WEBVTT - 🎙️ Luke Hawx Part 2 – A Stone Cold opportunity🎙️ 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:12.559 M h, you're listening to Eyes up here with ec 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:16.560 govern one of those Queen of Extreme Francine only on 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:17.239 iHeart rate. 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:34.199 So so get. 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:41.360 Back to the season three hopefully hopefully yet no, so 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:44.800 like it's it looks like everybody, just go on Netflix, 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:48.080 turn your Netflix on, go the heels, press play. 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:50.120 You can watch it again, or you can walk. 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:50.360 Out the room. 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:52.400 Just let it keep playing, give it two thousand up 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:54.000 and let it keep playing. Let her keep getting the 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:58.160 views and hopefully the triggers for season three. 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.800 You know, petition, there's something we can sign up. 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:04.000 I mean, people are just on Twitter. It's Twitter people 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:07.200 you have, you know, hitting up the nettlects Halftag. You know, 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:08.320 he's season three. 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:10.920 So it's good. 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:13.520 You know, we got a lot of great cameos and 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:15.560 then maybe we can get you in season three. You know, 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:17.160 Oh my god, I'm serious. 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:19.160 Look I have I have, I. 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:22.520 Go after everybody. My job is when I get a script. 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:25.080 My job is, you know, I hire a lot of 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:27.600 people as well. I'm fortunate to be in that position. 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:30.920 But it's not a friend thing. Most people do friends 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.160 with What I do is how it's supposed to be done. 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:34.880 You get a script and then you break the script 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:37.160 down who fits to write characters? 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:37.360 Right? 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:37.920 Who? Who? 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:38.520 You know? 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:40.920 It might say some characters that might say, look, I. 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:45.759 Need a an African American tall than six foot three 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.880 for this role, but we need, you know, a redhead 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:52.800 male under six foot Some things are very descriptive. Some 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:55.280 things might just say male of any age and a race, 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:57.720 you know whatever. So, like my job is, once I 0:01:57.760 --> 0:01:59.840 get those scripts and I get those positions, I go, okay, 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:02.760 who would who do I know who would do a 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:06.440 really well job at this and fifth this description? And 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.399 then from there I go, okay, Frandy, hey, I got 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.200 this audition. I got this character. I want you to 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:14.520 audition for. This is what I need from you. Let 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:16.120 me send it to you. You get me the audition, 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:17.800 send it back to me. And then I go to 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:19.959 the director and I say, look, I skipped the line. 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:21.880 I skip all the lines and every thing. I go, hey, 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:25.160 look it, check this person out. This is my buddy. 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:27.080 They're really good blah blah blah, you know. 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:29.720 And the cool thing is. 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:33.920 Uh, you know, most of the time, like on so 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:37.320 I do it on several projects, but like Keels was 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.040 one of and the ones where most of the time they. 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:42.079 Were just like, yeah, brand whoever you want. They trusted me, 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.880 so they were like, hey, we have one hundred percent 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:46.840 faith in it, so whoever you think is right for 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.880 these I had Steven Richards double and some guys, you know, 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:52.880 I had uh. 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:57.360 Yeah, Doc Dallos was there, Jordan Grace was there, Savannah Evans, 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:04.440 Nick Nick h uh Damn General Manter smack, oh wow, 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:08.720 Nick all said, I mean I like, uh like, and 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:10.840 then obviously a ton of wildcat guys. 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:11.840 I had so many people. 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.640 I always try to interact with different people, and uh, 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.320 I had Tommy, you know, Dreamer came and Dreamer did 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:21.280 audition for a role. We had Fowie there d DP 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:23.760 auditions for some like we had a lot of auditions, 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:27.200 you know, uh, several guys, but like you know, some 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.760 do well, some do some obviously not so well because 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:31.760 they're not actors. But but it's cool to be able 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:34.680 to provide those opportunities and and be be able to 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:39.400 add the authentic, the authenticity of having real wrestlers in 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:40.520 the show, right. 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:42.000 Right, And that's what I'd like to be able to 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.720 like that. There was one scene towards the end I 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:48.040 think the season two were like all the heels. You 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:52.040 guys were all in the ring. I think who else 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:56.480 was with you? Aaron Stevens, Yeah, Aaron's Aaron was there 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.040 and like I was looking down and I was like, 0:03:59.080 --> 0:03:59.720 I know that person. 