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Speaker 1: The volume What is going on? Everybody? John middlecop three

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Speaker 2: Here? Is the drill Today?

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Speaker 1: I recorded a National Championship in Just College Football kind

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Speaker 1: of preview for tonight with Jackson intern Jackson last week,

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Speaker 1: so that'll be the majority of the podcast I'm going

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Speaker 1: with Colin after the Ravens Bills game. So I did

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Speaker 1: a quick reaction after the Eagles won before that game,

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Speaker 1: so I that'll open up the show. Some thoughts on

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Speaker 2: That that was fun.

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Speaker 1: I mean I was, I was pacing around the office.

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Speaker 1: sweating that bad boy out. But so we'll react to

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Speaker 1: the Rams Eagles game, obviously the Eagles going back to

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Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game, and we will talk some college

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Speaker 1: just a just a podcast. So hopefully everyone had a

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Speaker 1: good weekend. Hopefully everyone enjoyed the football. We also had

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Speaker 1: a reaction and a podcast and a video, so go

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Speaker 1: if you listen on Collins Feed on Saturday night after

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Speaker 1: what game was at the Lions lost.

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Speaker 1: Of figuring out, you know, you're just so in the

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Speaker 1: moment after the Lions game. Some thoughts on the Chiefs game.

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Speaker 1: that out as well. There's nothing better than playoff football

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Speaker 1: in the snow in freezing cold temperatures. That was awesome.

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Speaker 1: I mean that that was the best. When the snow

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Speaker 1: started coming down, it literally started falling right as Saquon

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Speaker 1: Howie had his imprint and fingertips all over this bad boy.

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Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley runs for two hundred and five yards, two

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Speaker 1: massive explosive runs. They have Jalen Carter, who forced a

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Speaker 1: huge fumble on Kierwin Williams when it felt like the

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Speaker 1: But to me, this team has kind of gone all

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Speaker 1: season with Saquon Barkley and very fitting that today in

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Speaker 1: At halftime, he has ninety yards, but you remove the

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Speaker 1: That's why when people are saying like could they trade them, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Played at Florida right way back in the day, like

432
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Speaker 1: the fifties or sixties. He then left for the Washington Yeah,

433
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Speaker 1: and then resurrected South Carolina. At the time he was

434
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Speaker 1: coach of South Carolina, it was pretty clear he was

435
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Speaker 1: all in South Carolina and he was in at the

436
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Speaker 1: you know, when they had East and West in the SEC.

437
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 1: He's played Florida every year, but it's like, it's not

438
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Speaker 1: like I like Florida more than I don't know the

439
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 1: team I coach. So he's uh, I've really listen. I

440
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: didn't know that much about him and then you lose

441
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Speaker 1: the Marshall. I think Marcus Freeman is the biggest winner of.

442
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Speaker 2: This football season.

443
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: I think Ryan Day has settled everything and you know,

444
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 1: brought his credibility back after the Michigan.

445
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 2: Lost with these three weeks.

446
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Speaker 1: But I think just the overall winner of like, this

447
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 1: guy's kind of a star, you know, and if you

448
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: look at the EBB and flow of guys, you know, Kirby,

449
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: he's already won national championships. I know he loses in

450
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 1: the first round, but it doesn't change the way people

451
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Speaker 1: think about him. I would say Dabo's star is dimmed

452
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: a little bit, given like how dominant he once was.

453
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: Lincoln's fallen off a cliff, you would say Marcus Freeman

454
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Speaker 1: of just like the coaching rankings, I think given what

455
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Speaker 1: the run Kirby's on, I think most people would put

456
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Speaker 1: him as the number one coach in college football.

457
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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, if Marcus were to win this game, you couldn't

459
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Speaker 1: put Ryan Day ahead of him. But I would say

460
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Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman right now is like a top three or

461
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Speaker 1: four coach in college football. So and you know better

462
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Speaker 1: than me. But over the last decade, it's hard to

463
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Speaker 1: compare because Brian Kelly a lot of his run was

464
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Speaker 1: early on, right when they played Alabama, there was no

465
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Speaker 1: Final four.

466
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 2: He just went to the National championship and he.

467
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Speaker 1: Went to the Final four. How many times they go

468
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Speaker 1: to the playoffs with Brian Kelly once.

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Speaker 4: Twice, twice? Yeah, they walked to Alabama and then Clemson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So they lost those games and were overmatched

471
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Speaker 1: right in those moments. So to go be Georgia like

472
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Speaker 1: he did, and then to follow that up with the

473
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Speaker 1: Penn State win when he was kind of getting worked,

474
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Speaker 1: that's as good of a two week stretch as Brian

475
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Speaker 1: Kelly ever had, right.

476
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I saw his comments yesterday. I think he talked about

478
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Speaker 4: Notre Dame and how there was a quote that was saying, oh,

479
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Speaker 4: Brian Kelly's gonna root for Notre Dame for the National championship,

480
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Speaker 4: and how he said, he said, quote something I would go.

481
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Speaker 4: I didn't leave Notre Dame because I couldn't win a

482
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Speaker 4: national championship. I went to get another opportunity. It's like, okay, bullshit, buddy,

483
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Speaker 4: you said that you left Notre Name because you thought

484
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Speaker 4: you couldn't win a national championship.

485
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Speaker 2: There you went and go took a bag. And I

486
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Speaker 2: also like, that's.

487
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Speaker 4: One thing about Brian Kelly that never worked out with

488
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Speaker 4: Notre Name, and that Marcus Freeman's working out with Notre

489
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 4: Name is because he's more players first, and maybe Brian

490
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Speaker 4: Kelly is behind the scenes, but it seems like out

491
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 4: in public it's always me, me, me III. And he

492
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Speaker 4: talked about how he's rooting for the players. That quote

493
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Speaker 4: I recruited is what Brian Kelly said. In that quote,

494
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Speaker 4: I just it kind of rubbed me the wrong way.

495
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Speaker 4: And maybe, yeah, there's some guys on that team that

496
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Speaker 4: you recruited that are six year, seventh year, fifth year seniors.

497
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Speaker 4: But if you watch Notre Name, majority of their playmakers

498
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Speaker 4: are guys that Marcus has brought in.

499
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Speaker 2: To me.

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Speaker 1: Brian Kelly's had an incredible career coaching. This LSU stint

501
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Speaker 1: has not gone well, but before that his rise. When

502
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Speaker 1: I was at Fresno State, we played the Cincinnati team

503
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Speaker 1: that went to the BCS with Tony Pike was the quarterback,

504
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Speaker 1: and that was the year that he left before the

505
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: game to go to Notre Dame and that team was undefeated,

506
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: and that's when he really kind of became a star.

507
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: And then obviously going to Notre Dame. But like he was,

508
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: he was a real high end coach. But most people

509
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: hate him because they just think he's a royal scumback

510
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: the scissor lift thing. I remember being in college and

511
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 1: we had like a Janki thing at Fresno State. The

512
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: wins weren't as crazy. I honestly shocked more people didn't

513
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Speaker 1: fall over over the years. I don't you know what

514
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, the filming guy that fell with the

515
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Speaker 1: crazy wins. I honestly it was like his first year

516
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Speaker 1: at Notre Dame.

517
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 2: I think a guy, I think guy died.

518
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Speaker 1: But and then ever since, people just wanted to hate

519
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Speaker 1: him the way he left Cincinnati that moment, and clearly

520
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: he can just be kind of pompous and arrogant, and

521
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: there's just more of a and obviously there's an age gap,

522
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Speaker 1: but just feels like Marcus Freeman's pretty normal cat, like

523
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Speaker 1: most people could have a conversation with a guy, and

524
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Speaker 1: I'm with you, I totally disagree of like rooting for

525
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Speaker 1: I mean, marks Freeman wins it, basically, I don't want

526
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 1: to say invalidates Brian Kelly's run, but it no one

527
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: will ever discuss Brian Kelly again.

528
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Speaker 2: It'll it'll almost be viewed as.

529
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Speaker 1: Hey, he couldn't. He was good, but couldn't quite get

530
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Speaker 1: him over the hump, even though he did kind of

531
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Speaker 1: resurrect the program. I mean it was it was in

532
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 1: bad shape when he got there. But it does feel

533
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Speaker 1: like Marcus Freeman if he were to win this game, hell,

534
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Speaker 1: even just being in this game, because I got a

535
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Speaker 1: DM the other day that said, how does Brian Kelly,

536
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Speaker 1: how do we talk any different about Brian Kelly? If

537
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Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman gets his ass kicked in this game like

538
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly got him to this game, I'm like, well,

539
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: it's not exactly apples to apples, because the one time

540
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: he played Alabama.

541
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Speaker 2: Got blown out.

