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Speaker 2: Welcome back to all the smoke. We in New York.

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Speaker 3: And wow it's been a minute. We have half a minute.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's your turn. You got the sweaty palms this time.

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Speaker 4: No, that was you. I was just gonna that was

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Speaker 4: definitely you had. That was you.

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Speaker 2: Shake Mike's hand, them are moist, right, I was regular right.

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Speaker 5: I ain't gonna lie to you if I needed to

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Speaker 5: seal an envelope for both of y'all, just shake y'all

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Speaker 5: hand and do like that, and I seal.

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Speaker 4: The envelope both of y'all. Little moist man New York

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Speaker 4: got y'all. It wasn't moist. You know, he sweating. I'll

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Speaker 4: be nervous when we have yet. You blame that shit

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Speaker 4: on me.

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Speaker 2: You've bamed my hands wet to shake his motherfucker anyway. Man,

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Speaker 2: Today we like to welcome to the show super Bowl champ,

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Speaker 2: co host of Good Morning America, and a Fox Sports analyst,

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Speaker 2: the one and only man Michael Strahan. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: being here. I appreciate it, MANE really I just wanted

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Speaker 2: before we get going, man, I just want to commend you.

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Speaker 2: I think you've really been an inspiration for a lot

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Speaker 2: of us the way you've been able to have a

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Speaker 2: successful career but then switching to the media space to

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Speaker 2: be very successful in sports within crossover in main street media,

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Speaker 2: and that's very hard to do and you've done that

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Speaker 2: very gracefully. And you know when people ask, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: who do you look up to in this space? Man,

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Speaker 2: You're the one, I say, so what? That kind of

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Speaker 5: Do I Aint gonna lie to you because I've talked

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Speaker 5: to you before about this and Jack, I saw you

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Speaker 5: at the boxing man, like a week or so ago,

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Speaker 5: and you know, you kind of just start doing your thing.

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Speaker 5: You don't even think about who's watching or whatever. And

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Speaker 5: especially when you're a football player that you guys are

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Speaker 5: playing basketball and I'll watch you guy both fourteen years

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Speaker 5: in the NBA, both championships and I'm watching that.

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Speaker 4: So to have you tube.

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Speaker 5: Say that to me kind of makes me feel like,

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Speaker 5: what the hell is going on? Like this don't seem right,

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Speaker 5: But I appreciate it, man, and what you guys are doing.

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Speaker 5: I'm in the transition that you've made and you know,

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Speaker 5: it's not easy. It takes a lot of hard work,

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Speaker 5: and y'all are putting in the work and now you

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Speaker 5: got this show amongst the other things that you're doing.

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Speaker 5: And it's a testament to just where you're willing to

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Speaker 2: First and foremost absolutely so appreciate how she's off season.

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Speaker 2: Right now? What are your day?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: What are your days like? These days?

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Speaker 5: You know, a well a gma. Every morning I'm talking

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Speaker 5: at five five listen to Bill Wetherson listening to Bill

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Speaker 5: Withers's Lovely Day. You got to convince yourself when it

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Speaker 4: So I'm up at five every day.

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Speaker 5: I got to read my notes, take a shower, get

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Speaker 5: It's literally you hit the I hit the door like

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Speaker 5: Downstairs and right when I walk in the door, though

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Speaker 5: I have to do like coming up on GMA to

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Speaker 5: man constantly changing. It's so different from sports. It's so

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Speaker 5: But also at the same time, it's fulfilling because I'm

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Speaker 4: I'm more attached to what's going on in the world.

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Speaker 5: And it's not just like one lane of doing one thing,

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Speaker 5: I can do other things outside of hit somebody who's

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Speaker 5: You know, it's shooting dump right. We're bigger than that

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Speaker 2: How do you keep the balance, because, like you said,

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Speaker 2: there is no really all seasons. So sometimes you have GMA,

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Speaker 2: then you got the NFL, you got a family, you

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Speaker 4: Compartmentalized?

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Speaker 5: It is it goes to me. Everything backs up to sports.

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Speaker 5: When I go to practice and I knew and we

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Speaker 5: The nego defense. I said, hold on hold to you.

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Speaker 4: So that's pretty much what I do now.

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Speaker 5: It's like I think about one thing, and when I'm there,

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Speaker 5: I'm present, man, and I do it because I don't

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Speaker 5: You never know who's watching whose list, and then you're

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Speaker 5: never that commitment for you. It may be one of

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Speaker 5: of only one thing that somebody else does. They need

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Speaker 5: And so the second I leave that though half the time.

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Speaker 5: If you asked me what happened on GMA, who did

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Speaker 4: I'd be like, that's a good question.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: December eleventh, twenty twenty one, you became the tallest man

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Speaker 5: Yeah, wait here, it is the tallest man that go

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Speaker 5: to space. That ain't hard, the little ass astronaut. Now

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Speaker 5: It was the most amazing thing I've ever done because

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Speaker 5: it makes you evaluate yourself, your life, your family, your friends,

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Speaker 5: what's important? Because you almost getting your eulogy before you.

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Speaker 2: Even right do it?

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Speaker 5: Because people, your boys are like yo, man, your boys

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Speaker 5: you always you know, y'all, y'all always up, You're busting

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Speaker 5: because you're thinking in three, four, five, six, seven days

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Speaker 5: And next thing you know, I'm up in darkness and

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Speaker 5: effortlessly throughout this cap It was the most amazing thing

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Speaker 5: And I'm not a space right like, I'm not a

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Speaker 4: This is an air. It's like a silk chamber.

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Speaker 5: The only thing I was like, Okay, if we get

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Speaker 4: Whatever it may be. But it was.

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Speaker 5: Made me the happiest I've been man, because it really

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Speaker 5: And you know, that's what we can say that Very

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Speaker 2: Man, how long does it take to get up?

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Speaker 5: The whole thing is less than twelve minutes up and down? Really, yeah,

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Speaker 5: It's like a day now and our time of twelve minutes.

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Speaker 5: But you're so in tune, like every sense you have

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Speaker 5: Then when you're sitting there and you're watching that clock

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Speaker 5: and you know at two thirty before countdown, I can

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Speaker 5: get off, but once again two twenty nine, and you're like, oh,

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Speaker 5: just have to convince yourself like, yo, this is like

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Speaker 5: a disney Land ride.

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Speaker 4: Disney World. Just gonna go with it and hope for the.

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Speaker 2: Best twelve minute running clock like they got it worked out.

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Speaker 4: Man, that's crazy.

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Speaker 5: But then when you hear like ten nine, it's like

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Speaker 4: And then when it lifts off and the thing is rumbling.

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Speaker 5: You see the smoke and the inside that capsule turns

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Speaker 5: and that thing just starts shaking and takes off. And

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Speaker 5: then they're like, you know Blue Origin, you know New Shepherd,

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Speaker 5: You cleared the towe and you just ste everybody on

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Speaker 5: the literally everybody would being unprompted, just screening.

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Speaker 3: Yah.

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Speaker 2: I mean other people were in there with you, five.

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Speaker 3: Right, Texas boy, talking about the upbringing it in Houston.

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Speaker 5: That's it. Something that simple makes me go out and hustle. Real, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I don't want to ask permission. I'm forty years old

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Speaker 4: Up, leader, chain off the door.

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Speaker 5: My dad was like, yeah, I'm a senior to Houston

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Speaker 2: So that was the first time you put on paths everything.

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Speaker 4: I was just growing up.

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Speaker 5: And so for me, it was, you know, learning and

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Speaker 5: And I just figured it out. I watched a lot

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Speaker 4: I didn't know. I was just like, okay, where we

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's it, and yeah, so football from I didn't

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Speaker 4: I grew up watching football.

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Speaker 5: And I think the simplicity of which my dad said it, like.

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Speaker 2: You followed it in your uncle's footsteps. You briefly touched

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Speaker 5: Uncle Art, Uncle Art, Uncle Ray, Uncle Ray, shout out

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Speaker 5: to my uncle Ray down in Houston. It was HBCU.

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Speaker 5: It's unique, it's special, man. And I was just talking

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Speaker 5: not like no, no, no, no, it don't.

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Speaker 4: Work that way. Y'all. They want the Frenches.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, y'all got to go back and y'all got to

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Speaker 4: Y'all got back over there.

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Speaker 5: Because people don't realize it was TSU, Yates High School,

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Speaker 5: like on top of each other. But the HBCUs experience

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Speaker 5: great friends with Corey Johnson, Chris Daggs, all my guys

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Speaker 5: the HBCU experience to you know, from the classes, to

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Speaker 2: Know, it looked like you got your like you're over

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Speaker 4: Good man all that and the projects.

