1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Tom Silverstein has answers packers beat reporter for 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. If I asked you a week 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: ago what you thought was going to happen, how different 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: would that be with the scenario we have this week. Tom, 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: A week ago, I would have predicted what happened. A 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: month ago, I would not have predicted that. When I 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: started to see reports that this wasn't about money, you know, 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,959 Speaker 1: this was about principal and things like that, that's when 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: I knew he was going to report, because it was 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: sort of the process of him saving face, getting back, 12 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, deciding that Okay, it's time to play football 13 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: and time to end this whole thing. So that's kind 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: of the feeling I got a week ago. What's going 15 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: to happen today? So he'll come in, all right? Apparently 16 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: he is in. I didn't track his plane. I am 17 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: kind of behind him. You're slipping, you're slipping. If this 18 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: was I would have I did that all my bellman 19 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: at the airport. I'm watched though, and so he'll report 20 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: with the rest of the veterans, they do some conditioning. 21 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: I think what will really happen is he'll go right 22 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: to the front office and sit down and they'll talk 23 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: about exactly what's going to happen with his contract, with 24 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: his demands, you know, what they're gonna actually do for him. 25 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: And then I assume he's going to report and they'll 26 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: practice tomorrow morning. Okay, I got a couple of questions 27 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: here that and help me understand the language. Are they 28 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: going to sign an addendum here? And then how does 29 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: it work that Aaron Rodgers if he once doesn't want 30 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: to stay, then he can he's still going to be traded, 31 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: but he can tell the packers where he wants to 32 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: be traded. Yeah, so we're all dealing on the basis 33 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 1: of the reports which we know are coming from his agents, 34 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: and so there's a let me start. There's a couple 35 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: of things I'm still really skeptical about. One is that 36 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: there's no new money in the deal. If that's true, 37 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: then I wonder why he went through all of this 38 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: in the first place, because, I mean, let's let's be 39 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: honest about pro professional sports and players versus teams. It's 40 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: about money and money can it may not he may 41 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: not need the money, but it's a pride factor, and 42 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: so I'm guessing what they're doing is they're removing the 43 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: final year of the contract, which effectively makes it necessary 44 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: for the Packers to trade him next offseason. If he 45 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: wants to be traded, it'll be no problem because they're 46 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: not going to let him get to that year a 47 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: free agency because if he got leads in free agency, 48 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: they get nothing for him, basically a comp pick. So 49 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna want to trade them next offseason. Jordan Love 50 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: will have had two years in the system. They know 51 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: the best case scenarios. They win a Super Bowl this year, 52 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: Rodgers moves on and goes try and tries to win 53 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl next year. Now there is supposedly language 54 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: that he can be deny trades. You know, he can 55 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: pick the team that he wants to go to, so 56 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: there will have to be some kind of sign and trade. 57 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: But to me, all of it, and I hate to 58 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: say it pains me to say it, but I think 59 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: the Packers, it's not the narrative, but I think the 60 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: Packers came out on top on this, I really do. 61 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't go against the NFL. A single 62 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: guy cannot go against the NFL and win. They're at 63 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: Mega Corporation, and they got rules in place that kill 64 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: you as an employe. And I think I think he 65 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: didn't get that much. If I could take the Packers 66 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: back to February and you could trade Rogers or go 67 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: back to draft night when they took Jordan Love right, 68 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: which do over would the Packers take? I think if 69 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: they knew he wasn't going to play. I mean, now, 70 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:28,239 Speaker 1: I guess this is probably me the fantasy general manager talking, 71 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: but I would have traded him in February. But it's 72 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: it's regardless trading him now. They could do it. But 73 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: as it's been pointing it out to me numerous times, 74 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: if they trade them next spring, they know what kind 75 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: of picks they're getting, you know, they know if they're 76 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: trading them. If if it's Denver and Denver's coming off 77 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: a six and ten season, that's a great thing for them. Right. 