1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: R and B money. We are thanks take valoti. We 2 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: are the authority on R and B. There's a deal 3 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 1: of money to taking. And this is the R and 4 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: B money. What it is the authority. 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 2: On all things? 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: Are all things things R and B. I'm telling you 7 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: he's in the building. I'm telling you there's a gift, 8 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: there is a precision, there is an education. 9 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 3: Almost I'm smoking now. I'm already getting nervous that there. 10 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: Is a flyness. There is a mystery connected to this 11 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: man that is impressive. 12 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 3: I don't know if there's any mystery, but I like 13 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: to intro there's some mystery. What's the mystery. 14 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: Connected to this man? As he maintains his level of 15 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: excellence through sight and sound. D m V couldn't be 16 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: more proud of this man right here? Is he a 17 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: king of the DMV? No, no king IV? Yes, k 18 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: Y s Land is a gentleman without further ado. My 19 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: brother turned somebody from where I'm from. People are here 20 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: where you're from. 21 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: I'm not leaving here without they leaving with something here. 22 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: From from you. 23 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: My man's in them. Sick of this. 24 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: We in love night club. He's not kicking in mine, boss, 25 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 1: talking life. You understand I'm saying, bro, I remember, I 26 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: remember we did this show together one time. Right. I've 27 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: always I've always held your gift in high regard. We've 28 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: even had this conversation in the middle of a club 29 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: while the club was jumping, going crazy, me you in love, 30 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: talking life and all of this shit, and we did it. 31 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: We some time after that, some records after that, we 32 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: at the Convention Center doing the show after one of 33 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: your biggest first weeks. You you went, You went right 34 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: after me. I performed them. My thing took my shirt off. 35 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: She was crazy, praise sh it was crazy. I thought 36 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: it was crazy. That was crazy, and my brother, you 37 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: proceeded to get on that motherfucking stage and do a 38 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: fucking show. The crowd was going crazy from start to finish. 39 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: And that particular day I remember, like yesterday me I 40 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: was at the cliff. Jerry Alimo was there that day. 41 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: I said that Nigga is a superstar. Damn that day, 42 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: I wish I could remember shit like that. What's the 43 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: name was there too? Backyard? Was there too? Yep? One 44 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: of us before I signed No you was you? Was you? 45 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: Was hot? You was cracking. It was loads of flyer 46 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: bromis the whole thing. You were cracking, and I said, 47 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: I had never seen you perform, and seeing you in 48 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: that space packed out convention center doing an actual show, 49 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: and it's something you just said before the thing started. 50 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: It's like people don't understand music, and your understanding of 51 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: music in your placement and how you deliver it. That 52 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: for me, makes the difference in your in your artistry 53 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: why I believe you're so great. I appreciate it because 54 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: you're a hell of a musical entity. Your fire, crazy 55 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: dope lyricists and all of that, but your understanding of 56 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: music and where to put that shit, it's different. I 57 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: think I appreciate it. 58 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: First of all, we've me, me and my Kaz been 59 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 3: talking about this, like it's just like it's very strange 60 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 3: because even like on Calvin on stage interview, he was like, 61 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I'm not dreaming, Like people don't 62 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 3: be knowing that, and that's weird to me. 63 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, of course people know that. 64 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 3: And now like it came out and you see the 65 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 3: comments and like it's like fifty percent of people don't know. 66 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: They're like, you know what I'm saying, My name is 67 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: not dreaming I've have. 68 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 3: I referenced it all the time, but it's still so 69 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: imagine the music acumen, Like they think I'll just be 70 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 3: showing up and like get lucky. Well, I don't know, 71 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So that's something I'm kind 72 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 3: of like this album I've been trying to I've been 73 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: trying to show people like yo, like you know, I 74 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: don't I might not know how to play out there 75 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 3: or whatever, but like i know exactly how to put 76 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,119 Speaker 3: records together, and I've written for so many people. 77 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: I just don't. 78 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 3: That's just not my identity, you know what I'm saying. 79 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 3: So I appreciate somebody like of your stature saying that, 80 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: but like I'm about to prove that, like I'm out there, 81 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 3: like I have to maybe put it in their face 82 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 3: and put it on camera or what. 83 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, but that's what I'm when I say, 84 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: And when I was saying mystery and the intro. For me, 85 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: it's like me and Ja can know because we're behind 86 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: the veil. We live in the space, so we have 87 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: a different understanding of what it is that you do 88 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: in the level that you're doing it all. And to me, 89 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: it's like that's the screen, right. I want you guys 90 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: to understand, Okay, the hit is the hit, but I 91 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: also want you to understand that he's deeply connected to 92 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: the science of it, of the house and wives, and 93 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: those are the conversations. 94 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: Nothing is actually nothing is accidental when you especially when 95 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: you talk about singles, you know what I'm saying, or 96 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 3: like little earcne and stuff like that. Nothing nothing, nothing, nothing, 97 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 3: Nothing is accidental, coincidental when when I'm doing stuff like 98 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 3: especially post twenty, like thirteenth, like maybe around like Gifted, 99 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: like my third album, nothing was ever accidental, Like I learned. 100 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 3: I was around Mark Ronson, you know what I'm saying. 101 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 3: I was around jay Z, I was around bra I 102 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 3: was around Amy Winehouse. I was around Backyard Man, I 103 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: was around listen Man. I was around UCB, like I 104 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 3: was picking up stuff, like even subconsciously, like I'm picking 105 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 3: up stuff and me knowing stuff like you knowing and 106 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,679 Speaker 3: how to rock a crowd with a go go band, 107 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 3: like you can do it if you go rock a 108 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: crowd with a go go band and a rap and 109 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: you genuinely are learned trying to learn like all the things, 110 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 3: that's all who you be around. I think this is 111 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: what comes from it. But a lot of people don't 112 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 3: they you know a lot of people just like are 113 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 3: cool enough. It's just like all right, I'm come here 114 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 3: and do my raps and y'all do the hook and 115 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: then we put out them out like that's cool. Sometimes 116 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But like when you when 117 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 3: I'm in it, I'm in it. I'm trying. I want 118 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: to be great with this ship. 119 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 4: Now, that's dope to hear you to say, to hear 120 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 4: you say that, really you're a student of the game 121 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 4: right where we don't have many of those and it 122 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 4: and it shows the that's the separation. Yeah, and the 123 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 4: longevity that you've had in this in this business bro 124 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: where you can you can have a hit. 125 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 5: Whenever you want. 126 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: To like that. But but I don't say. 127 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: I've been I've been fortunate enough. 128 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 6: I do. 129 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: I do. 130 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: It comes at a car I'll be in that. I'll 131 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 3: be in that studio going like sometimes I got to 132 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: joke that us say it's like like my session can 133 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: start affoord, but like I'll be in another room like 134 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: playing like a puzzle game or playing Maden or something 135 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 3: like like why you just don't go in the studio. 136 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 3: I was like, man, I'm I ain't schizophrenic, Like I'm not. 137 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 3: The forces ain't come in my head yet. Like I 138 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 3: can't just be in there. I'm gonna get in there 139 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 3: and start being antsy, like when I go when I 140 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 3: go there, I go there. 141 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 142 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: So to say that HiT's come whenever I want, it 143 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 3: comes at a toad though, Like you know what I'm saying. 144 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: I can't sleep with music playing. I can't listen to music, 145 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: going to wear the studio. I go days with I 146 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: listening to music. 147 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 148 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 3: So it's not whenever I want, But I work bro 149 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: real hard so that when it comes, it comes. 150 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanna go back to the beginning. And I 151 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: want to say the beginning because you know, I have 152 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: to point out something real key. You know, when I 153 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: came to LA they gave me, they gave me hell 154 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: about my tims and Slopstocks gave me hell. My man 155 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: showed up today in the original Slapstock. I'm just trying 156 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: to tell you the ship that's going on right now 157 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: that I'm really excited about. You know what I'm saying, 158 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: Going to order me. 159 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: Something you gotta do, you gotta, you gotta this is 160 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 3: what this is where we come from. Like I ain't 161 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 3: never lot of people uh in the industry just couldn't 162 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 3: figure it out, and there was nothing to figure out 163 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 3: with me. Like I was seeing y'ad know, everybody doing anything. 164 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 3: Mark Ain't going crazy, Chappelle going crazy, Like I'm a 165 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 3: kid like listening to this stuff like I'm like, you know, 166 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 3: I'm I'm working that downtown locker room and a Marie 167 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: did an in. 168 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: Store there, like no, no, no, you got to give 169 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: me that you. 170 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 3: Working where downtown locker room? 171 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: Which one PG Plaza? 172 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and then up against the Wall too, I'm 173 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: one of the original against the Wall. Yeah, kid, that's 174 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 3: that's that's how Ford Iceberg at that age. Yes, I 175 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: was using my motherfucker forty percent off. Yeah, but yeah 176 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 3: like like like that all like like I took it. 177 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 3: It's like, man, you really it's hard to actually like, 178 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: you know, R and B. It was never really a 179 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 3: regional thing. So even when you like like came out 180 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 3: and shook the game up, it was like it's not 181 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 3: that they never really be asking where the singer from. 182 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: So like hip hop was super like, yeah, you. 183 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying, And it's just like I just 184 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 3: even when when I was coming up, I was different 185 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 3: than everybody, Like I was wearing like Supreme and like, 186 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 3: you know, like just my my aesthetic was different. So 187 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 3: I already had to go through that, you know what 188 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 3: I'm saying to me being on stage wearing Supreme, wrapping 189 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: the backyard all these bands, nobody looked like me, know, 190 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 3: I just like me, And to get in the industry, 191 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 3: to be the only person from from the crib like 192 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 3: like it was, it was not. 193 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: I still go through it. 194 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 3: I still think if I was from like a like 195 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 3: a uh music music city, like a hip hop city, 196 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: a lot of things have been different, you know what 197 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 3: I'm saying. I probably, like like the microscope, it wouldn't 198 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 3: only be on my transgressions. It's probably be on like 199 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 3: the stuff that you just talked about, like my intention 200 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: to detail and my success rate of records to connect. 201 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: I think that said, I think that's I think that's 202 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit to do with us 203 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 3: not being from a real I mean, we got Marvin Gaye, 204 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 3: we got you, we got we got ROBERTA. 205 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: Flat, we got but. 206 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: It's not known as you know what I'm saying, like 207 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 3: the Big Three of l A, New York and like Atlanta. 208 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's just like these these these you say 209 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: in New York, or you say in Atlanta, or you 210 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: say in La or you say. 211 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: Or even Detroit Motown. You know what I'm saying. 212 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: They're they're gonna their people are gonna, let you. 213 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 4: Know, yeah, no, we scream it, yeah loud. In the 214 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 4: Bay Area, we screaming if you're from the Bay streaming yeah. 215 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 4: So that that is the difference we have. We've had 216 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 4: less of an industry there. I mean, obviously with Gazi 217 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 4: coming along and doing Empire, that turned it into a 218 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 4: different type of place and more of a destination for people. 