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:00.400 I know that person. 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.120 I know that person, and you're real workers, you know 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:06.680 what I mean? And not need it cool? It just 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:08.200 felt really you know what I mean? 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.960 This was good for me on that is like, so 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:16.320 I'm a stuntman, okay, you know professionally, I've been a 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:17.960 stuntman for twenty years. 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:19.200 I love it stunts. 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.160 I had the utmost respect for it. 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:22.600 It's very difficult to do. 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:27.119 It's a very unforgiven career. It's also a very unloving career. 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:29.279 Like when I was coming up. This is why people 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:32.640 didn't realize that THEYD movies. When I was coming up, 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.480 it was taboo to like show your face and. 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.080 Be like you either a stuntman or an actor. You 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:38.960 couldn't be both. 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.400 So so it was like if you were trying to 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:44.520 be an actor, they would kind of shun you off 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:46.880 the business because you were just like, you know, through 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:50.479 through and you're disrespecting the stunt guys to try and 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.680 get to another position. Basically and with the stunt guys do, 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.040 they put their lives on the line and they get 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:57.599 none of the credit they get. 0:04:57.640 --> 0:04:59.960 They get paid well, but they get none of the credit. 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:02.600 So like I and I knew this because I would 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:03.560 I would like do a. 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:05.719 Stunt like early on and I'd be on like a 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:07.800 car doing sixty miles an hour on the roof of 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:11.080 a car and I'm barely scrapped in and it's dangerous, right, 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:13.320 and you know, we fish chailing down the streets. 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:15.599 And then all of a sudden, you go and see 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:16.479 an actor get. 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.200 On there and he's doing like five miles now and 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.039 they're just doing his facial shot. You know, they're just 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.080 doing a close up on his face. And then you 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.200 go see him do an interview after and he's like, yeah, man, 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.000 I do all my own sons. I was on top 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:28.480 of the car and you. 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.920 And you're like you full of shit mother, Like you 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:33.120 wouldn't even get on the car. You were scared. You 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.640 were scared while the car was rolling dog the car 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.440 was doing five miles an hour, you were scared. But 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:41.240 you know what right now, But it's all bullshit. It's 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:45.839 all bullshit, That's what I'm saying. Man, I forget the 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:46.679 guy's name. 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:48.159 But I don't see you in trouble. 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:49.360 No, I won't get in trouble. 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:51.479 I mean, it wasn't not bad, but it's just it's 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:53.880 like anything else. People were full of shit, and people lie, 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.720 and you know, and sometimes that's your job sometimes, and 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.280 I don't mind when that's your job. Like back then, 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:02.240 like I I got, I got in with the grind, 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:04.039 and I was cool with that because I was making 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.640 good money. I had health insurance. You know, it provided 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:10.039 me with opportunities. But I wanted to be a star, 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:12.440 like I was still looking for that start. But I 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.080 couldn't step on these toes, you know, I want. I 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.400 wanted that stardom that I wanted to wrestling. I wanted 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:19.280 to act. I wanted to, but you know, I had 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:20.920 a good career with stunt so I wasn't going to 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.080 take a risk of like screwing up my stock career 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.520 to try and be an actor. And what had happened 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:29.760 was I just kept getting thrown opportunities. 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:31.440 And uh, I was I was thinking about this yesterday. 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:31.640 I was. 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:34.480 I was watching Jamie Fox's specially, and Jamie Fox threw 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:35.560 me a big opportunity. 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:37.760 But I'll tell you that story real quick. 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.320 But like I was, what happened is I would get 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:42.960 thrown an opportunity and I'd be in this position and 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:46.400 they go, oh, damn well, getting the scene. 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.159 This kind of dead. We need some lines right here? 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:50.680 Can you just hear say this? And then all of 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:51.560 a sudden you got some. 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.680 Dialogue and got a line and then they're like, oh, 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.920 you said that pretty comfortably and you're like. 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.200 Yeah, no, ship, dude, I'm on camera all the time. 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.080 Like I don't you know, I'm not I'm not your 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:05.640 typical you know dude, just trying to get on cameras. 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:07.479 So like I went to I trained for this ship. 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:08.880 I go to school, I take classes. 