542
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: There wasn't a twelve team playoffs, so he never he

543
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: just played his schedule and then got to that game

544
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: and got killed like I saw Brian or I saw

545
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Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman play Georgia, which would almost be equivalent of

546
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Speaker 1: the Alabama or a Clemson game, and go toe to

547
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Speaker 1: toe with them, and then seven days later played Penn State,

548
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: who I think it's fair to say top to bottom

549
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: has more talent currently on the roster and beat him.

550
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: Because so it's like, I don't know. I think those

551
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: two victories you know better than me. But does he

552
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: did Brian Kelly have a better win in his tenure

553
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: than the Georgia win.

554
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 4: No, I'm trying to even think of wins maybe at

555
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 4: home against a top five ranked opponent. I can't even

556
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 4: think because two when Marcus' first year, he beat a

557
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 4: top five Clemson at home when they had Dju which,

558
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 4: at the time, not looking back, not a great quarterback,

559
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 4: but during the time they were undefeated Clemson coming in

560
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 4: and it was a big win for Notre Name, especially

561
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 4: after losing those first two Ohio State, Marshall.

562
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: But I can't I can't think of one.

563
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 4: And for them, You're right, like Marcus Freeman's killed the

564
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 4: narrative that Notre Dame can't win the big one. I'm

565
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 4: even having friends texting me like, I kind of like

566
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 4: Notre Name now with Marcus Freeman as they head for they.

567
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: Now he's a little like Duke basketball, where most people

568
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: had like a strong opinion, and let's face it, if

569
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: you weren't like a Duke fan, a lot of people

570
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: just naturally hate him. And that's what I always felt.

571
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: Notre Dame was like, I think the Cowboys are like this,

572
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: the Lakers are like this.

573
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,239
Speaker 2: The Yankees are like this.

574
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: They feel pretty likable. Like honestly in that game, I

575
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: had money on Penn State. But it's like, I get

576
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: why people are like, he's this James Franklin guy. Marcus

577
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: is just much. He made Notre Dame likable, which I

578
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: bet if you ask someone like fifty or older, they'd

579
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: be like, that's unheard of. That's people like Notre Dame

580
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: just a casual fan. I think most people are gonna

581
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: be rooting for him. I think the scary thing is,

582
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: regardless of the outcome of this game, is I think

583
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: he's kind of on the radar of NFL teams because

584
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: he was an NFL player and he clearly is a

585
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: fantastic leader. He kind of has like a Hardbob brother Tomlin,

586
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll a little happier, you know, kind of vibe

587
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: to him, just like a natural leader, just kind of

588
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: a stud.

589
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: And he's so young.

590
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you could still have him for five more years.

591
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,719
Speaker 1: But I wonder, man, if these teams are gonna keep

592
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: stipping around. Maybe he's got what's having kids. He's a

593
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: fascinating individual. Yeah, really he really is. Like he just

594
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: converted the Catholicism this past year.

595
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: They go to mass more.

596
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 4: But to your point about Marcus Freeman, it's unreal about

597
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 4: this Notre Dame team because it seemed like, and before

598
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 4: the season start, talked about it, how the biggest part

599
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 4: making a way to the CFP sixteen games is that depth.

600
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 4: It just seems like every single time they have someone

601
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 4: get hurt, someone comes in and they continue to win.

602
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 4: That's my biggest issue, my biggest worry with Notre Dame.

603
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: In this game. For Ohio State, it's going to be

604
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Speaker 2: the edges.

605
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 4: The left tackle Nap who was a freshman All American,

606
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Speaker 4: a guy that replaces Charles Jackasaw, which is kind of

607
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,479
Speaker 4: a full circle moment because charleis Jackasaw. He's a red

608
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 4: shirt freshman, red shirt sophomore. Left tackle is supposed to

609
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 4: be the Joe All two point zero tars Is pack.

610
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 4: During fall camp, they start a true freshman, he balls

611
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 4: out the entire season, becomes an All American. He gets

612
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 4: hurt against Penn State, He's not playing against Ohio State.

613
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 4: So if Jackasaw plays, he's supposed to start out left tackle.

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00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: He's supposed to.

615
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 4: And I'd feel more comfortable him, But that all depends

616
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 4: on the right guard because he got hurt during that

617
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 4: game too. So if the right guard Roco plays, then

618
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 4: he'll be at the left tackle position. But if he doesn't,

619
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Speaker 4: then he's going to be at the guard position and

620
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 4: Tosh Baker's at the left, so a lot of movement there.

621
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Speaker 4: For Notre Dame, I'm worried about the edge protection because

622
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 4: Sawyer and JTT, two guys that are supposed to be

623
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 4: first round picks, they've.

624
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: Been dud the entire season.

625
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: During the playoff, I looked up they've got ten combined

626
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: sacks in three games. So that to me is if

627
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: I'm a Notre Dame fan, would be my biggest concern.

628
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: And you hope that jackas Saw were to play, because

629
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: everything I've heard is they don't want to play Tosh Baker,

630
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: even though.

631
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 2: He's six ' eighties.

632
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 4: That left tackle he struggled, I mean, Abdul Carter with

633
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 4: one arm was absurd that whole first half.

634
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: And then he got hitting the shoulder and didn't play

635
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: much in the second. Yeah.

636
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Speaker 1: I think whether he had the shot of tour draowl

637
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: or whatever I think coming when the game started, I

638
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: think he felt completely fine, and the moment that he

639
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: had that rush where he got slammed on it, he

640
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,959
Speaker 1: was never the same. I would imagine whatever his actual

641
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: injury was, the pain that went on that. But those guys,

642
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: like you said, Sawyer first round. I actually text a

643
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: buddy who's a college director for an NFL team. He thought,

644
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: you know, he's not a he's like third fourth. But

645
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: again he's gonna be. He's gonna play in the NFL

646
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: for a long time. But he can have moments if

647
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: you're an unathletic tackle like the play that basically ended

648
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: the Texas Ohio State game. He just smoked that dude,

649
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: and you could tell the guy who's kind.

650
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: Of bending over.

651
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: And I mean Texas is rolling out NFL guys too,

652
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: So it's just it can be a tough matchup.

653
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 2: Big picture, that's a good thing.

654
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you got all these guys, like I would

655
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: imagine once you're gonna be your left one. It's gonna

656
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: be a right tackle. Next year you have life coming back.

657
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna have probably he should have like

658
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: a top two or three rushing attack in all the

659
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: country next year. But that who cares about that for

660
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: this game? So yeah, I would say that one thing.

661
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: Ohio State, obviously they kicked the shit out of the

662
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: Oregon and Tennessee. They got into kind of like a

663
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: heavyweight brawl that you guys have been playing in these

664
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: last two games and they have haven't played in that

665
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: after the Michigan loss in the playoffs so far, and

666
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,479
Speaker 1: they went toe to toe and they kind of relish

667
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: that moment. And that's the scary thing, Like we know

668
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: they can score. The good thing is your guys defense

669
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: is so good. You know, I think you can copy

670
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: a little bit of what they did with Jeremiah Smith.

671
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: You know, Texas defense is elite too. I mean, all

672
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: four of these defenses right in the playoffs are really

673
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: really good. So if you can just slow him down,

674
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: it just slows down their offense a little bit. I'm

675
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: tempted to take Notre Dame as just you know, a

676
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: flyer money line, because the way that they could win

677
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: this game is it kind of like Texas had the chance.

678
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: You got to slow down the game, and you just

679
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: got to slow down their offense a little bit and.

680
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: Just keep it low scoring.

681
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: If Ohio State's getting above thirty, you're losing probably by

682
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: ten plus and they're gonna cover. If you can just

683
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: have it be like, Okay, it's fourteen to fourteen in

684
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: the third quarter. You got to play it like Kyle

685
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: Shannon and Jimmy Garoppolo style. We're not trying to score

686
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: thirty points. We have no problem winning the game with

687
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 1: seventeen to twenty one. But we are gonna slow down

688
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: the possessions and run the ball. And that's where I

689
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: think Jeremiah love playing. You know, as the game went on,

690
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,959
Speaker 1: he got a little bit. It felt like a little

691
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: more fluid because when right when they came to Marcus Freeman,

692
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, like the stupid ten second pregame interview, He's like, Eh,

693
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: see what he's got. I was like, I don't think

694
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: he's got anything. And then as the game went on,

695
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: it felt like he loosened up. Now he's got an

696
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: extra that's a lot of time between games, right, ten

697
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: plus days. So if he's just what do you think

698
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: he was that game? Seventy percent? If he's sixty five,

699
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: he wasn't close to one hundred. So now if he's just,

700
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: if he's an you add another ten to fifteen percent

701
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: of what he was, maybe gets to eighty five ninety

702
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: and just feels a little more fluid because to play

703
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: in that game alone, he had to be well over

704
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: fifty percent. And then now he's got a bunch more time,

705
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 1: he can just keep rehabbing that knee. If he could

706
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: be like ninety percent, just.

707
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: Need a good rushing attack.

