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Speaker 1: the show. Tuesday, Tuesday one goes live from one goes

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Speaker 1: drive right next door to the new era of field

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Speaker 1: where there's a brand new carpet down and we're getting

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Speaker 1: set for football. You know, if there's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: football game played in that place? Uh what three weeks

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Speaker 1: from Thursday? Right, three weeks and two days away. August

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Speaker 1: eight goes in the Indianapolis Colts preseason football coming three

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Speaker 1: weeks away, right on that turf. Hello, everybody, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show. I'm John Murphy. This is Team Tasker. We're

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Speaker 1: here with you until three o'clock. Happy to have you

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Speaker 1: with us here is uh you're whether you're joining us

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Speaker 1: on the video side and you just saw that beautiful

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Speaker 1: picture of the inside of the stadium on MSG or

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Speaker 1: maybe you're tuned in on the radio on our flag

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Speaker 1: Either way, happy to have you on this beautiful summer

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Speaker 1: day in Western New York. It really is summertime. Feels

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Speaker 1: like summertime, and you and I are still, even though

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Speaker 1: I gotta. I can't say it with a straight phase

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Speaker 1: seven one sixth day. Why can't you say that? I

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Speaker 1: just can't. Seven ones it's you know, July sixteenth, seven

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Speaker 1: one seven one sixth day? Yeah, there you go. I

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Speaker 1: gotta so that came up. We have a Morty meeting

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Speaker 1: content meaning nine forty five every day. Steve makes it

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Speaker 1: half the time. And I'm just kidding. But somebody, somebody

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Speaker 1: had the presence of mind to say, yeah, seven one

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Speaker 1: and somebody said, yeah, I think this is the third

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Speaker 1: or fourth seven one sixth day, And I thought, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's been July sixteenth going on for a long time,

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Speaker 1: while this is like the million seven one six days.

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Speaker 1: All right, I thought, I don't mind if we claim it,

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Speaker 1: does it mean? Seven one six? Well, you know how

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Speaker 1: it is? Seven one six is the area code? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know that's why. What is seven one six six?

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Speaker 1: July sixteenth seven one six? I get two things? Seven

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Speaker 1: one six belong to us now? And what is it

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Speaker 1: a celebration we're supposed to. Okay, I got it. It's

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Speaker 1: civic pride, Murph community thing against that. Here'd be a

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Speaker 1: team player, man jump on the seven one seam or not? One?

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Speaker 1: Six straight five? What does it mean? Pat yourself on

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Speaker 1: the back. You're living in Buffalo? What do you say,

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Speaker 1: just celebrate our town? Did Jay just say let's move on? No?

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Speaker 1: to our producer. It is. It is a good thing.

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Speaker 1: It is a good thing. Seven one six days off.

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Speaker 1: I do like I do like it on the back.

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Speaker 1: You're living, you celebrate it. It's kind of neat because

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Speaker 1: not everybody gets a a day like that. Well, see

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Speaker 1: they don't have that in Rochester. There's no such things.

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Speaker 1: And I'll really listen, I'll really sell them rate when

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Speaker 1: we get it off right? You think in New Yors

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Speaker 1: fourth or fifth annual seven one sixth day. All those

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Speaker 1: Happy to talk about seven one sixth day. No, but

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Speaker 1: we're eating up this summer because it's coming to an

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Speaker 1: Eight shows a training camp that's all right, that'll be

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Speaker 1: You know what the thing is too. For those of

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Speaker 1: But that's not considered public, particularly given my yard that's in.

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Speaker 1: this year there is only eight shows from Rochester. That's right.

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Speaker 1: Last year I think the number was really only like twelve,

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's training camp in Rochester. Gonna go quick

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Speaker 1: good show here today. We got a couple of things,

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Speaker 1: the interview yesterday. George Wilson was here talking to members

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Speaker 1: great guy, What a great spokesman. What a fine example

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Speaker 1: coffee here with the Buffalo Bills now with the NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: Got a lot of good observations about the Bills, including

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Speaker 1: linebacker Jemaine Edmonds. He'll be joining us today at two

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Speaker 1: fifteen training camp. You were with Brian Baldinger right one

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Speaker 1: great guy. I've just looked it up. Eight nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 1: throw the ball and prevent the other guy from throwing

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Speaker 1: the ball. And if you can create pressure wherever it

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Speaker 1: comes from outside inside blitzing, if you have to scheme wise,

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Speaker 1: you know a kind of a manufacturing pressure. If you

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Speaker 1: can create pressure, you can disrupt your opponents passing game.

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Speaker 1: To me, that would be number two. But let's hear

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Speaker 1: from you eight three five fifty toll free one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight by fifty two five fifty. You go to

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Speaker 1: spot track, you know spot track right. Our buddy Mike

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Speaker 1: Janetti Orchard Park, who does all kinds of NFL salary analysis.

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Speaker 1: When he does average salary for position groups, the number

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Speaker 1: one average salary is what do you think, Steve guess?

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Speaker 1: Number one position group? Number one position for average salary,

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Speaker 1: you would say quarterbacks. I would have said quarterback. You

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Speaker 1: know what it is? Left tackle eight million dollars average.

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Speaker 1: Now the average is out of whack a little bit

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Speaker 1: because of some recent contracts. Taylor Luan with a contract,

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Speaker 1: some of the others, Nate Solder with the Giants, you know,

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, an average salary of fifteen million.

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Speaker 1: It's out of whack. But left tackle average over the

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Speaker 1: league is about eight million. So that is I think

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Speaker 1: a little bit deceptive. I don't you know. Some people

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Speaker 1: are gonna say offensive line is where you go with

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Speaker 1: you know your next most important I would say quarterback

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Speaker 1: obviously is a clear number one, but left tackle averages

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Speaker 1: eight point three million throughout the league, which is pretty amazing.

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Speaker 1: Right tackle, by the way, average is three point six million.

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Speaker 1: Those are two in the highest. We talked about running backs.

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Speaker 1: The average salary for running backs in the league one

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Speaker 1: point three million, according to spot Track. Receivers is high.

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Speaker 1: The average wide receiver contract in the NFL one point

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Speaker 1: nine million, tight end one point five million, offensive line

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Speaker 1: in general two point four million. But we said the tackles,

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Speaker 1: with the left tackles leading the way, guards the average

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Speaker 1: two point one million. I think you'll hear people say,

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Speaker 1: and they've said out on this show, guards are becoming

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Speaker 1: just as important in a pass rush standpoint as tackles

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Speaker 1: are these days. I agree. And that's and really it's

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Speaker 1: because teams are starting to get interior pressure and you've

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Speaker 1: you've started to be so diversified in your running game

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Speaker 1: as you're gonna have guards who have to get to

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Speaker 1: the second level or pull and get outside. So they

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Speaker 1: got to be not only they got to be these

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Speaker 1: physically gifted, genetically different guys, they got to be enormous guys.

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Speaker 1: They've got to be fast enough and athletic enough to

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Speaker 1: get out and run and get out and get their

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Speaker 1: hat on somebody. So they've got to be really good

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Speaker 1: coordinated athletes and big strong, huge guys that big, that

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Speaker 1: are that coordinated. They're hard to find. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: don't exist. It's like one percent of one percent of

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Speaker 1: the population. You got to find them, and so that

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Speaker 1: you know, they're hard to replace. They're hard to find.

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Speaker 1: That's why some teams get stuck with bad offensive lines.

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Speaker 1: They're just aren't enough of them to go around defense.

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Speaker 1: Who's making them money on defense? According to spot Track,

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Speaker 1: defensive ends average salary in the NFL two point six million.

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Speaker 1: Defensive tackles one point nine million, not that much difference,

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Speaker 1: but significant. Outside linebacker two point four million, Inside linebacker

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Speaker 1: just about two point five million. That's significant edge rush

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Speaker 1: guy two point five million. Cornerbacks two point one million.

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Speaker 1: Safety one of free safety. And again these are out

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Speaker 1: of whack because of certain contracts, but let's do safeties

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Speaker 1: in general one point seven million. Yeah, the numbers, the

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Speaker 1: spot Track numbers are obviously impacted by recent contract extensions

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Speaker 1: for the most part, right, but we're asking you to

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Speaker 1: make a determination because we know what happens. Teams have

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Speaker 1: a guy who hits agency. Oh we need this guy.

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Speaker 1: Gonna have to pay them, and that's why those averages

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Speaker 1: are what they are. But you can make a determination

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Speaker 1: in your mind, with a clean slate, without any veterans

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Speaker 1: to worry about, without any resignings to worry about. What

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Speaker 1: would you do? Where would you put your money? What's

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Speaker 1: the after quarterback? What's the most important position group in

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Speaker 1: the NFL? You can vote on Twitter. You can give

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Speaker 1: us a call eight oh three five fifty toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Already

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Speaker 1: have about two hundred and thirty votes in on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: and forty two percent say pass rusher, which is where

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Speaker 1: I would go, Thirty five percent say offensive tackle, which

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Speaker 1: is not where I would go, eighteen percent cornerback, which

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Speaker 1: I would make very important, much more important than offensive tackles,

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Speaker 1: five percent of something else in mind. Give us a

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Speaker 1: eight eight by fifty two five fifty. Get to the

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Speaker 1: tweets in a moment. Let's take a call from Rich

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Speaker 1: in Orchard Park. Hello, Rich, go ahead, you're on the air. Hello.

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Speaker 1: I agree with the importance of pass rush. However, I

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Speaker 1: believe that you can generate affective pass rushed by a

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Speaker 1: schematics and personnel fits similar with how I feel about

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Speaker 1: the secondary in general. Of course, it helps to have

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Speaker 1: elade players in those pools. However, if I was playing

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Speaker 1: GM and I had to point a specific position, I

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Speaker 1: would say either middle linebacker on defense or the center

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Speaker 1: on your offensive line. Um. Those players are often making

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Speaker 1: adjustments at the line. The middle linebacker is getting the call,

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Speaker 1: typically from the from the from the coaches. I'm sorry, yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh men. The centers are often you know, just using

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Speaker 1: their own experience to dictate um, you know, sliding protections

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Speaker 1: and whatnot. Here's here's the thing about middle linebacker, and

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Speaker 1: I want to hear your thoughts on this. We don't

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Speaker 1: have it here, but in many NFL, on many NFL teams,

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Speaker 1: the middle linebacker is a two down player. You got

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Speaker 1: Tremaine playing three downs here, but that's he's kind of

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Speaker 1: an unusual cat because he plays three downs. I mean,

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Speaker 1: off the top of my head, I would say maybe

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Speaker 1: less than half. Am I crazy, less than half middle

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Speaker 1: linebackers in the NFL are probably uh situation down players.

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Speaker 1: They become a situational player. And I don't know how

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Speaker 1: and I get it too. You're right. One of the

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Speaker 1: part of the reason that's pro football and it is

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Speaker 1: so it gets so sophisticated, is because you have guys

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Speaker 1: yell and communicate the concepts that the defense or the

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Speaker 1: offense are trying to run. Most particularly as you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: the center on offense and the middle linebacker on defense,

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Speaker 1: and also the middle linebacker and the safeties who have

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Speaker 1: to be in concert with one another. That is an

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Speaker 1: important aspect of that job that those guys do, although

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Speaker 1: any other aspects of it. How important can the guy

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Speaker 1: be when you're sitting when he's standing next to the

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator on the sideline on third and long or

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Speaker 1: third and short or third medium on a passing down.

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Speaker 1: So you're right, those guys are hard. And let's face it,

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Speaker 1: you can go out and say, you know, anecdotally, you

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Speaker 1: can pick one guy out of every position group who

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Speaker 1: has made himself in his career, like an Ed Reid

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Speaker 1: or Eric Weddle, just like a Ray Lewis or an

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, one of these guys that are singular players indispense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're indispensable to their teams and they can play whatever

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Speaker 1: position they are. I think, you know, you know, examples

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Speaker 1: of that are everywhere, one guy making being doing his

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Speaker 1: job better than any land or differently than anyone else

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Speaker 1: has ever done. We're talking in general, speaking around the

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Speaker 1: National Football League, and I think it's a hard argument

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Speaker 1: to make for middle linebacker being that important. Certainly, in

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Speaker 1: some schemes he has to be or can be, but

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Speaker 1: generally speaking, I don't know if you can make that

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Speaker 1: that statement. It's a good point, though. We'll talk more

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Speaker 1: about it after quarterback. What's the most important, most valuable

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Speaker 1: position on an NFL roster in general? And yes, the

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Speaker 1: Steep pointed out, you know, teams get these players, get

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Speaker 1: these individuals who are so good and so exceptional that

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Speaker 1: they have to play with them and pay them. What

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Speaker 1: do you think, after quarterback? What position is the most

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Speaker 1: valuable in the NFL? Give us a call to discuss

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Speaker 1: eight oh three five fifty or toll free one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Will read some tweets.

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Speaker 1: We'll go to the tweet sheet and we returned. We're

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Speaker 1: just getting kicked off here. Thanks for joining us. John

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Speaker 1: Murphy was deep Tasker one Bills live from One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio for some reason. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: a couple of different conversations going on. Yeah, there's high

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Speaker 1: energy in the other room today in our control room,

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Speaker 1: and I like it. Let's see we can keep that going.

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Speaker 1: We should get Bill too. Here's the thing about running backs.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna win the argument that they're not easily replaced.

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Speaker 1: Am I right? Well, you know again, in general, we

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Speaker 1: need Thurman to wait. In general, I'm begging for Thurman

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Speaker 1: because he went. Thurman is a great example. So is

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Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy and Frank Gore could make this game. He's

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Speaker 1: a fourteen year guy. And but Leshaun McCoy is a

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Speaker 1: different cat than Zeke Elliott. Yeah, I mean, Leshaun McCoy

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Speaker 1: can catch it. He's great in space, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of his touches are in space because that's the way

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Speaker 1: that offense is designed. To get him some room to run,

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Speaker 1: get him out of the backfield, and then throw it

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Speaker 1: to him. Zeke Elliott, you got to walk back there

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Speaker 1: and give it to him, and then he's got to

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Speaker 1: find his way around the violence. It's gonna find him.

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Speaker 1: He's getting beat up. Same thing and We had this

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Speaker 1: thing about Levion Bell was with the Pittsburgh Steelers and

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Speaker 1: in a word, the offensive line when he was with

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Speaker 1: the Steelers and still is it was. It is dominant.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers offensive line is dominant. The Jets and maybe

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Speaker 1: not so much. And there was also a year, a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago when Levion Bell had like ninety

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Speaker 1: catches with the Steelers. Ben roethlis is just in. Ben

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger can sling it. He is a really good throwing

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Speaker 1: quarterback and always has been. That's been. He burst onto

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Speaker 1: the scene when he got a chance to start due

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Speaker 1: to injury, and all of a sudden, you know, this

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Speaker 1: team is tough for an entire fourteen sixteen year career,

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, whatever it's been. Now, Levion Bell's gonna go

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Speaker 1: with an offensive line that's not dumb. Maybe it's good.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the Jet line is gonna be good, but it's

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Speaker 1: not gonna be dominant like the Steelers line. You think

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Speaker 1: Sam Darn, You and I both like Sam Darn. He's

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Speaker 1: a good quarterback and he's gonna have a long Seemingly

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Speaker 1: he's got a good future in the NFL, right, maybe

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Speaker 1: even a star. He's not Ben Roethlisberger. Yet he doesn't

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Speaker 1: and he's not gonna be Ben Roethlisberger, even when he

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Speaker 1: becomes his best, he's gonna be different. So Levion Bell

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Speaker 1: is gonna be plunked into the middle of this offense

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Speaker 1: with a different kind of quarterback and a completely different

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Speaker 1: offensive line, and he's gonna have to earn what thirty

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Speaker 1: million guaranteed over the next whatever whatever. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he can get it done right, how do you

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Speaker 1: earn that now? And Steve, let's be honest, people are

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Speaker 1: making that argument about Lashawn McCoy, who's again comes from

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Speaker 1: a different background of these guys. He has demonstrated, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he is among you know, the top running backs of

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Speaker 1: all time yardage production wise, But they make the same argument.

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Speaker 1: You know, what is the eight point five million, nine

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Speaker 1: million this year for the Bills eight million? He is

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Speaker 1: the fifth sixth highest office paid running back in his

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Speaker 1: cap number. So as the argument would be, well, hot, Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: how do you justify that, you know, based on his

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Speaker 1: you and I anticipate he will bounce back strong this year,

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Speaker 1: and I do believe he has a lot some more

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Speaker 1: to offer the bills this year. But that's a lot

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Speaker 1: of money. It's a big chunky's scap for one guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a big percentage year salarycap. It's

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Speaker 1: a big number eight million bucks. It's just barely it's

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Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars over eight eight billion. Ten thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: is his cap numbers average year. And here's the reason

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Speaker 1: why I tend to project. And all of us are

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Speaker 1: trying to tell the future, and we none of us

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Speaker 1: have a shot of doing it accurately. But here's what

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Speaker 1: I project. Leshaun McCoy is a guy, like I said,

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Speaker 1: gets the ball in some space. You'll see him get

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Speaker 1: tackled and run out of bounds. He has the great

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Speaker 1: ability to avoid big hits. Is Zeke Elliott, on the

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Speaker 1: other hands, as a reverse, seems to seek contact. He's

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Speaker 1: like an Earl Campbell type of back, a guy who

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Speaker 1: beats it up. He's a battering ram. The physicality comes

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Speaker 1: to Zeke Elliott, Leshaun McCoy, the violence has a hard

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Speaker 1: time finding him. And that's why he's been able to

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Speaker 1: last for double digit years in the league. That's why

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Speaker 1: he's got eleven thousand rushing yards and even more all

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Speaker 1: purpose yards. So you tend to think, Okay, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: have a little bit longer at the end of his career. Plus,

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Speaker 1: we all know the precipitous drop off of the ability

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Speaker 1: to the offensive line to protect Josh Allen to running

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Speaker 1: the running game. When Leshaun McCoy gets the ball, he's

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Speaker 1: already avoiding somebody before he takes a step. There was

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Speaker 1: a lot of problems up front last year. Now Leshan

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Speaker 1: McCoy is a little bit of a victim of it,

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Speaker 1: and you've got to take that into account when you're

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Speaker 1: evaluating his individual performance and the people around him. That's

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Speaker 1: why we're talking about Levon Bell in New York. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be different than Pittsburgh. It's all trying to tell

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Speaker 1: the future. But man, oh man, we've all seen enough

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Speaker 1: football to understand it looks like that, Like it's all

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Speaker 1: gonna happen that way. Hey, So what do you think

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Speaker 1: as you build your roster, your ideal roster after quarterback?

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Speaker 1: What position? What position group? I guess is the most

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Speaker 1: important on the field, the most valuable in the NFL?

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Speaker 1: Give us a call eight three fifty toll free one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight, five fifty two, five fifty Antonio in Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: we'll hear from you. Go ahead, and Antonio, you're on

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Speaker 1: the air. Hello, jime right, I believe that the well,

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Speaker 1: the first, it's the first. Um, give me, I'm nervous.

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Speaker 1: Don't be nervous. Yeah, go ahead, man, you're all right? Okay, Well, um,

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Speaker 1: it'sh gonna be the quarterback that should be getting first.

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Speaker 1: The first thing should be gotten is the offensive mind.

