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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour. I'm Joe

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Speaker 1: and I'm Serena, and today we are going to be

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Speaker 1: breaking down the one and only mister Ben Higgins night

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Speaker 1: one because next week we're going to have Ben on

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Speaker 1: and he's got maybe one of the more iconic seasons

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Speaker 1: of the Bachelor. I feel like when I heard about

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Speaker 1: the Bachelor, it was Ben Higgins. So should we get

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Speaker 1: into it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it all right?

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Speaker 1: If you listened when we have Pilot Pede on, we

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Speaker 1: did the same thing. We are having some former leads

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Speaker 1: come on Happy Hour and kind of just talk about

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Speaker 1: like their first episode and catch up on what they

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Speaker 1: got going on. Now we're friends with Ben, so he's

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Speaker 1: the perfect person and it'll just be easy. So what

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Speaker 1: did you think on his limo entrances?

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Speaker 3: This is so crazy because we watched it separately, so like,

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Speaker 3: I actually don't know what you're gonna say about.

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Speaker 1: It all, and I will I will say, like I

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Speaker 1: have an idea, Like, obviously Jojo Fletcher becomes the Bachelorette,

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Speaker 1: so you know she does well, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I actually don't know who Bend's top four were from.

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Speaker 2: Oh you don't know? Okay, I went and looked it up.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I did watch the season when it came out,

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Speaker 3: but I couldn't remember.

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Speaker 1: But I haven't. I like who like the strong women

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Speaker 1: out of the Limo, like the strong Limo entrances. I

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Speaker 1: would have to say.

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Speaker 2: That.

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Speaker 1: Olivia, Yep, she was very confident, and then she ends

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Speaker 1: up getting his first impression Rose yep. Uh, what's her name? Kayla?

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Speaker 2: Kayla?

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Speaker 1: Yet? Kayla? Was that was a good one.

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Speaker 2: He ran and like jumped in his arm.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Is she at top four?

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Speaker 2: Do you want me to tell you?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's see if I get this Jojo Fletcher.

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Speaker 2: Yep, so JoJo's entrance.

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Speaker 3: Do we want to talk about any of the packages

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Speaker 3: in the beginner?

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Speaker 2: Has chat with the boys or anything? Are we getting

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Speaker 2: to these Limo entrances.

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Speaker 1: We could?

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Speaker 2: Damn? I feel like I've ruined the flow.

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Speaker 1: Now you didn't ruin the flow. We'll go back. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk about let me just guess my top four first.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, playing a game Olivia? Yeah, Kayla?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Jojo Fletcher, I thought she was very confident like she

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Speaker 1: came out. I was not. I was shocked that she

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Speaker 1: she came out with like a cat mask or whatever.

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Speaker 1: She yeah, and then I would say, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if there was another limo entrance that really stood out

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Speaker 1: for me. I mean, I like the twins, but we've

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Speaker 1: I've had them on the podcast. I think they're just great.

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Speaker 1: Over overall, there.

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Speaker 3: Were I was I will say the limo entrances having

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Speaker 3: just watched Peter season and now like season episode one

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Speaker 3: and Ben's episode one, the limo entrances on Peter season

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Speaker 3: were stronger, like much stronger. There was a couple, there's

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Speaker 3: a couple of weird ones on Ben's season. I think

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Speaker 3: the standouts came more like after the limos in the house.

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Speaker 3: But even then, like I feel like you saw a

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Speaker 3: lot of me. I don't know, like the women in

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Speaker 3: Pete season, for some reason just were more memorable throughout.

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Speaker 3: But I think that they also like really spread the

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Speaker 3: love of like showing different people talking to him and

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Speaker 3: coming out of the limo and packages, Whereas with this,

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Speaker 3: I would say the entire episode revolves around like lace.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, Amanda Stanton.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's you definitely know no, because.

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Speaker 1: Obviously I'm rung. Obviously he chooses Lauren b and she

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Speaker 1: i don't. I don't choose her time, wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so you would have picked if you were

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Speaker 3: watching Night one, you would have gone Kayla, Amanda, Jojo,

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Speaker 3: and Olivia.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so his top four are.

