1 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: On this episode of News World. Brad Stein is one 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: of the most media covered Christian comedians in the country. 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: The New Yorker magazine referred to him as quote God's comic. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: He's also been called a clean Dennis O'Leary. In addition 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: to performing comedy, he's written two books, Being a Christian 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: Without Being an Idiot and Live from Middle America, Rants 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: from a Red State Comedian, and he hosts a podcast. 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: Brad Stein has issues. I met Brad recently an event 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: in Nashville. We've had a great conversation, and I thought, 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: I really want to introduce him to all of you. 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: So I'm delighted to welcome he's my guest today, Brad, 12 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: Welcome and thank you for joining me a News World. 13 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 2: Well, thank you. 14 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: I'm sitting here with nude gingrich. I mean, I'm used 15 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 3: to just slumming it, my friend. I'm on with you know, 16 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: regular folks that haven't accomplished anything. 17 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,279 Speaker 2: And look at you. 18 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 3: You have direct line to the White House, and so buddy, 19 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 3: I'm on your coat tails today, my friend. 20 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: It's my pleasure. 21 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: You have your own unique audience and you've done an 22 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: amazing job. But I'm very curious how did you get 23 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: into comedy? When I was in high school, I wanted 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: to get into comedy. I read Steve Allen's book The Comedians, 25 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: and I was all excited. Turned out I was a 26 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: really bad comic, so I gave it up and went 27 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 1: into something else. 28 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 3: Well, it's not for everybody, that's for sure. Some people 29 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 3: in politics are more comedic than they realize. But you 30 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 3: know what, I don't know that stand up comedy or 31 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: to be a comedian is something that you can become. 32 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: I think you kind of have an innate I. 33 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: Say that we use the phrase he has a good 34 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: sense of humor as though it simply means that he 35 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: laughs thing or he sees funny things. But I do 36 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: believe it really is deeper than that. I think a 37 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: sense of humor is literally like a heightened sense like 38 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 3: our senses. 39 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: Right, People that can just fine. 40 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: Funny in places that most people just overlook or take 41 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: for granted is our special gift. We see the human experience, 42 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: we mock the human experience. We have been historically the 43 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 3: ones that could make fun of the King, not get 44 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: our head cut off. 45 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: That's what the gesture was for. 46 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 3: And so we have a role to play and so 47 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: I think that those like myself who came out and 48 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 3: ruined my mainstream career by saying I'm a Christian, I'm 49 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 3: a conservative, and I'm unapologetically patriot. It was costly on 50 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: one hand, but it also showed that there was a 51 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 3: demographic of Americans that wanted sophisticated comedy but didn't want 52 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: the swear words and didn't want people tearing down our country. 53 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 3: So I think what happened to me was I just 54 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 3: kind of got into the business. I was a professional magician, 55 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: believe it or not, but I was funny when I 56 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 3: did it, and I just started working in comedy clubs 57 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: and I realized this is what I want to do, 58 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: because to have a mind of mouth and a mic 59 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: and that's it. You got nowhere else to hide. If 60 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 3: they don't like it, no no where to go. Brother, 61 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 3: You got to finish or you don't get paid. It's 62 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: a tight rope walk without a net, for sure. But 63 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 3: for those of us who find it compelling, I think 64 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: we can do a service to culture. And hopefully that's 65 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 3: what I'm doing for the subculture of Christian conservatives in America. 66 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: When you think about comedy clubs, for example, I was 67 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: shuck with What a tough moment that is when, as 68 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: you said, you walk out there, there's nobody else there 69 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: and it either clicks or it's going to be a 70 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: long night. 71 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: Well, you know it's funny because what happens is you'll 72 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: get a lot of people to come up to you afterwards. 73 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: Ago, Oh, I wanted to do a comedian o. My 74 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: friends said I should be a comedian. And what they 75 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: don't understand is this it's a performance art. Okay, So 76 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: to say that there's not a lot of funny people 77 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: out there, obviously there are. I'm sure you know funny 78 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: people in your life that are friends and you love 79 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 3: this guy and you makes your life, and you might 80 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: be a funny guy you know with your friends. I 81 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: don't know you that will personally. But that's not the 82 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: hard part. If you happen to be funny, okay, God 83 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: bless you. But what you get to do is walk 84 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: out on stage to strangers who don't already know you, 85 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 3: don't already have a history with you, don't already have 86 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: a sense of your style of humor that they've already 87 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: bought into, and oh, here here comes Joe. 88 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: He's so funny. 