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Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Catch twenty two Podcasts with Evan

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Speaker 1: Lazar and Alex Barth. I'm Lazar Lazar. Hello, everybody nailed,

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Speaker 1: It's joined us always buy ours bar David Match. Here

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Speaker 1: is Evan Lazar and Alex Barrs. Dolphins fans hate they

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Speaker 1: do they. I think they hate me more than Bill's

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Speaker 1: fans too. They really do, Yes, they do. How's it going? Everybody?

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Speaker 1: Welcome into a brand new Catch twenty two podcast, Little

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Speaker 1: different voice opening the show. It's Alex Barth in the

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Speaker 1: host chair this week with Evan Lazar out in the desert.

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Speaker 1: Evan is still here though with us via some sort

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Speaker 1: of zoom thing. Evan say, Hi, so the hie. How

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Speaker 1: you're going? It's called WebEx, Alex, our great friends at WebEx.

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Speaker 1: Our good friends at WebEx bringing us Evan from uh,

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Speaker 1: you're is it tempt You're tempy? Right? Tucson? Yeah, Arizona

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Speaker 1: at Arizona State, where the Patriots are this week, obviously

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Speaker 1: getting ready to take on the Las Vegas Raiders. It's

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Speaker 1: the West coast trip. They played the Cardinals Monday night

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Speaker 1: and we'll touch on that game to start. They'll stay

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Speaker 1: out there, they'll practice this week. They've done this before.

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Speaker 1: They did it in LA in twenty twenty in between

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Speaker 1: games with the Chargers and the Rams. They did it.

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Speaker 1: It was it twenty sixteen that they were out at

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Speaker 1: the Air Force Academy in Colorado, Colorado. Yeah, they had

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Speaker 1: a game against I believe it was the then San

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Speaker 1: Diego Chargers and they actually they stayed out there to

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Speaker 1: get used to the elevation to go down to Mexico

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Speaker 1: City to play. And that one was also the Raiders

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Speaker 1: on the second half. So a little travel history there

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Speaker 1: for you from the Patriots. That's what happens when I

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Speaker 1: hosted the show. But Evan Patriots beat the Cardinals twenty

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Speaker 1: seven thirteen on Monday Night football. Get back above five hundred,

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Speaker 1: Get back into when I say into the playoff picture,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know they at the end of that game,

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Speaker 1: they're back in a playoff seed, the seventh seed in

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Speaker 1: the AFC. Right now, they are in the driver's seat,

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Speaker 1: so to speak. They control their own destiny, a playoff

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Speaker 1: spot here with four games remaining. And it was an

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Speaker 1: ugly win, but at this time of year, wins a win,

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Speaker 1: and I think to a certain extent, that's kind of

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Speaker 1: what this game was all about they wanted how they

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Speaker 1: had to. Yeah, it's a great way of putting it

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Speaker 1: because I think at this point in the season, and

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure we're going to get to that here

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Speaker 1: in a second, but all these things of why do

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Speaker 1: they do this, why do they do that? At this point,

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Speaker 1: I think the team and even us to a degree,

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Speaker 1: have to look at it and say that they just

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Speaker 1: got to get w's right, like, anyway that they can

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Speaker 1: to get wins and to keep pace in the AFC.

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Speaker 1: They now have the Chargers right there with them, the

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Speaker 1: Jets right there with them. They're one game back of Miami.

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Speaker 1: So if you care to dream, there is a path

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Speaker 1: for the Patriots to get up to potentially the sixth

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Speaker 1: seed or even the fifth seed if they can beat

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Speaker 1: the Bengals in a head to head matchup, which I

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Speaker 1: think we're really dreaming now. But let's just let's just

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Speaker 1: be dreamers, right, I mean, there is a path here.

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Speaker 1: It's all laid out in front of them. Whether or

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Speaker 1: believe in them as a team, we can just talk

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Speaker 1: but mathematically this is not this kind of math. Is

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Speaker 1: this is different? Yeah, Mathematically that the path is right

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Speaker 1: think is really where you go to die, right because

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Speaker 1: are going to be one and done football team. But

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Speaker 1: I think is more winnable, especially if they play Baltimore

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Speaker 1: but Evan, you tweeted out the numerical value to put

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Speaker 1: context to the discussion. Twelve screen passes. That's a career

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Speaker 1: Did you have the number like in the Belichick era

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Speaker 1: seven screens was the high last year for mac Jones

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Speaker 1: I actually I actually undersold it. It's forty nine screens

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Speaker 1: forty nine in six weeks. Right, they're averaging more screens

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Speaker 1: first three weeks of the year. So they have completely

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Speaker 1: I actually think that there's some sound logic to it.

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Speaker 1: super conservative, there's no doubt. Yeah, I mean they've overcorrected.

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Speaker 1: They've gone from overly overly aggressive to overly overly conservative.

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Speaker 1: And I will get into maybe what was more frustrating

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Speaker 1: because at a certain point, like there's another rough game

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Speaker 1: for the offensive line, it was another rough game for

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Speaker 1: I think offensive line is the hardest position. Deficiency to

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Speaker 1: deficiency at offensive line than is a quarterback. But how

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Speaker 1: can you mitigate that? Well, screens are a big part

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Speaker 1: did make sense for them to throw a bunch of screens.

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Speaker 1: Now they could mix in other mechanics that also helps

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Speaker 1: slow down a pass rush naturally. That's RPOs. That's play action,

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Speaker 1: which they didn't do a lot of. I don't have

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Speaker 1: That's draws are another one that can kind of upset

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Speaker 1: that timing. That's running from under center instead of out

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Speaker 1: that in screening in this game. Like I don't hate

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Speaker 1: the concept of throwing a lot of screens, the one

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Speaker 1: thing I would say is you maybe look for a

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Speaker 1: little more variation within the screens. And they were better

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Speaker 1: at forty nine screen passes in the last six weeks, correct,

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Speaker 1: that's almost one hundred screen looks. Because you got to

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Speaker 1: figure every screen pass they call is actually two mechanics,

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Speaker 1: because it's the pump one way and then turn and

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Speaker 1: the mix of that as well, where there's a run

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Speaker 1: and a screen element. So here's the thing I think

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Speaker 1: at this point is a clear anchor to the entire action.