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Speaker 3: Shoot, I'm trying to make sure I'm right on this.

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Speaker 3: It's Kayla, Amanda, Jojo, and Lauren. Okay, So Olivia is

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Speaker 3: not in his top four. I believe she has like

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Speaker 3: a dramatic exit in the season. I think she kind

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Speaker 3: of becomes this like she gets this really like cringey

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Speaker 3: storyline where she's just kind of constantly being like awkward

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Speaker 3: isn't to her. Like it's just like a downwards boto

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Speaker 3: for Olivia from Night one with the first impression Rose,

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Speaker 3: but like I don't know, she had an interesting story,

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Speaker 3: like she is like looks so great night one, she

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like if I was watching this today, like if

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Speaker 1: this was the new season, I would be like that girls,

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Speaker 1: this stuff is probably gonna win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think. I think that's probably how a lot

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Speaker 3: of people felt when it came out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so let's let's cut to the very beginning

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Speaker 1: of the episode where we see, you know, we get

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Speaker 1: this all American back shooting.

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Speaker 3: Indiana from Indiana. He's driving around his hometown. He's twenty six,

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Speaker 3: which I which is young for the bachelor.

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Speaker 1: It's very young. That's the first question I'm going to

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Speaker 1: ask him, because the truth is he I think he

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Speaker 1: was the first like young bachelor, Like that was a thing.

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Speaker 3: Hannah Brown I think was twenty.

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Speaker 2: Five when she was the bachelorette.

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Speaker 1: Yeah about women mature.

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Speaker 3: She was also young. She was one of the younger

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Speaker 3: ones too. I feel like all the bachelors are usually

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Speaker 3: twenty eight plus.

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Speaker 2: Twell, I haven't.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think Colton was twenty.

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Speaker 2: Seven, twenty seven, okay, yeah, but.

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Speaker 1: But Ben was the first because then we see like, oh, actually,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how old Sean Lowe was because he

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Speaker 1: was probably pretty young too. Maybe he was the first

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Speaker 1: young one. But anyways, at the beginning of the episode,

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Speaker 1: we see Sean Lowe, Chris Soles.

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Speaker 2: And Jason Mesnick.

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Speaker 1: Jason Mesnick have like the sky chat that like lasted

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Speaker 1: a long.

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Speaker 2: It goes up for like many minutes.

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Speaker 3: It's one of the longest group chats I've seen in

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Speaker 3: an intro, like it's just going. But honestly, at that time,

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Speaker 3: those were like three of the biggest leads from the franchise.

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Speaker 1: Chris Sols Chrystal's advice was to just kiss kiss them all. Yeah, Chris,

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Speaker 1: good advice.

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Speaker 3: Chris, Yeah, Christal's give the advice kiss all the girls.

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Speaker 3: Sean Lowe and Jason Messick are obviously at the time

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Speaker 3: and still are to this day with the women that

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Speaker 3: they chose, so you know they are like.

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Speaker 1: That's actually impressive, I know, right, because uh, how many

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Speaker 1: kids they Him and Catherine have like three kids?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like three beautiful kids.

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Speaker 1: I've never had them on the podcast. We could see

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Speaker 1: if they could come on the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let us knows. You guys want us to reach

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Speaker 2: out to Sean and Catherine. I'd love to have them

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Speaker 3: But there I feel like great pillars of like, hey,

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Speaker 3: we're pillars of hope, like we did this, you.

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Speaker 2: Can do it too.

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Speaker 3: I also think a lot of people had hope for

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Speaker 3: Ben to like be another major success story because he is, yeah,

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Speaker 3: this like all American boy. He doesn't know if he

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Speaker 1: He was honestly, he was like like the first time

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Speaker 1: I kind of knew, Like when I heard people talking

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Speaker 1: about like the Bachelor, like girls that were like my age,

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Speaker 1: it was it was like Ben, like this guy, Ben Higgins.