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Speaker 1: If you have a good offensive mind and you have

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Speaker 1: a subpar quarterback, I believe that you can go to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. I believe that's what the Hsburg was doing

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Speaker 1: back in the day. When the Bills were going to

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowls. They didn't have an a legitimate quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but they had a good offensive line, a good defense,

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Speaker 1: and a good running back. You're you're saying, what when

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Speaker 1: the Bills went to the super Bowl, they didn't they

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Speaker 1: had what the Steelers? He said, Oh, the Steelers. So

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Speaker 1: you're saying offensive line is more valuable than the quarterback, Antonio,

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Speaker 1: I believe they run the round. Nick and Nick m Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I see. I mean you're telling me the

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Speaker 1: great dominant offensive line is harder to find than an

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Speaker 1: elite quarterback. I don't know, because it's more for it's five,

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Speaker 1: it's five guys that you have to look for. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get it. I get it, and I understand, and

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Speaker 1: it's a it's an interesting point. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: I buy it completely. Certainly, you can make it have

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Speaker 1: a mediocre quarterback or a fair to midland quarterback, or

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Speaker 1: maybe an above average quarterback behind a dominant offensive line.

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Speaker 1: I like the Dallas Cowboys did three years ago with

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Speaker 1: his Zeke Elliott, a rookie running back, and Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. They went twelve and four behind an

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Speaker 1: offensive line that was one of the all time greats.

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Speaker 1: So I get so that's kind of plays into your point.

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Speaker 1: I think Antonio and and maybe you can make that argument.

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Speaker 1: But but you know, if you're gonna take yeah, five guys, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there probably are more important than than a corner or

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Speaker 1: an edge rusher, But that's five guys that you're trying

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Speaker 1: to replace. I don't know if that's if it's that

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Speaker 1: easy to do so for the purposes of the poll,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to if you want

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Speaker 1: to say offensive line, that's half your offense. That's five

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Speaker 1: of the eleven guys. So yeah, I can. I can

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Speaker 1: listen to it. But I listened and I didn't like. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, thank you for calling, though, Antonio.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the tweet sheets if you

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Speaker 1: got some tweets. The tweet sheet brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: What a kind of starts from Tiffany, she is Having

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Speaker 1: an elite corner who can shut down a whole side

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Speaker 1: of the field is priceless. When a wide receiver cannot

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Speaker 1: get open, it forces the quarterback to whole lawn to

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Speaker 1: the ball and gives the pass rush the advantage. These

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Speaker 1: guys are hard to find. I feel Trey White is

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Speaker 1: on the cusp of becoming an elite corner. That from

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Speaker 1: town and that's that's usual. Tiffany is. She's got a

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Speaker 1: whole reason well thought. Don't I agree with you about

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Speaker 1: Trey White on the cusp of becoming an elite corner.

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Speaker 1: You know who's elite right now? And former Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: Stefan Gilmore. He means so much to the Patriots defense.

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Speaker 1: And there are not a lot of stars on New

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Speaker 1: England's defense. He is the predominant star and I think

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Speaker 1: the most important player on that defense because he does

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Speaker 1: exactly what Tiffany says he does, shuts down the whole

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Speaker 1: side of the field. I think Gilmore is really good.

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Speaker 1: I know it's a bitter pill to swallow. Look, the

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Speaker 1: Bills wanted to pay less at corner That's why he

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Speaker 1: got away. Stefan wanted to go somewhere and play championship football.

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Speaker 1: That's why he went away. But I think he's really good,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's maybe the best example of what

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Speaker 1: a cornerback, an elite level cornerback can mean to a defense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and the current NFL he's one of him, no question

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Speaker 1: about it. He does what the Patriots need him to do.

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Speaker 1: And the thought is, and it's obvious, I'll say it anyway,

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Speaker 1: the thought is, yeah, and edge rusher is great. You

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Speaker 1: get in the quarterback and the quarterback can't throw it

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Speaker 1: or whatever. He has to throw it quick and the

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Speaker 1: simply put in the NFL today, offenses are built to

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Speaker 1: have options for the quarterback right away so he can

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Speaker 1: throw it fast before the even the best elite edge

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Speaker 1: rusher or interior rusher can get there unless somebody completely

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Speaker 1: blows it. Certainly that happens once in a while, but

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Speaker 1: as a general rule, the ball comes out very quickly

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, So it's becoming less and less probable

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Speaker 1: or even conceivable that you can get a sack as

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Speaker 1: quick as the ball is supposed to come out. Certainly

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Speaker 1: you can knock it down or bat it down, which

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Speaker 1: is you know, the rush should get credit for as well.

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Speaker 1: But the simple fact of the matter is this, there's

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Speaker 1: really no not too many teams back in the old day.

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Speaker 1: As you take a seven step drop, you're dropping seven

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Speaker 1: or eight yards deep. Quarterback then hits his back foot,

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Speaker 1: takes one hitch step up, and the balls out of there.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't happened very much anymore. It's a three step

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Speaker 1: or a five step drop or a shotgun snap and

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Speaker 1: the ball is out before the rush can get there,

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Speaker 1: which means this, you need somebody on the outside that's

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Speaker 1: on those receivers. When the quarterback wants to throw it,

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Speaker 1: there's just no place to go, So then he has

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Speaker 1: to come over read the defense and start finding other

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Speaker 1: options in the offense or in the secondary. And if

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Speaker 1: you've got coverage all over the field, then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, the pass rush can get there, and particularly today,

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Speaker 1: when the quarterbacks are protected and they can run around everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger went to two Super Bowls and one one

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Speaker 1: by pushing, like just throwing the pressure off of himself

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Speaker 1: and making plays off the page. So that kind of

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Speaker 1: negates the pass rush's ability to affect a game the

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Speaker 1: way it does for a normal quarterback or any of

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Speaker 1: these quarterbacks that don't have that do have escapability, which

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Speaker 1: a lot of them do these days. So I'm a

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Speaker 1: big proponent of having an edge guy, an outside corner

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Speaker 1: who can shut down receivers. If you've got a bunch

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Speaker 1: of them who can really cover guys up, hey, your

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Speaker 1: pass rush, you're gonna have an easy day because the

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Speaker 1: quarterback can't find anybody to throw too. That's I think

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Speaker 1: that you know, I've talked in circles about it about

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Speaker 1: twenty times, and that's where I keep coming back to

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Speaker 1: the day. I think at this point the coverage is

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Speaker 1: better to have corners an important look. I would put

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Speaker 1: pass rusher as my second most important, but cornerback is

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Speaker 1: right there next to him, just barely in second place.

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Speaker 1: One more from the tweet sheet from Josh. We asked

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Speaker 1: the question, after quarterback, what's the most valuable position in

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Speaker 1: the NFL? Cornerback, pass rusher, offensive tackle. Josh responds, all

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Speaker 1: three are extremely valuable to a team. But I feel

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Speaker 1: it is imperative to be exceptional tot offensive tackle with

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Speaker 1: the young quarterback. When it comes to development, it helps.

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Speaker 1: Is it imperative debatable? I think, and yeah, you want

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Speaker 1: to be good at offensive tackle, but I think you

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Speaker 1: can get I think guards are important too, And there's

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Speaker 1: a couple of people on the phone and pointed out

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Speaker 1: centers are important too. Now the off line play has

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Speaker 1: changed in the old days, when you needed a great

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Speaker 1: left tackle, I don't know that that. You know you

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Speaker 1: need a good right tackle too, you need a good

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Speaker 1: offensive line. I don't know if it's imperative to be

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Speaker 1: exceptional offensive tackle, though I might. And Josh is making

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Speaker 1: a point too, And I think, and I guess the

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Speaker 1: people who listen to us are doing this. We're kind

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Speaker 1: of taking this as a general football question. He's putting

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Speaker 1: pointing it straight towards the Buffalo Bill. Certainly, with a

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Speaker 1: young quarterback, you want to protect him. That's what the

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Speaker 1: Bills have spent all this offseason doing is getting offensive

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Speaker 1: linean together, drafting him, signed him in free agencies, signing

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Speaker 1: new guys, and kind of washing through the entire offensive

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Speaker 1: line because they have a young quarterback who needs a

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Speaker 1: better running game and it needs more pass protection. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: in the Buffalo Bills frame of mind, that's one of

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Speaker 1: the things they had to get fixed. But they already

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Speaker 1: had Tredavious White, they already got Jerry Hughes, they already

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Speaker 1: got those other pieces that we've been talking about. They've

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Speaker 1: got not Court Eagle, They've got Dion Dawkins. They've got,

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Speaker 1: you know, guys like the guys we're talking about, these

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Speaker 1: positional players in place the one they didn't have this big,

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Speaker 1: huge offensive line for a young quarterback. But he talked

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Speaker 1: generally speaking, not all these teams have young quarterbacks that

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Speaker 1: are trying to develop. Some of them've got Philip Rivers,

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger, Tom Brady, Andy Dalton. You can

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Speaker 1: go down the list and as good, whether you think

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Speaker 1: they're good or bad, at least they're established. Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 1: you know, Joe Flacco. They've got these guys that are established,

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Speaker 1: they're not trying to develop. Them. They're trying to make

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Speaker 1: build a team around them, and I think most of

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Speaker 1: these teams will go They'll think, Okay, if we have

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Speaker 1: an average offensive line with an above average quarterback or

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Speaker 1: an elite quarterback, and we've got these other pieces in place,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna win more games than if we start just

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Speaker 1: loading up on the offensive side of the ball and

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Speaker 1: turn into the Kansas City Chiefs that can't stop anybody.

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Speaker 1: Our discussion today after quarterback, which position is most valuable

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Speaker 1: in the NFL? Give us a call. We'll get back

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Speaker 1: to this in a moment. Eight three fifty and toll

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Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Send it a tweet. We might read it on the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet. We are about nine days away from start

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Speaker 1: doing that? Welcome back to the show. It is John Murphy,

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Speaker 1: Steve tasker One Bill's Live from One Bills Drive. Got

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Speaker 1: a couple of good guests coming up. George Wilson, the Senator,

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite players all time, was here yesterday.

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Speaker 1: We sat down with them yesterday. We worked a little

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Speaker 1: ot yesterday. We'll make up for it and did a

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Speaker 1: last interview with George Wilson. He's coming up at the

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Speaker 1: one o'clock hour, two o'clock hour. Brian baldingger another former

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill, now a predominant prominent member of the NFL

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Speaker 1: network staff, does a ton of film breakdown stuff, has

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Speaker 1: a lot to say about the Bills, including a tremainon Edmonds.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk with him. Our topic after quarterback? What's position

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Speaker 1: is the most valuable? We got onto this looking at

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Speaker 1: the contract issues with Melvin Gordon and a couple of others.

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Speaker 1: So what is the most valuable position on the roster?

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Speaker 1: What do you think? Call here from Chad in South Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Hello Chad, go ahead, Hey guys. First off, just trying

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Speaker 1: to say love to show a big fan of both

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Speaker 1: to use. I think back to when the Bills drafted

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Speaker 1: Mike Williams and that was supposed to lock up our

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Speaker 1: offense and protect troop so and obviously that went horribly awry.

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Speaker 1: But I think center is the most important position because

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Speaker 1: if you have a center, for example, like Eric Wood,

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Speaker 1: he almost held that whole offensive line together. Not only that,

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Speaker 1: but I think it adds a certain comfortability for the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You know, not to mention just munich aiding with everybody

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Speaker 1: ad the offensive vine as I given the quarterback to comfortability,

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Speaker 1: you know, to not worry about protection as much and

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Speaker 1: worry about assigning split the receivers. Good point. Here's why

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good point. I want to get

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Speaker 1: Steven on this too. If you get the right center,

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Speaker 1: and the Bill has had it with Ken Hull, had

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Speaker 1: it with Eric Wood, maybe they have it here now

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Speaker 1: with Mitch Morris. If you get the right center, you

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Speaker 1: can put a lot on his shoulders. Mentally, he can

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Speaker 1: be a tremendous asset for your quarterback, which is what

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Speaker 1: you were talking about, chat. If you get a mediocre center,

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Speaker 1: maybe not so much. So is it the most important

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Speaker 1: next or quarterback? I don't know about that, but it's important, Steve.

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Speaker 1: It's important because of the close proximity they have physically

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Speaker 1: and mentally with the quarterback. It's important because they need

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Speaker 1: to have a full understanding of what you're trying to

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Speaker 1: do offensively, maybe more than anybody except the quarterback on offense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and there's no question that you know, we've seen and

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Speaker 1: we made this point earlier that you know, we've seen

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Speaker 1: individuals in different spots all over the field and maybe

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Speaker 1: at every position. You know, I don't want to go

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Speaker 1: through the whole of history of the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: but there's been a guy who's played any position in

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Speaker 1: the league who has been indispensable to his team. Certainly,

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Speaker 1: Ken holds a great example of how unbelievable, how much

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Speaker 1: an unbelievable center can help an offense in its totality.

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Speaker 1: For one thing, a guy like Ken Hole could make

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Speaker 1: sure it ain't whatever happens. Ain't nobody running free unless

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Speaker 1: we've got six blocking and they're send seven, or we've

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Speaker 1: got five and they send six. Nobody's running free unless

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Speaker 1: they send one extra guy. We're always going to have

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Speaker 1: a hat on a hat. Yeah, you know, I just

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Speaker 1: Monday Night football in Kansas City a couple of times. Guys,

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Speaker 1: you're running free the right You don't. You don't. That

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Speaker 1: didn't happen, right, It just you get the right guy,

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Speaker 1: and he just makes sure that guys know what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: It makes more mediocre players around him at least more

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Speaker 1: competent um. And then, of course there's always the relationships,

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Speaker 1: as the caller said, Chad said, having the relationship with

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Speaker 1: the with the quarterback, particularly a young quarterback, or even

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Speaker 1: any quarterback. Even when we had a quarterback, there was

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Speaker 1: a world beater, you know, that trust factor where the

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Speaker 1: center and Kent Hall would just turn around to the

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Speaker 1: quarterback and wave him off. Ye say I don't want

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Speaker 1: to run. Don't run that play, because he knew what

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Speaker 1: he was looking at up front and said, listen, if

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Speaker 1: he runs that play, we're cooked. Don't run that play.

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Speaker 1: And the quarterback trusted him enough to say, okay, I'll

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Speaker 1: run a different one. You were on the field. How

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Speaker 1: did that go? Would he'll just be able to turn

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Speaker 1: around and say no, I mean what would it sound like? Oh? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't say no, Or he'd turned around and when

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Speaker 1: he'd dropped, he'd dropped his butt so it'd come away

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Speaker 1: from Jim's hands and Jim say what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: He looked down and say what was going on? And

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Speaker 1: Kent would look at him and just he wouldn't say that.

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Speaker 1: He just shake his head and and and Jim, it

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Speaker 1: would happen real quick too. Jim would just slap it

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Speaker 1: on the butt and say I got you, and he

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Speaker 1: would switch up. He'd switched to play. He never hesitated

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Speaker 1: to trust Kent. And how often how many times the

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Speaker 1: game would they have I don't know, once, maybe every

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Speaker 1: other game. Yeah, yeah, it would happen once and not

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Speaker 1: not even maybe not even that that often, but certainly

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Speaker 1: when it did, it mean Jim, yeah, he wasn't he

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Speaker 1: wasn't seeing it right, you know. And that's and plus

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Speaker 1: sometimes it was like we normally would run it, but

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Speaker 1: because it's like a like two guys invert or switch positions,

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Speaker 1: and Kent's like, oh, now wait a minute, and he

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Speaker 1: calls that place. No, no, no, we can't run that

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Speaker 1: against that, you know, that kind of thing. So we

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Speaker 1: would look the front would look the same, except people

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Speaker 1: would be switched or you know, yeah, switch positions, and

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Speaker 1: it would be a matchup issue. And then Kent would say, wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: let's do something different just to make it easy. So

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Speaker 1: they had a call for it. So all of that

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Speaker 1: stuff was in the mix. But the trust and the

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Speaker 1: relationship had to had to be there because you know,

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Speaker 1: you're on a play clock and you got to get

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Speaker 1: it right. But there's no question and get getting back

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Speaker 1: to the point that the caller made, We've all seen

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00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: transcendent players at every position in the NFL. Sometimes it's

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Speaker 1: hard to pick out a guard. You know, for all

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Speaker 1: of us we watched the football and all of that,

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Speaker 1: and we you know, you don't look down and side

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Speaker 1: it into your line play. But certainly there have been

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Speaker 1: players that have been transcendent in every position, both offensively

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Speaker 1: and defensively. And what our question is today is you know,

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Speaker 1: after the quarterback, what position is the most valuable in

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Speaker 1: the NFL? And I think this is generally speaking, and

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo, we can people of our generation can look

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00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: back at ken Home say, wow, that was the most

991
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: you know, it's way better than, you know, more important

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00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: than what our left tackle was at that point. You

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Speaker 1: know that kind of thing. That left tackle is pretty

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Speaker 1: good too. Me. We had some of those two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know. So that's the point. And I think generally

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Speaker 1: speaking it you can make a point. You can make

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Speaker 1: an argument for to me, center and either tackle, you know,

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Speaker 1: offensive line on the offensive line, and these days maybe

999
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: even the guard if you're in the NFC West. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, you need a guy. So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: So that's why we're talking about it. We will continue

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Speaker 1: the discussion after quarterback. Which position is the most valuable

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. We'll take a look at the results

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Speaker 1: on the Twitter poll coming up in the next hour

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Speaker 1: or so. Plus. George Wilson played a pretty important role

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Speaker 1: for the Bills, playing safety for the Bills during his

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Speaker 1: NFL career. George Wilson's going to stop by the studio

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Speaker 1: when we come back. Come on back with us, John Murphy,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, just getting going. One Bill's Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: Radiofalo Hills Radio Network Stories Update the update from around

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Speaker 1: the NFL. A little bit of news today. Texans linebacker

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Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney did not agree to a long term deal

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Speaker 1: by yesterday's four pm deadline to sign players who have

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Speaker 1: been franchised. No trade in the works for him either,

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Speaker 1: according to ESPN, so Clowney is expected to miss most,

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Speaker 1: if not all, a training camp. He has still not

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Speaker 1: signed his franchise tender worth fifteen point nine seven million

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Speaker 1: for the upcoming season. Texans tagged him as a linebacker

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Speaker 1: rather than as a defensive end. The NFL Players Association

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Speaker 1: expected a file of grievance against the Texans over that

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Speaker 1: issue when they assigned him as a linebacker using the

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Speaker 1: Jared beat the deadline yesterday. Jared agreed to a four

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Speaker 1: year extension terms not disclosed. Sources told ESPN the contracts

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Speaker 1: wars sixty eight million. They add until four o'clock yesterday

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Speaker 1: to agree to the deal. Suspended former Steelers and Raiders

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Speaker 1: wide out Mark Tavis Bryant has formally applied to the

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Speaker 1: NFL for reinstatement, a source told ESPN. Bryant sent an

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Speaker 1: email to league officials over the weekend requesting reinstatement from

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Speaker 1: an indefinite suspension imposed back in December for his repeated

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Speaker 1: violations of the league's drug policy. Bryant, former fourth round

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Speaker 1: pick of the Steelers in twenty fourteen, just twenty seven

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Speaker 1: years old, but he has missed thirty six of a

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Speaker 1: possible eighty regular season games because of his suspension. Hockey News.

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Speaker 1: The Sabers yesterday announce safe signed their first round draft

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Speaker 1: pick Dylan Cousins to a three year entry level contract.