219 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 5: But as far as. 220 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 4: We felt like outsiders too, but within us feeling like 221 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 4: outside of this, outside of y'all had Tony Independent, but 222 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 4: y'all have Tony Tony Tony. 223 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: Like that y'all have, y'all had big artists. 224 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 3: Keep going, Okay, it's gonna start, it's gonna start getting slight. 225 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: It's in a sense of yes. 226 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 4: But but I said, all these artists you're naming independent 227 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 4: Hammer independent, he was independent, Well. 228 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: He didn't feel independent because he got listen, it's one 229 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 3: of the biggest rappers of all time, Like. 230 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 4: He did it independently, and that's what most people didn't know, right, 231 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 4: And so it came from he was the first out 232 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 4: the trunk for us. 233 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: Right. 234 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 4: So within having that or even to listen to the 235 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 4: old mc hammon records, he was battling the system. He 236 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 4: was saying like, oh, they don't play you. Listen to 237 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 4: the intro. He's like, oh, they don't play you on 238 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 4: New York Hammer because we were feeling that same way 239 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 4: that a place like a DC would feel, because it 240 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 4: was really nothing that was in the industry, you know 241 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like we were close to LA, but 242 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 4: we were in LA same way y'all close to New 243 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 4: York but DC ain't job. 244 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 3: But but to us, to I think a lot of 245 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 3: people was like, that's California, California doing night California doing 246 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 3: night Edet Underground Park was running around. 247 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: Wrapping that stuff like musical though, so we also listen, 248 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: we hear it differently, right, right, So when we heard 249 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: Tony Tony, Tony to me and you, what the fuck 250 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: is that? That's excellent? Yeah, that's excellent. But I understand 251 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: what you're saying too in terms of it was a 252 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: fight because it was just yours. Yeah yeah, and me 253 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: being from the DMV, it's like I'm always waiting for 254 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: the There's support there for sure, But there is a 255 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: difference in being from a New York and an Atlanta 256 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: and in LA it's just something different. 257 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 3: I mean, it's the ecosystem for real, Like when I 258 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: was coming up, like even still in a big twenty six, 259 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 3: Like it's not you can't just roll out of bed 260 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 3: and get like a high quality studio and not saying 261 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 3: you need one now, but like some people that some 262 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 3: people need space, some people need to you know, you 263 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: can roll out of bed and get get into something 264 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 3: like this in LA easier, you know what I'm saying, 265 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 3: Like you couldn't do that, You still can't really do that. 266 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: In DC, you still can't. 267 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 5: Has there ever been a DC based label? 268 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been a lot, and I don't going any 269 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 3: more because somebody gonna get mad because that's what we 270 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 3: do back going. But there's been a lot of been 271 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 3: a lot of labels, a lot of niggas. Was I 272 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 3: came from one, A lot of a lot of niggas 273 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 3: did a lot of good stuff. And if I say 274 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 3: one I got, say malls, I'm just not so. But yes, 275 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: but you know, like like it was, it was it 276 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: was again, it was a door like it wasn't really 277 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 3: like you know. 278 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: What I'm saying. 279 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 3: I remember, like you know, like ninth grade. Like I'm like, 280 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 3: I've started playing Circle Boys every day, Like I got 281 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 3: that joint from the Benner Road all days and you 282 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like everybody was playing that Jone 283 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 3: my cousin played for roles. He was playing, he was 284 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: playing that jont So. Circle Boys was going from everywhere 285 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 3: fro Montgomery County to PG County and northeast and all that. 286 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 3: Like to me, I was like, Yo, what's what's different 287 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: than this than no Limit? You know what I'm saying? 288 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: But they never made and oy boys? What's different than 289 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 3: this then cash money? But you know, I'm I'm growing 290 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 3: up listening to this and I'm like, how come these 291 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 3: guys can't get what that is when I'm saying on 292 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: BT and you know what I'm saying, you like, and 293 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 3: they wasn't getting locked up like they was. They was 294 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 3: all free men at the time. So again, I just 295 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 3: think that DC music never really got like they once 296 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 3: like like you know what I'm saying, they tense, They 297 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: never really got it for real, like for the movement 298 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 3: that was happening when I was coming up, Like a 299 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: lot of people just didn't get didn't it didn't go. 300 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: Is it is? It is it somewhat on us as 301 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: the creatives that we've never collaborated in a way that 302 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: makes it feel like we're we're being the leaders of 303 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: of corraling the troops in a sense. 304 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 3: Well, I'm seeing it can go two ways, because you know, 305 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 3: I've probably done over forty features thirty something features for 306 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 3: people back home or put them on stuff whatever, you know, 307 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 3: like Faster, Big Fella, Black Cobang a gold Link. 308 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: I've worked with our Elennix. I've worked and see that's 309 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: my thing though with you, it's like Nigga, You're you're 310 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: you're ingrained in the fabric, right. You don't see what 311 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 312 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 3: It's just to me personally, like I just be like, 313 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 3: it's just stuff that makes me just just scratch my head. 314 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: Like remember during the pandemic, it was a young end. 315 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 3: I just liked how he sounded and I just like, man, 316 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: let me let me do a verse form whatever. He 317 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: was in a lot of trouble whatever, but like I 318 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: did a verse form and the Jones sound it sounds excellent, good, 319 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I even said, Ross, can 320 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 3: you post it to Ross? Posted it it's young and 321 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 3: posted the jont one time and like just went back 322 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 3: to whatever he was doing and like he didn't even 323 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 3: know the value of that. And then he hit me 324 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: like like two years later, like yo, I was tripping. 325 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 3: I should have like you think you think I got 326 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 3: nothing but love for you, but like you think I'm 327 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 3: going to do anything like and it be like that sometimes, 328 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 3: like people don't I try to embrace I tried to 329 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 3: embrace people. Man, I'm not trying to sign on nobody. 330 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, well you don't. I don't even 331 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 3: want to sign nothing. But I'm just saying, like, here's 332 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 3: my advice on da da da like and it just don't. 333 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 3: A lot of times it be like that, like back home, 334 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 3: and there's a lot of talent, a lot of talent, 335 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 3: but I mean there's like the rap style that has 336 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 3: become popular back home with the youngest It's something that 337 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 3: I kind of understand, but I don't know if it 338 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 3: has legs. I don't know if it has legs beyond 339 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 3: a certain place, like you know what I'm saying. 340 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: And I think that could be it too, because because 341 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: because the style, it always reminded me of it. 342 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 3: But that's just my that's my producer executive mind working. 343 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: Like I hear it, I'd be like, yo, I get 344 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 3: it kind of, but it doesn't seem like something that 345 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 3: could whereas like circle Boys or boys or the ogs 346 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 3: in front of me, like I could see why I 347 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 3: could I could see that work. I wonder why that 348 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: didn't work because it's it's on part with what I'm 349 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 3: hearing on the mainstream or even nonchalant five o'clock in 350 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 3: the morning, like like I don't to me, I'm like, 351 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 3: why she should have had definitely had a like a 352 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 3: more fruitful run than you know what I'm saying, and 353 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 3: just I mean, she got that, But I'm like this, 354 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 3: this woman is speaking about stuff that's going on in 355 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 3: the city, in the in the area that needs to 356 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 3: be heard from around this time in the nineties, and 357 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 3: it's like, why can't that go further? 358 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: Why did everything have to stop? 359 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 3: Like why they like junk Yard got signed to depth 360 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 3: Jam like what happened? 361 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: Like what happened? 362 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 3: Like what and maybe it could have been some internal 363 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 3: who knows, I don't know, But I always wonder about 364 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 3: that because like these were our opportunities for things to 365 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 3: happen for us on a regional way, and and and 366 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 3: and go go had two chances around that time doing 367 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 3: the back all that chucked a little bit around that 368 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 3: and then ain't Marie like and Beyonce Rich Harrison time 369 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 3: like you know people that they're like kind of cherry pit, 370 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 3: like can a little bit of go go a little bit? 371 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 3: Like I would have thought like it was some more 372 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 3: would it came from that? Like I thought Rich was 373 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 3: gonna change it, like for real, for real, I thought 374 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 3: he was going. I thought he was gonna really like 375 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 3: bring that sound like to another level. I often wonder 376 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: what happened, But you know, in. 377 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: The same we gotta get in there, because that's the 378 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: definitely same question I got because Rich was on. 379 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 3: A tear I think with that sign, I think I 380 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 3: think he maybe didn't. I don't know, maybe because because 381 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 3: even tone the Craig from b KS from back Home, 382 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 3: like my first misake, my first big mix safe, like 383 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 3: we did it. We had a lot of go go 384 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: but it was so it was like jazz samples and 385 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 3: we would like put Timbali's and like congos, but like 386 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 3: reveral subtlely like like almost as if knife one that 387 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 3: made go like put put use go go drums like 388 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 3: but and it was people loved it. But them two 389 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 3: niggas started bumping heads, and now we lost a couple 390 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 3: of potential legendary hip hop group. 391 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 392 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 3: Tone's doing doing his thing, Crags still doing this thing, 393 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 3: but what could have been? 394 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: Wow? I brought them. 395 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 3: I brought him the rock Nation and I remember Jay 396 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 3: Jay was trying to do something with them and they 397 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 3: was like, we don't know, but you don't know. Yeah, 398 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 3: I ain't trying, you know what I'm saying, Like it's 399 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 3: be stuff like that, you know what I'm saying. The 400 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 3: Crags still doing great. I think he got places on 401 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 3: Kendricken his albums. He's doing good. Tone, he's doing what 402 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: he's doing. He could definitely be a lot bigger. But 403 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 3: you know, there's sometimes people have gotten their own way, 404 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,479 Speaker 3: and a lot of these youngers right now they just 405 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 3: cannot stay out of trouble. It's it's it'd be like that, 406 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 407 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: I think you know. When I was coming up and 408 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, just kind of making my bones in the 409 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: city and and learning and figuring me out. When I 410 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: when I saw an opportunity to try and go to 411 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: another level, I was like, well, where can I go 412 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: where the competition is so out of control like that, 413 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: I won't I won't get no sleep. And when I 414 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: came to LA for the first time and made my 415 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: rounds and saw how many dope everything there was, and 416 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: saw like going away to college, bro, I said, I said, 417 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: whose house is that, who's caught? Whose building is? Who's 418 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: he do? What ship? Whose times? It allows you to 419 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: see further, and I was like, I was like, because 420 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,479 Speaker 1: it was the destination where everybody wanted to create. And 421 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta be I gotta be here. 422 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: I got to be here because anybody who's doing anything 423 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: on a on a on a level that's out of 424 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: this world, they're here and I need to be able 425 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: to see them. I need to be able to understand 426 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: what they're doing, and I need to be able to compete. 