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Speaker 1: They need to coach around, right, They just need to

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Speaker 1: coach around it. There's nothing that they can do. There's

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Speaker 1: no nobody's walking through that door. Matt light Logan, Makan's

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Speaker 1: like Nate Solder even is not walking through the door.

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Speaker 1: So it's a problem at this point, correct. So this

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Speaker 1: ball in his hand. He made things happen. Kendrick Boorne

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Speaker 1: got the ball in his hands. He made things happen.

431
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: Pierre Strong got the ball in his hands. He made

432
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Speaker 1: things happen. To go back to something we talked about earlier,

433
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Speaker 1: Evan with the offensive line. If the offensive line is

434
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Speaker 1: going to struggle, how do you coach around that? How

435
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: do you scheme around that where you can still operate offensively?

436
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: And we talked about RPOs. We talked about screens. Is

437
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: that a common theme and a lot of that is

438
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Speaker 1: getting the ball in the hands of guys who can

439
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Speaker 1: create after the catch, because that way the quarterback can

440
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Speaker 1: still get the ball out of his hands quickly and

441
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 1: you have a chance for a big play. And the

442
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: guys on this team that are going to do the

443
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Speaker 1: most after the catch or Ramondre Stevenson, Kendrick Bourne, Taekwon Thornton,

444
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Speaker 1: and I think Pierre Strong would probably be the fourth

445
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Speaker 1: one on that day, and Marcus Jones obviously and so

446
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: so yeah, then there's the whole Marcus Jones angle. I

447
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 1: kind of put him in his own category because you can't.

448
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: You can't play him twenty snaps and game on offense.

449
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: He just can't do it, especially now with Jack Jones

450
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: banged up, Jalen Mills banged up. I think they're depth

451
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Speaker 1: in corner right. Yeah, it would, it would help them

452
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Speaker 1: pay more. And this is gonna be why in the

453
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Speaker 1: offseason I'm gonna say Corners low key a big need

454
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Speaker 1: because it will free up Marcus Jones to play more

455
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball. But he I

456
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Speaker 1: just put him in a little bit. Yes, you're right,

457
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,479
Speaker 1: he's good after the catch and he's somebody who can

458
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: factor into this, but I just don't. He can't play

459
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: quite as many snaps because you two need him on defense.

460
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 1: And it goes back into what I talked about with Stevenson.

461
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: You don't want to burn the guy out right now,

462
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 1: That just wouldn't wouldn't be good for anybody. So look

463
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: to me what you just said about. They need to

464
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: They can't get away from this, right And I think

465
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Speaker 1: the biggest thing that I would mention is that, on

466
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Speaker 1: top of those guys coming back healthy, sometimes I actually

467
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: think especially this coaching staff, because it is green and

468
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: they're still trying to figure out how to coach offense

469
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: and things like that, I think they get so caught

470
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Speaker 1: up in game plan sometimes that they forget about who

471
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Speaker 1: they are as an offense. Right, So all of a sudden,

472
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Speaker 1: two weeks from now, they come out against the Bengals

473
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Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, well, that game plan against the

474
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: Cardinals was maybe some of the best offense that we

475
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: put on tape in weeks, but we can't beat this

476
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: Bengals team like that, so we have to do something

477
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: completely different. And then all of a sudden, it looks

478
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Speaker 1: like it did against the Bills or against the Jets

479
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: or against the Colts, right, because you're just getting caught

480
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: up in the matchup. This is who they are, This

481
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: is who they are, and they need to let Pierre

482
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Speaker 1: Strong and Marcus Jones play, like those guys need to

483
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Speaker 1: play on this offense. And like you said, it's not

484
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Speaker 1: saying bencherm Andre Stevenson. It's just saying that you are

485
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Speaker 1: gonna be a horizontal offense. It's gonna be screened, it's

486
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: gonna be motion, it's gonna be misdirection, it's gonna be short,

487
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: quick passing game. And if you're gonna do these types

488
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Speaker 1: of things, you need to have game breakers. You need

489
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: to have guys that have four three seven speed that

490
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: can take off and make a forty four yard game

491
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 1: at a drop play like those are the things that

492
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: you need to have on the field in order to

493
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Speaker 1: be explosive and productive in this type of conservative offense.

494
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Speaker 1: So they need to let those guys play. They can't

495
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Speaker 1: get too caught up in the game plan thing. And

496
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Speaker 1: I'm really really interested going into your two with Marcus Jones.

497
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: I think he's a better receiver than he is a corner,

498
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: and he's a good corner, like he's good there too.

499
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Speaker 1: But I wonder how they I'm not saying to switch

500
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Speaker 1: him the receiver full time necessarily, but I wonder how

501
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: they continue his development in that regard because he's the

502
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: best thing about Marcus Jones on a football field is

503
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands. He's dynamite. I mean, he's

504
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: an absolute game breaker if you get him into space.

505
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 1: We saw what happened against Buffalo. I mean, he can

506
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: absolutely take a ball to the house from any point

507
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: on the field. And there's just not that many guys

508
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: in the league that can do that. I mean, there

509
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 1: just isn't you know. This is why we always talk

510
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: about Tyree Hill and just kind of look, I think

511
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 1: Tyree Hill is not such a great guy off the field,

512
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: but on the field, we always talk about Tyree Hill

513
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,479
Speaker 1: and he's like this, like, you know, he's like the

514
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 1: Holy Grail, right, Like he's like this golden goose of

515
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: Oh my God, Like this guy is just different than

516
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: everybody else. And I don't know if Marcus is on

517
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Speaker 1: that level of speed, but he is one of maybe

518
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: a dozen guys in the league that when he walks

519
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: on the field, whether you're at your own twenty five

520
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: or the fifty. He can take it to the house

521
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: when one touch, like, there's not them any other guys

522
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: that can do that. So I think that ideally moving forward,

523
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: they get Jalen Mills back healthy, which I'm hoping to

524
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: see him out at practice today. They get Jack Jones

525
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: hopefully healthy in the long term, certainly he'll be healthy,

526
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: but maybe by next week he'll be healthy as well,

527
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: and they're allowed to split it a little bit more, right,

528
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: so instead of him playing sixty five snaps on offense

529
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: and eight or eight on offense and sixty five on defense,

530
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: maybe it's twenty twenty, right, yeah, or something like that,

531
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: because you just have to get this guy on the

532
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: on the field. You have to give him as many

533
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Speaker 1: opportunities as you can with the football in his hands.