708
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: But if it's if it g's if your defense doesn't.

709
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 2: Play well, you got no shot.

710
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 4: Right, No, I think they've got it. That's my other

711
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 4: issue I have too, is Kate Tron Allen, Nicholas Singleton

712
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,479
Speaker 4: rush for two hundred yards plus. That's the first time

713
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 4: this season they've really seen a two back system like

714
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 4: that in Ohio. State's probably better with Henderson and Judkins.

715
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 4: But to your point earlier about you know, I guess

716
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 4: the offensive line and Notre Dame offense.

717
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 2: That's one thing where I start Keshan.

718
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 4: They kept it a close game, they kept an ugly game,

719
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 4: but it was like that red zone blunder with Star

720
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 4: Keshon where he's like, I like to throw the ball

721
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 4: like you mentioned, but they're gonna they're gonna run up

722
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 4: the middle with the third string running back.

723
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 2: To den Brock's credit, he doesn't seem like a guy.

724
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 4: That's gonna do something like that if it's in the

725
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 4: red zone and put his team in a blunder where

726
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,959
Speaker 4: I know Texas is talent wise, offensive line wise, they've

727
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 4: got more flashy dudes that'll be top ten first round picks.

728
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 4: But I feel like Notre Dame as a whole, as

729
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 4: a unit is one of the best rushing offenses. And

730
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 4: if they can have Jeremiah Love and the last game

731
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 4: of the season, he's gonna probably play ninety percent. I

732
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 4: would assume that he gets twenty carries because when he

733
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 4: was on the field for that Penn State game, he

734
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 4: had two back to back carries it was like eight

735
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 4: yards and ten yards, and it felt like, you're right,

736
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 4: he was seventy percent and then he hurdles a guy

737
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 4: and you're like, Okay, well, maybe he's one hundred percent.

738
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 4: I'm not sure the adrenalin left factor goes in left leg. Yeah, yeah,

739
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 4: his left leg is one hundred percent.

740
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I I think you're right. I

741
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: think it's gotta be one of those ugly games.

742
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 4: I'm worried though, because they've got a young secondary with

743
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 4: notre name, and they play a lot of man defense,

744
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 4: and I know that Texas played a lot of zone

745
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 4: and a lot of stuff back. Do you think they

746
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 4: kind of play more towards their strengths man defense and

747
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 4: just say, hey, we got two corners that are really young,

748
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 4: we're gonna we're gonna bank on the fact that they

749
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 4: can beat Jeremiah Smith maybe pressure Will Howard. Do you

750
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 4: think they're gonna just sit back kind of what Texas

751
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 4: did and keep everything in front.

752
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: Well, I think the one thing Texas had been getting

753
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: smoked when they were in one on one situations in

754
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: the first two rounds, right, I mean, club Nick and

755
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 1: those fresh receivers or the one freshman receiver was destroying them.

756
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: And then the way ASU came storming back because they

757
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: hit some big plays. I mean, shit, Skataboo had, you know,

758
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: like a Peyton Manning level bomb where the guy was

759
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: just in a one on one situation. Skataboo was like

760
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: he even said after the game, I just I was

761
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: gonna give my guy a shot, and I think they

762
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: flipped it around, like we're not gonna be in that

763
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: with these guys because we got no shots. So they

764
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 1: were like dropping linebackers. They were they were keeping everything

765
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: behind him and having a guy underneath. I would imagine

766
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: that you got to implement some of that now, Like

767
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: you said, do they feel better like our guys just

768
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: as an athletic. I don't think you can treat Jeremiah

769
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: Smith just one on one. The problem in Texas had

770
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: this issue is they did an incredible job on them, right,

771
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,479
Speaker 1: Like if that was if they had won the game,

772
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: the star of the game would have been the defensive

773
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: coordinator in the game plan against the passing game. But Tate,

774
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: I mean, when you're a third wide receiver, and this

775
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: is what Ohio State has in the bag, Like their

776
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: third wide receiver in any given game could have one

777
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty one hundred and fifty yards and you

778
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: could throw them the ball fifteen times, right, and he

779
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: could score multiple touchdowns. So it's like, yeah, you can

780
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: stop the other two guys, but the other guy can

781
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 1: go nuts. Penn State.

782
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 2: I don't know enough. I'd have to text like NFL

783
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 2: people to know. Maybe they got some.

784
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: Underclassmen, like how elite their prospects are. But their offensive

785
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: line clearly is really good. I mean last year their

786
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: left tackle got drafted the Jets' top twelve pick. I

787
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: mean they aren't just recruiting the pass rushers and running backs, right,

788
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: I mean their offensive liner is good. Ohio States is not.

789
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about the big Henderson play

790
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: in that game, it was a screen pass, which if

791
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: I was gonna defend Texas on that, it's like end

792
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: a half. You don't want them to hit a bomb

793
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: or getting a field goal range. I think they got

794
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: a little too soft, and all of a sudden he

795
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: had running room and all he had to do was

796
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: make a guy miss. And he's probably I don't know

797
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: what his forty is, but it's probably closer to four

798
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: to three flat than it is four or five flat.

799
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: So that guy can fly, and I just they have

800
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: struggled running the ball. So if you guys put them

801
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: in a pass only situation and can just somewhat slow

802
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: down Jeremiah Smith. Again, that's the that's the that's the formula,

803
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: and to me, it's it's either Ohio State blowout like that.

804
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: There is no scenario where Notre Dame to me, wins

805
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 1: this game by unless there's like seven guys break legs

806
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: by a lot. They would have to win in a

807
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: crazy close game or Ohio State blows you out. I

808
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: have a hard time seeing even Ohio State win close.

809
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: I either see I either see like a twenty point

810
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: Ohio State victory.

811
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 2: I wouldn't go like.

812
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: Georgia TCU because obviously, you know, but like the version

813
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: of like god this we peaked in the second, you know,

814
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: in the final four, or like Notre Dame can win

815
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: it close, and they've just won two close games and

816
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: that wasn't that Marcus Freeman's thing, like we think we

817
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: can win the close game, Like we just keep this

818
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: thing close, we'll win it.

819
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

820
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 4: I think that's one thing for them is they've capitalized

821
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 4: off of turnovers and mistakes and situationally wise, I've thought

822
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 4: recently they've done a good job either third down, four

823
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 4: it down or in the red zone, which I guess

824
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 4: against a team like that, I mean, I told you before,

825
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 4: Like I looked all the stuff that Notre Dame has

826
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 4: to do, there's.

827
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: Like fifteen things that they got to do to win

828
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 2: Ohio State.

829
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 4: It's like, don't fuck it up, don't turn the ball over,

830
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 4: don't give them opportunity. So that was the one thing

831
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 4: that kept Texas in the game was all those fifteen

832
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 4: yard penalties they'd have on second and third down. And

833
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 4: then you look at Ohio State having Will Howard to

834
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 4: make a play on third and twenty third and twenty five, Like,

835
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 4: that's what kind of kept Texas in that game. So

836
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 4: if Ohio State does that again, Like I had a

837
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 4: friend talk to me about Ohio State's interior offensive line.

838
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 2: They're like, well, you know they've got injuries in the interior.

839
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 4: It's like, well yeah, but during that Texas game, they

840
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 4: look they've looked like the past couple of weeks, it

841
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 4: was like the biggest knock on Notre Dame beginning of

842
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 4: the season that they had an inexperienced offensive line. Now

843
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 4: you look sixteen weeks, their offensive line's got experience. It

844
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 4: seems like Ohio State's offensive line has adapted to their

845
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 4: injuries the past couple of weeks.

846
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 2: Well, when you're in Ohio State.

847
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: I mean, even if your backups aren't what they once were,

848
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: your backup is still If your backups all hit the

849
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: transfer portal, like Fresno State and San Diego State are

850
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: not signing them, right, I mean Wisconsin would die to

851
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: have them, let alone, you know, Belichick and Florida State.

852
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: I mean, the top teams would all be over their backups.

853
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, their backups might not be good of the

854
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: starter because the starter might be pick twenty eight in

855
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, But if you let the backup start

856
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: for two years, more likely at worst he's probably like

857
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick. So, I mean, Ohio State has

858
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 1: the best roster in the country for a reason. They've

859
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: had some injuries, but and they've peaked at the right time.

860
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: And listen, I actually think Texas is good, Like their

861
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: defense is big time right and their offensive quinn Ewers

862
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: could just play okay, which he was kind of You

863
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: kind of saw everything in that game.

864
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: They still have.

865
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: I mean, the best four rosters or four of the

866
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: best I would say six or seven were in the

867
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: final four. And it felt that way watching the speed

868
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: and I would say the text Ohio State game felt

869
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: like a little bit different level speed wise, but part

870
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: of it was, you know, I would say Notre Dame

871
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: Penn State was a little more like ground and pound

872
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: type game.

