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Speaker 2: let's get into this NFL news guys. The Steelers have

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Speaker 2: found their starting quarterback. Aaron Rodgers put pen to paper

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Speaker 2: on a one year deal. He signed a one year,

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Speaker 2: thirteen point six five million dollars of passing the physical

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Speaker 2: at the team facility on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Sources told Adam Shefter.

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Speaker 2: The deals include ten million guaranteed and with incentives, can

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Speaker 2: reach nineteen point five million. Ojo, let's go to you.

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Speaker 2: What do what do you think? What do you What

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Speaker 2: are your expectations from Aaron Rodgers? And what will he

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Speaker 2: give the Steelers?

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Speaker 3: Hey, listen, he would He gives the Stealers. You give

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Speaker 3: the Steelers hope. He give a Stealers organization, You give

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Speaker 3: the Steelers fans. He gives him hope. You look at

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Speaker 3: the AFC North, It's dominated by Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not sure what the Cleveland situation is that

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Speaker 3: it looked like, but flack o Ovis.

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Speaker 1: He has has inside track to start.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, inside track because he's been the AFC nor before,

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Speaker 3: being in Baltimore and having success in Cleveland when he

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Speaker 3: when he came in to start for Deshaun Watson when

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Speaker 3: he got hurt. So Aaron Rodgers is better than everything

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Speaker 3: that the Stealers have outside of him at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 4: And that's no disrespect to them.

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Speaker 3: That's no disrespect to Mason Rudolph and whoever else they

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Speaker 3: have there they have at the helm. But Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 3: if he can show glimpses, just glimpses of what he

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Speaker 3: was once in the past, I think they would be okay.

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Speaker 3: They have enough pieces around him obviously, DK Metcalf.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure who the who the who the running

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Speaker 1: They got Austin and they got Robert Woods.

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Speaker 4: Oh and Robert Woods is there he has.

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Speaker 3: He has a nice supporting cast around him, and you

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Speaker 3: need the support and cast to be on point to

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Speaker 3: make him job easier. Because Aaron Rodgers is not in

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Speaker 3: the position again to elevate those around him.

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Speaker 4: He going to need the help from those he's surrounded by.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, jud what'd you think about this deal?

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Speaker 1: You you like it.

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Speaker 5: Oh well, I think uh, I think the stealers are

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Speaker 5: like they are there, they get hurt from the greatness

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Speaker 5: of Mike Tomas. Mike Tomlin always gonna have them in contention,

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Speaker 5: so they can't go and form a quarterback from the draft.

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Speaker 5: So I think this they I think this is their

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Speaker 5: best pick. Like there's nobody else out there. Uh listen,

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Speaker 5: there's nobody else unless you want to make a trade,

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Speaker 5: but nobody really trading no good quarterback like that. And

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Speaker 5: so uh if Aaron Rodgerson come in and complete passes

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Speaker 5: and be good in the locker room and do it enough,

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Speaker 5: they gonna be in the playoffs again. Because just how

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Speaker 5: Mike Thomlins had that physical defense. Uh, They're always gonna

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Speaker 5: have a great pass rush with with Cam and uh TJ. Like,

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Speaker 5: so it's it's gonna it's gonna be hard for them

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Speaker 6: They just can't mess it up on offense.

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Speaker 2: The team announced that Rogers will wear the number eight.

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Speaker 2: He wore the same number in New York after wearing

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Speaker 2: twelve in Green Bay. Terry Bradshaw warred number twelve, and

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Speaker 2: though it's not officially retired. The team doesn't typically give

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Speaker 2: like three numbers that are officially officially retired, but I

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Speaker 1: Whatever the number did.

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Speaker 2: Is another number that I don't think they've given out,

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Speaker 2: fifty eight, forty seven, like Lamb mal Blunt. But there

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Speaker 2: are certain you know, obviously from that Steel Curtain era

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Speaker 2: some of those guys have numbers and even though they're

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Speaker 2: not officially retired, No what I don't think it's worn

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Speaker 2: Frank o'harris okay, Ernie Stoutner de tackle his numbers retired seventy,

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Speaker 2: Joe Green seventy five, Frank o'harris thirty two. Numbers not

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Speaker 4: Well eighty six retired.

