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Speaker 1: Philadelphia's right on the other side of the bridge. It's yeah,

426
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: if you were in East Washington or eastern Oregon, totally

427
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: different ball of wax than those parts of the state. So,

428
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: you know, so she was shut and I believe her

429
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: thing was well, I didn't disclose it to him, and

430
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: we got up to a panic because he pushed her

431
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,239
Speaker 1: right off the car and got on to me. The

432
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: only pushback I have on on the situation from her

433
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: conduct standpoint is just the fact that like I think

434
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: in this case, given the behavioral pattern her honestly, being

435
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: transits incidental, and that if you're a teenager, particularly like

436
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: a like a minor type teenager, and you're meeting grown

437
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: men off the internet late at night routinely, you're asking

438
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: for it as a regular woman. Like I mean, there's

439
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: a girl I know that this day. Remember one time

440
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: I met her out I thought she was a college

441
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 1: student because she said she was a junior. She trans

442
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,239
Speaker 1: junior high school. She came back to my spot. I

443
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: didn't mess with her because I was a little funny

444
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 1: about it and she was being kind of caught, and

445
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: then she admitted it in the morning after. We didn't

446
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: do anything step in separate rooms. But if I picked

447
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: somebody up off the internet and found out the legal

448
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: age consenting, Wassington, the six team, whatever, I'm just saying.

449
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm just saying in general speak, you know what I mean.

450
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: But but I think what Steel is saying is really

451
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: important at this point, like that, Okay, yes, we have

452
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: created a space for women to be unaccountable. We created

453
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: that space, and I blame me, and we did it,

454
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: and that's fine. That's the main reason why I believe

455
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: the trans women are women because they apparently don't want

456
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: to be accountable, and women don't want to be accountable,

457
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 1: so therefore they don't want to be accountable. There are

458
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: a woman that's a transitive property of basic algebra, which

459
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: you know, what I was saying is rape is important

460
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: even for that type of situation. That young girl tried

461
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: to rape Peter pretty much. He limited the information she

462
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: told him. She knew that he would think, she would

463
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: not think she tried to rape him, and if he

464
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: would have went and participated, he would have got charged.

465
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: And that's where I think it's important to where um

466
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 1: because we are moving women into a space of equality,

467
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: you know, not as individually, because I still don't hold

468
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: women accountable, but they also have to treat me like

469
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty much there to make sure they're okay. Plus,

470
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: technology has afforded a lot more ability for people to

471
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: falsify their presentation in a million ways, not only in this,

472
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: in the transwab you can lie about your age, you

473
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: can lie about your name, you can lie about anything

474
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: about yourself. And then, yeah, I think, especially in that

475
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: case you've had through sexual identity changed, I think if

476
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: you don't let someone know, I think you should be

477
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: charged with fraid and you should go to jails, just

478
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: like Peter. I'm gonna tell you what a slippery slope

479
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: that els. Let's say that little girl feel dejected, because

480
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, there are some women that our attention oars.

481
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: They just they love the attention of it. Right. Let's

482
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: say she got a wild hair barass the next morning

483
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: and called her dad or called whoever. I stayed over

484
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: this guy's house and bump when he made me. The

485
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: police would have been up over there and your they

486
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: would have been snatching you about your house and leading

487
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: you off the handcuffs down the street, and you would

488
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: have the jacket on you as being a rapist. And

489
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 1: even though you mayn't touch the girl, as soon as

490
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: it got out, it's like us as men, we're automatically

491
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: putting that like we're automatically just guilty. Your man, So

492
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: you have your man said, whatever you do, you're guilty.

493
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: How many times have we seen cases of women lying

494
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: on dudes. I'm not Oh, listen, let me let me finished.

495
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: Women going, you know, guys going to jail for years

496
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: dude on some false stuff. Later on DNA if this

497
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: comes up to dissolve them of these crimes. They've lost

498
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: their life. They've lost fifteen, twenty years, sometimes thirty years

499
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: of their life already. They never get that back. But

500
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: what I was saying before Internet went out, I think

501
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: the loss of life is always tragic. I think that

502
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: any violent acts against people, you know from the lg

503
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: b QT or whatever one of these anachronisms, you know,

504
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: whether it is man, I think. I think whatever they

505
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: are man, I think that's the right for them to

506
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: do what they want to do. And I don't think

507
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: I have the right. You or anybody else got the

508
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: right to go out there and put hands on them

509
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: for that. But if you're impeding on my space, you're

510
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: raping me. If you're making me do something that's not

511
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: my choice, I've been raped. So I should get the

512
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: same justice. There's some another human being would the feet

513
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: of the female agenda, I think I should get the

514
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: same rights. I think we should have the same rights.

