1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Good Morning. This is Laura. Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast. 3 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Today's tip is to know when it's smart to make 4 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: your goals more challenging and when you're best off keeping 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: them simple. Both are sometimes wise, but in general I 6 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: think the latter is more often the case than the former. 7 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: I was thinking of this when I got a letter 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: from a Before Breakfast listener who had been setting daily 9 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: fitness goals on his phone recently. He wrote, my phone 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: asked me to change my daily fitness goals because I 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: had been meeting them fairly frequently. This got me thinking, 12 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: is it better for someone to set goals that are 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: right on the cusp of being attainable and being accepting 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: of falling a little short from time to time, or 15 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: to set goals that should be achievable and celebrate even 16 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: more are when you exceed those goals. It's a good question, 17 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: and there's no universal right answer. I think that the 18 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: answer varies depending on what you're trying to do. For instance, 19 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: many people pursue personal records or prs and races, and 20 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: the whole point of a PR is that once you 21 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: set a PR, you have to go faster to set 22 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: a new one. If you're recovering from an illness or injury, 23 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: it might make sense to raise your goals over time, 24 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: because something that was difficult at the beginning might be 25 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: really easy in a few weeks or months, and so 26 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: it might make sense to push yourself since you know 27 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: that the future will be so different from the present. 28 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: That said, I'm a much bigger fan of what I 29 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: call process goals than outcome goals. Outcome goals are things 30 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: like running a sub two hour half marathon, are getting 31 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: an A in a class, or signing up a certain 32 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: number of new clients for bank accounts. It's not that 33 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with these goals per se. It's that 34 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: some factor are out of your control, which can be discouraging, 35 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: and in certain situations, outcome goals can also skew people's incentives. 36 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: An A in a class is not a good in 37 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: its own right. It's just a letter on a piece 38 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: of paper. What matters is that it represents the accumulation 39 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: of knowledge. But when the A becomes a good in 40 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: its own right, people become tempted to cheat. Think of 41 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 1: school systems fudging test scores. Likewise, you can bring new 42 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: clients to a bank by offering a great product and 43 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: great customer service. Or you can invent new accounts out 44 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: of whole cloth and hope no one notices before the 45 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: bonus checks get cashed. I think we've all read the 46 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: headlines about that story. Process goals, on the other hand, 47 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: are goods in their own right. These are habits by 48 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: another name, and they do tend to lead to the 49 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: desired outcomes over time. But even if you don't meet 50 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: a specific outcome, you're probably better off than would be otherwise. 51 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: A process goal is something like my running streak, running 52 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: every day for at least a mile. Or if we 53 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: think of our academic example, rather than aiming to get 54 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: an A in a class, you set a goal to 55 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: study for at least five hours a week, And rather 56 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: than focus on how many new clients you land, you 57 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: set a goal to ask existing clients to refer people 58 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: to you every time you have a positive interaction. By 59 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: their nature, process goals tend not to benefit from raising 60 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: them over time. The point is to just keep doing 61 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: them again and again and again. By keeping them relatively simple, 62 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: we keep them in our lives, even when it would 63 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: be easier not to Most days I run a lot 64 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: more than one mile, and I'm always happy when I do. 65 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: But by keeping the mile as my goal, I don't 66 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: feel any resistance to it, and I don't feel like 67 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: a failure. On the days when I can't run much 68 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: more in a mile, I just keep going. So in general, 69 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: my thought is that unless you're really gunning for something 70 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: big and you're excited about a more challenging goal, it's 71 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: best to keep the goals simple and doable. Our listener 72 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: is probably better off aiming for five thousand steps a 73 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: day and exceeding this regularly, but still feeling good on 74 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: the days when he's tired or on a plane for 75 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: ten hours and he only hits five thousand steps, then 76 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: following his fitness apps directive to change his goals. Daily 77 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: success is motivational failure, generally, isn't. I prefer to celebrate 78 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: what goes right now. I know that goals are a 79 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: big deal in productivity circles, so I'm happy to get 80 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: notes from people telling me why I'm wrong and challenging 81 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: goals that involve a big risk of failure are the 82 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: way to go. You can let me know what you 83 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: think at before breakfast podcast at I hurt media dot com. 84 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: In the meantime, this is Laura. Thanks for listening and 85 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: here's to making the most of our time. Hey, everybody, 86 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear from you. You can send me 87 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: your tips, your questions, or anything else. 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