1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,279 Speaker 1: Hi, guys, it's Chelsea and Catherine here you So today, Catherine, 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: we are doing one of our minisodes, and so we 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: have one couple calling in for couples counseling. 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 2: Correct exactly, exactly, and for anybody else who wants to 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: write in, polase write in yes for sure loves great 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 2: advice for couples. 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I am just I'm flawless in my advice 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: giving everybody. 9 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 3: I mean, so far, it's been four years. 10 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: I well, I mean not four years of one hundred. 11 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure there's some upset customers, but that's 12 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: par for the course. You know. 13 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 3: It's not like I have a degree just operating on 14 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 3: you know, vibes and good vibes. 15 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm operating on good fucking vibes. 16 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 3: Okay, okay. 17 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: So our question today on our couple's counseling with Chelsea 18 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: comes from Lynn and Kara. Dear Chelsea, we're writing in 19 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: for some advice on whether or how to expand our family. 20 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 2: My partner and I have been married for six years, 21 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: and we grew our family a year into marriage in 22 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: a somewhat unconventional but deeply meaningful way as two women 23 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: in our prime fertility years, we consider the full range 24 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: of options, sperm donor, private or international adoption, fostering, adopting 25 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: from foster care, you name it. Ultimately, we were matched 26 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: with an eleven year old girl whom we fostered for 27 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: three years before finally becoming her legal guardians aw Our 28 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: plan was to was always to adopt her, but the 29 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: system had its own timeline. Whole story there. She's now 30 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: sixteen and we love her dearly. At the time we 31 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: welcomed her into our home, the idea was to have 32 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: more children, but we quickly realized that wouldn't be the 33 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 2: right decision for her or for us at the time. Now, 34 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: with her only a few years from graduating and us 35 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: both still just thirty four, the question of whether to 36 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: grow our family is back on the table. Here's where 37 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 2: it gets complicated. There seemed to be ethical concerns around 38 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: every path. Sperm donor have you seen the man with 39 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: a thousand kids? Enough said? Private adoption feels uncomfortable bidding 40 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: for babies while so many children in the system need homes, 41 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: foster care, I do it again. My wife isn't so sure. 42 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: After everything we went through the first time, and beyond that, 43 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: both aware of the broader ethical tension of bringing more 44 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: people into a world that feels increasingly unwell. Add to 45 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: that are many, many frustrations with society at large, especially 46 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: when it comes to how we raise youth. And it's 47 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: easy to feel like throwing in the towel. And yet 48 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: I'm not sure I'm ready to let go of the 49 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: family we once envisioned. In many ways, I'm fulfilled. I'm 50 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: a mom to an incredible daughter who loves and needs us. 51 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: We get the privilege of guiding her into adulthood, but 52 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: I also love being a mom, and there are joys 53 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: of parenthood that we haven't yet experienced and still long for. 54 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: So I guess we're writing in either to have you 55 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: say don't have kids, you idiots, which honestly might be 56 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 2: the easiest answer, or to help us untangle whether we're 57 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: walking away from something too soon. Part of me thinks 58 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: we should just enjoy our impending empty nest freedom. The 59 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: other part wonders if we're exactly the kind of people 60 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: who should be raising more kids, because we get how 61 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 2: hard and beautiful and complicated it all is. 62 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: Lynn and Kara, Hi girls, Linkara, Hi, you guys are cute. Wow, 63 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: great job fostering at eleven year old. I mean, listen, 64 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: right off the bat, instinctually I would say to you, 65 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: you guys were open to fostering. I mean, those are 66 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: the kids that need it the most. You talk about 67 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: bringing children into this world. It's a very valid point. 68 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: There are so many children that need homes. So it's 69 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: almost like to me, if you're if that's something you've done, 70 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: and I know how complicated that system is. I have 71 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: a cousin who's fostered and to adopt and that turned 72 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: into an adoption, and I know that it is exhausting. 73 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: But when you're up for it, which you two seem 74 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: to be, then it's kind of like you're meant to 75 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: do that. Like, if you've done. 76 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: It, you know the ropes. 