427 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 3: A lot of niggas can come in and lose their mind. 428 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 3: Well getting I'm not saying I didn't. I ain't gonna 429 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 3: lie to you and say what Dre Club didn't get 430 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 3: all my money. 431 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: It's what dreams come to die. 432 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 3: Man, Like a lot you know what I'm saying, A 433 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 3: lot of people done took that l men in lab. 434 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: If you don't, you gotta find a balance, you know 435 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And so I felt like if I 436 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: was at home. I felt like if I was at home, 437 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: it just would have been different. 438 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 3: Oh nah, for sure, But that he has a depth 439 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 3: in extreme no like LA is like DC, like the opposite, 440 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 3: Like you can't find no way to record, like you know, 441 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 3: like and even if you do, it's like I mean, 442 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 3: like you can't. I can't even explain how many times 443 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 3: I'd be in the studio like and like I could 444 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 3: feel the engineer like he has no idea like that 445 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 3: I'm like what I'm about to do? Like what I'm 446 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 3: about Like you have no idea that jay Z. I 447 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 3: just met with jay Z last week, Like I'm getting 448 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 3: that energy of like, oh here's a rapper, he's in 449 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 3: the studio, you know what I'm saying, Like there's there's 450 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 3: a there's a there's a there's a there's a there's 451 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 3: a hopelessness that's in the that was in the air 452 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 3: a lot, like there was a hopelessness that I had 453 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 3: to deal with, Like that was just in the air, 454 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: like like what you want to be a rapper? 455 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: All right? 456 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 3: But like you know what I'm saying, Like even when 457 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 3: I did have a little bit of motion, like it 458 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: was like a hopelessness. It's like and I feel like 459 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 3: I probably took that mentality with me, like that hopelessness 460 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 3: even when I was making even when I was doing 461 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 3: cool stuff, like I still had that like mentality of 462 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 3: like you know, it's like probably impositive syndrome because it's 463 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 3: like you you you your whole come up. 464 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: You just hear like how you not going to do it? 465 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: Or are you? 466 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, that's a fluke. That's not 467 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 3: gonna happen a game. That's a fluke. You know what 468 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 469 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: That's the crib type shit. 470 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 3: That's that's where I got where I got that from. 471 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: M hmm. 472 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 3: Like I I would imagine like when you the difference 473 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 3: you experienced me from a crib from the crib to 474 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 3: here was like like probably saying chills to your boy, 475 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 3: like like out in the night and day. You know 476 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like people like really understand like like what. 477 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: They take to make it here, Like you know what 478 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 479 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know though, it's crazy because we we 480 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 3: we we got we got so much time. We got 481 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 3: kids that learned instruments at like twelve years old. In 482 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 3: go go bands, you could literally be the next for real, 483 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 3: but you probably don't. See you probably don't probably don't 484 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 3: think of yourself that well. You probably never applaud yourself 485 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 3: that way, and that this is we're talking about what 486 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 3: what are is I'm probably like like bit like mid 487 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: nineties to like early two thousands, Like that's that's the 488 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 3: that's the vibe that I was getting, you know what 489 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 3: I'm saying a few people here and there. It was 490 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 3: like putting the battery in my back, like a lot 491 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 3: of the radio State Caress nights were putting ninety salads 492 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 3: a quick silver iron. They was you know, keeping me, 493 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 3: but like without them, like there was nobody saying like 494 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: until it was too late. 495 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: M hm. 496 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 497 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: Like I was like I started. 498 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 3: Really like you know, I made like I made the 499 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 3: Go Go Fusion song, and you know, I be do 500 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 3: neon with Backyard, and then I go do platinum with 501 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,479 Speaker 3: with the non Go Go people and just it just 502 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 3: and at that point it was unstoppable. But like it 503 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 3: was very very hard to like convince niggas that like 504 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be I'm gonna do it. Watch it's hard. 505 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 3: So I can't imagine. 506 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,719 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to answer this question or just make 507 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: this an assertion. I guess I've always felt like I've 508 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: always felt like you were more received, more well received 509 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: than you realized. M h. I've always felt like you're 510 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: as dope as you think you are, and there are 511 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: more people who think the way you think and the 512 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,719 Speaker 1: way we think than you realize. 513 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 3: Well some days, right, but then you gott I gotta 514 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 3: zoom out and be like, dog, I know I'm good, 515 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 3: I know real good. I think there's like things that 516 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 3: people will use to discredit be a lot sometimes or 517 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 3: they'd be like if I ever dared to speak up 518 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 3: for myself, oh he's complaining whatever, like and also I mean, brouh, 519 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 3: I've been. I don't think there's no been in I 520 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 3: don't think there's no active artists that's been on more 521 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 3: labels me. You know what I'm saying, I've been discarded. 522 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 3: You feel me, bounce back. I've been like discarded again, 523 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 3: bounce back I've been. You see where him, you see 524 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 3: where that artists? Okay, we're gonna take that artist this okay, 525 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 3: cool like and then bounce back again. So like to 526 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 3: be a nigga that been discarded and I have to 527 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 3: show niggas again. You know, I know a lot of 528 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 3: people I came in the game with they don't even 529 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 3: have to have no big single, like there's all eyes 530 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 3: on them when they drop. I always gotta have a 531 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 3: big single just to get into conversation again. So that 532 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: happening to you enough, you'll be like, I'm not trying 533 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 3: to hear all this, Like, yo, you better than You're 534 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 3: better than you to go. I don't be trying, like 535 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 3: I don't. I can't cause it's like somebody told me 536 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 3: last week that I wasn't tiying no more, like you 537 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like I can't even you know 538 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Like, But again that's why I try 539 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 3: not to get too out and not to get too 540 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 3: low at this point, Cuz again, I've been through some 541 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 3: shit in this industry. This jo't over really do it 542 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 3: some damage on. I'm just one of the niggas that's 543 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 3: honest enough to say it, like I'm I went my 544 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 3: heart on my I'll tell you how the truth. So 545 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 3: it's like, it's not that I think I'm not. I 546 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 3: think I'm one of them, but best rappers. I think 547 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 3: I'm one of the best. But it's almost to the 548 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 3: point that like and theig like me say that they 549 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 3: can like what does this guy think he is? Like 550 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 551 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 1: Most a lot of. 552 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 3: People can say that, but every rapper is supposed to 553 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 3: say to me for some reason, like who does he 554 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 3: think he is? Like, so I just be like, all right, 555 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 3: I won't listen to the good or the bad, Like, 556 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 3: just let me just do what I do. So that's 557 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 3: probably why you think that I feel that way. Yeah, 558 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 3: And I don't think you have to stop saying it though. 559 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: Either. 560 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 3: I just told HIMNI go on Twitter this morning, I 561 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:45,239 Speaker 3: got the album yea, and they be like rap out 562 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 3: may I said no, I said an album. 563 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: I said album because I'm not living. 564 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 3: I don't like it's an album, not rap, I said, 565 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 3: album Spriena Garbage, I'm on your ass, like, yeah, like 566 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 3: an album Olivia Dean, I fuck with you, Charley, but 567 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 3: I'm trying to be in Listen all that shit, cool 568 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 3: man like whatever album. 569 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, so listen to this. 570 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 3: Listen to the album and tell me that we're not 571 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 3: jeenre Bendon telling me not we're not telling consistent stories. 572 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 3: Tell me the production ain't a one album Album of 573 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 3: the Year Grammy voters, that's an album. 574 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 5: Let's let's talk about this new album. In the new 575 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 5: space that you're in, right and and you. 576 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 4: Going to a new label, being in a new situation, 577 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 4: do you feel like that allowed you more freedom from 578 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 4: a creative sense to go and you know, be in 579 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 4: partnership with a guy like Tunji. One of the biggest 580 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 4: misconceptions about my time with MMG is that I didn't 581 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 4: have freedom because you know, my first album attention deficit 582 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 4: was with Mark. 583 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 3: I didn't really know what I didn't. I was just 584 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 3: really good at writing verses and then I you know, 585 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 3: I like, I liked what I like, like I'm I'm 586 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 3: in London with him for three months. I'm like learning 587 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 3: with Justice and MG team that DM will sounded like, 588 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 3: so I like that. So I was kind of like 589 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 3: a lot of these things. And looking back, it is like, 590 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: you know, I don't think Jimmy Iven knew what to do, 591 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: Like he just didn't know like DC, but he's wrapping 592 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 3: on MGMT and all this other stuff. So you know, 593 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 3: cool left Interscope and went to this Warner slash MMG. 594 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 3: Like I'm in a studio, we're making We're making self 595 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 3: made one. I'm like looking, I'm just I'm I'm like, 596 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 3: I'm I'm have access to beats that I ain't of 597 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 3: it like half before. So I'm just like I'm learning, 598 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 3: I'm learning and picking up on stuff. And you know, 599 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 3: after that joint, I went to New York and just 600 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 3: made that album and that didn't nobody tell me what 601 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 3: songs to pick, No, nothing that creativity then, you know 602 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So I don't know, I don't think 603 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 3: nothing ever really changed. I just think that I knew 604 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 3: that Niggas wasn't it might be like pulling a little 605 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 3: bit of teeth to make a song like Blanco on 606 00:30:55,120 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 3: uh at that at that point, because you know, I 607 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 3: just think it might've been a big ass you know 608 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 3: what I'm saying my and also my sining just got 609 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 3: better just because of learning what I can do. So 610 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 3: but I don't really see that much because I was 611 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 3: doing stuff like chain music and I rapped from the 612 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 3: perspective of a Jesus chain like you know what I'm saying, 613 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 3: Like that's that's artistry. I rapped from the perspective of 614 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 3: crap in the eighties and DC like it was a 615 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 3: woman like these are strongs that I did when I 616 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 3: was on MG. That's creativity, you know what I'm saying. 617 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 3: But I think the aesthetic is all people were seeing, 618 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 3: even though my esthetic was my esthetic. I'm coming through 619 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 3: one of my phone posits that got my two strands 620 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 3: twins to Goma. Whatever he was wearing, I was wearing 621 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 3: sob and everything, like you know what I'm saying. So 622 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 3: I think it was them seeing that, like like I don't. 623 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 3: I don't know if some people knew that I see 624 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 3: myself as an urban act. I think maybe they saw 625 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 3: me as a pop at endoscope at first. 626 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. 627 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 3: That's the only way I can make sense of it. 628 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 3: But the creativity has always been there to me. I 629 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 3: think it's flourishing more on an album because I have 630 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 3: been by my completely by myself, you know what I'm saying, 631 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 3: Maybe they're receiving it differently or allowing myself to hear it. 632 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: Oh. 633 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 3: I pushed the creativity just with songs like Blanco and 634 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 3: Lonely and Corner Bottles, but it was always there. 635 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: And I also think that like sometimes and I experienced 636 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: this in moving, whether it be a label or it 637 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: be a you know, a agency, you know what I'm saying, 638 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: a booking or whatever, there's this new excitement. There's this 639 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: new building of people that are like, oh, we we 640 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: know what to do. We were lined up, and for me, 641 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: it gave me something extra in the spirit of motivation 642 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: and this newness of this new relationship, you know what 643 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Like when you get in, get in this 644 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: new relationship with this, with this, with this new girl, 645 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, let me let mean you know what 646 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I mean flowers, Let me get some flowers. 