WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Set On You 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.480 Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:10.680 the Bengals Booth podcast the I Got My Mind Set 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:15.960 on You audition as we visit with Greg Cosell from 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:20.280 NFL Films in the NFL Matchup Show on ESPN. Greg 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:22.560 is a personal favorite when it comes to watching the 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:25.560 tape and explaining what it all means, and when it 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:28.639 comes to the best quarterback in this year's draft, his 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:33.280 mind is set on Joe Burrow. He'll explain why. Plus 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:38.360 we'll discuss John ross Auden, Tate, AJ Green, and much more, 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:41.640 and getting back to Joe Burrow in honor of his 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:47.839 LSU uniform number nine. Bengals offensive coordinator Brian Callahan answers 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.839 nine questions about the possible number one pick in this 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:56.120 year's draft, which as of this recording is only forty 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:59.960 eight days away. All of that is straight ahead, but first, 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.480 here's a quick reminder that you can add the latest 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:06.760 edition of this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:12.199 or computer by subscribing on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, Spotify, 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:18.120 or pod Bean. It's the greatest thing since find my iPhone. 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:22.520 On a recent UC basketball road trip, I lost my iPhone. 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:26.119 I searched my pockets, my luggage. I searched the team 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:31.200 plane and the team bus. No luck. Then someone reminded 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:33.600 me that if I had an iPad, which I do, 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:37.800 I could use the Find my iPhone app. So I 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:41.200 clicked the button and a map popped up with a 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:45.399 glowing circle that showed exactly where my phone was. It 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.600 also allowed me to remotely lock the phone to prevent 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:51.560 somebody else from using it, and type in a message 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:54.720 to help me recover it. As it turned out, it 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:59.920 was on the team plane, just extremely well hidden. Hopeful 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:02.559 I won't lose my phone again, but if I do, 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:06.720 I know I'll be able to find it. Now, let's 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:10.200 get to Greg coo Sell. During the season, Dave Lapham 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:12.800 and I do two radio shows together each week, the 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:15.760 Bengals Game Plan Show on Wednesdays and the Bengals pep 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:19.359 Rally Show on Fridays, and one of our favorite guests 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.840 is Greg coo Sell. He's worked for NFL Films for 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:26.680 roughly forty years and is a master of watching game 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:30.200 tape and breaking down the intricacies of football in a 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:33.960 way that all of us understand. Last week, I got 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.880 together with Greg at the NFL scouting combine, and I 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:42.120 began our conversation by asking him about Joe Burrow. Is 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:47.560 he the guy the Bengals should select number one overall? Yeah, 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.280 that's an organizational decision, But I like Burrow a lot. 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.840 I think Borrows the best quarterback prospect in this draft. 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.520 My guests has given Inny Dol's age that they're going 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:57.640 to look to the quarterback position. My guess is that 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.880 Zach Taylor would probably like a quarter back that he 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:05.840 that's his guy, and with his background, you know, the 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:09.200 McVay Shanahan type background, I think Joe Burrow fits that 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:13.160 exceptionally well. I think Burrow has pretty much every trait 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.720 you look for except for elite arm strength, but I 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.399 think his arm is strong enough to do what you 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:23.160 need to do in the NFL. Certainly, if you're thinking of, 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.000 let's say, as Sean McVay type offense, Joe Burrow can 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.920 make every throw that Jared Goff can make. And Burrow 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:34.040 plays with kind of an uncommon poise and composure and awareness. 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:36.720 In some ways. In that regard, he kind of reminded 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:39.040 me a little of Tom Brady, just the way, you know, 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:41.400 just a poise with which he plays it seems like 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.360 nothing is too fast for him, nothing is too chaotic 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:49.200 for him. He's very comfortable. He's very accurate, and I 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:52.520 think that's a trait sometimes that gets overlooked because there's 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.000 been so much talk over the last year or so 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:58.280 about quarterbacks that can run around and make plays that 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.600 people lose sight of, just the to make accurate throws 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:05.000 from the pocket, precise ball placement throws. And I think 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:08.800 