515
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: It makes me think about that R. Kelly situation where

516
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: you got girls that's magic with R Kelly, Like Ray

517
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: does have to start going another way, Like rape is

518
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: not just simply defined as this forcible thing. It also

519
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: can be this course thing. So I think that's one

520
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: of those situations. And I think in that particular TV

521
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: show when Nikki, you know, I'd imagine that's what's happening.

522
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: And her family knows that's what's happening, you know what

523
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: I mean, They know that, you know, Nikeolas was desperate

524
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: to be treated like a woman, so they started conducting

525
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: themselves as women. It was feeling that way since he was,

526
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: since she was, since she was a kid. They showed pictures.

527
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: You can see the picture of was four years ago.

528
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: He had long blonde here and the stick, the lipstick,

529
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: and they said her, you know, her brother said that

530
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: he would walk around the house and he uses a

531
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: little kid, moms and everything, and you know, part of

532
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: me made me think because her and her mom was

533
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: so close, it made me think that she had three

534
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: sons and maybe the mom I was dressing a little

535
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: that the brothers and kills her the mon like, that's

536
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: not me. She you know, Nicholas is doing it himselves.

537
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: She said, yeah, exactly. So I genuinely think there are

538
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: people who are born in into that place to where

539
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: that's just the wiring. I think I've all I went

540
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: on record with saying this, um a snitch is worse

541
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: than a pedophile, But the act of pedophilia is worse

542
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: than the act of snitching. Does that make sense? You

543
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. I understand what you're saying. Like

544
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: a pedophile, it's worse than a snitch, but the act

545
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: of snitching. Excuse me, the act of pedophilia is worse

546
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 1: than the act of snitching, because I think, like us,

547
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 1: three men, right, none of us. I've never saw an

548
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: attractive five year old you know, toddler, Never, Never in

549
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: my life, just like, just like as a man, I've

550
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: never seen another man that was sexually attractive. I've never

551
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,479
Speaker 1: seen a five year old toddler sexually attractive. I've never

552
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: seen a man sexually attractive. So if you see somebody

553
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: like that and that person is sexually attractive, I genuinely

554
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: think some people are just wired that way. Snitching is

555
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: fucked up because you're just a piece of ship and

556
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: you're choosing to be unaccountable for your own actions in

557
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: a real form. So, uh, pedophilia, a pedophile, a snitch.

558
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: A snitch is worse than a pedophile, But the act

559
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: of pedophilia is worse than the act of snitching. That

560
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: makes sense. I guess crazy, but you know it's a

561
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: pedophile is working off wired. You know, they wired, you

562
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: know incorrectly, they're wired completely unique. None of us even

563
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: think a five year old child is attractive, So we're

564
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: not refusing some urges. How do you sexually find that attractive?

565
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: Just like in that situation where you know, like we

566
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: talked about it earlier, he was like, well, you'll both said,

567
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: well they wanted to sleep with trans I'm like, I

568
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: doubt that's what's going on now. I know there are

569
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: some situations where that's happening to some people, you know,

570
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: are attracted to that specific lifestyle or whatever is going

571
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: on there. But I don't think that's what's going on

572
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 1: with most men. And I don't think most trans people

573
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: goal is to be the best trans women. They actually

574
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: want to compete into space of just women. Think about it.

575
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: They winning Women of the Year. They're not winning trans

576
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: Women of the Year awards. They're not winning Mrs America,

577
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 1: Mrs trans America. They're winning Mrs America contests. They are

578
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: they are pretty much coming into that space as just women.

579
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: So I would imagine they want to be treated And

580
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: I'll say this as as far as that competition goes,

581
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: trans women are crushing regular women there are on a

582
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,479
Speaker 1: far steeper growth curve if you're looking at the style chart.

583
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: And similarly, women who are transit identified as men are

584
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: doing a terrible job at competing against us real men.