647 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: You ain't got flowers in a long time, you know 648 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you ain't. You ain't you normally 649 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: open the door, that's normally your thing, but you you 650 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: really getting the door. It's time of no, let me 651 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: get that for you know what I'm saying. You know 652 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, get her, get her the tomahawk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 653 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's that newness that that happens, 654 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: I think organically because you feel this new influx of 655 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: appreciation and love and commitment that I think sometimes lines 656 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: up with the timing of where you are artistically, and 657 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: that magic alone, it just does something different that it 658 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: just hasn't done before. Like now you drop this song. 659 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: First of all, I was angry. I was angry because 660 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: I told Guapole I was going to flip that too lately. No, 661 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: it's not, and it's not. It's more than one way, 662 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: skin cap Listen. No, y'all did it. It's done. It's 663 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: fucking done. This motherfucking here. And I said, Nigga, you 664 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: and him together, so it's done. I appreciate it. 665 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 5: Y'all make great records together too, though you and Leon 666 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 5: make great records together. 667 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: I think it's that that musical mind. It's like, that's 668 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: what I'm telling you that I'm understanding what you're saying. 669 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: It's people are not really, they're not understanding the musicality 670 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: that you're connected to. Like the way you're creating this ship. 671 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 1: And that's why you and that nigga, two fucking musical 672 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: geeks can come together and create some ship that's all 673 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: of a sudden, a fucking samaranthem. 674 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not at summer yet, but when you might 675 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 3: tell me it wasn't on billboard. Yeah, so that's why 676 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. We don't count our chickens. 677 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, ship, You don't want billboard 678 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 3: bill boy. Yeah, things that make it, things that make 679 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 3: it go anyway, don't let me see Hey, listen, listen 680 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 3: what one thing. One thing that thing can't tell you 681 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 3: is what the people say. 682 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: Right. Oh, well, you see what I'm saying. Hard tickets. 683 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: That tell you what the people talking about. Hello, hello, 684 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: hard tickets. You see what I'm saying. When the tourists booked, 685 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: that means the people are talking. Yeah, we come see 686 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: it's on tourists. Everybody starts shout it, shout it shouted. 687 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: May twenty fifth, Yeah, oh month of June. Me and 688 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: every city that you know, we're gonna do this. Yeah, 689 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: Me and Smino. Yeah, party, a lot of a lot 690 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: of beautiful gals. I like the rooms I like. I 691 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: like all of it. I like all of it, like 692 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: the record, like the direct, complete direction of the album. 693 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: Like and maybe I'm speaking biased, you know what I'm saying, 694 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: because we're from the same place and I've always thought 695 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: you were super dope, But I feel like I feel 696 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: like now now, now, whatever's around you, whoever's connected to you, 697 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: this timing for you is a very very important time. 698 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 3: I'm super agree with that I got like I know, 699 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 3: like I have I've had like multiple times where like 700 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 3: a boy, you got one. You better know what I'm saying, 701 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,959 Speaker 3: This one's different because it's like I took a little 702 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 3: bit off. So I'm I'm holding onto my my little tribe, 703 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 3: my people that that's around me, and I'm trying to 704 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 3: kind of leave it like that, like let's just keep 705 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 3: doing it, like you know what I'm saying, Like like 706 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 3: I'm very aware of like what's happening right now, you 707 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I'm trying to keep that like 708 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 3: community like that so the output can still be and 709 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 3: I don't have to deal with different energies are different, 710 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 3: you know. I wish I really like it'd be a 711 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 3: dream to have my like my own like soul quarians. 712 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like somebody who I know 713 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 3: can do this whenever somebody can do that, and I 714 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 3: could do that for them, but I don't know the 715 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 3: way twenty twenty six is set up. Everybody just like 716 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 3: be out for them and like that. But you know, 717 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 3: I'm hold on to who's around me for shure. 718 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 4: I feel like you're putting that out there though it 719 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,919 Speaker 4: comes back you saying you want that and it's something 720 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 4: that you that you're looking for. It could be people 721 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 4: that because that's the other thing too, right, Like we're 722 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 4: all in this industry, but sometimes everybody got their things 723 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 4: that they're doing. 724 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: It's it right. 725 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 4: But then when you put that out there and that 726 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 4: is somebody else that may be on the same frequency 727 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 4: as you says, oh you know what I heard? Why 728 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 4: I like say that, let me tap in with it. 729 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 4: Even somebody that may already you might be cool with, 730 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 4: just don't know that you're open to that. 731 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, you know what I mean. 732 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 4: Like one thing that Tricky said when he was on here, 733 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 4: when he said, you know about needing a team and 734 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 4: putting that team together, you know what I mean, Like 735 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 4: in figuring out what that is, and being honest and 736 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 4: open enough to say that, like, Yo, this is something 737 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 4: I want to do outside of or on top of 738 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 4: what I'm already doing that because it's like I just 739 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 4: I really want to push black music. I really want 740 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 4: to push it, like I really want to, like like 741 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 4: shit gets stale, like like we got somewhere else to 742 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 4: go or like make that next album. It's like a 743 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 4: complete other sound like you know what I'm saying, Like 744 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,439 Speaker 4: we all know the music nerves. We know like Mike, 745 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 4: he really wanted to separate from his brothers and really 746 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 4: put these new sounds together and he found Quincy and 747 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 4: like he really like he knew exactly what he wanted 748 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 4: and he it can't sound nothing like what I've done before. 749 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 4: Like that mindset is something out Like it's like I'm 750 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 4: obsessed with it because it's like there's so many ways 751 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 4: to do so many things, like and it's like it's 752 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 4: rare that like I'll be in the studio a lot 753 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 4: of people and I try to explain certain things and 754 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 4: it's like I can tell us like this messenger, you 755 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And I hate that. But it's 756 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 4: like sometimes like a nigga, like Eric Bellinger one of 757 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 4: the best voices. I'll be like like whenever, whenever, like 758 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 4: he get to doing all his melodies and I start that. 759 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 4: When that, when that w and I start putting the 760 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 4: poetry in, I feel so like vindicated, Like I want 761 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 4: to I want to do that on a more like 762 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 4: more often with people that like trust this process or whatever. 763 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 4: Like that's like a big thing because I'm the next 764 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 4: thing that if I can do the next thing what 765 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 4: I'm trying to do right, it's gonna shake it up 766 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 4: even more because I gave hints. 767 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: Of it on his album, but it's more to be done. 768 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 1: As we're talking to ell Mean earlier, it's a great 769 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 1: time to be creative. Yeah, it is like now it is. 770 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 3: It also is like around sometimes it's a little bit 771 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 3: frustrating though, because it's so much music coming up. It's 772 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 3: so much like it really shouldn't be a job of 773 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 3: a consumer that's spent like an hour and a half 774 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 3: trying to find what they like, you know what I'm saying. 775 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: Like it shouldn't. 776 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 3: And it's like people like music for different reasons now, 777 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 3: like there's a good population that like something just because 778 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 3: it's ironic. It's like it's kind of not good and 779 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 3: it ended up blowing up a little bit, like it's 780 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 3: just in a weird place and like you know, you 781 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 3: see Leon Thomas on stage with it, like he's just 782 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 3: like stokedly all over again, singing, play guitar, play the drums, crazy, 783 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 3: like you should be talking about this actually more than 784 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 3: we are talking about it. 785 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: But there's so much. 786 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 3: Coming out that there's about a hundred there's a hundred 787 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 3: fuckers that sound exactly the same, a hundred like the 788 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 3: whispers sing girls like the Whiskey's in the jar and 789 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 3: I got it going, park Man, I'm going like like 790 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, like that it's cool, but 791 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 3: it's like a lot and you know what I'm saying. 792 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 3: So there's a lot of shit in a way. So 793 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 3: it's like when you are creative, if you kind of 794 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 3: can get lost in the lost in this thing. So 795 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 3: what's your thoughts on gatekeepers? Like do we need them 796 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 3: because some people say we don't. Uh, it depends because 797 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 3: I mean I'm a nigga. That's like, man, these niggas 798 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 3: is like like the y'all gate keeping the access to 799 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 3: what I really like, like I wanted I wanted to 800 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 3: work with Jimmy jam Terry Lewis so bad, and I'm like, 801 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 3: I'm asking a couple of people like and it was 802 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 3: like I can feel, you know what I'm saying, gate 803 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 3: keeper Boom, Now Rogers, I want to work with Now Roders, 804 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 3: I want to do some black pop, like black disco 805 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,919 Speaker 3: stuff and just write it and da da da. Taming Paul. 806 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 3: I'm trying to get the tame Paul. I'm trying to 807 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 3: mix him like with some stuff from home. And I 808 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 3: got some ideas. So I can't access a lot of 809 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 3: niggas that that people think I can that I reached 810 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 3: out to. And that's gate keeping right there, you know 811 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But I just like, but I'm also 812 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 3: trying to I don't think that's the same gatekeeping. We 813 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 3: ain't it when when somebody saying you can't, I'm. 814 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 4: Talking about like control right where you're like like like 815 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,439 Speaker 4: putting put and less stuff like left them uploading less 816 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 4: stuff on the e streaming services. Yeah, I mean where 817 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 4: you have we're obviously we have right where you have 818 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 4: people that you had to take it to and it 819 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 4: had to pass a certain level. 820 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 3: We had on Julie Green walls andre stuff like that 821 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 3: we don't really have all we don't because we. 822 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 4: Exactly with the Wild West and it's been pushed out. 823 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 4: So that's why I asked, like. 824 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,240 Speaker 1: What he said, there's so much coming out because there's 825 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,720 Speaker 1: no's no getting it's so easy. 826 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 3: It's so easy to upload, upload it from your room, 827 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 3: like there's no process to print it out and do 828 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 3: the photo shoot and do all the stuff. Like it's 829 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 3: just kind of easy, like the process has got cheaper. 830 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, like maybe the gate keeper, 831 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 3: like maybe the fact that it is the wild Wild 832 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 3: West is making niggas work harder, but the niggas at 833 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 3: the top work harder. But to me, it's just sad 834 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,919 Speaker 3: when it's like I hear like some music that's well 835 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 3: thought out, well produced, well arranged and everything, and it's 836 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 3: it's like stuck on a playlist with like a troll 837 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 3: song and the song that's like not good, Like that's 838 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 3: it frustrates me to see artists go through that. 839 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: I also think that I also think that on the 840 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: positive side of it, it separates separates the week from 841 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: the tear, like because in order to be heard amongst 842 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,879 Speaker 1: all of this noise, you gotta be special. Yeah, there's 843 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: a special spectrum, and then there's this is absolutely ridiculous 844 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: and it's just gonna cut through. Right. But when I'm 845 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: just talking about the truly special things and the people 846 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:45,840 Speaker 1: that are truly special, those conversations speak like the people 847 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: who are who are being heard. And as we go 848 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: back to Leon Thomas, like that's an unavoidable conversation because 849 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: it's just that special. Yeah, and like you said, it 850 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: needs to be screamed more. Yeah, and it's and it's 851 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:10,280 Speaker 1: cutting through, not because so much of the screaming conversation, 852 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,320 Speaker 1: which he deserves, but back to it's just fucking incredible. 