78 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: If they trade them now and they trade them to 79 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: Denver and Denver go its twelve and four, then picks 80 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: are not worth all that much. So at least they 81 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: would know what they're getting and they could set the 82 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: compensation that way. And I wondered, if you knew that, 83 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: you were probably headed towards some kind of divorce. You 84 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: could have traded him, like the night of the draft, 85 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: I know Adam Schefter made it sound like it was imminent. 86 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: You could have traded him to San Francisco had the 87 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: three pick overall and whatever else in there, or the Rams. 88 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: You could go back, and the Rams probably would have 89 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: signed up for Aaron Rodgers before Matthew Stafford. I think 90 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: there were so many options out there. Tom. That's why 91 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: even now, if Aaron Rodgers goes, hey, I want to 92 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: go to Denver, well, what's Denver give up? That's true 93 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: compensation for Aaron Rodgers. But hey, you've promised him that 94 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: you're going to trade. I mean, it's just the gray 95 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: area here is you know, yeah, dark shade of gray. Yeah. 96 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: And I think you mentioned that, what if he gets 97 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: hurt this year and then, you know, he plays six 98 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: games and he's coming off of some kind of an injury, 99 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: then what are you going to get for him? And 100 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: who's going to want to trade for him at thirty 101 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: nine years old or thirty eight years old and injured. 102 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: Now that that's a risk every player goes through. But 103 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: to me, the Packers felt that this was somewhat of 104 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: a bluff and they were right. You know, in the end, 105 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: they were right. It was a bluff. He's back. They're 106 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: going to make This has been a three year process 107 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: to get to the super Bowl. You know, they've been 108 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: to two NFC Championships. They built the team, they filled 109 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of holes this year and now you know, 110 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: they had their quarterback in place, and whatever happens after 111 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: this year, they're in. They're in salary cap hell anyway. 112 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: So that's kind of an all or win, all or 113 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,559 Speaker 1: nothing year for them. So they needed Rodgers. They really 114 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: didn't need Rogers. Okay, so if you're Davante Adams, Rogers 115 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: is back. He's probably saying, hey, if I'm coming back, 116 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: I want Davonte Adams signed up long term. If you're 117 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: Dvante Adams, do you sign up for a long term 118 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: contract or do you say I want the same deal 119 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: as Aaron Rodgers. If if if I'm Davante Adams and 120 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: they throw down forty million guarantee or a forty million 121 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: dollars signing bonus or whatever, you're going to take it. 122 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: You you take what you know, you know with the 123 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: organization that you like, where you felt you've been treated Okay. 124 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: I think the whole Davante Adams thing was a negotiating 125 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: ploy and it's been used for years and years, and 126 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: I remember when Brett Farve was going through this, Ryan 127 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: Grant was running back with Packers who's contract was up 128 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: or wanted to renegotiation, and he used it perfectly, you know, 129 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: and got a great deal out of it. He didn't 130 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: want to leave. I mean, I don't think DeVante Adams 131 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: wants to leave, but why not use whatever you can 132 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: to leverage, you know, as leverage, so you can get 133 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: a lot of honnie. I think they'll get a deal 134 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: done with with Adams. I don't think that's going to 135 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: be a problem. And I think ultimately he'll either play 136 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: enjoy playing with Jordan Love or somebody else. Don't. If 137 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: Jordan Love doesn't pan out, then they'll go after somebody else. 138 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: Do you know if they have a true assessment of 139 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: Jordan Love right now, Tom that No, I don't think so. 140 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: I think they have all of the athletic assessment, but 141 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: they have no idea how he's going to react during 142 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: um actual play. They this is this is kind of 143 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: going to be the summer of Jordan Love. I think 144 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: you know Rogers will get a lot of the practice snaps, 145 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,599 Speaker 1: but the summer of love is what we need to 146 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: call it, Tom, Yes, Summer I Love. Yeah, I just 147 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: saw that. That's really good too. I think I think 148 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: he will play almost all the snaps. You know, Blake 149 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: Bortles will