77 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: You already have an advantage going in because you've been 78 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: through this system before, and you're helping somebody who's already 79 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: here in this world that doesn't have the guidance that 80 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: the two of you can provide. And I love what 81 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: you said, guiding them into adulthood. I think that is 82 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: really profound and exactly what parents are meant to do. 83 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: It's not like you own your children. You're just supposed 84 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: to guide them into becoming you know, big, big humans 85 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: and good humans, and you both seem like, you know, 86 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: just from your letter, wonderful human beings. So I would say, 87 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: if you're going to do it, to try to go 88 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: down that road again, knowing that it's going to be 89 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: a difficult path, but that the outcome is going to 90 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: outweigh the work that you put into it. 91 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm open to that. 92 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 4: I don't know she is. I think what makes it 93 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 4: difficult is that even going and taking that path, there's 94 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 4: just so much that isn't in our control, which I 95 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 4: guess is true about children, regardless of how you do 96 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 4: or don't bring them into the world, but how you 97 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 4: raise them. But I think it's one of the things 98 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 4: that has stuck with me in raising the child we 99 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 4: have now, is that like every step we take, and 100 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 4: this might be the age that she came to us too, 101 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 4: like there's always sadness before happiness when you go through 102 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 4: that path, right, because there's a loss of a family, 103 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 4: there's a loss of so many things, and that's like 104 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 4: really heavy and the world already feels so heavy that 105 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 4: a part of me is like, I don't know if 106 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 4: I can do that again if that makes sense. And 107 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 4: when I think about like broadening the family, there's like 108 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,679 Speaker 4: so many joyous things that I feel like we also 109 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 4: didn't really get a chance to experience that. I feel 110 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 4: like taking that path again. Maybe it at a different 111 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 4: age we would have a slightly different experience, but it 112 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 4: just feels like dark and heavy to go down that 113 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 4: road again right now. Maybe there's things we're not ready 114 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 4: right now. 115 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: Maybe it does, but I mean, yeah you are. 116 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 4: I mean, you got it. 117 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 1: Getting a girl at eleven years old is much different 118 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: than getting a baby or getting even a three year old, 119 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: you know it is. It's like and there's no doubt 120 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: that it's going to be difficult, but that's going to 121 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: happen with any child. That even if you had a 122 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: child and you got a sperm donor like that, all 123 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: of that's going to happen. What's different about the fostering 124 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: system is that it's so frustrating and there's so much bureaucracy, 125 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: and you know, parents have so many rights and so 126 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: they finally don't have the rights the birth parents. You know, 127 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: they have to fuck up so many times and there's 128 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: all this stuff that can happen. And while that does 129 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: sound challenging and onerous. It sounds like something that you 130 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: too can handle. And I'm of the idea that if 131 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: you can handle something, then you should be the people 132 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: that are doing it, rather than like, you know, say 133 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: you were looking at another couple. Say you were looking 134 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: at a six year old kid that needed a home, Okay, 135 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: a six year old little boy who had been in 136 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: foster care for six years, and you saw another couple 137 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: that were going to foster him, and you knew that 138 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: they didn't have the capabilities or the capacity to love. 139 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 3: In the way that you did. 140 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: Wouldn't you want to just go snatch that kid up 141 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: and do everything you had to provide the home that 142 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: you've already been able to provide for someone, Like you've 143 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: proven yourself in this arena. I really feel that when 144 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: you do something well and have crossed all these hurdles 145 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: and what you said, I hear you, there's sadness before 146 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: there's happiness, Like I think you won't have an identical 147 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: experience to the one that you had. And there's just 148 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: so many children out there that need homes, and when 149 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: you really care about that, then that's your answer. You know, 150 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: go help somebody that needs a home. You don't have 151 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: to do it tomorrow. But if you're on the fence 152 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: about it's like you're not on the fence about loving 153 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: children and wanting to help them. You're not on the 154 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: fence about that. So I think that it's a definite 155 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: yes for you guys, and it's just a matter of 156 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: which way you decide to go. And I would say 157 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: fostering is you know, from somebody who's never done this 158 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: if before in my life, just that you know, I'm 159 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: just from what I can here from you, a. 160 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: Pretty close relationship with it compared