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Speaker 1: So like his season. I think Ben's season was probably

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Speaker 1: like the biggest. Maybe it was I remember like really

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Speaker 1: just like word of mouth, like hearing about like people

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Speaker 1: talking about it all over them.

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Speaker 3: I mean Ben came off of Caitlin Bristow season of

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Speaker 3: The Batch Tray, which was also a very big season.

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Speaker 3: But we've got the intro package All American Boy chats

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Speaker 3: with the boys, and then we get into the packages

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Speaker 3: with the women.

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Speaker 1: Those also lasted pretty long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they last a long time too.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we've we've cut down on those, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: comparing to like Pete's episode one at least, Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: will sit Ben.

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Speaker 1: I noticed when the women we were getting out of

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Speaker 1: the limos, like the like The first girl we saw

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Speaker 1: was Lauren, who he ends up choosing. Yeah, but like

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Speaker 1: you see he he comes she looks.

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Speaker 3: So young too, but but no, yeah, they all do.

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Speaker 3: I mean this was like twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: But he comes across really nervous, and as the limo

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Speaker 1: think that, I don't know, I just relate to that

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Speaker 1: because that's how I feel like I would have been too,

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Speaker 1: like a nervous rest. That's how you were, Yeah, nervous

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Speaker 1: and then you like, you see his personality. I think

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Speaker 1: they did a good job of Night one showing off

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Speaker 1: Ben's personality.

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Speaker 3: I think so too, Yeah, which sometimes I find can

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Speaker 3: probably be hard for the lead because they are trying

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Speaker 3: to have you get to know all these different women

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Speaker 3: with all these big personalities. But Ben, having met him

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Speaker 3: now a few times in person, and I mean, you

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Speaker 3: know him better than me, but he does have like

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Speaker 3: quite a vibrant personality.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, like it's not hard.

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Speaker 1: If you check out my Instagram post and you scroll

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Speaker 1: like three slides, you will see Ben dancing.

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Speaker 3: Ben is a dance for maniac think I've never seen before.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, He's tearing up at Nick's wedding. It

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Speaker 3: But yeah, limo entrances that stood out to me obviously,

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Speaker 3: like Lauren was first of the limo. Kayla was good,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, there was some there was some rough intros.

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Speaker 3: There was I would say there was more rough than

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Speaker 3: solid little entrances, yeah, which I didn't feel for Pizza's

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Speaker 3: And I remember thinking, like, Pizza's a lot of really

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Speaker 3: good limo entrances, Jojo, but also.

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Speaker 1: Just just to stop you there, it's also just like

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Speaker 1: it's because it's been around for so long and now

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Speaker 1: so people that go on the show really do watch.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like back when it was like Ben's season,

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Speaker 1: and really like didn't know like kind.

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Speaker 3: But I feel like the gimmicky entrances used to be

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Speaker 3: was a lot of really gimmicky ones, like do you

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Speaker 3: think Jojo Fletcher's coming out of the limo with a

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Speaker 3: unicorn helmet on today?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Like no, like when she I actually was shocked, I

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Speaker 3: And Crystals work out. Yeah, no world, no world in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I guess if there's one night I

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Speaker 2: It's night one on the Bachelor.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's too horrible. Joe always thinks everything's too horrible. Casual,

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Speaker 3: Whose season was she on?

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Speaker 1: Originally maybe Chris Soles as well? Okay, but because but

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Speaker 2: They were both on Kaitlyn's season. Yeah, and then are

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Speaker 2: you sure?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And then Chris became the Bachelor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And then who became the bachelorette from Chris Soles this season?

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Speaker 1: Oh wait no, maybe I am wrong? Yeah, because maybe

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Speaker 2: I think Andy Dorfman season.

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Speaker 1: You're right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, Okay, really study up, buddy, You're right.

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Speaker 1: So it was so it was Andy, Chrys Soles.