get a hand full of snaps. But this 150 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: is this is the summer for Jordan's love to get 151 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: as many naps as possible and for them to really 152 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: get him to advance. You get one question for Rogers, 153 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: what do you ask him? What did you get out 154 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: of it? I think that's really it. What did you 155 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: get out of five months of you know, drama? Was it? 156 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: Was it worth it did causing angst amongst Packers fans 157 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: and the organization and all of that. Was that revenge 158 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: for you? Did you feel that that even the scales 159 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: for whatever grievances you have against the Packers? I guess 160 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: that would be my question. And I felt like it 161 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: was a little bit of a pr move with his 162 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: agent or agents by telling Chefty, Hey, we told you 163 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: this wasn't about money, right, Yeah exactly? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 164 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: I mean I tweeted that, like it just seems like 165 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: all of a sudden. Now, negotiations are on with Tavante Adams. 166 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: You know, I sort of felt like they were gonna say, okay, 167 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: you know, the negotiations are on with Tavante Adams. He 168 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: didn't get any new money. And the wildfires out west 169 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: have gone out, you know, all because ear and Rogers 170 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: is coming back. You know, I expected that to be 171 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: in there too. This just in from Tom Pelicero. Aaron 172 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: Rodgers has arrived at lambeau Field. Just want to let 173 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: you know I gotta go. Yeah, I'll let you go. Tom. 174 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: Thank you, as always, I appreciate your time. It's a 175 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: pleasure anytime. That's Tom Silverstone, the Packers beat reporter, Milwaukee 176 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: Journal Sentinel. Be sure to catch the live edition of 177 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six 178 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app. 179 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: Matt Damon has just joined us. I'm just looking at 180 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: your Biomatt. How many sports movie have you been in? Oh? Uh, 181 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. Um, off the top of my head, 182 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: like there was the Rugby one, there was Invictus. Um. 183 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I don't know. You're looking at 184 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: my bio. You'll probably have a better idea. I'm not 185 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: sure how many movies I've done. I've probably done more 186 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: than fifty. So all right, UM, I got you as 187 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: an extra in Field of Dreams. That's true. Yeah, Ben 188 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: and I were extras in that actually just to just 189 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: to go to Fenway. We uh, we were extras in 190 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: uh in Field of Dreams, Like there were probably three 191 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: thousand extras in a big crowd scene when Kevin Costner 192 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: and James Earl Jones are at the baseball game. But 193 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: how old are you? Do you get to talk to Constner? 194 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: You know what we did with Costner came out and 195 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: hung out with the extras. Um and uh and we 196 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: Ben and I went and struck up a conversation with him. Um, 197 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: and he probably gave us five minutes. Like he was 198 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 1: incredibly uh generous. Did you did you pitch a movie? 199 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: Did you do your elevator pitch? No? No, no, no no. 200 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: We just told him, We told him we knew we 201 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: wanted to be actors. I was probably seventeen and Ben 202 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: was probably fifteen, and we were we were already traveling 203 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: to New York and auditioning and uh, you know, we 204 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: were like we have agents and uh, he was really 205 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: you know he was great. He was you know, it's 206 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: like these two kids who were like you know, and 207 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: it happens to me all the time. People come up, 208 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: you know, kids come up they're like, I'm really, I'm 209 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: I want to be an actor, and it's like fanta, 210 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: good for you, man, like go get them school ties. 211 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: You were running back, you had fumble issues, Yeah, I did, 212 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: I did. I mean it's it's prep school football in 213 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty five. We were running out of a wing 214 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: te So I don't think it was like a very 215 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: serious sports movie. But we did go and uh and 216 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: and practice like a month early, like they wanted to 217 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: make sure that um, you know that that that we 218 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: that we knew what we were doing. And then you 219 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: lost your girlfriend. Brendan Frasier, Listen, it can happen. It's 220 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: an occupative. Brendon's a great guy. You're not the first 221 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: guy to lose a girl to Brendan Frasier. Yeah, I 222 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: doubt I am the first guy to lose a girl 223 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: to Brendan. Is Rounders is sports movie? That's a good question. 