585
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: So I don't know what that says. Yeah, exactly, you know,

586
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: and let me um, I wanted to read something real quick,

587
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: Um did I discovered and I sent it to you

588
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: and glasses prior to start and show the day. Okay,

589
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: A New Jersey trans prisoner who impregnated two inmates transferred

590
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: to men's facility. So they're taking this transgender individual out

591
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: of you know, out of the women's prison and then

592
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: moving to a men's facility because he's gotten two inmates prison.

593
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: So that goes to your theory right there. So a

594
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: transgender inmate has been transferred out the only women's prison

595
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: in New Jersey after impregnating two female inmates. Demi minor

596
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: seven has been moved to the Vulnerable House and Union

597
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: at the Garden State you correct, no facility, a prison

598
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: for young adults ages eighteen and thirty courting the dance

599
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: for rised a New Jersey Department of Correction spokesman the

600
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: Riser firm. There are three trans women housing the Youth

601
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: Facilities Vulnerable Housing unit, though the prisons general population houses

602
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: only men minors. Removal from the Agna Mahan Correctional Facility

603
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: for women comes just a year after the state reached

604
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: the settlement with the American Civil Liberties Young of New

605
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: Jersey to house transgender inmates according to their gender identity

606
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: instead of their sex assigned at birth. The facility currently

607
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: houses twenty seven transgender inmates. Spuraser said decisions related to

608
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: an incarsprated prisons housing are made within the parameters of

609
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: the settlement agreement, which requires consideration of gender identity and

610
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: the health and safety of the individual. So miner who

611
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: is serving a thirty year prison sittings for manslaughter, impregnated

612
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 1: the fellow inmates earlier this year following consensual sex with relationships.

613
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: So now are they considered lesbians because they had they are,

614
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: They're part of the trans ammunity, and Spurazer confirmed. He

615
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: added that even consensual sex between inmates is prohibited in

616
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: the state. Last year, two inmates and add to behind

617
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: father lawsuit challenging the state policy and practice of housing

618
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: some pre gendered confirmation surgery transgender women, adding that violates

619
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: their constitutional rights. So you've got people that want to

620
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 1: come in even before they get the surgery, like right

621
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: when they're pre right. In a letter from Minor, as

622
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: a woman who was transgender, I truly fear what lies

623
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: ahead from me. It's clear that staff have looked for

624
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: some kind of security reason to kicking me out of

625
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 1: the only female correctional facility. Probably that you're they're getting

626
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: everybody pregnant, Mina wrote in the post, which was published Friday.

627
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: They have thrown me to the wolves and expect for

628
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: me to just give up. I am baffled and disgusted

629
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: by the this use of power, and I can only

630
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: ask that the commissioner and government's office please send me back.

631
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: I don't deserve to be treated like this. So he

632
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: want to have his kick and either two he want

633
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: to be in and get all the pussy he can

634
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: under the guys, and him being a woman, so if

635
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: he's like a woman, so he's as gender. I don't

636
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 1: give those are yeah, those are separate, separate points entirely.

637
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: You can you can be transgender. Your your gender identification,

638
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: your sexual preference are not necessarily interestingly tied. My issue

639
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: with this you can take a topic to a woman

640
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: only the sleep with women. That guy, I don't understand it. Man.

641
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: It's it's about how you feel in yourself, not about

642
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: how you feel sexually. It's a different, different thing. Yeah,

643
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 1: Like the the thing that I don't like about that

644
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: is that to a degree, the pian systems is has

645
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: a lot of challenges and and even it's way far

646
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: behind or not, it's it's there are a lot of

647
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: challenges in that arena. You know, there's a lot of

648
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: incentives to make your time easier. So what you have

649
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: with that is you could you left the door open,

650
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: which damages the trans movements integrity where you created a carrot,

651
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: so to speak for or people to fake it to

652
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: get easier time served, like like like on Elizabeth Warren

653
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: faking being Indian to get a promotion at Harvard. You know,

654
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: it damages civil rights in some capacity that you have.

655
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: Or Rachel dolas out you know, you're you're you're faking

656
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: minority status for a payout benefit. But but I don't

657
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: even know if they're faking minority. I'm not saying she is,

658
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: but but there are scenarios where it's pretty obvious. I've

659
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: seen that's pretty obvious. Let's think on this transgender thing.