873
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 4: Has your impression or I guess your evaluation on Riley

874
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 4: Leonard during this playoff changed at all?

875
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 2: Like what from him? From his perspective?

876
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 4: Because you look at the top players in this game,

877
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 4: you probably go five to six, seven deep until you

878
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 4: reach a Notre Dame Notre Dame guy. But if you

879
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 4: say most impactful for this game, I'd say Riley Leonard

880
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 4: is two.

881
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: Or three just because what he can do with his

882
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: legs and his.

883
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 4: Unpredictability and when the pocket collapses, you think he's gonna

884
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 4: get sacked and he kind of rolls out of it.

885
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 4: What's your perspective on Riley Leonard this game? And I

886
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 4: guess the playoff as a whole.

887
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: Well, I think him and Will Howard are kind of

888
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: similar players, right. I think a lot of people question

889
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: like are they NFL passers?

890
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: Yet?

891
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: Will Howard, I mean, throws a lot of NFL passes,

892
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: but I think a lot of people question that. I

893
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: think that's definitely the question mark with Riley and both

894
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: of them. At any moment you can run a quarterback

895
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: power and they can run for twenty yards while they

896
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: run over a guy.

897
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: Is you see Will Howard.

898
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 1: Because of the way they play offense, just throw more

899
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: down the field. I thought Riley Leonard had two passes

900
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: I think one to the running back on like a

901
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: wheel route that was just beautiful and another one to

902
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: the tight end on the left side that were just

903
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: two like NFL. I mean, it was the difference in

904
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: the game, like he was making passes that Drowler just

905
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: could not make and just felt like in rhythm getting

906
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: hits like Dan if he's gonna make throws like that,

907
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: there are teams just on a different It's like why

908
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: to me, it's why they won the game. Was a

909
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: couple of his big passes.

910
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I I remember watching him with Duke.

911
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: I mean his his and this is what Mark Freeman

912
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: never shuts up about, like his competitive nature. What's crazy

913
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: is he's this massive guy, but he's got a baby face.

914
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: He looks like he's like fourteen years old, but he

915
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: he I've been impressed with this passing. Like to me,

916
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: he's definitely getting drafted higher than I thought. And I mean,

917
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: you know fourth round where I would have thought early

918
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: through the season like he's an undrafted free agent, but

919
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: coaches are gonna love this guy when they get involved

920
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 1: in the draft process, and I would put Will Howard

921
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: in this. I bet both both these two players win.

922
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 1: Like the coordinators and the head coaches get involved, especially

923
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 1: defensive head coaches, They're gonna like those two cats, They're

924
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: gonna get drafted a lot higher than anyone would have

925
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: thought two months ago. And I think both I would

926
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: flip a coin. I would guess from a character standpoint,

927
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: leaders they're both the same guy. One of those two

928
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: guys is gonna have a lot longer NFL career. Maybe

929
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: not a starter, but if you told me one of

930
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 1: those two guys like a ten year career bouncing around

931
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: as a backup, I believe, if not.

932
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 2: Both of them.

933
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, those two, those two guys were projected to be

934
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 4: drafted lower than this next guy I'm about to.

935
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: Telling about this, like Josh Josh Dobbs is gonna have

936
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: a ten year career.

937
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, two Because quarterbacks, I mean teams in the

938
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 4: NFL now you know too, Like they want a guy

939
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 4: that can move and a guy like Robby Leonard and

940
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 4: even Will Howard can move a little bit too. What'd

941
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 4: you make of our guy Carson Beck getting four million

942
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 4: dollars to Miami. Kudos to him, you know, him realizing

943
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 4: the leaves on the wall and say, hey, I'm not

944
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 4: a first round guy. I probably go second, maybe even

945
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 4: the second third day. Getting four million dollars off of

946
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 4: ucl injury, I mean he got double the amount of

947
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 4: money of cam Ward.

948
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 2: Uh.

949
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 4: It's krudos to him, but it seems like a lot

950
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 4: of pressure, maybe even a desperate move for Miami.

951
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: What was your take on that whole situation.

952
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: I think he'd be at Miami whether he had got

953
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: injured or right, like, if he had not gotten injured

954
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: and Georgia would have lost, I don't think he's Georgia's

955
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: quarterback next year.

956
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 2: Do you agree with that? Apparently Georgia wanted to keep him.

957
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 4: Apparently there was a report today that Georgia wanted him

958
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 4: back in twenty twenty five. And also I thought it

959
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 4: was interesting they said Alabama was a program that called

960
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 4: Carson Beck.

961
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 2: Which I was like, huh, that's that's kind of interesting.

962
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: Well, I do think that Debor likes more of a

963
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: pocket quarterback, so it does make sense. I think it

964
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: is a weird visual when you see him with like

965
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: the when he's meeting the offensive coordinator and I saw

966
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: some pictures and he's got the brock Purty elbow thing on.

967
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: I mean that's so he let's use brock Purty as example.

968
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: He got hurt in the NFC Championship game and he

969
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: was able to start Week one, so that's a lot later, right,

970
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: it's the end of January. This he gets injured when

971
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 1: middle of December, so you get extra time. He's gonna

972
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: be ready for for week one, but spring practice he

973
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: is not gonna be at least if I'm just basing.

974
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: We don't know for a fact, because in college it's

975
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: it's kind of weird the.

976
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 2: Way it gets reported.

977
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: We don't know exactly what a surgery is, but I

978
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: think it's pretty clear we can assume he had the

979
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: same injury.

980
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 2: Elbow gets ripped, needs.

981
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: The Tommy John quarterback thing, which is different than a

982
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: pitcher because I think your motion's a little easier and

983
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: guys can come back faster and you're not throwing all

984
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: out every single pitch like a pitcher. But if we

985
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: assume he has the same injury, spring practice is gone.

986
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: And you know, brock Purty in training camp went like

987
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: I remember, he kind of eased in and then he'd

988
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: go like a day on two days off. They started

989
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: going two days off like it was.

990
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: It wasn't just.

991
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: Like their team isn't that good, like their relative to Georgia.

992
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: So he's going to a worst team with no defense.

993
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: Like I think, given the money, you could go like

994
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: eight wins, and I think given what they're paying, it

995
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: could just get really weird and ugly. And I think

996
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a pressure on Mario. It's like, what's

997
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: going on here? We're paying all this money to all

998
00:47:58,880 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: these people.

999
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 2: We just had a quarterback.

1000
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: That is way better than Carson, right, Kim Ward. I

1001
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: don't know if he's a number one overall lock pick,

1002
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: but he's a top five or ten pick for sure,

1003
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: and he's way more talented. We get him a bunch

1004
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: of money and he carried us. So how are you

1005
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: going to build up the team in six months to

1006
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: be way better because this guy can't really carry you.

1007
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I think I see way more

1008
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: scenarios for this to go bad. The one thing with

1009
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: cam Ward is like he transfers. He could just start

1010
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: practicing and developing a report by the time the season

1011
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: started like they were. That's not the case here. And

1012
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: obviously the guy's girlfriends one of the twins. So it's like,

1013
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: I think there were a lot of different factors in fairness, Like,

1014
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: I think the twins make more than four million dollars.

1015
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: They are crushing it, aren't they like the nil dominate

1016
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: leaders of college athletics.

1017
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 2: Those two. Yeah.

1018
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 4: And also it's a benefit too that they're both attractive,

1019
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 4: which helps, and they're both dancers and stuff.

1020
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: That's why.

1021
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh, but yeah, I think it's It's really interesting.

1022
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 4: I think for Carson Beck's perspective, it's a smart move.

1023
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,479
Speaker 4: Whenever anyone offers you four million dollars to play another year,

1024
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 4: where you know, Quinn you were today declared for the

1025
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 4: NFL Draft, it's like, okay, Like Quinn have fun getting

1026
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 4: drafted in Day three, Day four. I think the one

1027
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 4: positive you could say for Carson Beck is that he's

1028
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 4: going to a place that will probably have better receivers

1029
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 4: than he had this year, probably a better offensive line

1030
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 4: scheme wise that he had at Georgia versus at Miami.

1031
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: And I guess to strength the schedules way less like.

1032
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 4: I mean, they're gonna have probably they the hardest strength

1033
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 4: of schedule this last year at Georgia versus when he

1034
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 4: goes to Miami, they're probably gonna be around fifty or seventy.

1035
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 4: So I guess that's kind of a plus being the

1036
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 4: acc and a more of an offense that benefits him

1037
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 4: throwing the football.

1038
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 2: And have big numbers, I guess. But yeah, he's a scrub.

1039
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: I know he was two years ago when he had

1040
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: Bowers mcakey.

1041
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: He was exactly. He's a solid.