853 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's it's it's up to us all 854 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 4: too to be a part of that, Yeah, to be 855 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 4: a part of that conversation, to be a part of 856 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 4: the promotion of it. 857 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 5: And toot. 858 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:33,240 Speaker 3: There's there's platforms, man, you know, there's platforms that again 859 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 3: that that won't reach until like well you know he 860 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 3: got the multiple grammy so and the mmkay kline like 861 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,879 Speaker 3: they both in another conversation. But I've seen Kate work 862 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 3: for ten years to get to what, you know, what 863 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 3: I'm saying. So, yeah, it's it's It's a tricky thing though, 864 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 3: and I don't want to be the person to say 865 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 3: because I am the messenger that they're going to kill, 866 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 3: so I don't don't it's no, don't kill the messenger. 867 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 3: They already lined me up from like fifteen things I 868 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 3: said already is already gonna be like I'm happy today, 869 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 3: I'm just happy to my phone off. 870 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: But no, I think that you know everything, everything that 871 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 1: you're saying. Like for us, it's like it's like giving 872 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 1: given our guys an opportunity to to speak context, you 873 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 1: know what I mean. A lot of people want a 874 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 1: lot of people want these sound bites and these clicks 875 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 1: to create some type of dissension or negativity and use 876 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: that as an algorithm builder for that platform. And that's 877 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: why we wanted you on our platform, because we wanted 878 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 1: you to be able to speak in context and and 879 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:42,919 Speaker 1: have your voice heard, the entire thought of your voice heard. 880 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 1: And I think that's the important part of it, because 881 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: people will have to be able to hear the whole conversation, 882 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: and that's what that's why we wanted you here. I'm 883 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 1: like the nigga's dope. You just you have to listen 884 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,879 Speaker 1: to what he's saying, but your listen to the whole thing, 885 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,359 Speaker 1: and that's what we're about. That's why you're here. That's 886 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,400 Speaker 1: what nigga. When you say you are who you are, nigga, 887 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: we actually wanted to believe it. I appreciate that and 888 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: support it. I appreciate that, you know what I'm saying, 889 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,359 Speaker 1: and I just I just need you, man, I need 890 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 1: you know. I'm not gonna go to that. You know. 891 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: You know I'm right here, man, and I'm right here 892 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: that uh as we as we as we speak music. 893 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 1: I'm also like, as I alluded to, in terms of 894 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 1: your artistry, I feel like you're you're one of the 895 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: rare ones that that that are complete artists because it 896 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,919 Speaker 1: doesn't just stop in the studio for you, like you're 897 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: always I think artistry is so many things like and 898 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 1: it starts first with when you walk in the room 899 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: and people see you. That's the first thing. And every 900 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: time I see you, I'm like, oh this about to 901 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:08,320 Speaker 1: get on stage? Man? What does that mean? They compliment me? 902 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,320 Speaker 1: That's why I get nervous. 903 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 3: What I mean, Like my Jay Rok, that compliment got 904 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 3: me on the road. 905 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: What what's that? What is that? 906 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 3: Positivity? Is supposed to mean something positive, but that's the 907 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 3: that to me, like that can get lost for artists. 908 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 3: How do you mean, because how you present yourself as 909 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 3: an artist. 910 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 1: Is so important and so key because a lot of 911 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,839 Speaker 1: times the conversation can be about your music, but then 912 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 1: also the conversation can be about you as an individual, 913 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 1: like you're you're the things that are organic to you, 914 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 1: your style and your move and how you move and 915 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 1: all of these things. Although that is directly a correlation 916 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 1: within your artistry. And I think I'm celebrating you and 917 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,320 Speaker 1: giving you a compliment all at the same time, I 918 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 1: think you do a great job of that. You don't 919 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 1: I don't you don't chase, You don't chase in that space, 920 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,839 Speaker 1: Like to me, you have a thing that is very 921 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 1: wilaya that it's connected organically to the music. 922 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it's being stubborn. I guess you 923 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 3: Like this is really like I ain't never really I 924 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 3: never really been like a clique person in this industry, 925 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 3: Like I kind of just be doing my own thing 926 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 3: because I seen too much like early, so you know, 927 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,280 Speaker 3: I never really got too much influence from from nothing 928 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 3: but nobody, especially in the industry. 929 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 930 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 3: I think I think I look home and influenced me 931 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 3: more than anything. 932 00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely absolutely, which leads me into and I want 933 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,879 Speaker 1: to make sure I'm saying that's right. This this Nike 934 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 1: collabse Yeah, I mean you gotta say something about that. 935 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: It's fun. 936 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 3: It was cool charging my man Malachi, you know, Don 937 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 3: and everybody here, But uh it was it just good. 938 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 3: It was like a little they wanted to launch a 939 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 3: new model. You know what I'm saying. It's not easy 940 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 3: to launch my new model. It's easy to do colorways, 941 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 3: not easy to launch a. 942 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 1: Brand new model. So was they model model off their 943 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 1: new model? So it was good. 944 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,879 Speaker 3: My man Frank you know, you know them good guys 945 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,879 Speaker 3: in Nike basketball. They put to play together U kaz Andy. 946 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:43,239 Speaker 3: They worked with my creative director Pier and they put 947 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 3: it together and that was a little moment for the city. 948 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 3: And then we got like a really really really really 949 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 3: really limited Nike boot. 950 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 4: So I don't know, was that something you always set out, 951 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 4: uh like earlier because you said you worked at shoe stores. 952 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 3: I set out. I set out to do some things 953 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 3: in the sneaker business. Yeah, I still I haven't achieved 954 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 3: them yet, but you know, this, this was this was good, 955 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,840 Speaker 3: this was cool. Well, this Nike thing that we just 956 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 3: did was good. But I got big dreams. It's a 957 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 3: hell of a start though. Yeah Nike, Yeah, it's not normal. 958 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: It's good. Good called me. They can't call me do 959 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 1: nothing like. It's very few people that don't play a professionals. 960 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:31,840 Speaker 1: I can only name two. 961 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 5: Kevin Hart, three, three who you Travis? 962 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:44,880 Speaker 1: And yeah? Four so four four that's off the top 963 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: of my head. I can name more. But that would 964 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: that would that would? 965 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 3: You know? I don't want to take away from what 966 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 3: you'll point you're trying to make. It's a good thing, 967 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 3: not just a good thing. I just I don't get it. 968 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 3: I don't get like overly excited about stuff that I 969 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 3: know that it could be way more. It's a colorway 970 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 3: to a shoe. They launched it, I got, I got 971 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,839 Speaker 3: a gazillion people are mad at me because they ain't 972 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,359 Speaker 3: get them. You know what I'm saying. 973 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 1: Who knows if we're going to do anything else, it 974 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 1: might just be that. So I don't know, you don't know. 975 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get excited. Well, if we do more with Nike, 976 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,800 Speaker 3: I will come in here doing cartwheels. Let's see what 977 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 3: you think about right, You're all right? 978 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 1: Then? Is that right? Then I answer? 979 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 3: Then I answered, I don't want you to get no 980 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 3: car likeey huh okay, yeah, cause now you know it's 981 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 3: like you know, you know, like there's a lot like 982 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 3: a lot. The major shoe company has been trying to 983 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,880 Speaker 3: do something with me for a while, but you know, 984 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,320 Speaker 3: I don't want to do stuff for like more stuff 985 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 3: DC culture, more stuff like soccer not Jeria soccer like 986 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 3: more stuff like just more ideas, more camps, more like 987 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 3: fashion like DC fashion like a CGS like more innovation 988 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 3: more or more just like I know, I know what 989 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 3: I know what I bring to the table. They know 990 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 3: what I bring to the table. That's why they launched 991 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 3: a new model with with us so and it was 992 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 3: it's very successful. So if I can get into my 993 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 3: sway back, no where you're going? Are there any you 994 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:21,320 Speaker 3: got the dancers? 995 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 1: Are there any hold ups in terms of you you 996 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,840 Speaker 1: you're doing your own putting this moving together? What with 997 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,759 Speaker 1: everything you're talking with me? 998 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 3: Not really not really maybe a little bit maybe resources 999 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 3: maybe or you know, the partnership, like you know, those 1000 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,759 Speaker 3: things don't happen. It's like they're easy, but there's you know, 1001 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,319 Speaker 3: there's a couple of hurdles. It's not like you can 1002 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:48,920 Speaker 3: just roll out of bed and start something like that. 1003 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 3: But you know there's something that depth that's definitely like 1004 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,880 Speaker 3: on the move board, like you're trying with this. 1005 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 1: This is a strong possibility. 1006 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 3: But you know, the main thing, the main thing right now, 1007 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,320 Speaker 3: touring big records, got it, got it, a little film 1008 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,880 Speaker 3: mantle say this little film, little. 1009 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 1: Film, and what's what's going on? 1010 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 3: I can't really say, but like you know, I'm not 1011 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 3: all the way down with that yet. 1012 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:21,759 Speaker 1: I just think in this, you know, I don't. I 1013 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,880 Speaker 1: don't especially in that that organically makes sense to you, 1014 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,919 Speaker 1: Like if while if while they dropped the line, I'm 1015 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,799 Speaker 1: checking to see what that is, absolutely man, But that's 1016 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 1: why I like, you do that, me, I do that. 1017 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 1: I need to do that right. 1018 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 3: I need to do it one hundred percent right, yeah, 1019 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 3: the first time, but now as a as a gazillion 1020 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 3: sneaker company. So you know, but that that's that, that's 1021 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 3: that's something that takes a lot of time, a lot 1022 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 3: of band with a pretty decent team to do it right. 1023 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 1: But it also takes it also takes an entity that 1024 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:02,320 Speaker 1: we trust, right, so as we as we as we 1025 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 1: said with Yea, like we had seen him doing so 1026 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 1: much in terms of evolving from a fashion point to 1027 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,880 Speaker 1: where when he dropped something, it was a certain trust 1028 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,719 Speaker 1: that we had in wearing his name. Yeah right, yeah, 1029 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:24,920 Speaker 1: And so for you, you've always been in this space 1030 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 1: of Nigga from a fashion standpoint, I do something different 1031 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,960 Speaker 1: than nobody else. Does. I own this space right here? 1032 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 1: And so that's what that's my mind saying that Nigga, 1033 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 1: if you drop something, we're trusting that. 1034 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:38,839 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1035 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 3: I was like like a lot of companies like like 1036 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,840 Speaker 3: we're bet on that. But you know, I've been in 1037 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,279 Speaker 3: the rooms when they they don't they don't say they 1038 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 3: don't see it like that, you know what I'm saying. So, 1039 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 3: but you know, I much just see how this year 1040 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,719 Speaker 3: play out. But you know, we want to do what 1041 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,000 Speaker 3: we what we want to do bigger things, that's all. 1042 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,760 Speaker 5: Did you set out out musically. 1043 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 1: To mix. 1044 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 5: R and B in hip hop? 1045 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 1: Look? 1046 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 5: Was that like A Was that like a thing that 1047 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 5: in your mind you were like, I want to do 1048 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 5: these type of records. 