89 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: Because they already have a relationship of chemistry. You're walking 90 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: out to strangers and in like three minutes you have 91 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 3: to make all these strangers get what you're coming from 92 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 3: and want to participate. It's like you're an orchestra leader 93 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: and all these people are like, there's the tuba guy, 94 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: and there's the cello and there's a piccolo, and I've 95 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: got to make all these people laugh together and find 96 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: unity in my humor and my point of view immediately 97 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: or it's going to be a long, horrible night. 98 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 2: And my brother I have been in the wrong end 99 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:49,679 Speaker 2: of it as well. 100 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: That's the cost of being a stand up comic, and 101 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: if you can do it, you might make a living. 102 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: I had a parallel experience. One time. I gave a 103 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: speech to the South Fulton CPA group, which had a 104 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: quarterly meeting, and I did everything in my speech the works, 105 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: and they just stared, I mean, no response. Nothing. At 106 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: the very end of the evening, this one guy came 107 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: out to me and said, God, that was exciting. He said, 108 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: we're CPAs you know. Yeah, I've never forgotten it. It's 109 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: the only time I remember when nothing worked. 110 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 3: Well, first off, I will have to say this, you 111 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 3: get no sympathy from me, zero until you've walked some 112 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: of the rooms I have done. My friend, welcome to 113 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 3: the club. But you know what's really fascinating about that, 114 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: there are groups of people in this world that I 115 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 3: guess are. 116 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: Having a good time and you never know it. 117 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 3: They don't laugh, they're not demonstrative, they're not gregarious, and 118 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 3: you'll finish your show and they'll be like, oh, you 119 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: were so funny, and you're thinking, where were you when 120 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 3: I was up there, because I don't remember seeing any. 121 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: Of this response. 122 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: But it's funny how sometimes the tone of the room 123 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: is based on maybe their job description, maybe they're tired. 124 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: That's the weird tightrope about stand up comedy. You don't 125 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 3: know what you're going to get because you don't know 126 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: where these people are coming from or what their day 127 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: was like. 128 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: So your job is to try to find funny for 129 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 2: them and let them. 130 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 3: Forget about what brought them this miserable countenance to the show. 131 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: Have you ever had an actively hostile group? 132 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: Well? How still in what way? 133 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: Commenting back in negative ways? 134 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,679 Speaker 3: I mean, well, for sure that would be called a heckler. 135 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: And you do have to learn how to fence with them. 136 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 3: And you know, nowadays they have this thing called crowd work. 137 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: It's a big popular thing on YouTube where the comic 138 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: is talking to the audience, Hey what do you do 139 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 3: for a little bit? Hey where are you from? And 140 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 3: they joke extemporaneously. And I've been doing that my whole life. 141 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 3: I walk out into the crowd and start doing stuff 142 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 3: like kind of like Robin Willms used to do. And 143 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: it does go with the territory. Matter of fact, it's 144 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: the only performance art I'm aware of that the audience 145 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 3: feels emboldened to participate. You don't go to an opera 146 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 3: and the guy's like and they're like, no, you suck. 147 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 3: You don't ever see that these guys. You just let 148 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: them do their little. 149 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: Show and leave them alone where you like it not. 150 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 3: But there's something about stand up that gives people this 151 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 3: permission to try to wrangle you and see if baby, 152 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: they can overcome you. Maybe they want it to be 153 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 3: a comic or whatever. So it does come with the terrory. 154 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: But if you're really good at this, if you've done 155 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: it a long time, they're not going to survive. You 156 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: will be able to attack them in a funny way. 157 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: But certainly in a more professional, sophisticated way, because that's 158 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: your job. 159 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: It's the control words, you know what. 160 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: New This is why comedy is so important as a 161 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: regulator of freedom. I mean, if there's one barometer for 162 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 3: what makes a country free its speech, it is there 163 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 3: any boundaries that people are laying down that says you 164 00:07:54,800 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: cannot talk, speak, think, act, behave in this topic. Anytime 165 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: that's laid down, you've lost your freedom because your speech, 166 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: your thoughts, your freedom of speech is your philosophy, it's 167 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 3: how you see the world. It's your agency as a human. 168 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: So it is absolutely sacrosanct that that is never hindered. 169 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: And what did the left want to do with comics? 170 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: They want to dissensor us. You can't talk that you're 171 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: making people uncomfortable. That's the job of comedy to make 172 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: people uncomfortable, so that you have to reckon with the 173 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 3: crazy or with some other perspective that their average American 174 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 3: doesn't want to buy into. 175 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 2: And you're forcing. 