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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: The breakfast Club, Yes.

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Speaker 3: Morning, everybody's dj Envy, Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the God.

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Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 3: Jess is out on maternity leave, so we have lour

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Speaker 3: la rosa feeling.

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Speaker 1: And then we got a special guest in.

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Speaker 2: The building, the legendary Her book.

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Speaker 1: Is out right now. Who's that girl?

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Speaker 4: Ev? E?

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Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen, Eve, what's up? Morney?

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Speaker 1: Y'all welcome? Good morning?

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Speaker 2: How you feel? How you feel?

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Speaker 6: I feel good, I'm jet lag, but I'm good. Oh

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Speaker 6: you just got him like Saturday and my kids with me,

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Speaker 6: so yeah, good but good. Happy to be here.

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Speaker 2: You got the memoir out, man, who's that girl?

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Speaker 4: One thing you tell folks right out the gate is

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Speaker 4: how much you initially hated the name Eve?

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Speaker 2: Could you explain that for the people who haven't ready

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Speaker 2: to book yet?

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Speaker 6: Yes, this is the first time I got this question. Actually, yes,

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Speaker 6: because I thought I was cursed because I grew up

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Speaker 6: Jehovah's witness, my Grandma's Jehovah's witness and religious and Eve

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Speaker 6: was the one who made the evil happen in the world.

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Speaker 6: She gave the apple to Adam, so I actually literally

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Speaker 6: for years thought that I was cursed having that name.

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Speaker 2: You know, I grew h it too.

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Speaker 4: You're the first person that ever made me look at

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Speaker 4: that from that perspective, because most people just say Eve

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Speaker 4: is the first lady lady.

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Speaker 6: No, I felt like, well, damn it, she's she's responsible

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Speaker 6: for evil, like because people used to say to me

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Speaker 6: when I was a kid, like you, oh, you you

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Speaker 6: gave Adam. That gave Adam the apple, like literally, and

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Speaker 6: I'm like that's crazy. Why would you say that to

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Speaker 6: a kid? Also like yes, like I don't fucking know him,

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Speaker 6: but yeah, no, I really did think I was cursed.

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Speaker 2: But then you love your name, Eve Johan because you

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Speaker 2: find out what he meant.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Jahan means uh universe, Eve means first lady. And

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Speaker 6: my mom was obsessed with Shah Jahan that built the

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Speaker 6: taj mahll and she changed a letter and then I

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Speaker 6: was like, wow, Eve Johan, like that's a big deal,

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Speaker 6: Like and yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Love my name now, first Lady of the universe.

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Speaker 6: First Lady of the universe.

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Speaker 7: How funny of your life was that switched from I

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Speaker 7: hated to yeah, I'm embracing it, Like how old were you?

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Speaker 6: I was honestly even thirties, late twenties, thirties because I

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Speaker 6: was still in I don't know, I was such a

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Speaker 6: tormented person within mind myself. It took a while. It

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Speaker 6: was years also that I just didn't trust myself. And

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Speaker 6: I talk about in the book, like with drinking and stuff.

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Speaker 6: I just didn't trust myself. So it took it took

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Speaker 1: I was reliving all these memories, right because a lot

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Speaker 1: of these I.

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Speaker 2: Feel naked in this book.

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Speaker 6: I talk about a lot in this book. I definitely

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Speaker 6: we re read stuff. I definitely was like, do I

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Speaker 6: really want to put this stuff out here? But I

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Speaker 6: was like, I think it's important. I think it's important

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Speaker 6: for myself. I think it's important for my kid. I

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Speaker 6: don't want to bring any of my ship onto my kid.

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Speaker 6: But and it's so cheesy to say, but you know,

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Speaker 6: it's what's that saying? What you what? You what you reveal?

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Speaker 6: You can heal what? Yes, exactly, And it's like, I

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Speaker 6: just feel like I need to shed some of that ship.

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Speaker 1: What was the most difficult thing to write in the book.

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Speaker 3: What was the hardest part the hardest if anything?

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Speaker 6: Oh, there was, yeah, listen, I tried. We was editing

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Speaker 6: kind of and then I was like, fuck it, lots

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Speaker 6: of it. I think, being really vulnerable, vulnerable about my

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Speaker 1: What made you deal with it now? You felt like

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Speaker 1: there's other woman probably.