224 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: I mean you probably have to ask professional poker players. 225 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they would tell you it's a 226 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: sport um but uh but uh, I mean yeah, I 227 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: mean it's yeah, they I would say, I mean just 228 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: the architecture of the script. Yes, it's a sports movie. 229 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: Like it's it's exactly how you would design it if 230 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: we were wrestling or playing basketball. So so, and then 231 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: in that sense, it's a sports movie. Who's more complicated 232 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: or maybe interesting? John Malkovich er Ed Norton, Listen, those 233 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: are two of our best actors, you know on the 234 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: you know, two of the best that our country has produced. 235 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't say either as less complicated than the other. 236 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: They're both great guys, and they're both a lot of 237 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 1: fun to work with. They're both very serious, but they 238 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: both work out of a place of total joy and 239 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: they want it to be fun. So so so no, 240 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: I couldn't really draw a distinction between them. Let me 241 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: give you the official introduction here. He's Matt Damon, actor, producer, screenwriter, 242 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: and Tom Brady apologist. It says here, as an apologist, 243 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: I don't apologize for anything. Listen, I love that guy. 244 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: I make no apologies. Okay, if the Bucks played the 245 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: Patriots in the Super Bowl, who would you root for? 246 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: Tom Brady? Okay? The movie is called Stillwater opens in 247 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: theaters this Friday. And so you're you're a guy from Oklahoma. Stillwater. 248 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: You travel to France, your daughter is there in prison. Now, 249 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: let me do this. Let me see if I can 250 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: do the connect the dots. Abigail Breslyn is your daughter. Yeah, 251 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: Abigail Breslin played in Little Miss Sunshine. She was the star. 252 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: Greg Kinnear played in Little Miss Sunshine as her dad. 253 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: You guys played Stuck on You the Farley Brothers, and 254 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: then you met your wife when you were doing that movie. 255 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: How did I do? You got everything right? Okay? Well 256 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: that's it. That's nothing else to talk about there, MANU. 257 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: How do you nail an accent? How do you know when? Okay, 258 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: I got that Oklahoma accent? Uh? Well, it's it's tough. 259 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you got to you gotta spend a lot 260 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: of time with it. I went down I actually worked 261 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: a lot in Texas when I was in my twenties. 262 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: Just a lot of the movies I got were down there. 263 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: So I lived down in that part of the world 264 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: quite a bit and love it down there, and so 265 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: I kind of I remember the rhythm and the cadence 266 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: and how people talk. But but you know, this was 267 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: a very specific place and a very specific type of 268 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: guy is a roughneck UM. And so I just went 269 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: down to Oklahoma and hung out with those guys, um, 270 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: And that's usually the best way to do it. And 271 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: I also have a dialect coach, Tim Monich, who I 272 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: you know, we can we can analyze and sit there 273 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: and write down on paper exactly what's happening. But but 274 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: the best way to do it usually is to listen. 275 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: Tim will have on file a lot of different voices 276 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: and a lot of different and and we'll just listen 277 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: and and and just start to get into the uh 278 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: you know, you kind of buy osmosis. You eventually eventually 279 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: pick it up. But but you you do some technical 280 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: work so you understand what's happening. But there's no there's 281 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: no substitute for just going there and hanging out. But 282 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: when you go to hang out, how long does it 283 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: take for the locals to allow you to kind of 284 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: absorb whatever you're absorbing. Yeah, that's a good question, because 285 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, we got down there and those 286 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: guys were understandably wary of us. You know, they're like, 287 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: what do you like Hollywood? Like liberal what are you 288 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: doing down here, like making a movie about a roughneck? 