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Speaker 3: George Floyd was from his two blocks away from everything

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Speaker 2: I remember Devin the dude rapping about all the schools

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Speaker 2: y'all was just mentioning right there. I was used to

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Speaker 4: Oh man, that was.

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Speaker 5: Yeah in the game, man, just getting beat up. It's

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Speaker 5: funny you go out there in the game. People don't

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Speaker 5: realize how intricate it's like basketball. People watching I can

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Speaker 5: like they just beat the hell out of me. Beat

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Speaker 5: the hell out of it as a compliment though, But

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Speaker 5: you know what, at first, old jacket was hard because

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Speaker 4: I saw that. When you're just trying to maneuver.

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Speaker 5: It's hard enough to beat one one block, but then

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Speaker 4: Frustrated.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you got two guys three hundred pounds, biggest

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Speaker 5: It means I'm good, you know what I'm saying. And

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Speaker 5: So whenever you're able to beat two guys that make

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Speaker 4: And once you get used to it, it is. It's

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Speaker 5: It's kind of like a science project and figuring out

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Speaker 5: And I'll never forget Justin Tuck, my teammate here in

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Speaker 4: Old man, I'm gonna kick your old ass out the league.

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Speaker 4: That's what.

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Speaker 5: Kick you old ass all the time, kick you out

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Speaker 5: cloths out, deside to play. You'll be my backup. And

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Speaker 5: got to show up. I can't have an off game,

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Speaker 5: I can't have an off practice, I can't have nothing.

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Speaker 5: Everybody's looking at me for leadership and guidance and then

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Speaker 5: this because he started getting those double team And I

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Speaker 4: I saw last year.

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Speaker 5: He was even talking about damn double team, getting frustrated

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Speaker 5: by it. But it's a compliment right to how great

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Speaker 4: Ain't gonna be ain't gonna quit right. How much was

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Speaker 3: When you played my heavy you said you was going

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: When I first got in the league, I came in

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Speaker 5: they told me gain weight. But back then they don't

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Speaker 5: I felt like an in Gorge tick. I couldn't move,

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Speaker 5: Everybody's like, oh, you lost weight, you want to play.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, no, I got divorced. That's stress.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, man, that stress because me the weight hair,

438
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 5: but it has hair too, and hair and grays. But

439
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,159
Speaker 5: it ended up being good because it needs to lose weight.

440
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 5: It prolonged my career. I feel like a totally different

441
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 5: player to the last three years in my career than

442
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,120
Speaker 5: I did the first twelve because I could run all day.

443
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 4: My knees didn't hurt, my back stopped hurting. It was amazing. Yep.

444
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,680
Speaker 2: I did the South of s maybe two thirty five

445
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 2: when I came in the league and finished at like

446
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,240
Speaker 2: two ten. Really, yeah, got that. It's like you said,

447
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 2: it's just the older you get. I feel like the

448
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,359
Speaker 2: lighter I had to be. I was still as strong,

449
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 2: it was just had to be lighter.

450
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 4: And that was the thing.

451
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 5: I was still as strong, but I but it actually

452
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,879
Speaker 5: made the game easier because now I knew if I

453
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 5: needed to get over there, I can make it because

454
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,159
Speaker 5: I'm lying up quicker and faster, and I know I

455
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 5: need to get there quicker than I ever knew twenty

456
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 5: ten years ago, because I didn't know what I was

457
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 5: looking for to determine where I need to be.

458
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,640
Speaker 4: So I was always a step ahead and that helped. Man.

459
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,919
Speaker 5: And then when you're playing with OC you and you are,

460
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 5: you're playing with Justin Tuck, Fred Robbins, all these young cats,

461
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 5: and they after calling you old man, it's like, oh, no,

462
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,120
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna run me up out of here.

463
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 4: I got to show y'all how it's done. So your toes.

464
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 3: Drafted fortieth overall nineteen ninety three, what do you remember

465
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 3: most about about the draft anywhere?

466
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 4: Question? They asked you doing the process, man, They asked

467
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,360
Speaker 4: you some of the stuff you had to take.

468
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 5: The giants had this like one hundred and fifty question

469
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 5: survey just to be a drafted guy and the training can.

470
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

471
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 5: I think what they wanted to do then is that

472
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 5: the combine. I think they wanted to test you to

473
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 5: see because question ninety five is just like question three.

474
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,679
Speaker 5: I guess they want to see if they're gonna wear

475
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 5: you out, how long your attention span could be. And

476
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 5: there would be stuff like if you were in traffic

477
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 5: and there was a line with six cars and a

478
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,199
Speaker 5: line with no cars, would you want to be car

479
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 5: number seven? Would you be the first and want to

480
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 5: be first in line? And I'm like, that's stupid. I

481
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 5: want to be first in line. That shows leadership. Like

482
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,199
Speaker 5: I'm like, what the hell doing one hundred fift I'm

483
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 5: not a follower. But if you didn't do it then,

484
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 5: speaking of prime, I think they asked Dean to do it.

485
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 5: Deonna said, what pick of y'all?

486
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 4: They go five? I ain't gonna be righty so.

487
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 5: But yeah, but that had to do all that stuff.

488
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 5: But you know, coming from t s U at that time,

489
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 5: I had to do what I had to do. I

490
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 5: had to do everything. And I'll never forget filling out

491
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 5: stuff like that. You've had you they come to campus,

492
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 5: they run you through all these drills more so than

493
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 5: they probably did with anybody else. And then it always

494
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 5: I'll never forget. I'm sitting with this scout, Tommy Hart,

495
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 5: he was a scout for the forty nine ers. And

496
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 5: there's another guy, my boy had a chance to get you, Yeah,

497
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 5: Todd Kelly. Todd Kelly, University of Tennessee, my guy, we

498
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 5: could come out same year. We're working out together. We

499
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 5: had singer ball together, all these things. We're sitting there

500
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 5: with this scout Tommy Hart from Tommy Hart from the

501
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 5: forty nine ers. He looks at us, he's sitting there,

502
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 5: goes Michael. You know, you'll know, I don't think you

503
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 5: ever be able to be like Ty. I don't think

504
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 5: you'll be able to close the quarterback and get sacks

505
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 5: in the NFL.

506
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 4: Like like Todd would.

507
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 5: I'm sitting right next to my boy Todd, like, well, damn,

508
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 5: you know, just shit my bucket, you know what I'm saying,

509
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 5: Like what are you doing? And to this day I

510
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 5: have not forgotten that comment. I have not forgotten the

511
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 5: list of defensive linemen who were drafted in front of

512
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 5: me or even considered to be in that same group

513
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 5: as you know, like I can tell you man from

514
00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 5: Carl Simpson to Coleman Rudolph to Eric Curry, John Cope, Flynn,

515
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 5: Dan Williams, Dan Footman.

516
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 4: Who else was there? None?

517
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 5: None of these people what their thing was. He's from

518
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 5: A he's from t s U. Yeah, competition, he can't.

519
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 5: We don't think he can keep up. He ain't this,

520
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 5: he ain't that. But one thing I found, you can't

521
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 5: teach You can't teach heart, you can't teach that zion.

522
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 5: Those are things that maybe you gotta trust your gut

523
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 5: to figure out if somebody is a fit. But I

524
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 5: was second round, fortieth pick overall, Thank God for the Giants,

525
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 5: even though Jimmy Johnson told me he's gonna pick me

526
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 5: for the Cowboys.

527
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 4: You know, I flew out the Dallas, but I wish

528
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 4: he would have was.

529
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 5: I flew out to Dallas actually before the draft, and

530
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 5: I met with Jimmy, Jerry, I met Troy Aikman, Michael

531
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 5: Michael Irvin, who's my guy?

532
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 4: I love that dude.

533
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 5: And I remember Michael doing step ups with dumbbells, and

534
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 5: this was Michael Irvan with the star. I go in

535
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 5: the weight room and just wide eyed, and he's like, yo,

536
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 5: big fellow. Remember they only love you because of this.

537
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 5: Don't think if you don't do this, they're gonna love

538
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 5: you like that. His cat is working, working, and Jimmy

539
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 5: is like, yeah, you know, Jimmy and Jerry, Yeah, we

540
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 5: want to do a draft day deal. So we're gonna

541
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 5: pick in the first round. We want to get a

542
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 5: deal done that day. We won't want any any you know, holdouts.

543
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 4: I'm like, pick me.

544
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 5: He ain't gonna worry about that. You know, I'm a

545
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 5: broke kid from TSU. I'll come right up the road

546
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 5: to Dallas. Give me a contract. I'm goody sent the

547
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 5: scout to my house on draft Day.