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Speaker 1: He was picked by the Sabers in the first round,

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Speaker 1: seventh overall of the twenty nineteen NHL Draft in Vancouver

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Speaker 1: at the end of June, Bisen's homestand continues tonight. They

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Speaker 1: host the Charlotte Knights seven or five first pitch at

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Speaker 1: Sailin Field. Last night, Charlotte beat the Bisens nine to

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Speaker 1: seven and ten innings. Came one of the week long

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Speaker 1: homestand left hander Ryan burrookie. He's on the mound for

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Speaker 1: Buffalo tonight, his second start for the Hurt and former

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Speaker 1: British Open champion and Portress resident Darren Clark will hit

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Speaker 1: the first tea shot to start the British Open early

1048
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Speaker 1: Thursday morning. He won the Open in two eleven. It's

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Speaker 1: the first time the British Open has been in Northern

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Speaker 1: Ireland since nineteen fifty one. Are you pumped for the

1051
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Speaker 1: British Open? State? I kind of am. I'm you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm I love golfing up so I know that play

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Speaker 1: it and I watch it and I'm a fan and

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Speaker 1: all of that stuff. So yeah, And the Open Championship

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Speaker 1: I think is a special tournament. They all the majors special,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Masters of course for its tradition and

1057
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: for the field and for that's on the same course

1058
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 1: all the time, the US Open, because it's I think

1059
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: it's the hardest golf tournament to win on the planet.

1060
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 1: And the Open Championship is because of the birthplace of golf,

1061
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: and it's a different brand of golf. It's Links style golf,

1062
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: and there's a there's a million different ways, many ways.

1063
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: It's different than kind of the golf we played most

1064
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: of the time here in the States. So it's fun.

1065
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: I enjoy it, really enjoy it. Um, you did not

1066
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: mention the PGA Championship, you know what, I know, I

1067
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 1: have a hard time getting excited for that. That's more

1068
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: of the players that the pros themselves kind of like

1069
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: that that championship. For one thing, they moved it this

1070
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: year to what June. It was right, the Masters in April,

1071
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: the Open was right, it's already happened. The PGA has

1072
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 1: already happened. And I wonder if that kind of because

1073
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: they moved it, to me, it almost has diminished its importance.

1074
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: It's relevance. It's like, well if you can move that.

1075
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: If it's not the same tournament it has always has

1076
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: been in August for my lifetime, maybe it's not as important.

1077
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. The PGA Championship does seem to be

1078
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: the fourth of the right I think so, yeah, I

1079
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: think so. You know what, I like the Schwab Cup

1080
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: playoffs things more than more than the other because it's

1081
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of a bracket and they kind

1082
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: of cut it down and you got to keep playing good.

1083
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: So don't have fun this week in North I have

1084
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: my nephew is there and one of my best friends

1085
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: from lockboard is going with a couple of guys to

1086
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 1: watch a British Open. They're gonna have a great time,

1087
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: right all right, I'm leaving, you know, I'm I'm not

1088
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: in Thursday Friday. It is not because of the Open Championship,

1089
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: but if it, if you could, you would, that'd be

1090
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: fun championship. I've visited Ireland. I've taken one trip to

1091
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: Ireland for an anniversary kind of trip. Thing was was

1092
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 1: my my wife and I in another couple. It was

1093
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: one of the all time great trips. Ever. It was

1094
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: awesome over there. It was awesome. I would love to

1095
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: go to the Open Championship. That's all right, you know,

1096
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: as of this moment is on my bucket list. Okay,

1097
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: mine too. I mean, we had a great conversation yesterday

1098
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: after the show. We stayed after Steve and I and

1099
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: did an interview that we're going to play for you

1100
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: right now. George Wilson played nine years with the Buffalo Bills.

1101
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: Came here as off waivers really from the Detroit Lions.

1102
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: He was an undrafted free agent with Detroit. Played his

1103
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: college football in Arkansas, you know, came in as a

1104
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: wide receiver, spent a lot of time on the practice squad,

1105
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: and then two and a half years this is an

1106
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: amazing thing. We'll talk about it with him. Two and

1107
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: a half years into his career, George Wilson switched his

1108
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 1: position from wide receiver to defensiback, became a safety, started

1109
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: a safety, made some big play. Steve and I sat

1110
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: down with him yesterday a conversation with former Bill safety

1111
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: George Wilson. Here it is George Wilson, one of the

1112
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: all time favorites, with us here today in town this

1113
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 1: week to talk to brand new Bills season ticket holders,

1114
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: members of the rookie club. Are you what are you

1115
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: telling these people about Buffalo Bill's football. Hey, it's an

1116
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: exciting time to be a Bills fan. This is one

1117
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 1: of the most passionate fan bases in all the NFL.

1118
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: And we'll appreciate your support, you know, and being first

1119
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: time season ticket holders. I mean said, it's a lot

1120
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: of exciting things going on around the Buffalo Bills organization

1121
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: and it's a great time to be a part of

1122
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: The fans will respond to you. You remain I think

1123
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: a favorite among fans who remember your ear here, which

1124
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 1: wasn't that long ago. Really, no, not at all. I

1125
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: mean I've always always had a great time interacting with

1126
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: the fans. A lot of the community events posted by

1127
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: the Bills organization after the games. Uh, you know, a

1128
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 1: lot of fans always waited around in a parking lot

1129
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: or waited by your vehicle because they knew the players

1130
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: that much, they knew what they were driving, and you know,

1131
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: just to get that personal interaction, you know, not just

1132
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: after a win, but after a loss as well, to

1133
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: kind of pick you up and uplift you and let

1134
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: you know that their support is unwavering. Yeah, you were

1135
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: here for eight years in Buffalo. One of your signature

1136
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: moments happened on that Monday night game against Dallas, and

1137
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting because as a player always think about this.

1138
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: It's like a third player is early in the game, right.

1139
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: It's like in the first series, you pick off Tony

1140
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: Romo boom, and you're into the house and all of

1141
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, for you're thinking, wow, we got here,

1142
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: we go you know, and for players, because he was

1143
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: going to these games like wild we got to play

1144
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: with Then when some ofding happens like that, good, it's

1145
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 1: like a big stress relief. Okay, we now we got Okay,

1146
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: let's go now. And that play three plays in you

1147
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: pick Tony Romo off and take it to the house.

1148
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: That changed the dynamic of the expectations of everybody in

1149
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 1: the building absolutely. I think it was one of the

1150
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: first Monday night football games aired from here in the

1151
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: Orchard Park. The stadium was electrifying. I mean, the fans

1152
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: have been out there all day and you know, the

1153
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: Bills mafia, you know they're going to be energized and

1154
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: wired and ready to go. And to get that interception

1155
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: and then pick six in that first series. I mean

1156
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: it just electrified the crowd. I mean there was such

1157
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: a an aura throughout the stadium and uh, I think

1158
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: we ended up getting about three or four more interceptions

1159
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: off of Tony that night. Just unfortunately we was unable

1160
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: to h to finish off the job. You know, I

1161
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: believe Dan badly kicked that fifty three yard or to

1162
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: snatch it out of our grass at the end twice

1163
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: after who does that? Who? That guy? That remains Of

1164
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: all the games that broadcast is one of the most disheartening,

1165
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: And I sat there in the radio booth for a

1166
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: long time thinking how did that one get away? Right?

1167
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: It was right there right absolutely. I mean that just

1168
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: goes to show you, you know, the quality of a

1169
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: caliber quarterback. To Tony, Romo was a gun slinger, always

1170
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: focusing on the next play, the next pass, the next series,

1171
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: and he was able to wild his guys and lead

1172
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: them to a victory. Unfortunately, at art Spend, you're one

1173
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: of the few guys who's coming in the league, and

1174
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: I was reading your bio your Arkansas University or razorback.

1175
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: You left that school as the second all time leading

1176
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: receiver in the school's history and you end up playing

1177
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: safety in the NFL for all those years. For most

1178
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: people who listen to the show, they know I really

1179
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: had a lot of respect for guys who can transform

1180
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: their career. Lorenzo Alexander's a great example. A guy who's

1181
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: a three hundred pound guy with his hand on the

1182
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: ground turns into an outside stand up guy with you know,

1183
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: thirty five forty pounds lighter than he was switching from

1184
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: one side of the ball to the other at the

1185
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: point in your carew when you did, really you got

1186
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: a lot of help doing it, no question about it.

1187
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: But how difficult was that? It was extremely difficult. The

1188
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: head coach at the time was Dick Jeron. He came

1189
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: to me, He asked me what I'd be willing to

1190
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: make a position a change because we had so much

1191
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: money invested in the wide receiver position in draft picks,

1192
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: and you know, they just wanted to try to give

1193
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: me every opportunity to make the roster that year, and

1194
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: they liked my physical play as a receiver and special teams.

1195
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: He came to me, asked me what I'd be willing

1196
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: to do. It gave me a day or two to

1197
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: think about it and came back. I said, Coach, I've

1198
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: haven't called a pass. I haven't, so I haven't called

1199
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: certainly I haven't called a touchdown. So maybe this is

1200
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: the opportunity I've been waiting for. And you know, oftentimes

1201
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: in life, you know, opportunity is disguised as hard work,

1202
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: and it was certainly that. But I had guys like

1203
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: Jim Leonard and Kawaukee Thomas who played in the defensive

1204
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: backfield with me to help me learn to play book,

1205
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: to help me learn how to you know, backpedal and

1206
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: be an actual defensive back. And then I had a

1207
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: position coach in George Katabolos, who was very hands on

1208
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: and took his time who to really show me, you know,

1209
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: how to study, how to break down film and things

1210
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: like that, and like it was a collaborative effort. You know,

1211
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: I can't take credit forward, Like I said, this organization

1212
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: afforded me that opportunity where other organizations probably would have

1213
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,919
Speaker 1: just pushed you out and just replaced you with somebody else.

1214
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: And you went from being a wide receiver who probably

1215
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: given the roster makeup of the Bills at that time,

1216
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: you probably would not have played for the Buffalo bills.

1217
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: You may not have had a ten year career in

1218
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: the NFL and all of a sudden, but you're willingness

1219
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: to do that and put in the hard work, it

1220
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: turns into a really sweet little ten year career. Ended

1221
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: up with a couple of years of the Titans UH

1222
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: and put in a lot of great years here in Buffalo,

1223
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: and you that kind of goes under It's pushed aside

1224
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: by a lot of fans. They say, hey, that's George,

1225
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: he's a safety, is a special teams guy. That really

1226
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: is the hard work that goes into what makes up

1227
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: a player put together a nice career is the hard work. Absolutely.

1228
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: I mean I tell people all the time, if I

1229
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: don't make that position change, my career is over right,

1230
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: you know. And that's that's how how timely of an

1231
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: opportunity that was. I remember John Guy was the pro

1232
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: personnel guy at the time. He pulled me in his office.

1233
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: He had his UH race a board with all the

1234
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: players who had there was like, let's just say there

1235
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: was like a hundred hundred guys that was in the

1236
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: third year. Well, the list that was in that fourth

1237
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: year was probably closer to team and that was more

1238
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: players than that, But he was just trying to show

1239
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: me that this is a pivotal year in my career,

1240
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: and in order for me to sustain and give my

1241
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: sustain my career and give myself a chance to continue playing,

1242
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: I probably need to embrace this opportunity and change positions.

1243
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: And I just say I had a lot more fun

1244
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: on defense than offense. George Wilson, a lot more fun

1245
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: being the predator that I can tell you that former

1246
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: real safety George Wilson. And to make that change, George,

1247
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: it handed me different skill set for you physically, right,

1248
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: I mean you had to learn the backpedal, you had

1249
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: to learn the proper tackling technique. How much of the

1250
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: physical challenge change was important to you back then? How

1251
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: much of that was it was? It was? It was

1252
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: very drafted of a difference. I mean, you know I

1253
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: had to buck up, you know, protect my shoulders, making

1254
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: all those tackles, learn how to take on a three

1255
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: hundred pound pulling guard, you know, to set the edge

1256
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: for the defense. But a lot of it was was

1257
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: meant to John, like you had to play with an

1258
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,439
Speaker 1: edge on defense. You know, you have to be able

1259
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: to anticipate and react in the in the in the

1260
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: fraction of a second in order to make a play

1261
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: on their football or to get off the field on

1262
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: third down. And so it was a lot more film

1263
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: study going in. You know, as a role receiver, you know,

1264
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: you know the steve, you know, you know where you're going.

1265
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 1: You know, the defense has to anticipate based on your alignment,

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01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: based on the formation, based on the quarterbacks drop. You know,

1267
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: so you know where you're going on offense, on defense,

1268
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: you gotta do a lot of film study, a lot

1269
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: of preparation to be able to anticipate those plays and

1270
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: those that that's the difference between being average, being good,

1271
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: and being great. Are the players that can carry over

1272
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: that film study and make plays on game day. You

1273
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 1: mentioned Jim Leonard, who's now We talked about it before

1274
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: we went on. The defensive coordinator was content, he was

1275
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: playing and he was your teammate. What did you get

1276
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: from him as a teammates first making that change, man,

1277
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: Jim Leonard taught me how to study my playbook. He

1278
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: taught me how to learn the plays and be able

1279
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: to recall those assignments, you know, without without much thought.

1280
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: You know. He helped to simplify the playbook for me,

1281
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: and he took me by the hand, knowing that I

1282
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: was playing the same position that he was playing. It

1283
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: was something that was very selfless. And when Jim was

1284
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: playing with the Jets and I was still here in Buffalo,

1285
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: you know, the first time I saw him, I went

1286
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 1: up to him, I gave him a big hug and

1287
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: I told him, thank you, brother, because you didn't have

1288
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: to do that. And that just shows the brotherhood, the

1289
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: fraternity of being an NFL player, the quality of person

1290
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: that he was to be able to train someone that's

1291
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: going to compete with him for the very same job.

1292
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: And he, like I said, he ended up going somewhere else.

1293
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: And so several years later, I ended up doing the

1294
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: same thing for the North Cercy, you know, And so

1295
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 1: it just it was it was my dude, you in

1296
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: my obligation to do the same thing for Denores as

1297
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: Jim did for me. And I hope that other guys

1298
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: in the NFL around the league do the same thing

1299
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: in order to preserve this fraternity. It's not about a competition.

1300
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 1: It's about making sure that we put the best product

1301
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: out there on the field, and we give each other

1302
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: the best chance to succeed and provide for our families.

1303
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: Certainly there was a whole new skill set to learn.

1304
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: At safety. There were, you know, different techniques. I mean

1305
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: it was just the reverse, you know. Certainly a wide

1306
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: receiver has a lot of technique how to release and

1307
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 1: how to run there right at the top of the stem,

1308
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: how to come out with angle on how to plant

1309
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 1: your feet and hold your shoulders and hand place, all

1310
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: of that stuff. Did that knowledge from the receivers? I

1311
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 1: gotta think that helped you once you switch. There were

1312
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: se certain things like, well, wait a minute, here's what

1313
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: they're thinking. You could almost say, in this situation, here's

1314
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: what this receiver's thinking. And that could almost help us

1315
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: a defensive back, and certainly maybe be the one thing

1316
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: you could contribute to a guy like Jim Leonard Man

1317
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: that paid great dividends for me, Steve. When I made

1318
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: that position change, I had to ask myself, Okay, what

1319
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: do I know right now that can help shortness learning

1320
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: curve for me? I only have one off season essentially

1321
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: to make this transition. And so I said, I know offense,

1322
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: so I know why receiver splits based on where they're

1323
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 1: lined up, whether the routes they like to run, whether

1324
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: the depths of the routes based on the quarterbacks drop,

1325
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 1: what coverages based on the coverage that the defenses are running.

1326
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: What's the weakness of the coverage? What did we try

1327
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: to attack it? And so I tried to apply what

1328
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: I took, what I gathered from being on the offensive

1329
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: side of the ball, to help apply that to the

1330
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: defensive scheme how we were trying to attack, you know,

1331
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: the weaknesses of the offense, and just the synergy and

1332
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: the merging of those two things really helped me to

1333
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: shorten that learning curve and be able to get on

1334
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: the playing field sooner than later. Talking with George Wilson,

1335
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: former Bill safety in town to talk to members of

1336
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 1: the Bill's rookie club new season ticket holders. George, and

1337
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: you mentioned Dick Turon was you're head coach, and then Chan.

1338
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: You played here with Chan not tremendously successful years for

1339
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: the team, but you had some high lights, and I

1340
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: imagine you had some games and we talked about the

1341
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 1: the game against Cowboys, but games and moments where you

1342
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: thought things maybe turned the corner a little bit for

1343
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: this Yeah, absolutely, especially I guess that was maybe the

1344
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: two thousand eleven season. I think we jumped out maybe

1345
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: the storm one and beat the Patriots here at home,

1346
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: ended that long draft of of consecutive losses to them,

1347
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: and uh, we were really well on our way. I

1348
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: think some injuries uh slowed us down and we didn't

1349
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: we didn't finish it. We didn't have as good of

1350
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: a second half of the season as we did the

1351
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: first half. But you know, certainly, uh, you know, we

1352
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: definitely built up some momentum early on and there's a

1353
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of excitement around the Bills at

1354
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: that time. How many guys you keep in touch with

1355
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: from those days? I know he's finished your career in Tennessee,

1356
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: And where are you living now? I still have my

1357
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 1: home in Atlanta, Georgia, but I also have a foreign

1358
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: property in my hometown of Paduca, Kentucky as well, so

1359
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:55,439
Speaker 1: I'm splitting time between both places. And uh, I see

1360
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: a lot of guys. I mean, I'm in a in

1361
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 1: an investment group. H it's called fifth Quarter and the

1362
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 1: Smiths and it's uh Angelo crow Wells, our president, London

1363
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: Fletcher's our vice president, to Keyo Spikes, Nate Clements, Terrence

1364
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: McGee and Mario O'Hagan and so U you know, we

1365
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: have an investment group all former bills and uh you know,

1366
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: to be able to uh continue our relationship off the field,

1367
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: and uh you know, we always talk about our time

1368
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo, how we all connected initially, and it's

1369
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: just a great platform for us to be able to,

1370
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: uh to have a second career where we're pooling resources

1371
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 1: and sharing the risk and investing in businesses, are starting

1372
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 1: our own businesses and uh so I keep up with them.

1373
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: Marcus Stroud and UM a few other guys. You know,

1374
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: some great guys. I mean when I talk, when I

1375
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 1: tell people, you know some of the names that we're here.

1376
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: When we when when I first got here in oh four,

1377
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 1: I mean we had Pat Williams and Sam Adams and

1378
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: some guys. I mean we we we really had a

1379
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 1: juggernaut on the defensive side of the ball all. But

1380
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: the great thing about that I had true professionals to

1381
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 1: get to know, to follow their examples and to really

1382
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: teach me how to be a pro, which allowed me

1383
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 1: to in essence, do the same thing for the younger

1384
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: guys as I. As I gotten older while you played here, George,

1385
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 1: you became I don't want to say the spokesman for

1386
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 1: that defense or the team. But you were in the

1387
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 1: media a lot. I'm gonna take credit for it. I

1388
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: think I was the first one who called you the center.

1389
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: I think you were murder You were like the guy.