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Speaker 1: It's not retired, but they haven't reissued it left you know.

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Speaker 3: You know, also you know Aaron Ward eight at at

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Speaker 3: So hopefully can get some of that, some of that

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Speaker 2: That's a very tough division at the top, you got yeah,

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Speaker 3: If he doesn't play well, If he doesn't play well,

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Speaker 3: you know, players.

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Speaker 4: Get coaches fired.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Momin could be on the hot seat for

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Speaker 3: making obviously he had him wait, he had the whole

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Speaker 3: got mini camp coming up very soon, mandatory mini camp,

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Speaker 4: Be a part of that, which is also a good thing.

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Speaker 4: That's a good sign.

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Speaker 3: That lets that lets me know that he's buying it

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Speaker 3: as opposed to what he did last season out there

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Speaker 3: think that they have a bad season.

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Speaker 6: You think you think Mike Tomlin on hot seat him.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, no, he just signed. He just signed an extension.

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Speaker 6: That don't matter what that means. They pay that all

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Speaker 4: Listen, they they was already talking about it last year,

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Speaker 2: They didn't have the Steelers haven't fired the coach in

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Speaker 2: sixty nine.

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Speaker 1: I was born in sixteen.

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Speaker 2: I'm about to be fifty seven, So they haven't fired

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Speaker 1: And you just said jud And the man hadn't had

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Speaker 1: a losing season.

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Speaker 6: He never gonna have a losing season. He trained him

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Speaker 6: so well, they played so hard for Mike Tomas. He's

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Speaker 6: never gonna have a losing season.

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Speaker 4: That's enough.

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Speaker 1: That's enough.

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Speaker 2: Just having just havn't just you know, I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's enough because he the one that said the standard

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Speaker 2: and competing for Super Bowl, they hadn't competed for a

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Speaker 1: They had.

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Speaker 2: Nobody thought even though they make the playoffs, Oh this man,

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Speaker 2: the Steelers aren't threat. When was the last time that

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Speaker 2: someone thought that Steelers would be a threat in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: When they had Paula Malu, when they had Ike Taylor.

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Speaker 2: Man Paula Malu retired, he in the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 2: So he had to wait at least five years to

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Speaker 2: at the bare minimum.

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Speaker 4: Five were you you asked, when that's that's ass win?

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Speaker 3: When they had the way, when their identity was their defense, they.

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Speaker 1: Hadn't been a serious threat since then.

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Speaker 6: But do you mean that that mean change? Did that

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Speaker 5: We we ain't been a serious dead or or we

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Speaker 5: have been so consistent that we just haven't got the

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Speaker 5: right person. They haven't They haven't had a quarterback that's

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Speaker 1: Being in Whose fault is that there's consistence? They had an.

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Speaker 2: Opportunity they could have true and they had been Roethlisberger,

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Speaker 2: and they thought Bread was gonna pay play like Tom Brady.

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Speaker 2: You know he wasn't because he's been involved in too

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Speaker 2: many crashes. He's taking too much punishment. So what you

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Speaker 2: do is that what good teams do? What did Kansas

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Speaker 2: City do draft the quarterback and they still had one

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco? You were there, they drafted a quarterback? You

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Speaker 2: see what good team? What the Green may do draft

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Speaker 2: the quarterback? What the Green may do with Aaron Rodgers?

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Speaker 2: Draft the quarterback. You see what everybody does. You don't wait.

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Speaker 2: If you wait till your car break down side the road,

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Speaker 2: it's too late, you're already stranded.

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Speaker 6: Okay, all right, but is that my fault? Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you don't think Might got no say if he

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Speaker 8: say get us a quarterback, get us a quarterback, Please

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Speaker 8: get us a quarterback, and they don't get us a quarterback.

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Speaker 6: How y'all gonna get mad at me?

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Speaker 2: You give Mike all that, you give all that My

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Speaker 2: credits say, he never gonna have he never gonna have

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Speaker 2: him in a losing situation.

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Speaker 1: So who drafting those players? The dream of of Mike Tomlin? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I mean, we don't know will go

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Speaker 5: on in a war room. But you can't you can't

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Speaker 5: just say, well that's Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin will won

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Speaker 5: a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Matt holdo o jo, Matthew, You mean to tell me

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Speaker 2: a man that's been there damn near twenty years?