548
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 2: I put the icing on top too, and didn't pick.

549
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 5: You got a briefcase. I'm like, my my contracts. In

550
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 5: that briefcase. I'm sitting there with the family. He sitting

551
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 5: on the couch with is drinking, I drink, eating our food.

552
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 5: He gets a call. They trade their pick the giants

553
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 5: picked me and now working with Jimmy all these years,

554
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, you told me you're gonna pay me. Man,

555
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 5: it was I know, I didn't know you're gonna be good,

556
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 5: so h you know, I like value, so I was

557
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 5: hoping maybe I can get you in the second round.

558
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 5: But now I talked to him, He's like, well, maybe

559
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 5: the third, fourth, maybe fifth, sixth. I'm like, you think

560
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 5: I'm Tom Brady's sixth round.

561
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 4: Come on, that's funny.

562
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 3: Rookie year had a live versity six, only played six games.

563
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 3: How was that dealing with that?

564
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: So?

565
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, cause you in New York. First of all, for me,

566
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 5: New York was like I thought Houston was fast. Oh yeah, No,

567
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 5: I thought Houston was twenty four seconds, right and what?

568
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 5: And then I come here and I'm like, at first,

569
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 5: I'll never live in the city. I never drive in

570
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 5: this city. I stayed at the Marriott Marquee in Times Square.

571
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 5: I never left the room the first times here until

572
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 5: they came and picked me up and took me where

573
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 5: I needed to go. Because I would look out the

574
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 5: window at two or three in the morning, people would

575
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 5: be walking the street like ants. I said, I'm gonna

576
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 5: get mugged rob. Something's gonna happen if I go out

577
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 5: on the street by myself. So I would be walking

578
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 5: around looking like that because you know, say tourists don't

579
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 5: look up you show your tourists may be looking for you.

580
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 5: I was like naive about everything, man, And then to

581
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 5: come here and be on the team with LT and

582
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 5: Phil Sims and all those guys, and to watch guys

583
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 5: that I love growing up play and not be able

584
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 5: to be a part of it because of injury. I

585
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 5: mean it sucked because you considered the bust in a

586
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 5: lot of ways and this city is impatient.

587
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 4: You don't have time to you know, yeah they don't care.

588
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 4: They don't care. So for me, that was that was

589
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 4: that was tough, you know.

590
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 5: Being here and being hurt, and then other than that

591
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 5: playing a sick games, not really getting a feel.

592
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 4: For for how to be a pro.

593
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 5: So yeah, that that that those those years I kind

594
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 5: of washed out of my mind at that rookie year.

595
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 4: Man, that was two questions, First, how was LT?

596
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: And then when did you feel like how many years

597
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: did it take you to feel like you had your footing?

598
00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,719
Speaker 2: So first, how was LT?

599
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 4: LT was a great teammate, crazy.

600
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 5: Which when he showed up at practice, when he showed up,

601
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 5: which he don't like when I say that, but it's true.

602
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 5: And you know what else, this cat would go one

603
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 5: hundred miles per hour when he's in there in practice,

604
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 5: in his reps, and sometimes he takes scout team reps

605
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 5: one hundred miles per hour game speed, game speed. And

606
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 5: that's one thing I learned him in practice was game speed.

607
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 5: It wasn't going through the motions. And then in the meetings,

608
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 5: I didn't learn nothing from him there because this cat

609
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 5: would come in, get a towel, roll it up, and

610
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 5: lay on the floor and go to sleep entire meeting.

611
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 5: And then the coaches would you know, wake him up,

612
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,479
Speaker 5: turn on the light at the end, like not at

613
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 5: the end of the meeting.

614
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: They knew better not to wake him up. Durian Yes,

615
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: And then.

616
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 4: Would go, hey, you know, lt we put in this

617
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 4: blitz and that blitz is that okay with you?

618
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: Like?

619
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 4: Why the hell you asking him? We all and he'll

620
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 4: wait for.

621
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 5: The last two hours. This cat's sleeping. You got to

622
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 5: ask if it's okay. And if it's not, I guarantee

623
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 5: you they would have changed them. But he had earned

624
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 5: that man. He had earned the respect of these coaches

625
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 5: and and and other of us of us as players.

626
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 5: But he was a great to give your shirt off

627
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 5: his back, intimidating Like I, he's intimidating. And it took

628
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 5: me into hell recently to not be intimidated. When I

629
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 5: celt and hen I got into a big old argument,

630
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 5: not an argument, but a nice fun conversation. Like a

631
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 5: year or so ago at a golf tournament. He was like,

632
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 5: you know, I'm I should I'm the career i should

633
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 5: be the career leader in sacks for the Giants.

634
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 4: And he's going on and I said, well, you know

635
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,959
Speaker 4: you're not. That's I am. Well, if I didn't miss

636
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 4: all them games, I didn't tell you to do the

637
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 4: drugs man on you, right, But yeah, that's my guy.

638
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 4: I love dude. Man.

639
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: So how did you like rough rookie year? When did

640
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: you feel like you kind of got your footage?

641
00:29:59,480 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 4: Four years?

642
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 5: I had a great coach. Earl Leggett was my first

643
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 5: d line coach. Coach how he longed the Raiders and

644
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 5: incredible coach. If I didn't have him, I probably would

645
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 5: lasted the total four years because he taught us technique.

646
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 5: He and John Fox, who went on to become you know,

647
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 5: John Fox, and Mike Nolan was the coordinator. They taught

648
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 5: me how to watch film, how to study, like not

649
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 5: watching film as a spectator, I'm watching film as a player,

650
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 5: trying to get better and understanding what I'm watching. So

651
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 5: that really helped an Earl technique wise, no one could

652
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 5: match it. How he taught us how to take on

653
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 5: you know, these two three hundred and fifty pound guys

654
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 5: want to crush you. How do you turn into the

655
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 5: technique so that you kind of negator when you're getting doubled,

656
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 5: and all these different things like just to pass rust,

657
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 5: how to rush with power, how to rush with finess.

658
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 4: He was just amazing. So Earl where the coach you

659
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 4: glad you had not a coach you glad you have

660
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 4: because he was so hard home and he was a beast.

661
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 5: So once he we had him for three or four years,

662
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 5: and then once Earl went to d Washington. After that,

663
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 5: I don't know, it's freeing. It's like you were able

664
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 5: to have his technique, but you were able to not

665
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 5: think about doing it. It just came naturally because with

666
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 5: him you had to worry about it all the time.

667
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 5: Because you get in a meeting and man, this cat

668
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 5: would he would he would talk dirty to you, talk

669
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 5: bad to you. If you're out there getting handled, like

670
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 5: don't get hit, don't get pushed, don't get knocked down,

671
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 5: and not defend yourself, because he would tell you I'm

672
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 5: too old to get out and defend myself. Son, You

673
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 5: got to defend your own yourself. You got to defend yourself.

674
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 5: I'm too old for this ship. Or if you're in

675
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 5: the training camp and you're out there getting beat up

676
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 5: in training camp, he would literally come in and be like, hey, man,

677
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 5: I got to go on these meeting and send it

678
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 5: from everybody in the D line room. I got to

679
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 5: go on these meeting with the other coach and and

680
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 5: fight for you. I got to go out there and

681
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 5: fight for you. But look at this ship you put

682
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 5: on fence. You just sending me up there with my

683
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 5: dick in my hand, and you just say, hey, you

684
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 5: literally sitting there good.

685
00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love. I needed to be coached like that.

686
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 5: I didn't need to coach with soft on me and

687
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 5: tell me everything's okay, because it's not.

688
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:07,719
Speaker 4: He was perfect.

689
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 5: But then once he went to Washington, we were able

690
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 5: to take what he taught us and kind of be

691
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 5: free with it, and it just came naturally, all the moves, anticipation,

692
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 5: and from then on it was like boop.

693
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 4: So his found got the limit.

694
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: Dominant dominant, dominus, particularly against the run ninety seven to

695
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: two O five two thousand and five Defensive Player of

696
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: the Year in two thousand and one.

697
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 4: What does that mean to you? Everything? I never thought

698
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 4: about doing nothing like that. Man.

699
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 5: I was just playing like I love the play, I

700
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 5: love the competition. I loved the fight. And it's kind

701
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 5: of funny because I look at myself now and I'm

702
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 5: just like chilling, and I think people look at me

703
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 5: and they go, oh, you know, people don't even realize

704
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 5: I played football that nine goting.

705
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 4: TV and all that.

706
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 5: But to me, it's interesting because the other side is

707
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 5: always there and people don't really get a chance now

708
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 5: to see it, and there's no need for anybody to

709
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 5: see it. But I would walk into a locker room

710
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 5: and feel like, you know, a normal small guy.