1390
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 1: You were the guy to go to guy for the

1391
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: media back then, right, Yeah, yes, sir, And that's just

1392
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: I try to give an honest assessment. I was accountable

1393
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 1: to my own actions, plays that I made, plays that

1394
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 1: I didn't make, and not just saying what sounded good,

1395
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 1: but sound saying what needed to be said. You were

1396
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 1: a truth telling yes, absolutely, not avoiding to talk the

1397
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 1: tough questions. And I think that's why, you know, members

1398
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: of the media took a lining to me, you know,

1399
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 1: just because I was a straight shooter and I wasn't

1400
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:56,560
Speaker 1: going to give them a BS answer on just a

1401
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: question that was, you know, easy to avoid or the

1402
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: duck can I So I was a guy I called

1403
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: you the senator, and I think I elected to the Senate. Okay, So,

1404
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: Burf and I have been sitting here, we do this

1405
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 1: every day, and we talk about the bills, the Buffalo bills,

1406
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 1: and you said, you you know, you've been asked back

1407
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 1: to talk to the rookies club of brand new season

1408
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: ticket holders. I'm going to ask you, you know, you

1409
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: live in Atlanta and you got you spend flit time

1410
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,839
Speaker 1: between there in Paduca. How close do you stayed attached

1411
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 1: to the team, how close to how much attention do

1412
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 1: you pay to what the Bills are doing? And and

1413
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 1: we've said this is the most optimistic six and ten

1414
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 1: team from a year ago. Ever, how optimistic are you

1415
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 1: about the Bills and what they're doing? I mean, I'm

1416
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 1: excited about the direction of the organization is going and um,

1417
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 1: it's been always been sound. Defensively, it looks like we

1418
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 1: have our franchise quarterback to be able to build around.

1419
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 1: I was very excited a couple of years ago to

1420
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: see the playoff drought ended, and uh, you know, just

1421
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: to see the players continuing to buy in and press forward.

1422
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 1: And anytime you at the support of the Bills mafia

1423
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 1: and the Buffalo Bills fan base, you know, um, you know,

1424
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: the sky's the limit. I really see us really breaking

1425
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 1: through that threshold and really becoming a consistent playoff team.

1426
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 1: And I think this organization deserves that, this fan base

1427
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 1: certainly deserves that and I think the best days are

1428
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,600
Speaker 1: ahead for this organization. Georgia is great to see you.

1429
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming in with us today. I no

1430
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 1: fans are going to be really excited to talk with

1431
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 1: you this this week while you're in Buffala. I was

1432
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: excited when I when I found out I was going

1433
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 1: to be on with you guys. That guy certainly didn't disappoint.

1434
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: I'm excited to be his great. Thanks for you all too.

1435
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: George Wilson, former Bill's safety He spoke yesterday last night

1436
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 1: to the members of the Bills Rookie Club first year

1437
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: season ticket holders invited to hear members of the Bills

1438
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 1: Legends community, including George Wilson. We were talking about him

1439
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: because we did the interview yesterday and we've been talking

1440
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: about him a little bit today and you mentioned now

1441
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: there's a presence about George Wilson, and I think you know,

1442
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 1: kiddingly we call him the Senator, but you said, he's

1443
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 1: almost like presidential. It's like a stature, right, because of

1444
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: the weak he carries. Occasionally, when you're you're out and

1445
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: I was out covering the NFL around the league, you'd

1446
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: sit down with guys and they had a quality about

1447
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 1: them that they were articulate, intelligent. The game was bigger

1448
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: than themselves, but the game was a small part of

1449
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,600
Speaker 1: who they were. That kind of thing it was. It

1450
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 1: was it was interesting to talk to guys like that.

1451
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: There have been other guys around the league that, you know,

1452
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: we talk about who are kind of presidential in their presence,

1453
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 1: Guys who are you know, you can see that they

1454
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: would have could have picked any field of endeavor to

1455
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,879
Speaker 1: go into, and because they were physically gifted, they chose football,

1456
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 1: and you know, they were successful and they're going to

1457
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 1: be successful in whatever they do. He talked about what

1458
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,759
Speaker 1: he was doing with some of the other former players

1459
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 1: that he's played with over the years and what they're

1460
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 1: doing now in business and stuff, and you can just

1461
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 1: tell they're successful. People act like that, you know, and

1462
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: certainly he falls into that category. It's great to see him.

1463
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 1: He's any just like you knew he would be. He

1464
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 1: seems to be doing very well. Yeah, good player too. Right,

1465
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: nine years I'm gonna undrafted position change. I don't think

1466
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 1: we talked about it with George. I don't think you

1467
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 1: can overestimate what a gigantic shift that is to go

1468
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: from trying to make it in the NFL as a

1469
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 1: wide receiver and then being told two and a half

1470
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:15,639
Speaker 1: years into your NFL career, we want you to play

1471
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 1: Safety's that's huge, totally different skill set, right, Yeah, And

1472
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: like I said, he was, he was a pretty accomplished

1473
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 1: Division one wide receiver. Yeah, And that kind of thing

1474
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 1: is just so difficult to do because you spend all

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Speaker 1: your time in meetings looking and talking about the game

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Speaker 1: literally in a different language and a different point of view,

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Speaker 1: and it is it is impossible to say how difficult

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01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 1: that is, because it's like being thrust into a different culture,

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Speaker 1: a different mindset, with different language all at once. That

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Speaker 1: and it's and expected to play at at the most

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Speaker 1: elite level be fluent, and it's really difficult to do it.

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Speaker 1: It takes an enormous amount of concentration and hard work.

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Speaker 1: And kudos to George for pulling off good guy, good

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Speaker 1: guy to talk with. We enjoyed getting together with him

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Speaker 1: and doing that interview. Hey, after quarterback, what position is

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Speaker 1: most important most critical to an NFL team? Let's get

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Speaker 1: back to your thoughts on that. Give us some calls

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Speaker 1: eight oh three five fifty and toll free one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty or sending a tweet,

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Speaker 1: we might read it on the tweet sheet. Come on back,

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalaida Health from One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome Back One Goes Live

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Speaker 1: from One Goals Drive, John Murphy Steve Tasker. About a

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Speaker 1: week and a couple of days until our first training

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Speaker 1: camp show. We mapped it out today eight shows. A

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Speaker 1: training camp starts a week from Thursday on July twenty fifth.

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Speaker 1: You guys started something when I was out for five

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Speaker 1: weeks while you were gone, we were the kids were

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01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 1: playing around and it's fine, man. We got this thing,

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Speaker 1: new thing called what's for lunch? Right, So here's what

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01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:07,600
Speaker 1: happens is we're gonna get We're gonna give you a

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01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: couple of choices. Something you would that you would like

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01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 1: to chow down on, right exactly, something like that, and

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01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: then other things that you're like, maybe you like it,

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01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 1: but now you can only pick one. Right, So we

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01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 1: have you're gonna have a choice either thumbs up or

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01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 1: thumbs down, or you would eat it for lunch or

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01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: you would throw it in a garbage Okay, so I

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01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 1: eat your lunch. Really like you're gonna trade somebody, right,

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01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 1: You're gonna take him, or I'll change you this for

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01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 1: that or whatever. Okay, So here's today over on on

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Speaker 1: social media on Twitter, Golden Tate, who has played bounced

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Speaker 1: around the National Football League. He's played for the Seattle Seahawks,

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01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 1: He's played for the Detroit Lions, and today he came

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01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 1: out and said, you know what, Matthew Stafford is the

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01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 1: best quarterback ever played for played with. Would you rather

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01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: have this is your choice for lunch? Would you rather

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01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 1: have Russell Wilson as a quarterback or Matt Stafford as

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01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 1: a quarterback? Well? No, Initially when I saw that question,

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01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: I thought, well, this is easy. But the more I

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01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 1: think about it, you know, Russell Wilson is I'm not

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01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 1: saying he's overcome stuff, but he's a little bit undersized.

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01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 1: He was not a first round pick. He came into

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01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 1: the league. Is not a standard, classic stand in the

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01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:13,919
Speaker 1: pocket drop back quarterback, but he's been very productive. Matthew Stafford,

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01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 1: on the other hand, is kind of a classic right stand,

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01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 1: stand in the pocket quarterback, and I like that about him.

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01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: I like a lot about Matthew Stafford, but because of

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01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 1: what he has done, and because I think of his

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01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 1: competitive nature, I'm gonna go with Russell Wilson. That's why

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01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 1: I'd rather have. Yeah, that's what I'd rather have for lunch,

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01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson for lunch. Is that rather than yes, rather

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01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 1: than Matthew Stafford, you're gonna turn down Matthew said. I'll

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01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 1: tell you what Matthew Stafford to me is a great

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01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: quarterback plan on a team and a franchise that has

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01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 1: never been able to get it together. I think there's

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01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 1: no questions. He's got a tremendous arm talent. He's a

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01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 1: tough guy. You've seen him. There's the great highlight of

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01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 1: him getting hurt. He had to come off the field

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01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 1: and because they took the other team took a time out,

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01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 1: he goes, hey, I can come back on the field now,

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01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,560
Speaker 1: came back on through the winning touchdown. Tough guy. I

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01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 1: love him. Accurately, throws the ball accurately. He's built to

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01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 1: be successful in the way the league is legislated now,

1545
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 1: Certainly Russell Wilson is a winner. Yeah, and you're you're

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01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,640
Speaker 1: splitting hairs here, But I don't have a problem with

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01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: the one. But I think I kind of like Matthew

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01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: Stafford better because I think he makes the guys around

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01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: him better. I think Russell Wilson is good and can

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01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: make plays, but I think Matt Stafford let your offense

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01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 1: flourish with the guys around him. So I'll take Matt

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01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 1: Stafford instead of Russell Wilson. That's lunch item number one. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Oh there's more, Yes, there's We'll have a couple more.

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01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 1: We're not gonna go through all. I got a ton

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01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 1: of them. We're just gonna win. Which would you rather

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01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,600
Speaker 1: have for lunch? Would you rather have Ezekiel Elliott and

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01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 1: the production he's put together and then and and the

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01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 1: workhorse that he is or se Quon Barkley. I don't

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01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: have to think about it, really, Sequon Barkley, he's a

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01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 1: special talent um just scratching the surface. Last year early

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01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 1: pick in the draft. I know Elliott was too, but

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Speaker 1: I think I think sae Quon Barkley on what's gonna

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01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 1: be I think again, a Giants team that struggles, I

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01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 1: still think he will be a standout. And I think

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Speaker 1: sae Quon Barkley is maybe the top back in the

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Speaker 1: league right now. I'm easily gonna Pickley for lunch and

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Speaker 1: why does why does Zeke fall short? Um, he's good.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to say fall short. He's good. I just

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01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: don't think he says versatile as se Quon Barkley. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he says dynamic. I certainly don't think he's

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01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,799
Speaker 1: a dynamic big plague potential that you get from Barkley.

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Speaker 1: Those would be the two big reasons I think if

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01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 1: we're talking about this being lunchtime, se Quon Barkley has

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01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 1: is a salad that's got everything I love on it,

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01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 1: the same the dright dressing, the right ingredients on everything.

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01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott is a salad, but he's got a couple

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01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 1: of things in and I don't like. He doesn't catch

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01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 1: the ball one up, don't run rounds well enough. And

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01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 1: he's got off the field issues. You don't know if

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01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna do something like bump a security guard in

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01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 1: Vegas or get in trouble with the league from misconduct,

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01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna get suspended for six games. So Zeke Elliot's good,

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01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 1: but he's got a couple of ingredients I don't like.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I'm not gonna would I'll go with you.

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01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 1: I'll take se Quon Barkley for lunch as well. Right,

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01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 1: last thing, all right, here we go. Buffalo style pizza

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Speaker 1: or New York style pizza. A tough call because there's

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Speaker 1: a lot to be said for I've heard we've had

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Speaker 1: a long conversation about the best pizza and why it's best, pete,

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Speaker 1: and why I like I like a couple of different

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Speaker 1: kinds of pizza than you do. Remember the stuff we

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Speaker 1: had about the chain Pizza Hut, oh and and the Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Oh didn't you tell me you like pizza? Oh? Yeah,

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01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm I'll stand up immediately. You are disqualified

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Speaker 1: from answering this question for making this choice. All right,

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01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: if you if you think there's look, Pizza Hut's fine,

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01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 1: But when you get real pizza from Buffalo or New York,

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01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: that's which is it? Buffalo Pizza or New York. I

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01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 1: gotta go with the home team. I gotta say Buffalo

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01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 1: a little bit thicker of the what do they call

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01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 1: the little cup pepperoni? Now that everybody does, yeah, cup

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01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 1: and chart that's hard to beat. Um. There's a guy online.

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01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,600
Speaker 1: The Buffalo News wrote about him who does rating what

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01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 1: Buffalo's best pizzas and he came up with the one.

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01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 1: It sounds silly to say what I grew up on

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01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 1: Lock City Pizza, the old Penttillo's pizza and Lockboard, which

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Speaker 1: was number one. I mean that is the classic for me. Yes,

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01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: Buffalo style, and I see I like New York Pizza two.

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01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm like that. I love the size of the slice.

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01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 1: I like the fact to fold it up. Yeah, I

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01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 1: like that, but you can do that with Buffalo Pizza.

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01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 1: I'm sticking with the home team as well. That's ill.

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01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 1: We'll both go Buffalo Pizza on that. I will be

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01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 1: total homers, just like we always are. But it's like

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01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:25,560
Speaker 1: I always am last one. This I know I this

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01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 1: one came in late under the wire. There's there's a

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01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 1: this is a good one. So just nine. Now you're

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01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 1: taking two guys fresh off the press. You know what's

1619
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 1: going to happen in their career, and it's got all

1620
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 1: stretched out in front of them. Right. Would you rather

1621
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 1: have Frank Gore or Larry Fitzgerald? That's another tough one.

1622
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:46,839
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame running back, Hall of Fame wide receiver, particularly,

1623
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 1: they both could be first ballots. They both had long,

1624
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 1: productive careers, consistent players never won the never won the

1625
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: big ones, played on some rough teams, had some good moments.

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01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald or Frank Gore? Are we just what are we?

1627
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 1: Are we talking about the entire person? Are we talking

1628
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: about just their longevity, their career, their production? What is lunch?

1629
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: So you can pick and choose what you want. I'm

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01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 1: gonna go with I'm not saying with a home team here,

1631
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 1: And look, I've not been around Frank or much, hasn't

1632
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 1: been on the show yet, but I would go with

1633
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald just from what I know of him, what

1634
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: I've heard of people who work with him, and guys

1635
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 1: who have played with him, including some current Buffalo Bills,

1636
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 1: and guys who work with them on a regular basis.

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01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:33,560
Speaker 1: I think he is a unique, special person. Did you

1638
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 1: see again? This is not football? But he spoke, He

1639
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 1: delivered a eulogy. I believe it's Senator McCain's funeral rights

1640
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago. He was fantastic. I think

1641
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 1: the guy is a special person and a great player.

1642
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:48,759
Speaker 1: He's had a long, productive career, certain Hall of famer,

1643
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 1: a great teammate by all reports, and I think Frank

1644
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 1: Gore has a lot of those similar qualities. Although as

1645
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know him that well. I go

1646
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 1: with Larry Fitzgerald. You're picking them and really that's really

1647
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 1: the only difference you can pick up. Frank Gore has

1648
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 1: at the end of his career, now fourteen years as

1649
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 1: a running back to still be in the league, and

1650
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 1: one reason he is still in the league is because

1651
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 1: of the quality of professional he is. Frank Gore works

1652
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,719
Speaker 1: hard at it all the time. He shows young players

1653
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 1: how to act, He shows young players how to play,

1654
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 1: he shows young players how to study. He shows young

1655
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 1: players when to be there, how to think about it,

1656
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 1: how serious to take their craft. That's the reason Frank

1657
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 1: Gore at this point of his career is still being productive,

1658
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,759
Speaker 1: and that's why he's still being asked to be productive

1659
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 1: because he does it all. He hits on all cylinders.

1660
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald, think about the flip side. Larry Fitzgerald has

1661
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: been with the same organization from the beginning of his

1662
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 1: career all the way to the end. There's a little

1663
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 1: bit of cache in that, no question about it. He's

1664
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 1: also been very productive. When he had like what six

1665
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 1: thousand different guys throwing him the football, he had like

1666
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 1: ninety catches with Tommy Schmeigmhoyton, Joey Bag of Donuts, Charlie

1667
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 1: six Pack. You know, all these guys that are thrown

1668
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 1: passes to him, nobody knows who they were. And last

1669
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 1: year he had Josh Rosen fresh off the fresh out

1670
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 1: of the draft. So Larry, Larry Fitzgerald has been productive

1671
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 1: as well, and he does have a certain public appearance,

1672
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 1: He does have a certain public persona. He is way

1673
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: outside of football as well. I think for that you

1674
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 1: for the public difference that he's made around he might

1675
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 1: have to give the nod to Larry. But make no mistake,

1676
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:35,560
Speaker 1: Frank Gore is still in the National Football League for

1677
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 1: a reason. So I think for lunch today, I'll take

1678
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald just because of he was on one bad

1679
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 1: organization for his entire career and was prolific inside that organization.

1680
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 1: They weren't always bad. That's the Super Bowl appearance. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: when they got Kurt Warners or quarterback, he finally got

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01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 1: a guy that could pull the trigger. Yeah, I get it,

1683
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 1: but you know, and so that's what I'm in. If

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01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 1: that was what's for lunch, Murphy did great. I'm pretty

1685
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:01,799
Speaker 1: good at Yes, you're pretty good at dinner and breakfast

1686
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, but I like I like that. I

1687
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 1: guess it's a way to get us to talk about

1688
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 1: that stuff outside of you know, we get a chance

1689
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: to talk about guys who aren't actually on this team. Right.

1690
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 1: I liked it. We'll do it again, all right, and

1691
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 1: we come back. We're gonna get back to which position

1692
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 1: is most valuable in the NFL? Come on back with us.

1693
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,839
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Collida Health. This is Buffalo

1694
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. So we just did lunch, right, what's for lunch?

1695
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna do that every day. See, not every day,

1696
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 1: a couple times a week. Maybe you drive that I

1697
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 1: can stand. I can stand and missing at lunch a

1698
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 1: day or two. Yeah, me too. You drive that lunch

1699
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 1: card though, Why don't you handle that? All right? I

1700
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: like that. I like letting you run that. Hey, we

1701
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 1: had an interesting question that's still up for debate discussion one.

1702
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 1: And it all came about because we were talking about

1703
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 1: the running backs and some of their demands for new contracts,

1704
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 1: right including out West in Los Angeles. I don't know

1705
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,959
Speaker 1: from you, after quarterback, what is the most valuable position

1706
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 1: in the NFL? What do you think? Got a Twitter

1707
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: poll going on that with seven hundred forty responses so far,

1708
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 1: and forty five percent of you say a pass rusher

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01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 1: is the next most valuable position after quarterback. Thirty two

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01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 1: percent say offensive tackle, seventeen percent say cornerback. I think

1711
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 1: we're going light there, folks, seven percent of something else

1712
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 1: in mind. Give us a call. We'll discuss eight h

1713
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 1: three oh five fifty toll free one eight eight eight

1714
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty, or sending a tweet to

1715
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 1: one Bill's Live. We might read it on the tweet sheet.

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01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 1: Call here from Mike in Vegas. Hello, Mike, go ahead,

1717
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 1: you're on the air with us. Hi, how are you today? Okay, good, good.

1718
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 1: Here's my thoughts. I think everybody's the fact that it's

1719
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 1: a team sport is important. Leaving me a coach right now.

1720
01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 1: You tell you every position is important team. That's how

1721
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 1: we were in the Super Bowl when you were their steeds.

1722
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 1: So you choose not to select one of those positions, Mike,

1723
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 1: Sorry about the dogs part? Yeah what dogs? No? Okay,

1724
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:18,560
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, so Mike, you're not picking any you

1725
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 1: don't think any positions more important? Every position is important.

1726
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 1: You're starting with the quarterback of the long snapper right

1727
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 1: up there with everybody else. No, I'm just being ridiculous here.

1728
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 1: I get your point. It is a team sport. It

1729
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 1: is the ultimate team sport. But guys are paid differently.

1730
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 1: Guys are valued in one sense more than others. Right,

1731
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 1: you know, and there's another there's guys on the team.