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Speaker 6: Dealing with it percent and the frustration of being a woman.

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Speaker 6: And I talked about this the last time when I

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Speaker 6: There's so many women that are suffering with infertility, and

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Speaker 7: I know that was back in two thousand and six. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So when I heard you talk.

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Speaker 5: Yep. After that happened, when you were.

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Speaker 6: I was so nervous. I was so anxi and I'm

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Speaker 6: an anxiety written person, which is why I drink and

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Speaker 6: I gonna lose this baby? Like I was literally going

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Speaker 6: I was really really scared. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's crazy when you were younger and you

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Speaker 4: don't know what anxiety and I guess you know the

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Speaker 4: depression is. Yeah, we all have those coping mechanisms because

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Speaker 4: they're all around. So whether it's in the lifestyle, in

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, smoked some more. What the fuck are

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Speaker 6: talking about mental health, nobody's talking about depression. Like literally,

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Speaker 6: It was what it was, was.

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Speaker 6: Honestly, my d u I, my DUI was the time

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Speaker 6: It was when I couldn't drink. It was when they

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Speaker 6: Why am I trying to numb myself? What is the problem?

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Speaker 6: And I had to sit with my shit and I

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Speaker 5: It was the biggest moment.

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Speaker 7: And when when you were sitting with yourself what was

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Speaker 5: I can't believe this is something I have to deal with.

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Speaker 6: Well cause I lived in l A too, so I

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Speaker 7: My friends who got fired by their therapists are like

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Speaker 7: really messed up. So how did you get fired by its?

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Speaker 5: Did she call what was that called?

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't even honestly, I would be like, can you

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Speaker 6: end of the day, you cannot look outside yourself, does

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Speaker 7: Was that moment in LA that you were about to

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Speaker 6: It was me crying on the floor, depression, crying, crying

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Speaker 6: being like listen, I need you to help me figure

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Speaker 1: At that time where we're friends, family, associates.

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Speaker 6: So my other issue is that I push people away.

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Speaker 6: And that's another thing that I realized is emotionally, I

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Speaker 6: If shit was bad, we screamed. Also, you just knew

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Speaker 6: Now that is a good question. Love for sure, love.

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Speaker 6: You know that's real. I do because I could talk

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Speaker 2: Yes, you know, I probably scared for you growing up

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Speaker 4: Because my parents raise us out of fear because they

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Speaker 2: I end up like them like my dad.

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Speaker 6: No, I look at and i'm you know, I look

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Speaker 8: You shot every now and then just to you know,

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Speaker 2: Another good part in the book is the unbeknownst to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, early, yes, Yes, it's funny because that was one

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Speaker 6: it's nothing bad about that, you know, It's It's one

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Speaker 6: wasn't saying it out of malice or mean. That wasn't

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Speaker 8: Really it felt like he was trying to temple your expectation,

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Speaker 8: Yes exactly.

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Speaker 6: But I was like, hh, okay, let me see. I'm

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Speaker 6: And it went on to be fine. But and like

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Speaker 6: what I'm saying, we all have that thing or someone

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Speaker 3: One of the dopest things I love is you talk

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Speaker 3: don't really hear that that much, And how Rough Riders

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Speaker 6: Listen, I was so fucking protected. I'm so forever grateful

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Speaker 6: as well that Rough Riders is the crew that I

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Speaker 7: That's one of the things I was wondering about. That's

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Speaker 7: how I was so excited to meet you. I was like,

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Speaker 5: Much how Philly she's still gonna be?

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Speaker 6: No Philly, I never that can never go, That can

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Speaker 6: never ever go. I do say words now and then

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Speaker 6: I will say my managers that he's from London. I

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Speaker 6: I do say jumper, but Philly is always always. You

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Speaker 6: can't take it out of me. You can't take it

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Speaker 5: Your baby's a bit older now, I know.

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Speaker 7: I saw you talk about exposing your husband to like

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Speaker 7: Eve from Philly, Like, whatever, how do you what?

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Speaker 5: Are you having those conversations with your baby yet?

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Speaker 1: Are you?