176 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: Me to have to think like you believe like you 177 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 3: are shut up, and you're going to say you're the 178 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: tolerant one. So comedy is greatness is it can expose 179 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 3: that and mocking ridicule, because nothing has been more proven 180 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 3: about sort of the worldview and how it plays out 181 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: in real time than the difference between a conservative and 182 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 3: a progressive in humor. They can't laugh at themselves, newt 183 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 3: They can't laugh at themselves. They find it irritating, they 184 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 3: find it unfair, they find it deflating, they find it indignant. 185 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 3: And we, as conservatives who have been the punchline and 186 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: as a Christian double punchline for years in the culture, 187 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 3: we've learned to say, I don't agree with you, but 188 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 3: I still see the funny. 189 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 2: Now. 190 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 3: That is sophistication. That is a mature citizen allowing all 191 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 3: points of view even if you disagree. They cannot return 192 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 3: that favor. That's how children live. You're not allowed to 193 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 3: make fun, You're not allowed to joke. I can't take it. 194 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 3: So you're seeing systemic narcissism at the root of progressivism. Literally, 195 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: a group of people in worship of themselves, calling themselves 196 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: the virtuous ones, get to self anoint themselves and then 197 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 3: tell the rest of us how we can live. So comedy, 198 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: my comedy disrupts that and exposes that. And that's why 199 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 3: I'm not on the tonight show. But I'm on your 200 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 3: show because they can't handle the truth. 201 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: I understand that you first got an audience laughing with 202 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: you in kindergarten. 203 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: Okay, so that's a crazy story. 204 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 3: I'll try to do it fast for you because maybe 205 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: it won't be as interesting to folks. But I was 206 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: in kindergarten. I'm six, and the teacher said, we're going 207 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 3: to have a show and tell whatever. It was some 208 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: free form day, who knows it was in the sixties. 209 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: I'm a baby boomer. 210 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 3: So they said, we're going to have somebody come up 211 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 3: and do a puppet show. Who wants to do it? 212 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: So I raised my hand. I always wanted to be 213 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 3: the center of attention. And they get another kid and 214 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 3: they give us puppets. They didn't give us a script, 215 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 3: so they just set these kids loose behind the puppet 216 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: board and we put our hands up. So I put 217 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 3: my hand up. I realized nobody knew what to do. 218 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 3: So I just start of saying, hey, you want to 219 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 3: play hide and seek? And the kids like sure, and 220 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 3: I say, okay, you go, and I'll count. And I 221 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: went one, nine, seven, twenty to sixteen, one thousand and 222 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 3: ninety and the kids started laughing, because nothing it's funnier 223 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: in kindergarten than the old. 224 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: Look. I don't know how to count. 225 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 3: Routine, but they were rolling, and I remember leaving my 226 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: little show and the kids. I felt like I'm the 227 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 3: funniest guy that's ever existed, and I said down. The 228 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 3: next week they decided to do another one, and they 229 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: decided to do a puppet show again, because clearly I 230 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: had shown the success of what puppetry can be. So 231 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 3: I raised my hand. I'm thinking, they're going to have 232 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: to choose me because I'm the king. They didn't choose me, 233 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 3: to choose two other kids. They get behind there, they 234 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 3: start doing the puppet show, and here's what I hear, Hey, 235 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: let's play hide and seek one nine twelve twelve, And 236 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: the kids are rolling, and I'm sitting there thinking, that's 237 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 3: my bet. 238 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: I'm six years old. 239 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 3: I wrote my first comedy routine at six and had 240 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: a ripped off a week later. 241 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: Welcome to showbiz. 242 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 3: Copyright infringement, intellectual property ripped off at six. But I 243 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: guess the point Not only is that funny to me 244 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 3: and ironic, but to me it goes back to your 245 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 3: first question. Somehow, I knew that'd be funny if I 246 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 3: didn't know how to count right. So again, you either 247 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: have this innate ability to find funny in things or 248 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 3: you don't. 249 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 2: And if you don't, that doesn't make you worse. 250 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 3: Go find your strength, Go find your sphere of influence, 251 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 3: and be good at that. 252 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: Don't try to be funny if you're not. 253 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: Matter of fact, the worst thing you can do is 254 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: say I'm going to be funny, because now they expect 255 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: you to be if you go on, if I came 256 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 3: to see your speech, I would assume it's going to 257 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 3: be academic, and it's going to be deep, and it's 258 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 3: going to be informative. I'm not expecting you to be funny. 259 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 3: So if suddenly you say some funny, you're probably going 260 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 3: to get a laugh because it was unexpected. But boy, 261 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: you go up and say you're a comic, now everything's 262 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 3: on the line. 263 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: As you began thinking seriously about comedy, were there any 264 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: comedians who you sort of learned from or modeled after, 265 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: or gave you useful insights. 