WEBVTT - Night 1 Rewind: Ben Higgins 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:04.360 Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour. I'm Joe 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.120 and I'm Serena, and today we are going to be 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:11.000 breaking down the one and only mister Ben Higgins night 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:14.120 one because next week we're going to have Ben on 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:18.360 and he's got maybe one of the more iconic seasons 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:21.319 of the Bachelor. I feel like when I heard about 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:26.040 the Bachelor, it was Ben Higgins. So should we get 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:26.440 into it? 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:27.720 Yeah, let's do it all right? 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:31.920 If you listened when we have Pilot Pede on, we 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:35.160 did the same thing. We are having some former leads 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:38.360 come on Happy Hour and kind of just talk about 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:40.960 like their first episode and catch up on what they 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:45.480 got going on. Now we're friends with Ben, so he's 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:49.519 the perfect person and it'll just be easy. So what 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:53.159 did you think on his limo entrances? 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:56.480 This is so crazy because we watched it separately, so like, 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:58.880 I actually don't know what you're gonna say about. 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:00.400 It all, and I will I will say, like I 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:06.560 have an idea, Like, obviously Jojo Fletcher becomes the Bachelorette, 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:09.479 so you know she does well, but I don't know. 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:13.679 I actually don't know who Bend's top four were from. 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:16.360 Oh you don't know? Okay, I went and looked it up. 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:18.440 I mean, I did watch the season when it came out, 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:19.720 but I couldn't remember. 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:24.119 But I haven't. I like who like the strong women 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.600 out of the Limo, like the strong Limo entrances. I 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:28.000 would have to say. 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:29.640 That. 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:33.679 Olivia, Yep, she was very confident, and then she ends 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:40.600 up getting his first impression Rose yep. Uh, what's her name? Kayla? 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:41.760 Kayla? 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:43.679 Yet? Kayla? Was that was a good one. 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:45.319 He ran and like jumped in his arm. 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:46.559 Yeah. Is she at top four? 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:47.680 Do you want me to tell you? 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:47.800 No? 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:52.120 Okay, let's see if I get this Jojo Fletcher. 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:54.400 Yep, so JoJo's entrance. 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:58.080 Do we want to talk about any of the packages 0:01:58.120 --> 0:01:58.640 in the beginner? 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:00.400 Has chat with the boys or anything? Are we getting 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:01.800 to these Limo entrances. 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:04.440 We could? 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:06.400 Damn? I feel like I've ruined the flow. 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.200 Now you didn't ruin the flow. We'll go back. We'll 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:11.000 talk about let me just guess my top four first. 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:14.520 Okay, okay, playing a game Olivia? Yeah, Kayla? 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:15.040 Yeah? 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:15.520 Okay? 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:19.480 Jojo Fletcher, I thought she was very confident like she 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:22.040 came out. I was not. I was shocked that she 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:25.400 she came out with like a cat mask or whatever. 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:36.000 She yeah, and then I would say, I don't know 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:38.040 if there was another limo entrance that really stood out 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:39.760 for me. I mean, I like the twins, but we've 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:43.280 I've had them on the podcast. I think they're just great. 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:46.320 Over overall, there. 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:50.280 Were I was I will say the limo entrances having 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.600 just watched Peter season and now like season episode one 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:57.440 and Ben's episode one, the limo entrances on Peter season 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:01.480 were stronger, like much stronger. There was a couple, there's 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.000 a couple of weird ones on Ben's season. I think 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:07.000 the standouts came more like after the limos in the house. 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:11.280 But even then, like I feel like you saw a 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:14.720 lot of me. I don't know, like the women in 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:17.919 Pete season, for some reason just were more memorable throughout. 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:19.760 But I think that they also like really spread the 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:22.400 love of like showing different people talking to him and 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:24.760 coming out of the limo and packages, Whereas with this, 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:28.600 I would say the entire episode revolves around like lace. 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:31.760 I'm gonna say, Amanda Stanton. 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:34.800 Oh, that's you definitely know no, because. 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:38.280 Obviously I'm rung. Obviously he chooses Lauren b and she 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:40.280 i don't. I don't choose her time, wouldn't. 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:42.160 Yeah, okay, so you would have picked if you were 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:47.200 watching Night one, you would have gone Kayla, Amanda, Jojo, 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:48.520 and Olivia. 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:51.640 Yeah, okay, so his top four are. 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:54.920 Shoot, I'm trying to make sure I'm right on this. 