289 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: Like what what are your intentions? You know what I mean, like, 290 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: you know, and uh and I think it, you know, 291 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: once they realized, like we you know, we we were 292 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: just trying to get it right. And uh. And this 293 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: is a movie that has a lot of empathy and 294 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: compassion for this character that I play. You know, it's 295 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: it's it's a movie about this journey this guy goes on. 296 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: So the once, you know, they once they realized that 297 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: that we weren't there to poke fund at him or anything, 298 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: that we were there to really, you know, to get 299 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: it accurately. They they were incredible and and really brought 300 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: us in. I mean, you know, it's one of the 301 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: great things about my job. I get to like parachute 302 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: into somebody else's life who's like, you know, I mean 303 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: that roughnecks culture in Oklahoma is so different from you know, Cambridge, Massachusetts, 304 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: where I grew up. You know, I mean really it's 305 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: like it's like a different world. And and I can't 306 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: get it right unless unless those guys let me come 307 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: in and and and and see see what their life 308 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: is like. And uh and and and and talk to 309 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: them about it and gather information, and they just were 310 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: They just could not have been more helpful. Do you 311 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: sprinkle in McConaughey type accent, like accidentally his accents a 312 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: little softer than then within the one in this movie. Uh, 313 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: you know, and and I mean Matthew's you know, Matthew 314 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: can can play it up or down. Matthew actually can 315 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: do a perfect impression to me. Um, because I was 316 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: you know, when we did Interstellar together. You know, he 317 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: was like, all right, you do this impression to me, 318 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, I just found out that 319 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: like my voice could sound like yours if I just 320 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: dropped down a little bit and went south. And he 321 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: and I'm like, if you come up and go north, 322 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: you'll you'll you'll get me perfectly. And he started doing it. 323 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: We were in a van in Iceland and I was crying. 324 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: I was like, because he's like he's perfect, but he 325 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: but he was like, I need a catchphrase. I need 326 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: a catch phrase for you because I because I would 327 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: do like, you know, hey, I'm gonna take my shirt off, 328 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: you know. Like He's like, he's like, you have a 329 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: catch free I need a catchphrase. So we got to 330 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: come up for with a catchphrase for Matthew and then 331 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: and then you can hear could he fool your wife? 332 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: We have a similar vocal quality in a certain like 333 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: if we if we aim at it like we we could. 334 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: I'm sure he could over the phone. Uh fooler. Yeah, 335 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: Oh you know what bagger Vans. I forgot to mention 336 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: that another sports movie. Okay, well you had to bring 337 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: it up. Wait you're not You're not all in on 338 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: Bagger Vans. No, well listen, I I love the experience. 339 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: I love you know, Robert Redford and Will and Charlie's 340 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: and like you know that that. The experience was great, 341 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: and I learned how to play golf. But I've never 342 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: picked up a golf club before that movie. I grew 343 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: up in a city and I picked up and I 344 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: saw that. I look at that movie and cringe when 345 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: I look at my my my golf swing. But to 346 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: be fair, I look at my golf swing and cringe today. 347 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: So we had an idea for Funny or Die. Let's 348 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: say you go to some place in Europe and you 349 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: just start running and jumping into a car and you 350 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: have some who's chasing you. People is people will think 351 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: that there's another Born movie being shot, Like you just 352 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: do it out of nowhere. You just start running down 353 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 1: the street. Yeah, and just jump into like a smart car. 354 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: Yeah somebody. Yes, yeah, you gotta get me out of 355 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: here right now. We gotta move, We gotta move right 356 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it might work. I also might 357 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: get like like hit in the head with a hammer. 358 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: You could, you could, you could, But it'd be funny 359 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: or Die. That'd be the die part of it. It would, 360 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: it would. It's actually the first skit that for Funnier 361 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: or Die. How old is too old to be Jason Bourne? Uh, listen, 362 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: if there's a good story, it's you know, you're never 363 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: too old to be that guy, you know. And I 364 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: you know, look eventually, I mean I would love to 365 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: do another one, and uh you know, and and at 366 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: some point I'm gonna have to pass it on, you know. 367 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: I would love to figure out a way to hand 368 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: it off to somebody, um, you know, a man or 369 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: a woman. I mean, you know, like you know, to 370 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, as if that name is uh, you know, 371 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: use and it can be anybody right like um so 372 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: uh but but but we got to come up. It's 373 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: got to be good. I just you know, I love 374 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: those movies. I I you know, we we we all 375 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: there are a lot of really great friends of mine 376 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: who put a lot into those and and we don't 377 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,239 Speaker 1: want to mess it up. So so if we do, 378 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: it's got to be good. What was the stunt you 379 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: did in any of the Born movies where you look 380 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: back and go, what the hell was I thinking? I 381 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: think on the first one, I climb when when I 382 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:41,239 Speaker 1: climb out down the embassy in Prague. I remember shooting that, 383 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: and um, I was in a harness on the side 384 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: of this building and it was it was a particularly 385 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: cold day in the winter in Prague, so let's say 386 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: it was like minus ten and I was so cold, 387 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: and I'm hanging on this thing and I'm a couple 388 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: of hundred feet up in the air and trying to 389 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: grip this wall. And I just remember, and I was 390 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: about twenty nine, thirty years old, and I was like, 391 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: what am I doing? This is crazy? But but the 392 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: sequence is great. It was worth it. And and Matt 393 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: wants everybody to know that this new movie Still Water 394 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: has gotten great reviews, standing ovation it uh con right, 395 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: yeah can con Yeah, Yeah, it was it was. It 396 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: was great. And uh and um. It was also the 397 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: first time I'd been in a movie theater in you know, 398 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: almost two years, and so so I got I got 399 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: oddly emotional. I was like, I got choked up and 400 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 1: I kind of snuck up on me. Um. But uh, 401 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: but it was it felt great to be in a 402 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: movie theater again. You know. I mean, I'm so I mean, look, 403 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm like everyone else, I'm so sick of 404 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: this COVID thing. I you know, it's like I can't 405 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: get back to normal life fast enough. But you know, 406 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: I know it's gonna I know we're Delta variant and 407 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: all that stuff and we're dealing with it. But but uh, 408 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I miss hanging out with people. But also 409 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: so and you want people to know this isn't like 410 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 1: Liam Neeson and Taken because people like right, because it 411 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: feels like, oh, somebody's going over to some place in 412 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: Europe to get his daughter back. Yeah, thank you for 413 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: bringing that up, man, because particularly for like people who 414 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: listen to this show, which I do. Um, you know, 415 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: the movie might look like one of those movies because 416 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: the setup is like that, right, you know, his daughter's 417 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: in jail. He you know, he you know, it's like 418 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: one of those things. And uh, it's it's you're expecting 419 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: that kind of Liam Neeson hero or Jason Bourne for 420 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 1: that matter, to come in and and you know, kick 421 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: some ass and have the have the skill set to 422 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: kind of solve all the problems. This is decidedly not 423 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: that movie. It's this is a movie about a real dude, 424 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: a real like a roughneck who's in that situation, who 425 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: comes over and he's his daughter's five years into a 426 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, this sentence for a crime that she didn't commit, 427 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: and he's he's been an absentee dad as all. He's 428 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: been a he's been a he's been a he's messed 429 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: up this relationship and he's trying to repair the damage 430 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: that he's done with his you know, by his failures. 431 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: And he's doesn't have the skill set and he doesn't 432 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: have you know, and he's just doing his level best 433 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: to help his daughter. And so it's a it's a 434 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: it's much more of a drama than a thriller. Uh So, 435 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: just anybody listening to it, if you go there expecting 436 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: like any kung food, you're going to be sorely disappointed. Us. 437 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: It's it's a movie about real people. Where are you 438 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: right now? But who came up with the background there 439 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: in that room? I mean, I'm in Brooklyn, New York. 440 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm at the one hotel where they're doing this press 441 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: junket and uh yeah, look at these there's jars of 442 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what those What is that? I don't know? 443 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: It's what hipsters do. Yeah, but you live in Brooklyn, 444 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: don't you. I do. I live down the street. But 445 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: I didn't want to do this in my house. I 446 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: got a church and state man, I got separate five 447 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: years ago. Today was the last time we had you on? 448 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: Is it really that