534
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: Let's take some calls and then we'll get into the

535
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Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. Let's go to Brendan and

536
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Speaker 1: Quincy Brendan. How's it going good? Good, big fan, Glad

537
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: you guys got the pot back together. Thank you, Thank you.

538
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: Yeah to early to get into the drafting a bit

539
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: sure always yeah, sure, um ever two earlier, Yeah, I know,

540
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: I know. McShay had one point zero yesterday and I

541
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: just got me thinking a little bit. But um, you know,

542
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: obviously I was thinking about he looked like he had

543
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: Pat baking Um the tackle from Obviously it's really early,

544
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: you know they had him at fifteen taking the tackle

545
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: from from Georgia Jones. But I was thinking going the

546
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: next year, especially with the receiver position. Um, you know

547
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: Myers free agent, um Agilore likely gone. You know, Parker

548
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: is going to have one one year left, Born one

549
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: year left and then it's just Taekwon I leave. Um,

550
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: where do you see them going? I mean it looks

551
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: like again really early in the one point zero has

552
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: him in that range, Um had him passing on you

553
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: know Smith and Jig the Jordan Addison. Do you think

554
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: the importance should be going the next year? Obviously tackle

555
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: keeping Mac upright important, but you know, just looking at

556
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: that receiver depth going the next year, what do you

557
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: guys think is more of a need? Thanks Brennan. Yeah,

558
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: I think they should go tackle. I think they will

559
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,959
Speaker 1: go tackle. Why they should, Like you mentioned those some

560
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,479
Speaker 1: of those guys still have another year under contract and

561
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: they they they need experience at the position like they

562
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: need an NFL that that's a spot you go to

563
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: the free agency, you go to a trade. Right, I

564
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: would rather take that first round pick and trade it

565
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: for a wide receiver. And we've talked about guys on

566
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: the show like Jerry Judy. Right, I would rather take

567
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: that pick and trade it for a receiver than draft somebody.

568
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: That's why I think they'll go tackle and Evan. I

569
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: know this is going to drive you up a wall,

570
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: but just hang with me for a second. Oh no,

571
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: look at the last two drafts, um what was throw

572
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,719
Speaker 1: positional value aside for a second? Like, don't like just

573
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 1: put positional value aside. All the positions are on equal footing.

574
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: Quarterback was their biggest need in terms of where was

575
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: their biggest hole in the depth chart in twenty twenty one,

576
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: it was quarterback. They took it quarterback. They took Mac Jones.

577
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, where was their biggest hole in

578
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: the depth chart? It was guard. They didn't have two

579
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: starting guards on the roster. It was Evan it was

580
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: and they took a guard. Their biggest hole on the

581
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: depth chart right now is tackle. Yeah, Jonathan Jones and

582
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers are the two biggest pending free agents, but

583
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: Jacoby Leaves. They have depth there. I think they bring

584
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: back Jonathan Jones. Even if they don't, You've got these

585
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: young corners now stepping up. Jalen Mills is still here,

586
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: you know, Isaiah Wins in a contract here. Who knows

587
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: what Trent brown situation is. Tackle is going to be

588
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: the biggest hole on their depth chart, and I think

589
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: they address in the first round. Yeah, tackles the biggest

590
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: one for me as well. Just I think a lot

591
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: of things happen in a positive way if you get

592
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: if franchise left tackle to protect mac James, right, you know,

593
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,239
Speaker 1: just get a guy, especially if they're picking in the

594
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: top twenty or the fringe top twenty, if they don't

595
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, or if they're one of the first

596
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: teams out of the playoffs or something like that, they're

597
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: going to be in that seventeen to twenty range in

598
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,719
Speaker 1: the first round. And that's usually where you can get

599
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: somebody of that caliber that can be a long term

600
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: franchise left tackle. And the other thing I'll just mentioned

601
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: quickly on the tackles, can we get like a six

602
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: foot nine dude right, Like, we don't need it to

603
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: be Isaiah wind Right, like we need they need somebody,

604
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: and it doesn't have to be six foot nine. I'm

605
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: obviously exaggerating, but they I want a I want a

606
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: ball Clay, right, Like, give me the guy that has

607
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: all of the physical traits checked, like none of this

608
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: undersized tackle nonsense. Trevor Penning last year I think went

609
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: nineteen to New Orleans, right. I think it was so

610
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: he was one of those guys that six foot seven,

611
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: you know, athletic freak for his position. Mahler had that attitude,

612
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: had that chip, had that that type of finish to

613
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: his game that they like that he had all the

614
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: boxes checked from a measure your bulls in an intangible

615
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: standpoint for a tackle raw. But they can coach him

616
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: up right, Like that's sort of the idea. You know,

617
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: maybe you get Dante to put him through like a

618
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: two week boot camp in the spring when they draft

619
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: him or something like that, and they get him going.

620
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: So that that's where I would go with it as well.

621
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: I think you made a good point too about trading

622
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: for a wide receiver that's a proven commodity like a

623
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: you know, AJ Brown moves last year. We always talk

624
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: about the digs trade. Tire Hill Obviously, you know Tyree

625
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: Hill moved for five draft picks, so I'm not sure

626
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: if you're making that deal. But he's also, as we

627
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: just kind of talked about artably, the best wide receiver

628
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: in the league. I don't think they're gonna go out.

629
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: I think he is the best wide receiver the league.

630
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: If you can trade the eighteenth overall pick straight up

631
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: for at aj Brown like the Eagles did last year,

632
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: that's a no brain all day, all day. So the

633
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: one draft question that you know, you know I'm gonna

634
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: like Jordan Addison because you know you're very much gonna

635
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: like Jordan Addison. But I want to ask you about

636
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigba because as he basically didn't play

637
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: this year, right, I mean, he was injured the whole season.