266 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's like in any performance art, it's 267 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 3: impossible to not have been influenced by other people because 268 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 3: they went before you. 269 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: They kind of blazed the trail for you. 270 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 3: I will say this, I never really kind of tried 271 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 3: to watch a comic and become that. I've always been 272 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 3: fairly aware of trying to be unique. If you're trying 273 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 3: to duplicate somebody else, you're really not going to stand out. 274 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 3: You've got to find you what they call your voice, 275 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 3: What is your voice? What is your point of view? 276 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 3: So in that regard, I wasn't trying to do that. 277 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 3: But I can say in retrospect, the comics that I 278 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 3: think I was most influenced or respected would be George Carlin. 279 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: He was the antithesis of me. He was an atheist, 280 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 3: he used vulgar language. I don't do any of those things. 281 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: But he probably was the smartest comic I have ever seen. 282 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 3: His ability to navigate language and nomenclature to find a 283 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 3: perspective about culture, about politics. 284 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 2: He was amazing. 285 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 3: So I really was moved by that because, again, as 286 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 3: a Christian and a conservative, I got to tell you something, brother, 287 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 3: You've been in this game a long time. I mean 288 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: at the highest echelon of politics and at the White 289 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 3: House and with presidents, and you've been a Republican and. 290 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: I'm guessing, you know, conservative right. We have not. 291 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 3: Leveraged the arts as well as the left by far, 292 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: and that is a very powerful means of communication. Now 293 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 3: most artists are left leaning, so it's easier to get 294 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: the A listers because they already are on board ideologically. 295 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: But we haven't been as good at. 296 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 3: That because I don't know if we didn't see it 297 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: as valuable. I don't know if we thought it was 298 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 3: more trite and trivial and it was irrelevant. 299 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: But it does move people. 300 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 3: And so I think that I wanted to say, could 301 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 3: I be sophisticated, not compromise my faith, stand true to 302 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 3: my beliefs as an American, as a citizen, as a conservative, 303 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: and still be funny and also be able to laugh 304 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 3: at myself if necessary. So I had an agenda of 305 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 3: what I hope to accomplish, and I guess it has worked. 306 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 3: New Yorker, as you mentioned, did an article about me 307 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 3: in two thousand and four. 308 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 2: This was during the. 309 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 3: Bush Kerry campaign, and the Bush sisters were thinking about 310 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 3: bringing me in and doing a party or something when 311 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 3: they were doing campaigning, and they could not believe that 312 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 3: you could be a conservative and a Christian to be funny. 313 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: That was their angle, and I ended up with an 314 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 3: eight page profile on that because they just didn't see it. 315 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: So again it's that myopic view from the left that 316 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: only we get to control words, only we get control 317 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 3: what is sophisticated, only we get to decide what is 318 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: true art. They will always say, oh, you conservatives aren't 319 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 3: even funny. It's like, yeah, we are. You can't laugh 320 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 3: at yourself. See that's the difference. You hear all those 321 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 3: people laughing at my jokes. Okay, you don't like it 322 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: because you were the one that's getting punched at. 323 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: I hear this all the time. 324 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 3: Conservative is not funny because comedy is only funny if 325 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 3: it punches up. And I'm going, wait a minute, you 326 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 3: guys are in control. You're the ones that said you 327 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: can't joke about us, you can't talk about us, you 328 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 3: can't disagree with us, you can't judge us. Sounds to 329 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: me like you have the biggest, largest privilege that has 330 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 3: ever occurred on earth. If you are untouchable, it sounds 331 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 3: like it's your turn to get punched. And so they 332 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 3: can't handle that because they didn't realize that if they control, 333 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 3: who's even allowed to articulate a disagreement, then they control 334 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 3: the narrative. That they control the narrative, they control the culture. 335 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 3: And that is why it's so crucial that Conservatives and 336 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 3: Christians get out and unapologetic, boldly speak. 337 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: Truth and let the chips fall where they make. That's 338 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: what most. 339 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 3: Impressed me about Donald Trump in twenty sixteen, said, I 340 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 3: don't know if this guy's going to being good at 341 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 3: this or not, but I know two things. One, we 342 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: need a businessman because politicians are corrupt to the core. 343 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 3: And number two, this guy doesn't give a crap about 344 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 3: political correct He just says, you're a racist. No, you're 345 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 3: out of it. Next it's like he did it. He 346 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 3: broke the code. If you don't play their game and 347 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: say I'm not playing. Sorry, you're wrong. Next they say, wait, 348 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 3: that's how we've learned to control you, guys. That's how 349 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 3: we've learned to wrangle the right and keep you from 350 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 3: making any kind of play in being able to articulate 351 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 3: your right just by simply calling you names. And you 352 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 3: fell for it instead of saying, no, bull crap, that's 353 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 3: not what I am and I'm not playing your game. 354 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 3: The end, so he had enough acumen and enough sophistication, 355 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: enough awareness. I don't know how he did it to say, 356 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 3: don't care what you think. I'm going to be honest 357 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 3: and truthful, and the American people absolutely bought it up. 358 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 2: Give us more of this guy. 359 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: Did you find the Rise of Trump changed your audiences? 