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Speaker 3: lot of the girls knew who Becca was, but weren't

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Speaker 1: And then what else anything else big happened in this episode.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Olivia gets the first impression Rose. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I feel like that happens more on the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she's friends with Ashley. I I could

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Speaker 1: Like if I'm watching, I'm like, okay, I can't wait

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because Lace's train of events.

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Speaker 1: Move And the truth is that's what the show is

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Speaker 2: Lace just keep rying her back season no.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I want to talk to him. I

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Speaker 3: and great for us as contestants from morale, Like she

444
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 3: was such an entertaining presence and just kind of was like,

445
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do what I want when I want.

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Speaker 1: And we honestly we see a little bit of that

447
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,679
Speaker 1: with Hannah Ann and Pilot Pete were Hannah, She's just like,

448
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna pull the keep grabbing him because this

449
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 1: is going great.

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00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 2: I know, I feel like we're missing that a little bit.

451
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's because people watch and they know that, they

452
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 1: know that and like.

453
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 3: Or it just ends up like people do it, but

454
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 3: it gets taken like too seriously. Yeah, it's not like

455
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 3: fun as much anymore.

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Speaker 1: I wonder is is Lace a I wonder if Lace

457
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 1: is like a villain or is she friends with everyone?

458
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,719
Speaker 1: Like do the girls like end up not liking her.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it's a good question. I can't remember.

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Speaker 3: I feel like she doesn't make it far enough to

461
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 3: probably become a villains after this, Like I I don't

462
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 3: know if Paradise was a thing yet after.

463
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Speaker 1: This, Like watching like Kayla, I'm like, oh, she's.

464
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Speaker 3: Great, Like Kyla, Quinn yeah, like she is person sprised.

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Speaker 3: If she would have if it wasn't Jojo, I could

466
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,199
Speaker 3: see them making her the bouchelorette.

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00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's very cute.

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00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 3: So let's run through some of the people that end

470
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 3: up end up on other shows. Yeah, so we got

471
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,239
Speaker 3: Lauren who ends up with Ben engaged at the end,

472
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 3: didn't work out. Now she's with that singer Chris Chris Lane.

473
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Speaker 3: Chris Lane. So really worked out for her. Kayla ended

474
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Speaker 3: up on Paradise. Did she Yes, she was dating She

475
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 3: dated Jared for a hot minute.

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Speaker 1: Okay, oh wow, you.

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Speaker 2: Definitely you definitely knew that.

478
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Speaker 1: I didn't.

479
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Speaker 2: Really they like went on a date. I think Jen

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Speaker 2: sev Jennifer see.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah she was. She was Actually, wasn't she on

482
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Speaker 1: your No, I would have I would have Actually, I

483
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Speaker 1: would remove a man Stanton from my top four and

484
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Speaker 1: I would have put Jen in there.

485
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Speaker 2: So Jen and.

486
00:22:55,200 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 3: Jen and Ben had a great conversation. She is insanely beautiful.

487
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 3: I could not see her face. They had them sitting

488
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 3: in like a black bush, Like I literally couldn't see

489
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 3: a thing. It was like pitch black. I can't see

490
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 3: her face. I can't see his face. I was like

491
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 3: someone moved them, like what it was a long scene too.

492
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Speaker 1: Lighting the show was struggling back, she was struggling.

493
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 2: They couldn't afford the actual lighting. But what paradises was

494
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Speaker 2: she on?

495
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Speaker 1: So I know Jen was on a she was on

496
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Speaker 1: a paradise with Nick viol right right, because I remember

497
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Speaker 1: watching it.

498
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 3: They like got to the platform at the end and

499
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 3: they broke up on instead of getting a game.

500
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Speaker 1: And then she came back where she went on.

501
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 2: A date with Chris Bakowski.

502
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: Maybe, but she came back. She was on a like

503
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: the paradise before ours.

504
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And Chris was on that one. That's so

505
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 3: he ended up engaged to Katie Bow, but he did

506
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Speaker 3: go on a date with Jen.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, she was on that.