long? Five years ago? Today? Where 449 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 1: the hell of you? Did you get too big for us? 450 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: Because if you did, clearly not. Okay, now you're crawling back. 451 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: I knew, I knew it for a little dp in 452 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: my life. And I think that you called in and 453 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: you you called in eight years ago from your home 454 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: in Miami, and PAULI picked up and he said, oh, 455 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: you're calling from Miami, and you go. I thought my 456 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: number was blocked. And we had called our idea idea, 457 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: and you asked Paully, my producer, Hey, how do I 458 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: how do I get this blocked, this number, Paul, He's like, 459 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: I don't know. Don't you have like agent, don't you 460 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: have people who help you with this stuff. That's really 461 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: funny because I still have the same number and it's 462 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: and it's blocked, and everybody complains like if if I 463 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: FaceTime someone, they're like, I knew it was I don't 464 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: know how it got blocked and I didn't remember that. 465 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: So maybe maybe Pauli's the one who told me how 466 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: to block it night and that was the genesis of 467 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: all of it. PAULI used to have Matt's number time, 468 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: and I can't deny her. No, say it to him 469 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: and then he'll see if it's true or not. I 470 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: don't want to turn to Jason Bourne on me, Polly, 471 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: I've got I've got my phone on me. Just just 472 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: just text Matt number. Just text Matt and just say 473 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: is this your number? Hey? Good luck with the movie 474 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: and um and you know, don't wait another five years. 475 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to, man, Okay, Hey, listen, I gotta 476 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: ben and I have this movie, The Last Duel, coming 477 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: out in October. I'll come back and talk to you 478 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: in a couple of months. That would be great. Hey, 479 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: it's great to talk to you again, and thank you. Matt. 480 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: Go Bucks, Go Tom. That's a Matt Damon. The movie 481 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: is called Stillwater opens in theaters July thirtieth. Fox Sports 482 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 483 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com. 484 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: Within the iHeartRadio app, search FSR to listen live. Hey, 485 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: it's me Rob Parker. Check out my weekly MLB podcast, 486 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: Inside the Parker for twenty two minutes of pipe and 487 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: hot baseball talk featuring the biggest name to newsmakers in 488 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: the sport. Whether you believe in analytics or the eyecast, 489 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: We've got all the bases covered. New episodes drop every Thursday, 490 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 1: So do your open favor and listen to Inside the 491 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: Parker with Rob Parker on the iHeartRadio app or wherever 492 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: you get your podcast. Very spur Luga, he is covering 493 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: the Olympics. He was at the event covering for the 494 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: Washington Post and kind enough to join us on short notice. 495 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: What was it like when you saw her walk off, Arry, 496 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: I mean a little staggering. I mean, first of course, 497 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: you think, well, she twisted an ankle, or she's getting 498 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: a knee treated and can't she go on and what's 499 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: her physical state? And and then you know, word kind 500 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: of around that it wasn't in fact an injury, that 501 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: she's making a decision based on mental health. And I 502 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: got to say, Dan, like, you know, this is something 503 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: that's come up in the lead up to these Olympics, 504 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: that's come up at these Olympics. Simone Manuel, a swimmer, 505 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: talked about it at trials. She was a gold medalist 506 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen and didn't even make the team here 507 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,479 Speaker 1: in that event. It is Naomi Osaka's story here. So 508 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: if you put it in the context of these athletes, 509 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, they only are relevant to mainstream American sports 510 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: fans once every four years. You add a fifth year 511 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: onto that. Files is trying to cement her place as 512 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: the unquestioned, you know, all time great in her sport. 513 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: I think you're right. You heard it in her voice. 514 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: There is a toll of all of that. And do 515 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: we have answers to everything yet? And like the individual events, 516 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: like it just feels like there's a there's a great 517 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: mystery still to be solved here. Barry Oh, for sure. 518 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: And she addressed that the all around competition for individuals 519 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: is on Thursday, and of course she she won that 520 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: in Rio. She's done huge, enormous favorite here. Um. But 521 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: she said tonight, she's she's taken it day by day. 522 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: They're going to have a morning off with no practice tomorrow. 