360 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 3: Well, if it did, it changed them to be more 361 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 3: emboldened to stand up for what they believe and not 362 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 3: to self censor. When we watched the Corona the Cult 363 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 3: of Corona, what most broke my heart wasn't that a 364 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 3: government system in the CDC and this politicized group of 365 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 3: people who were supposed to be just carrying about human 366 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 3: flourishing and health and abandon it for pharmaceutical profits and 367 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 3: so forth, which I guess we all kind of knew 368 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 3: was happening, but boy did it show up during courls. 369 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: I always smoke who's running the show. 370 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: I think what bothered me was not that they stole 371 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 3: my first ammorate rights. Nobody can steal my first memorate rights. 372 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 3: That's mine. That's intrinsic in my nature. I can say 373 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 3: whatever I want. I might have to pay a price, 374 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 3: but nobody can stop me from speaking. 375 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 2: That's my volition. That's my choice. People chose to give 376 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 2: away their liberty. 377 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: That's a whole different ballgame than it's been stolen from 378 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 3: you at the end of a bayonet. And when I 379 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: saw that, I said, how are we going to win 380 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 3: this game? If I can't count on my neighbor to 381 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 3: defend me when I'm going out and speaking boldly about 382 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 3: free speech, If you guys are going to just bail out, 383 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 3: We're gone. This ain't a revolutionary America. This isn't courageous America. 384 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 3: These are people that want safety and convenience instead of freedom. 385 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 2: It's like, are you crazy? You gonna lose everything. 386 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 3: So I think that those who are in the whisper, 387 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 3: those who are being deplatformed on YouTube and so forth, 388 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 3: when they would come out, even doctors saying, hey, I'm 389 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: a virologist, this isn't the. 390 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 2: Way you handle this stuff. Nah, you can't speak. 391 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 3: We've realized now in retrospect, not only can I speak, 392 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 3: and I could have spoken, but this is absolutely essential 393 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 3: for freedom, is that all the people choose to unite. 394 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 3: That's the other thing that the right, I think struggled 395 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: with was finding a continuity. How do we bring everybody 396 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 3: together so that we have a solid base, and Trump 397 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: kind of figured that out, especially this last election, getting 398 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 3: people minorities that would have never voted. He's found a 399 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 3: way to do what has been impossible here for find 400 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: a unity amongst people that we just somehow never found before. 401 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 2: So yes, the Trump beings who have always. 402 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 3: Been pretty bold wearing their hat and whatever, but being 403 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 3: much more embold and I think much more earnest about 404 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 3: realizing how important it is to be a truth teller 405 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: in your sphere of influence. It can't be compromised anymore. 406 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 3: It's not up for grabs. You have to get all 407 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 3: in or you will not remain free. And we're the 408 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 3: last truth tellers on earth. That here as Europe doesn't 409 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: seem like it's going to last long. I mean, you're 410 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 3: in the inside of this stuff more than a guy 411 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 3: like me. But Buddy, I have lost all faith and 412 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 3: politicians guys are so corrupt. I don't know what to 413 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 3: do with it. I don't know who to trust anymore. 414 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 3: I know a lot of people saying a lot of things, 415 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 3: but I don't know what's true. By your fruit, you 416 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 3: will be known. I hear about Epstein lists being given, 417 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: but I don't see it I hear about people being convicted, 418 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: I don't see it, So I don't see in justice 419 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 3: being served. And that's what I think has made Americans 420 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 3: so frustrated and discontented, is we don't feel like anybody 421 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 3: is finally coming through and there's been a price to 422 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: pay for the horror that's been inflicted on us in 423 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: the last ten twenty years. 424 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I do think that the depth of dishonesty, 425 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: and as long as I've been in this business since 426 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: a pretty long time, I had no real appreciation of 427 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: how sick it had gotten. But I'm curious you did 428 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: get an amazing coverage from The New Yorker. Do you 429 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 1: consider yourself a Christian comedian or a comedian who happens 430 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: to be Christian? 431 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 3: Well, that's how I normally used to frame it. I 432 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 3: actually would when I started working in churches. I would 433 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 3: finish my show and I'd say, if you've learned anything today, 434 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 3: I want you to learn this. 435 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 2: I'm not a Christian comedian. 436 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 3: I kind of pause, so they'd be like, what have 437 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 3: we been laughing at a Buddhist? 