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:14.480 So long story short, you know, people started like they'd 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:18.000 have these stunt acting roles and like in Fast, Infurious 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:19.640 and things like that, and like they would want a 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:21.880 stunt guy. They would want to hire a stunt guy 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.000 for the actor because I would involve a big stunt, 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.000 so they wanted somebody who could do both so they 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.240 wouldn't have to hire a stunt guy in so they 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:29.440 wouldn't have to hire an actor. 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:32.200 And then it's double right because it's hard. 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:35.880 Yeah, sometimes it's hard to find doubles exact sizes and 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:37.960 especially bigger guys, muscular guys and. 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:38.520 Stuff like that. 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.720 So they took me, you know, and they started going, okay, 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.320 well we can put you in those roles. And I 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.840 started doing those roles and started knocking them out. And 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:49.120 I remember there's a movie called. 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:54.960 Project Tower on Netflix and it's a Jammie Fox film, 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.880 and I got I got hired on that as a 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:00.000 as a stunt driver. So I was I was doing 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.239 some stunt driving scenes on it, and all those scenes 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:03.560 got cut. They didn't even make the movie. 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:04.560 Because they changed some of the stuff. 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:05.280 But it was fine. 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:09.040 Like so I went and driving, and then we wrote 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.160 the script and they said, hey, we changed some things. 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:12.720 We want to bring you back and put you in 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:17.520 this little scene, uh, towards the towards the ending of 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.040 the film. And I was like, well, you probably seen 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.720 me on camera burned already driving. They're like, no, all that, 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.000 we're not using none of that. So so like you 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:28.960 you're clear to go for this other scene a different character, right. 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:32.480 So I'm like okay, cool. So I go in and 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:35.559 you know, we do the first walk through. 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:37.760 It's like, okay, Jamie's gonna be on this side. You're 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:40.520 gonna be on this side. Y'all gonna catch eyes at 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:44.920 each other across the room, your pitch set and uh, 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:46.520 y'all there, I'm sorry. 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:47.400 I hit my buddy. 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:48.079 That's it. 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.560 I think I hit. I didn't hear you. 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:51.800 It just sounds different now. 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:57.120 But you're fine, ship, So hold on, sorry, are you good? 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:02.200 It's good. 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:03.920 I'm trying to bring it back up. 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:05.360 No, you're good, you're good. 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:10.000 I just lost my headset. I hit my button in 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:10.360 my ear. 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.640 But they're like, oh, you and Jamie are gonna lock 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.160 eyes from across the room. You know, you'll touch your 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.920 headset signal like you're talking to somebody on your headset, 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.960 and then y'all come over here and you're gonna have altercation. 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:25.920 You're gonna kill you. And I'm like, okay, cool. 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.599 So we do the first walk through and it was 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.960 a little stale, and the second unit director comes up 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:35.600 to me and he says, hey, that just needs to 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.360 be some kind of interaction right here. It's so stale, 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:40.360 like you just need to say something to him and like, 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.240 you know, have have some kind of altercation with him. 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:46.240 So this is where you know, uh, you know, what 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:51.560 I'm said, living comes in so so I didn't I 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:52.960 mean off the slip of my tongue. 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:54.520 Right, Like, we walk, we do. 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:56.040 The thing, we go through the scene, I hit my 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.679 headset we walk up, and as we walk up, I go, 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:03.760 are you new here? And he goes, nah, nah, I've 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:05.600 been here, but uh look they got some people on 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:07.760 this list that ain't supposed to be in here. And 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:10.599 I said yeah, like who He goes like you and 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:12.200 he grasps my head and shoves it, and it was 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:16.280 all like none of this was planned out, like we legit, 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:21.280 like just just freestyled everything right, and and then as 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:24.920 soon as they yell cut not the second union director, 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:29.600 the actual director comes over there and goes, why did 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:30.520 you say something? 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:32.440 You don't have any lines right now. 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:34.679 I was told by the other second union director to 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:38.120 say something, but but you're not gonna argue in that position. 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.360 I just I wouldn't have said, oh I was told 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:43.600 to say something. I just say I apologize, it won't 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:47.920 happen again. But before I could even say anything, Jamie goes. 