1049 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 1: No. 1050 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 3: Never, all I wanted to do was made like when 1051 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,440 Speaker 3: I was first coming out like just like when like 1052 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,479 Speaker 3: nineteen eighteen, I think I was still in like boy 1053 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 3: in Virginia State at the time, Like they was like, uh, man, 1054 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,440 Speaker 3: you just you just a freestyle rapper, like you just 1055 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,279 Speaker 3: wrap on other people beats, like like you know, like 1056 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,400 Speaker 3: I was rapping on like whatever was hot at the 1057 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 3: time and Day was playing it. That was their first thing. 1058 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 3: You just you could you just rap on, you just freestyle, 1059 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,800 Speaker 3: You're a battle rapper. Then I remember Brad like I 1060 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,600 Speaker 3: don't I'm not trying I throw him under the bus, 1061 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,359 Speaker 3: but you know, at some point I'm about to say 1062 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 3: the name, so we're gonna use Rahien old Man, I don't. 1063 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 3: I forgot his name, Jerry Roy the wrong manager. No, 1064 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 3: but it was somebody. It was somebody because I remember 1065 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,840 Speaker 3: Marlin from a mine. It took me somewhere now belast 1066 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 3: somebody like I think it somebody Ryan can't like. And 1067 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 3: it was just like like I think I played like 1068 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,880 Speaker 3: Rhyme in the Century and Rhyme Century was like that 1069 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 3: shit got me in a source and everything like It's 1070 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,800 Speaker 3: just like a long like black Thought type of inspired record, 1071 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,879 Speaker 3: just me rapping and I remember like being so proud 1072 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 3: of that. Jont and I remember playing it in there, 1073 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,799 Speaker 3: and I remember Marlin told me like a little later, 1074 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,359 Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, he said, all you could do is rap, 1075 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 3: like you can't make a song song. So like that weekend, 1076 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 3: I made dig the like I just I was like, 1077 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 3: I'm on the way to work and I got to 1078 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 3: beat from Southeast Slim. 1079 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 1: I was just like, I just made it. I was like, 1080 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a song. I'm much just make this. 1081 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 3: Jump crank for no reason, just absolutely just crazy, just 1082 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 3: make and they started playing it blew up immediately. Then 1083 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,479 Speaker 3: they started saying he a go go rapper. You can't 1084 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,439 Speaker 3: make like you know what I'm saying. So my whole 1085 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,000 Speaker 3: that was my introduction to what Nigga telling me I 1086 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,360 Speaker 3: can and can't do. So from that point on, it 1087 00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,520 Speaker 3: is like when I make a song, that's that I 1088 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,920 Speaker 3: want people to enjoy in these places, I'm gonna make 1089 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,160 Speaker 3: it the best way I can. If I'm rapping, I'm 1090 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 3: just getting my shit off. I'm going to make it 1091 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,239 Speaker 3: as good as I can. They're gonna relate or not. 1092 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,200 Speaker 3: If I make some that I think might be leaning 1093 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,920 Speaker 3: to girls, whatever, I'm gonna make it as best as 1094 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 3: I can. Whether that be saying enough that make them 1095 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 3: get go or laugh, run it back, or make it 1096 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 3: enough that enough men will relate to what I'm saying. 1097 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's just whatever the arena 1098 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 3: is that I'm in, I'm gonna make it the best 1099 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 3: I can. I just think that women are more receptive 1100 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 3: because they just it's a song good, or that it's 1101 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,640 Speaker 3: not like, oh, you know there's other thing like niggas 1102 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 3: be having crushing off crushes on these other like rappers 1103 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 3: for them to like the song whatever. Like women just 1104 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 3: like the song it's good. So I've had success there. 1105 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 3: But I also think I have some of the best 1106 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 3: verses out of every year for the past fifteen years. 1107 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 3: I got some of the best verses of the year. 1108 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,600 Speaker 3: So you know, whatever is like, I get a knife 1109 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 3: one to be, I'm gonna I'm gonna try to smoke it. 1110 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 3: If I get you know, I get to Tony Tony 1111 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 3: Tony sample, I'm gonna want you try to give it. 1112 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,760 Speaker 3: Tell us, tell a story, make it consistent, put a 1113 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 3: little put a little ear worm here and there. Like 1114 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, I just make it the 1115 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 3: best that I can. Like whatever is in front of 1116 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 3: me that I'm excited about. 1117 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 1: H what's just the overview right now? What do you? 1118 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 1: What do you? What are you trying to tell people 1119 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,440 Speaker 1: with this project? Everything is a lot I'm trying to 1120 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,840 Speaker 1: tell them everything when you're manager walking bestaid. That is 1121 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 1: a wildlife title I've ever heard one. 1122 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 3: But from a from a from a but artist perspective, 1123 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 3: like just like, don't like stop comparing me to certain 1124 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 3: people from a music standpoint, like like stop putting me 1125 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,440 Speaker 3: in this box of Like just like this is just music. 1126 00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 3: Like Blanco was like a blue song. Lonely is like 1127 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,960 Speaker 3: another blue song, you know what I'm saying. Like there's 1128 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 3: a lot of genre bendon Like I write these I 1129 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 3: come up with these concepts like like look deeper into 1130 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,440 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like like I see y'all break a 1131 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 3: breakdown a lot of other people's music, like break this 1132 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 3: down just because I got the records on the radio. 1133 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,320 Speaker 3: Don't like, listen to what I'm saying, Like, listen to 1134 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,919 Speaker 3: it sound good, it feel good. Yeah, that's the first test. 1135 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 3: Now really go into what I'm saying. That's what I'm like, 1136 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 3: and I know, I know it hasn't really happened to 1137 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,920 Speaker 3: the highest level yet because there's some there's things in 1138 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,320 Speaker 3: that album people ain't gonna get into, like maybe like 1139 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 3: in the summer. 1140 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:39,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 1141 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,000 Speaker 3: It's all in there though. That's that's what I'm really 1142 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:46,440 Speaker 3: saying as an artist on this album. Again, it's a 1143 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:50,160 Speaker 3: great time to be creative, great too, great toom just 1144 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 3: just creative TikTok, dance with it too though. I like 1145 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,320 Speaker 3: creativity is cool for me. The algorithm, toad. Fuck your 1146 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 3: creativity wears with your camera and your angle, look in 1147 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,400 Speaker 3: your lighting look like give your dad bigger better, Dan, 1148 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 3: you better make something up man something marketing unfortunately, streaming 1149 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,640 Speaker 3: like Lincoln with streamers. That might be the thing too. 1150 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 3: I think that might be like kind of plateau on 1151 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 3: but it ain't just creativity. Well yeah, I mean I 1152 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:18,840 Speaker 3: just think that. 1153 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 1: I just think that the side of the time, you know, 1154 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 1: with Caliney, with with with Leon, with the way Chris 1155 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 1: is doing R and B, like with what's what's my 1156 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:33,680 Speaker 1: guys from Virginia clips? 1157 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:39,400 Speaker 3: With the clips, you know what I mean? Like, it's 1158 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,320 Speaker 3: that's talent at height. It's a good time to be 1159 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:48,320 Speaker 3: talented for sure. That's on a high level talented and and. 1160 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 1: We've just we've just been around long enough to see 1161 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:58,440 Speaker 1: the pendulum swing back in our favor. When you do 1162 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 1: it only if you're well. 1163 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,720 Speaker 3: I hope you all really like you know, I mean, 1164 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,400 Speaker 3: like even now we got the most, we've got the 1165 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,200 Speaker 3: obvious record move, but I'm still trying to take her out. 1166 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 1: Which one of my I don't even know. I don't 1167 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,280 Speaker 1: even know what the single is these days, but like 1168 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:17,480 Speaker 1: what's the next one after that? 1169 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,440 Speaker 5: Way doing well on TikTok? 1170 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:26,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, talk man, And is TikTok now yeah what 1171 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,280 Speaker 3: I'm saying? Yeah, But then you know what, but like 1172 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,600 Speaker 3: you know, like a song like tomorrow today, like like 1173 01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 3: I'm doing like four part harmonies on my on the joint, 1174 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,720 Speaker 3: Like people be like, I don't know how that song 1175 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:42,720 Speaker 3: is so catching. I'm like, see see I need you 1176 01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,040 Speaker 3: Like that's me man, Like talk about that like you 1177 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,400 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, like elevating the thing and making 1178 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:49,800 Speaker 3: it you know what I'm saying, making it makes sense. 1179 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,280 Speaker 3: So it's like sometimes i'd be like, let's just put 1180 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,040 Speaker 3: that up like you know what I'm saying, but I 1181 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 3: don't know it'd be great. They have like a couple 1182 01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,280 Speaker 3: of successful records on this album. I'll be fantastic, but 1183 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 3: we'll see you. I say something, let's let's see. 1184 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it's trend enough for you, brother, blood ahead. 1185 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,080 Speaker 1: The music, the music is speaking. And I think the 1186 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:13,920 Speaker 1: beauty of talk, the talks and and the twitters and 1187 01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,400 Speaker 1: all of these things is that, you know, as we 1188 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 1: are deciding to as we're deciding where to put this bag, 1189 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 1: need to give us some of the answers. 1190 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:28,520 Speaker 3: Hey, does anybody have another label? List water with microplastics? 1191 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 3: Getty this label less though they have to pay for that. 1192 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:39,280 Speaker 3: This is R and B money. 1193 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:44,440 Speaker 1: You know that's what we need. R and B money waters, 1194 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 1: R and B money water, is it? 1195 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:46,600 Speaker 7: No? 1196 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,400 Speaker 3: You got y'all need the throat coat like the y'all 1197 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,040 Speaker 3: need to be the McDonald's of throat coat because everybody 1198 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 3: needs the honey. 1199 01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:55,320 Speaker 1: I've been trying to get this honey. 1200 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 3: You should be R and B water Honey and R 1201 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:02,919 Speaker 3: and B water tea, my army money tea. I won't 1202 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:08,360 Speaker 3: thank more specific singer singer, singers, singers, binger singer. Every 1203 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,840 Speaker 3: time I be backstage with her, I like the bigger 1204 01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:13,800 Speaker 3: the artists, the more funny it is. But that way, 1205 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 3: like the ship that they go through to get it 1206 01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:20,440 Speaker 3: where they gotta go. But everybody to coke dot coke, 1207 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,080 Speaker 3: don't got it. Coat, don't got a PEPSI don't coat, 1208 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,400 Speaker 3: don't got to like it. Don't they got they got 1209 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 3: they got coat. 1210 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 1: That's all you know. I think that shoul work work. 1211 01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,480 Speaker 1: See it don't matter, like let the people decide. 1212 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:33,520 Speaker 5: Nigga, you just cold, nigga. 1213 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 1: Nigga. You sometimes throw a little whiskey in that jump. 1214 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,200 Speaker 1: That's probably what did it. Probably what did it? No 1215 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,240 Speaker 1: I had when I was down there with Tricky, they 1216 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,880 Speaker 1: gave me some tea because I normally don't drink tea 1217 01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,640 Speaker 1: when I sing. You start sweating now. And he was like, 1218 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,520 Speaker 1: he was like, he's like, how you feel like? I 1219 01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:56,840 Speaker 1: feel good? I was like, I just gotta, you know, 1220 01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:58,880 Speaker 1: rest up for the next take. He was like, just 1221 01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,400 Speaker 1: he just told him to get some tea and I'm 1222 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,800 Speaker 1: gonna drink tea during right, And I drink that tea 1223 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 1: and blab it up every take. I was like, is cooking? 1224 01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:15,080 Speaker 1: This is new? I've done this before, so I might 1225 01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:16,200 Speaker 1: have to What sen tea was? 1226 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:16,800 Speaker 5: I don't know. 1227 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 1: They put that thing in this thing. God damn God, damn. 1228 01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 3: So they haven't set the best of I've been in 1229 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 3: the studio one time, like, damn, why I'm on my 1230 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 3: fifth song? What damn the damn fun was in these 1231 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:33,680 Speaker 3: mother fucking down laders. Man, it was a little bitter, 1232 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,920 Speaker 3: But the fuck is this? I thought it was a 1233 01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:36,480 Speaker 3: B twelve. 1234 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,480 Speaker 1: It will B one hundred and twenty twelve. You on 1235 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,480 Speaker 1: right now? Just keep recording what y'all do to me 1236 01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:45,120 Speaker 1: with that tea. 1237 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:49,560 Speaker 3: But now I'm not like learning how that like even now, 1238 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,440 Speaker 3: like I sang so much on the album and like 1239 01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:54,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, like I'm really going to be on 1240 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 3: that stage on this tour like saying I do it sometimes, 1241 01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,160 Speaker 3: but it's like, you know, I'm like, I'm like really 1242 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:02,760 Speaker 3: trying to learn how to like use I'm trying to 1243 01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,440 Speaker 3: learn to use my ship more either. Yeah, you know 1244 01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,680 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But one thing I'll tell you about 1245 01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:14,439 Speaker 3: saying on stage is that is that the live version 1246 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:15,760 Speaker 3: can be the live version. 