660
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: Is this right? The other stuff is a whole another

661
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: kind of Warrens right. See, this is my thing right here,

662
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: and I am very confused right now, man, Like now

663
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: they're seeing basically that pre up people that you know

664
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: haven't had this surgery, that are really meant. So what's

665
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: to stop me from if I go out and kill

666
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: somebody and I want to do? Easy time for me

667
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: just putting on the drist and going to court and saying, well,

668
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: I need to go to the in this prison, Well

669
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: that one guy just did that, Yeah, to stop that.

670
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: Now I'm now I'm laid up in there for the

671
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: prison full of women. I'm bigger, I'm stronger than everybody.

672
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: Because just because these people turn, just because these people

673
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 1: elect to change their sex with identity, don't mean the

674
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: fact that they don't lose their strength. I thought you

675
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,959
Speaker 1: would appreciate this based office about how you feel, Based

676
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: on how you feel, yeah, because you like seeing like

677
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: we always talk, you always have more like a respect

678
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: for the emotional standpoint. You think I'm a contrarian because

679
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: I'm like a ax and those guys, and you like

680
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: a feeling. This do a feeling. This is very much

681
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: a physical thing because men are stronger than women. So

682
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: you want to house a bunch of dudes and dresses

683
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: because they have want a dresses that I want to say, see,

684
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: the trans part of you has nothing to do with

685
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: your physical being. It's it's all inside this emotion, how

686
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: you feel, it's internal. So he so so he was

687
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: a man, so when he was born, he feels like,

688
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: I want to sleep with women who you attracted to.

689
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: Don't determine your gender. Yeah, that's just they'll be to

690
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: suggest that people's gender identification is based off of a

691
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: off of their end game goals for sexual intercourse. That's

692
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: not and that's not quite Obviously was get some, but

693
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: was get some kids. I don't know if that was

694
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: the gang goally. He don't got two women pregnant in prison.

695
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: He might have also not gotten the ship beaten out

696
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: of fifteen times like otherwise would have happened. Sure, if

697
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: you put him into regular present with me and getting

698
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: raped and beat up and getting beat up and then

699
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: getting raped because he didn't have to rape nobody, that

700
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: means somebody got him. He probably was in there getting

701
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: paid for. I mean, he got a dick in a

702
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: woman's prison, just like it's pussy in the water. Imagine

703
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: the transgender man inside of a man's presence, like get

704
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: that pussy. He would be of cigarettes. You know what

705
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: many suits is arian entrance fifteen box? Like at that

706
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: show last night. Even if me looking at that show

707
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: last and I was confused, what was the little fat

708
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: dude that they had the haircut? Was that a man

709
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: a woman that was a gentleman by choice? I was

710
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: a transgender man. So if I go out somewhere, let's

711
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: say I'm in a restaurant and one of them stood,

712
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: say you're looking at my girl and swings on me

713
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: and hit me in my chin. No, he's a man,

714
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: he wants to be treated like a man, and I

715
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: put on his ass. Out man, whoop his ass. I'm

716
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: going to jail for whooping on a woman, even though

717
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: he started. Give me first. A stud is not a

718
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: transgender man. It would have to be if a transgender

719
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: mandan yes to a transgender man. If I wo with

720
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: transgender man's ass, I'm going to exelp for beating a woman.

721
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: That's what they say. That would be interesting that would

722
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: come probably down to the to the victim if they

723
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: didn't want to. It just it just depends. You can't

724
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: go to jail for who from a woman on the street?

725
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: What is it? What's the crime except of salt? The

726
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: only thing you could be charging. You didn't get charged

727
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: with a soft of beating up a man just like

728
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: a woman. Woman is different. It's a different charge. What

729
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying. If you just beat up a woman on

730
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: the street, it's just a salt. So the truth is,

731
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: if you beat up a trans man or a trans woman,

732
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: it's not going to be perceived based off of the

733
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be at objective or subjective. It would

734
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 1: be a It would be a hate crime because they

735
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: are trans, not like if you kick out manifesting, what

736
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: direction if you kick that as because they were no

737
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. With this David guy, he

738
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: wounded up getting twenty years. The family thought that sentence

739
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: was way too only got I think he's got more

740
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: time than that because you think it's fair. Well, you

741
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: know the thing, you see, My only thing with that

742
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: guy was he lied. You gotta lie. Well I would

743
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: have told the truth from the beginning. I gotta turn

744
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: to win and turn myself in the I don't even

745
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: want to know about this man. They got head from

746
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: a trance. I don't want nobody to know that if

747
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: that accident, dude wasn't and you know the interesting things

748
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: she couldn't have the priminal record. His family was willing

749
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: to do. They owned the why I got nineteen you know,

750
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 1: nineteen years man, that's you know, Peter, you know, it's funny.