438 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: What if we lost our salvation? What's going on? 439 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 3: And then I'd say, I'm a Christian that happens to 440 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 3: be comedian, because I felt like what was important and 441 00:21:55,400 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 3: part of historically Christianity has tried to make a majority 442 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 3: of their witness in their behavior. We're the ones that 443 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 3: started hospitals. We're the ones that started taking care of 444 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 3: the poor. We're the ones that took babies that were 445 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 3: left on the side of the road to exposure and 446 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 3: said we're going to bring them in because they're made 447 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: in the image of God. We're the ones that said 448 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 3: that all people are intrinsically valuable because they're made in 449 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 3: the image of God. We're the ones that started universities, 450 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 3: were the ones that started modern science during medieval age, 451 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: where we believe that there is a God that has 452 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 3: created a natural order so we can study it and 453 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 3: count on it work and tomorrow, so we make predictions. 454 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 3: Christianity change the world, and Jesus is the most influential 455 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: human that sever existed on earth. So in that regard, 456 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 3: I have nothing to be ashamed of, nothing to be 457 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 3: embarrassed about. And what I found out was the mainstream 458 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 3: media and that New Yorker and you again, you've been 459 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 3: in this game much longer than me. That's a very 460 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 3: powerful magazine I didn't realize it, but the moment my 461 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 3: article came out the next day, I got two calls 462 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 3: from sixty minutes. 463 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 2: I was on CNN, I was on. 464 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 3: Nightline, got a book deal out of it. Live from 465 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 3: Middle America. You mentioned that, so it was my tonight show. 466 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 3: It was my Johnny Carson, if you want to go 467 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 3: back to those days. But what I realized was I 468 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 3: can't control how they want to define me. That is 469 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 3: another tactic of the left, is that we will speak 470 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 3: pejoratives towards somebody and force them to stay in this 471 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 3: stratosphere over here that we've gone ahead to define them 472 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 3: of and that way they'll just shut up because they 473 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 3: don't want to be thought of as a bigot or whatever. 474 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 2: We call them. 475 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 3: And we almost self create the illusion that they're actually 476 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 3: this guy because people weren't bold enough to say no. 477 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 3: So I realized, well, listen, they're calling me a Christian comedian, 478 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 3: whether I like it or not. And it was almost 479 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 3: like I went to God and said, man, I came 480 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 3: out of nightclubs, Buddy, I'm not safe. Denish Jesus is 481 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 3: calling me the most dangerous Christian comedian in the country. 482 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 3: Because I had things to say, and I wasn't going 483 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 3: to puss your foot around. And what I realized, I 484 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 3: feel like God told me you are a Christian, your comedian, 485 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 3: that's what they're going to call you. So accept it 486 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 3: and redefine it. Yeah, I'm a Christian comedian. Get a 487 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 3: load of this. And so when you take an unorthodox 488 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:20,719 Speaker 3: approach to something, when you embrace it and redefine and 489 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 3: literally create the power of the moniker that they use 490 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 3: as a pejorative, and I turned it into leverage and 491 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 3: as a warrior sword, saying yeah, I'm one of these guys, 492 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 3: and I ain't going away now what you're going to do. 493 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 3: I think it just gave me a new perspective that 494 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 3: this is something to not only embrace, but to stand 495 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 3: for because it's under attack. The West is walking away 496 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 3: from its Judeo Christian roots, or it has been. There 497 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 3: seems to be a little bit of a resurgence returning. 498 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 3: But I have to go down believing this is true 499 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 3: and standing for that. That's what it means to be 500 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 3: a christ follower. Either you believe this or you don't. 501 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 3: And if you do, act, and if it costs you everything, 502 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 3: welcome to crucifixion. Welcome to what is expected of those 503 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 3: who stand for truth in the face of tyranny. 504 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 2: So in that regard, I'm apologize. 505 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 3: I guess that was kind of a convoluted answer to 506 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 3: a pretty simple question. But yeah, I'm a Christian comedian, 507 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 3: but I'm not like anybody else you've seen out there. 508 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 3: So I think I found a subculture and a niche 509 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 3: that is scratching, a niche that a lot of Americans 510 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 3: have that they didn't know where they could go for 511 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 3: entertainment that was dignifying. 512 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: We've performed in a wide range of venues, in churches, clubs, 513 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: political events. How much does your routine change based on 514 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: the audience. 515 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 3: The only thing that I really would change, I think, 516 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 3: like my latest album hasn't quite been released. It it's 517 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 3: called laugh while it's legal, so that should give you 518 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 3: an idea of where I'm coming from. But the only 519 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 3: change I have to make, and it's just more being pragmatic. 