638
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: So it's a little bit different than Jamar Chase because

639
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase sat out, right, he just opted out of

640
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: the season. I think at LSU his final year because

641
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: of the COVID year. But I don't want to forget

642
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: how good Jackson Smith and Jigba's twenty twenty one tape was, right,

643
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: because he was most people thought that he was the

644
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: best receiver at Ohio State with Garrett Wilson and Chris

645
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: Alave on the team right, So he's an absolute stud

646
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: if healthy and everything checks out for him medically at

647
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: the combine and Pro days and stuff like that. It

648
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: is in that respect a little bit like Jamar Chase

649
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: where it's like you can you can't forget. You know,

650
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: Davante Smith was the Heisman winner right in twenty one,

651
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: and everybody was all Dante Smith because we were watching

652
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: him play. But then I'll you know, smart people, I'm

653
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: not like patting us on the back. I'm just saying

654
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: in general, smart people were, well, Dumar Chase is by

655
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: far the best prospect, and look at what happened in

656
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: the NFL. So I think Jackson Smith and Jigbu is

657
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: right in that category and he would fit in so well, yeah,

658
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: he's what they need, that big prototypical X. It's gonna

659
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: be a big pre draft process for him. If he

660
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's partaking in one of the

661
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 1: bowl games or not, Senior Bowl to Shrine Bowl, he's

662
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: not playing, well he's yeah, he's not playing in the

663
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: playoffs side doubt, so that'll be interesting. I'll give you

664
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: the tackles too, real quick because he did bring up

665
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: the name. So there's three guys I look So Peter

666
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: Scronsky is gonna be the top tackle taken in the

667
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: draft out of Northwestern. He's probably gonna go top ten.

668
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: So unless they trade up, he's probably not an option.

669
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: But the three guys I'm looking at and they're all

670
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: playing in the college football playoffs, so this will be

671
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: this will be really fun to watch. So Broderick Jones,

672
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: the guy from Georgia who mcshade's Patriots taking, Yeah, six

673
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: four three fifteen. Good athlete. I'd call him an above average.

674
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's his best trait, but I

675
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: know people here georgiaa left tackle and they think Isaiah

676
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: win Um different. He's projected to go around that seventeen

677
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: to twenty range. He just has one year as a starter,

678
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: so that's kind of the worry with him is he's

679
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: a bit raw. Then I actually really like both of

680
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: Ohio States tackles, and I know you have your holdups

681
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: on Ohio States tackles, but first off, Paris Johnson six

682
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: six three fifteen, so there's your size. He played right guard.

683
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: He was there starting right guard in twenty twenty one

684
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: because they just wanted to get him on the field,

685
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: and they had two great left tackles, or they had

686
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: two great tackles kicked him out to left tackle. This year,

687
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: he's allowed one sack in eight hundred twenty one career

688
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: passing pass blocking sets, so he's been a lockdown left

689
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: tackle for them. He's got the size. The issue with him,

690
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: besides the scheme, which I'll let you talk about, is again,

691
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, played right guard. Now he's out of tackle.

692
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: How familiar is he with the position. But he'll six six,

693
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 1: three fifteen, he's gonna be a tackle in the NFL.

694
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: And then my guy, and this guy's actually projected to

695
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: be a second round pick. I think he'll end up

696
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: shooting up the draft boards if you want the size.

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00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: Evan Dwan Jones is Ohio State's right tackle. Man, I

698
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: can't two of these guys are Jones. There's Roderick Jones

699
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: and Dawan Jones. Dwan Jones projected sack round pick. So

700
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: Paris Johnson's the left tackle projected go in first round.

701
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: Dwan Jones is the right tackle projected going second round,

702
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: but he has played left tackle. He was the backup

703
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 1: left tackles first two years, played about one hundred snaps

704
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: each year. Now he's there starting right tackle. He's been

705
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: the last two years. Six eight three hundred sixty pounds.

706
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: But he can kind of move. They run some zone stuff,

707
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: they'll pull him. He's a former basketball player. You can

708
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 1: seat in his footwork. He reminds me a bit evan

709
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: of Trent Brown when Trent Brown first got like Trent

710
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: Brown coming out of the draft, right, not Trent Brown now,

711
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: not Trent Brown Brown. Yeah, I wouldn't even say like

712
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: rookie Trent Brown like you said the Ball of Clay, right. Yeah. Yeah,

713
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: this guy's sixty eight three to sixty and he's ready

714
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: to be coached up. So and the cool thing about

715
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: so the same thing with the second two guys, I said,

716
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: Paris Johnson, Ohio States left tackle and Dwan Jones, Ohio

717
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: States right tackle. They're gonna go up against a Georgia

718
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: defensive front in that first playoff game that's the best

719
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: in college football and has guys like Jalen Carter and

720
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: Nolan Smith in like first round picks all across the front.

721
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: So we're gonna get a really good look and exactly

722
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: what these guys can do. And if they play well.

723
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: Like That's why part of the reason I think Duan

724
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: Jones stock has a chance to go up because he's gonna,

725
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: you know, in the playoff and then if they win,

726
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: who knows who they get. So, um, those would be

727
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: the guys I would say, I'll let you get your

728
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: two cents, and but those would be the guys i'd

729
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: say to look at. Yeah, So I am interested to

730
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: see how they look in the playoff. And you know,

731
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: the guys here will be watching the playoff too, because

732
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: they put a lot of stock in that game or

733
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: those two games, real three whatever it is. Yeah, three games,

734
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: three games, two rounds. That's why. I mean, I think

735
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: that's pretty much why they drafted Sony Michelle is because

736
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: he played great in the in the playoffs. Yeah, I know,

737
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: that's not that's not a great that's not a great

738
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: omen for these guys that are playing it in a

739
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: couple of weeks in the playoff. But I won't get

740
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: too much into because I'm sure we'll talk about it

741
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: at a ton in the offseason. What the Ohio State

742
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: scheme when we're breaking down these tackles, but they the

743
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: big thing for evaluating when it comes to tackle play

744
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: or even just guard plays as well, or center play

745
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: is real NFL pass sets, right, because so many of

746
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: these offenses are RPO offenses, or you know, they get

747
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: the ball out of the hands on screens and things

748
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: like that so quickly that they don't actually pass protect

749
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: for three seconds, Like that just doesn't happen. At Ohio State,

750
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: they do run a lot of pro style stuff in

751
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: their passing game, but their drops are different. Their drops

752
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: are usually quicker three step or even the just the

753
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 1: depth that they ask for a five step drop is

754
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: usually shorter depths, which makes it a lot easier for tackles.