523 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: She sounds like a woman who needs a morning off 524 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: with no practice tomorrow. Um, she's going to clear her head. Um. 525 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: And you know this opens up all sorts of stuff 526 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: where you know, what if she competes for the all 527 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: around gold as an individual on on Thursday night, did 528 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: she give up on her team in essentially doing those 529 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: same things on a Tuesday night. Um. It'll be really 530 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: fascinating to see, really interesting to hear what the reactions 531 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: are from other athletes. Um. But I think what we're 532 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: looking at as is a changing athlete, a changing viewpoint 533 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: of what these people endure in you know, being in 534 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: the spotlight and then training and going through the grind 535 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: of it out of the spotlight. They're being much more 536 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: frank about about how that affects them and you start 537 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: to understand the enormity of this that Yes, it's pushed 538 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: an extra year and NBC and Peacock have leaned on 539 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: her and Katie Ladecki to really be there's no Useine Bolt, 540 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: there's no Michael Phelps. That they're leaning on these two 541 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: athletes to carry the next two weeks. And I don't 542 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: know what that pressure would be, like, the enormity. I 543 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: can only imagine that. And you're supposed to win gold, 544 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: you know. Covering the Olympics, the beauty is a seventeen 545 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: year old from Alaska who wins a gold and that's 546 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: the great story of the Olympics. Simone Biles wins gold 547 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: or a few golds, be like, Okay, we expected her 548 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: do and I think you could almost you could hear 549 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: that pressure, and boy, that says a lot about what 550 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: she must be under right now. And that's that's the 551 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: dichotomy of it, right Like the seventeen year old Lydia 552 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: Jacobe from Alaska, like no one. If she had won bronze, 553 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: we wouldn't be talking about her. She would be enormously satisfied, 554 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: her hometown would be thrilled. But it's an extra layer 555 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: because she came out of nowhere. She won that gold, 556 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: and she didn't have to think about the stuff that 557 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: Simone Biles thought about, not just this morning when she 558 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: was getting up to compete, but when she was flying 559 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: over here and a year ago when the games were postponed, 560 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: and when she was evaluating does she want to continue 561 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: and should she just retire? Those are real pressures. And 562 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: people can say like, well, she gets the spoils too, 563 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: she gets the endorsements that she's going to make millions 564 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: of dollars, and that's all true, But I think we 565 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: should be mature enough and developed enough to acknowledge that, 566 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: you know, millions of dollars don't instantly make your head right. 567 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: So it really was an amazing site to see her 568 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: walk off, come back and legitimately root on her teammates, 569 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: but also say, on this day, given my mental state, 570 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: I would have been a hindrance to the US winning 571 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: a medal, not a help. Well, there's collateral damage. I 572 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: mean Michael Phelps talked about this, looked like he had everything, 573 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: and then you realize that he understood that he was 574 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: damaged in some way. And that's the greatest Olympian that 575 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: we've ever seen, that enormity, and he's the one I 576 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: think who was ahead of the curve on this stuff. 577 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: He dealt with it in the middle of his career 578 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: and kind of pulled himself back to get to Rio 579 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: and win. More So, if somebody who has won twenty 580 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: three gold medals more than anybody in history is saying 581 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: you gotta listen to these athletes and telling athletes you 582 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: have to tend to yourselves, I think that's really important 583 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: and I would say too. And this is such this 584 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: is why it's such a layered discussion. It's like you 585 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: have to acknowledge that being a champion athlete takes some 586 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: measure of mental strength. And we can't just say all 587 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: of a sudden, okay, we've the standards are completely different, 588 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: you know, but there what is fighting through that and 589 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: persevering and what is tending to yourself so you don't 590 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: break down? I think that's over the next three years 591 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: to the next Summer Games. That's that's probably the discussion 592 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: that needs to happen, not just around athletes, but but 593 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: with athletes. Verry, thanks for joining us. We appreciate your time. 594 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Dan