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Speaker 5: Is he back and forth? Like, are you doing that

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Speaker 6: No, he comes back and forth to Philly. Will be

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Speaker 6: and I feel like he needs that, and it's gonna

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Speaker 6: so different and his cousins. Yes, he does, he says, garage, garage,

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Speaker 6: Wait till he says, John, Wait, I need to start

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Speaker 6: teaching him that now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and the things fall apart.

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Speaker 4: Chapter you said that you feel like the spirit of

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Speaker 4: the rough Riders died with DMX God blessed the dead

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Speaker 4: when that r r chapter of your life clothes. Did

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes and no. Yes in the sense of obviously

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Speaker 6: rest we were supposed to do a rough riut of tour.

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Speaker 6: We have been talking about a rough out of tour,

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Speaker 3: I always wanted to know the Rough Riders record, right, yeah,

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Speaker 3: the remix when you were on it?

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Speaker 1: Did you know what it was? As soon as you

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Speaker 1: heard that record? Break that down? When as soon as

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Speaker 5: Oh no, you know what?

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Speaker 6: I knew. I knew it was a fucking dope verse.

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Speaker 6: I did know that. I was like, nah, this this

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Speaker 6: I was like, this is the verse. I didn't know

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Speaker 6: And I didn't sound like they were carrying me like

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Speaker 6: I knew it, Like I was like, okay, I'm supposed.

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Speaker 5: To be here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Was that that moment that I.

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Speaker 6: Was that moment that on the radio. That was that moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was gonna ask you get tired of

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Speaker 3: telling the same stories over and over, right, because listening

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Speaker 3: to your hip hop stories since you've been up here,

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Speaker 3: since we finally I know the stories.

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Speaker 1: Like I know the May story.

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Speaker 4: I know I'm forty six.

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Speaker 2: Lauren, who's thirty two, it's brand new to her.

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Speaker 5: I knew the main story.

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Speaker 7: I'm from Delaware though, so the way we connected Delaware, No,

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Speaker 7: but Eve, it's right there, Like, yeah, so I knew

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Speaker 7: that only because of that.

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Speaker 5: But there are a lot of people.

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Speaker 7: I saw people reacting online when when like episodes of

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Speaker 6: Does that freak you out at all? Like when people

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Speaker 6: are like some of it? Because what's what's annoying to me.

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Speaker 6: I was talking about this the other day. It was

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Speaker 6: stripper thing, right. What's annoying to me about it, though,

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Speaker 6: is that people fixate so much on it still that

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Speaker 6: I'm like, bitch, I was eighteen, it was I was

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Speaker 6: the craziest thing about that is not that I was stripper,

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Speaker 6: I was just saying it yesterday, is that I was

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Speaker 6: on top of.

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Speaker 8: That, but but on top of that, the revelation of

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Speaker 8: oh damn, that was a dope moment.

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Speaker 6: No, she's just a fucking st like, bro, are you serious?

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Speaker 6: Like so that annoys me and I actually that was

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Speaker 6: like people who did know my story might be like, oh, well,

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Speaker 6: why shouldn't talk about that? So yeah, I don't know. Yes,

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Speaker 6: it gets annoying, but that's I think that was another

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Speaker 6: reason for doing this book, because I'm like, these are

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Speaker 6: now I'm good. Now it's time to move on.

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Speaker 2: But it's also because got a new resurgence. What it shows.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, yes, yes that's true, that's true, but but no,

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Speaker 6: crazily enough, people don't even say his name to me.

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Speaker 6: They just talked about the stripping really yes, like it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, basically just telling you don't have to do this.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean he was literally telling me. He was

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Speaker 6: just like, what do you want to do? He was

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Speaker 6: where I was already questioning why am I here? What

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Speaker 4: For the record, every man says that to the badest script,

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Speaker 4: you don't have to the girls do it too.

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Speaker 5: I'm like that, I do have the girl outside of here, but.

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Speaker 6: I do that as well.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, my friends be like, please put Lawrence cash up

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Speaker 7: away because she just because I'd be like, dang you

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Speaker 7: in nursing school.

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Speaker 5: All of y'all in nurses school.