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Speaker 1: He ain't got no saint.

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Speaker 6: How long has Jim been there?

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Speaker 2: Not bed not as long as Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 5: I ain't never heard of still as fine, no gym

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Speaker 4: Iver heard of him.

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Speaker 1: I tell you what you ever heard of him firing

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Speaker 1: a coach? No, exactly.

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Speaker 2: So my thing is, when you're there that long, you

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Speaker 2: have some safe you have some sale free the fifty three,

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Speaker 2: you have some say in free agency, and you that

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Speaker 2: at how long Mike Tomlin been there? My coach, Kyle

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Speaker 2: retired in two thousand. They won the Super Bowl in five.

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Speaker 2: He came back in six, So he retired in seven.

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Speaker 2: He's been there nineteen years.

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Speaker 3: You not.

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Speaker 2: There's no coach that's been anywhere for nineteen years that

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Speaker 2: does not have safe I refuse to believe that.

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Speaker 6: I don't know who that is.

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Speaker 4: Hold on, dude, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't even think it's about saying I'm thinking about

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Speaker 3: the relationship that Ben Roethlisberger might have had with upper

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Speaker 3: management with those.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a great relationship with Mike Tomlin too.

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Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no, no no no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 3: Because if Mike Tomlin, Mike Tomlin is a head coach,

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Speaker 3: he's been in the NFL a very long time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, someone knows.

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Speaker 3: At some point, I'm going to have to find your successor.

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Speaker 3: At some point, you look at you, you look at

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Speaker 3: the landscape of the league. Those that didn't do it.

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Speaker 4: Look what's happening now do.

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Speaker 6: It?

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Speaker 3: That's why, that's why I think that the calling was

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Speaker 3: above Mike Tomlin's pay grade.

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Speaker 1: I disagree.

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Speaker 5: I mean, yo, your starring quarterback, your franchise quarterback, is

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Speaker 5: getting paid more than the coach. Yes, I guarante, dumb,

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Speaker 5: dumb relationships might be a little stronger than the even

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Speaker 5: though the coach been there longer, he more teamed. I think, well,

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Speaker 5: I mean, we're paying this due only seventeen million year.

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Speaker 6: We're paying this dude fifty.

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Speaker 2: We understand that Mike Tomlin had a very strong relationship

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Speaker 2: he He's always had a very strong relationship with his

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Speaker 1: What did they do? Matt the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 5: But when you but when you see that, when you

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Speaker 5: They went and got can.

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Speaker 1: Man stop playing mans picketing out front? Don't know, we

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Speaker 5: But we gotta we gotta put that on somebody. We

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Speaker 5: are not saying he's a bad player. They didn't like

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Speaker 2: I think the thing is is that I believe there

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: You could sit back and say, you know what, next year,

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Speaker 2: And they and after they signed him, they gave him

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, Aaron Rodgers seen a situation play off.

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Speaker 5: blame me how y'all played Brett, and just move on.

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Speaker 2: I can't worry about one year. I got to worry

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Speaker 9: All right, those in those nineteen years, In those nineteen years,

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Speaker 2: No, it's not that you fought. You move up Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: They moved up to get Patrick Mahomes. They moved they

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Speaker 3: And that's where what I said comes into play. Unkle,

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Speaker 3: You think Tonan didn't want a quarterback when he realized Ben, okay,

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Speaker 1: Mike Toman can see that stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't have to say so, regardless of being

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing you still got. You maintained that

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Speaker 2: we think of what o jo championship, championship.

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Speaker 5: No ce no, you think of defense? SA you think

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Speaker 5: you think of Stell Mike townand that's his defense. They

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Speaker 2: They abandoned that when they got when they got Ben

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Speaker 2: They've been abandoned the defense when they had the triple bs,

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger's got two five thousand yard seevers, he's got

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Speaker 5: They've been abandoned that they just had that he had.

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Speaker 5: They had an exposive offense for five six years. They

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Speaker 5: Somebody go get the ball, take the top off. They're

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Speaker 5: always gonna have that defense. When you think Steelers, you

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Speaker 6: You know, you know.

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Speaker 9: When you hear that, hey mama around.