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:59.120 It's Kayla, Amanda, Jojo, and Lauren. Okay, So Olivia is 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.800 not in his top four. I believe she has like 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:05.800 a dramatic exit in the season. I think she kind 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:11.200 of becomes this like she gets this really like cringey 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:15.800 storyline where she's just kind of constantly being like awkward 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:20.080 and the girls don't really like her and she just 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:22.120 doesn't look great, and I think she ends up going 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:25.400 home like middle of the season. I think she's like 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.200 way more, ends up way more into him than he 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:29.760 isn't to her. Like it's just like a downwards boto 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:33.280 for Olivia from Night one with the first impression Rose, 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:36.440 but like I don't know, she had an interesting story, 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:39.120 like she is like looks so great night one, she 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.120 is like so beautiful and stuff, but I just she 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:42.000 just didn't connect. 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:44.400 Yeah, Like if I was watching this today, like if 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:46.799 this was the new season, I would be like that girls, 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:48.080 this stuff is probably gonna win. 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:50.400 Yeah, I think. I think that's probably how a lot 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:51.440 of people felt when it came out. 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:56.200 Yeah, okay, so let's let's cut to the very beginning 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.880 of the episode where we see, you know, we get 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:02.000 this all American back shooting. 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:06.880 Indiana from Indiana. He's driving around his hometown. He's twenty six, 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.320 which I which is young for the bachelor. 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:11.160 It's very young. That's the first question I'm going to 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.719 ask him, because the truth is he I think he 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:17.920 was the first like young bachelor, Like that was a thing. 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:22.839 Hannah Brown I think was twenty. 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.159 Five when she was the bachelorette. 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.039 Yeah about women mature. 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.799 She was also young. She was one of the younger 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:31.880 ones too. I feel like all the bachelors are usually 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:32.679 twenty eight plus. 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:33.320 Twell, I haven't. 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:37.120 Well, I think Colton was twenty. 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:40.320 Seven, twenty seven, okay, yeah, but. 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:43.039 But Ben was the first because then we see like, oh, actually, 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.200 I don't know how old Sean Lowe was because he 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.680 was probably pretty young too. Maybe he was the first 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.080 young one. But anyways, at the beginning of the episode, 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:57.159 we see Sean Lowe, Chris Soles. 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.000 And Jason Mesnick. 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:02.839 Jason Mesnick have like the sky chat that like lasted 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:03.120 a long. 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.000 It goes up for like many minutes. 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:09.320 It's one of the longest group chats I've seen in 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:12.039 an intro, like it's just going. But honestly, at that time, 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:16.440 those were like three of the biggest leads from the franchise. 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:21.840 Chris Sols Chrystal's advice was to just kiss kiss them all. Yeah, Chris, 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:24.080 good advice. 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:28.400 Chris, Yeah, Christal's give the advice kiss all the girls. 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:31.640 Sean Lowe and Jason Messick are obviously at the time 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:34.080 and still are to this day with the women that 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:37.720 they chose, so you know they are like. 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:41.800 That's actually impressive, I know, right, because uh, how many 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.200 kids they Him and Catherine have like three kids? 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:45.640 Yeah, like three beautiful kids. 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.320 I've never had them on the podcast. We could see 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:49.919 if they could come on the podcast. 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:52.159 Yeah, let us knows. You guys want us to reach 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:54.000 out to Sean and Catherine. I'd love to have them 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:54.640 on the podcast. 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:58.600 But there I feel like great pillars of like, hey, 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.600 we're pillars of hope, like we did this, you. 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:02.279 Can do it too. 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:05.160 I also think a lot of people had hope for 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:08.920 Ben to like be another major success story because he is, yeah, 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:12.400 this like all American boy. He doesn't know if he 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.120 deserves love or if he's gonna find it, but he 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.239 really wants it. And he did give off this vibe 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:19.920 of like I'm serious and I'm ready to settle down. 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:24.960 He was honestly, he was like like the first time 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.160 I kind of knew, Like when I heard people talking 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:30.360 about like the Bachelor, like girls that were like my age, 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:34.120 it was it was like Ben, like this guy, Ben Higgins. 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:38.160 So like his season. I think Ben's season was probably 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:42.880 like the biggest. Maybe it was I remember like really 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.239 just like word of mouth, like hearing about like people 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:46.560 talking about it all over them. 