1042
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: He's not as bad as he was this year. But

1043
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: I do think when you factor in the injury, when

1044
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: you factor in the team, he's going to Like you said,

1045
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: it's an easier schedule. But they had they might have

1046
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: the number one overall quarterback this year in a good offense,

1047
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: and they were in. I felt like every game they

1048
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: were in it was a tight game and that guy

1049
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: was his ass like and Carson doesn't quite have that

1050
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: physical ability.

1051
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: I give him credit.

1052
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: He one towards the UCL Even if he would have

1053
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: got drafted, he would have got drafted on the six

1054
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: or seventh round. You take the four million dollars, I

1055
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: would say the same thing to Quinn yours, like you

1056
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: are no lock to go any higher than I would

1057
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: say the fourth round, you know, like day three, So

1058
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: did you have offers at two, three, four million, which

1059
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: I would guess he would like, you're crazy not to

1060
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: take that. Now, he's he was an unconventional from the start, right,

1061
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: didn't he skip like a senior year in high school

1062
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: and like reclassified, went to Ahiuse State. So he's had

1063
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: a kind of a He was one of the leaders

1064
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: in the nil lawsuits, so he's I think he's beats

1065
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: to his own drum that way, which I'm not like,

1066
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: I'm all four, but I just think that, man, if

1067
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: you could have got three million dollars like your NFL

1068
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 1: career could end fast.

1069
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 4: I haven't met a kid that took a year off

1070
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 4: of high school and left a year like you know

1071
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 4: they say, oh, I'm gonna forego my senior year and

1072
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 4: go a year early. I don't remember a quarterback specifically

1073
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 4: that's turned out well from doing that.

1074
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 2: I remember JT.

1075
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 4: Daniels when he came out of college or came out

1076
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 4: of high school. He's like the number one quarterback in

1077
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 4: the country. Forego to senior year, and then just became

1078
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 4: one of those guys that went to USC than Georgia

1079
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 4: and then West Virginia than Rice. Like that was the

1080
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 4: same thing for Quinn Ewers when he was quote the

1081
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 4: greatest quarterback recruit that was his title out of high school.

1082
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 4: And then just to kind of see the way things

1083
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 4: are going, You're right, like he could have got I

1084
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 4: saw rumors of Oregon, Ohio, State, North Carolina, Notre Dame,

1085
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 4: Alabama all looking at him for three million dollars. And

1086
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 4: he's healthy. That's one thing about him versus Cars and Beck.

1087
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 4: It's like Beck's got that injury. And you could argue,

1088
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 4: I mean, who do you think had a better year?

1089
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: Beck or Youwers yours?

1090
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he would have definitely got three or

1091
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: any factor. And like his elbow works right now and

1092
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: he can practice in the spring. If listen, you do

1093
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: what you want to do. I hate, I can't even

1094
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: you couldn't put a gun to my head and force

1095
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: me to go to a class, like I mean, so

1096
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: not saying that these guys are actually going to class,

1097
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: but if they do have to get a minimum go

1098
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: to a class or two a week, I understand. Never

1099
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: wanting to look at a professor. Again, but if I

1100
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: assume that, you know, they don't really have to go

1101
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: to class. If he had three million dollars on the

1102
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: table and I was advising him, I would have advised to,

1103
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: you know, pick whatever the best program you want to

1104
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: go to of your options and take that money. When

1105
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: you think big picture, I think there is I would

1106
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: I would say if I was a betting man, he's

1107
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: more likely to be in and out of the NFL

1108
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: fast than have a longer career, and especially once you

1109
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: like if he goes in the fourth, fifth, sixth round,

1110
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: you know, part of the reason the guy like Mariota

1111
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: or Carson Wentz you look at some of the backups

1112
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: right now can stick around a little longer and way

1113
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: Carson Wentze, even when you're a really high pick, he

1114
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,479
Speaker 1: gets some extra chances over the course of your life,

1115
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 1: like Mariota's gonna have like a fifteen year career. It's

1116
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: like you're not a very good player, but it doesn't

1117
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: matter because like high pedigree, obviously high character and stuff.

1118
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: But when you're a mid round pick, it's there's a

1119
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: huge element of like out of your control luck involved,

1120
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: you know, like a Chase Danuel having a fourteen year

1121
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: career as an undrafted free agent is pretty unheard of

1122
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: a quarterback for a guy that never starts, you know,

1123
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: you see a guy like Ryan Fitzpatrick or whatever. I

1124
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: think fitz might have been a seventh round pick, but

1125
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: he got to start for a long time. When you're

1126
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 1: just a lifetime backup, it's harder.

1127
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: You know.

1128
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: Aj mccerrn's one of those guys. I think, like a

1129
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: late round pick that plays a backup for a long time.

1130
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: Most of those guys get washed out faster and they stay.

1131
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: Like it's a small percentage of guys that stay, because

1132
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: most of the guys that stay are like Jimmy Garoppolo

1133
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: is the.

1134
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: Second round pick. He's gonna be a backup for another

1135
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: three or four years, even.

1136
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: Though he might just be just as good as some

1137
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: of the guys that are like fifth round picks. They

1138
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: just get the benefit of doubt because they got to

1139
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: start a little bit or higher pedigree guy. So if

1140
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: you tell me right now, quinn Ewers ends up being

1141
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: a fifth round pick and maybe ends up going higher,

1142
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: I would doubt it. But even if he just goes

1143
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: fourth round pick third day, there was just no you

1144
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: don't get the benefit of the doubt if like immediately

1145
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: you don't look good in preseason, you're just holding on

1146
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: for dear life from the jump where it's easier as

1147
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: like a guard or a linebacker, because like you can

1148
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: play special teams, right, so many other guys get hurt

1149
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,439
Speaker 1: like a quarterback. If you're on the practice squad. There's

1150
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:31,959
Speaker 1: jesus a chance you could stay on the practice squad

1151
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, which again doesn't suck, but

1152
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: you make I think it's ten twelve. You make like

1153
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty grand.

1154
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 4: I think quinn Ewers' mom's on payroll for him too,

1155
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 4: which is also another reason why it's like, hey, you

1156
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 4: get offered three million dollars, why not help your mom

1157
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 4: out a little bit too? Is on that payroll. I

1158
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 4: was gonna ask you because you mentioned him in a

1159
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 4: fifth wrong guy. Is there any way for him to

1160
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 4: boost up his stock through this NFL comm Pro.

1161
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 2: Day, Like, like, what do you call it? I guess

1162
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 2: draft workouts and stuff that he's gonna go through.

1163
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: I think the Senior Bowl is now allowed to take underclassmen.

1164
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: If that's true, he should one hundred percent play in

1165
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. Like if he's allowed to play in

1166
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: the All Star Game, which I'm pretty sure they changed

1167
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 1: that rule within the last year or two, he should

1168
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: go to the Senior Bowl and participate, which I would

1169
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: guess he would, and he would be one of the

1170
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: I mean, if you told me Quinn you weres win

1171
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, he'd be one of the biggest names

1172
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: there for sure, And that's part of being a quarterback.

1173
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: But like, I didn't know, it's you know, like like

1174
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: the models on Joe Burrow's payroll, like similar thing. Did

1175
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: you see that the girl that saved his house from

1176
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: getting robbed?

1177
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, said she's an employee of his.

1178
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 4: That's a whole weird situation. She's I think she's by too,

1179
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 4: So I don't know. I mean that kudos to Joe Burrow.

1180
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 4: If you've got enough money to have a smoking hot

1181
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 4: model as you're made.

1182
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: You never know, you know, these guys, these guys are

1183
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: living well.

1184
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 4: A speaking of a guy living worldway now in the

1185
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 4: whole deon Sanders Colorado Cowboys thing. We talked about it before,

1186
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 4: and I kind of want to bring it up from

1187
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 4: the college perspective. Are you a little hesitant. Are you

1188
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 4: a little scared if you're Colorado side where every single

1189
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 4: job offer that comes to be Deon Sanders name is

1190
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 4: brought up? Or is it kind of one of those

1191
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 4: things where you knew heading in Deon Sanders big name,

1192
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 4: you knew him the success he brought to Colorado. It's

1193
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 4: like what you mentioned earlier about Marcus Freeman. It's like, yeah,

1194
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 4: when your team does well, when your team becomes better

1195
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 4: than expected, your three year in the National Championship, it

1196
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 4: is prone or you have an opportunity that Marcus Freeman

1197
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 4: will move on and get other opportunities and get other interviews,

1198
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 4: whether it's bigger colleges or or other NFL teams.

1199
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 2: What's your college perspective?

1200
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 4: I guess on the whole Sanders Colorado Cowboys thing, yeah,

1201
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 4: I think if you're Colorado, you just it's good publicity

1202
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:07,919
Speaker 4: at this point in time.

1203
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 2: I mean, he resurrected your program. Part of the deal.

1204
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 1: Also, if you want to be a real program, like

1205
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: your team, your guy is gonna get rumored. I mean,

1206
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: Notre Dame for ten years, Brian Keller's getting rumored for

1207
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: NFL jobs. So it's like Kirby Smart every year people

1208
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: like would someone come after him sabing forever let alone?