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.520 Nah, that shit's good, bro lead that in. Let's run 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:50.959 it back. 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:53.800 And then director goes, you cool with it, and Jamie's like, yeah, yeah, 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:56.120 let's run that back, and director goes, you remember what 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:56.559 you said? 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.000 I was like, yeah, it was a simple couple of lines. 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.000 I'm like and like okay, So like. 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:02.800 Now all of a sudden, I got an acting role 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:04.280 out of that, right, it was just supposed to be 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.600 a stunt roll was turned into an acting role, and 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:08.319 now I'm an actor on the show. And now I 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:10.280 got a relationship with Jane. I mean, I'm not friends 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:11.760 with him, but like it was cool. But like, like 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:13.960 I worked with him for like a month, and he 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:15.920 looked out for me. He had fun being around when 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:16.320 you know. 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:16.600 What I mean. 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:21.760 He he had the opportunity to shine some light and 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.640 give some light to me, and he could have easily 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:26.640 just said, Noah, screw this, dude. 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:28.760 You know what I mean. Like, like, but like I'm 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:32.559 cool with those experiences because I've had enough bad ones. 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:36.480 While I was around somebody who was a higher up, Shane, 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.680 When me and Shane hated each other for years, you know, 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.320 like we had a legit heat of few and he 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:43.520 was my favorite wrestler. 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:45.280 But when I worked with x p W, we had 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:45.840 big father. 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:47.600 And I had this chip on my shoulder where I 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:50.480 hated him because of the way like our interactions, because 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.520 I had looked up to him so much, you know, 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.440 so like and and me being the guy that I was, 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.800 I was a fighter, so like just because I liked you, 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:03.160 I wasn't gonna be disrespected. So when all that stuff 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.640 happened with Shane, you know, I was going, I was 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:06.600 legit on crazy. 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:07.839 I wanted to beat him up. I was like, when 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:09.640 I see him, I'm going to beat him up. 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.720 So wait, that was when I when I when I 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:15.000 introduced myself to Luke he and I said, you know 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.040 I met him once before through Shane. He said, is 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:20.040 this when he and I were good or when he 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:20.719 and I were not? 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:22.640 Like I wasn't aware of that? 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:24.600 Was it? Because he would not put. 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.920 You over, well not so much put me over. It 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:33.320 wasn't wrestling. It was like I had seen some things, you. 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:37.360 Know, like like again you find out like this is 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:38.440 just being honest. 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:42.280 I was a mark so like some of the things. 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:46.680 Yeah, we're all marks, so like so so like you know, 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:50.120 and then look, I grew up differently, like I said, 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.439 like I grew up rough, I grew. 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.160 Up around, I grew up around a. 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.880 Lot of drugs and like like I didn't get involved 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:00.080 with any of that stuff. So like my whole my 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:03.120 whole life was like completely fucked because of it. I 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:06.320 mean overdoses all the time, Like like it ruined, Like 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:10.200 everything in my life was ruined because of my family's Look, 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.040 my brother shot my my nephew shot my brother six times, 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:16.000 like two months ago. Like my my whole family is 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:19.040 white trash, like low bottom of the barrel. I'm the 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:20.880 only person in my family with high school di poma. 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:22.880 I'm the only one like that. Like that makes like 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:24.480 a normal, normal person. 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:28.160 It's crazy. So I mean that's because I went into 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:28.920 a boys home stuff. 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.080 But like so like when I worked with xp W 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.440 and like Shane was bad on the pills then and 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:35.400 I seen that, and like the way they those guys 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.599 would treat me because I wasn't nobody then, you know, 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:39.480 I was trying to make my name and they were stars. 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.520 They treated me like I was down here, and just 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.800 because I was down there, I didn't I wasn't gonna 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:48.520 be treated like that, so so you know, and and 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:50.559 to be honest, like there's other ways I could have 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.600 probably went around it. I didn't look at things like 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:55.640 the way they looked at me. They see a young, 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:57.160 small guy with no potential. 