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Speaker 5: You hear that, don't don't you know that defense about

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Speaker 5: you know it's gonna be cold, rainy, wet when you

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Speaker 5: if you're gonna beat the Steelers, you have to keep

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Speaker 5: and you have to limit exposive plays from their offense.

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Speaker 6: That's all you gotta. That's how you beat Distiller.

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Speaker 2: But when the last time they've had explosive plays from

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Speaker 2: leve Yon Baill been gonna So when if you know

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Speaker 5: And that's why that's why George Pickins left the building. George,

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Speaker 5: George Pickins want to be he wanna he wanna dance.

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Speaker 5: He wanna he want to do that. That's why George

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Speaker 5: I need to the line like I want. I want

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Speaker 5: want to be Jamar Chase. He wanted he seen He's

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Speaker 2: Right, Matthew, thanks for joining us tonight, man, best de

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Speaker 2: luck in free agency. Come back when you when you

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Speaker 2: get something penciled in, come back and jordaans and let

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Speaker 6: All right, I got y'all appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it, bro all right, my boy, god, oh Joe, Hey, hey, y'all.

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Speaker 3: Hey, before you start like like real quick, real quick,

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Speaker 3: I just I just want to say something to you.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna see it in cold a little bit. You

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Speaker 3: Even even though Mike, even though it's Mike, I don't

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Speaker 3: think he has the pool, even though he's the head

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Speaker 3: coach to override pissing off the franchise quarterback, stay with me.

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Speaker 1: He got, I get you what you're saying, but he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, because he's been there so long. But with that,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying. I'm not saying.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's got had Bill Belichick Pool. Now,

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying he got Andy Reid type Pool.

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Speaker 1: He might have. He might be next in line with

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Speaker 4: Right right, right right, I got you, I got you.

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Speaker 4: We're on the same coach.

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Speaker 1: Can think about it.

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Speaker 2: They went out, they got Joe Flacco, who led them

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Speaker 2: to a Super Bowl. What they gonna do They trade

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Speaker 2: back into the first round, give up next year's first

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Speaker 3: Hey, you know you can see it, right, you know

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Speaker 3: when your player is declining. Yeah, things are the same,

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Speaker 6: You can see it.

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Speaker 4: The funny thing about it is.

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Speaker 3: How much do players or how much are they self

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Speaker 2: It's hard because, O Joe, you don't want to believe it,

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Speaker 2: because you've been great for so long. You don't want

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Speaker 2: O Joe to yourself, You lie to yourself you lie

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Speaker 3: Hey boy, you turn that film on and be like,

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Speaker 3: is that what it?

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Speaker 1: Damn? He moving slow? I'm like, oh that's me.

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Speaker 2: Man who running like they got on tims who run

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Speaker 2: it like they got Tim's on on the field for.

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Speaker 4: That camera, with that camera, that eye in the sky

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, uh oh Joe Adam Sandler to cast Deck.

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Speaker 2: We we ain't got I mean, we ain't got what

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Speaker 2: you call him?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 1: Oh you just wrote that in there. That what you

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Speaker 1: just wrote this this tweeted there we have Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Jordan Tuck, Yeah, Jordan Tuck made a good point on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Imagine moving on from George Pickings thinking the locker room

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean Aaron Rodgers is a different type of distraction,

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Speaker 4: Obviously. I think he's not going to cause any problem

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Speaker 4: because his lease is short. Because if you.

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Speaker 1: Missed it, you see his backup sorry his LEAs loan old.

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Speaker 3: Listen, you mess things up in Pittsburgh. Where's your next destination?

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Speaker 3: Where's your don't get home? Oh I meant that, That's

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Speaker 4: You don't you you, you have the leverage.

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Speaker 3: You don't have the leverage you once had, where you

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Speaker 4: Best in the league.

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Speaker 3: You're still living off that past resume, which is why

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Speaker 3: I wanted and waited for you to sign this late

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: So, and a at year twenty one, I mean, this

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Speaker 2: is gonna be his twenty first season. How many more

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Speaker 2: seasons do you think he really want to play? He

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Speaker 2: want to subject himself getting up studying film, studying film

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Speaker 2: all day, money, studying film all day Tuesday, watching film

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Speaker 1: And you know how long you think Aaron Rodgers wants

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Speaker 1: to do that?