508
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Speaker 3: I think she has a baby now. Nice Amanda Stanton,

509
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 3: Amanda Stanton, she's Staton Stanton. Yeah, she was on Paradise.

510
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 2: Yep, she makes it. She is.

511
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 3: She's married now she has a new baby. Yeah, Wow,

512
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 3: everyone's having babies. It's crazy, Lace Jojo, we know what

513
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 3: happens with her, Haley and Emily. I feel like it's

514
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 3: crazy to go through the cast and to be like, yeah,

515
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 3: they're all married with kids, like little did they know

516
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 3: cho Yeah. Becca Tilly was on Tuesday's The Bachelor, and

517
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 3: her whole thing was that she was waiting till marriage.

518
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 3: I feel like that was like a big storyline for her.

519
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 3: And she's now been in like a six year relationship

520
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 3: with Haley Kioko, who is like a singer musical suck.

521
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: We met them before.

522
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 3: They're like the coolest and so cute together, and they've

523
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 3: been together for a really long time.

524
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 2: And then yeah, that's kind of like the update on who.

525
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: Else is there any? And then Jojo becomes the Bachelor.

526
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, JoJo's the next Bachelorette, which that was a pretty

527
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 3: big season. Yeah, I feel like that was a huge season.

528
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 3: I mean, she ended up with Jordan. They're still together

529
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 3: to this day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

531
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 3: And then Ben is sadly no longer with Lauren b

532
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 3: who he gets engaged to at the end of the season.

533
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: For those of you that didn't want it.

534
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Speaker 1: Sadly though, I wouldn't say sadly, you're.

535
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: Right, not sadly. I take that back.

536
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: You're both happy.

537
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 2: You're both married.

538
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 3: She's married to Chris Lane and he is married to

539
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 3: jess Clark. I guess now Jess Higgins, Jessica Higgins. I

540
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 3: don't know if she's changed the last name. Well, I

541
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 3: have to ask him where do they live again?

542
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: They live in Denver.

543
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 3: They live in Denver, and she's so sweet and they're

544
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 3: very happy. So the love story always works out in

545
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 3: the end.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into all that.

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00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the first question I'm gonna ask Ben

549
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: was how was it being the Bachelor at twenty six

550
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: and if it would be Does he think it would

551
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: be different if he was the bachelor now? Like his mentality?

552
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 3: I think the answer is definitely, But I'm curious to

553
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 3: hear what he says about it for sure.

554
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: Because he was definitely Like it really did seem like

555
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: he was ready?

556
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it did it? Did he really? He did

557
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 3: seem ready. I mean he got engaged and they were together.

558
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: For a minute.

559
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they had a show too, Yeah, and.

560
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 3: Then like not soon after, but then he his next

561
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 3: relationship was his now wife, So I don't doubt that

562
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: he was ready. You know, you see his parents on

563
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 3: it and stuff like that too, so like what did

564
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 3: they think about all of it?

565
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: But we have lots of questions to ask Ben.

566
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Speaker 3: I feel like going back and watching like an old

567
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 3: season sparks so many new questions that like we can't

568
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 3: ask current leads. Yeah, because hindsight's always twenty twenty. For

569
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 3: them to be able to look back on their season,

570
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 3: I feel like they have so much more to say

571
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 3: about it now than they would have at the time.

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00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's like fully moved on totally. You know,

573
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: it's not like his season was like a year ago,

574
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Speaker 1: two years ago and he was still like, oh to

575
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Speaker 1: the single, Like, yeah, he's fully moved on, like he

576
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: could literally laugh about the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: All right, So yeah, make sure you guys stay tuned

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Speaker 1: next week because we're gonna have been on and we're

580
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Speaker 1: going to talk to him about all this. We hope

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Speaker 1: you're enjoying some of these old recaps because you know,

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Speaker 1: it's off season and we got nothing to do, and

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Speaker 1: we're enjoying this, so we hope you are too. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening and subscribing to the best of our Happy Hour. Bye.