711
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 4: But the second I put on the pads, it was

712
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 4: like superhuman.

713
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 5: My mind just switched to where I had no regard

714
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 5: for anybody, even not on my team. I used to

715
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 5: put on you know that that see Murder and Snoop.

716
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 5: That was the last song, exactly the last song I

717
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 5: put on before I went out to play, because that

718
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 5: was my mindset.

719
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 4: If you're not on my team, I don't care about you.

720
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 4: I don't care what happens to you.

721
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 5: And so for me, being Defensive Player of the Year

722
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 5: was first of all having great teammates and secondly, just

723
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 5: not limiting myself. I went from a guy who was like, oh,

724
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 5: I get a sack, and I'm like that pressure is off.

725
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 4: I got that sack, man, I can you know, got it?

726
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 5: Hopefully maybe I get another one into like why why

727
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 5: I stop at one right? What's limiting me? Let's get another,

728
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 5: another another and try to help this team win. So

729
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 5: that was that was when that award was special, more

730
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 5: special probably for my family than it was me, because

731
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, my parents and all

732
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 5: of them got a lot more joy I think out

733
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 5: of all these things, and I got a joy out

734
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 5: of making sure that they were proud and so yeah

735
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 5: that that stuff like that, that's mom and dad stuff.

736
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 4: You know. The whole career pretty much is because they

737
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 4: encouraged me to do it.

738
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 2: Let's big broke several sacklecuers are on the way. What

739
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 2: one was most important to you?

740
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 5: Breaking the LT's sack record with the Giants one that

741
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 5: pisses him off was was the most important because he's

742
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,479
Speaker 5: my favorite player, my favorite player, period, offense, defense, whatever.

743
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 4: Nobody was like LT.

744
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 5: So to get a year to play with him and

745
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 5: to just sit there and be across from him doing

746
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 5: walk throughs every day, and I can tell when he

747
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 5: was in a good mood because he be practicing his

748
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 5: golf swing, and I can tell he was in a

749
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 5: bad movie because he'd just be staring at you and

750
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 5: I'm like, I do I'm just sitting here doing my job. Man,

751
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 5: I want to smoke.

752
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.

753
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 5: So so breaking his record and having him there for

754
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 5: you know, the career record and single season record which

755
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 5: I broke against the Eagles in two thousand and one,

756
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 5: was was special. And as as far as like the

757
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 5: sack of record for the league, I never thought about that.

758
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 5: I really cared about that, But the LT stuff I

759
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 5: didn't realize I cared about until I actually did it,

760
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 5: because it's hard to follow up a legend like that.

761
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 5: And I'll never be the player LT was. No one

762
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 5: ever will all the next LT. There never been another LT.

763
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 5: Got some great players out there will be great and

764
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 5: maybe they'll be their own guy. There'll never be another LT,

765
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 5: but at least to have the city have somebody they

766
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 5: could be proud of followed up somebody like that.

767
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 4: I'm good with that.

768
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: Sitting back now, being removed for several years. What jumps

769
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 2: out to you the most about your career as a whole.

770
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 5: You gotta be damn crazy to play football. I watched

771
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 5: god get hit now and I'm like, what the hell that?

772
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 5: That amazed me that I last at fifteen years doing

773
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 5: it and didn't really have any major injuries. I tore

774
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 5: my peck and I had Liz frank at both of

775
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 5: my feet, but nothing like devastating, big comeback type of situation.

776
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 5: So the thing that amazed me most about my career, honestly,

777
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 5: it just lasting through several generations of it. You got

778
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 5: to play basketball long enough to where you I know,

779
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 5: I feel like I lasted through three different generation different eras. Yeah, era,

780
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 5: I had the the LT era, and it was like

781
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 5: that was a special era that was that was if

782
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 5: there was cell phones, we all you know, it wouldn't

783
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 5: be here. It wouldn't be here, like because the stuff

784
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 5: you just witnessed just you were in the room. You know,

785
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 5: it's like we're having a party. You got to be there.

786
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 4: Man, the toy it's like, whoa, I've never seen this

787
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 4: at Texas Southern.

788
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: This is I didn't see this a Texas Southern. Jack said,

789
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: where's the room in west room over there?

790
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 5: But but like that era, and then I had my

791
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 5: era with me and Jesse Armstead, Dallas Carter, Me and

792
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 5: Armstead and see Horn and all THEO and Keith Hamilton

793
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 5: those guys, and then I had the Eli Tuck O Sierra.

794
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 4: I stuck around probably.

795
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 5: Into two era, like an era that I would probably

796
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 5: shouldn't have been in, And that was what I I

797
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 5: look back on and I'm just I'm just happy I

798
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 5: was able to do all that, man, because the relationship

799
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 5: that I've been able to form with all those guys,

800
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 5: it's still to this day.

801
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 4: Every day. D Line were in a group text every

802
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 4: day all day.

803
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 5: And it's not one of these text where like yeah yeah,

804
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 5: talking talking ship to each other.

805
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 4: It's literally.

806
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 5: Family, family and what's important and mental health. Then if

807
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 5: somebody needs help. Fred Robbins his house burned down man

808
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 5: our defensive tackle, and so guys like, what can we

809
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 5: do send him that? Make sure he's straight, you know,

810
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 5: And and so it's more about the brotherhood and protecting

811
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 5: each other and being there for it.

812
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 4: Justice was supposed to be.

813
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 2: Obviously a whole shipload of sacks. Any quarterback in particular,

814
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: you just loved second.

815
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 4: All of them ain't gonna lie.

816
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 5: Donald McNabb I sacked more than anybody, more than anybody.

817
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: He was one of the more elusive quarterbacks about.

818
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 5: What made you gave not only lucive, even big, big

819
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 5: old dude was not easy to to take him down.

820
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 5: So I think McNabb any quarterback for the Cowboys, anybody,

821
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 5: I'm sorry Jack, anybody.

822
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 4: Any quarterback for the Cowboys.

823
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 5: Hardest hit ever put on anybody period, quarterback anybody was

824
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 5: gus for Rock with the Redskins rot. Yeah, I tried

825
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 5: to push his spine through out of his chest.

826
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 4: I hit him in the back so hard.

827
00:38:55,080 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 5: You see me coming, And yeah, Jake to snake, Plumber

828
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 5: is probably the toughest guy to sack, really, you know,

829
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 5: any time you can get a sack on yeah, on

830
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 5: the snake for either man slippery slippery, And then you literally,

831
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 5: I'm right here, just next thing, you know, you on

832
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 5: the ground, because he would do something bender's knees in

833
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 5: and do something like.

834
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 4: What the hell he got It's a break dance move.

835
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 5: And Michael Vick was another one I wanted to ask

836
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 5: you about Mike Vick. Vic Vic claims I hit him

837
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 5: harder than he's ever been hit by anybody, And to

838
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 5: this day at Fox and he's hanging out with me

839
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 5: when he's there on Thunday that Fox, he still talks

840
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 5: about it.

841
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie.

842
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 5: I did try to break Mike back to Yeah, it's.

843
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 4: Not he Hey, you supposed to have in the back

844
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 4: of your head. You got back.

845
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 5: My job is to hit you and hit you as

846
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 5: hard as I can. Plus I don't want to hurt anybody.

847
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 5: But if Vic got to go out in peace, I

848
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 5: see you don't want to let you by the bus

849
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 5: when we on the bus going home because I don't

850
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 5: want to have to chase you around on my job. Easy, yeah,

851
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 5: make our job either. But Quarterback like Michael, like Donovan,

852
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 5: like Plumber, all those guys were the toughest guys because

853
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 5: they were elusive, and then you had guys like fora

854
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 5: you had Brady. You know Tom how you not love sacking?

855
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 5: Tom Brady could, but he just not elusive like that.

856
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 4: Anyone. I'll take anywhere, man. All of that part I missed.

857
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 3: So with LTBO MJ linebackers absolutely, lt would be the

858
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 3: m jail of the league league period.

859
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, not even not even close.

860
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 2: And I do.

861
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 5: I will say, kid, you got down in Dallas linebacker Parsons.

862
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 5: He's special. Yeah, he's special, but it's his thing.

863
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 4: Now.

864
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 5: What he's doing is special, is different like Lawrence. I

865
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 5: don't know what that dude was was, how where he

866
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 5: was built, what factory he came out of. But I

867
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 5: think Michael Parsons is about as close as we've seen

868
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 5: to being dominant at that position.

869
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 4: But he's got to do it consistently, right right. He

870
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 4: got it this one year.

871
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 5: Don't you got to give it to me every year

872
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 5: like twelve like LT did twelve. You gotta give it

873
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 5: to me for twelve.