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.960 I mean Ben came off of Caitlin Bristow season of 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.120 The Batch Tray, which was also a very big season. 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:56.360 But we've got the intro package All American Boy chats 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.480 with the boys, and then we get into the packages 0:07:58.680 --> 0:07:59.280 with the women. 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:02.200 Those also lasted pretty long. 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:03.880 Yeah, they last a long time too. 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.880 I feel like we've we've cut down on those, Yeah, 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:11.400 comparing to like Pete's episode one at least, Yeah, I 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:12.200 will sit Ben. 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.760 I noticed when the women we were getting out of 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.040 the limos, like the like The first girl we saw 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:21.080 was Lauren, who he ends up choosing. Yeah, but like 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:24.120 you see he he comes she looks. 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:27.320 So young too, but but no, yeah, they all do. 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:28.800 I mean this was like twenty sixteen. 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:34.760 But he comes across really nervous, and as the limo 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:39.400 entrances go on, you see him shad that and really 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.960 relax and he's like really becoming his own And I 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:45.480 think that, I don't know, I just relate to that 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.440 because that's how I feel like I would have been too, 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:49.760 like a nervous rest. That's how you were, Yeah, nervous 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:51.319 ark at the beginning, and then you kind of liked 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:53.760 and then you like, you see his personality. I think 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:58.880 they did a good job of Night one showing off 0:08:58.920 --> 0:08:59.800 Ben's personality. 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:04.360 I think so too, Yeah, which sometimes I find can 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:06.760 probably be hard for the lead because they are trying 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:08.600 to have you get to know all these different women 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:11.839 with all these big personalities. But Ben, having met him 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:13.319 now a few times in person, and I mean, you 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:15.199 know him better than me, but he does have like 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:16.760 quite a vibrant personality. 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:18.440 Yeah, So, like it's not hard. 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:21.240 If you check out my Instagram post and you scroll 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.880 like three slides, you will see Ben dancing. 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:28.400 Ben is a dance for maniac think I've never seen before. 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:32.640 Oh my god, He's tearing up at Nick's wedding. It 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:39.600 was so funny. 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.920 But yeah, limo entrances that stood out to me obviously, 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:47.600 like Lauren was first of the limo. Kayla was good, 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:51.120 but yeah, there was some there was some rough intros. 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.680 There was I would say there was more rough than 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:58.560 solid little entrances, yeah, which I didn't feel for Pizza's 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.520 And I remember thinking, like, Pizza's a lot of really 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:03.239 good limo entrances, Jojo, but also. 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.480 Just just to stop you there, it's also just like 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.640 it's because it's been around for so long and now 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:11.800 so people that go on the show really do watch. 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:13.960 And I feel like back when it was like Ben's season, 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:16.120 a lot of people probably did go on the show 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:20.120 and really like didn't know like kind. 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:23.400 But I feel like the gimmicky entrances used to be 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.160 more of a thing back in the day, Like there 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:27.160 was a lot of really gimmicky ones, like do you 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.200 think Jojo Fletcher's coming out of the limo with a 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.440 unicorn helmet on today? 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:32.120 Yeah? 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:35.040 Like no, like when she I actually was shocked, I 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.720 was like, I can't believe that was her entrance because 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.440 it was kind of cringey. But at the same time, 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.960 she's so beautiful and she's so confident that she is 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:43.360 like one. 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:44.800 Of the only people that could make that cool. 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:46.840 Like I would not make that cool if I had 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:50.240 to wear a massive unicorn mask over my head. 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:51.480 Can make it cool? 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:55.199 You think, Yeah, thanks Joey of honor that you think 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.160 that I could make that cool. But she did a 0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:00.120 great job because she was like just really calm, but 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:01.600 in I feel like she was one of the people 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:02.439 that really stood out. 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:03.920 Yeah, I agree. 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.840 And then the Twins, I think the Twins is maybe 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:10.559 one of the first times they've had twins twins if 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:13.120 the only time they've had twins on potentially. 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:16.440 Maybe they're but meeting them and having them on the podcast, 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.120 they are so personable. 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:18.959 They're so fun. Yeah. 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:22.280 I listened to your podcast with them when they had 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.600 they were on Clickbait, and I thought they were great. 