1732
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 1: You tell me. They know that, right, you know who's

1733
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 1: who they're paying who they're not? Oh yeah, right, Oh sure,

1734
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 1: here's the thing too, and this is this might be

1735
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 1: room for another tribute him and he Mike brings up

1736
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 1: a good point. Can you build a team in any way,

1737
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:01,560
Speaker 1: shape or form and still win? So can you have

1738
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 1: obviously you're not going to have a horrible quarterback and win.

1739
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:06,680
Speaker 1: But if you have, like I say, if everybody has

1740
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 1: the same quarterback, you know how many different ways can

1741
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 1: you build a team and still win? Would you go

1742
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:15,600
Speaker 1: right away, go right to a dominant offensive line, or

1743
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 1: would you go for a big time running back. Would

1744
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 1: you need a big number one receiver or would you

1745
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 1: go defense? Would you need a big pass rush or

1746
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 1: would you need shutdown corner? Would you you know, we

1747
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: can all we've all seen teams win games differently. In fact,

1748
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 1: we you know, you got to tip your hat to

1749
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks getting back to the playoffs with Russell Wilson.

1750
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 1: They did it on his rookie deal. They went twice

1751
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 1: one one. Now he's an elite quarterback. They're paying him

1752
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 1: like that, and all the legion of doom on the

1753
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 1: other side of the ball's gone. Now they're winning games

1754
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 1: a completely different way. It's we've all seen it, but

1755
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 1: it's hard, and the Seahawks are the only team I

1756
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 1: can really kind of remember doing it. Wow, Now they're

1757
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 1: doing it a little differently with the same you know,

1758
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 1: quarterback and same head coach, same staff. Usually you see

1759
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:01,600
Speaker 1: a team change everything out and then they go in

1760
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 1: a completely different direction. How you know, how do you

1761
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 1: start if if all those positions were equal, you know

1762
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:12,640
Speaker 1: they're not. They're not equal. And teams your original point is,

1763
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 1: is your your key point? Their teams build around what

1764
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 1: they have, Right, you don't have a good pass rush year,

1765
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 1: well and we'll do something else to get around that.

1766
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 1: You don't And you're right, you don't have a good quarterback,

1767
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:24,640
Speaker 1: Well let's try something else. I mean, the bills have

1768
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 1: been faced with that dilemma for decades almost, but I'm

1769
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:29,639
Speaker 1: trying to wait to do it and consistently. Yeah, it's

1770
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 1: hard to do it. And that was one of the

1771
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 1: big things when Sean McDermott Brandon being they began formulating

1772
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:38,719
Speaker 1: this culture that They've got one word that they used

1773
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:41,679
Speaker 1: more so than any other coaching staff that in recent

1774
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 1: memory that have come in. They said they wanted to

1775
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 1: be sustainable, which is why you know all the contracts

1776
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 1: are set up right that you know, they got out

1777
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 1: from underneath a lot of contracts that were great players,

1778
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 1: but you know, too expensive. It was almost impossible for

1779
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 1: those players, no matter what you signed them for, the

1780
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,680
Speaker 1: more selled Arius is or the Sammy Watkins is on

1781
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 1: the horizon, it was almost impossible for them to earn

1782
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:07,719
Speaker 1: or be of value to the money you were gonna

1783
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 1: have to pay them. How is Marcel Darius gonna earn

1784
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 1: one hundred million bucks or ninety million bucks whatever that

1785
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 1: contract was. He was gonna have to be Aaron Donald

1786
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: and he's not. So they got all that in place

1787
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 1: with the one word in mind being Listen, whatever we

1788
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 1: build here, let's make it sustainable, much like the guys

1789
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 1: do it in New England where they buy, sell and

1790
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 1: trade things. Oh, every year, great players go away and

1791
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 1: they kind of replace them. They spend that money on

1792
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 1: other position groups and they do it a whole different

1793
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 1: way the next year. So the Patriots have done a

1794
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 1: ton of different ways, although they've always had the one

1795
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 1: constant guy taken snaps. The Seattle Seahawks have done it

1796
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:51,719
Speaker 1: differently now. So it's interesting to see. But the question

1797
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:55,839
Speaker 1: this Twitter poll of ours after what quarterback? What positions

1798
01:28:55,880 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 1: the most valuable? I think the best players the most valuable. Right,

1799
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 1: you've got a great safety boom right building? Yeah, yeah,

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01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 1: I think of the Steelers with Troy Palomalo. Yeah, it'd

1801
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 1: be hard to make your argument then when he was playing,

1802
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:12,599
Speaker 1: and even now that you really need a key safety,

1803
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 1: you really need a great safety to build a good team.

1804
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 1: Hard to make that argument. I don't think I would

1805
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 1: be on board with that. Now you've got Troy Palomalo, Okay,

1806
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 1: he's he's he's your most important or in Ed Reid

1807
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 1: yeah or Ed Reid yeah yeah. I mean there's some

1808
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 1: guys out there that can do it. But what happens

1809
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:30,680
Speaker 1: back you think back to the the great teams of

1810
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 1: you know, the eighty five Bears. Mike Singletary is a

1811
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 1: middle linebacker. He made the whole thing work, you know,

1812
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 1: And and the great defensive coordinator was Ryan Buddy. Ryan

1813
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 1: would tell you if I could do it, because Mike

1814
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 1: Singletary was my middle linebacker. Mike told everybody what to do.

1815
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 1: And so, yeah, there are singular players, and I think

1816
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 1: that's the key to this whole question now that we've

1817
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 1: talked to in circles. You really got to do it

1818
01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 1: with your whatever your best player is. Yeah, the most

1819
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 1: productive player. That's how you build it. And that's be

1820
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 1: your most important position. Tweet sheet brought to you by

1821
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 1: Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of the Buffalo Bills.

1822
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 1: From Jack. On the tweet sheet, he says, while it

1823
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:14,680
Speaker 1: used to be defensive end, quarterbacks get rid of the

1824
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:16,639
Speaker 1: ball so fast and know how to work the pocket

1825
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 1: to escape pressure. So having great defensive backs who can

1826
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 1: lock down wide receivers to buy time for the pass

1827
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 1: rush and keep their eyes in the backfield to jump

1828
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:28,640
Speaker 1: routes and get breakups on pick or picks. Cornerback cornerback

1829
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:30,640
Speaker 1: is most vital. That's why they get paid. They do

1830
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:33,680
Speaker 1: get paid. That's a strong argument, and you I think

1831
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:35,720
Speaker 1: you agree with that, right I do. Yeah, that's that's

1832
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 1: what I think. I think those guys because it's deep

1833
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 1: into a defensive play. You know, after the quarterback drops back,

1834
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 1: one option is not there? Two options not there? Those cornerbacks,

1835
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 1: ever deep they go, evert covered up they are in

1836
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 1: the back end, makes the difference. The quarterback is scared

1837
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:54,559
Speaker 1: off the throw, or forced to throw it in too

1838
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 1: tight a window, or just doesn't like what he sees.

1839
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 1: The plays blown up because the guy's on the outside,

1840
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:03,719
Speaker 1: and certainly there's always guys chasing him on the inside.

1841
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:06,360
Speaker 1: But you know, if you can make that guy hold

1842
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:08,719
Speaker 1: onto it for three seconds, three and a half seconds,

1843
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 1: and then it's it's hard to protect him for that long.

1844
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 1: Here's one on the tweet sheet from Marty who says, well,

1845
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 1: I am not certain pass rush applies in every division.

1846
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 1: It does in ours. The amcast with Brady, you have

1847
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 1: to be able to disrupt him, and pass rush is

1848
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:25,720
Speaker 1: the best way to accomplish that task. No one would

1849
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 1: argue with that pass rush being varied in your pass

1850
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 1: rush I think not. I mean, look, you played with

1851
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 1: the all time great pass rusher Bruce Smith and everybody

1852
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 1: that the Bills played then twenty years ago, knew that

1853
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 1: he was coming, that he was a great pass rusher.

1854
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 1: They had to answer that. They had to come up

1855
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 1: with a solution. It's different now, right, I think teams

1856
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 1: expect different. First of all, there's nobody like Bruce Smith.

1857
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 1: And secondly, teams anticipate, Yeah, that guy the right defensive

1858
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 1: end might be coming, but so might the defensive tackle

1859
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 1: or maybe a linebacker. Right. I think teams are much

1860
01:31:57,080 --> 01:32:00,800
Speaker 1: more varied now. And it comes back to you got

1861
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 1: a truly transcendent player that we've talked about. You know,

1862
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 1: you get one of those guys, that guy becomes your

1863
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:07,759
Speaker 1: most important player. Lawrence Taylor for the New York Giants.

1864
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 1: We had Doug Ferrar on yesterday. The book The Genius

1865
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 1: of Desperation that he wrote, Guys like Bruce Smith, Guys

1866
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 1: like Lawrence Taylor put the offensive line and the offensive

1867
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 1: coordinators in a sense of desperation because they have to

1868
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:23,880
Speaker 1: have an answer for a guy that there's there's no

1869
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 1: one answer too. You know, you can't have just one guy,

1870
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:28,679
Speaker 1: you can't have just two guys. What are you gonna

1871
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 1: do if they move him? You know you've got to

1872
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 1: have a plan for those guys, and in desperation they

1873
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 1: come up with all these revolutionary ways to deal with

1874
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:41,759
Speaker 1: a transcendent player. And I think coaches the great greatest

1875
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 1: coach I've ever said, and I said this about Don

1876
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 1: Shula for years and years and one of the great

1877
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:47,759
Speaker 1: all time coaches in NFL history, one more games than anybody.

1878
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 1: His gift as a head coach. From me from the

1879
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 1: outside looking in. I played one game for him in

1880
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. By the way, I was MVP of

1881
01:32:55,880 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 1: the game. Give him some credit. So right, So anyway,

1882
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 1: you know exactly, so you know the thing I get

1883
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 1: about Don Don Shula and guys like Joe Gibbs and

1884
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:10,760
Speaker 1: Don Shula and the great and Marv Levy as well,

1885
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 1: they let their players do only what they do. Bet

1886
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:18,519
Speaker 1: they never asked him to do what they couldn't do.

1887
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:20,640
Speaker 1: You get some of these coaches that are, you know,

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Speaker 1: the old adages. He's trying to fit square pegs into

1889
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Speaker 1: round holes, or round pegs into square holes. These trying

1890
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 1: to get these guys to do things they're not really

1891
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 1: good at. Great coaches don't do that, and as a result,

1892
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 1: sometimes the Miami Dolphins defensively or offensively or what would

1893
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 1: become a little bit predictable because they didn't have guys

1894
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:42,680
Speaker 1: that could stretch the field, or they didn't have a

1895
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 1: good slot receiver, they didn't have a great tight end.

1896
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 1: They didn't care. They were gonna The guys they did

1897
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 1: have were doing what they did really well, and you

1898
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 1: had to defend it, and there were there's only so

1899
01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 1: many things you could do. So that philosophy of using

1900
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:00,680
Speaker 1: your players a little and let them flourish and what

1901
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 1: they do best really serves coaches and that's whole philosophies

1902
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:08,040
Speaker 1: have been built around that. So I you know, as

1903
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 1: far as our Twitter poll goes, that's I'm kind of

1904
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 1: talking myself into saying, you know, whichever guy's best at

1905
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 1: what he does is your most important guy. Don't do that.

1906
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:17,920
Speaker 1: We gotta get another hour on it all right after quarterback?

1907
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 1: What position is the most valuable in the NFL? Joe

1908
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 1: and Niagara Falls has a thought on this. Go ahead, Joe,

1909
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:25,720
Speaker 1: you're on the air with this, Hey, first time, long time?

1910
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 1: Are you doing guys good? Joe? Yeah, I just gotta say,

1911
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 1: if you're not getting it done through the air, where's

1912
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:34,240
Speaker 1: the next place to go? On the ground? And you

1913
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:37,639
Speaker 1: can use the running back running. You know how many

1914
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 1: times you're gonna handle all to a wide receiver. You

1915
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 1: can throw the ball to a running back all the time.

1916
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 1: I just I think that's another highly valuable one. Why

1917
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 1: do you think running backs don't make the kind of

1918
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 1: money that many other positions? To Joe? What do you

1919
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 1: think coaches and decision makers see? But I think that

1920
01:34:55,120 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 1: a big but evolution, Joe, I just think the markets

1921
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:05,639
Speaker 1: two states. I think the markets saturated and they don't

1922
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 1: command the same price. But I don't think that's an

1923
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 1: accurate reflection on how they you know, how they're valued. Yeah,

1924
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 1: that's an interesting If they're easily replaceable, that doesn't make

1925
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:17,599
Speaker 1: them less valuable, I guess. I mean, the only reason

1926
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:20,320
Speaker 1: they're not valuable is not because you don't need a

1927
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 1: really good one or the best one you can find.

1928
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 1: It's just because there's not that much difference from the

1929
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:27,920
Speaker 1: best guys or the elite guys and the guys who

1930
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:30,719
Speaker 1: are just good, you know what I'm saying. And that's

1931
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Speaker 1: the big question. And when you get into the running back,

1932
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think the running backs are

1933
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 1: really important. Running a guy, but we saw a guy

1934
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 1: like Lashawn McCoy last year, who's really good in space

1935
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 1: making guys miss struggle because it was getting no help

1936
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Speaker 1: and that it So it begs the question, how valuable

1937
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:52,880
Speaker 1: can he be when a there's not that much difference

1938
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 1: between the really great ones and just the good ones,

1939
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 1: and be when a guy who's even if he's really good,

1940
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:01,040
Speaker 1: needs so much help from his offensive line. Hey, we'll

1941
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Speaker 1: talk more about this topic in the third and final

1942
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:05,839
Speaker 1: hour of the show, after Quarterback What's the most valuable

1943
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 1: position on an NFL roster? And also next hour, we're

1944
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Speaker 1: going to talk with a longtime veteran offensive lineman in

1945
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Speaker 1: the NFL, Brian Baldinger, now with the NFL Network and

1946
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 1: Fox Sports. He does bald these breakdowns on NFL dot Com.

1947
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Speaker 1: We'll talk with him about this topic and others as well.

1948
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Speaker 1: Come on back an hour ago, One Bill's Life, presented

1949
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Speaker 1: by Collat of Health from One Bill's Drive. This is

1950
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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio, Bills Radio Network Stories, d NFL News.

1951
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Speaker 1: In the update today, Houston Texans linebackers at Avian County

1952
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 1: did not get a new long term deal with the

1953
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:49,519
Speaker 1: Texans by yesterday's deadline. It was four pm yesterday, the

1954
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 1: deadline for players who had been franchised to get a

1955
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:55,839
Speaker 1: new contract a long term contract, so Funny is expected

1956
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 1: to miss most of not all, of training camp. He

1957
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 1: has still not signed his franchise tender worth fifteen point

1958
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:03,960
Speaker 1: nine million dollars for the upcoming season and one year deal,

1959
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:06,599
Speaker 1: and no trade is in the works for Jadevion Clowney either.

1960
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 1: According to ESPN Adam Schefter, the Atlanta Falcons did get

1961
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:13,360
Speaker 1: it done with star defensive tackle Grady Jarrett. They agreed

1962
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:16,280
Speaker 1: in a four year extension yesterday before the four pm deadline.

1963
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 1: Terms not disclose, but the reports are the contracts forwards

1964
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:22,640
Speaker 1: sixty eight million dollars thirty eight million guaranteed. Franchise had

1965
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:24,600
Speaker 1: him till four to get that deal done, and they

1966
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:28,880
Speaker 1: got it done. The Falcons and Dion Jones, agent, meantime,

1967
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 1: scheduled for face to face negotiations in Atlanta. Former Steelers

1968
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:36,640
Speaker 1: and Raiders wide receiver Martavis Bryan, who has been suspended,

1969
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 1: has formally applied to the NFL for reinstatement. According to ESPN,

1970
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:44,600
Speaker 1: he sent an email to league officials Saturday requesting reinstatement

1971
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 1: from an indefinite suspension. The League imposed in December or

1972
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 1: repeated violations of the drug policy. A former fourth round

1973
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 1: pick of the Steelers in twenty fourteen, Martavis Bryan, has

1974
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 1: missed thirty six of a possible eighty regular season games

1975
01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:01,720
Speaker 1: because of that suspension. Hockey news made yesterday by the

1976
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo Sabers. They announced that they've signed forward Dylan Coussens

1977
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 1: to a three year entry level contract. Cousins is their

1978
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:10,720
Speaker 1: first round draft pick, seventh overall last month at the

1979
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen NHL Draft in Vancouver. He has six three,

1980
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:17,040
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty pounds. Finished last season tied for

1981
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:20,800
Speaker 1: tenth among all Western Hockey League skaters with eighty four points.

1982
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:24,240
Speaker 1: Bison olmstand continues tonight. They're home against the Charlotte Knights

1983
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 1: seven oh five, first pitch at Salon Field. Last night,

1984
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:29,799
Speaker 1: Charlotte beat the Bisons nine to seven and ten innings.

1985
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:32,559
Speaker 1: That was game one of this week long homestand left

1986
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 1: hander Ryan Brookie's on the mount for Buffalo tonight, his

1987
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 1: second start for the herb That's the update from One

1988
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:40,640
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. John Murphy and Steve Tasker coming to you

1989
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:43,960
Speaker 1: here from here until three o'clock today. Brian Baldinger of

1990
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 1: NFL NEVERK and Fox Sports coming up in a couple

1991
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 1: of minutes, talk about a variety of topics, including some

1992
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 1: bills notes. Baldy former teammate Is Steep, does a great

1993
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 1: job breaking down video. It's kind of the way a

1994
01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 1: lot of these internet guys are going. And it's pretty good, Steve.

1995
01:38:56,439 --> 01:38:58,479
Speaker 1: When a guy gets good at it, like Baldinger, Yeah,

1996
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:00,880
Speaker 1: and it's it's all about what he see. And certainly

1997
01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 1: you can pick up pick out highlights and other things,

1998
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, just pick the great place

1999
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:11,080
Speaker 1: for every player. But when they go into certain other

2000
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:12,719
Speaker 1: things and they start to give you in the mindset

2001
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:14,680
Speaker 1: of how a defense or an offense works and what

2002
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:16,839
Speaker 1: the guy's being asked to do and what kind of coverages,

2003
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 1: and you get down to some technical things, it's pretty

2004
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 1: fun to have a guy who's been there and knows

2005
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:24,639
Speaker 1: that stuff to break it down for you and see

2006
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:26,680
Speaker 1: where a guy's good and where he's bad. And he

2007
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 1: can show you things consistently where a guy's good and

2008
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 1: what kind of problems he creates. It's kind of fun

2009
01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 1: to watch. It's kind of fun to watch. Well, we'll

2010
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 1: talk with Brian Baldinger coming up. In about ten and

2011
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:39,599
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes or so. This popped up on CBS sports

2012
01:39:40,439 --> 01:39:43,679
Speaker 1: dot com. When was this over the weekend? Like twelve

2013
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 1: top ten head coaches in the NFL. The article written

2014
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 1: by Jared Dubin, but they put together a group involving

2015
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 1: more than ten writers and editors from cbssports dot com.

2016
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:57,639
Speaker 1: They ranked their top ten coaches individual ballots fused into

2017
01:39:57,680 --> 01:40:00,479
Speaker 1: one list using a point system. So it's not Jared

2018
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 1: Dubin's ranking, but it's ten writers at CBS sports dot

2019
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 1: com ranking the top ten head coaches in the NFL.