520 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 3: If you're hired to go bring laughter to people, that's 521 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 3: kind of the job. Is not necessarily social commentary, though 522 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 3: I do that. It's bringing laughter. So if I were 523 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 3: to go work for a conservative group or where you 524 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 3: and I met May twelfth here in Nashville. 525 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 2: You know that type of folks. 526 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to be unapologetic, full blown conservative Christians 527 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 3: because I know that's my constituency. This is going to 528 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 3: kill Oh my gosh, I'm with my people. But let's 529 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 3: say you're doing with Illinois Right to Life. 530 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm a. 531 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 3: Pro life guy, but guess what those groups are much 532 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 3: more ecumenical. They'll bring in Democrats who happen to be 533 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 3: pro life. They bring that, and so I have to 534 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 3: think to myself, Okay, these guys need money to save 535 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 3: children's lives. 536 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 2: We're going to be aborted, and these guys are going 537 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:04,719 Speaker 2: to help pay for it. 538 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 3: So I do want to be sensitive to not being 539 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 3: too dogmatic about my point of view because there's a 540 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 3: bigger goal at play here, and it is to fundraise 541 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: for a particular cause. So I will alter, I'll never compromise, 542 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 3: but I'll strategize how to best effectively. 543 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: Work this room. 544 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 3: Now, most people, and most people that bring me in 545 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 3: and hire me churches, conservative groups, political groups. I work 546 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 3: with Rick Green, who created Patriot Academy. We do the 547 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 3: comedy and Constitution show. So he's trying to raise up 548 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 3: in the next generation of Conservatives and Christians and knowing 549 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 3: our heritage and our Christian heritage as Americans. 550 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: So those guys, all bets are off. I go in 551 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 2: full board. 552 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 3: But yes, if I felt like there is a mixture here, 553 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 3: I will be sensitive to not trying to make them 554 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: feel that they're not welcome or that they don't have 555 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 3: a placed at the table, which, by the way, is 556 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 3: the antithesis of what the left does to people like us. 557 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: You started in comedy before social media became pervasive. How 558 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: has social media changed the world of comedy? 559 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness, the question is probably not robust enough. 560 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 3: Social media has changed the world. When I started out 561 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 3: in comedy, you needed a record label to get a record. 562 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 3: When I started in comedy, Jim McCauley over at the 563 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 3: Tonight Show has to book you, and he has to 564 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 3: watch you, and he has to make sure that Johnny 565 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 3: is going to like now that I'm giving my age away. 566 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 3: Johnny retired in ninety two. But that was the big 567 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 3: brass ring. When I just go around, I was getting 568 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 3: on the Johnny carsonoe. So there was a time when 569 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 3: the dissemination of information was controlled by a very specific 570 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 3: myopy group of folks, and there are three major networks. 571 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 3: There wasn't even the depth of all the different channels 572 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: that have come on since then, So you kind of 573 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: were stuck a keepers that if you couldn't break into them, 574 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: you probably weren't going to do so well. All of 575 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 3: a sudden, YouTube is your own television program, it's your 576 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 3: own network. I can say whatever I want, I can 577 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 3: put out whatever I want. I can do from my 578 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 3: point of view. I mean, I guess they could censor you, 579 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 3: and they have, and they can shadow ban you, and 580 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 3: they have. Is at least when it comes to monetization. 581 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 3: But for the most part, your content is going to play. 582 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 3: You can go find places that normally would never have 583 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 3: given you a platform and create your own. It's true 584 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 3: entrepreneurship and a creativity access that has never existed in 585 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 3: human history. I mean, to me, the greatest miracle, no, 586 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 3: I can't say greatest, but one of the most astounding 587 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 3: miracles in the last few years was when the richest 588 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 3: man in the world decides to join our side for 589 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 3: a second, say I'm buying Twitter and I'm going to 590 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 3: let people talk and do. If we didn't have the 591 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 3: richest man in the world that could write a check 592 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,959 Speaker 3: for forty five billion dollars and not sweat it. I 593 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 3: don't know what this country would have been. Seriously, I 594 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 3: don't know if we would have survived. Everybody saw this 595 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 3: last election with Kamala as this is it. If we 596 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 3: lose this one, we will never vote again. Now, I 597 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 3: don't know if that's being over dramatic, but buddy, it 598 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 3: is tenuous. And by the way, Trump winning isn't something 599 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 3: to gloat over. It's a reprieve. Now, we got to 600 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 3: get busy. We got a midterms that we have to control, 601 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 3: and we have to keep this idea of what it 602 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 3: means to be conservative. And you know what it is, 603 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 3: and you could probably answer this better than me, buddy. 604 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 3: There used to be a time when the greatest thing 605 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 3: you could be was to be a citizen of the 606 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 3: United States. That's what people would die to come see you. Well, 607 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 3: I've just learned something in the last few years. There's 608 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 3: a different between being a citizen. 