turns it over. Out of that possession,

673
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: Dante DiVincenzo hits a three. Now it's a tie. Alpi

674
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: misses another one. Julius Randall hits the game winner with

675
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 1: nine seconds left. However, and this is what Demons was

676
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 1: alluding to, fouls k two free throws to tie the game,

677
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: misses the first, so then misses the second on purpose.

678
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: Game over. So Katie didn't get a single shot until

679
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: he got fouled with three seconds left. They blow a

680
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,240
Speaker 1: thirteen point lead in overtime, and you just don't recover

681
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: from that, like I don't know what Houston has left.

682
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: I'll look at it at it real quick. Obviously Phoenix

683
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: is not gonna catch them, and they get a nice

684
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: little respite tonight at Memphis. But and they still have Memphis,

685
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: New Orleans, Milwaukee, Utah, and Memphis again in the season,

686
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,919
Speaker 1: so they'll stabilize as the sixth seed. But that team

687
00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: cannot wait to go home, can't wait to go home.

688
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: And so what we're going to get in the West

689
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: pretty clearly is a round one Rockets Lakers series, which

690
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: is just the best case scenario for the Lakers, and

691
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 1: a round two Nuggets Timberwolves series where those two teams

692
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: are fighting for home court in that series, and that

693
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: should be awesome. The if we're assuming that ant is

694
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: gonna be back, and what the heck is this? Uh,

695
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: If we're assuming that ant is gonna be back, which

696
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: I assume he is, then Nuggets Timberwolves, which is you know,

697
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: was one of when Denver was the defending champ and

698
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 1: gave us that classic seven game series that shocked everyone

699
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: in the Timberwolves one on it two years ago. That

700
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: should be great. So that's gonna be our round one.

701
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: We know we're getting Lakers Rockets. We know we're getting

702
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: Nuggets Timberwolves the rest of round one. We have no

703
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: idea on the Sun should be involved. We don't know

704
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: if OKC or the Spurs are going to be the

705
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: one of the two seed. The West, though, is a

706
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: in a bit of a jumble at the moment in

707
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 1: that regard, and I'm super excited to watch it down

708
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: the stretch. All right. Remind you, guys, you ever notice

709
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Speaker 1: how everything keeps going up? Rents going up, streaming services

710
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712
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Speaker 1: plan at a price that will never go up. In fact,

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Speaker 1: per month as long as they remain active on the

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Speaker 1: Boost Unlimited plan. All right, demons, ask me about the uh.

721
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about the Nuggets.

722
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: Here for a second before we get to the NBA

723
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: Player Association stuff, because I jumped around a bit, but

724
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: go ahead on the nuggets.

725
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: So Yo Kitchen had a near twenty twenty in twenty game,

726
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: Murray went over fifty. Where would you rank these guys

727
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 2: in the list of duos over the NBA.

728
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. I mean, if we're talking about

729
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: like contemporary right now, they're obviously as good as anybody

730
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: right historically. Here the here's what I'll say about Yo

731
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: Kitchen Murray. It's hard to rank them anywhere historically because

732
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: Murray is simply not consistently that caliber of player to

733
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: where he all of the great, the truly great duos

734
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: that we talk about, you have a legend and an

735
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: all time great, and whether that's Magic and Worthy, Burna, McHale,

736
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: Jordan and Pippen, Shaq and Kobe, the two legends there,

737
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: Duncan and Tony or Duncan and Manu Bron and Wade

738
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: Bron and Kyrie, Stephen Clay, Katie and Stephan Jamal Murray.

739
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 1: When Jamal Murray is rolling like he was last night,

740
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: they are they look as good as anybody. Ever, He's

741
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: just not consistently that guy. And it's a testament to

742
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: Jokers greatness. And I'm not listen, Jamal Murray scored fifty

743
00:57:55,840 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: last night against the tanking MAVs. I'm not making anything

744
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: away from the guy, but I don't. I don't look

745
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: at them as anything close to an all time great duo. Now,

746
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: maybe they peeled the title this year from the four

747
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: of the five line. Maybe we look at them differently,

748
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: But right now, I don't look at him like that. Uh.