755
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: Right if your quarterbacks dropping to ten yards and the

756
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: tackles got a block to ten and a half, like

757
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: that's harder than blocking to eight and a half. Right.

758
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: So that's that's the difference with the Ohio State and

759
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: a lot of the things that they do schematically. And

760
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: you know, I love Justin Fields and he's been playing

761
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: great this year, but a lot of things that they

762
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: do schematically is why a lot of their quarterbacks don't

763
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: translate to the NFL. Also, So that's something that'll keep

764
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: your eye on with the tackles when you're looking at

765
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: these guys coming up in the draft it hasn't really

766
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: been as much of a factor recently. I guess like

767
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: their receipt like Eric Wilson's a monster like that guy

768
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: looks great. Justin fields is coming on now, so I

769
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: guess maybe it's starting to be easier for them to translate.

770
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: That's probably because the NFL is picking up on a

771
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: lot of the schemes from college and starting to run

772
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: it in the NFL as well, So maybe that's part

773
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: of the reason. But it'll be interesting to see how

774
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: many true pass sets I can get of the Jones guy.

775
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: There would Dan Jones, Dwan Jones, Paris Johnson, their left

776
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: tackle too. Yeah, we'll see. It'll be interesting to see that.

777
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: But those are really the ones that you have to

778
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: isolate and look at and say, Okay, this is what

779
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: this player could be in the NFL. It was a

780
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: fun little ten minute drafty tour. Let's get back into

781
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: Patriots Cardinals here, and let's talk about the defense in

782
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: that game. And of course we have to start with

783
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: the AFC Defensive Player of the Week and a guy who,

784
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,439
Speaker 1: by the way, needs a new Wikipedia page. I looked

785
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: on there earlier. It's like this blurry picture of him

786
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 1: at Michigan. Anyway, it's josh Ucha. He had three sacks.

787
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: No pass rusher has played better than josh Ucha in

788
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: the last seven No pass rusher, yeah, has played better

789
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 1: than josh Ucha in the last seven weeks in the NFL.

790
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: Keep in mind the Patriots have a bye week in

791
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: this window, but josh Uchain in the last seven weeks

792
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: six games has ten sacks after three against the Cardinals.

793
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: The next closest player in the NFL is Nick Bosa

794
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: with seven and a half, So it's not even a

795
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: close margin. And by the way, Matthew jude On his

796
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: fourth on that list with six, so it's not a

797
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: one man show. This is something that we both talked

798
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: about a lot this summer. What this defense really needed

799
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: to unlock the front was not even like this is

800
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: so above and beyond what josh Uch is doing, but

801
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: just somebody on that other side, Yeah, complimentary rushing right

802
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: to keep the pass protection schemes honest, so they couldn't

803
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: over commit to Matthew Judon. And Judon said it after

804
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: the game the other night. I don't remember exactly what

805
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: he said, but I'm paraphrasing. If they want to keep

806
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: focusing on me. Fine, if they're gonna block Joshua one

807
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 1: on one, he's gonna keep doing this. Judon actually said

808
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: Uch is the team's best pass rusher. And what's even

809
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: more exciting about it is, I actually think the pass

810
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: rush can get significantly better. And the way that's going

811
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: to happen is if and when Christian Barmore returns from

812
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: my r which he's eligible to do this week because

813
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: he's a great pass rusher in his own right. So

814
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: I think the pass rush, that pass rush group, obviously

815
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,479
Speaker 1: highlighted by Judaan nuch shape, but there's other guys as well.

816
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: That pass rush group is the best thing this team

817
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: has gone for them right now on the field. And

818
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: if they're gonna really make this playoff push and get

819
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: into the playoffs and maybe even win a playoff game,

820
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: it's on that group, Like this group is the one

821
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: that's going to carry them to maybe a couple upset

822
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: wins here down the stretch. Yeah, and I know a

823
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: lot of the pressure added up late in the game

824
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: when the Cardinals were trying to throw their way back

825
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: into the game, but still I think you just see

826
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: defensively how different they are when they're getting after the

827
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 1: quarterback versus when they're not right. And this is why

828
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: when they played Buffalo last week, I kept on banging

829
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: the tables saying, you can't get conservative with the pass rush, right,

830
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 1: They just they don't have the horses in the secondary

831
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: to not get after to have the pass rush go

832
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: go gold right like that. This needs to be turned

833
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: up to dial ten every single week. They need to

834
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: find way when they face mobile quarterbacks, they're they're a

835
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: spying guys or playing zone and having the low zones

836
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: kind of looking at the QB or whatever. They need

837
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: to find ways to allow Jude on uch wise Barmore

838
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: when he returns. Even a guy like Daniel Aquale who

839
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: had four pressures in this game a sack and three

840
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: and three other pressures as well. He played a really

841
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: good game in this game because they're singling him the

842
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: whole game. Right, He's got one on one with the

843
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: guard the entire game and he was able to make

844
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: some plays. So they need to allow the pass rush

845
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: to get after it. Now. The cool thing I think

846
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: with ch is that this guy's in his bag like

847
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: this is not just like I'm just gonna come off

848
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: the ball and like turn the corner on the tackle

849
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: and it's a third string tackle like it was last week.

850
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: So he just can't block my speed rush like that's

851
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 1: he is. And he's got nuanced now like he's he's

852
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: got moves that This is my favorite thing. That's been

853
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: my favorite thing watching him these last couple weeks. His

854
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: toolbox is deep. Oh, he's got so many moves he

855
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: can go to. Just when you think he's run through

856
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: them all, he brings out a new when it's and

857
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: that's that's credit to that's putting in work during the

858
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: week in the offseason, studying film, like learning the game,

859
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 1: digesting the game like that's that's a full year's worth

860
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: of work going into that, and he deserved, Like six

861
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: acts in ten weeks is great. Let's give him credit

862
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,439
Speaker 1: for what he was doing over the summer that set

863
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: these up as well. Yeah, so I'm gonna try to

864
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: talk to him today or tomorrow and get as much

865
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: as I can out of him about this, because pass

866
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: archers don't like him when you ask about their moves.