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Speaker 3: Listen, hey, when you see what the AFC North like,

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Speaker 3: ain't no telling might be where he might be one

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Speaker 3: and done after this season.

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Speaker 1: That's my point.

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Speaker 2: I mean, at twenty, I mean you take it first

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Speaker 2: of all, once you get to a certain number of years,

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Speaker 2: you take it eight.

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Speaker 1: I probably a quarterback. Other positions probably take it year teen.

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Speaker 2: Quarterbacks probably take it at year fifteen, especially the way

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Speaker 2: year fifteen. Yeah, Like, I don't think he's tried to

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Speaker 2: eclipse Tom. He try to play twenty four You think

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Speaker 3: Ain't no telling, Ain't no telling, because I obviously they

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Speaker 3: will continue to sign him the one year deals if

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Speaker 1: I listen. I mean it's a very teen friendly contract.

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Speaker 1: I mean thirteen nothing nothing, that's nothing.

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Speaker 4: I'm listen.

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Speaker 3: I love the Steelers. I don't want them to do well.

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Speaker 3: I want them to do well except when they play

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Speaker 3: the Bengals. Want I want dk Metcalf, I want Calvin

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Speaker 4: They have Robert Woods, Robert Wood, I'm sorry, Robert Woods.

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Speaker 4: They have phenomenal seasons like they can.

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Speaker 3: I just want to see him do well for Mike

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Speaker 4: I fucking love all of them. But when you play

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Speaker 4: the Bengals, y'all get y'all.

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00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 2: Ass the moment we've all waited for. Shudor Sanders is

445
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 2: drafted in the fifth round. The Browns traded up to

446
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 2: select him. All these anonymous reports are coming out about

447
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,680
Speaker 2: your door having bad interviews, especially with the Giants. According

448
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 2: to Todd, mcshae Shuduor completely bombed his interview with the Giants.

449
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 2: He didn't have a great interview with head coach Brian Dayball.

450
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 2: The preparation wasn't there for an install package. Day Ball

451
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,880
Speaker 2: called him out and Sanders didn't like it. Day Ball

452
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,120
Speaker 2: has gone eight and twenty six over the past two seasons,

453
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 2: so he probably knows a thing or two about being unprepared.

454
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I mean, you go eight

455
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: and twenty.

456
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 2: Six, you go eight and twenty six being unprepared, you

457
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 2: and known unprepared person when you see one, considering over

458
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 2: the last two years, that's kind of exactly what you've been.

459
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 2: And then there's been reports of him having a big

460
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 2: entourage because his brother shoots videos of him being in

461
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 2: the family. He's with his brother and his family, no drinking,

462
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 2: no drugs, no controversy.

463
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 1: Just living his life. Oh, Churel, this is I'm gonna

464
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: start with you first.

465
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

466
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Speaker 2: Here that he didn't do well in the interview, He

467
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 2: didn't hit it off with coach day Ball and seemed

468
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 2: like he was unprepared, been like the entourage.

469
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Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead, right, I don't believe it, huh, I

470
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 3: don't believe it because every single NFL player, every single

471
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 3: When I say every single, I mean every single has

472
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Speaker 3: an entourage. Most of the entourage is is family in France.

473
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 3: If it's not family in France, it's friends that you

474
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 3: grew up with, right, everybody has that. So I'm not

475
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 3: sure why I even came into play and we talked

476
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 3: about everybody regardless of race, regardless of the ethnicity, it

477
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. So that's one thing interview interview goes bad.

478
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 4: I'm prepared now.

479
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 3: I think I'm thinking about a son of one of

480
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 3: the greatest players of all time, who's always been prepared

481
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 3: and coached and having tutelage from one of the best

482
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 3: of all time, and for some reason, all of a sudden,

483
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 3: you weren't prepared for interview when it comes to the

484
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 3: game of football in which he's a quarterback.

485
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Speaker 4: Again, that's something else that's not believable.

486
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 3: Now, you know, media, media can can can can screw

487
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 3: things and report things that obviously aren't true.

488
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Speaker 4: Bingo, forget that. So he drops to the Cleveland Browns

489
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 4: round five. What picked one. I'm not even tripping at

490
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 4: this point. I'm not even tripping at.