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Speaker 2: Did the TV show Eve? Yes, the name of the

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Speaker 2: show was Eve. Yeah, but your character's name Michelle. I

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Speaker 6: That's what the network wanted. And then they was like, oh,

438
00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,440
Speaker 6: like the Cosby's where it was they were the Huxtables,

439
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,880
Speaker 6: but his name was Cosby, so everybody knew to show

440
00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,560
Speaker 6: trust me. I tried to fight him. They I had.

441
00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:13,560
Speaker 6: I tried to fight him.

442
00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,080
Speaker 4: That's another part of your life. I feel like doesn't

443
00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,199
Speaker 4: get talked about enough. You had a sitcom to me,

444
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:19,879
Speaker 4: you know what I mean?

445
00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:20,640
Speaker 1: That did well?

446
00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, that did well. I was very very lucky it

447
00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,560
Speaker 6: did well. And I didn't take it as seriously as

448
00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,520
Speaker 6: I feel like I should have or could have. And

449
00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,359
Speaker 6: I talk about that in the book. I don't believe

450
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,679
Speaker 6: in regrets, but probably that's my only one of my

451
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,400
Speaker 6: only ones where I just didn't take it as seriously

452
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,560
Speaker 6: as I could have. Would different I would have shown

453
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,359
Speaker 6: up to table reads, not coming straight from the club.

454
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,960
Speaker 6: I would not be having after parties in my dressing

455
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,679
Speaker 6: room I was doing, Yeah, but I was the youngest

456
00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,120
Speaker 6: one set and I was trying to figure out how

457
00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 6: I was a real rapper, Like literally, like I was

458
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,159
Speaker 6: having after party. We've come from the club, go to

459
00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,480
Speaker 6: my dressing room, and then I'm like I gotta be

460
00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 6: on set, like and did not realizing like how many people,

461
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,159
Speaker 6: how many the crew? You know what I'm saying. Like,

462
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 6: So I just I really would have done that differently.

463
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 2: Yes, does Eve care about the industry at all at

464
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 2: this point.

465
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,639
Speaker 6: In earlier No, not really, Yeah, not really, not in

466
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,120
Speaker 6: the same way. Definitely not, I think because I did

467
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 6: go through so much torment within myself that now it's

468
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 6: kind of PTSD to a certain extent. So I feel

469
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 6: like that's why I do dip in and out, because

470
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 6: I know, I think it's I think it's healthy for me.

471
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 5: What was the torment?

472
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 7: Because you keep talking about questioning yourself, second guessing yourself

473
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 7: and non torment, like, what was it?

474
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 6: It was all personal shit. It was all personal shit

475
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 6: mixed with I don't think. I think at the time,

476
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 6: I probably was depressed, but I just didn't know it, honestly,

477
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 6: which is why I did drink as much as I drank.

478
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,440
Speaker 6: But I just didn't understand it. I just didn't know it.

479
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 6: And I also did have no one to talk to

480
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 6: about it. The times that I would go cry to people,

481
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 6: they'd be like, You'd be all right, like you know

482
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So then I'm like, well, what's wrong

483
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 6: with me? Like literally, okay, then maybe I'm I don't know,

484
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 6: maybe I'm not supposed to be here. It was a

485
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 6: lot of that kind of questioning am I truly happy?

486
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 6: Am I only doing? And is this what I'm supposed

487
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 6: to be doing? And then I think, yeah, it was.

488
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 6: It was a lot of my own personal torment.

489
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 5: It really was.

490
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to ask about.

491
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 1: You know the cat woman comment. Right, Oh, like people

492
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 1: forget who you are and all the things that you do.

493
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 6: Work for a long long what is that?

494
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 1: What does that come from? Like, like, do y'all.

495
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 8: Know there's nothing, there's.

496
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 6: No listen if you could do it, if you get great,

497
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 6: God bless you. If that's what you want and that's

498
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 6: who you are. I have zero personally, I have zero

499
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,360
Speaker 6: problems with it. I think it's a disservice to who

500
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 6: I am and what I've done and what I built

501
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 6: for myself. That's why I have a problem with it. Like, yeah, okay, yeah,

502
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 6: I married this dude. I'm not gonna marry a broke dude.

503
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 6: That's real, Like, but he's not. I think people also

504
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 6: put on him more than what he is, and he's

505
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 6: not that we we do stuff for each other together,

506
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 6: Like he's just a dude I fell in love with.