751
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: You know we say something in a long time. That's

752
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: what big you think. It's a long time. That's what's

753
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: such a such a like illogical manifestation of the thought process.

754
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: Like let's say, hypothetically, I could I assume most of

755
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: this public reception and reputation driven. You know, if you

756
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: knew for sure that that's not what you thought was

757
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: gonna be, and you made a mistake and whatever else,

758
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: and no one was ever gonna know about it in

759
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: a hundred years, you probably are gonna act that way.

760
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: It's probably the fact that you don't want everybody you

761
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: know knowing that, which isn't interesting because it's like it

762
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: appears to what kind of person Nikki was. Nikki could

763
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: Nikki didn't say, you know, I watched I watched five

764
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: episodes of that show, and you know, every victim they

765
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: paid them out like they're just this sweet person. That's

766
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: just bullshit. Some some of these motherfucker's just crazy, And

767
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: Nikki could be one of the motherfucker's that didn't mind.

768
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: It's a lot of like me and still talk about this. Now,

769
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: that's not a lot. But there are certain people who

770
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: want to change people, yeah, and they want to be

771
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: treated like on I I still do not believe that

772
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: that man knew that Nikki was a trance. I genuinely

773
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: believe that that's why you react that way. Now, to

774
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: see if they had a relationship where Nikki was like

775
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: I want us to be in a relationship, they went

776
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: through her phone and he was friends. She's like you

777
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 1: need to be what if in the moment, Nicky responds

778
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: poorly and lobs a soft blackmail threat to out him

779
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: out there once you blackmail? Ain't know this thing is soft? Sure? Sure,

780
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: I miss so, Like, if you don't let me stuck

781
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: your digginggain, I'm gonna tell everybody because because because the

782
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: reality was I'm just saying they said he did reach

783
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: in the pants and grabb sausage. I'm I'm just asking

784
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: as as far as a rationale standpoint goes. You know,

785
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: if if that was the case, and you're concerned now

786
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 1: about reputational risk, the reputational risk being that you are alienated,

787
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: I guess it worst you are alienated from your friends

788
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: and family as realts. Okay, is it just me? But

789
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: can you not tell that this is a man? Listen, Peter, Peter,

790
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: do you think this if you saw this individual right here,

791
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: but you think that was a woman, I would say

792
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: the one to the individual things to the left is

793
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: a female. Right here, he looks like a guy that's

794
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: got to makeup on. And Okay, so what if the

795
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: left one to the left is a trans because the

796
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: one to the left is a trans we'll see if

797
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: the one this girl right here is a train. Yeah,

798
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 1: look and you just got it wrong. That's a woman

799
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: right there. That's trans. You're making up stuff. Look now

800
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: you look and look how confused you look. Look at

801
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: you read the title because you don't want to Fox.

802
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: It's not that's that woman. That was a young lady

803
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: dog that's but that's not the man. This is the man.

804
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: I could tell this dude, Toronto Burke Aerial Fox sounds

805
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: like a made up name. Exactly. That sounds like a

806
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: trans pull up Toronto Burke. Anything with Fox in it

807
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: is made up. No one ever has the last name Fox,

808
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: even Rick Fox made up as last name. And this

809
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: might be a dude right here, because look at the

810
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: nick right here, Hold on, look at the nickline. Look

811
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: right here. This is this is this is the giveaway

812
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: right there, giveaway, the giveaway. That's not how that work.

813
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: You got super old school? You can tell you school

814
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: proud man. I don't give a damn I'm tired of

815
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: damn tiptoeing around this bullshit dog. Let's go. You grew up.

816
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: Let's say you. You can tell you grew up in

817
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: the seventies, because all your ship is old school thought.

818
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:37,959
Speaker 1: What what's the what's the other individual's name? Neck? Toronto Burke?