Joe Burrow is really really good at that. I know 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:12.200 from previous conversations we've had with you. You like quarterbacks 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.520 that have that pocket awareness. Yes, not necessarily going to 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:17.719 take off and run for twenty yards, which he can do, 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.040 by the way, and he certainly did in their biggest 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:21.920 games at the end of the year, but have that 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:24.560 unique ability to move up a little bit left or right, 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.800 step forward, whatever, just to buy a little extra time. Yes, 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.880 and he's very very good at that. And you know, 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:35.039 I think that Burrow can do that really well. He 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.240 can get out of the pocket really well. He can 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.560 play from the pocket really well. You know, because you 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.320 have to remember one thing. We all get enamored with 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:44.560 these guys who can make run around plays, but that's 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:47.719 not how the position is taught. The position is taught 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:51.120 within structure. When you start with OTA's minicamp whatever they 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:52.400 call him these days, I don't I don't know what 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:56.360 the term is anymore, right, right, right, But when you 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.720 start and you start coaching players within your offense, your 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.960 coaching them within the structure of a scheme. You don't 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:05.520 roll the ball out and say, let's run around today 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:07.479 and see if we can make a few plays. You 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:11.000 coach it and teach it within the structure of a scheme. 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.240 And it's whether it's three step drops, five step drops, 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:18.159 deeper drops off play action, and that's how it gets taught. 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.320 And I think that that Joe Burrow can handle all 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:25.120 of that. I think that you know, from the standpoint 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:27.359 of playing with timing, he can play with timing in 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:30.080 quick game. He can be late in the down in 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:33.560 the pocket and still make throws. So to me, as 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:35.800 I said, I think he has every trait that you 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:41.240 look for other than elite arm strength. And there'll be 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:45.279 different conclusions about that based on its relative importance depending 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:47.359 on who the individual is. You know, different people have 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:49.800 different points of view on that. But he certainly does 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:52.880 not have a below average arm does that ever get 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:56.320 better in the NFL, do guys go from having average 0:05:56.360 --> 0:06:00.200 to slightly above average two good? I think so. I 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:03.120 think there have been quarterbacks. I think, to me, Tom 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.919 Brady fit that category. Tom Brady ended up with a 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:07.800 pretty darn good arm. Don't forget he had to throw 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:09.800 balls to cut through the wind in Fox Borrow and 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:12.440 he never had a problem with that. I thought Drew Brees, 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:15.320 I mean until recent years. Obviously he's all he's older, 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.440 but I thought Drew brees arm strength got a little 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:22.400 better as his career progressed. So Joe Burrow is never 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:23.800 going to have a hose. He's never going to be 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.720 Matthew Stafford. But I think you can improve your arm 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:28.839 strength a little bit. And some of that has to 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:32.240 do with just working on your mechanics and repetitive mechanics. 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.480 I'm a big believer in that, and I think coaching 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:37.760 is so critical the quarterback position, you know, I think 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:41.800 repetitive mechanics become really important. So so Burrow's arm could 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:45.240 arguably get a little stronger, but it's certainly not a detriment. 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:47.839 Right now, we're talking to Greg crow Cell from NFL 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:51.560 Films and the NFL matchup show on ESPN. Did the 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:55.479 offense that he ran last year at LSU translate to 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.039 the NFL? Well, it was an NFL offense because it 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:00.760 was Joe Brady who was at the Saints and now 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.560 is in Carolina as their offensive coordinator. So, you know, 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:06.960 I think you saw a lot of concepts. You know, 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:10.520 I even made this point NFL vertical pass game concepts 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:13.280 and LSU offense double post cross or dag or post 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:16.880 in or go h seemed flood eh sale. You know, 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:20.560 a ton of NFL concepts, So Burrow's familiar with those. 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:22.960 They were in a ton of high low concepts against zone, 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.600 which everybody in the NFL runs. It's just it's all 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:27.640 how you get to these concepts. There's not a thousand 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.040 route concepts, Dan, it's how you get to them. And 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.400 you know, the LSU did a really nice job with that. 