749
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: I know you have another Joker question? Uh?

750
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he's gone sixty to fifty and fifty over

751
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 2: his last three games. Are we forgetting about him in

752
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 2: the MVP race? You think?

753
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: Listen, I don't. I think I have him fourth. I

754
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: know a lot of people have him third over Luca.

755
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: I would like to just if I may, for a moment,

756
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: make the Luca Well, let me talk Joker, and then

757
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull up this Luca note. Okay, Uh, are

758
00:58:54,040 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: we a little numb to Jokers consistent offensive x lens? Sure?

759
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: I think that's fair has because he has been so

760
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: It's not like he's short on accolades. The guy's got

761
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: three MVPs. Okay, he's got the same number of MVPs

762
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: as Larry Bird. He's one short of Lebron. So he's

763
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: not a guy that it's like, well, you know, he's disrespected.

764
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: Far from it. He is to a point in his

765
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: career where there is not much to do other than

766
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: win more. And that's why, that's why we are somewhat

767
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: numb to these crazy numbers. And speaking of being numb

768
00:59:52,640 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: to the numbers, uh, Luca just averaged forty a game

769
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: on a road a six plus game road trip that

770
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: has not been done since Michael Jordan forty years ago.

771
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: Forty a game over a six game road trip. Last

772
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: guy to do it Jordan in nineteen eighty six. Luca

773
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: also is going to average thirty three plus on a

774
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: fifty win team. And this is where I will get

775
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: a little upset, so to speak. Demons in the last

776
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: sixty years, here are the guys who averaged thirty three

777
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: or more on a fifty win team and their MVP finish.

778
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: Wilt in nineteen sixty six, he won it. I want

779
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: to make sure I'm right about that. Yeah, of course

780
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: I am Wilton sixty six, thirty three and a half

781
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: a game on a fifty win sixers team. He won it.

782
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: Kareem in year two thirty five a game on a

783
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: Bucks team that went on to win the title. He

784
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: won the MVP. Jordan in eighty eight thirty five a

785
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: game on a fifty win Bulls team. He won the

786
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: MVP Jordan in ninety thirty three a game on a

787
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: fifty plus win Bulls team. He came in second. Okay,

788
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: James Harden thirty six a game on a fifty plus

789
01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: win Rockets team. In twenty nineteen, he came in second

790
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: as the defending league MVP. So Jordan and Harden.

791
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,439
Speaker 2: When you first said, I was like, James Harden didn't

792
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 2: do it recently.

793
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: No, No, he did it in twenty nineteen. Yeah, he

794
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: came in second in voting, but he had won it

795
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Speaker 1: the previous year. Jordan did it in ninety after doing

796
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: it in eighty eight and winning MVP there. Joel Embiid

797
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three average thirty three a game for

798
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: a fifty plus win Sixers team. He won it. So

799
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: we have in the last sixty years, Will Kareem, Michael

800
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 1: and Embiid won the MVP for thirty three plus on

801
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:43,479
Speaker 1: a fifty win team. Jordan came in second another time

802
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: when he had already won an MVP. Harden came in

803
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: second when he had already won an MVP, and then

804
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: Luka Doncic two years ago thirty four a game on

805
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: a fifty win team came in a distant third, four

806
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: first place votes out of one hundred four, and Luka

807
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: Anciic this year, who people think is going to finish

808
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: third or maybe even fourth. Every other person to do this,

809
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: this high volume of scoring on this good of a

810
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: team either as won the MVP or come in second,

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Speaker 1: and the guys who came in second had already won MVPs,

812
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 1: except for Luca, who did it once already before and

813
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: that year came in third in MVP voting, but it

814
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: was seventy nine votes yacht Or Jokic fifteen Shay four

815
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Speaker 1: for Luca, and Luca this year who people think is