491
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 3: This point because Prime obviously is prepared should do it

492
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 3: for any and everything, dealing with media, dealing with with

493
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 3: those that doubt you. So I'm just happy he has

494
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 3: this opportunity because what's happening in this scenario, in this

495
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 3: situation in which I still believe, is collusion.

496
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Speaker 4: I'm not talking about race. I'm not talking about race

497
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Speaker 4: at all. I'm just speed.

498
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 3: I'm just saying a collective collusion against brother Sanders and

499
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 3: all the things and just the hype and listen to

500
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 3: the machine again.

501
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 4: I said it last night. I said it last night.

502
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 4: We have choices. People choose what they want to see.

503
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 4: I said it yesterday. I'm not talking about race at all.

504
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 4: One thing for sure. The Machine is undefeated and will

505
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 4: always remain undefeated. Anytime it feels not really threatened. But

506
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 4: there's another name or family that thinks they can come

507
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 4: in and do things their way. They'll humble you.

508
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 3: And this was this was an example of it, an

509
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 3: example of it that we've never ever ever seen before

510
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 3: to this magnitude, We've never seen anything like this.

511
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 4: I'm happy for Shador.

512
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 3: I'm happy for Shiloh and for Shador standers getting the

513
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 3: opportunity to play for the Cleveland Browns His situation is

514
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 3: simple as put. It's delayed, but it's not denied. It's

515
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 3: not about where you go, it's what you do once

516
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 3: you get there.

517
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 4: So now you know what you need to do. The

518
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 4: Browns haven't had a quarterback.

519
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 3: They haven't had a quarterback, a sufficient quarterback and consistent quarterback.

520
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 4: Have since Bernie for a very long time.

521
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Speaker 3: This might be their calling, This might be their blessing.

522
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 3: This might be his blessing even going there. So I'm

523
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 3: happy for him. He's gonna do us necessary. I'm sure

524
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 3: he had the chip on the shoulder, and I'm excited

525
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 3: because that in that AFC North, you know it run

526
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 3: through Cincinnati, and.

527
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Speaker 4: The only way you're gonna get it done is you

528
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 4: you got a quarterback. I just had that.

529
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 1: I saw that.

530
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 6: I saw you throw that in there.

531
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 7: Honestly, man, guys, to be honest with you, I mean,

532
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 7: I feel for him, obviously. You know you work so

533
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 7: hard and it's tough for you projected to go first round.

534
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 7: I had a situation once. It's not obviously not the

535
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 7: same because basketball is totally different as far as where

536
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 7: the number of people that get picked. But I was

537
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 7: with my best friend Nazi Muhammad was supposed to be

538
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 7: picked lottery when he came out and NA slid to

539
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 7: twenty nine and just sitting there and that obviously it

540
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 7: was nothing like where you have to actually wait a

541
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 7: whole nother day to get drafted, but just to see

542
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 7: him slide, huh.

543
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: You ain't two days. He got drafted today.

544
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 7: Tell you to wait two days. So it's different. But

545
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 7: I think like this, to be honest with you, I

546
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 7: say that I think you have to play the game, Shan,

547
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 7: And to be honest with you, I think if he

548
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 7: were to I'll played. I'm just gonna play the game.

549
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 7: So I get drafted whatever that would have been. Whatever,

550
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 7: And I think sometimes that's whatnot. And I'm not sure this,

551
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 7: and you guys get correct me if I'm wrong, because

552
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,959
Speaker 7: it seems like I've never seen an agent, and obviously

553
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 7: i'm watching from Afar. I'm watching off TV on social media.

554
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: He do he have an agent? I don't know.

555
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 2: I bet y'allo made a joke too about our dad

556
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: with our agent, and we might need to hire a

557
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 2: new agent.

558
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 7: Okay, I'm right, I don't know, because I think you

559
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 7: know how to say is sometimes you have an agent.

560
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 7: He can tell you the truth behind closed doors of

561
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 7: what they're actually saying and what you need to work on.