609 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 2: Now and being an American. 610 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 3: Anybody can be a citizen, really, you just apply and 611 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 3: if they give it to you, or you're born here, 612 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 3: you're in. That used to be holy. I was like 613 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 3: being a Roman citizen. It was a power that nobody 614 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 3: else had. It was something that you grasp for and 615 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 3: held with great dignity. But you know what, you can 616 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 3: be a citizen and not be an American. Because an 617 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 3: American believes in this nation, in its sovereignty and its 618 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 3: ability to control its borders, in its language, and its heritage, 619 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 3: in its history. If we don't have a foundation of 620 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 3: what started this nation, what made us great, we can't survive. 621 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 3: A house divided falls And so we have to decide 622 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 3: going forward, are you going to be an American or not? 623 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 3: Because that's what's expected of you. You want to bring 624 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 3: your own culture, You want to bring the best of 625 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 3: what the world has to offer. Bring it in. We'll 626 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 3: gladly embrace it. But you will become one of us, 627 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 3: or you don't belong here. You need to go somewhere else. 628 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 3: Because this is what we expect of you. It's going 629 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 3: to be a sacrifice, not of who you were. You 630 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 3: have a dignity in your ethnicity and your history. Be 631 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 3: grateful for it, but you are sacrificing that to become 632 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 3: one of us, an American. And if you can't do that, 633 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. You don't deserve to be in this country. 634 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: Well, I couldn't agree with you more. Is there a 635 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: dream venue or a dream gig you always wanted to perform? 636 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, like I've mentioned it before, I guess 637 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 3: that Tonight show it with Johnny Carson that's long gone. 638 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 2: That was something that everybody wanted to be able to do. 639 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 3: But I think if there was one thing that I 640 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 3: tried years ago was a sitcom where I got to 641 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 3: be a conservative. We pitched this by the way to Hollywood, 642 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 3: where you know, my wife would be maybe. I think 643 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 3: the way we put it was she was a teacher 644 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 3: in Boulder, Colorado, at a college, so she was more 645 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 3: left leaning and my daughter was going sideways and I 646 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 3: was the one conservative. And this was back in two 647 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 3: thousand and four and again after the New Yorker where 648 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 3: they said, let's go see what this guy has offered, 649 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 3: because apparently he's a. 650 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 2: Big fan base. 651 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 3: And we made this pitch to this young lady and 652 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 3: she's like, well, you certainly have a point of view, 653 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 3: don't you. And I realized, oh, and what she's saying 654 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 3: is neda and rs. I realized that these guys that 655 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 3: control Hollywood in that they ain't going to give people 656 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 3: like me a shot. 657 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 2: Now. 658 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 3: Tim Allen ended up kind of doing a show like that, 659 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 3: and so it has existed. I don't know if you 660 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 3: know this. I was up for a show at CNN. 661 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 3: This is another one. Two thousand and four after New Yorker. 662 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 3: They brought me into New York CNN to do a pilot, 663 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 3: and I sat in the desk of the presidents who said, 664 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 3: we're trying to. 665 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 2: Bring back viewers. We lost to Fox NW. 666 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 3: This is two thousand and four, twenty five years ago 667 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 3: or whatever, so they knew they had a problem twenty 668 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 3: something years ago. And they ended up giving this show 669 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 3: to Glenn Beck because he had two million people on 670 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 3: his radio show. 671 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 2: So I understand. 672 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 3: But those were some things that I kind of thought 673 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 3: would be fun if I could have a chance. 674 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 2: I've been in twenty five films. I'm an actor. 675 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 3: I thought it'd be fun to have a said to 676 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 3: be fun to maybe host a show and meet interesting 677 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 3: guests and talk to people from my point of view 678 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 3: and show that Christians and Conservatives can be funny and 679 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 3: interesting and we also embrace one of the lost arts 680 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 3: of civility, and that is to agree to disagree agreeably, 681 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 3: and that needs to be returned to America if we 682 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 3: have a chance of not completely splintering. 683 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: You have a fascinating point of view and I think 684 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: you're a very important part of our culture. I'm so 685 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: glad that we had a chance to chat in Nashville, 686 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: and Brad, I want to thank you for joining me. 687 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: I want to let our listeners know they can find 688 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 1: out more about your work by visiting your website at 689 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: Bradstein dot com. And thank you so much for sharing 690 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 1: with us. 691 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 3: Well, brother, it's been my pleasure. It's been an honor 692 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 3: meeting with you. I appreciate all the hard work and 693 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 3: just keep up the good work. 694 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 2: Brother. We need true conservatives in places of power. 695 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 1: Thank you to my gu brad Stein. 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