874
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah.

875
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 2: On time after the two thousand and sixth season, you

876
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 2: debated retirement after missing training camp in the preseason.

877
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 4: Lied, Oh you did?

878
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 5: That was just the story. Camp you said, want to go,

879
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 5: I want to go to camp. Yeah, they want to

880
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 5: go care I knew I was coming back. I didn't

881
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 5: want to go.

882
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: So you came back and it was a special year.

883
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: Talked to us about that season.

884
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 4: It was it was special because I didn't care. I

885
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 4: didn't care.

886
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 5: I didn't care about sacks, I didn't care about accolades,

887
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 5: I didn't care about winning. I literally came back and said,

888
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 5: I got one year. After fourteen years of always worrying

889
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 5: about winning, making sure guys are ready, you know, all

890
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 5: this crazy stuff, all that pressure, I just want to

891
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 5: come back and have fun for one year. Because football

892
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,479
Speaker 5: was not in this city, was not always fun.

893
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 2: It was tough.

894
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 5: So I came back and said, hey, whatever happens, happens,

895
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 5: played with the three months play.

896
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 4: We're gonna enjoy ourselves. We're gonna have fun.

897
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 5: And at the end it ended up being the most

898
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 5: magical run and beating the Patriots, who were undefeated in

899
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. You know, I never you couldn't even

900
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 5: written the script any better than that. I expect that.

901
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 5: So it was great to come back play with these guys,

902
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 5: have fun with these guys, laugh with these guys. Coughlin

903
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 5: would always yell at the D line, like y'all need

904
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 5: to and practice. Y'all need to tone down. We were like, no,

905
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 5: if you don't like it, those are too bad. Because

906
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 5: we knew we were leading the team anyway. Our d

907
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 5: line was strong. We knew like without us we got

908
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 5: good players and good but you need a good, strong

909
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 5: front up front, you know. But seven eight guys we

910
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 5: had who could play, and so we had fun every

911
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 5: single day. And that's what I remember the most. That's

912
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,959
Speaker 5: what I enjoyed the most. And training camp I didn't.

913
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 5: I just didn't want to do it. I did fourteen

914
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 5: year of the camp a month a year. I spent

915
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 5: over a year of my life in some dorm bed

916
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 5: up in Albany, New York. Yeah, I'm fake retired, I

917
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 5: see a little bit.

918
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did have to pay a fine when I

919
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 4: came back though. As as a linebacker, how good was

920
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 4: Randy Moss?

921
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: Randy was?

922
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 4: Randy was one of a kind. He was what is

923
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 4: the what is those praying mantis and.

924
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: Long land thing?

925
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 4: Just read it out, grab his stuff.

926
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 5: But Randy made the best defensive backs look pedestrial average average.

927
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 5: He made the fastest defensive backs slow. And then on

928
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 5: the big catchers, well, most guys gonna make sure put

929
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 5: two hands. He reads up that one hand casually, like

930
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 5: he was the backyard with his kids telling his son,

931
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 5: throw me the ball.

932
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 4: He catches it over over his other kid. He made.

933
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 5: He made everything that should have been tough look easy.

934
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 5: And and and Randy is like I did a great dude.

935
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: Man.

936
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 5: I love Randy rather Randy, and so playing against Randy

937
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 5: and watching Randy was was definitely a treat. And we

938
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 5: we played against him, we were they were. He was

939
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 5: in Minnesota in the playoff game to go to the

940
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 5: Super Bowl back in two thousand and.

941
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 2: I was him and could Pepper Chris two thousand and.

942
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 5: One, Yeah, Dante Colepepper, Randy, Chris Carter, Robert Smith that

943
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 5: running back. I mean them cats were loaded and they

944
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 5: were whipping everybody, and we ended up beating them forty

945
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 5: one to nothing. Smacked it, but we got They were

946
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 5: out of the game before the game even started. And

947
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 5: I kind of knew we had a shot because Randy

948
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 5: was arguing with security and all that before the game,

949
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 5: tried for little Wayne and then to get on the field.

950
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 5: So like we're just you know, they ain't paying attention

951
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 5: to us, and next thing you know, we're at forty

952
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 5: one nothing and heading to the Super Bowl, which we

953
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 5: got stumped.

954
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 2: But Randy wasn't undefeated Patriston, Yeah, this is one. Yeah

955
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: that was raven.

956
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 4: When they had like twelve ray Lewis is on the field,

957
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 4: that was time like how can Rady make every tackle?

958
00:44:59,200 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 2: Man?

959
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 4: He made the tagle behind the lone. Now you're making

960
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 4: the dollar. I mean ray Lewis is out here. But yeah,

961
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 4: that that that that was good to be in the

962
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, Yeah, but not good to get you up with.

963
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: So going back to that eight season, obviously the Pats

964
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: were undefeated at the time. Huge catch by Tyree. What

965
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: were you thinking when you saw that that catch off

966
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: the helmet?

967
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 5: Get up and spike it or throw it? Run the

968
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 5: next year because I don't know if he caught it. Yeah,

969
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 5: he was all over all over Harrison's all over his back.

970
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 5: And the thing is Tyree is not a not a

971
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 5: He was the wide receiver we put in the game

972
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 5: to block. You put him in the games like oh

973
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 5: they're gonna run the ball. He wasn't a guy we're

974
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 5: gonna run all these patterns with. But it goes to

975
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 5: show with extraordinary situations, people show up. He caught a

976
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 5: touchdown earlier in the game. He caught that ball off

977
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 5: his helmet. He couldn't catch a damn ball on Friday

978
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 5: in practice. I swear to you every ball he dropped

979
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 5: to the point Yello beat him up, ball, beat him up,

980
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 5: every ball. I'm not one ball he caught and dropped

981
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 5: every ball off his pass, off his head.

982
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 4: Everything was embarrassing, and the coach told us, like, leave

983
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 4: a kid. He throwing the catch. He's a wide receiver.

984
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 5: Then he gets in the game and makes one of

985
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 5: the greatest catches of the pressure I've ever seen. And

986
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 5: the second he caught that ball, I realized we won

987
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 5: the game. We hadn't even thrown the touchdown, the practico

988
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 5: yet or whatever. I'm like, you can't have something that

989
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 5: good happened, And not everybody. Eli getting out of a sack.

990
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 5: Eli so clumsy man that cat trips trying to walk

991
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 5: around the house. He gonna get out of a sack

992
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 5: and then throw it up in the middle of the field.

993
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 5: So I realized after that catching, after Eli getting out

994
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 5: of that, this game is mister thoughts on.

995
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 2: Brady obviously, in his longevity from you've seen him from

996
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: the beginning to still doing it crazy.

997
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 4: I don't know.

998
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 5: If i'd been twenty some years, mentally I would be done.

999
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 5: But apparently he's still got a chip on his shoulder

1000
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 5: from being picked in the sixth round. But it's amazing too,

1001
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 5: you know, to have a I have a business with

1002
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 5: him now, Religion of sports business, a production business, and

1003
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 5: he's as committed to that and as focused on that

1004
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 5: as about being the best in the content, being top

1005
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 5: notch and everything have to be the highest quality as

1006
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 5: he is on the football field. So being that close

1007
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 5: to him, I see why he is who he is.

1008
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 5: I see what motivates him. Now could I play that long?

1009
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 4: Now?

1010
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 5: After fifteen we won that Super Bowl, I was like,

1011
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 5: I'm good. I don't I don't need no more.

1012
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 4: I'm good. Yeah, what's next?

1013
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 5: But when you're on the field with somebody like that,

1014
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 5: and then the Super Bowl and we were hitting him

1015
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 5: so much and so fast, like it felt like they're

1016
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 5: not even trying, And then you start to realize we're

1017
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 5: just overwhelming them. And when you see him at first

1018
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 5: he gets hit, then he gets up and gets hit again,

1019
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 5: gets up, then once he starts getting up and looking

1020
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 5: at the lineman. Once all down and starts cursing out

1021
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 5: the guys. You're like, oh, now we got him, got

1022
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 5: him now, it's just legit. But the hell of a competitor.

1023
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 5: And who told me after we beat them in that

1024
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 5: Super Bowl not long ago? He said I would have

1025
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 5: I would give up a few rings for that one.

1026
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 5: Undefeated seven eighteen damneen nineteen games of bro like crazy crazy,

1027
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 5: And I don't see anybody doing that ever again.

1028
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 4: Like they did. That's when you put Brady and Moss

1029
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 4: together us. What hell?