819
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: How you spilling first name? Toronto t A r U

820
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: r K Burke. Who's that? Who's trying to burk? I'm

821
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: just gonna show him something and then bring her up

822
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 1: on the screen. That's that's that's Nike right there. That's

823
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: wanted man. That's not man. This that's a woman. No, no, no, no, no,

824
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: that's that's Buster. Douglas. Now there's say that. You can't

825
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: say that as a white person. You can't say that, man,

826
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: this is a damn that's Toronto Burke. That's not no man.

827
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: That's a woman. But she's ugly as woman. But you

828
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: but see that's my point. You cannot say that, Like,

829
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: it's not about if you don't find somebody visually pleasing.

830
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's getting to a space now

831
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: where pleasing. It don't matter how how visually pleasing to you.

832
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 1: What one Maybe it's like the thing you know, don't

833
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: nobody want the six played with all these little sex games.

834
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 1: People are here playing with people dogs. It ain't cool.

835
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: It's not cool. I'm not saying that. It's just don't know.

836
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what Toronto Burke. But she ugly as

837
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: to Rondo Berger is the reason she's she's the uh,

838
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: she's pretty much the leader of the me Too movie.

839
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: So you know you just got a cook call just man,

840
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: we're finished. So she might be able to jay with

841
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: my ass if she wasn't what she could do high

842
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 1: doesn't one of them crazy and knocked out Mike Tyson

843
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: and Tokyo you don'nderstand k her a k arrest one as. Yeah,

844
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: what did she gon do? She could hid this one

845
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: crazy she got in her face and imprisonments. Stop doing that.

846
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: That's not even cool, right, You just fucked up. You

847
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: really think that grew up in the seventies. Man, that

848
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: was a little baby in the seventies. It was just

849
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 1: broad dog. You just rang. You were never a little baby.

850
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: You were six four the third grade, and I love

851
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: everybody were born at you. Just man, But she's not

852
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: my taste. It might be a motherfucker think beautiful, not

853
00:50:53,520 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: it ain't me ugly, motherfucker dog the heat off of me.

854
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: We can't go no where, you know, it was our contract.

855
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: We got a thing good heels. Need to bring his

856
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: hands back in here. How he's gone. I can't talk

857
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: to him anymore. Yeah, but man, you know the thing

858
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: he was, bro it's not my public used to run

859
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: a burke, But she's not my cup of teacher. May

860
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: not think I'm no prized my dam himself, but she

861
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: told her back though. I would just say that to

862
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: anybody who's like might be the type to get caught

863
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: up in a situation where you end up doing something

864
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: like this guy who got convicted on this crime. If

865
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: you're mad, your life is going to be irrepartably damaged

866
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: by that having happened, or by you haven't been involving that,

867
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 1: either willingly, knowingly, unknowingly or unwillingly. Your life is gonna

868
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: be damaged considerably more by years and years and years

869
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: in prison, like for real. It's an odd constable to

870
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: the truth, man, And I don't really believe. Man, I'm

871
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 1: no God, That's the road I would probably take due

872
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: firsts me going in hip, was you killed somebody? You

873
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: going exail? If you beat the ship on somebody and

874
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: get an escalation, you're gonna get god damn near murder

875
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: years about five years. I am secured enough of first

876
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: of all, I'm glad, thank god, I'm happily married though,

877
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: but I am secured enough of my sexuality though. Where

878
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: for motherfucker played with me like that, I would I

879
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: would go to court and I would make a motherfucking

880
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: stand and say that this motherfucker raped me. Let me

881
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 1: ask you a question hypothetically, and this is ultra hypothetical, obviously,

882
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: it's based on the question if you got caught up

883
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: and messed around and had some like undercover boyfriend for

884
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: like the summer and it got found out about it.

885
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: Just just just just just under have a boyfriends doing

886
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: something willingly. Yeah, just just just just let me finish.