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:25.400 They're both married with. 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:29.080 Kids now yea too, But I remember when they came 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:32.160 on because they were on Clickbait with you, right, yeah, 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:36.599 I remember them saying, like we just we were just 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:38.920 there to have fun, like truly, like did we think 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:40.480 we were going to engage to Ben at the end 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:42.559 of it, Like, no, we didn't. Like we were twenty 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:46.680 two years old, we're young, we're twins. Were like yeah, 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:48.840 like maybe this is our doom. But they were like, 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:50.760 We're just there to have a good time. And I 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.520 feel like that show, but like in a good way, 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.280 Like all their interviews are so funny. Yeah, they're so 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:59.760 bubbling charismatic, like they they were a good cast for. 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:07.120 And then I think Lace is kind of the woman 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:10.920 that's spiraling night one also like starting a lot of 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:18.360 ship like potential, villain potential, just like sporadic crazy decisions. 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:19.760 She's the wild card. 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.240 I mean, it makes sense. I never I didn't. I 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:27.320 didn't watch Bend season, but I watched Lace on Paradise. 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:30.120 Remember when she went on Paradise and she like said 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:34.440 it was her birthday and it wasn't was her twice? Yeah, 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.880 but I'm talking about I watched her when the last 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:38.199 time she was on, which was like. 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.880 Whoa, I actually totally forgot that she's been on it. 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:45.680 Yeah recent times, like very recently. She was on the 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:46.400 last season. 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:48.520 Yeah, that wasn't the last season. 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.959 The season prior the season prior. Okay, yeah yeah, and 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:53.800 she was going around telling everyone it was her birthday. 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:54.120 Yeah. 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:58.040 Wow, She's still got like a kooky personality in the beast. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.840 I was like, oh, this makes sense, and this makes 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:04.640 total sense why they brought her back. 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.120 Lace is the star of this first episode, aside from 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.839 Ben Like, Lace is getting so much screen time. 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:11.280 She's doing some crazy stuff. 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:14.760 Her entrance is like, I feel like someone does this 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:16.680 every season and I want to hear what your thoughts 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.000 are on it. But she walks to the limo, tells 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:20.960 him to close his eyes, gives him a kiss, and 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:22.360 it's like I wanted to be the first kiss of 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:22.720 the night. 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:25.760 That would I wouldn't love that. 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:29.080 If I'm the lead, I'd probably be like please, like 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:32.000 please don't do that, Like please don't tell me to 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.360 close my eyes and kiss me, Like I please don't 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:34.560 do that. 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:37.640 Think I mean, yeah, it's kind of like. 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:38.720 Like a cheap kiss cue. 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.280 But I think I, like, did not consent for you 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:42.400 to just kiss me on the mouth. 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.320 Yeah, No, it's kind of creepy. Think it is like 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.800 if I if like you were the bachelorette and I 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:50.000 was like and I just met you, and I was 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:51.760 like close your eyes and I went in for a kiss. 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:53.640 I think it would be a big I like, what. 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:55.440 Do you think you're doing? Yeah, I literally what do 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:56.160 you think you're doing? 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:58.880 It would be a big problem if you like. 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:01.520 Kiss me on the cheek or hand, like oh so sweet. 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:03.840 But it's also like Dobbler Dahmer theory. 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:04.560 Do you know what that is? 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:09.200 Where like someone can do something that's in that gray 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:13.640 zone and if he was really into her, it's okay, 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:17.679 it's cute, romantic and sweet, but if he's not into her, 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:19.360 it's like creepy and weird. 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:25.080 Yeah, okay, I think that's yeah, that sounds about right. Yeah, 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:28.400 but she yeah, I mean, yeah, she is kind of 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:32.080 the star. Beckatilly comes back Beca and Amber. Yeah, I know, 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:37.520 I don't know. Becatilly was a back to back season girl. 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:40.040 Yeah, I forgot that she did two seasons in a row. 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:44.000 So Beckatilly was runner up on Crystals the season. I 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:47.160 think she like kind of sort of sent herself home, okay, 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:51.160 and then she came back. 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:54.240 It makes sense because there's no world where Beccatilly is. 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:58.120 And Crystals work out. Yeah, no world, no world in 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:02.040 which that happens. But also like crystals of such a 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.920 unique lifestyle, Like whoever he's ending up with really has 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:07.880 to be comfortable living on a farm in the middle 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:11.080 of Iowa. Yeah, so I can't really I mean, Becketilly 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:14.360 lives in Californias, she's in la I can't really picture 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:16.280 her like on a farm for the rest of her life. 