562
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 7: So by Diane being to Dad, he probably not really

563
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 7: hearing everything. They probably can't tell him, so he's not

564
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 7: hearing everything that they're saying. So I think that was

565
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 7: probably one mistake. And I don't know if he had

566
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 7: an agent or no, So if the agent to kind

567
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 7: of buffer that, to talk to him and kind of

568
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 7: figure it out. But you got to figure this thing out, man.

569
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 7: I think what thing about it it was about interview

570
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 7: I don't think a skill set. I mean he put

571
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 7: the numbers up. The numbers speak for theyselves. He had

572
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 7: the numbers, so we got to look at some of

573
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 7: the other stuff. I mean, I worked out for nine teens.

574
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 7: When I came out, I interviewed with nineteens, So you

575
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 7: gotta go through that process. I'm not sure how he interviewed.

576
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 7: Maybe that was a little sketchy. That can rub some

577
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 7: gms and it's that's the wrong way, you know, sometimes

578
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 7: if you don't interview well, maybe the swagger what he's

579
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 7: coming with great family, family dynamics. His family is going

580
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 7: to support him. Obviously, he has a certain swag, a

581
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 7: certain order. He carries with him, which we all love,

582
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 7: and we all we just talked about that. We liked that,

583
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 7: we talked, we all, all three of us talked trash,

584
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 7: we all celebrated, we all had fun, so we know that.

585
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 7: So that's not the problem. We brought our own style,

586
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 7: so that wasn't a problem with him. I just felt

587
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 7: like they didn't play the game that everybody else played,

588
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 7: and they wanted to show them that, Look, it's still

589
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 7: the NFL. We still run this. You still got to

590
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 7: go through this proper pecking order. And I think that's

591
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 7: what it was. That's what it looks like. You can't

592
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 7: look at his If you look at his numbers and

593
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 7: skilled of them, the guys that got picked erform all

594
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 7: this stuff, it doesn't make sense, right. So it's got

595
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 7: to be something behind the scenes. It can't be football ability.

596
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 7: It has to be something behind the scenes. That's why

597
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 7: I said, if he had an agent, maybe somebody that

598
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 7: could hear the noise, because he probably didn't hear the

599
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 7: real noise.

600
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: Correct, you know what I mean.

601
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 7: We were on TV watching all the analysts and everybody,

602
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 7: but you know, y'all prove you so much information. Y'alln't

603
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 7: priview you so much. We're not hearing that real noise,

604
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. So that's what And sometimes

605
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 7: your agent gets that for you to kind of help

606
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 7: you out and maybe help you get your act together.

607
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 7: That's why I really wanted to know if he had

608
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 7: an agent.

609
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 4: But then, you know, the funny thing about the town,

610
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 4: even at that point, you are who you are. Shador

611
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 4: is who he is. The Sandors family, they are who

612
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 4: they are. That that's it.

613
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 3: And they've always been unapologetically themselves and that rubs a

614
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 3: lot of people wrong. A lot of people don't like that,

615
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 3: including some of those in the NFL. Some of the

616
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: things that Deanna said in.

617
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 4: The past they probably didn't like. They probably didn't like it.

618
00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 3: You know he wanted to pull and or uh, you

619
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 3: want to pull you know with Eli that probably they

620
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 3: probably didn't like it. They quote tweets that he said

621
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: a long time ago. And I know, let me tell

622
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 3: you why.

623
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 4: I know this is all collusion. You know, I think

624
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 4: about some like like going, you know what, I'm not

625
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 4: even gonna bring it up. I'm not gonna bring it up.

626
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 4: I'm happy he got where he needed to go.

627
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 3: This is exactly where we're supposed to land because I

628
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 3: guarantee you watch it be a blessing in disguise in

629
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: them never having a quarterback and all of a sudden,

630
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 3: for some reason, you do or be in the answer

631
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 3: for the next decade.

632
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: I hope you're right.

633
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 7: Whould I ask you guys something as a as a

634
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 7: I'm a basketball guy, I'm gonna ask you some chat

635
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 7: you can you can ask this because you're talking right now.

636
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: Can you answer?

637
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 7: This is to Cleveland the right fit for him? Because

638
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 7: sometimes let's let's disregard what number he went. Did he

639
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 7: go to a good situation where he can actually be

640
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 7: able to showcase hisself and have a real opportunity to

641
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 7: be a starting quarterback in the NFL?

642
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: Do you guys like that situation?