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:36.360 Joe Burrows familiar with those. Some people say one year 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:40.000 wonder because he made such dramatic improvements statistically, at least 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.280 from his junior year to his senior year. Should that 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.520 be something that concerns people? You know, you could argue 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.800 that it's coaching, which, like I said, I'm a big 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.240 believer in you'd like to believe that NFL quarterbacks do 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:55.520 get coached. That doesn't bother me because he did play 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.160 the year before. He was not a one year stater. 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:01.360 He's a two year stater in the SEC. See the 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:06.000 offense the year prior was different, not as conducive to 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:10.000 putting up numbers as as offense was in twenty nineteen. 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:13.920 But to me, numbers are numbers. When I evaluate a quarterback, 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:16.360 I'm trying to isolate the traits, the attribute to the 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.920 characteristics of the quarterback. Obviously had very good receivers, he 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.800 had a really good back. They had a solid tight 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:26.200 end and Thaddeus Moss, so they had players that gives 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:30.800 you numbers, But that should not influence or impact your 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:34.680 evaluation of the quarterback because you still see the traits now. I, 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.640 in the case of full disclosure, I did not see 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:42.840 Burrow in the year before on tape. I saw other quarterbacks, 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:45.280 but I did not get to him last summer, so 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:50.160 I only have twenty nineteen tape as my foundations. It's 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:51.719 a lot of games. It's a lot of games, a 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:54.160 lot of dropbacks, and I watched almost every game, so 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.640 I saw I don't know how many drop he had 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:58.880 five hundred and forty eight drop backs, So of those 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:01.199 five hundred and forty eight, I probably saw four hundred, 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.080 so I felt that that was a good enough number 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:05.840 to be able to get a sense of what his 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:08.480 traits are. A couple more questions for great co Sell. 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:10.720 You've got some Manila envelopes in front of you from 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.080 the players that you've been studying to this point in 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:16.000 the draft process, and I know you've taken a long 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:19.600 look at the wide receiver. Everything I hear from people 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.559 is this is one of the deepest wide receiver drafts ever. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.160 You can kurk I do. I do. Although to me, 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.600 and again this is all based on film study because 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:29.920 I don't work for a team, so I'm not interviewing players, 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:33.240 and I know that matters in the process. But to me, 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:35.720 as far as the receivers, I would look at Jerry 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:39.080 Judy from Alabama as clearly the number one wide receiver 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:41.880 prospect in this class. So the Bengals have the first 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:43.960 pick in the second round, first pick in the third round, 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:45.599 although I predict they're going to trade down in the 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:47.600 second round to get more picks. You heard it here first, 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:51.280 so you don't think they'll draft at thirty three. I don't, okay, now, 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:53.839 I know they want more picks. They only have one 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.040 pick in every round. Obviously they have a lot of 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:58.079 holes to fill. They're not going to trade out of 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:00.640 number one overall. They want Joe or so. It just 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:05.520 seems to me when the first day ends and all 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.640 these teams see players left on the board that had 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:11.960 mid first round grade, somebody is going to offer a 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.800 nice package for the Bengals to trade down. That's very possible, 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:18.760 and it probably makes sense for them to do that. 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:22.240 It's a deep receiver class. Depending on who the team is, 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:25.000 I mean, and how far they drop from thirty three, 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:28.080 they can still get a quality receiver. I'm no good 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.080 Dan at this. You know, knowing, you know who's gonna 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:33.520 be there. You know that that's not my thing. But 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.480 you can get quality receivers. Now, it comes down to 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:39.760 what you're looking for. Because you know, everybody loves lists. 