1209
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 2: Like could Texas steel him?

1210
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: And NFL people sniffing around just Lincoln Riley forever. That

1211
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: means that's a good problem to have, So I think

1212
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: they have no issue to complain. And my guests, uh,

1213
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: maybe by the time someone listened to this, he's taking

1214
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: the cowboy job.

1215
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 2: I doubt it.

1216
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,919
Speaker 1: I saw my guy I used to work with Lewis

1217
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: Riddick with the Eagles, and he's good buddies with Dion.

1218
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: He played with Dion with the Falcons, and he said

1219
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: that he thought there was no chance of it happening

1220
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: because Dion's such an out and like, you know, you

1221
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: work for the cowboys, like ultimately you do answer to

1222
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: Jerry where Dion answers college jobs, like if if you're

1223
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: at a top job making premium money like Dabo Kirby,

1224
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: even Ryan Day, you know, Harbaugh forever, Sabin definitely sark Now,

1225
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: James Franklin, Like they're not really answering to anybody. There

1226
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: isn't like an owner that cuts their check. So I

1227
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: think if you like doing that, and Dion clearly likes,

1228
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: there's an element and I think we'll truly find out.

1229
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: I mean, his children coaching your kids pretty fucking cool?

1230
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: You know now that like, does he truly care about

1231
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: all these other guys because Travis was basically like his son, right,

1232
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: So now he's coaching people that aren't he didn't grow

1233
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: up knowing coaching his own children.

1234
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: Does he love?

1235
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: And it does feel like he likes that element of

1236
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 1: it where he knows, like thirty three year old ain't

1237
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: coming to you for life lessons. So I think, Dion,

1238
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: I do you think Jerry's going to be interested in?

1239
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 2: Who knows?

1240
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: But I mean, are we a year from him being

1241
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: the Florida State head coach? Are we a year away

1242
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: from him being the Florida coach?

1243
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 2: Right? You know if dabbling Clemson? What whatever break up?

1244
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: I mean these schools you.

1245
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: See, Clemson just stole Penn State's defensive coordinator, Tom Allen,

1246
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: the Indiana guy, So it just shows yeah, oh Clemson,

1247
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: they're kind of falling behind, like, well, I don't know,

1248
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: I don't think so these schools care deeply. So to me,

1249
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: Dion's another eight plus win year away.

1250
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 2: Like if he went eight and.

1251
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: Four this year, I think all those SEC teams, any

1252
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: team that needed a guy would come right to Deon

1253
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: because he can recruit in recruiting now, like they have

1254
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: the nil money. It's like everyone's offering a kid three

1255
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: four hundred grand. It's like, who do I actually want

1256
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: to play for?

1257
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 2: Right?

1258
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: If I fell all the money for our top guys,

1259
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: and clearly Dion, you probably follow recruiting closer to me.

1260
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: But he's landed some big time dudes since he's been

1261
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: in Colorado that definitely had financial offers from like SEC

1262
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: and Big ten schools and like Clemson in Florida State.

1263
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, the Travis quarterback.

1264
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: He clearly he had that was easy. Like looking back,

1265
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: it's not as crazy as Travis went with him to

1266
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: Jackson State.

1267
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 2: You know.

1268
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: Now though, can he get a guy that's like Alabama, LSU, Georgia,

1269
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: Ohio State and Dion And he goes to Dion and

1270
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: everyone's offering him five hundred thousand dollars And if he

1271
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: starts doing that, then every team in the country would

1272
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: give him ten because he's I mean, Dabble's not calm place, right,

1273
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of these Kirby's not. So if

1274
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: you're recruiting at that level, then to me, he's he's

1275
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: an eighty ninety million dollar coach.

1276
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 2: I mean, that's how much these guys are making, right.

1277
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dion actually stole well, he stole left tackle last year,

1278
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 4: Jordan Seaton, who was the country.

1279
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 2: Number seventy seven, the left hand started.

1280
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 4: Another freshman All American, and then he stole uh Juju Lewis,

1281
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 4: who was a longtime USC commit with Lincoln Riley, and

1282
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 4: then the last minute he stole him over. So again

1283
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 4: you mentioned Lincoln Riley on the downhill, just went over

1284
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 4: there and said, Hey, I'm gonna take this quarterback out

1285
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 4: of high school, the number one quarterback in the country.

1286
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 2: So they've got him next year.

1287
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 4: I do think it is kind of weird watching Deon Sanders,

1288
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 4: like I saw his little first meeting without his sons.

1289
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 4: It is a little weird, I mean, because you're so

1290
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 4: used to that in the last couple of years. We've

1291
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 4: seen this run of him the last four seasons. I

1292
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 4: think it will be interesting though, You're right, like, will

1293
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 4: he without his sons? Will he like coaching in college?

1294
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 4: Will he like coaching there? Is he going to move

1295
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 4: his way up? I think it's an interesting perspective.

1296
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 2: But it was just it was.

1297
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: Three of them, right, It was chadeor Shiloh and Travis

1298
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: so his he always had one of them.

1299
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 2: They were always there were always clips of him going on.

1300
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: Like rich Eisen and Travis would be in his in

1301
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: his office stealing a pair of shoes like that's it

1302
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: made probably the job really really fun. It was like,

1303
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: I I listen to someone who lost his dad years ago,

1304
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: Like I always thought that was really cool and like

1305
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: a you know, like the Lebron Brony thing ain't organic.

1306
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: Lebron just I don't blame Lebron used his power, Like

1307
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: the Chador thing was very organic. It's a real player.

1308
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:02,919
Speaker 2: You know, Dion's coaching him.

1309
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: He's one of the best players in the country, and

1310
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: obviously Travis is too, and they've known him forever. Like

1311
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: that had to just be pretty sweet. Now it's you know,

1312
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: like does his relationship with these guys like you know,

1313
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: Kirby and Dabbo and Nick. I think they really relished

1314
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: in the relationship they had with all their elite guys

1315
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: over the years, and then those guys would come back

1316
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: and I think Dion can do that for sure. And

1317
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: the other thing is, and this is where the transfer

1318
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: portal works in his benefit. He can Land, the star

1319
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: left tackle or the next Travis Hunter that he doesn't

1320
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: know growing up but like knows now through football. And

1321
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: if he gets the Florida State job next year or

1322
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 1: you know, pick an SEC job, those guys could just

1323
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: go with him. If I told you he was a

1324
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: Florida State coach next year, don't you think the left

1325
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:48,439
Speaker 1: tackle would come with Dion?

1326
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? Yeah, it'd be less this time.

1327
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: Like who knows, like how many guys? It'd be interesting,

1328
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,959
Speaker 1: Like if he got a sweet job in a year,

1329
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: how many guys from Colorado would he actually bring player wise,

1330
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: because that would be a different one. It was one

1331
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: thing to bring Chador and you know Travis, they would

1332
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 1: have came with him anywhere. But like if he got

1333
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: the Florida job tomorrow, how many guys from this roster

1334
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: would he bring? Obviously there'd be some, but I don't

1335
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 1: think it would be the number in which he brought

1336
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: from Jackson State to Colorado would be Like the left

1337
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: tack would be a no brainer, one of the receiver,

1338
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: you know, some of the guys, but it wouldn't.

1339
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 2: Be like fifty, you know. Yeah, I was gonna say

1340
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 2: maybe under twenty.

1341
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 4: If I had to pick a number because there's guys

1342
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 4: in the roster where you know, they've got some good

1343
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 4: talent obviously that they'll bring back, but they didn't lose

1344
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 4: a ton to the NFL Draft. He doesn't have as

1345
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 4: much ties as he did before if he were to

1346
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 4: move to another college like you mentioned. You mentioned Clemson

1347
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 4: them getting Tom Allen, the defensive coordinator from Penn State.

1348
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 2: That program.

1349
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 4: It's funny how Dabo was made fun of for not

1350
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 4: using the transfer portal and in a blink of an

1351
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 4: eye they win the acc Their quarterback looks phenomenal. Who

1352
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 4: be a top quarterback this next year? Gar Riley looks

1353
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 4: better as an offensive coordinator.

1354
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 2: Now you've got Tom Allen, You've got a lot of

1355
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 2: young talent.

1356
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 4: It's kind of crazy to turn around with Dabo Sweeney

1357
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 4: where it's like we've seen, you know, Ohio State build

1358
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 4: up their team and bring a lot of guys in.

1359
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 4: That's why they're in the National championship. Michigan did the

1360
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 4: same thing, that's why they won the National Championship. Bring

1361
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 4: in a lot of those core guys. Clemson might be

1362
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 4: one of those teams where Dabo may be cooking something up.

1363
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 4: What was your take on him getting Tom Allen because

1364
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 4: they've kind of turned things around.