2020
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 1: I gotta sam surprised because I don't think he gets

2021
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 1: a lot of recognition, But Sean McDermott, Bill's head coach

2022
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:15,839
Speaker 1: is the ninth best head coach in the NFL according

2023
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 1: to this article. They write that even though he's fifteen

2024
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:21,160
Speaker 1: and seventeen, he has earned a lot of respect around

2025
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:24,360
Speaker 1: the league for getting ten ten and six campaign. While

2026
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:26,200
Speaker 1: it was nine and seven out of the roster in

2027
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:29,720
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Bill's offense took a step backward last year,

2028
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:33,000
Speaker 1: they write, with a massive personnel overhaul and quarterbacking done

2029
01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:35,840
Speaker 1: by the rookie, but the defense showed significant strides, and

2030
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:38,360
Speaker 1: that's the side of the ball. McDermott calls home Sean

2031
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:41,360
Speaker 1: McDermott ninth best head coach in the NFL according to

2032
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:43,759
Speaker 1: the CBS Sports dot Com ranking. You go with that, Stephen,

2033
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:46,280
Speaker 1: I am, I am. I mean, you look at the

2034
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:48,160
Speaker 1: name and it comes down to, well, who was ahead

2035
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 1: of him? Well, you guys who've won Super Bowls like

2036
01:40:50,240 --> 01:40:58,080
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh, Doug Peterson, Pete Carroll, Sean Payton, and Bill Belichick.

2037
01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 1: And then others who have not won Super Bowls ahead

2038
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 1: of him like Andy Reid. Who is you know who's

2039
01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:04,400
Speaker 1: acknowledged as one of the great head coach who've never

2040
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:07,240
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl? Ave always been to one Sean McVay,

2041
01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 1: the guy who has really taken the league. And these

2042
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:15,719
Speaker 1: kind of head coach evaluations by storm Pete Carroll, I'm sorry,

2043
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 1: not just Pete Carroll already said Frank Reich, who is

2044
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:20,559
Speaker 1: who got as a first year head coach, went from

2045
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:23,640
Speaker 1: an O and five start to rally that team and

2046
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:26,559
Speaker 1: get him into the playoffs. And of course John Harbaugh

2047
01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:30,439
Speaker 1: is also there, so's there's some really he's in some

2048
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:32,599
Speaker 1: really good company. I think he deserves to be there,

2049
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:35,559
Speaker 1: and you know, there's gonna be Bills fans and people

2050
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:41,400
Speaker 1: outside Bill's fandom, they're gonna poop who his selection as

2051
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:43,160
Speaker 1: a top ten coach in the NFL. But if you

2052
01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 1: look at the totality of his three years here, what

2053
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 1: he got out of his club in that first season,

2054
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:51,400
Speaker 1: and what they did, what they were able to do,

2055
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:53,639
Speaker 1: there's no question this is a team that's on the rise,

2056
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:55,519
Speaker 1: and it's on this way back. I think the surprising

2057
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:57,640
Speaker 1: thing about this he's ahead of Mike Tomlin. Well, I

2058
01:41:57,680 --> 01:41:59,160
Speaker 1: was gonna say, you said who's ahead of him? But

2059
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 1: how about who's behind to Mike Tomlin is ranked tenth.

2060
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:04,720
Speaker 1: McDermott ranked ninth. Tomlin has won a Super Bowl with

2061
01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:08,439
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers and ranked tenth in this ranking, which

2062
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:10,479
Speaker 1: I think might surprise the people. They go to the

2063
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:13,640
Speaker 1: playoffs a lot of his twelve seasons they've been in

2064
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:16,439
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And Sean McDermott is ranked ahead of him.

2065
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:19,800
Speaker 1: Harbaugh the Ravens ranked eighth. Let's go through him real quick.

2066
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 1: Bad You tell me if you think they're about where

2067
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 1: they belong or should be high or lower. Frank Right

2068
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:28,639
Speaker 1: ranked seventh as the seventh best head coach in the league. Look,

2069
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:32,200
Speaker 1: we love Frank, right, that's a little high, I think, yeah,

2070
01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:35,400
Speaker 1: I think after just one year. Yeah, with that attle

2071
01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:38,840
Speaker 1: and walking in with Andrew luck healthy, you know, I

2072
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:40,840
Speaker 1: think he's a little bit of the flavor of the month. Yeah,

2073
01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 1: you know, he's a great coach, no question about it.

2074
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:44,720
Speaker 1: And I think he's going to continue to be successful.

2075
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 1: I don't know that you've seen enough of him to

2076
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:50,080
Speaker 1: put him that high. Six. Doug Peterson of the Eagles,

2077
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:53,679
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. He won a Super Bowl in Philly. Yeah,

2078
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:57,280
Speaker 1: where they for the first time ever, they boot Santa Clause.

2079
01:42:57,320 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna say that, you know. I mean

2080
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 1: it's a it is a franchise that has struggled down.

2081
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 1: They did really well under Andy Reidon on their name

2082
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:06,880
Speaker 1: on this list, but when he ran his tenure, it

2083
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 1: ran his course. They bring Doug Peterson. He did it

2084
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 1: in this what's first or second year? I mean, yeah, okay,

2085
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:14,960
Speaker 1: so yeah, he deserves it. Here's an interesting one. I

2086
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 1: think Pete Carroll ranked fifth. Listen to this and you

2087
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:21,479
Speaker 1: know this, but when you hear it, under Pete Carroll,

2088
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:26,120
Speaker 1: Seattle has won four Division titles, nine playoff games, two

2089
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:29,760
Speaker 1: NFC championships and a Super Bowl. Maybe five is too

2090
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 1: low for Pete Carroll, right, Yeah, I mean, seriously, I

2091
01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 1: agree he deserves to be a top five coach, particularly

2092
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:38,960
Speaker 1: in the current in the current era of history. He's

2093
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:41,400
Speaker 1: he is an outstanding coach and has been I think

2094
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:43,880
Speaker 1: the thing the two and you see the totality of it,

2095
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 1: not just from this present moment, but in every level

2096
01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:50,320
Speaker 1: of football he's been successful. You can say what you

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Speaker 1: want about his time at USC and the way it

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Speaker 1: ended and the controversies and all that, but man, the

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Speaker 1: guy wins football games. So yeah, I agree he should be.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I think he should be a little hig

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Speaker 1: this because the guy at number four, Sean McVay, Well,

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Speaker 1: this goes to your point about flavor of the month,

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Speaker 1: and look McVeagh has done it. Look Sean McVay. This

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Speaker 1: is the CBS Sports dot Com Top ten NFL coaches rank,

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott number nine. Sean m McVay is four two years,

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Speaker 1: twenty four wins, eight losses, two NFC West titles, went

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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. Is he a better coach than

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll? That's kind of hard to say. I'll say

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Speaker 1: this though, I'll say this though he has come a

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Speaker 1: long way. I mean, he took over a club that

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Speaker 1: was it was not good under Jeff Fisher with a

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Speaker 1: quarterback that was a bust. He assembled a staff with

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Speaker 1: Wade Phillips and some older guys on it that he

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Speaker 1: was very you know, showed some real leadership in doing that,

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Speaker 1: and he he deserves all the coups he's gotten. He

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Speaker 1: did a lot of good things that not every young

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Speaker 1: head coach is smart enough to do. So yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about ahead of Pete Carroll, but still

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton third. This one I think is ranked too

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Speaker 1: high and we don't want to spend too much time

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Speaker 1: amount up with Andy Reid. See the second best head

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Speaker 1: coach in the NFL. Oh, he's pretty good. None as

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Speaker 1: he's up there top five. Yeah, he's the second best

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Speaker 1: in the league. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, we know

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Speaker 1: it was number one, right. It's worth looking at top

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Speaker 1: ten head coaches in the NFL on CBS dot Com,

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Speaker 1: with Sean McDermot number nine. That's how I'm gonna remember

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Speaker 1: about this entire conversation right there. Well, you need more

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Speaker 1: of that on the line with us right now. A

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01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 1: guy who does his work for NFL Network. Great work

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Speaker 1: breaking down video. He is a box sports NFL analysts.

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Speaker 1: Played eleven seasons in the NFL as an offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: with Dallas, the Colts, and the Eagles. A couple of

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Speaker 1: coffee here with the Buffalo Bills. Frequent quest guests on

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Speaker 1: the show have it to have him? Brian Baldinger on

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Speaker 1: the line with us. Hello Brian, John Murphy, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 1: up here in Buffalo, Thanks for joining us. Yeah, hello John, Steve,

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Speaker 1: gonna be with you guys man. How y'all doing. We're

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Speaker 1: doing great? Great, Ready for camp about a week and

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Speaker 1: a half away. You've done a lot of video breakdowns,

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Speaker 1: including a pretty incisive and complimentary breakdown of Bills now

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Speaker 1: second year linebacker Tremaine Edmonds. What do you see from him?

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Speaker 1: What do you like about him? Well, he's got a

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Speaker 1: tremendous president. I mean obviously his size alone, uh you know,

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Speaker 1: and then you combine that with uh, you know, with

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Speaker 1: with you know, elite speed. I always think that if

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Speaker 1: your middle linebackers faster, defense looks faster. I think he was,

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Speaker 1: you know, a guy that just got better the more

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Speaker 1: he saw as the season went on. But he got

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Speaker 1: his hands in a lot of footballs. I mean he

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Speaker 1: led the team and he passed his defense. He led

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Speaker 1: the team and tackles um you know. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: finds the football and he does a lot of different ways.

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01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:33,880
Speaker 1: I expect that Sean and Leslie this year will will

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01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:36,760
Speaker 1: use him their variety of other ways. I affect him,

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Speaker 1: see him blitz him more this year, get him, you know,

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Speaker 1: get him on back in past protection because he just

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Speaker 1: runs guys over. I mean, he just uses his sheer,

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Speaker 1: you know, force and size. So I just thought a

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Speaker 1: lot of great things, you know too, for a guy

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Speaker 1: that's still twenty years old. I mean he's not twenty

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Speaker 1: one years old. He just turned twenty one in May.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's just I can't really even fathom, you know,

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Speaker 1: being that young and being that big. It's that physical

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Speaker 1: and really that talented so early. We just don't see

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Speaker 1: NFL players come in at that age and play at

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Speaker 1: this level very often, if that ever at all. Brand

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Speaker 1: maybe it's because of his size, but over the course

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Speaker 1: of this offseason, some have suggested that maybe Tremaine Edmonds

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Speaker 1: belongs at outside linebacker. What do you see? Does that

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Speaker 1: make any sense to you well. I mean he's been

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Speaker 1: an inside linebacker, you know, a Virginia tactic. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know why you necessarily want to change that, you know,

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Speaker 1: he I'm sure he you know. I like a lot

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Speaker 1: of players. I mean Bryan or Lacker went from a

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Speaker 1: strong side linebacker a middle linebacker became a Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame player. I mean, guys do switch positions, but I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't see any reason for him to change the position.

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Speaker 1: I mean the foreman front and I think off the

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Speaker 1: ball inside that a mic linebacker spot. I think it's

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Speaker 1: just fine for him. I mean, can he do all

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Speaker 1: the mental gymnastics that you need to do with that position?

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Speaker 1: I mean, only you know Hammy and Leslie and they

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Speaker 1: showed him might know. But he didn't look like he

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Speaker 1: was getting lost out there very much in the last

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Speaker 1: month of the season, where he had forty tackles, you know,

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Speaker 1: and you know, it was pretty dominant here down the stretch. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: One of the things about him, and the first thing

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Speaker 1: you notice when you watch him on film and when

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Speaker 1: you watch him and see him in person, he's just

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Speaker 1: got such length. He's so tall, he's got such a wingspan,

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Speaker 1: and you you really break it down nice on your

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Speaker 1: on your Twitter posts where you show him on film

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Speaker 1: and even on film, I mean standing next to Matt

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Speaker 1: Milano and a lot of a lot of the cut

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Speaker 1: ups and he's just massive his wingspan and his height.

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Speaker 1: You can just see the quarterback I mean a couple

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Speaker 1: of them. Brady's trying to look him off and he

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Speaker 1: still has the length and the range to knock down

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Speaker 1: a lot of passes. And having a big body, even

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Speaker 1: in an NFL setting where everybody's big, having a wingspan

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Speaker 1: in a body who can move that fast and run

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Speaker 1: around really puts a crimp in a passing game and

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Speaker 1: gets in the quarterbacks vision. And he paid dividends in

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Speaker 1: all the tipped balls he had. Yeah, and a little steve.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if you look at a lot

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Speaker 1: of the analytics that are coming into the NFL and

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Speaker 1: we're evaluating these players length, you know, whether it's Darius

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Speaker 1: Leonards in Indianapolis his online for Darwin James and his

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Speaker 1: length or you know, Tremaine Edmond is I mean, length

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Speaker 1: is a big factor right now. It's it's kind of

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Speaker 1: position with football. It's a little bit like Golden State

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Speaker 1: basketball right now. And you know, the more you can

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Speaker 1: get in a league where you know, teams are passing

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Speaker 1: in sixty sixty five percent of the time, When you

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Speaker 1: can get into passing lanes into flec balls or alter

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Speaker 1: the course of a football, it's huge, I mean, and

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Speaker 1: it doesn't have to you know, you don't only have

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Speaker 1: to do it once or twice a game. And he

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Speaker 1: can out, you know, can really alter the outcome of

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Speaker 1: the game. He clearly altered, you know, the the trajectory

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Speaker 1: of a lot of passes. And it wasn't you know,

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Speaker 1: Blake Portals. I mean, it was Tom Brady, it was

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodd. He was affecting a lot of elite players

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Speaker 1: throws over the middle of the field, and he got

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Speaker 1: his hands on a lot of footballs. I mean cat

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Speaker 1: two in his sections last year, but he probably had

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Speaker 1: his hands on six or seven where you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you just you keep working on the on the gun

2230
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Speaker 1: at the end of practice, you keep working on your hands,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna come down with even more of those. And

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Speaker 1: so I expect that this is just the beginning that

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Speaker 1: we're going to see a big leap this year. In

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Speaker 1: the second year. Most most players, their biggest leap is

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Speaker 1: between that first and second year, and I think we're

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Speaker 1: going to see a lot more of it this year

2237
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Speaker 1: on the line with Brian Baldinger. He does bald these

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Speaker 1: breakdowns on NFL dot Com. He is a radio dot

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Speaker 1: Com Sports NFL insider. Another guy going into his second year,

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Speaker 1: another first round pick of the Bills, quarterback Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: who you describe as an elite athlete. What kind of

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Speaker 1: a what kind of a leap do you expect to

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01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:55,719
Speaker 1: see from him in his second year on the roster? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean I thought he played behind, you know, one

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Speaker 1: of the worst offensive line in football last year. And

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Speaker 1: now whether that you know, forced him to take off

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Speaker 1: like he did last year, I mean he led the league,

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Speaker 1: He led the team in Russian, so you know, nothing

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Speaker 1: not saying anything away from you know, Shandy McCoy did

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Speaker 1: not have a good year, but behind that offensive line,

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Speaker 1: you lead the team in Russian, you run for over

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Speaker 1: seven yards to carry and eight touchdowns. I mean, you'd

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Speaker 1: like to see him run less than throw more and

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Speaker 1: throw at a higher percentage, and I think he's capable

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Speaker 1: of doing that. I've seen a lot of quarterbacks go

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Speaker 1: from ten touchdowns all the interceptions in their first year

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Speaker 1: and they're trying to figure everything out, and they're trying

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Speaker 1: to rebuild an offensive line. You know, they're not very

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Speaker 1: good up front to you know, going eighteen in eighty

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Speaker 1: the next year, you know, and I think you could

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Speaker 1: see eighteen to twenty touchdowns from Josh this year, you know,

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Speaker 1: if he just throws the more, I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's a new offensive line coach dow way of doing

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Speaker 1: things beyond doctors are going into his third year, They've

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Speaker 1: upgraded the talent. I think in some spots I can see,

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Speaker 1: you know, Josh making that lead in the pass game.

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01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:01,960
Speaker 1: I think the ability to pull the ball down and

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Speaker 1: run like we saw him just destroy the Miami Dolphins

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Speaker 1: last year amongst other teams, and I think that ability

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Speaker 1: is still there. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: you don't want him leading your league, your team and rushing.

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Speaker 1: You want to see him, you know, third fourth of

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Speaker 1: the team. That's that's the Seattle last year they went

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Speaker 1: from having you know, your quarterback go from leading the

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Speaker 1: team and rushing the year before to you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: putting the team in the playoffs and throwing the ball

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Speaker 1: a lot better than he did. And so I think

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Speaker 1: that's really what's to be expected from Josh this year.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking for, you know, seeing the pocket

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Speaker 1: for trust to protection, have better protection and make the

2281
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 1: throws even if it's just checkdowns and you know it's

2282
01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:46,000
Speaker 1: just throws where guys could do the last stuff after

2283
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:48,680
Speaker 1: the catch. Yeah, we've been talking. We've had a conversation

2284
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Speaker 1: all day today about what's the most after a quarterback position,

2285
01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:54,479
Speaker 1: what's the most valuable spot on what's the most valuable

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Speaker 1: position on a football team? And I'm gonna put it

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Speaker 1: to you, Baldi, and after the quarterback, what's the most

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01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:04,719
Speaker 1: valuable position on your football team? It's the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's those five guys. I mean, you're not

2290
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:10,680
Speaker 1: gonna get to the playoffs without a good group. You're

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01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:14,200
Speaker 1: not gonna, you know, find a wildcard spot, being the

2292
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:16,559
Speaker 1: hunt for a wildcard spot without a good group upfront.

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01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:19,040
Speaker 1: And so you know, we'll see if Cody Ford can

2294
01:53:19,120 --> 01:53:21,880
Speaker 1: come in and you know, lockdown that right tackle spot

2295
01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:24,559
Speaker 1: and upgrade it, you know, and see if Mitch Moore's

2296
01:53:24,640 --> 01:53:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, coming from Kansas City, can upgrade the center position.

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Speaker 1: I mean, those are two key spots. Right, there's a question,

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01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:32,320
Speaker 1: right now of you know, how quickly can they gel

2299
01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:35,840
Speaker 1: come together? But you know, to see Shady go down,

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Speaker 1: you know, in rushing the way he did last year,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think he's ready for that type

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Speaker 1: of a dramatic tall off. But I was surprised if

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01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:46,280
Speaker 1: the Bills found a way to win six games last

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Speaker 1: year just looking at the offensive line in August a

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01:53:49,479 --> 01:53:52,280
Speaker 1: year ago. And so I think they're going to prove

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01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:54,920
Speaker 1: a great deal there. And if they do, I mean

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01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:57,000
Speaker 1: this is a team that can play five hundred football

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01:53:57,080 --> 01:53:59,240
Speaker 1: or better if they can improve in that spot. But

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01:53:59,320 --> 01:54:02,320
Speaker 1: to answer your question, steves, the offensive lines the second

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01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:05,639
Speaker 1: most important position behind the quarterback. Well, we got talking

2311
01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:08,960
Speaker 1: about this because you know, we took note of Melvin

2312
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:11,759
Speaker 1: Gordon out west with the Chargers and his contract demands

2313
01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:15,000
Speaker 1: and and you know what goes on with running backs

2314
01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:17,639
Speaker 1: and maybe how they've been devalued. What do you think

2315
01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:20,160
Speaker 1: the Bills have a lot of money invested in Lashawn McCoy?

2316
01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:23,280
Speaker 1: Is that smart? In today's NFL? Do running backs still

2317
01:54:23,320 --> 01:54:26,760
Speaker 1: have that kind of value? Well? I think they do.