867
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: They don't And you've been down that road, I know

868
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,959
Speaker 1: you know that, but they're very they keep that close

869
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: to the chest. I know but when you watch him, like,

870
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: and I don't want to get say this in a

871
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: negative light because I think it might get taken that way.

872
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: But these are the types of things that we love

873
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: posting on Twitter, right, Like these are the types of

874
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: ass rush moves that people are you know, d line

875
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: VIDs and me and people like that, that they are

876
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: all about the pass rushers. Like this is what we

877
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: highlight out of these guys. You know, last week it

878
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: was the von Miller ghost rush on the strip sack.

879
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: This week it's the change of pace or the heavy

880
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 1: move that's kind of taking over the NFL a little

881
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: bit this year. It's kind of like a you know,

882
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: a heasy move right where he just comes off the line,

883
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: kind of freezes for a second and then like gives

884
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: him a little shake and goes inside er out. And

885
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: I noticed a little bit too with him, And hopefully

886
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: I can ask him about this as well, that some

887
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: of the moves that he's had in recent weeks got

888
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: a little bit of Judeon on them. So I wonder

889
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: how much coaching up Judon has done with him as well.

890
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: So this is not just like I was saying earlier,

891
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: It's not just like a speed rush, and he's an

892
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: explosive guy and he can turn the corner and some

893
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: of these tackles that he's going up against just can't

894
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: handle the speed. He's got different tools in his toolbox,

895
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: different counters, different moves that he has, and he's a

896
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: lot of fun to watch right now. So I'm I'm

897
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: excited because we've been talking. I've been talking him up

898
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: every summer like I have. Yeah, he's he's one of

899
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: my guys, and I've always said, hey, josh J looks great,

900
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: josh UJ breakout, josh Uj's breakouts coming, and he just

901
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to stay healthy. And this year, knock

902
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: on what he's been able to stay healthy and he's

903
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: been able to get after. But I just love watching

904
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: the nuance to his moves and he's just checking all

905
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: the boxes of like the cool pass rush moves that

906
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: we put on Twitter, and that's, uh, there's something to

907
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: be said for that when it's working right. I mean, obviously,

908
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: if he's going out there and trying Dwhite Freeny spin

909
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: moves and getting stone stone wall, that's you know, not

910
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: not good. But when you have ten sacks and eight

911
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: games or seven games or whatever, it is, then it's

912
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: six games, then it's obviously working, So I keep doing it.

913
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: One last thing on us, one last stat He's a

914
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: PFF tracks win rate, which is just like pressures over

915
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 1: or opportunities right like pressure is over pass rush snaps.

916
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: And the only guy with a higher win rate in

917
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: the NFL right now is Miles Garrett. You're being company with.

918
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: If you're second to Miles Garrett in anything involving rushing

919
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: in the past or then then you're playing pretty damn well.

920
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 1: So right now, josh uj Is is as effective on

921
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 1: a per snap basis is any rusher in the league.

922
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people have those questions

923
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: too about it about his run defense and is that

924
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: coming along. He only had six snaps against the run

925
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: last week. They are using him a lot on the

926
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: backside of RPO or option plays to hold the quarterback,

927
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: right you know, you got the QB type of thing,

928
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: but they're not really asking him to truly set the

929
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: edge of the defense. And I don't think that's a

930
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: bad thing. I think that that's actually a good thing.

931
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: And this kind of goes back to Bill Belichick often

932
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: having that magic touch of playing guys in the in

933
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: the role that is going to best utilize their skill sets.

934
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: So early downs they'll rely on, you know, Gilani Tavai

935
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: or Anthony Jennings or something you liked to set the edge,

936
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: and then on second and third down they bring you

937
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: jan and let him do his thing. All right, we

938
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: got like fifteen minutes here, We got a lot to

939
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: get to, so we'll pick up the pace. But one

940
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: more thing on this Cardinals game, I want to touch

941
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: on Evan. They finally had a good game against a

942
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: stud wide receiver, and they did it really with two

943
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: rookies on him. It was Jack Jones before he got hurt,

944
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: and then Marcus Jones pretty much taking the majority of

945
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: the coverage snaps on DeAndre Hopkins. His final stat line

946
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: wasn't bad, seven for seventy nine yards, but three of

947
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: those catches came late when the game was sort of

948
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: out of control and the Patriots were playing very conservative

949
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: defensively through the first three quarters. Hopkins caught four passes

950
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: for fifty three yards, and he had that humble and

951
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: he had the game a game changing rumble. So much better,

952
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: much better against an elite wide receiver, and they did

953
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: it despite being significantly shorthanded in the secondary. Yeah, so

954
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: I think that on the one hand, you kind of

955
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: look at it him he was Colton McCoy, right, So

956
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: but I mean, you watch how they cover him. He's

957
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: not running worse routes because it's Colton McCoy's at quarterback. Right.

958
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be you know, impartial here a

959
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: little bit and look at the fact that it was

960
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: tough for me with the defense because I was really

961
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,439
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing and maybe they would have lost

962
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: the game. Kyler played the whole game, but I was

963
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: looking forward to see if they could defend a guy

964
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: like Kyler, right. You know, we know the mobile quarterback gangle,

965
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: And I thought that was a good part of this

966
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,479
Speaker 1: game against a four and eight opponent, to at least

967
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: have that matchup mismatch and having it that opportunity to

968
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: kind of practice almost against the mobile quarterback of Kyler's caliber.