1030
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 5: Even though we went took the leader, he threw that

1031
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 5: bomb down the mass. We're still holding our breaths because

1032
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 5: Randy damn near caught it. He got safeties, we have

1033
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 5: a head start on in corners, started running. He's still

1034
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 5: running past them. So yeah, that I did not Once

1035
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 5: that game was over, I'm like, we didn't need to

1036
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 5: play at another second to the clock. And if you

1037
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 5: we had to play them two more time, five more time,

1038
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 5: ten more times, that one probably.

1039
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 4: Only one we want to win. That's the only one

1040
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 4: that matter though, Yeah, the only one that mattered. One

1041
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 4: highlight in your career that would go viral. Now, damn.

1042
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: Man got him thinking, there's a lot of a lot

1043
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 2: of highlights. That's why.

1044
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 5: Probably no, you know what highlight I'm thinking about it,

1045
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 5: probably not even on you know, in a game.

1046
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 4: Probably fighting somebody at practice.

1047
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 2: That happened a lot that we don't. I mean sometimes

1048
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: in basketball. But y'all really be scrapping it.

1049
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you be scrapping man over simple stuff too,

1050
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 5: something as trivial as we don't. We lock up on

1051
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 5: a play and the play is over and I'm like,

1052
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 5: let you go, and then you're give me that little extra,

1053
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 5: you know, little extra.

1054
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 4: Don't do that.

1055
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 5: That's like dismissing. Don't dismiss because I ain't gonna tell you.

1056
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna take boy, you dismissed. I'm just gonna

1057
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 5: go grab you, and we're gonna do it, like in

1058
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 5: the locker room fights that we had. I had a

1059
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 5: fight with a lineman, Scott Gregg, over he somebody else

1060
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 5: did something to him, but he's still mad about it.

1061
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 5: So and he just happened to block me on a place,

1062
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 5: so he's trying to take it out on me, and

1063
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 5: I'm already ready for it because i know he's.

1064
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 4: Mad all the other stuff.

1065
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 5: So we start scrapping, grab each other's face, masks, and

1066
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 5: his helmet comes off open seas and he still got mine.

1067
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 5: So you got that, you got control. He's like trying

1068
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 5: to twist my head. You're gonna have a choice. Got

1069
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 5: a swing back. Yeah, And then I jumped down there

1070
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 5: and just and then people come grab you. And then

1071
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 5: I look up and Jesse Armstairs fighting Howard Cross across

1072
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 5: the way. So afterwards, I'm like, why are you fighting out?

1073
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 5: I ain't like him, man, I didn't like him. I

1074
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 5: just he just went over there and picked a fight.

1075
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 4: You started fighting.

1076
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, he picked a fight, but you know, you do

1077
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 5: that and you get in the locker room and Scott

1078
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 5: Grad looks at me.

1079
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 4: He got me good on that one, and then you

1080
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 4: move on. You don't hold on to it.

1081
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 5: But those are like things that I think back that

1082
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 5: are more viral plays on the field, of course, sacking

1083
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 5: Brady in the Super Bowl, sacking far for the sack record,

1084
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 5: a few few nice plays that I made that that

1085
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 5: that I might look back and go, damn, that's pretty good.

1086
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 5: So for me, it's kind of hard to even think back,

1087
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 5: like I sometimes we get out and play football myself,

1088
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 5: and so to think back and see some of the

1089
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 5: stuff that I did when I see a film film

1090
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 5: of it, I'll go, damn it.

1091
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 4: Was ballid or nice?

1092
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 3: It was bid twenty fourteen Hall of Fame inductee. You

1093
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 3: got your number ninety two retired by the Giants. Does

1094
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 3: you reflect back area talk to me about how you

1095
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 3: feel about it as a whole.

1096
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 5: I feel great because I feel like I did it

1097
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 5: the right way. I never cheated, yep. I never took

1098
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 5: a shortcut. But the work in never required to ask

1099
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 5: for anybody, my teammates, my coaches, nobody to put in

1100
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 5: any more work than I put in ever, and year fifteen,

1101
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 5: I practiced every play I was supposed to practice. I

1102
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 5: read down the field to chase the ball when they

1103
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 5: threw it down there. I did everything from year one

1104
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 5: to year fifteen. And that's what makes me more most

1105
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 5: proud when I reflect on it, and that it all

1106
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 5: paid off at the end by winning the Super Bowl

1107
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 5: and Barkley. The first time I met Charles and I

1108
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 5: didn't know Charles. I mean, I'm in a golf tournament

1109
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 5: and he looked at me and goes, Michael straight hand.

1110
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 2: I go, hey, what's up?

1111
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 4: Y nine? To men? You know you on my shit list?

1112
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 4: I'm like shuit. I like, How'm on your shit list?

1113
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 4: I don't even know you. I just met you.

1114
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 5: He goes you no, no, no, no, like you like

1115
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 5: someone who had a great career but they won shit.

1116
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 5: He said, but now you're off my list, And I

1117
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 5: was like, thank god, because I'm well your shit list,

1118
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 5: having a great career, but never like experiencing experiencing that

1119
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 5: like the whole reason you play in the first place.

1120
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 5: The win the championship and they had a confetti fall

1121
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 5: and you get to enjoy it instead of like the

1122
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 5: first time it fell and they swept us off the

1123
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 5: field with the confetti while Baltimore enjoyed it. And so yeah, man,

1124
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 5: I just want to just do it everything the right way,

1125
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 5: treating people the right way, and and kind of define

1126
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 5: the odds. That's what I'm most proud about.

1127
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 4: Great career. When did you know you wanted to move

1128
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 4: to television? When I found out I could make money? Man?

1129
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 2: Who us?

1130
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 4: Yeah definitely sounded like us.

1131
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 2: Hey, but he's making big money.

1132
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 5: Hey man, I'm telling you though, but it's like incremental.

1133
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 5: One thing I realized like when I started, and I

1134
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 5: never thought like TV is going to be my life.

1135
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 5: I would do stuff here in New York because it

1136
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 5: was fun. I could have to do something, let me

1137
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:52,959
Speaker 5: do it. And one executive who ran a network called

1138
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 5: me and asked me to go to breakfast. And I'm like, wow,

1139
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 5: this cat want to go to breakfast with me? Man,

1140
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 5: we not friends like that. But he asked me at breakfast,

1141
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 5: how much long do you want to play football? I'm sorry,

1142
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 5: it's a weird question, I said, I don't know. It's

1143
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 5: because he saw potential, you know, which I didn't even

1144
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 5: see myself at the time. And then before and I

1145
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 5: started doing the best damn sports show period and that

1146
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 5: was like a breeding ground for athletes to learn how

1147
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 5: to have conversations and ask questions and just kind of

1148
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 5: do your thing. And then Fox signed me to a

1149
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 5: deal to do that for my last few seasons of

1150
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 5: my career, and then before my last season, they actually

1151
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 5: signed me to do the deal that Fox NFL Sunday

1152
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 5: is that I do now. But I wasn't ready to retire,

1153
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 5: so they said, whenever you're ready, we'll take it out

1154
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 5: the drawer, kind of what they did with Brady It

1155
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 5: just take.

1156
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 4: It out of that drawer.

1157
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 5: Get that, buddy, get that through sixty seventy five fire.

1158
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 4: But trust me, if I got that, I'll retired after

1159
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 4: two years. But I didn't get anything near that.

1160
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 5: But I did have a deal, which gave me some

1161
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 5: comfort in knowing that I had something else that I

1162
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 5: can do.

1163
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 4: And once I started, it's addicted.

1164
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 5: Once you start doing this and you get more comfortable

1165
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 5: with the reps, then it kind of becomes like as

1166
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 5: enjoyable as playing sports. And I did from Fox, and

1167
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 5: then I did the best damn that now I did

1168
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 5: pros versus Joe's Jay Blazer.

1169
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 4: Brought that back.

1170
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 5: He and I did that show, and I just start

1171
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 5: doing little stuff that a lot of people didn't see

1172
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 5: will probably never see. But for me, it gave me

1173
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 5: experience and that I add on to everything else that

1174
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 5: I do. Like I did a show called Brothers. I'm

1175
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 5: Fox acting sitcom twelve episodes, didn't do nothing, but for me,

1176
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 5: it taught me to several things. One acting, I like it,

1177
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 5: but I don't love it enough to go to auditions

1178
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 5: all the time and take the rejection. And two that

1179
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 5: I could actually could be decent if I really wanted

1180
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 5: to be at it. But I use all that when

1181
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 5: I had to do other stuff on like GMN if

1182
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 5: I have to act a certain way live and Kelly

1183
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,959
Speaker 5: having to do skits. All these things kind of melt

1184
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 5: together in your experience. I take something out of it.