1365
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, right when I had to look at the guy

1366
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: he fired, and it was this like short, little fat

1367
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 1: white guy that I think it had been, like, you know,

1368
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: it started like an analyst and kind of worked his

1369
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: way up through the program and I think, you know,

1370
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: it was one of those like Dabbo gave him a

1371
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: shot and it clearly you know, I mean, he went

1372
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: from Brett Vannables who had like a ten year run

1373
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 1: which got to be on the short list of one

1374
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: of the better little peak runs in college football history

1375
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: of being a coordinator for high end program and they

1376
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: clearly struggled to kind of figure out the replacement. And

1377
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: the guy I remember looking at him like, I don't

1378
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: know if this guy's recruiting that well. And clearly their

1379
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: defense just wasn't as good. Now I don't know if

1380
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: some of that is as a recruiting not been as elite.

1381
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: It's a harder recruit now in NIL, for sure, I

1382
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 1: thought it was more crazy, like I how does Penn State,

1383
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: Like does James Franklin not want to keep him? Like

1384
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: how can I not offer more money? How can I

1385
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: not offer Micah Parson's abdual Car like, we are getting

1386
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: the cream of the crop here and we're competing. We

1387
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: went farther in that.

1388
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 2: I thought it was kind of weird.

1389
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: I haven't read anything like there was a personal blow up,

1390
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: But why would you like, what the hell's the difference

1391
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: if the money's the same, and it's not like, well,

1392
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 1: he's he's from the South. He's just coaching Indiana, right,

1393
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,959
Speaker 1: so he he's a Midwest coaching the college the Big Ten.

1394
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: Comfortable knows all that, Like, he knows all the personnel.

1395
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: He's been coaching that conference now for a while. Now

1396
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: he's going to a place he doesn't know the players

1397
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: or the coach. Like it's it's more of a challenge.

1398
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 1: If Penn State wanted to keep him, they could, they

1399
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: could pay him.

1400
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 2: I don't know that that.

1401
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: I think that was a little weird. I totally get

1402
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 1: why where Davis Sweeney's coming from. I would have gone

1403
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 1: after him too. But it's like, I'm sure Dabbles Sweeney

1404
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 1: had a short list like Al Golden, Tom Allen, you

1405
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: know the top most of them are like, yeah, I'm

1406
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: staying I can. Why would I leave the dude at Ohio.

1407
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 2: State is crushing it?

1408
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure he called like top ten coordinators in the country.

1409
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:26,959
Speaker 1: One of them said yes, A lot of them probably

1410
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: said no, Man, I don't I make just much here.

1411
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: He's top court, Like Penn State could pay you like

1412
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 1: two and a half million dollars to be their defensive

1413
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: coordinator to can Dabbo.

1414
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 2: But why there's got to be more to that.

1415
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I know that Penn State will lose Abdul Carter,

1416
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 4: but they did. They are bringing him back four or

1417
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 4: five starters from this last so he'scruit the next Abdul

1418
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 4: Carter exactly. And then is it is it a James

1419
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 4: Franklin thing?

1420
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 2: Is it?

1421
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 4: I wonder even know how that conversation began with Tom

1422
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 4: Allen and Dabos Sweeney, Like are they just is it

1423
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 4: just a simple DM saying Hey, you want to come

1424
01:06:58,800 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 4: over here to Clemson?

1425
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 2: Are you to Penn State?

1426
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 4: Like that? That move was super shocking. And now for

1427
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 4: Penn State they're about to have their third DC in

1428
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 4: three years.

1429
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know.

1430
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 1: James Franklin like Dabbo ceo head coaches, but they're both

1431
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 1: offensive guys. So it's like, you know, in theory, you

1432
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 1: get to run definitely Venables, you know, was the head

1433
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: coach of the defense there. I don't know if that's

1434
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: changed since maybe James is kind of more in your

1435
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 1: ass than we realize. Maybe it's maybe it's as simple

1436
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: as that. Again, that's an underrated part about the profession

1437
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: that unless you really have people inside a program or

1438
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 1: an NFL team, it's like, yeah, these two hate each other.

1439
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they do, but that happens way more

1440
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 1: than actually comes out to the public. It's like, I'm

1441
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: just tired of working for this guy, don't I don't

1442
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: like working for this guy, even though on its surface

1443
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: like this has got to be you would say the

1444
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: Penn State defensive coordinator job feels like one of the

1445
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: best assistant coaching jobs in the country given the talent

1446
01:07:58,280 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: that they get on a yearly basis.

1447
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 2: I mean, hell, they've been a.

1448
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: Top ten program for like ten straight years with James Franklin,

1449
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: and it hasn't been because of their offense. You know,

1450
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: it's all their defensive guys.

1451
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 2: So you know, you remove Tyler Warren.

1452
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: And Saquon Barkley, I mean, you think Penn State, you

1453
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: think defense. So I don't know that's maybe there's something

1454
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 1: to be said about easier road.

1455
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 2: It is hard.

1456
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's harder in the Big Ten at the top.

1457
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 1: But that's for sure because I think Clemson would go

1458
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: we're the top where Penn State. I mean, you're clearly

1459
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: chasing Ohio State. And you know even a Oregon's is

1460
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,680
Speaker 1: always gonna have as much, if not more talent, and

1461
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: Michigan should turn it around relatively quick. So maybe, I

1462
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:40,879
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know why you'd care as a coordinator.

1463
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 1: As long as your defense is good, it doesn't matter.

1464
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,799
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a good question. Yeah, it's interesting.

1465
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:49,640
Speaker 2: My last question for you as we wrap this one up.

1466
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 4: When you look back the season as a whole collegeball season,

1467
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 4: a bunch of movement.

1468
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 2: Conference tary alignment, the twelve team.

1469
01:08:56,360 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 4: Playoff, it seems like the sport's getting there. I mean,

1470
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 4: there's a lot of Nixon Cranny's and a lot of

1471
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 4: stuff that people are mad about, but it's one of

1472
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,959
Speaker 4: those things where you know it's year to year basis,

1473
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 4: like let's just get through this and figure out some

1474
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 4: what we need to fix and then go on to

1475
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 4: the next year. If you look back on the season

1476
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 4: as a whole, are you happy. Are you satisfied with

1477
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 4: the college ball season? Like, what would you say is

1478
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 4: your take on reflecting on this new season of the sport.

1479
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: Well, I would say from a popularity standpoint, it's clearly

1480
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 1: the number two sport in America. I mean, it's the

1481
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 1: same sport as the number one one, but it just

1482
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 1: in terms of the ratings.

1483
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 2: How many people.

1484
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 1: Watch the college football is massive. I mean, people were

1485
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 1: mad about eighteen million people watching a Thursday night Penn

1486
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 1: State Notre Dame game. It's like this on Thursday night.

1487
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 1: You're comparing it to people like, well, it's down from

1488
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: last year. Saban versus Harball. Say that again out loud,

1489
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 1: Saban versus Harball, which is one of the better Michigan

1490
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: slash Alabama too, one of the great matchups we've ever

1491
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: seen at the Rose Ball on a holiday. So Thursday night,

1492
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: nineteen million people watching. There will not be nineteen million

1493
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: people like even coming close to watching one single NBA

1494
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: game or baseball game. And we had Dodger Yankees in

1495
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: the World Series. So the sports popularity, because I think

1496
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 1: of the playoff and so many other teams involved now

1497
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: and just how popular football is in general is pretty awesome.

1498
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: So I think the the twelve team playoff deregionalized college

1499
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 1: football a little bit, just made everyone kind of relevant

1500
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 1: and I think helped out the sport. Obviously you got

1501
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,719
Speaker 1: to fix the seating stuff when it comes to playoffs,

1502
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 1: but again that's you could argue the seating. People are

1503
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 1: arguing the seating with the NFL, like is it fair

1504
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 1: that you know a fourteen win team has to go

1505
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 1: on the road. People are gonna complain about whatever. But

1506
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 1: I think as a whole, people should be very, very

1507
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 1: excited for college football, and as it's never been more lucrative.

1508
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: Obviously to be a coach and as a player, it's

1509
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 1: about as good as a guess, right, I mean you're

1510
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 1: given random guys four or five hundred thousand dollars. I

1511
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: just think it's just a great time to be involved

1512
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 1: in college if you love college football. It feels like

1513
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 1: a lot of people have takes and thoughts. I think

1514
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: one thing to keep an eye on. It does feel

1515
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 1: like the quarterback play this year more than questionable, Like

1516
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like there's that many sweet NFL guys.

1517
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 1: Who is gonna be that guy next year? You know,

1518
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 1: there's no like lock of these young stars like Riola

1519
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 1: kind of let down the hype on Arch. How's he

1520
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 1: ever gonna live up to it? Lincoln Riley doesn't have

1521
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:36,919
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Who's Georgia's quarterback?

1522
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 2: You know?