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:42.360 I'm not a list guy. Because there's I mean, if 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:43.840 you want to take all the six three or six 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:45.920 four receivers and put them in one bucket, that's fine, 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.160 but you can't compare a six three, six four receiver 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:51.960 with kJ Hamler from Penn State. That's a pointless comparison. 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:54.360 You know, kJ Hamler came in at under five nine 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:56.560 and about one hundred and seventy five pounds. You're not 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.280 comparing him to Michael Pittman at six four to twenty three. 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:02.520 So then it comes down to what you're looking for 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.319 in the context of your offense. And you know, is 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:08.439 aj greenback? What's their view of autumn tap? You know, players, 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:10.760 how do they see the players that are presently on 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:15.040 their roster? Is Tyler Boyd? Is he truly a slot guy? 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:16.640 Is that where they want him to be in an 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:19.280 ideal world? You know, these are questions they have to 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:22.200 determine as they go both into free agency and the draft. 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:25.199 I know you thought that John Ross was a good 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:28.160 prospect coming out of Washington. What have you thought of 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:32.440 his play when healthy? I think he's shown flashes. I 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.040 think that the health issue, though, is when you can't 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:37.280 get around, you've got to be able to play. You've 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:40.360 got to be available. And he's not been available because 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:42.360 we don't know how he would have progressed if he'd 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:44.319 been able to play in games. I mean, has he 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:46.839 been in the league three years now? Yes, he missed 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.040 almost his entire rookie year. So how many do you know? 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:51.560 You may not know offhand, but generally how many games 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:54.600 has he played in his second year? He played a 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:59.720 decent number. Has he played in a full total full 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:03.760 sea a number of games yet total, probably, but maybe 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:08.040 about seventeen eighteen games in three years, and probably a 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:10.600 lot of those games he didn't play full games, correct, 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:16.360 So you know, do you this is rhetorical? Do you 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.640 still believe that he has a chance to be a 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:22.080 really good receiver or are you ready to cut bait 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.400 so to speak? You know, I thought that he was 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.680 pretty skilled coming out. We know he can run. I 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.360 thought he showed some route running ability in college. But 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:33.000 he's not on the field, so that's you know, unfortunately, 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.800 that's the problem. Yeah. The sad thing is at the 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:37.840 end of three weeks last year, he then led the 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:40.600 NFL in receiving yards, right, then he got hurt, right, 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.040 and there goes another year, right, you know, And it's interesting. 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.040 I'm very curious and maybe you know the answer to 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:47.280 that they're feeling about autumn tate because I remember autumn 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.679 tape coming out of Florida State. He was a little overweight, 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:53.280 but there was something about him I life, you know, 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.720 So you have to evaluate a receiver for what he years. 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:57.360 You can't watch Autumn tap and go, well, he's not 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.760 a good receiver because he's not fast. Well, yeah, I 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:02.440 know he's not fast. He's six five whatever he weighs now, 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:04.520 but when he came out he was probably two twenty 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:06.880 five maybe, you know, he looked like he slimmed down 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:10.480 a little, just slicking at the tape um. You have 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.440 to evaluate him for what he is, and I think 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:15.920 for what he is, he can be a pretty good player. Now, 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:19.080 is he Julio Jones? No, he's not Julio Jones. But 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:21.840 I think he can be a really solid player. You know, 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.120 whether you want to call him a number two. Everybody 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:27.000 wants to get into these designations of receivers, you know. 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.680 But you know, I think he's an interesting guy going forward. 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:35.480 He's like a really good detached tight end that isn't 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:38.920 asked to block. He uses his body, he gets open, 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.600 he catches everything in his vicinity. He's got a wide 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.280 catching radius. He can go up and snatch it. No, 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:47.760 I think he's you know, you're not You're not playing 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.200 autumn tape to say Hey, let's go vertical, and let's 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:52.440 run deep posts in nine routes and let's go on 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.080 top of corners. That's not why, That's not what he is. 