887
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,959
Speaker 1: If you hypothetically had that going on and you really

888
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: didn't want anybody to find out about it, and let's

889
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: say hypothetically that it just all blows up. The guy

890
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: just shows up right at the front door and just

891
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: airs you out all over the internet and television and

892
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: everywhere else. Taken because I was sneaking around doing something

893
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: like that. Cut. Yeah, all I'm going to ask is

894
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 1: how long is the damage of that going to last

895
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: in your life versus how long versus fifteen years that

896
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: that will die down in six months to a year,

897
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: whereas the trouble you get in for doing something to

898
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: prevent it from happening will outlast that exponentially. Yeah. See, Now,

899
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: I think all those guys Peter that do things and

900
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: they're feeling some little secret finish that they may have

901
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 1: within them, and they are fulfiling their fantasy. They don't

902
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: get caught. They damned should don't need to be putting

903
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: their hands on nobody. They need to just live with it,

904
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: because it's a choice. They made. Now the guy that

905
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: that had no clue on the situation he was stepping in.

906
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: I truly believe that individuals should be charged with rape

907
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: and they should go to jail just like a man would.

908
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: Because you're getting with somebody under the under a false pretense.

909
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: You're not telling somebody the whole facts, you know what

910
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that's almost you know, just like that you

911
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: said they um, they resended the law about someone with

912
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: whose HIV positive sleeping with somebody that should be murdered. Dude,

913
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 1: that should be attempted murder. You should go to jail. Yeah,

914
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: all cases, I think you should go to jail, man,

915
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: because I think I think right now, man, we're really

916
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: in a dangerous time. Man, and where really anything that

917
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: you say, even if you have an opinion like me,

918
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: I just said the woman was ugly, they can come

919
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: back and st say I've committed hate crime. I don't

920
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: have nothing against one of my and I don't want

921
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: to mean the sound cliche, but I have a friend

922
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: in right now. It's one of my best friends, and

923
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: I love her unconditionally. Dog. She's a lesbian. One of

924
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: my best friends, that lesbian female dog. I don't care

925
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 1: about people's sex with preference. I just think, um, when

926
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: you get the imposement your will on people, whether that's

927
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: a man imposing this wheel or a woman or transgender

928
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 1: person imposed their will under some kind of false pretense

929
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: on another individual, I think it's the same ship. Though.

930
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: I think you need to be punishment for that, and

931
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: I don't think that punishment is necessarily putting your hands

932
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: on the motherfucker. We gotta start doing stuff the right way, bro,

933
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: We gotta start really doing stuff the right way. And

934
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: somebody going to police say, hey, this individual right here,

935
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 1: this is the story. She came to me and had

936
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: me under the assumption that I was messing with a woman,

937
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: and really it was a transcendent person. It could ruin

938
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: my reputation, It can ruin my life. You know. That

939
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: can really funk somebody up. Bro. Yeah, no, it absolutely could.

940
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: And at the same time, it's not a situation of

941
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: war to me an immediate violent response, because you can

942
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: stop a situation from going any further as a grown

943
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: man just by stopping and leaving. You know, you're free

944
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 1: to do that. So yeah, it's yeah, yeah, it's wrong

945
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: for the perpetrator, but it's it's not the same cup

946
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: of tea is like a male female rape scenario where

947
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: the woman might need to shoot the guy to get

948
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: him stopped. That's the thing, you know, you make decisions.

949
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: It's just like, um, it's the same discussion we had, man,

950
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: where somebody was asking me, because I think we all

951
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: got those key words like if a person invited me

952
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: to they dick, if they called me a bit, if

953
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 1: they called me out my name, we go at the squad.

954
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: But if I'm with my wife and I'm with my

955
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: children around, I don't know how bad things can get.

956
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk away from it because at the end

957
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: of the day, who gives a fun as long as

958
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: he can put his hands on you, feel what I mean,

959
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: as long as you don't put your hands on me,

960
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: it's like it's whatever, because we can got like we

961
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: gotta get out of the silly it. We gotta get

962
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: out the silly ship right now. And I think that

963
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: we're in a real bad place in America right now,

964
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: because it's almost like, man, it's getting to the point

965
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: to where I think eventually they're just gonna be the

966
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: seeing everything is a crime. It's getting dead to that point,

967
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: and even with some of the stuff. And I don't

968
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: get me wrong, the policeman have done some hainous acts, man,

969
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: They've committed some hainous acts against the black community. No

970
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: one is the shuting that we all see that everything.

971
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: But I've seen these times, man, where a brother get

972
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: pulled over and he's acting the food. The police are

973
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: being cool, the brothers compative right off rip not letting

974
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: his windows down, not not turning this car off, just

975
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: making the policeman. Hell, are uncomfortable because if I'm a policeman, dude,

976
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: it's already stressful enough. You don't know if a motherfucker's

977
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: on his third strike and not. You don't know if

978
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: this dude got a big as hammer waiting on his

979
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: lap when you come over there to give him a ticket.