507
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 6: Like he's a billionaire, right, he's not a billionaire?

508
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,439
Speaker 5: Oh, because that was always the headlines.

509
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,640
Speaker 6: Even I'm like, and that's why I'm like, no, he's

510
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 6: not a billionaire.

511
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: A bird by the way he looked.

512
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 2: Millions, you know.

513
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 8: No.

514
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 6: But at the same time, like, no, I'm not I'm

515
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,919
Speaker 6: not kept. If I didn't want to work, it'd be fine.

516
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 6: But it's just who I am to the core, to

517
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 6: my DNA, like I just it's just who I am.

518
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: And how was the transition to London? When you decided

519
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 1: to move to London?

520
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 6: It was one place though, it was one place and

521
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 6: it was good and they were from the They did

522
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 6: have Ammarosso's bread, which was the good bread, but then

523
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 6: I think they shut down.

524
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: Okay, So how was moving to million sixty million?

525
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 5: Where the billionaire thing came from?

526
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 6: I don't know. I think maybe because he's white and British.

527
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 8: You never said.

528
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I swear to God that matter in

529
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 6: fact checked that.

530
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 5: I just maybe because he is white in British.

531
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 6: I thought, because I'm gonna be honest, I never.

532
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 5: Said it was you.

533
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 7: And then it was Remember when Rihanna was with the Yeah,

534
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 7: they had like photos of y'all like girls, we can

535
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 7: do it.

536
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: We can know it.

537
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 5: There were means. Yeah, that's why I remember how much

538
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 5: money I thought he was worth.

539
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: So I was a transition to moving to London.

540
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 6: No cheese steak, No, it was hard. The first two

541
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 6: years were really brutal, definitely, and I still have moments

542
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 6: where I missed, like conveniences and things. I know. British people,

543
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 6: I love you because you're different.

544
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: You good, You use.

545
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 6: The warm, but some of them ain't warm. Some of

546
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 6: them could be cold. It's hard to get in there,

547
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 6: Like it took a minute. It takes a minute. It

548
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 6: takes a minute, and it's still weird and different. But

549
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 6: I've been there ten years, like it is actually home.

550
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 3: Like so when you get a presidential race, you'd be like, God,

551
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna stay in lonon.

552
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 6: No, but I'm still vote. And from that I already

553
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 6: put in my ABSENCEY make sure y'all get like, because

554
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 6: it's important because I'm still American. I am American, and

555
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 6: I do care what happens here because at once, at

556
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 6: some point, I want to come back with my kids,

557
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 6: so he experience I wanted to go to college here,

558
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 6: like that is my goal, Like I want him to

559
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 6: come back, and I pray by then that the country

560
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 6: is what it needs to be.

561
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 7: All imagine being Eve's kid in college. Your dad we

562
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 7: already thought to you dad was a billionaire. Your mom

563
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 7: is Eve, and you just pop up in college with

564
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 7: this crazy accent that people are gonna love seeing John

565
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 7: like he's gonna have a great time in college.

566
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: We gotta talk about NYU. What are you?

567
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I am Professor Jeffu's cooper. Now I'm doing

568
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 6: there Steinhardt residency year residency. So basically I get to

569
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 6: teach whatever I want or just come and just I

570
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 6: won't say vibe because it's more than that. But it's

571
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 6: like conversations about who I am, what I am, what

572
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 6: they offer, and then we're gonna do like a big

573
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,959
Speaker 6: event in the spring with some of the students from there,

574
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 6: the musicians, everything like that. So this is a huge

575
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 6: deal for me because I mean I never knew this

576
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 6: was even available, Like I would have never even thought

577
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 6: this was something. So I'm very very honored to be

578
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 6: there that. Yeah, what is it called residency? But is

579
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 6: it scholar and resident?

580
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: Yes? So do you have to be there?

581
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 2: It'll be I do so.

582
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 6: No, so I have to do two. I'm doing my

583
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 6: first event next Saturday, just like meet and greet, and

584
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 6: then I do my first official one in November.

585
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 1: You have a curriculum and everything.

586
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, first official one in November, I'm going to do

587
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 6: one in London, and then in the spring back here

588
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 6: and then if I want to continue, then we'll see

589
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 6: what happens.