2318
01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:29,679
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the Patriots invested in the first

2319
01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:32,360
Speaker 1: round pick, you know it running back, and he paid

2320
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:34,200
Speaker 1: off and he had a great Super Bowl and was

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01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:37,560
Speaker 1: a big part of them winning that game. I feel

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01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:40,760
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon is as good as dual threat running back

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01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:45,400
Speaker 1: for what can say the Chargers do out there. It's

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01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:47,360
Speaker 1: just about anybody. I mean, he's a big, big fit

2325
01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:48,880
Speaker 1: for what they do. And I know he's just a

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01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:51,080
Speaker 1: month of the season they won all four games about him.

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01:54:51,680 --> 01:54:55,400
Speaker 1: But if you ask Philip Rivers how valuable Melvin Gordon is,

2328
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:57,400
Speaker 1: he'll tell you that it's really valuable. He's got a

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01:54:58,040 --> 01:55:00,720
Speaker 1: he's the only he's coached by the only form of

2330
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:03,480
Speaker 1: running back to be a head coach in this league.

2331
01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:06,000
Speaker 1: And I think the empty linn has really helped Melvin

2332
01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:08,840
Speaker 1: Gordon a great deal. But you know, whether it's Jaw

2333
01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:13,160
Speaker 1: Clowney right now or Melvin Gordon hold now, you only

2334
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:16,680
Speaker 1: get certain certain times in your whole career where you can,

2335
01:55:17,400 --> 01:55:20,000
Speaker 1: you know, really get a payday. You know, sometimes it's

2336
01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:22,320
Speaker 1: just free agency, and sometimes you just gotta say, you

2337
01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:25,880
Speaker 1: know what, um, the only the only leverage I have

2338
01:55:26,040 --> 01:55:28,680
Speaker 1: is to withhold my services and I'll take my chances

2339
01:55:28,760 --> 01:55:31,080
Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens to both guys. I don't

2340
01:55:31,120 --> 01:55:32,880
Speaker 1: expect a deal to be done for either one, to

2341
01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:35,560
Speaker 1: be honest with you, just because the money has kind

2342
01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 1: of dried up um and they under contract, So I

2343
01:55:39,120 --> 01:55:41,680
Speaker 1: don't think anything is gonna get done. But that's that's

2344
01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:43,680
Speaker 1: the statement they're making right now. But I don't think

2345
01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 1: either player is going to do what Levin Bell did.

2346
01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:50,320
Speaker 1: What do you think about Jadeveon Clowney not signing a

2347
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:52,680
Speaker 1: long term deal with the Houston Texas. He's probably the

2348
01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:58,320
Speaker 1: most maybe the most productive defensive player out there, who

2349
01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:01,440
Speaker 1: is you know, maybe getting gonna get franchise. Is he

2350
01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:03,200
Speaker 1: going to get a long term deal with the Texans?

2351
01:56:03,240 --> 01:56:06,160
Speaker 1: And if he hits a free agency is he going

2352
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:08,120
Speaker 1: to hit a home He will hit a home run

2353
01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:13,360
Speaker 1: unless they pay him other game he's gonna see. I mean,

2354
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:15,760
Speaker 1: I thought after twelve weeks last year, Steve that he

2355
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:18,360
Speaker 1: was he could have easily been the defensive player of

2356
01:56:18,400 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 1: the year. He was just that disruptive and it wasn't

2357
01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:24,000
Speaker 1: just sacked numbers, and he's just the way that the

2358
01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:27,800
Speaker 1: defense were responded. And uh, you know how Romeo Carnell

2359
01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:31,520
Speaker 1: allowed him to do certain things just freelance, just destroy plays.

2360
01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:35,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he was just a human wrecking ball. I

2361
01:56:35,240 --> 01:56:37,160
Speaker 1: don't know what Tuston's plans are. They if I are

2362
01:56:37,200 --> 01:56:40,200
Speaker 1: their general manager, they got to get a deal done.

2363
01:56:40,240 --> 01:56:42,840
Speaker 1: I mean he is, he is an elite athlete. He

2364
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:46,720
Speaker 1: changes the way the game is played. You know, him

2365
01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:49,560
Speaker 1: and JJ together are as good as tandem getting after

2366
01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:52,400
Speaker 1: the quarterback as anybody in the business right now. So

2367
01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:55,320
Speaker 1: I expect them to get a deal done. I don't

2368
01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:58,400
Speaker 1: know without a general manager, how you know who's in

2369
01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:01,320
Speaker 1: charge of its Brian BILLI O'Brien right now or whoever.

2370
01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:04,880
Speaker 1: But I think that the Houston texts you make a

2371
01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:08,920
Speaker 1: huge mistake, huge mistake if they ever allowed to Devin

2372
01:57:09,080 --> 01:57:12,600
Speaker 1: Clowney to get to free agency and the line with

2373
01:57:12,680 --> 01:57:16,120
Speaker 1: Brian Baldinger and Radio dot Com Sports NFL Insider, I

2374
01:57:16,200 --> 01:57:18,280
Speaker 1: want to a little bit of NFL news from a

2375
01:57:18,280 --> 01:57:20,680
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, when the Jets lost their tight

2376
01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:23,920
Speaker 1: end Chris Herndon for the first four games, including the

2377
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:26,280
Speaker 1: opener against Buffalo. You think that's a big loss, right

2378
01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:28,640
Speaker 1: You consider Herndon maybe the most underrated tight end in

2379
01:57:28,640 --> 01:57:31,840
Speaker 1: the NFL. Well, I don't know if he's the most

2380
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:33,560
Speaker 1: underrated tight end. I mean that's what they have, the

2381
01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:35,880
Speaker 1: headlines they put on that, But you know, I thought

2382
01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:39,240
Speaker 1: that he had the best chemistry was Sam Darnold last year,

2383
01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:44,120
Speaker 1: and just watching a couple of OTAs this year and

2384
01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:47,240
Speaker 1: just watching his hands and some of the plays that

2385
01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:50,600
Speaker 1: he made this past spring, and I think the trust

2386
01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:53,960
Speaker 1: Sam has in him, I think that's where, you know,

2387
01:57:54,040 --> 01:57:56,680
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be really valuable. I you know,

2388
01:57:56,760 --> 01:57:59,480
Speaker 1: I just quarterbacks just love big tight ends in the

2389
01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:02,760
Speaker 1: middle field. They like big bodies. They like guys that

2390
01:58:02,840 --> 01:58:05,040
Speaker 1: have big wings, fans. They like guys that are pretty

2391
01:58:05,080 --> 01:58:07,880
Speaker 1: fearless over the middle where defenses are pretty helpless to

2392
01:58:07,960 --> 01:58:10,960
Speaker 1: sort of you know, bang them around and really too

2393
01:58:11,040 --> 01:58:12,800
Speaker 1: much to them these days with the way the rules

2394
01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:15,600
Speaker 1: have changed. So they're real valuable people in the middle

2395
01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:17,400
Speaker 1: of the field. You could see it, especially the last

2396
01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:20,600
Speaker 1: month of the season, Herndon and Donald, they had really

2397
01:58:20,680 --> 01:58:23,200
Speaker 1: good chemistry. And so I think it's gonna be a

2398
01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:26,120
Speaker 1: real loss or the Unyork Jets. That first month of

2399
01:58:26,200 --> 01:58:28,240
Speaker 1: the season. I was gonna ask you one more thing,

2400
01:58:28,320 --> 01:58:30,400
Speaker 1: Baldi about a team out west of forty nine ers

2401
01:58:30,440 --> 01:58:33,400
Speaker 1: and we had a conversation about their quarterback, Jimmy Garoppolo

2402
01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:35,640
Speaker 1: being maybe a shoe in for the comeback player of

2403
01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:37,920
Speaker 1: the year if he plays well this season after losing

2404
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:41,600
Speaker 1: an entire last season. But how important is this season

2405
01:58:41,720 --> 01:58:43,600
Speaker 1: for the forty nine ers? Are they all in to

2406
01:58:43,720 --> 01:58:47,400
Speaker 1: win it or go home? Well, they have to make

2407
01:58:47,640 --> 01:58:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean they have to be in the playoff hunt.

2408
01:58:49,200 --> 01:58:52,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I said yesterday, you know that anything less

2409
01:58:52,840 --> 01:58:55,320
Speaker 1: than ten wins would be a huge disappointment. They have

2410
01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:59,920
Speaker 1: been acquiring and accumulating the high level talent, whether it's

2411
01:59:00,160 --> 01:59:03,080
Speaker 1: free agency or high picks, for three straight years in

2412
01:59:03,120 --> 01:59:06,320
Speaker 1: a row. You know, either Kyle Shandingham could put this

2413
01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:08,400
Speaker 1: together or they can't. I mean, they let in the

2414
01:59:08,520 --> 01:59:11,920
Speaker 1: league last year in turnovers. I mean, nobody fumbled the

2415
01:59:11,960 --> 01:59:13,400
Speaker 1: ball more than the forty nine or so. I mean,

2416
01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:15,440
Speaker 1: it's not just talent, it's the way that they played.

2417
01:59:16,280 --> 01:59:19,720
Speaker 1: And so they've got the sloppy play that they demonstrated

2418
01:59:19,720 --> 01:59:21,960
Speaker 1: a year ago was not because of insurance. It's just

2419
01:59:22,080 --> 01:59:26,040
Speaker 1: sloppy play. And so they have more than enough talent

2420
01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:29,080
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. They could compete with both Seattle

2421
01:59:29,160 --> 01:59:32,440
Speaker 1: and the Rams, you know, in that division. They just

2422
01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:34,960
Speaker 1: have to do it now. And so you know, whether

2423
01:59:35,080 --> 01:59:38,040
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo or play sixteen games or not, this has

2424
01:59:38,080 --> 01:59:41,360
Speaker 1: to be a playoff push team this year or I

2425
01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:43,560
Speaker 1: think it's just going to be a major disappointment. I

2426
01:59:43,640 --> 01:59:45,600
Speaker 1: mean I would be if I was in that forty

2427
01:59:45,680 --> 01:59:49,240
Speaker 1: nine organization. Maybe less than ten wins would be just

2428
01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:52,520
Speaker 1: devastating to me. Brian, We thank you for this. We

2429
01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:55,760
Speaker 1: enjoy your work, especially all these breakdowns on NFL dot

2430
01:59:55,800 --> 01:59:57,480
Speaker 1: Com when you really do get into the nuts and

2431
01:59:57,520 --> 01:59:59,720
Speaker 1: bolts of it. Thanks for joining us today. We appreciate

2432
01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:04,400
Speaker 1: it my pleasure. John, take care. Thanks. Ryan Baldinger, NFL Network,

2433
02:00:04,480 --> 02:00:07,320
Speaker 1: Fox Sports NFL Analysts. He is a radio dot Com

2434
02:00:07,440 --> 02:00:10,480
Speaker 1: Sports NFL insider, joining us on the line. Check out

2435
02:00:10,520 --> 02:00:13,320
Speaker 1: the stuff on NFL Network, especially stuff about the Bills

2436
02:00:13,320 --> 02:00:15,000
Speaker 1: about Tremine Edmonds, a lot of good things to say

2437
02:00:15,040 --> 02:00:17,360
Speaker 1: about him taking a breakcare coming back with more. One

2438
02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:20,120
Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Collat of Health from One Bill's

2439
02:00:20,200 --> 02:00:35,680
Speaker 1: Drive on Buffalo Bill's RADI. Welcome back, One Bill's Live

2440
02:00:35,800 --> 02:00:38,240
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy, Steve Tasker, you're until

2441
02:00:38,520 --> 02:00:41,080
Speaker 1: three o'clock today tomorrow. Steve, are you a maddened player?

2442
02:00:41,160 --> 02:00:43,720
Speaker 1: Have you ever been a maddened player? No? No, MENI

2443
02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:45,360
Speaker 1: now a lot of people are a lot of people

2444
02:00:45,880 --> 02:00:48,440
Speaker 1: feel is it faded in the popularity somewhat. I don't

2445
02:00:48,440 --> 02:00:51,360
Speaker 1: think so. I don't think so. Because Madden twenty is out.

2446
02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:55,200
Speaker 1: Bills get varying grades. I don't think there's anybody's gonna

2447
02:00:55,200 --> 02:00:57,640
Speaker 1: blow you away with their grade from the Buffalo Bills.

2448
02:00:58,080 --> 02:01:00,400
Speaker 1: But we're gonna talk to one of the developers, Clint Oldenburg.

2449
02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:01,880
Speaker 1: We had him on the show last year, I believe

2450
02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:05,000
Speaker 1: maybe two years ago. Former NFL player who helps her

2451
02:01:05,080 --> 02:01:08,560
Speaker 1: develop the Maddened twenty game, helped develop him. Yeah, talk

2452
02:01:08,560 --> 02:01:10,800
Speaker 1: about how these ratings come about. Some of the reaction.

2453
02:01:10,880 --> 02:01:14,080
Speaker 1: I guess Tradevius White had a reaction to it, right.

2454
02:01:14,160 --> 02:01:16,600
Speaker 1: He was on NFL Network this morning. I believe we

2455
02:01:16,720 --> 02:01:20,520
Speaker 1: have that TuS White uh talked about his player rating

2456
02:01:20,600 --> 02:01:24,120
Speaker 1: for Madden twenty and he was what he had to say.

2457
02:01:26,560 --> 02:01:28,880
Speaker 1: I did. But I'm not a I'm not a big

2458
02:01:29,160 --> 02:01:32,120
Speaker 1: big guy into video games. I don't really play video games.

2459
02:01:32,160 --> 02:01:35,240
Speaker 1: But uh, I feel like they robbed us on a

2460
02:01:35,480 --> 02:01:38,400
Speaker 1: on a on a lot of all guys. Man. I mean,

2461
02:01:38,680 --> 02:01:40,320
Speaker 1: look at Michael Hyde. I feel like he should be

2462
02:01:40,360 --> 02:01:42,000
Speaker 1: in the nineties. He's one of the best sages in

2463
02:01:42,040 --> 02:01:45,040
Speaker 1: the game. From the last the last two years. Him

2464
02:01:45,080 --> 02:01:47,840
Speaker 1: and join to day. I pretty much think those guys

2465
02:01:47,880 --> 02:01:50,560
Speaker 1: are the best safety duel in the NFL if you

2466
02:01:50,680 --> 02:01:53,160
Speaker 1: just look at the novels and look at the way

2467
02:01:53,200 --> 02:01:55,560
Speaker 1: that those guys take the ball away. And then we

2468
02:01:55,680 --> 02:01:58,240
Speaker 1: got Sad at the eighty two, which is which is

2469
02:01:58,360 --> 02:02:00,800
Speaker 1: very disrespectful, and then you got Josh Ellen at a

2470
02:02:00,880 --> 02:02:04,120
Speaker 1: seventy four. Man, it's something that uh, you know, those

2471
02:02:04,160 --> 02:02:06,200
Speaker 1: guys are gonna pretty much gonna take. You know, I

2472
02:02:06,280 --> 02:02:07,880
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, just taking it to the season.

2473
02:02:07,920 --> 02:02:10,200
Speaker 1: That's e's the motivation that we need to get the

2474
02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:14,240
Speaker 1: pretty much get the acknowledging that you deserve. Well, this

2475
02:02:14,360 --> 02:02:16,720
Speaker 1: wasn't living about it, but sticking up for his teammates.

2476
02:02:16,720 --> 02:02:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm all right with that. Well, and let's face it,

2477
02:02:19,000 --> 02:02:21,720
Speaker 1: it's a video game. I mean, I mean, it's not

2478
02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:23,960
Speaker 1: like they're what do you mean, it's not really Yeah,

2479
02:02:24,160 --> 02:02:29,200
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. I don't mean anything it means some people

2480
02:02:29,280 --> 02:02:31,400
Speaker 1: think it does. We'll talk like Clinton Holdenberg, who has

2481
02:02:31,440 --> 02:02:33,080
Speaker 1: made it his life's work. You're gonna say that to

2482
02:02:33,200 --> 02:02:37,760
Speaker 1: him tomorrow. Listen, video game. It's a video game, but listen,

2483
02:02:38,280 --> 02:02:40,560
Speaker 1: it's the same thing. I mean, he's got skinning the

2484
02:02:40,640 --> 02:02:45,120
Speaker 1: game right. So yeah, so for him, it's it should

2485
02:02:45,160 --> 02:02:47,120
Speaker 1: be important. It is important. So there you go. He'll

2486
02:02:47,160 --> 02:02:48,760
Speaker 1: join us tomorrow on the show All Right Time Now

2487
02:02:48,840 --> 02:02:51,640
Speaker 1: for NFL. True and False brought to you by Yancey's

2488
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Speaker 1: Fancy New York's artists and cheese. Are you ready to go?

2489
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Speaker 1: And this is not what's for lunch? By the way,

2490
02:02:57,120 --> 02:02:59,840
Speaker 1: this is true and false Peyton Manning. This is a

2491
02:03:00,280 --> 02:03:02,680
Speaker 1: a post on CBS sports dot Com. Over the weekend,

2492
02:03:02,720 --> 02:03:06,240
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning refused a Monday Night Football deal It'll be

2493
02:03:06,280 --> 02:03:08,120
Speaker 1: the color man on Monday Night Football, because he did

2494
02:03:08,200 --> 02:03:12,200
Speaker 1: not want to criticize his brother Eli. True false. I

2495
02:03:12,320 --> 02:03:14,360
Speaker 1: want to say false, right. I'm sure he had a

2496
02:03:14,480 --> 02:03:16,880
Speaker 1: number of reasons. I read some of them. He talked

2497
02:03:16,880 --> 02:03:19,640
Speaker 1: to Peter King about it. Yeah, Eli is part of it,

2498
02:03:19,680 --> 02:03:21,280
Speaker 1: I guess, But I think it's more about does he

2499
02:03:21,360 --> 02:03:24,040
Speaker 1: want to criticize any of the guys that he played

2500
02:03:24,080 --> 02:03:26,800
Speaker 1: with or teammates or friends. He's not. Look, he doesn't

2501
02:03:26,840 --> 02:03:29,040
Speaker 1: need to. He's doing what's gonna look like a really

2502
02:03:29,120 --> 02:03:32,360
Speaker 1: special series coming up on ESPN, right Peyton's Places. Have

2503
02:03:32,440 --> 02:03:34,400
Speaker 1: you seen some of the highlights of that? Doesn't need

2504
02:03:34,440 --> 02:03:36,240
Speaker 1: to do Monday Night football, so he turned it down.

2505
02:03:36,320 --> 02:03:39,080
Speaker 1: But I think it's false, and I think it's probably

2506
02:03:39,160 --> 02:03:41,440
Speaker 1: true along with, like you said, a lot of other things.

2507
02:03:41,520 --> 02:03:43,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it's one of the contributing factors. He does

2508
02:03:43,600 --> 02:03:45,160
Speaker 1: not want to be in the booth and have to

2509
02:03:45,200 --> 02:03:47,880
Speaker 1: go into production meetings and talk to his brother Eli,

2510
02:03:48,920 --> 02:03:51,440
Speaker 1: and particularly in the midst of what could be the

2511
02:03:52,120 --> 02:03:55,040
Speaker 1: beginning of, or right in the midst of, or the

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Speaker 1: true meaning of the twilight of his brother's career. Eli

2513
02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:01,880
Speaker 1: takes a lot of criticism in New York. You know,

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02:04:01,920 --> 02:04:03,840
Speaker 1: if he's on Monday Night football, the Giants are gonna

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02:04:03,880 --> 02:04:07,880
Speaker 1: be on at least once, probably twice during the football season,

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02:04:09,240 --> 02:04:11,480
Speaker 1: and there is something to be said for having to

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02:04:11,560 --> 02:04:15,360
Speaker 1: go up and be brutally honest on a national level

2518
02:04:16,080 --> 02:04:18,280
Speaker 1: with guys you played with and certainly with your brother.