816
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: going to finish either a distant third or fourth, probably

817
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: with only two or three first place votes fourth. I

818
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 1: think that's I think we are approaching a bit of

819
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: lunacy when it comes to recognizing his utter incomplete dominance

820
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: as an offensive player. And I think we've overstated. Here's

821
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: the thing, is Luca good defender? No do the Lakers

822
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: does the Lakers defense go from an average defense with

823
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: Luke on the court to a horrific defense with Luke

824
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: off the court one fifteen versus one twenty one? They do? So,

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01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: I just I Luca's gonna average thirty three a game

826
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Speaker 1: on a fifty plus win team and nobody cares but me.

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Speaker 1: It's weird. All right. Let's skip everything demands until we

828
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Speaker 1: get to public defender. Let's just do public defender real quick.

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Speaker 2: All right. So on TV, you came out to the

830
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Speaker 2: defense of golf course alligators and saying that Lebron was

831
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 2: in no danger. That was pro bono work. You were

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Speaker 2: officially on the clock counselor defend your client course alligators.

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01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: Let me ask the ladies and gentlemen of the jury

834
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Speaker 1: of question, think about dangerous animals, dangerous wild animals. I

835
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Speaker 1: mean there's you know, there's the go to lions, tigers,

836
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Speaker 1: and bears. Obviously, there are some ones that you probably

837
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Speaker 1: think of hippopotamus, the nile crocodile which has a lot

838
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 1: of blood on his little tiny hands for the defaming

839
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Speaker 1: of alligators. Maybe even some other big cats, a puma,

840
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: a jaguar, a lynx, even possibly a mountain bobcat hell

841
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: rottweilers for some cane corso wild dogs. I ask you this,

842
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 1: what do people do if they're walking around, maybe playing

843
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: some frisbee, maybe hitting a few golf balls, and see

844
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: one of those animals? Do they take a picture they

845
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: pointed out to their friends? Do they just whether or

846
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: not they should hit their shot? Or do they turn

847
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: and run and call the authorities? We all know the answer,

848
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: you know why, because those are legitimately dangerous animals. Those

849
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: and one could never be like, hey, I'm gonna put

850
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars into this land in South Florida,

851
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: build a golf course, put a country club on it.

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Speaker 1: One small thing. There's between twelve to fifteen silverback gorillas

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Speaker 1: roaming around that folks are gonna have to, you know,

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Speaker 1: be aware of. You know why, because those things, to

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Speaker 1: misquote Dave Chappelle, might rip your own arm off and

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Speaker 1: beat you with it. And then there's alligators. Who there's

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Speaker 1: hundreds of golf courses around America. You know what a

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Speaker 1: feature of it is alligators. Now, part of this is

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Speaker 1: Adam Sandler and Happy Gilmore's fault because of Chubbs got

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Speaker 1: his hand bitten off by an alligator. But that's cinema,

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Speaker 1: that's make believe. Part of that is the fault of alligator.

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Speaker 1: You know, genealogical relative crocodile, who are vicious, vicious creatures

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Speaker 1: and they are pardon me here, will fuck you up. Alligators.

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Speaker 1: On the other hand, if you're driving through South Florida,

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Speaker 1: able to get dinner. In a show, watch some guy

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Speaker 1: for eighteen bucks an hour stick his head in an

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Speaker 1: alligator's mouth. Nobody's doing that with tigers. Last folks to

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Speaker 1: try were Sigfreed and Roy didn't go great. Alligators just

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Speaker 1: got bad pr They're not bothering nobody. That's why Bron

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Speaker 1: think about this. A million dollars a year on his body.

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Speaker 1: Nobody cares more about physical health maybe in the entire

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Speaker 1: world than Lebron James. He saw the alligator fifteen feet

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Speaker 1: away and was like.

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Speaker 2: Ah, turned on him.

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Speaker 1: I'll be fine. Alligators. I can't say they've never heard anybody,

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Speaker 1: but I can't say if they had, it likely wasn't

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