590
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 7: But when you're here, does your family, like your husband

591
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 7: and all you guys kids come with you.

592
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 6: The baby is here, but my husband is doing gumball,

593
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 6: which is how we met. His rally it's my first

594
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 6: one I haven't done in ten years. But and then

595
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 6: in Asia, so hi baby, Yeah, we met on the gumball.

596
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 6: I was driving on the gum ball.

597
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 4: Yes.

598
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 1: Yes, it's a long drive.

599
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 6: It's three thousand miles and seven days much. I know

600
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 6: it's a lot. But you need coal driver, Just get

601
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 6: a dope even get like to look at me selling it. Listen,

602
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 6: two coal drivers, somebody for the music, somebody to make

603
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 6: sure you could drink one night and then then the

604
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 6: next person drive. Like, if you want to do it,

605
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 6: I will map it out for you. I promise. It's

606
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 6: something I feel like everybody should experience.

607
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: I wanted to do it and then broadcast from the

608
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: different countries.

609
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 6: No, I'm telling you do it, and I swear and

610
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 6: I'm not even saying it just because I'm his wife.

611
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 6: It's one of the best times I've ever had. That

612
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 6: when when that week comes around, like I'm really sad.

613
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 6: I'm missing it, like really sad. But I mean bum

614
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 6: Beat does it, and my big bro like he does

615
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 6: it every year, so please do it. Y'all should do it.

616
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 6: Y'all should do it next year.

617
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 5: I know that, No, do it.

618
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: I can't commit to that doing my anxiety set up.

619
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 2: I don't know.

620
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 6: You can drive. It's not a race, it's a rally.

621
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 6: It's a lot for him. Oh yeah, it's a lot.

622
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 5: It is a lot.

623
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: You bored because you are creative, you know what I'm saying,

624
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: just like okay, okay.

625
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 6: No, Well, because I don't drink or anything like that anymore.

626
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 6: I do. I have an occasional drink. I ain't smoking

627
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 6: weed in London, no disrespect to anybody in London, but

628
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 6: it's just different. I don't know to write people. I

629
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 6: know one dude that's smoke, but I don't even know,

630
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 6: like I'm cool, So I've stopped. I've stopped, but yeah, no,

631
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,719
Speaker 6: I don't know. My son is everything. And then I

632
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 6: chill like I do chill. But I did say this

633
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 6: to a friend of mine. I'm not doing anything creatively

634
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 6: to feed my soul. I mean this book helped a lot,

635
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 6: just writing because I shout out to Kathy by the way,

636
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 6: my co writer. She's amazing and has her own credits

637
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 6: and amazing books on her own. But writing doing this

638
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 6: process with her actually helped me a lot. And we're

639
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 6: already thinking about the next book. So yeah, but I

640
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 6: do need to do more creative things to feed my soul.

641
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 6: I believe that you still all I write poems more.

642
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 6: I went back to that because that's where I kind

643
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 6: of first started that being said. We are talking about

644
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 6: because this book also falls around the twenty fifth anniversary

645
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 6: of my first album, so yes, let that be eve.

646
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 6: So we are talking about reworking stuff to put it

647
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 6: out next year, so there will be some new stuff

648
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 6: next year.

649
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 7: If you rework stuff or like do anything music wise,

650
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 7: would you add any of the new girl artists.

651
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 6: I definitely want to. I definitely want to. We're still

652
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 6: talking about top three go to Yeah, I don't know.

653
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: That's hard.

654
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 6: I ain't even gonna lie because we've been talking about it.

655
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 6: Because ultimately, I don't want to do anything that looks

656
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 6: like I'm just jumping on some shit just to jump

657
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 6: on it. I feel like it needs to be it

658
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 6: has to be organic and write for those kinds of

659
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 6: those records, So we're still figuring it out.

660
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: I feel like would make a lot of sense.

661
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 4: But the interesting thing about Eve, like Eve, you're such

662
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 4: a one on one even now, I can't think of

663
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 4: any body who I would compare it because she.

664
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: Did sexy rap, but then she did the positive raps.

665
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: She did the women's empowerment rap, but then she also

666
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: did that.

667
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 6: Right to think about who to put on stuff.