980
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: You don't know what's seituation you're walking into. So that

981
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: makes a person even more nervous. You think about the

982
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: cops of human being just like you know, there's a

983
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: normal person like we are. So you're in this situation

984
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: now to where you don't you're dealing with this dude

985
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: and you don't know what he's willing to do to

986
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: get We're walking up to the unknown like they can

987
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: see you walk up to the car, you can't really

988
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: see what's in the car. Tell you you have no

989
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: clue If this dude ain't got a big ask four

990
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: or five on this lapt wing to send your ass

991
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: to the next to mintion, you just don't know. There's

992
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: a lot of problems. So it's just a lot of

993
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: ship going on. But I appreciate. I think a big

994
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: issue in the country is sentencing for stupid ship is forever.

995
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: Like I honestly am. I would be more comfortable getting

996
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: into a fight somewhere with a dude that I know

997
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: is a for real just like for real gang banger

998
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: who's probably gonna beat my ass and just haking that,

999
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: then going to like the bar around the corner on

1000
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: the beach, on the border walking for louddon and then

1001
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: beating the dog ship out of like nerdy white guy whatever.

1002
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: Because I would rather deal with getting my ass beat

1003
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: than beat the shift out of somebody and catch thirty

1004
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: six months for it, you know what I'm saying. Like

1005
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm more concerned with winning than losing. Yeah, for real.

1006
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: So man, the glasses came back in the room. Now

1007
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: he ran away from me because the glasses are scared

1008
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: of that to runt a burke lady, You ain't scared

1009
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: of I'm terrified, you know, because I didn't say nothing more.

1010
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: I didn't say nothing wrong. Man, I don't have to

1011
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: find her attractive. I don't have to find her attractive. Man. Yeah,

1012
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: that's true. You did drop some bars though that We're

1013
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: pretty decent. Well, man, we will go ahead and shift

1014
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: this down. Man. We appreciate you guys checking in with

1015
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: us again. Make sure you like leave for comment rate

1016
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: the show. Tell me to kiss your ass whatever it

1017
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: is you go do. Um and glasses? Were you scared? Man? What?

1018
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: Why is you running because you're talking about that sister

1019
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: like that? Man? I mean you don't have nothing to

1020
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: do with her. I love was that that burke lady

1021
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: had had cut her hair? Yeah, I'm sorry, that's that's

1022
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: it's glasses after all. Actually she looked like, kay, boy,

1023
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: I'm not working with y'all. Y'all got going on. I

1024
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: don't want no parts not being so scary. Man. We

1025
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: didn't say nothing. That's the problem with America. Man. We

1026
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: even't see nothing you gotta do. I'm a crip and

1027
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: I've literally been opening up to say I'm tracking folk.

1028
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: It's not about fear. I just don't want no smoke

1029
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: with that lady because that lady ended our Kelly career.

1030
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: She I'm not a killy. You haven't done enohing room.

1031
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: You just said she was a man. I just mean

1032
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: I said she was little. Know you said she was

1033
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: a man first, then you went on to say how

1034
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: ugly she was. You can re want to hear what

1035
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: I see it, I see it. I don't know where

1036
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: she was. We were talking about transgender people and you

1037
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: asked me to go there. At the point I was

1038
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: making was it's like, it's hard to just say what

1039
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: someone looks like. Like. Yes, in theory, we would like

1040
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: to believe if we saw a trans woman, we would

1041
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: all be able to identify. The reality is now that

1042
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: women are literally following the beauty standards of trans community,

1043
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: of the trans community, it's harder to tell. And I'm

1044
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: saying I could show you women right that will you

1045
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: will question are they women? And I can show you

1046
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: some trans women that you might confused as women. Well.

1047
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: That concludes another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast. Be

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01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,960
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1052
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,880
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Speaker 1: Chronicles is a production of I Heart Media Network and

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Speaker 1: The Black Effect Podcast Network. For more podcasts from my

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Speaker 1: heart Radio, visit the i Heart Radio app, Apple podcast

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Speaker 1: Wherever you're listening to your podcasts,