1523
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: Oregon the what's his name? Dante Moore who started at

1524
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,600
Speaker 1: UCLA who's now at Oregon might be their starter. I

1525
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 1: saw some of his teammates were hyping him up like

1526
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 1: get ready, and maybe he is, but I think there

1527
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 1: are a lot of question marks. That'd be my one

1528
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: negative with college football is just there's a lot of

1529
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: question marks at quarterback. I know they are a sweet

1530
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 1: wide receivers, sweet pass rush, a lot of other good positions.

1531
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 1: Obviously this year the year of the running back, Like

1532
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 1: where are my next couple of years of Lamar Jackson's

1533
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 1: and just Baker Mayfields and just star quarterbacks, because that's

1534
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 1: what you say right now, Like two best teams in

1535
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: the country have like mid round guys who are likable

1536
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 1: and eat fun to watch, but neither one of them

1537
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna get their name called and.

1538
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 2: Hug Roger Goodell on the stage. That helps, no, you.

1539
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 1: Know, if you think about it, like when your star

1540
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are on your best teams, you know, Alabama had that,

1541
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 1: LSU had that. Even that's why Carson Beck kind of

1542
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: built up because he was on the best team and

1543
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 1: he didn't live up to it in yours. But can

1544
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 1: we get some top guys are gonna go in the

1545
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: top fifteen. I mean, look at last year Pennix National Championship.

1546
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 1: Bo Knicks on one of the best teams. Caleb Williams

1547
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 1: was at USC LSU had a disastrous season. They went

1548
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 1: nine to three with Jane Daniels and he won the Heisman.

1549
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: So like, I can live with a Drake may on

1550
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 1: a crappier team, but I like a couple of my

1551
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to go in the first round on top five

1552
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 1: ten teams. And now with the expanded playoff, can you

1553
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: imagine if you've got a couple guys like this guy's

1554
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 1: gonna go in the top ten in the draft and

1555
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 1: not like one of those drew alers, like hey could

1556
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: if you no, like, this guy's a lock to be

1557
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: drafted high. We almost had it with cam Ward but

1558
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: Miami fell apart. That's the one thing to keep an

1559
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: eye on, just the quarterback play, and maybe because the

1560
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 1: movement it's so chaotic, it's hard to you just never know.

1561
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 2: We'll have some like out of the blue guys.

1562
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you'll get the next Joe Burrow

1563
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 1: that no one's talking about.

1564
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 2: But I don't feel confident about that right now. Yeah,

1565
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of some guys next year.

1566
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 4: But we even heading into this year, we thought the

1567
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 4: quarterback play was gonna be better. We had Carson Beck

1568
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:42,560
Speaker 4: up there, we had quinn Ewers and they kind of

1569
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 4: let things down. So even looking at next season, where

1570
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 4: you know, Nico, how does he do at Tennessee?

1571
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 2: How does d J. Lagway do at Florida? How does

1572
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 2: Club Nick do?

1573
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: Like?

1574
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of guys where you do

1575
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 4: have question marks. You're right, I love the amount of

1576
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,839
Speaker 4: attention the sports brought. I do miss the PAC twelve dearly,

1577
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 4: the PAC twelve after dark. That was the one thing

1578
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 4: with the whole movement and stuff like that. Then moving

1579
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 4: on what was tough to watch, but it's pretty sweet

1580
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 4: watching Oregon and USC and the Big Ten. It is

1581
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 4: pretty sweet watching what Arizona State was able to do

1582
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 4: in the Big twelve, and you know the different conference

1583
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 4: real alignments and stuff.

1584
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 2: Like that too. I think the sport's only gonna get

1585
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 2: bigger and better.

1586
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 4: I think that, you know, people even making a mockery

1587
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,640
Speaker 4: of the twelve team playoff in the first round on

1588
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 4: how they were blowouts, And now you look at the

1589
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 4: two teams left in the playoff, it's Ohio State, Notre

1590
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 4: Dame and a twelve in a fourteen model. Neither of

1591
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,799
Speaker 4: those teams would be planned for it. Both suffered really

1592
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 4: bad losses, which is also what's great for the sport too,

1593
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 4: is the drama of the parody week to week, the

1594
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 4: amount of upsets we saw during you know, the season,

1595
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 4: Like i'man even thinking back to Week zero in Ireland

1596
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 4: when Georgia Tech beat Florida State and looking back on

1597
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 4: that now looking here today with Notre Dame, Ohio State,

1598
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 4: it's a pretty crazy year.

1599
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 1: Man.

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01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,640
Speaker 4: It's it's a fun sport and it's cool that we

1601
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 4: get to, you know, the college football has talked about

1602
01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 4: a lot more like you were talking about it, like

1603
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 4: even Coward talking about it on his show. Like I

1604
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 4: can't remember a time even growing up where you turn

1605
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 4: on the television first Take or whatever show you watch

1606
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 4: and college football is being involved.

1607
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 2: In the same conversation as the NFL.

1608
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, the biggest story next year and it's

1609
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,719
Speaker 1: not even gonna be close is gonna be Arch Manning.

1610
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 1: And it's just that, I mean, Peyton Manning is one

1611
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: of the biggest, most famous athletes of my life. He's

1612
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: obviously one of the best quarterbacks in the history of

1613
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:27,600
Speaker 1: the league. His family name, I mean, Eli B. Belichick

1614
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 1: twice is obviously a famous figure in the NFL history.

1615
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:34,680
Speaker 1: It's and I'm nervous that it's gonna be hard, like

1616
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 1: it could get weird, like the chances that he's gonna

1617
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:41,600
Speaker 1: be like he's actually like Cooper Flag of football. You know,

1618
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, we'll see and I'm rooting

1619
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 1: for him.

1620
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 2: I want her to be sweet.

1621
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 1: But I think that the hype on him and the

1622
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 1: eyeballs on his games, it's one thing, like he started

1623
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 1: a couple games this year right when you weers got hurt,

1624
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 1: but it wasn't quite the same. You knew the other

1625
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 1: guy who's gonna come back, Like it's his team. So

1626
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be by far the lead store

1627
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 1: Like arch Manning. Can he become like a star in

1628
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 1: college football and become an NFL player and everyone even

1629
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 1: if you're not a huge college football fan, is gonna

1630
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 1: pay attention to that. He's at Texas. They're now in

1631
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,680
Speaker 1: the SEC, so like that's I mean, they're playing in

1632
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 1: the biggest games. We want to see what, you know,

1633
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 1: how their schedule kind of plays out, but it's there's

1634
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of eyeballs on that guy. So

1635
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 1: I I I'm excited for you got Peyton go into

1636
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 1: the games with with Eli and Cooper. It's gonna be

1637
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about people talking about that. I

1638
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 1: mean NFL shows, my show. I mean, everyone's gonna be

1639
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: paying attention to that, good or bad, and hopefully it's

1640
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 1: I don't want it to be bad.

1641
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 2: Hopefully it goes well.

1642
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 4: Do you know who they play Week one next year

1643
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 4: or Texas Michigan at Ohio State. Welcome to the big

1644
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 4: League's arch? Yeah, they got at Ohio State. Then they've

1645
01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 4: got some really tough games home against San Jose State,

1646
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 4: eight home against UTEP bye week home against Sam Houston.

1647
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 4: Then you've got at Florida, You've got Red River at

1648
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 4: Kentucky at Mississippi State home against Vanderbilt. Then you wrap

1649
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 4: up at Georgia home against Arkansas home against A and

1650
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 4: m SO at Georgia, obviously red River at Florida they're

1651
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 4: gonna be a top fifteen team next year, and then

1652
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 4: Ohio State that first week, so they've got some tough

1653
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 4: games and that that's another a team next year, where

1654
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 4: it's like if Sark can't get it done next season,

1655
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 4: maybe the year after that because Anthony Hill junior, their

1656
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 4: stud linebackers probably gonna go to the draft. And you

1657
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 4: think about Colin Simmons, like some of those guys that

1658
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 4: they've been hyping up. The younger talent next year is

1659
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 4: gonna be a big You're right, arch Manning and even

1660
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 4: Sark alone, that's gonna be arch Manning fors Ohio State.

1661
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 1: There's there're gonna be a lot of people watching that game.

1662
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 1: That'll do twenty million people week one. I can you

1663
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: say that game's in Texas.

1664
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 2: It's at Ohio State, Jesus unless it turns into like

1665
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 2: a new Neutrol site game.

1666
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 4: But what I look right now, it says at Ohio State,

1667
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 4: and that same week it's Notre Dame Miami, So you're

1668
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 4: gonna have Carson Beck Miami versus Notre Dame.

1669
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 2: So we'll buckle up, well, Jackson.

1670
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 1: Good luck to your Irish tonight and I will talk

1671
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 1: to you soon, buddy.

1672
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:20,799
Speaker 2: Appreciate you go Irish Man. Thanks the volume.