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:57.760 And if you view that as a weakness, then you 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.360 don't understand the player. You know again, and I guess 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:02.400 much comes down to AJ Green. Now, whether he's back 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:06.120 in Cincinnati or not, they will franchise tag him if 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:08.360 they don't sign him to an extension. So yes, he 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:10.120 will be there for at least one more okay, and 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:13.120 ideally he can stay healthy because I always loved AJ Green. 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.040 I know he's fought injuries over the last number of 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:18.760 years and he's not a kid anymore. But at his best, 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.960 you know, he was explosive. I mean, not many guys 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.880 at his height, and he wasn't heavy, but he was 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.160 still two hundred and twelve two hundred and thirteen pounds. 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:31.120 Not many guys that that size could move like AJ Green. 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.400 If you're going to have Joe Burrow starting every game 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:36.360 as a rookie quarterback, would be nice to have AJ 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:38.880 Green as somebody to throw it too. I couldn't agree more. 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.280 I don't think to me, one of the worst things 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:43.520 you want to do well, and obviously you can't fix 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:46.000 every hole because their online is an issue, and you know, 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:47.760 we haven't discussed that, but it probably doesn't need to 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.360 be discussed. It's an issue. But the one thing you 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:54.160 got to be careful of is you get borrow. You 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:57.680 don't want to have a bad, bad online and that's 0:14:57.680 --> 0:14:59.560 maybe another thing they need to address, you know, with 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.400 more pet because often you can get offensive lineman second, third, 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.920 fourth round who can be quality players, but you don't 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.360 want to have a bad online and you don't want 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:11.720 to have no weapons because that's just not a good 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:15.080 way to start a career as a quarterback. I could 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:17.720 do this all day, but I'm not going to force 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.560 you to spend a half hour chatting with me. However, 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:22.960 here is my hope that the Bengals get good again 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:25.960 so that you will be watching them regularly for the 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:28.560 matchup show and we will have you on more during 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.800 the season with Dave Lappaman some of our Bengals radio shows. 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:34.040 All Right, Dan, I appreciate it, Thanks so much. Thanks Greg. 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:39.479 How great is Greg co Sell. In addition to that conversation, 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:42.840 he was kind enough to share his typed out evaluation 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:46.120 sheet of Joe Burrow and allowed me to post it 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:49.560 on social media. It includes all sorts of great nuggets 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:53.800 about burrows strengths and weaknesses, and had the following conclusion. 0:15:54.880 --> 0:16:01.160 Burrow consistently exhibited the needed traits poise, vision, larity, timing, 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:07.560 pocket efficiency, precise ball placement, and second reactionability. Burrow is 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:10.640 a high level prospect with a chance to be an 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:15.760 outstanding NFL quarterback. All right. Time to move on the 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:20.200 Bengals offensive coordinator Brian Callahan and a long conversation he 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:23.600 had with reporters who cover the team on a regular basis. 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:27.800 I've pulled out nine interesting things he had to say 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:32.080 about Joe Burrow in honor of Burrow's uniform number at LSU. 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:34.920 And I should point out that I thought that Callaghan 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:39.160 was extremely candid in discussing Burrow, considering that he's not 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:42.560 a Bengal yet. Coaches in front office execs are often 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:46.280 tight lipped leading up to the draft, but Callaghan was 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:50.640 anything but. So here's topic number one. As Greg Cosell 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:55.400 pointed out, Burrow displays innate feel in the pocket. Is 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:58.480 that something that can be taught or does a quarterback 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.960 either have it or not have it? I think it's 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.520 one of the things about playing quarterback that is an 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:07.600 innate ability. You can you can improve it, you can 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:11.760 get better at it, but you definitely can't inject it 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.880 into somebody. So either they have some feel or they don't. 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.639 And he's Joe's gotta be in spades. He's got a 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.679 great natural feel in the pocket. Um, you know, just 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:25.400 guys that I've been around, some have really great feel, 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:29.879 some have okay feel. And then I thought, you know, 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:31.760 you can get better though. There's things you can do 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.520 to get better. You can improve it, you can drill it, 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:35.960 you can do as much as can. But really, at 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:38.199 the end of the day, it's such a feel based 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:40.280 thing for quarterbacks. And the guys that are the best 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:42.439 at it, when they keep their eyes down feel and 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:45.639 move and slide and find receivers. M those are the 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:48.040 guys that you don't need to look at any go odds. 