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:20.840 But anyway, so when she comes back and does Ben's season, 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:24.160 now a lot of I don't even know if you 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.840 would notice this, but a lot of short dresses Becu 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.600 till he was wearing a black mini, but Amanda Stanton 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:31.000 was wearing a short dress. There was like quite a 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.640 few girls with like short, little body con dresses which 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:35.960 looked great, but like you would just never see that now, 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.200 like it's it's all gowns. 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:40.840 Yeah, see, I don't I don't notice that. 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:42.920 I know, I know, but it's interesting for me to 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.080 like see how the fashion has changed so much, Like 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:48.960 Jojo wore short dress. Like I don't think one girl 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:50.880 on my season war short dress. 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.160 Really see, I would feel like that's what most girls 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.360 would wear. I feel like a long dress is almost 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:55.960 too formal. 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:57.280 It's a formal night. 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:01.240 Yeah, you know, I guess if there's one night I 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.560 feel like that, like, you don't wear short dress nowadays. 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:04.880 It's night one on the Bachelor. 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:11.080 Okay, it's too horrible. Joe always thinks everything's too horrible. Casual, 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:16.200 you do like casual. But anyway, back it, Tilly and 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:20.120 Amber show up. Amber, who we have also met in Chicago. 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:21.520 Whose season was she on? 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:26.120 Originally maybe Chris Soles as well? Okay, but because but 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.320 Chris Soles and Ben were That's why I always get 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:32.160 confused how this went down, because Chris Soles and Ben 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:33.440 were on the same season. 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:37.480 They were both on Kaitlyn's season. Yeah, and then are 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:37.880 you sure? 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:38.600 Yeah? 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:40.080 And then Chris became the Bachelor. 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:41.000 Yeah? 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:45.160 And then who became the bachelorette from Chris Soles this season? 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:50.920 Oh wait no, maybe I am wrong? Yeah, because maybe 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.320 Caitlin becomes the bachelorette. 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:56.000 I think Andy Dorfman season. 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:56.560 You're right? 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:02.240 Yeah, right, Okay, really study up, buddy, You're right. 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:06.240 So it was so it was Andy, Chrys Soles. 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:11.240 Katelynn Yeah, and then Becca was from Crystals this season. 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:16.720 Amber was from Crystals this season potentially, but I believe 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:19.159 she went home early on because you could tell a 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:24.160 lot of the girls knew who Becca was, but weren't 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:25.359 certain who Amber was. 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:29.440 And then what else anything else big happened in this episode. 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:33.959 I mean, Olivia gets the first impression Rose. Yeah, so 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:38.000 to find out like, yeah, she I guess she doesn't 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.680 even make it, doesn't even make top four. I would 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:42.800 say that that was pretty rare. 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:44.560 Right, Yeah, I feel like that happens more on the 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:45.919 Boucher than the baucher Arette. 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:48.760 But it's it's always interesting. 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:52.080 I feel like the first impression Rose winner always either 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:55.920 goes like halfway middle of the pack and then kind 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:58.080 of like fizzles out or like makes it far. I 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.000 feel like it's not as common for them to almost 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:02.480 have like a villain storyline. 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.680 Yeah, she really isn't giving villain night one either. 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:09.040 No, but she is. She's very well that's the thing 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:19.159 usually when you are very confident, that ends up upsetting someone. Yeah, 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:21.320 and if it upsets a pack. 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.920 Yeah, I think she's friends with Ashley. I I could 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:28.000 be wrong about that. Maybe I think her nash are friends, 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.440 but yeah, I mean Lace is really the start of 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:33.720 the show. She's doing a lot of funny itms talking 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:34.720 shit about people. 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:38.320 Like if I'm watching, I'm like, okay, I can't wait 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.399 to see what Lace does actually say, right, same, I 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:43.200 can't say yeah, well. 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:44.840 Yeah, because Lace's train of events. 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:48.399 She comes out the limage, kisses Ben, then she's freaking 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:50.680 out about talking to him. She finally talks to him 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:54.640 and she's like, hey, let's make out some more, and 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:58.080 Ben like nicely rejects her. 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:00.200 It's basically like, look, I want to spend this. I'm 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:00.800 getting to know you. 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:02.720