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02:04:18,360 --> 02:04:19,960
Speaker 1: So I think, on at one point, I think that

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02:04:20,120 --> 02:04:22,800
Speaker 1: is true, but I think there are also some contributing

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02:04:22,840 --> 02:04:25,480
Speaker 1: factors as well. Yeah, there's more two more today, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right? Part two. NFL True or False Presented by

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Speaker 1: Yancey's Fancy. The Dolphins orange jersey is the ugliest in

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02:04:32,360 --> 02:04:34,480
Speaker 1: the NFL. Have you seen it? An alternate jersey? They

2525
02:04:34,520 --> 02:04:38,360
Speaker 1: have the Miami Dolphins orange the predominant color. It's ugly?

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02:04:39,320 --> 02:04:41,200
Speaker 1: Is it the ugliest? But it's not even close to

2527
02:04:41,240 --> 02:04:44,840
Speaker 1: being the ugliest? The Browns brown uniform? Thank you kidding me?

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02:04:44,880 --> 02:04:46,960
Speaker 1: I mean I've seen worst thing. You think about the

2529
02:04:47,040 --> 02:04:50,360
Speaker 1: old Tampa Bay Buccaneers cream sickle jerseys. I mean those

2530
02:04:50,400 --> 02:04:51,880
Speaker 1: were pretty bad too. But every once in a while

2531
02:04:51,880 --> 02:04:53,040
Speaker 1: it is kind of nice to see him, you know.

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02:04:53,160 --> 02:04:56,040
Speaker 1: But this dolphin orange thing. Come on? And how about

2533
02:04:56,040 --> 02:05:01,800
Speaker 1: the Jaguars turquoise? Oh my gosh, atrocity knee Titans look

2534
02:05:01,840 --> 02:05:04,280
Speaker 1: like World Football League uniforms, don't they. Yeah, they're a

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02:05:04,280 --> 02:05:07,400
Speaker 1: little yeah, they're a little busy. Yeah. So there's a

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02:05:07,440 --> 02:05:09,880
Speaker 1: lot of bad uniforms. No, the Dolphins oreas you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm no, obviously no fan of the Dolphins, but

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02:05:12,280 --> 02:05:16,040
Speaker 1: that's not even the top five or twa. Yeah, it's

2539
02:05:16,040 --> 02:05:17,960
Speaker 1: a great looking uniform. Remember we have the uniform guy

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02:05:18,040 --> 02:05:20,080
Speaker 1: on a couple of months ago. Yeah, and I remember

2541
02:05:20,120 --> 02:05:21,240
Speaker 1: going in that you were saying, I mean, what are

2542
02:05:21,280 --> 02:05:23,600
Speaker 1: we going to talk to him about? He's great? Right,

2543
02:05:23,680 --> 02:05:26,360
Speaker 1: he was good? He does he surprised me. The Bills

2544
02:05:26,480 --> 02:05:29,440
Speaker 1: have a classic uniform, they really do. I think the

2545
02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:32,480
Speaker 1: Bills classic blue and white is among the best in

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02:05:32,480 --> 02:05:36,120
Speaker 1: the NFL top five. There's two to me, there's two

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02:05:36,280 --> 02:05:41,000
Speaker 1: criteria for a good jersey. One is obviously the color scheme, right,

2548
02:05:41,080 --> 02:05:44,120
Speaker 1: how do the colors go together? I mean that's one thing, right.

2549
02:05:44,440 --> 02:05:47,280
Speaker 1: The second thing is the simplicity of it. Yeah, the

2550
02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:50,920
Speaker 1: simpler the better. And certainly you can be bold and

2551
02:05:51,000 --> 02:05:53,560
Speaker 1: you can have like broad stripes down the pants or whatever,

2552
02:05:53,680 --> 02:05:55,879
Speaker 1: but the simpler the better. Don't you know, the swoops

2553
02:05:55,920 --> 02:05:58,200
Speaker 1: and the swirling lines and stuff they start to get

2554
02:05:59,120 --> 02:06:00,960
Speaker 1: they started a little get get a little bit gimmicky

2555
02:06:00,960 --> 02:06:03,760
Speaker 1: and a little bit trendy. But the classic things are

2556
02:06:03,880 --> 02:06:10,800
Speaker 1: just big, good color schemes with bold, simplistic stripes and markings.

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02:06:10,920 --> 02:06:13,040
Speaker 1: That's it. And the simpler you make it the better.

2558
02:06:13,160 --> 02:06:15,560
Speaker 1: And I so that's kind of my criteria, and certainly

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02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:18,400
Speaker 1: the Bills have some great ones. Part three NFL True

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02:06:18,440 --> 02:06:22,160
Speaker 1: or False. Here's an interesting concept. Matt Ryan Atlanta Falcons

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02:06:22,400 --> 02:06:25,440
Speaker 1: is the most underrated quarterback in the NFL. That was

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02:06:25,520 --> 02:06:29,160
Speaker 1: something put out there by blogging dirty dot com. I

2563
02:06:29,200 --> 02:06:30,880
Speaker 1: don't know what kind of website that is. I'm not

2564
02:06:30,920 --> 02:06:33,320
Speaker 1: going to do it at work either, but Matt Ryan

2565
02:06:33,440 --> 02:06:35,440
Speaker 1: is the most underrated quarterback in the NFL. Let me

2566
02:06:35,480 --> 02:06:38,640
Speaker 1: just say false. You know, we talked about him earlier.

2567
02:06:38,680 --> 02:06:41,480
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford might be the most underrated quarterback in the NFL.

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02:06:41,600 --> 02:06:45,680
Speaker 1: Not Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan was an MVP. Yeah, he's

2569
02:06:45,720 --> 02:06:48,880
Speaker 1: not underrated, and he's not that good either. He's okay,

2570
02:06:49,000 --> 02:06:52,120
Speaker 1: he's pretty good. Yeah, he's pretty good. He is good.

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Speaker 1: Not everybody knows. Everybody knows he's a quality quarterback. He

2572
02:06:55,080 --> 02:06:57,920
Speaker 1: didn't get underrated. Was you know, he's playing for the

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02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:00,200
Speaker 1: Falcons and maybe they you know, they don't win as

2574
02:07:00,200 --> 02:07:02,200
Speaker 1: many games you think they should. He's got one of

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02:07:02,240 --> 02:07:05,000
Speaker 1: the top receivers, if not the best receiver in the

2576
02:07:05,120 --> 02:07:09,120
Speaker 1: National Football League. Certainly Julio Jones is on track. He

2577
02:07:09,280 --> 02:07:12,880
Speaker 1: reached ten thousand yards in his career, faster than anybody else.

2578
02:07:12,880 --> 02:07:15,360
Speaker 1: Who do you think was thrown in the ball? Okay,

2579
02:07:15,440 --> 02:07:18,000
Speaker 1: so he's good, he's very good, great, and he's been

2580
02:07:18,080 --> 02:07:20,800
Speaker 1: in he's I gotta say it again, he's a former MVP.

2581
02:07:20,960 --> 02:07:22,880
Speaker 1: He's not underrated. He was the most valuable player in

2582
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:25,520
Speaker 1: the league. So sit down and shut up. He's fine.

2583
02:07:25,600 --> 02:07:28,800
Speaker 1: Get up with blogging dirty dot com. Yeah, I'm with you.

2584
02:07:29,520 --> 02:07:31,520
Speaker 1: There you go. NFL True and False brought to you

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Speaker 1: that printed up when I was calling the Yancy's Fancy

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Speaker 1: it from over here, though I was trying to read

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Speaker 1: upside down Yancey's Fancy New York's Artists and Cheese. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it is America's cheese. Might be all right? A breakcare,

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Speaker 1: We're back with more. It is One Bill's Live from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Okay, I hope

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Speaker 1: you've all learned a lot. What have we learned from

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills Good Show Today. George Wilson on The

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02:08:27,520 --> 02:08:30,600
Speaker 1: Show Today, former Bills safety back in town this week

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02:08:30,720 --> 02:08:33,720
Speaker 1: to speak to the NFL Bill's Rookie Club first year

2601
02:08:34,040 --> 02:08:37,360
Speaker 1: season decade olders. George Wilson made an incredible switch to

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02:08:37,520 --> 02:08:39,840
Speaker 1: a a half years into his career from playing wide

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02:08:39,880 --> 02:08:42,200
Speaker 1: receiver to playing safety, and he talked about it with

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02:08:42,320 --> 02:08:45,160
Speaker 1: us on the show today. But a lot of it

2605
02:08:45,280 --> 02:08:48,600
Speaker 1: was was meantal John, like, you had to play with

2606
02:08:48,680 --> 02:08:50,960
Speaker 1: an edge on defense. You know, you have to be

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02:08:51,080 --> 02:08:53,520
Speaker 1: able to anticipate and react in the in the in

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02:08:53,640 --> 02:08:56,520
Speaker 1: the fraction of a second in order to make a

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02:08:56,560 --> 02:08:58,600
Speaker 1: play on that football or to get off the field

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02:08:58,640 --> 02:09:01,760
Speaker 1: on third down. And so it was a lot more

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02:09:01,880 --> 02:09:04,320
Speaker 1: film study going in. You know, as a ride receiver,

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02:09:04,480 --> 02:09:06,440
Speaker 1: you know you know Steve, you know you know where

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02:09:06,480 --> 02:09:09,760
Speaker 1: you're going. You know, the defense has to anticipate based

2614
02:09:09,840 --> 02:09:13,080
Speaker 1: on your alignment, based on the formation, based on the

2615
02:09:13,160 --> 02:09:16,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks drop, you know, so you know where you're going

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02:09:16,200 --> 02:09:18,120
Speaker 1: on offense. On defense, you got to do a lot

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02:09:18,200 --> 02:09:20,800
Speaker 1: of film study, a lot of preparation to be able

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02:09:20,840 --> 02:09:24,200
Speaker 1: to anticipate those plays and those that that's the difference

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02:09:24,280 --> 02:09:27,760
Speaker 1: between being average, being good, and being great. Are the

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02:09:27,800 --> 02:09:30,120
Speaker 1: players that can carry over that film study make plays

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02:09:30,160 --> 02:09:32,320
Speaker 1: on game day. It was great catching up with George

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Speaker 1: Wilson on the show today and glad he was able

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Speaker 1: to join us also on the show today just a

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Speaker 1: few minutes ago. Brian Baldinger from Fox Sports NFL Coverage

2625
02:09:40,320 --> 02:09:43,400
Speaker 1: and from NFL Network. Brian Baldinger is a big fan

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02:09:43,600 --> 02:09:46,000
Speaker 1: of one of the Bill's first round picks last year,

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02:09:46,280 --> 02:09:50,360
Speaker 1: Tremine Edmunds, the linebacker. He says, he is a sensational player.

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02:09:50,400 --> 02:09:53,960
Speaker 1: It's what they had to say to us. Well, he's

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02:09:53,960 --> 02:09:56,839
Speaker 1: got a tremendous practice. I mean obviously his side alone,

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02:09:58,040 --> 02:10:00,160
Speaker 1: you know, and then you combine that with you know,

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02:10:00,240 --> 02:10:03,080
Speaker 1: with with you know, elite speed. I always think that

2632
02:10:03,120 --> 02:10:06,880
Speaker 1: if your middle linebackers faster, defense looks faster. I think

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02:10:06,960 --> 02:10:09,160
Speaker 1: he was, you know, a guy that just got better

2634
02:10:09,400 --> 02:10:11,880
Speaker 1: the more he saw as the season went on. But

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02:10:12,000 --> 02:10:13,520
Speaker 1: he got his hands on a lot of footballs. I

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02:10:13,560 --> 02:10:15,520
Speaker 1: mean he led the team and passed his defense. He

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02:10:15,640 --> 02:10:18,760
Speaker 1: led the team, the tackles um, you know. I mean

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02:10:18,840 --> 02:10:21,800
Speaker 1: he finds the football and he does a lot of

2639
02:10:21,840 --> 02:10:24,400
Speaker 1: different ways. I expect that Sean and Leslie this year

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02:10:24,440 --> 02:10:27,560
Speaker 1: will will use him their variety other ways. I expected

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02:10:27,600 --> 02:10:30,120
Speaker 1: him to see him blitz the more this year. Get him,

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02:10:30,640 --> 02:10:33,920
Speaker 1: you know, get him on back in past protection because

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02:10:33,960 --> 02:10:37,040
Speaker 1: he just wants guys over. You know. It's good that Brian.

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02:10:37,240 --> 02:10:39,120
Speaker 1: We had Brian bowling around and he talked about that.

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02:10:39,160 --> 02:10:41,360
Speaker 1: See because I do think and look, I know and

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Speaker 1: everybody says it. Well, Josh Allen is the key. Josh Allen,

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02:10:44,200 --> 02:10:46,080
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, first round pick. Yeah, he's the key to

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02:10:46,160 --> 02:10:47,920
Speaker 1: the what kind of season the Bills are gonna have,

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02:10:47,960 --> 02:10:49,480
Speaker 1: what kind of teams are going to be. But I

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02:10:49,560 --> 02:10:53,120
Speaker 1: think we sometimes overlooked for me and Edmonds, another first

2651
02:10:53,200 --> 02:10:57,160
Speaker 1: round pick who played what fifteen games last year and

2652
02:10:57,640 --> 02:11:00,280
Speaker 1: did a lot of good things. He was defending about.

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02:11:00,320 --> 02:11:02,720
Speaker 1: Josh got better every every week. I think Tremaine got

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02:11:02,800 --> 02:11:05,280
Speaker 1: better the season went along too. He was Defensive Rookie

2655
02:11:05,320 --> 02:11:08,040
Speaker 1: of the Month in December last year. Second half of

2656
02:11:08,040 --> 02:11:10,520
Speaker 1: the season last year he was He played extremely well

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02:11:10,560 --> 02:11:13,520
Speaker 1: and it got noticed by a lot of people. The

2658
02:11:13,680 --> 02:11:16,520
Speaker 1: thing that I've always said, Murph and I get you know,

2659
02:11:16,760 --> 02:11:19,440
Speaker 1: you get tired of here, and it's smart players always

2660
02:11:19,520 --> 02:11:24,280
Speaker 1: get better. And Tremaine, Edmonds, Josh Allen, these guys this year,

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Speaker 1: Cody Ford at Oliver, they're really intelligent football players. Now

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02:11:28,520 --> 02:11:30,440
Speaker 1: I'm not just talking about football like you. I'm talking

2663
02:11:30,480 --> 02:11:33,080
Speaker 1: about guys and when you talk to them, they're articulate,

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02:11:33,120 --> 02:11:34,480
Speaker 1: they know what's going on. Their lights are on and

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02:11:34,480 --> 02:11:37,200
Speaker 1: their hard workers. Smart guys always get better, and so

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Speaker 1: that's why it's kind of exciting to think about the

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Speaker 1: step that these two young players like Josh Allen and

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02:11:42,280 --> 02:11:45,040
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds could take in their second year because there's

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Speaker 1: no doubt they're putting in the work. So it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be fun to see them, you know, see them progress

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02:11:51,520 --> 02:11:53,920
Speaker 1: as a result of it. There's a cliche about a

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Speaker 1: sophomore slump. I don't have that concern for either Josh

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Speaker 1: or Tremaine Edmonds just based on what you just talked

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Speaker 1: about the way they approached their jobs. Yeah, I hope,

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Speaker 1: I hope I'm right, but I just don't see that

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02:12:05,960 --> 02:12:07,320
Speaker 1: coming for either one of them. Yeah, I don't need

2677
02:12:07,360 --> 02:12:08,760
Speaker 1: there not doesn't mean they're gonna come out and all

2678
02:12:08,760 --> 02:12:10,839
Speaker 1: of a sudden they're gonna be, you know, all perennial,

2679
02:12:10,880 --> 02:12:13,400
Speaker 1: all pros, you know, out right out of the gate either.

2680
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Speaker 1: But certainly their play, both of them together, as we've

2681
02:12:17,600 --> 02:12:19,960
Speaker 1: talked about with his Twitter poll all day, I think

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02:12:20,000 --> 02:12:23,120
Speaker 1: they elevate the guys around him. This is not going

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02:12:23,200 --> 02:12:26,040
Speaker 1: to be a team theoretically, this team is not going

2684
02:12:26,120 --> 02:12:29,360
Speaker 1: to be led by the quarterback and rushing again because

2685
02:12:29,360 --> 02:12:31,760
Speaker 1: of the offensive line upgrades and because of the people

2686
02:12:31,800 --> 02:12:33,400
Speaker 1: around him, because of the weapons they have on the

2687
02:12:33,480 --> 02:12:35,839
Speaker 1: outside as well, this is going to be a completely

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02:12:35,960 --> 02:12:38,600
Speaker 1: different looking offense. Josh is not going to have to

2689
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Speaker 1: do the things he did last year to be successful.

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Speaker 1: The question remains, can he do the other things that

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02:12:44,760 --> 02:12:46,920
Speaker 1: you have to do to be successful? Because he can

2692
02:12:46,960 --> 02:12:48,640
Speaker 1: do all the stuff you hope he never has to do.

2693
02:12:49,800 --> 02:12:52,920
Speaker 1: But the question remains, let's see what this looks like.

2694
02:12:53,040 --> 02:12:54,840
Speaker 1: And it's getting close to the time when we're actually

2695
02:12:54,840 --> 02:12:56,560
Speaker 1: gonna get a look at it. I can't wait. We

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Speaker 1: can half until camp. Hey, we had a pretty good

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Speaker 1: dialogue going on our Twitter pole today on One Bills

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Speaker 1: Live after quarterback? What is the most valuable position in

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Speaker 1: the NFL? We hit close to nine hundred votes cast

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Speaker 1: on the Twitter poll. The biggest group went to pass

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02:13:11,760 --> 02:13:15,200
Speaker 1: rusher forty five percent said after the quarterback, pass rusher

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Speaker 1: is the most valuable position in the NFL. I would

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Speaker 1: go with that, but I would I'm surprised that cornerback

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02:13:19,760 --> 02:13:22,360
Speaker 1: didn't get more votes. Offensive tackle was number two thirty

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Speaker 1: one percent, only seventeen percent went for cornerback, seven percent

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Speaker 1: and somebody else in mind, I think we're not paying

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Speaker 1: as much attention to corners as we should. A little

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Speaker 1: bit of it. As you're talking, we're talking to Bills fans,

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Speaker 1: and they went through a rough season on the offensive

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Speaker 1: line last year, and I think that's a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a reaction to Santon. I don't care what happens.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to go through that again, you know.

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Speaker 1: So listen, let's get that. Let's get an offensive tackle

2714
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Speaker 1: the wee can trust and to elevate the guys around

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Speaker 1: him before we get anybody else. Little Madden talk coming

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Speaker 1: up on the show tomorrow. Madden twenty is out there

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Speaker 1: and one of the game rating experts, Clint Oldenberg, will

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Speaker 1: join us on tomorrow show to talk about the Bills

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Speaker 1: ratings and some of the others. Look forward to that

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Speaker 1: good show today. See, I have a question for you.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear when I give the credits here those on

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Speaker 1: vacation do they get a credit? In other words, did

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Speaker 1: you mention my name last week when I was down here?

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Speaker 1: As absolutely I did, although I did not thank you.

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Speaker 1: I just mentioned that you were not here. All right?

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Speaker 1: Our production and assistants include those on vacation. George blasts

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Speaker 1: robolo producer Jay Harris see tomorrow noon. One Bill Slide

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