to Yeah. 161 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: I mean, now I've seen it firsthand what happens and 162 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: how frustrating that is. But you know, you guys have 163 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: a lot of love to give. And when you have 164 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: a lot of love to give, it's kind of your 165 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: I think it's your responsibility to give. 166 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 4: It sucks to be good people, you. 167 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: Know, That's right, That's right. Honestly, I don't have anything 168 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: to add to that. 169 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: I think my only question for you is how important 170 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: is it to you to pass on your DNA. 171 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: Is that a need like a feeling either of you have? 172 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: Not? 173 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: For me, No, that's a man thing. Women don't give 174 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: a shit hence the man with a thousand kids. 175 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if that's not something that you feel 176 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: a great desire for, then you know, I think the 177 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: sperm donor route as a So. 178 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: It's just like, this world is such a mess right now, 179 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: do you really want to do that? Do you want 180 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: to bring someone in the world? Right? You don't want 181 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: to add you want to comfort what exists here. 182 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: Is a question for you too, since obviously you've been 183 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: researching this and looking into all the possibilities. 184 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: Quite a bit. 185 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: So between a private adoption or foster care, like is 186 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 2: there the ability to sort of like be open to 187 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: both of those and like put your names in the 188 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 2: hat for both of those, and like see if one 189 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 2: starts to feel right or if you start getting more 190 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: you know, someone said to your questions from the agencies 191 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: or those sorts of things, like just to feel it out. 192 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's an interesting question. So adopt a license and 193 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 5: a very state by state, but to be licensed to 194 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 5: adopt a separate of being licensed to foster, and the 195 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 5: routes that those children go through are very different. 196 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would imagine it's like obviously another cost 197 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 2: to get the license to adopt, correct. 198 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, which isn't a big I mean, we don't care 199 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 4: about that. And when we previously, you know, we're planning 200 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 4: to adopt, we were only licensed to adopt, and so 201 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 4: that was our plan, even though the child was in 202 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 4: foster care. But they the system did its thing. Yeah, 203 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 4: they're like, oh, after we had already like decided and everything, 204 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 4: they're like, oh, you know, well this might not go 205 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 4: through for a little bit. And so we got license 206 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 4: to foster so that she could come into our home 207 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 4: versus being like, oh, nice to meet you and have 208 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 4: a good life. 209 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're sort of already ready on both of 210 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 2: those counts. 211 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: Sorry, I don't mean just foster, I mean adopt or 212 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: foster an existing kid, just somebody who's already here. Yeah, 213 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: if you go down the adoption route, I mean, it 214 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: might take longer, but you're going to get the it's 215 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: not going to be the bureaucracy you dealt with with 216 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: foster care. And that's also a way to rescue someone, 217 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: you know, to get them in a safe place. 218 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 3: So I agree with Chelsea. 219 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: You two feel like people who absolutely have more parenting 220 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: to give and more love to give. 221 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, find a kid who's out. 222 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: There and maybe just like leave it open to both 223 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: or you know, get registered for both and see which 224 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 2: one starts to present itself. Because I do think that 225 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: the people and come into our lives that should be 226 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: in our lives. You know. 227 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and thank you guys for doing that. That's beautiful. 228 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: You're both a beautiful couple. I know you're going to 229 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: make good decisions and provide and I'm so happy to 230 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: hear that you were able to get an eleven year 231 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: old little girl under your wings and guide her because 232 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: she's going to be you know, her whole future has 233 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: changed because of you. So you have the ability to 234 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: do that for people, and you should do you should 235 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: do it well. 236 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 4: I was saying, this is from the start, so now 237 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 4: that you said it. 238 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 3: She's like Chelsea to do. 239 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: By the way, I'm never encouraging people to have children, 240 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: so this is at first. But yeah, so like, keep 241 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: us mosted, let us know what happens, will you. 242 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: Yeah we will, Okay, bye bye. 243 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: I just announced all my tour dates. It's called the 244 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: High and Mighty Tour. 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