969
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: Oh godless of that, I thought. What was interesting. So

970
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 1: we all remember the Sean Wade cameo and getting burned

971
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: across the field by Robbie Anderson. So on that snap,

972
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots were playing cover one double. They were doubling

973
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, so there was no safety help in the

974
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: middle of the field for Sean Wade, right, he was

975
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: just singled up on Robbie Anderson and he got burned

976
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: coming across the field. It was similar to Adam Thieland's

977
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: touchdown in Minnesota. Right, you guys went to Jefferson. Jefferson

978
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: only one guy on theeling, and he beats Jalen Mills

979
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: coming across the field. So what the Patriots did in

980
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: a later down in the high red zone in a

981
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: similar situation was they actually played a snap of Cover

982
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: seven where they have two high safeties and they actually

983
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: Brackett Bolts receivers, right, so they have a bracket on

984
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, and they also had to bracket on Hollywood Brown,

985
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: so that if Hollywood Brand ran acrosser, they had to

986
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: help because they had two high deep instead of just

987
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: one high deep, and that allowed them to kind of

988
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: take away both the crosser one on one and the

989
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: number one guy and DeAndre Hopkins. So I think when

990
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: they go forward here against some of these other you know,

991
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: elite receivers. You know, the example I use is, okay, well,

992
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: if you double Tyreek Hill out of the game, what

993
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 1: about Jalen Waddle, Right, like, you know, double one guy

994
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 1: the entire game. If we double chase, what about Higgins?

995
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: If you know, you get the point. So some of

996
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: these two high looks that they were running, I think

997
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: that maybe that's the answer, because teams know that if

998
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: they get one double against the Patriots, they can run

999
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: those crossing routes right with the other receiver, the number

1000
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: two guy. So if they are gonna kind of give

1001
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: that up, then they're gonna give up some yards to

1002
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: the Theelings in the Higgins is in the waddles of

1003
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: the world, So they are going to have to figure

1004
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: out ways to cut off that crossing route while also

1005
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: doubling the number one guy. Because I think against Buffalo,

1006
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: the problem that they had was that they were actually

1007
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: cutting off Isaiah McKenzie on crossing routes, but they were

1008
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: leaving digs one on one with Jonathan Jones, and that's

1009
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: a mismatch, right. So I think the two high look

1010
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: is gonna be something that we see more of. And

1011
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: you just if you get run on aut of two

1012
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: high shells, you get run on out of two high shells,

1013
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: Like that's kind of the chess match. I think this

1014
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 1: week is a really good example of that against the Raiders,

1015
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: which we'll get into here in a second. Yeah, no,

1016
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: let's do that right now. And the Raiders are an

1017
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: interesting team because I know people look at their record,

1018
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: but they've been hot the last couple of weeks. They've

1019
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: won three in a row before losing last week. All

1020
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: but three of their games have been one score games.

1021
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: You know, they've struggled late. They are sort of similar

1022
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: to the Patriots in that way, And so there's this

1023
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: game is about star power, right. The star power on

1024
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: the offense is Tavante Adams. Star power on the defense

1025
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: is Chandler Jones at Max Crosby. Those are the three

1026
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: guys single handedly that can ruin this game for the Patriots.

1027
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: And Josh Jacobs a good player too. Josh Jacobs too,

1028
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: but they've been good against those kind of backs this year,

1029
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: and they didn't have their best tackling game against the Cardinals,

1030
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: but it was kind of a one off. Yeah yeah.

1031
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: James Connor, I think the number one thing that I've

1032
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: seen out of the last two weeks with Cook and

1033
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: Connor gaining some yards on the Patriots on the ground

1034
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: is lack of penetration that always kills the Patriots run game.

1035
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: When you just watch the tape and you see, you know,

1036
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: against the Cardinals, they're wearing their red jerseys right, and

1037
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: you just see a wall of red right and no

1038
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: penetration from the Patriots in the backfield. That's when you

1039
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: start to get a little bit downhill, right, And James

1040
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: Connor is a big guys, hard to tackle. So the

1041
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: chess match quickly with the Raiders. That I find interesting

1042
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: is no team. I think only one team. Actually, I

1043
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: think the Bucks ironically are the one team that have

1044
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: faced more, but they're number two in the league. And

1045
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: the amount of two high shells that they see because

1046
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: everybody is petrified of leaving Davanta Adams one on one, right,

1047
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: Like nobody wants to leave Davante Adams without safety help.

1048
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: So they see a ton of too high and they

1049
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: see a ton of too high even when they play

1050
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: twenty one personnel with the fullback, with Jacob Johnson in

1051
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: the backfield. And you know McDaniels like, when he sees

1052
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: too high shell and he's got a fullback, he's just

1053
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: gonna run lead Iso into a light box. Likes, that's

1054
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: just what they're gonna do. And so he's been able

1055
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: to get Josh Jacobs going to really the chess matcher,

1056
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: the he xs and knows of this Josh Jacobs breakout

1057
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: is actually more about teams worried about the Raiders passing

1058
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: game that it is worried about Josh Jacobs. It's kind

1059
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: of what we've been talking about the Patriots offense leading

1060
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: to more. Right, So when they get into these two

1061
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: high shells and they're rolling the safety over the top

1062
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: of atoms and all these kinds of things, they are

1063
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: lightening the box and Josh Jacobs is just running wild

1064
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: through these light boxes. There's a clip that I'm gonna

1065
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 1: use and my game preview against the Chargers where from

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Speaker 1: twenty yards out in the higher end zone they run

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00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: lead I soo and Josh Jacobs goes untouched into the

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00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: end zone like just nobody touches them because there's just

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00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 1: no it's just numbers, right, there's hat on a hat

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00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: and it's just clean to the end zone. So that's

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00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: the chess match. Do you live with or hope that

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00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: you can stop the run at a too high and

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00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 1: able yourself to then get over the top of Davante Adams,

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00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: or do you go single high to stop the run

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00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: roll the safety over to atoms and then live with

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00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: the fact that mac Hollins is one on one the

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00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: entire game. Like these are the things that you have

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00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: to sort of decide as the Patriots coaching staff, you know,

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00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: probably a three hundred yards from me right now, and

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00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: their meeting room is going through the game plan before practice.

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00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: They have to decide is this what what do we

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00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: want to give up? Right because you can't cover it all.

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00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: So it'll be really interesting to see to me what

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00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: kind of shells they play in because the Raiders have

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00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: just been absolutely destroying teams on the ground out of

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00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: too high like you just are getting up six six

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00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: and a half yards to carry on two high shells.