1185
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 5: If someone sees it as a successful failure, I'm still

1186
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 5: learning something, which is all I care about. And so

1187
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 5: the TV stuff now, I've learned to create opportunities, which

1188
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 5: is important. Like you guys created this show. Now, with

1189
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 5: the way the world is, you can create you have

1190
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 5: an idea, you could make it happen. You don't need

1191
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 5: a twenty other people, thirty forty fifty people to make

1192
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 5: it happen. And I think that there's a lot of

1193
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 5: freedom in that and that I enjoy too. So I've

1194
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 5: just done the game shows, hosting one hundred thousand dollars Pyramid.

1195
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 2: That was our next question, break that down because I

1196
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 2: heard that was one of your favorite shows going out talking.

1197
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 4: I loved it as a kid. But who thinks you

1198
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 4: gonna co hosting that game show?

1199
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 5: I mean that Dick Clark, that's like Royalty of TV

1200
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 5: who hosted the show. And Sony reached out and wanted

1201
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 5: me to host the show, and my partner Constance and

1202
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 5: I were like, well, we're not interested just in hosting

1203
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 5: the show. We want to you know, produce and no, no, no, no,

1204
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 5: that's what we want to do. I want to be

1205
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 5: your partners in it. And so that was immediate yes

1206
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 5: when they came back with that response. And it's been

1207
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,479
Speaker 5: fun because I mean, it's a classic show, a timeless show,

1208
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 5: a family show, like everybody can watch it, and it's engaging.

1209
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 5: And when I'm hosting the show, I'm actually I know

1210
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 5: the categories, but I don't know the words. That's the

1211
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 5: celebrity and the contestant have to figure out until they

1212
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 5: pop up on the screen. So I'm playing it with

1213
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 5: everybody at home. So it always keeps me interested in engaged.

1214
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 5: And I never thought that I would do anything like that.

1215
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 5: And I had just learned everything on the fly. I

1216
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 5: didn't know anything about daytime television.

1217
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 4: I had to learn on the fly. I didn't know

1218
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 4: anything about.

1219
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 2: News.

1220
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 4: I had to learn it. Throw you in a sinkle swim.

1221
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 5: I ain't know anything about game show go back, like sports,

1222
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 5: watch hate see what other people do that. The way

1223
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 5: you do it is not like pyramid is. It's special

1224
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 5: because it's not a game where I need to be

1225
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 5: the star. The game is the star to be the conduit,

1226
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 5: keep it going, keep everything on the in track, make

1227
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 5: sure you know people are comfortable in what they're doing

1228
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 5: and and so. Yeah, man, experience and just not being

1229
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 5: afraid to fail.

1230
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 2: Right can be shut out. Constance. I heard a nothing

1231
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 2: but good things about her. I need to meet her.

1232
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's a boss man, meet her.

1233
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 2: I need to definitely meet her. I need to meet her.

1234
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: Oh man, it's been great. We appreciate your time. So

1235
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 2: we got quick hitters right now. So first thing to

1236
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 2: come to mind, let us know one album you can

1237
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 2: listen to with no skips.

1238
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 5: Damn man, when you cause it's ain't no quick hitter.

1239
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 5: I gotta see you know this is about something, right,

1240
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 5: basketball player stuff. We got hitting the head for a living.

1241
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 5: These cats didn't get hit ahead for their brain works quick.

1242
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 5: My brain don't work that quick. I don't know my excuse.

1243
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 4: I'm still.

1244
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 5: You know what I could if I wanted to go

1245
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 5: back to by days of having to drive the prower,

1246
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 5: go with mob deep.

1247
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 4: Yeah deep back in the day on top of shook ones,

1248
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 4: shook on was he ain't the crooks son, I'm with you,

1249
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 4: I'm with you, I'm with you. Do you still talk

1250
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 4: to your socks.

1251
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, and whoever somebody hurt me because now you

1252
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 5: get buy a sock. They got left and right on them,

1253
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,439
Speaker 5: or Ellen and r or left somebody stole my idea.

1254
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 5: I was ahead of my time. Jack was so when

1255
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 5: the last time I spoke to him the other day,

1256
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 5: have left it right? What was the conversation?

1257
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 4: Like, what do you feel? Do you feel right on

1258
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 4: this foot? Like I look at the sock?

1259
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: Is serious?

1260
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 2: Have you took them off and put them on the I.

1261
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 5: Taken off my sock and I put it on the

1262
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 5: or I've grabbed two left socks and I'm like, I

1263
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 5: gotta go right because i just feel like if they

1264
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 5: ain't on the right foot and they're telling me they're gonna,

1265
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be on balance all that we'll be right.

1266
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 2: Biopicky of life, Who would play you?

1267
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 5: Oh man, damn? Who could play me? Who would be

1268
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 5: willing to get a prosthetic gap?

1269
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 4: Before I got hit by that car? I could have

1270
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 4: played because I.

1271
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 3: Had one too. I was one where I hit by car.

1272
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 3: So I got my ship fixed. Yeah, blame knocked all.

1273
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 3: You could have fixed a bit of gap back in there.

1274
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 3: It was just too my ship was gone. Oh my

1275
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 3: ship was gone. Yeah, all of them?

1276
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 4: How were you?

1277
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 2: I was playing for the Pacers then you gotta hit

1278
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 2: my car depending my team and a gun shootout.

1279
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:31,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, all them scars on my lips now from that day. Yeah,

1280
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 3: I'm still at the time. He could played me here

1281
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 3: my doppel ganger, right.

1282
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,439
Speaker 4: Actor too. Yeah, I got some stuff coming up. Cool.

1283
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 4: All right.

1284
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 3: I don't know why we're saying and why he this

1285
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 3: is the Texas boy, but since the question is and

1286
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 3: while we're going to taking Texas, Okay cool? Top five

1287
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 3: Texas athletes of all time?

1288
01:00:54,360 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 4: Earl Campbell, thank you? How is he? All right? Yeah? Yeah,

1289
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 4: you gotta beat up a different.

1290
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 5: Type of football man back then, and they literally ran

1291
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 5: him until they couldn't run him in. I would, so

1292
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 5: you know it's yeah, I would go Earl Campbell. Now

1293
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 5: before Texas. You mean, who played in Texas or have

1294
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 5: to be from from Texas? You gotta be it man, Okay.

1295
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 4: Thank you that I gotta be a course.

1296
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 2: You got to put yourself on there.

1297
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 4: Where's Ricky Williams.

1298
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 5: From San Diego? San Diego either get out of here?

1299
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 5: Who else is from Texas? I'm trying to Jesse I

1300
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 5: throw my boy just of course.

1301
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Speaker 4: So I'm a number one player coming out of high

1302
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 4: school Dallas Carter, who is a great they gotta be

1303
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 4: Shaq graduated high school in Texas.

1304
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, but Shaq wasn't from Texas. Oh, it's a whole

1305
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 5: bunch of baseball player playing Kershaw and Matthew Stafford's funniest

1306
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 5: thing that happened to you recently? My daughter start rebelling.

1307
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 4: Oh how does she?

1308
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 2: He said, funny like motherfucker, God damn it. How did she?

1309
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 4: Oh?

1310
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 5: It's funny now because IM laughing with y'all, right, right

1311
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 5: right right?

1312
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 4: Not funny?

1313
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 2: Then?

1314
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,919
Speaker 5: Well, you got twins and they're seventeen and they yeah,

1315
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 5: boy got a boyfriend.

1316
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 4: It's pretty funny round there. I got five girls.

1317
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 2: Yes, I got twin boys, but they're only thirteen. And

1318
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 2: it's less stressed for me because I just got a

1319
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 2: game how to be man, not how to your part.

1320
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, my you teacher your boys how to be men.

1321
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 5: I'm trying to keep mind away from them right away. Yeah,

1322
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 5: you got five. Hats off to you, brother, You got long.

1323
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 5: I got three girls and one boy. At least I

1324
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 5: got one one to give me a little relief. But

1325
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 5: but yeah, man, the funny thing that happened to me recently. Oh,

1326
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 5: I was in LA with my Fox guys. We were

1327
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 5: shooting the promo on the beach of Santa Monica and

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01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 5: a guy I thought we were at the skate park

1329
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 5: because they were filming us just watching kids skate and.

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01:02:58,680 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 4: Skate park in Santa Monica.

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01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 5: And as we're walking out of the skate park, you know,

1332
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 5: I'm walking with the guys, and right before we turn

1333
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 5: away from the skate park, the kid goes Michael, and

1334
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 5: I'm like, hey, what's up.

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01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 3: Man.

1336
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 4: It's like, oh good, and I'm like, hey, you know,

1337
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 4: kid knows me.