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:58.400 They didn't look at me. It's just sick. 0:13:58.400 --> 0:13:59.920 It would have been different if I was six three, 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:01.400 two hundred and fifty punds. The would have been like, 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:02.559 this guy's got potential. 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:04.440 You know. They looked at me like this guy's not 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:05.800 gonna be around in six months. 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.600 And I understand that, but I understand why, right, So 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:14.200 so I understand that. So I let my aggression and 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:18.120 my attitude in my street life get the better of 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:22.160 me back then. And I don't regret it because like 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:25.480 it made people not play with me. But what I 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:28.120 what I do regret is like I wish I would 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:31.800 have had some guidance from older guys to say, hey, 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:33.480 look we do things like this. 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.520 I never had guidance, and no, everybody. 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.680 Would just say fuck him instead of taking me sid no, no, no, 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:40.280 he just needs to be taught something or hey, he 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:42.840 needs to be shown something like and every now and 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.160 then there'd be somebody who would treat me well. And 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:47.720 like I had like good experiences with like Jamie on that, 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.040 you know, like Jamie could have just said, man, yeah, 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.920 screw this guy, he's a stunt guy now. But Jamie 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.040 was like, no, this is gold bro lead, this dude's 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:56.560 good like lead that in you know what I mean, 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:57.240 Let's run it. 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:59.560 Did that lead you to getting a credit as an 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:01.240 actor on that species? 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.040 Yeah? Yeah, So like I went from being a stunt 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:04.280 guy to an actor on Yeah. 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:07.560 You know, that's a great story. The Shane's story not 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:10.440 so great. That makes me upset, but like you said, 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.320 he was in a bad spot. Not I'm not trying 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:18.920 to you know, uh justify it or anything, but people, but. 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:20.000 We talked about all that. 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:23.680 We squashed it, you know, like like like you know, 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:24.960 years later, we. 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.880 Were in Philly and uh, you know it was Girdner. 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:30.920 Girdner Meanie and we were at one of the signings 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:34.760 and uh and Gardner said, you know, man, you and 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:35.480 Shane could. 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:37.560 Make some money if y'all would just work together. And 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.040 I said, you know me, Bro, I would work with him. 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.160 But like, I'm not, I'm not I'm not kissing on 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:44.680 these dudes' asses. Bro, I'm like, I'm not bound down 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.680 like they got it. I didn't do nothing to these dudes. 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:50.640 I was always respected. I was just a young mark 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:53.040 that that one, you know, I used that term loosely. 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:56.720 But I was a young fan who loved the business, 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:01.320 and you gotta understand, this was my only way out. 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:05.120 This was my way out of this really, really bad 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:09.240 life that I had. So, you know, like I was, 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.400 alls I had was passion for this because I didn't 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:15.920 have nothing else in life. So if this failed, I 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:17.600 could have probably just stuck a gun in my mouth 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:20.200 for real. I mean, that's just the truth. You don't 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:24.800 want to hear that, but it's like, when you have nothing, legit, nothing, 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:27.560 what do you have to look forward to? 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:30.400 Right, So it's like I had to and I was 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:31.600 just taught. 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.600 I was always told don't take no for an answer, 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:38.200 don't take no for an answer. 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:39.560 So I was always told no. 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.120 So I just had to figure out, let me prove myself, 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:43.880 Let me prove myself, Let me prove myself. 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.000 I'm ranting, but I mean that's just how it was. 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.960 And people need to hear this because there might be 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:53.440 somebody listening that feels like you did back in the 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:55.280 day and now look at you. 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:57.720 There's a lot of people, you know, there's a lot 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:58.800 of people who go through. 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.800 It listening to this pod cast because I don't I 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:02.880 don't know how many people listen. We'd like to think 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.879 millions and millions, millions probably, But you're you could be 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.760 helping somebody right now by telling your story. So it's 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:12.720 not a rant. It's something that needs to be heard. 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.920 And it makes me happy because look how great you 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:19.120 turned out, and look how you're doing, like you said, 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:24.119 for your community, for other wrestlers, for other actors, for me, 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:28.520 because I'm enjoying Heals so much. It needs to come 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:30.520 back for season three. I'm going to get on that 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.640