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00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: I mean that's the Seahawks right like that that game

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00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 1: was you know, I think you had what three hundred

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00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage Josh Jacobs did in that game. So

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00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 1: that that's the big thing. And the rams, they they

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00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: played a lot of too high shell and they just

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00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 1: were able to stop them. And that was without Aaron Donald,

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00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 1: So that that that does give you some hope in

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00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: this game. I love that chess match. I love the

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00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: decisions that they have to make there and um you know,

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00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 1: deciding what to do because you can see it on

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00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: the RAMS tape even you know they roll the safety

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00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: down to get into another hat in the box for

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00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs, and then Adams is one on one on

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00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 1: the outside and he's making highlight reel catches against single coverage, So, well,

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00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: which way do you go is gonna be started the

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00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: deciding factor in this game. And then I think when

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00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: the Patriots have the ball, honestly, it's probably gonna look

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00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 1: a lot like it did against Arizona. A lot of screens,

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00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: a lot of RPOs because if you're dropping straight back

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00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 1: and it's Chandler and I know Chandler Jones didn't for

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00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: a great starts of the season. He's kind of come

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00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: on the last couple of weeks. And then obviously Max

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00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: Crosby's a two top ten, if not top five pass

1111
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: rushers right on each end against the Patriot's biggest weakness

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00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: right now in their tackles. You can't let those guys

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00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: take over the game. You can't do it so quick passing, screens, RPOs,

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00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: those kind of things. If you can get a lead

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00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: early just running the ball, that's gonna be huge for

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00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: them on offense. Yeah, absolutely that I remember, and look

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00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: it's a long time ago now in NFL time training camp,

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00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: but they could not block Max Crosby in camp like

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00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,959
Speaker 1: for two were in that preseason get right, he playing

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00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: that preseason game, right you might, uh, I don't, I

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00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: don't know. They had trouble blocking whoever it was playing

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00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: for the Raiders in that game. So you know, going

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00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: back to that, and we'll see today because I think

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00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: Hunter Renfron Dan Waller actually eligible to return this week.

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00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, I forgot it was Bill or Steve or

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00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: Girod somebody said that, you know, they could be back

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00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: this week if that happens, and then that's gonna be

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00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: that's gonna be dicey for the Patriots defensive they get

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00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: one of even one of those guys back because in camp,

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00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: the two things that really stood out I think the

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00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: first it was the first day of joint practices with

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00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: the Raiders was probably not probably it was the best

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00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: practice I've ever seen anybody have. Davante Adams just absolutely,

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00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: I mean if it was a game, he probably had

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00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty yards right like it was. It

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00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: was absolutely dominant from start to finish, and some of

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00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: it was high degree of difficulty too, Like we're not

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00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: just talking about him being five yards of separation the

1139
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: entire game on the Patriots corners. There was a couple

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00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: of plays where Jalen Mills was all over him and

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00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: he's still made just you know, one handed, you know,

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00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: incredible grabs along the sidelines. So it was one of

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00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: the most impressive practices I've ever seen. And then Max

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00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: Crosby wasn't too shabby either when the Patriots were on

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00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: offense and eleven on eleven. So because going back to

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00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:27,439
Speaker 1: those joint practices, the thing that was obvious about that

1147
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: matchup was it's the old Madden addage or Fantasy draft addage,

1148
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: right like that the couple first couple of players in

1149
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: a draft of these two teams are probably Raiders, right

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00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: Like I think DeVante Adams and Max Crosby. I guess

1151
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: he could make an argument that Matthew Judon and Crosby

1152
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: are probably pretty close. But when you start to really

1153
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,959
Speaker 1: think about, you know, and then you had renfro back

1154
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: in there, and he had a pretty good week there

1155
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: as well. That's when you start to think about the

1156
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: star power that the Raiders have a versus you know

1157
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots roster, so it was what four or five

1158
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: months ago now, so I know how much of a

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00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: factor it really is. But I just remember watching those

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00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: practices and thinking, wow, I mean, these two guys, Crosby

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00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: and Adams are these are elite level football players, and

1162
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: not saying that guys like Jude On arn't, but it

1163
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: just was really impressive to watch. All Right, we are

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00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: up against it here because Unfiltered is coming up in

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00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes right at noon, so we got to hop off.

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Speaker 1: So Chris Eldred, I see you on the line. I'm

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00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: sorry we didn't get to you. Don't worry. Evan will

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00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: be back in the host chair next week and he'll

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00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: run this thing much more efficiently than I just did. Apparently,

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00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: you know, we did a lot to talk about that. Sorry,

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00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: we did have a lot to get into. We took

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00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: the draft detour, which of course happened with me in

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00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:49,479
Speaker 1: the one chair. I do want to just mention real quick,

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00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: I got a chance and the Patriots kind of helped

1175
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: out this so huge thanks to them to go to

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00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: Army Navy over the weekend. Evan, I don't know if

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00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: you saw any of that. I did. We were traveling

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00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: for most of it. Unbelievable environment. Unbelievable A plus football environment.

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01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: I can't wait for that game to be here next

1180
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: year and people experience it. It's gonna be so cool.

1181
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: So um, I just want to get that in, give

1182
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: that shout out, and definitely definitely looking forward to next year.

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01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: So you usually wrap the show up, I'm trying to think.

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Speaker 1: I get subscribed to the podcast, right, subscribe to the podcast, yea,

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01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: and see we'll be back to normal time. We should

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01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: be back, so we're fund but we haven't done like

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01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: a normal show since before Thanksgiving. I know this schedule

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01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: has been brutal right, a normal Wednesday. Next week's Saturday,

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01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: so it's not totally normal. So we may be at

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Speaker 1: a weird time next week, who knows, but generally Wednesday's

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Speaker 1: at two o'clock. And of course if you miss it,

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Speaker 1: you couldn't subscribe wherever you get your podcast Patriots Catch

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Speaker 1: twenty two, So for everybody here, for Evan Lazar, we

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Speaker 1: got Patriots Unfiltered coming up here in about fifteen minutes,

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