1247 01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,720 Speaker 5: Mm hmm, and they don't get caught up in it 1248 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 5: and then trying to make it perfect. 1249 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 3: And I just I think right now, I think I 1250 01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,880 Speaker 3: just be trying to figure out what what where do 1251 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,760 Speaker 3: I do? I like what part am I committed to 1252 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,720 Speaker 3: the top line? The top line or the backgrounds? 1253 01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,439 Speaker 1: Like like where what I take? Like you know either 1254 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,880 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say this, whichever one is more comfortable. 1255 01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,440 Speaker 1: And now I gotta do this cover. I gotta do 1256 01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:47,560 Speaker 1: a cover for BBC in London, And I'm like, who 1257 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,080 Speaker 1: the fuck? Like I don't like when somebody elseid it 1258 01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:54,760 Speaker 1: was like do something from Queen? I said, Freddie Mercury, 1259 01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:56,800 Speaker 1: you want them to lynch me in London? To drive 1260 01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,240 Speaker 1: with Preddie Mercury ship? You know your national tragic? What 1261 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:01,400 Speaker 1: you want to come out there? Dude? 1262 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:02,000 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1263 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,800 Speaker 3: Man, I mean not the a't know one by death 1264 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:06,880 Speaker 3: you don't got really, but I don't even want touch nothing. 1265 01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,600 Speaker 3: But I can't sing like that, like like you know 1266 01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,840 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like and that ship, I'm thinking about. 1267 01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:12,080 Speaker 1: It every day. 1268 01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,280 Speaker 3: How do I get out of this ship? Mm hmm 1269 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 3: that's singing ship man love. I can do it with 1270 01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:18,960 Speaker 3: the Go Go bands. I got a perfect go go 1271 01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:23,440 Speaker 3: singing voice. But like, like, what is the frame of 1272 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:28,280 Speaker 3: that that can be taken into the other space? What 1273 01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,480 Speaker 3: is the frame of that that makes you comfortable that 1274 01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,240 Speaker 3: you can take I just think that like most of 1275 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 3: the time I've ever had to sing, I've been right 1276 01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,960 Speaker 3: with like Trey's band, and they know how to like 1277 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,240 Speaker 3: morphit around. If I start coming up with something and 1278 01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,200 Speaker 3: I start just going into like smells like teen spirit, They'll. 1279 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,320 Speaker 1: Get, They'll get, they'll fix it. 1280 01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,160 Speaker 3: They'll do all the stuff that makes me comfortable that 1281 01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,480 Speaker 3: I don't know all the music nerve stuff like that 1282 01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,520 Speaker 3: makes me sound good because I do just friends music. 1283 01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,240 Speaker 3: Ereay show I do that. I do the first verse 1284 01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,480 Speaker 3: of that as a transition. So I'm I got it 1285 01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,160 Speaker 3: like a forty percent from the field with that joint. 1286 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,560 Speaker 1: Some of them joint. Some of them sometimes I can, like, 1287 01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:07,240 Speaker 1: you know, but when. 1288 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,120 Speaker 3: I get it right, they'd be like, damn, well, ain't 1289 01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,600 Speaker 3: know you was saying, So you want to teach me 1290 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:12,040 Speaker 3: how to sing? 1291 01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can teach you how to say. 1292 01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:20,560 Speaker 1: I've never taught singing. Now, if you serious? I got 1293 01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:25,320 Speaker 1: a guy. I just talked to Robert. I just talked 1294 01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:25,880 Speaker 1: to find out. 1295 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 2: I got a guy. 1296 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:28,520 Speaker 5: Find out I I just talked to him. 1297 01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:29,800 Speaker 1: I find out. 1298 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 3: But let's just see how I sound with the jont 1299 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:36,040 Speaker 3: on more time, Like how wherever my plug is is? 1300 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:38,800 Speaker 3: I need to know what what I'm capable of singing. 1301 01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:44,680 Speaker 1: So and then yeah, and from a production standpoint, have 1302 01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:46,720 Speaker 1: them line up that sound, have them line up that 1303 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:50,760 Speaker 1: thing to where like you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. 1304 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,960 Speaker 1: So she's doing Olivia Dan Joint. You understand what I'm saying. 1305 01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,160 Speaker 1: Throw a little something on that microphone. Yeah, no, no, 1306 01:07:58,240 --> 01:07:59,960 Speaker 1: that I got that. I got to make sure you. 1307 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:04,959 Speaker 3: Dying for the one time. 1308 01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:06,560 Speaker 1: M h. 1309 01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:09,160 Speaker 3: I don't like, I don't really like all the I like. 1310 01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:10,560 Speaker 3: I like it to sound that I don't like to 1311 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:11,320 Speaker 3: sound like like. 1312 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:12,400 Speaker 1: R two D two. 1313 01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,560 Speaker 5: But it's just all in the levels. What's your favorite 1314 01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:16,120 Speaker 5: song before? 1315 01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,439 Speaker 3: I won't know to a sort of start mm hmm, 1316 01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:28,519 Speaker 3: maybe like maybe like loads or something they get that 1317 01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,320 Speaker 3: feeling before come on. I mean there's a couple of 1318 01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,960 Speaker 3: them to do that like I'm along with you though 1319 01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:39,040 Speaker 3: for me mm hmmm. Probably love the f bom Yeah, 1320 01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:44,000 Speaker 3: just because you know they wrapped it. They somebody that's 1321 01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,240 Speaker 3: the whole roscol tobacco that day when there was like 1322 01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 3: and I'm like, yeah, somebody said the hook does all 1323 01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:50,640 Speaker 3: this matters? And I'm like, you ain't never been no 1324 01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,200 Speaker 3: show because when I do loadus they sing they wrapping 1325 01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:56,000 Speaker 3: the work too much that the hook is all the man. 1326 01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,519 Speaker 1: Somebody, somebody on it. Whatever. 1327 01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:00,960 Speaker 3: But anyway, like you know, a lot of people will 1328 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:02,519 Speaker 3: think that you know what I'm saying, and the hooks 1329 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 3: are very important. Yeah, but I'm very proud of a 1330 01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:09,160 Speaker 3: lot of my songs, like they rapping diverse, even if 1331 01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,760 Speaker 3: there are tricky parts to rap that that I get 1332 01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:12,080 Speaker 3: off on. 1333 01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,960 Speaker 1: It definitely a little vindication moment that I want to 1334 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:15,200 Speaker 1: do that. 1335 01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,439 Speaker 3: So body like a band was fun for a while 1336 01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,880 Speaker 3: until I mean, that's some things happening, but change the 1337 01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,599 Speaker 3: trajectory of that song. But yeah, it'su to be funny 1338 01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:28,479 Speaker 3: for him. Yeah, I mean it varies when I got 1339 01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,040 Speaker 3: a band. It's some songs are fun to perform, like 1340 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,639 Speaker 3: mirror on the bands. When when I got a band, 1341 01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:35,200 Speaker 3: that's very fun to do. 1342 01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:35,760 Speaker 1: You know. 1343 01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:37,479 Speaker 3: I think I have a lot of fun doing like 1344 01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,519 Speaker 3: well power and problems on the on tour. 1345 01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:45,120 Speaker 1: So we'll see, how are you taking the band? Y'all know, 1346 01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 1: y'all got. 1347 01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:54,160 Speaker 3: All right, it's not like overhead man, overhead overhead. We 1348 01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:58,040 Speaker 3: know we know how we get a different band in 1349 01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,880 Speaker 3: every city and everybody I don't Yeah, I mean in 1350 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,519 Speaker 3: perfect world, Yes, because I I the dream is to 1351 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:07,439 Speaker 3: get to a point where I could do like ten 1352 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:11,840 Speaker 3: thousand any city and like it's eighty percent sixty percent, 1353 01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:16,240 Speaker 3: you know. But I want to bring my improv like 1354 01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,760 Speaker 3: like Eric robertson how he be like making up songs 1355 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,400 Speaker 3: on stage. I want to bring that element that's probably 1356 01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,760 Speaker 3: somebody gonna steal this ship now, but like I want 1357 01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,840 Speaker 3: to bring that to like me with my hits, with 1358 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,880 Speaker 3: my freest like just doing that with the band, because 1359 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:33,559 Speaker 3: that's how it started with Go Go band, Like I'm 1360 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,040 Speaker 3: looking at it looking around. 1361 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:37,719 Speaker 1: Styling. 1362 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want I want to add my the 1363 01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,920 Speaker 3: go Go element to make arena shows on the spot. 1364 01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:46,680 Speaker 3: Yeah you I know you are on this by I 1365 01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:51,960 Speaker 3: got too on the spot, gotcha, gotcha. I don't edit 1366 01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,200 Speaker 3: that out when he's still I'm a way to a 1367 01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,760 Speaker 3: blow up and the suit the ship out of all 1368 01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:57,519 Speaker 3: the ship and none. 1369 01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,960 Speaker 1: Now she she's my free nothing. That's my song. 1370 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:06,280 Speaker 3: Now, that's my song now written by like, yeah, I 1371 01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:07,880 Speaker 3: own it all my name. 1372 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's gonna be fun. That's why I 1373 01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:18,600 Speaker 1: can get it on. I can't. I can't wait to 1374 01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,519 Speaker 1: come and see what you go there you wanna come 1375 01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:21,479 Speaker 1: to one of the tour days. 1376 01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,320 Speaker 3: All right, that'll be the next time I see you 1377 01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,200 Speaker 3: probably right now. 1378 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,320 Speaker 1: That's what I know. You see what I'm saying, So 1379 01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,880 Speaker 1: see you before the touring a lot and see that's 1380 01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:35,720 Speaker 1: what's up. It's just saying, I can't wait to see 1381 01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:37,760 Speaker 1: you and learn. List if I gotta, I gotta set 1382 01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:42,439 Speaker 1: a camera crew. The greens came out, and I'm gonna 1383 01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:53,719 Speaker 1: see you again. All right, now here we go. Now listen, 1384 01:11:55,640 --> 01:12:05,120 Speaker 1: brother Wiley, Jerry and brother. There's a lot of music 1385 01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:11,519 Speaker 1: in your in your archives. It is it has shaped 1386 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:13,719 Speaker 1: the artists and the man that you have become today. 1387 01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:21,599 Speaker 1: You no music and the people I want this musical 1388 01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,559 Speaker 1: information from you. We call this what we call it. 1389 01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:37,880 Speaker 2: Our top five, your top five. 1390 01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:52,120 Speaker 7: Top five, Your top five are indeasing, are in me songs. 1391 01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:58,800 Speaker 6: We not to know before you go here on this show, 1392 01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:08,800 Speaker 6: everybody wants to go, yes, shut you out. 1393 01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:32,920 Speaker 1: Top four and A three, two, one five you We're 1394 01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,560 Speaker 1: not gonna do. I'm the only going to me. It's like, 1395 01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:36,639 Speaker 1: well he doesn't ship all the time. 1396 01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:39,519 Speaker 6: L A. 1397 01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:46,400 Speaker 3: Your top five R and B singers, Mike Stevie Whitney, 1398 01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:53,040 Speaker 3: m Prince, MM hmmm hmm, Marvin, and then I can't 1399 01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:58,720 Speaker 3: do five, keep going Map Marven and the stokely in there. 1400 01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:01,400 Speaker 1: Stoke is so. 1401 01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:04,680 Speaker 3: God listen, it's so fine. 1402 01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,280 Speaker 1: Forever in your mind. 1403 01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:20,760 Speaker 3: What you know, what you know about Hoping? Yeah, yeah, 1404 01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:24,800 Speaker 3: he's crazy as the way. Yeah, I know, I want 1405 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:29,840 Speaker 3: to come up here fumble like babyface because baby will 1406 01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,200 Speaker 3: come with baby faces. You gotta remember that. That's that 1407 01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:37,160 Speaker 3: like the pen comes with it to the y sir. 1408 01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:38,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I know I said it, but just to 1409 01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:41,880 Speaker 3: just say it again, Like well, Whenie Houston was doing 1410 01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,920 Speaker 3: but her voice on the on the on the on 1411 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,960 Speaker 3: the on the on the music that was playing, like 1412 01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,920 Speaker 3: like I want to dance somebody, Like the energy that's 1413 01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,439 Speaker 3: coming out of that lady on that song, It's like 1414 01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,720 Speaker 3: I don't even like that's like that's almost like a 1415 01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,320 Speaker 3: birth defect going on inside of to get bout, like 1416 01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:08,200 Speaker 3: to be belting out like that and that Super Bowl performers. Yeah, 1417 01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,040 Speaker 3: you know, I know, I said, Stevie's really really like 1418 01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,800 Speaker 3: like Stevie's really been him, Like you know what I'm saying. 1419 01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,720 Speaker 3: Some of the greatest songs ever I always say, like 1420 01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:21,680 Speaker 3: Stevie Wonders, like the greatest writer to ever do, like 1421 01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,240 Speaker 3: self deprecation in the song, like like. 1422 01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,120 Speaker 1: Like he's just like just like. 1423 01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:31,760 Speaker 3: Maybe you suppose that should happened across your mind, like 1424 01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,200 Speaker 3: just to even think to say that, like and buy 1425 01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,920 Speaker 3: some chance a girl like you. You know what I'm saying, 1426 01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,200 Speaker 3: Like he like he just like he just always knows 1427 01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:43,479 Speaker 3: how to make these songs that make like I'm so 1428 01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,200 Speaker 3: lucky to have you, like like Stevie just like you 1429 01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:48,720 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying like lately, like you know what 1430 01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,559 Speaker 3: I'm saying, like you know, like please don't be cheating 1431 01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,519 Speaker 3: on me, like you know what I'm saying, Like Stevie 1432 01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:55,920 Speaker 3: just him and obviously Mike my goat, like he just 1433 01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,600 Speaker 3: he can't be fucked with, like he can't vocalist vocalist. 