668
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 7: To be honest, the meaning of like come out of

669
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 7: Philly is just a little bit different too. And this

670
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 7: girl's coming out of Philly like they got rocky amazing,

671
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 7: Like there's girls that are trying to come out of Philly,

672
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 7: but they haven't hit like a sexy red or like yet.

673
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 5: So I don't know if if the.

674
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 6: I mean, but I'm yeah, I don't know. I had

675
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 6: to figure it out. I mean, the dope to do

676
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 6: a whole Philly like female.

677
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 3: Something to what the thought process was back then, because

678
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 3: when you came out, like I'm just thinking about it,

679
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 3: you did you wasn't in a single a box, right,

680
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 3: You did the sexy rap at times, but then you

681
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 3: did the women empowerment rap, but then you.

682
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: Remember even doing sexy rap, she just was a flying chick.

683
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 5: No, but I think yeah, the demeanor was sexy though, Yeah,

684
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 5: it was very much like yeah.

685
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 6: I don't think yeah. Lyrically, I don't think I really

686
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 6: went there. But when it came to maybe like yeah style, it.

687
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 5: Was Yeah, it wasn't force.

688
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: Was that was that?

689
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 3: Was that forced when you thought about it? Or was

690
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: that something that you was conscious of doing? Or is

691
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 3: that was just eve?

692
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 6: It was just me? It was just honestly, it was

693
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 6: just me. It was what I wanted to show. My

694
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 6: easiest album, I think was the first album because I

695
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 6: feel like I was writing the album my whole life.

696
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 6: It was the other albums that I literally had to

697
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 6: think about, the second album, the third album. But that

698
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 6: being said, I kind of just did what I felt.

699
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 6: I kind of just did what I felt like I

700
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 6: wanted to do. Yeah, it wasn't no herem or reason

701
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 6: when you.

702
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: Did love his blind Was the label behind it or

703
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: they was like this is totally from what's out now?

704
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 6: I was shocked that they were behind it. I was

705
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 6: actually really shocked, especially that early in my career with

706
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 6: rough Riders, but they were. They were completely behind it.

707
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 6: I think once I added the third verse where I

708
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 6: also popped them like it also, Yeah, it was like

709
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 6: I think that was fine, but yeah, they were totally

710
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 6: behind it.

711
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, well we I know you said earlier that you

712
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 7: guys have been talking about a reunion before DMX pass.

713
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 7: Would you or would y'all consider doing something like that

714
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 7: now without him being here? You feel like it couldn't

715
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 7: be done without him.

716
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 6: I don't know. I would leave that up to D

717
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 6: and Y to figure out. I think that would be

718
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 6: up to them, and if they want to bring us together,

719
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 6: I'll always be there, of course, but I think it's

720
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 6: more up to them to figure it out.

721
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 4: You know, in the Hollywood chapter, you talk about going

722
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 4: to the Church of Scientology.

723
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: Could you explain to the people what the hell made

724
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: you do that?

725
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 6: Because I got invited by somebody who I.

726
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: Was like, yes that.

727
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 6: I was like, well, if you're going, I just need

728
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 6: to see Plus I'm very much Bart Simpson like, I'm

729
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 6: very much. I will touch the fire just to make

730
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 6: sure it's fire. And when the hell else am I

731
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 6: going to get into the celebrity Scientology censor. I was

732
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 6: scared of ship. The whole time I was in there.

733
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 6: I did not eat the food. That was like they're

734
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 6: gonna yes and bring it.

735
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 5: Crazy.

736
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 6: I don't want to say because I don't even know

737
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 6: if it's she's I don't want to out nobody because

738
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 6: I don't even know she's still doing it. So only

739
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 6: for those reasons. Child, that ship was crazy and I

740
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 6: was hungover. That was the other thing.

741
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 5: I remember that.

742
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 6: That's why I was so stressed. But it was very weird.

743
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 6: You definitely got to read that chapter.

744
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 7: So you walked in and is there like access codes

745
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 7: or like the people with you? There's like people everywhere

746
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 7: in every like there are people everywhere watching everything, and there.

747
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 6: Are special people to walk you today. It was they

748
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 6: all wear the same thing like it was crazy.

749
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 4: Was it one of those things where you felt like,

750
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 4: since I'm in the industry now, I guess I should

751
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 4: be doing this because this is what people in the

752
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 4: industry do.