1338
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 5: They all looked at me, like, well that me say

1339
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 5: nothing to us, and I'm like, well, you know, we

1340
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 5: a little different, right right. Well, we're walking two minutes later,

1341
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 5: the kid rolls up and say, hey, man, I want

1342
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 5: you to know I was adopted by a white family too.

1343
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 5: So that movie about your life, I really appreciate it

1344
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 5: because that really helped me. He thought I was Michael.

1345
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 4: Jefferson, I mean.

1346
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 2: Your mom.

1347
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly.

1348
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 5: He trust me at the garden, sitting on floor seats,

1349
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 5: feeling good about myself years ago, and somebody, hey, what's up.

1350
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 5: Think I'm Riddick Bow. I think I'm like Tyson.

1351
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 4: I'm like, come on, man, we're all black. That's about it.

1352
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 4: That's okay.

1353
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 3: So what's your what's your favorite item in the collection

1354
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 3: by Michael straight Hand shameless plug and where can we

1355
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 3: get it?

1356
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 4: Shameless plug?

1357
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 2: I like it all. Go to j C.

1358
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 5: Penny or you can go to men's wearhouse, okay, men's

1359
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 5: wear house, j C Penny, more storage or online.

1360
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 4: All right, shameless plug over.

1361
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 2: J C Penny's. Got my T shirt Stafford T shirts.

1362
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 2: I go be going there for some of that shirt.

1363
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 2: You know what.

1364
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 4: I got to say.

1365
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 5: We do T shirts year. I'm not joking. I'm not joking. Man,

1366
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 5: our underwear or incredible. Send us something we'll wear. I

1367
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 5: will show off the show T shirts too, shirts, you

1368
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 5: know whatever. Whatever we do everything we do everything suits

1369
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 5: to ath.

1370
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 4: Leisure, T shirt, clean up shirts, underwear. We got a

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01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 4: whole line.

1372
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 2: I love it. Five dinner guests that are alive.

1373
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 5: Five dinner gets Denzel who was always the interesting conversation.

1374
01:04:55,320 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 5: I think Denzel Muhammad, Ali, my my dad. Who else

1375
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 5: would I throw in that conversation to keep it interesting?

1376
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 4: Man?

1377
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 5: I would love to have like kind of lea the

1378
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 5: right or something and last but not least. Damn, how

1379
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 5: could I leave y'all out? Maybe y'all too, but y'all

1380
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 5: come at the package. Yeah, he's the second guest man.

1381
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 5: We appreciate it's been racing too. Yeah, that would be,

1382
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 5: but that would but that would be I mean imagine, man,

1383
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 5: that would be a great conversation.

1384
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 3: Man, here's the trick question. All right, if you could

1385
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 3: have any guests on this show, who would it be?

1386
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 3: But you have to help us get him on the

1387
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 3: show or her on the show. Trick bag, that's that

1388
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 3: you like that, I'm gonna steal that. I gotta steal

1389
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 3: that doing any guests on this.

1390
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 4: Show, and I would have to help you get there.

1391
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,439
Speaker 4: And you know everybody everybody had Brady on the show.

1392
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 4: Have not.

1393
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 2: I just went and watched him play the quarterbacks golf.

1394
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 4: Yeah Brady?

1395
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, Tom Brady? Man, why your business partner to get Tom?

1396
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 5: When you get Aaron Rodgers like with I like, I like,

1397
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 5: we're gonna start with Tom though, Tom Brady.

1398
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 2: It is that one quick question we forgot to ask.

1399
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 2: We could put this back in so on the NBA side,

1400
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 2: we got Chuck Charles, Kenny, Shack, you guys have Terry, Jimmy,

1401
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 2: uh Me and you Howie. What is that like? I mean,

1402
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 2: it looks like you guys are just having fun the

1403
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 2: whole time up there.

1404
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 5: We all love Chuck and Kenny and Shaq, even though

1405
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 5: I can't understand half the stuff Shack saying.

1406
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 4: I love Shack mane. It is fantastic.

1407
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 5: And then with us and Kurt and Jimmy, Howie, Terry

1408
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 5: and Jay, we we love that show because it reminded

1409
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 5: so much of ourselves. We just have fun and what

1410
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:54,439
Speaker 5: we say on it, we don't know what the other's

1411
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 5: going to say, just like they don't. It's just like

1412
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 5: our job is to basically hang out with each other

1413
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 5: and talk about football. Was you were gonna do it

1414
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 5: your boys anyway, because we get paid to do it.

1415
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 5: And it's more fun when the show was over, when

1416
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 5: we're sitting in the green room avocado room and were

1417
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 5: watching the games together because you have all these different

1418
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 5: perspectives and then you got guys who are funny and

1419
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 5: guys who know what they're talking about when it comes

1420
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 5: to the game, but then guys who just the incredible personality.

1421
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 5: So we look at ourselves at the NFL version of

1422
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 5: that show. And that's a compliment to them, because those

1423
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 5: guys the show is unmatched.

1424
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 4: And to you guys.

1425
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 2: You guys, I mean, football is my first sport, so

1426
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 2: I love watching you guys.

1427
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 4: Man, all right, answer this then, could you have played

1428
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 4: in the NFL? He could have.

1429
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 2: I don't like to disrespect people because I know how

1430
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 2: hard it is to make it. But I was nice

1431
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 2: in football. I ran a four to three nine, leave

1432
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 2: the nation touchdowns, could really catch, can really run?

1433
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 4: You've been a ran in mind.

1434
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 2: I played football, Yeah, I was. I was the number

1435
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 2: one receiver in the country my senior year Leason Nations.

1436
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 2: I just thought longevity when I went to UCLA and

1437
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 2: the basketball program is coming off the national championship, and

1438
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 2: I just thought longevity would be I would have made

1439
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 2: more of a splash impact in football. But I don't

1440
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 2: think at six eight it wasn't really out there.

1441
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 5: You were smart, Yeah, because you know you always get

1442
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 5: those guarantee contracts too.

1443
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what we always go.

1444
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 2: I don't understand how you guys didn't like you guys

1445
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,879
Speaker 2: are literally risking your life every day, but it's not guarantee.

1446
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 5: Well, the argument is always that you're too many guys

1447
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,600
Speaker 5: and if guys get hurt, how to substand how do

1448
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 5: you maintain a league when you're paying so many contract

1449
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 5: for guys who wouldn't even be available and who would

1450
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:34,839
Speaker 5: be out of the league.

1451
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 4: For so long.

1452
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 2: NBA is doing that ship motherfucker's not playing this.

1453
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, still get paid in some way, some way, it

1454
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 4: can get done.

1455
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,799
Speaker 5: And yeah, but you're out there, man, and you literally

1456
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 5: when you become a VET and you make it after

1457
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 5: the first, second, third game, then you're you're you're guaranteed.

1458
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,759
Speaker 5: Once you make that final roster, you guarantee that season.

1459
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 4: That's it. That's crazy.

1460
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 5: And so every every year you're out there trying to

1461
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 5: earn it. And that's that's the challenge. Like it's there

1462
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 5: is no glide. There is no oh year ten, eleven, twelve,

1463
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 5: I got a glide through now. And that's why when

1464
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 5: you do contract, you try to get a big of

1465
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 5: a signing bones as you can, because that at least

1466
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 5: will make them, you know, a little less, you know,

1467
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 5: thinking about cutting you because you got.

1468
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 4: So much of their money. You're popping.

1469
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 3: In the NFL, they got more teams with billion dollar

1470
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:22,480
Speaker 3: evaluations in NBA teams.

1471
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 2: A lot more.

1472
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can't let you leave Inada here man, some

1473
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 3: all the smoke gear merch.

1474
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 4: Definitely definitely want to see your rocket.

1475
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 3: We all, you know, we swaggy okay, And I know

1476
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 3: you got some fresh kicks to go with the cause

1477
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 3: you got some fresh ones on today.

1478
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 4: You know, Jesus, just the every day through a round.

1479
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 5: But I got yeah, I got more shoes, and I

1480
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 5: ain't gonna be somebody unwrapped the Christmas gift and they

1481
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 5: like they're trying to save the paper.

1482
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,640
Speaker 4: We don't do that. Open. We got enough wrapping for

1483
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 4: your sir.

1484
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 5: All the smoke merch, all right, what I'm talking about America,

1485
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 5: y'all get y'all some of that.

1486
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 2: The honor for us to have to see you Mann,

1487
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 2: thank you by the time. We know you're really busy.

1488
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 4: But my brother is your poem.

1489
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 2: I told you, I told.

1490
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 4: We just gave it up. I want to say thank you.

1491
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 2: We'll see y'all next week.

1492
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 4: All the smoke