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:51.119 That's I can't teach that. It's like teaching somebody to 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:54.439 run fast. Like you can improve speed, you can get faster, 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:57.439 but either you're naturally faster you're not, you know what 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:00.720 I mean. And he's got the natural a building in 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:04.400 the pocket. Topic number two in his ten previous seasons 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.639 as an NFL coach, Callahan has worked with two quarterbacks. 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:10.560 So where the number one overall pick in the draft, 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:14.600 Matthew Stafford with the Lions and Peyton Manning after he 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:18.840 went to the Broncos. Does Borrow share any traits with 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:21.959 the number one picks in ninety eight and two thousand 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:25.360 and nine. They don't put themselves in that position without 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:30.600 being kind of wired the right way. Their preparation habits 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:35.560 just Payton and Stafford to pay notoriously the best, one 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:38.520 of the best ever when it comes to preparing and 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:42.240 Stafford quietly, he's probably right there up with them. They're 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:46.160 two really really impressive workers. And then they're talented on top. 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:48.320 So you put their talent on top of what they 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:50.600 do with the work in the mental part of it, 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.359 and then you get that you get number one overall type. 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:55.720 That's kind of what you hear about this kid. That's 0:18:55.920 --> 0:19:00.320 that's everything that I've heard that's been out there. So, yeah, 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.320 it'll be fun. Unfortunate, it'll be if that's the way 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:04.640 it goes, and I get to go for a third 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:07.879 number one overall pick a quarterback and it's great. Usually 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:11.400 usually means good things. A topic number three. Last year, 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.720 the Bengals finished thirty if in scoring and twenty sixth 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:18.600 then yards gained. The quarterback is one of eleven guys 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.880 on offense. How much of a difference can he make? 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:23.600 But a bit? I mean, I would say that we 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:26.359 need improved play account across the board. On offense. You 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:30.520 certainly weren't good enough for long stretches of the season, 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.520 but they can help the production and they raise the level. 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:38.119 So you know, let's say you're in a one possession game. Well, 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.120 the difference between a one possession game sometimes is what 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.080 was your success right on third down? If you're in 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:47.679 the thirty thirty five percent, that's very average, And all 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:49.240 of a sudden, you get a guy that can run 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:52.120 for three first downs or two first downs in the game, 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:53.480 and now you're up in the fifty percent, and I 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:55.560 have extended your drives, and now I've extended good chances 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:58.840 to fourth points. So I think that if you're if 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:01.640 everything's being execu at a better level, at a higher level, 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:03.800 you got a much better chance to score points and 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:06.679 win games. I think. So it certainly wouldn't fall on 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:08.520 one guy. We need to get better in a lot 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:11.480 of places. Guys had to play better, from top to 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:14.760 from receivers to backs. It's offensive line, The whole thing 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:17.399 has to get better. So but when you got a 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:19.640 guy that can that can distribute the ball and play 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:22.919 really at a at that type of level, you certainly 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:26.720 expect to be better on offensive topic Number four. As 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:30.639 a junior in twenty eighteen at LSU, Burrow completed fifty 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:35.240 eight percent of his passes and through sixteen touchdowns. As 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:38.800 a senior, he completed a ridiculous seventy six percent of 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:43.879 his passes and through an even more ridiculous sixty touchdown passes. 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:49.080 He went from sixteen to sixty. It's been well documented 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:52.720 that assistant coach Joe Brady brought concepts from the Saints 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:56.639 offense to LSU last year, So how exactly did that 0:20:56.840 --> 0:21:01.679 enable Burrow's performance to skyrocket installed the very pro style 0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:04.280 mentality as far as getting guys in space and matching 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:07.160