753
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 5: Well.

754
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 6: I was more curious because of this person. We had

755
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 6: kind of had a light like friendship. It wasn't like

756
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 6: a but because we were getting to know each other.

757
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 6: So I was curious in that way of like, oh interesting,

758
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 6: why what made her do that? Let me go see Meanwhile,

759
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 6: obviously I'm still on this. What am I doing? What's

760
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 6: going on, But I quickly was like, this is not No.

761
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 5: You told your family about that?

762
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 6: What they say? No, like my mom.

763
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 7: Yet all the rules of mom and grandma wouldn't.

764
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 5: Have been with the psychic town.

765
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 6: I know, No, they wouldn't have been with it, like

766
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 6: my grandmother for sure. My mom now she's like whatever,

767
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 6: she's like, you are who you are now like Crystal's

768
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 6: stage or she knows who I am.

769
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: But back then, no, New Newton, what your mom still

770
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: in the hall?

771
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 6: No, No, my mom's not. My grandmother is Grandma? My

772
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 6: grandmother is still waiting for thousand.

773
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: Yes she sliff you watched out and the waits every

774
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: now and then.

775
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 6: No, she's actually good. She leaves she honestly, she leaves

776
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 6: us alone. But that's her thing.

777
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 5: It's all good.

778
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 4: You know what I wanted to ask you to even

779
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 4: Destruction chapter you talk about your time with Aftermath, and

780
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 4: you know when you got dropt from the.

781
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: Label, Dray didn't even bother to call you.

782
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 4: How was it when things came full circle? You done

783
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 4: blew up and y'all ended up doing let me blow

784
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 4: your mind? Did y'all even did you bring that up

785
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 4: to him? Like you know, you ain't even call me when.

786
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 6: You No, I didn't even need to. I remember before

787
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 6: we even did Blow Your Mind, we did the Source

788
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 6: Awards and I was like, yeah, I'm on the same

789
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 6: stage as you with the Rough Riders, like so it

790
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 6: went from that to Jimmy being like, y'all need to

791
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 6: get back in the studio do a song. And it

792
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 6: was kind of just me being so extra extra Philly,

793
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 6: like yeah, okay, well let me hear it, beat let

794
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 6: me hear it, like so extra like. So we never

795
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 6: ever discussed it, but we also knew Listen dra is

796
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 6: one of the greatest, like right, so I knew he

797
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 6: was going to get it out of me. I just

798
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 6: I made it hard. I made it hard.

799
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they album the book.

800
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: Who's That Girl?

801
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 6: Thank you for having me?

802
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 4: Final question about Who's that Girl? Yes, who were you

803
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 4: at the start of this book? And who would you

804
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 4: say you are?

805
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 6: That's a good question. At the start. I definitely tried

806
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 6: to write it like an interview, and Kathy actually checked

807
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 6: me on that because she was like, look, I don't

808
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 6: want to take you back to trauma, but you need

809
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 6: to emote for people to understand where you're coming from.

810
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 6: So I think I was slightly guarded. And then as

811
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 6: I went through it and I'm getting I dont know,

812
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 6: I'm getting emotional. First time asked me this question. I

813
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 6: just feel like all that ship that I had on,

814
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 6: like one of my healers used to call it an

815
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 6: invisible backpack of ship of other people, ship of your

816
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 6: ship like that ships off and listen, my life's been great.

817
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 6: This is This is not a book about being like

818
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 6: fun that. This is not a book. This is a

819
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 6: book about me realizing how as much as I say

820
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 6: I was in this personal tourm turmoil term turmoil turmoil,

821
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 6: how determined I was to believe in myself to get

822
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 6: to a certain place, and that at the end of

823
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 6: the book, I was like, damn, I'm proud of myself.

824
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 4: So yeah, memoir out right now for joining us.

825
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 6: I did not expect tears to like at all, but

826
00:35:50,320 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 6: thank you for having me. I ain't seen now, y'all

827
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 6: just be hinder.

828
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 5: You can let it flow. We need it for the content.

829
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 3: Hanging up the tissues right, let me throw it all right,

830
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 3: it's the breakfast Club is Eve.

831
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you.

832
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 2: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club