1434 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:03,200 Speaker 3: You know, I'll be Dangelo obviously I'll be having like 1435 01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:07,960 Speaker 3: hot Takes fifteen. Yeah I can't because I don't want. 1436 01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,400 Speaker 1: To, cause no, I don't want to. Like you rock bro. 1437 01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,840 Speaker 3: Go ahead, I mean you got, we got it, so 1438 01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:16,599 Speaker 3: we got we should probably have done it like in era. 1439 01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,360 Speaker 3: So it's gonna be mad. So we're going to over 1440 01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:22,880 Speaker 3: five and Mike Prince, Stevie Whitney with. 1441 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:25,640 Speaker 1: He said, Stokely. 1442 01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:31,120 Speaker 3: Stokely's top five today in this moment right now. But 1443 01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,960 Speaker 3: I know I'm probably forgetting somebody, you know. Yeah, I'll 1444 01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:41,000 Speaker 3: just say that. Top five R and B songs, Man, Oh, 1445 01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:45,360 Speaker 3: Top five R and B songs. 1446 01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,760 Speaker 1: What's looking your phone too? You gotta play this card? 1447 01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:54,000 Speaker 3: I think Okay knocks me off my feet, Stevie Wonder, 1448 01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,920 Speaker 3: kick it off, Lady in my Life, Michael Jackson, because 1449 01:16:59,920 --> 01:17:00,799 Speaker 3: I have to put. 1450 01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to start right on some feathers. But there 1451 01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:08,160 Speaker 1: we go. Love music, it just is. It just is 1452 01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,799 Speaker 1: the greatest. It's just it just is created. 1453 01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:13,679 Speaker 3: You know, it just is you know what I'm saying. 1454 01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:18,000 Speaker 3: Pearl Raine, mm hmm, you know what I mean. It's 1455 01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:23,160 Speaker 3: a cover, but it belongs to Whitney. I always love it. 1456 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:27,679 Speaker 3: It's just the reason why, like you can't you can't 1457 01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:32,360 Speaker 3: like mention like how powerful a song is, like if 1458 01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,439 Speaker 3: you're describing to an alien like what music is, and 1459 01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,560 Speaker 3: like how it's supposed to make you feel. Like you 1460 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,720 Speaker 3: have to like you have to see how this song 1461 01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,720 Speaker 3: starts and how it ends, Like I don't know, Like 1462 01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:47,000 Speaker 3: I don't know, like if I would imagine like being 1463 01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,200 Speaker 3: in the in the room when that song got submitted 1464 01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,800 Speaker 3: and hearing it for the first time, like I don't care, 1465 01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,559 Speaker 3: Like everybody should be sweating when you hear that song, 1466 01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:56,760 Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, it's too it's too 1467 01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,680 Speaker 3: crazy and the music joint. I think it's just like 1468 01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:05,480 Speaker 3: a modern a modern like post two thousand. 1469 01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:08,160 Speaker 1: Or right on two thousand. Classic. It just is it 1470 01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:08,720 Speaker 1: just is. 1471 01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,760 Speaker 3: Just a song like it's just it's immortal, you know 1472 01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,240 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And I said, I said all I 1473 01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:18,120 Speaker 3: do know, I said, off knocks me off my feet. 1474 01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,680 Speaker 3: That and all I do kind of tied. So it's 1475 01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:27,720 Speaker 3: one they won be and I'm forgetting you want to give? 1476 01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,519 Speaker 3: Can I hear your fire? You probably done this a 1477 01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:32,640 Speaker 3: million times? Yeah, you probably Here we go, we're moving on, 1478 01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:36,920 Speaker 3: all right. You see what that smoke? Somebody not going 1479 01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,120 Speaker 3: not somebody going not hit him back. 1480 01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:43,560 Speaker 1: Going hit your time five. That's what I do. 1481 01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:44,760 Speaker 2: You know? 1482 01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,680 Speaker 1: This is this is my arena? Baby? Oh you know 1483 01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:49,280 Speaker 1: something in there? So what's the name? Guy being there 1484 01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:50,040 Speaker 1: breaking my heart? 1485 01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,479 Speaker 3: I got to I got to you just got to 1486 01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,640 Speaker 3: got to the way he's doing his runs at the end, 1487 01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:02,639 Speaker 3: Like that's. 1488 01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:07,400 Speaker 1: Just I'm like stokely opening opening drum solo him and 1489 01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:09,600 Speaker 1: Chris Daddy Dave. Welcome to the Mint Factory. Like I 1490 01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:11,639 Speaker 1: start there and then go into good for your Heart. 1491 01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,400 Speaker 1: I'm really know you well verse. 1492 01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:17,760 Speaker 3: Very much so very much so in that very much so, 1493 01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,080 Speaker 3: that's how that's why you know that stokely taking really 1494 01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:21,679 Speaker 3: much of a hot TAKEE No, that's. 1495 01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,439 Speaker 1: Not hot, that's the real one. 1496 01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,639 Speaker 3: Yeah man, he's he's We've done a lot of work 1497 01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:28,479 Speaker 3: together to our university. 1498 01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm telling you what what was up there in that 1499 01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:36,040 Speaker 1: fine arts building, changing lives. Let's make your super R 1500 01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,280 Speaker 1: and B artists. Were gonna call this your voltron. I 1501 01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:40,000 Speaker 1: want to know who you're going to get the vocal from, 1502 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:43,840 Speaker 1: the performance style, the styling, the drip of the artists, 1503 01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,000 Speaker 1: and and and and you're well informed. Who's gonna write 1504 01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,400 Speaker 1: for this artist? I need that from you. Who you're 1505 01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,439 Speaker 1: gonna get one vocal from for your super R and 1506 01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:55,479 Speaker 1: B artists. Who's gonna write it? No one vocal? Who's 1507 01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:57,800 Speaker 1: saying vocal is you're gonna like you get all the 1508 01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,640 Speaker 1: vocals ever you've ever heard, You're gonna pick one to 1509 01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:01,680 Speaker 1: make your super. 1510 01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,200 Speaker 3: RMB artist Michael Jackson gonna sing easy. 1511 01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:07,920 Speaker 1: Work, the performance style on stage, it's gonna be whatever 1512 01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:12,400 Speaker 1: Mike say, go whatever Mike again, Mi Mike the styling 1513 01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:13,160 Speaker 1: of the artists. 1514 01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:17,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, like yeah, how he's the styling of how to 1515 01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:20,400 Speaker 3: hold like the stage design and all that. 1516 01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:25,760 Speaker 1: That's mean the passion of the artists who mean it. 1517 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:30,280 Speaker 1: Mike again, I'm taking Mike three Piace ain't mad at you. 1518 01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:33,360 Speaker 3: Mike was like he wrote this stuff, manifested everything. 1519 01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:34,679 Speaker 1: Who writing for this artist? 1520 01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:40,120 Speaker 3: Neo Sometimes neo ne or do for the same Some 1521 01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,920 Speaker 3: neo neo do stuff and this stuff that is like 1522 01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:44,760 Speaker 3: that was Mike, you know. 1523 01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:45,160 Speaker 1: What I'm saying. 1524 01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:47,840 Speaker 5: It would have been a great Yeah. 1525 01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:52,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, he got he got stuff on this he 1526 01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:54,400 Speaker 3: got he got songs on his first album that like 1527 01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:57,240 Speaker 3: does probably throw away to him. Like, but I'm like, Mike, 1528 01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:02,160 Speaker 3: you and one of them, the conversation and those songs. 1529 01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:06,120 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, Neo Mike singing so sick what Yeah, 1530 01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:08,880 Speaker 3: he don't know how to do mic better than Mike sometimes, 1531 01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:13,360 Speaker 3: you know, like super co All right, of course we 1532 01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:17,800 Speaker 3: got one more for you one month hold on and 1533 01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:19,519 Speaker 3: we got a mic that just keeps appearing. 1534 01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:21,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know how we do. 1535 01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:24,040 Speaker 5: She's gonna look hilarious. 1536 01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:29,760 Speaker 1: You know how we doakes a black exploitation film. You know, 1537 01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:37,439 Speaker 1: you know the boom ain't all the way? Mama, where's Bucky? 1538 01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:42,760 Speaker 1: And what has he had? Here? 1539 01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:42,960 Speaker 3: We go? 1540 01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,599 Speaker 1: I ain't saying no nick. Yeah, I ain't saying no names. 1541 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,679 Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no name. 1542 01:21:51,320 --> 01:22:01,280 Speaker 1: Was we's weird what you did? Don't see she? I 1543 01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:02,799 Speaker 1: ain't saying no names. 1544 01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:10,840 Speaker 4: So we had a very important part of the show. 1545 01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:16,080 Speaker 4: You tell us the story funny and fucked up. I'm 1546 01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,200 Speaker 4: funny and fucked up. The only rude to the game. 1547 01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:20,960 Speaker 4: You can't say no names. 1548 01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:23,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, so risky. 1549 01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:25,920 Speaker 3: I think it's just talking about I'm having a great 1550 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:30,720 Speaker 3: year too. That ship sounds risky the man. You know what, 1551 01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,040 Speaker 3: it was real fucked up. When somebody did something real 1552 01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:37,160 Speaker 3: nice to me one day. That was it, man, fucked up, 1553 01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:45,599 Speaker 3: fucked up. I'm found in somebody pool. I'm founding somebody 1554 01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:49,600 Speaker 3: pool at their house because it was dark outside and 1555 01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,040 Speaker 3: the sensory thing they ain't going and I just felt 1556 01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:55,120 Speaker 3: in the pool like walking on the fo I'm in 1557 01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:58,280 Speaker 3: the pool and I had to make a decision if 1558 01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna cuck. Someone knocked back on the door, like 1559 01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,880 Speaker 3: soaking wet, like Darryl I fucking coming to America like 1560 01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:08,600 Speaker 3: Lisa dumping soaking wet, and I make a decision like 1561 01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:10,160 Speaker 3: I could just say I had to go real quick 1562 01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,120 Speaker 3: and like you know, but uh, I said, man, let 1563 01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,960 Speaker 3: me just do it. I had a new Virgil Jordan's 1564 01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:19,920 Speaker 3: on soaking wet at the toe. And he just laughed 1565 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,960 Speaker 3: at me like for like ten minutes, like it's just 1566 01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:25,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, I'm wet, I'm soaking, okn't get it? 1567 01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:27,960 Speaker 3: Okay cool? I thought he was writing, and he just 1568 01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:33,479 Speaker 3: came down with all his merch, merch, all his merch, 1569 01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:37,080 Speaker 3: like T shirt, crazy pants from the merch making. 1570 01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:38,760 Speaker 1: I said, you need to do do it? Need a 1571 01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,720 Speaker 1: hat and the poster it too. I'm just looking at this. 1572 01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:43,720 Speaker 1: I'm just looking at this, two thousand dollars out of 1573 01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:44,439 Speaker 1: over waters. 1574 01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:44,599 Speaker 7: All. 1575 01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:45,920 Speaker 1: It was wet, man. 1576 01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:47,679 Speaker 3: Let's just get back to work. Man, I'm just looking 1577 01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:49,040 Speaker 3: shirt don't fit me or nothing. 1578 01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:53,160 Speaker 1: Just I'm there. It was embarrassing, but you know, all good. 1579 01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:55,519 Speaker 1: I think that's a great stre that's actually a great 1580 01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:58,160 Speaker 1: story finished. 1581 01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:03,800 Speaker 3: I walked very very diligently around like anybody's pool, like 1582 01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,040 Speaker 3: whether lights are on or not, Like I don't even 1583 01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,160 Speaker 3: with pools and with regular clothes. 1584 01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,200 Speaker 1: On, swim a little bit. I survived. 1585 01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:14,879 Speaker 3: I was in the deep end, and you gotta understand, 1586 01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:18,280 Speaker 3: like going from walking on regular right to all the 1587 01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:21,000 Speaker 3: pools in the pool and the pool is wow. I'm like, 1588 01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:23,040 Speaker 3: so many things were happening. I didn't know if I 1589 01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:26,920 Speaker 3: was like, I don't know. Survival is all I have 1590 01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:33,559 Speaker 3: to say. It's very, very, very very I was. I'm like, yo, 1591 01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:36,479 Speaker 3: nobody gave me scream or nothing like ship, so I 1592 01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:41,479 Speaker 3: just yeah, like thank god they let us swim for free. 1593 01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:44,040 Speaker 3: When a little man, Oh yeah, that could have been bad. 1594 01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:47,519 Speaker 1: I'm bad. That's a great story. That song would have 1595 01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:51,280 Speaker 1: never came out. That you didn't leave is even better. Right, 1596 01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:53,599 Speaker 1: He's like, man, we got to get to work. 1597 01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,439 Speaker 3: I just didn't the lies that I didn't know what 1598 01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,160 Speaker 3: lie to go with. But man, all right, nigga, while 1599 01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:00,640 Speaker 3: your pooled, why likes don't work? 1600 01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:05,280 Speaker 1: Like dog? Never mind me? Why I know you know 1601 01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:08,120 Speaker 1: where niggas can sue like that's like for me, it's 1602 01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:11,519 Speaker 1: not on me no more. But no, brother, man, listen, 1603 01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:15,160 Speaker 1: first of all, we appreciate the time. Man. We appreciate you. Brother. 1604 01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:18,640 Speaker 1: We are very very honored and glad that you made 1605 01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:21,360 Speaker 1: a stop with us man to promote this really really 1606 01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:25,160 Speaker 1: great thing you're doing. And moving on. We we are 1607 01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,320 Speaker 1: home for you. Whatever you ever need from us, man 1608 01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:29,760 Speaker 1: to say the word and it is what it is. 1609 01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:34,120 Speaker 1: But we we are thankful that we got an opportunity 1610 01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:36,400 Speaker 1: to celebrate you man. Thanks you having man. I appreciate it. 1611 01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:38,840 Speaker 1: Tell you what you mean to us because you you're 1612 01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:41,720 Speaker 1: You're a guy, brother, Thank you. I'm You're a real guy. 1613 01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:45,479 Speaker 1: It means a lot, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank, 1614 01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm Valentine and this is the R and B Money 1615 01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:54,040 Speaker 1: podcast authority on all things R and B, H, Little 1616 01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:55,840 Speaker 1: wed and wild. But we gonna get the work done 1617 01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:03,400 Speaker 1: no matter what. Yes, sir, the talented, the incredible, the 1618 01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:05,759 Speaker 1: artist Man, it's him, Walla