643
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 3: If the GM and the owners are combatant when his

644
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: time comes to be able to compete for a starting job,

645
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 3: if they continue to build around him, yes, it's the

646
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 3: right place. If they continue to do right by the

647
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: quarterback position like other teams are doing, like they do

648
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 3: for the Mahomes, and they do for the Jalen Hurts,

649
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 3: and they do for you know, the other quarterbacks, the

650
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels. As you continue to put the pieces to

651
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: the postal around him, while you have a quarterback on

652
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 3: a very very cheap I hate using that word cheap,

653
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 3: but you know, a very affordable contract around him.

654
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 6: Yeah.

655
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 4: I think he's in the right place.

656
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 3: But if they do what they've always done for a

657
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: very long time, where they've been through two hundred and

658
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 3: seventy six thousand quarterbacks, then it would be the same,

659
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 3: the same process we repeat itself. They had Baker Mayfield,

660
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 3: you had the number one pick. There was nothing wrong

661
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: with Baker Mayfield because look what he's doing in Tampa Bay.

662
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: So that tells you where the problem lies. That the

663
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 3: problem lies with Cleveland internally. Now you've got an opportunity again,

664
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,239
Speaker 3: let's not f it up.

665
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.

666
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: I love when the quarterbacks, young quarterbacks come in and

667
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: have an unbelievable support system. Hopefully you have somebody that

668
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 2: can that's really smart schematically knows how to diagram plays.

669
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, knows how to put quarterbacks in the right situation.

670
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: You have a decent running back. I'm not saying you

671
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: need I mean, although that would be nice to have

672
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: a Saquon Barkley and the Derrick Henry On a rookie quarterback,

673
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: But you need quality receivers. You see CJ. Stroud where

674
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: he went and had success. Look at the receiving court

675
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: that he had. You look at Jade and Daniels, look

676
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: at the receiving court that he had. The question is

677
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: are there enough pieces around any quarterback for regardless if

678
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: it's a rookie or not, is there are enough pieces

679
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: around him so he can adequately do what he needs

680
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: to get done. I think Stefanowski is as an unbelievable coach.

681
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: He's the coach of the year. He knows how to

682
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: call plays, he knows how the scheme plays, and so

683
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: now it just comes down to, Okay, when you get

684
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: your opportunity, you gotta shine. You got to prepare like

685
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: there's no tomorrow, because that's already out there.

686
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: O Joe.

687
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: You see what they said he was unprepared. You see

688
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: what they did on Joe. See we already put that

689
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: out there on you.

690
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 3: Now, hey, that's the game. They're gonna play the game.

691
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 3: They're going to play the game. There's only one way

692
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 3: you could beat the game. That's in between the lines. Yeah,

693
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: no matter what to say, it blocks out all the noise.

694
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 3: You can only beat the game in between the lines.

695
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 3: That's it, no matter what they say.

696
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: But but I will say this on Joe, I don't

697
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: know if they're gonna allow Bluckie to go in and

698
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: film everything that that your do is doing.

699
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: That's over. That's over now.

700
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: When you when you're at Colorado and your dad's the

701
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: head coach, they're gonna allow that.

702
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: That's over with now.

703
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they understand that.

704
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: But I thought he was thought I thought he was

705
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: the video guy. I thought he's the video No, UK,

706
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna have no no personal video guy. Well

707
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: yeah you can.

708
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't do that now.

709
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 3: Once you once you entered that building, once you on

710
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 3: grounds in that facility, all that all that's done.

711
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: Yeah and so yeah, and so that's that's having it

712
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: onto rock.

713
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 6: Yeah.

714
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: I don't like I said, I don't know.

715
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if he went to the building and

716
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: they tried to go in the meeting rooms and Bucket

717
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: was trying to capture content. He doesn't have an agent

718
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: because Time agent was Eugenie Parker rested Sould. Eugene passed

719
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: away several years ago, and so I'm sure Time will

720
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: probably interview somebody now. And I agree with you, twine probably.

721
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 2: And that's the thing, because you have an agent and

722
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,719
Speaker 2: they hear things that they can tell you things. Now

723
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: they're gonna all the really really bad stuff. They ain't

724
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: gonna share that with you because they don't want to

725
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: mess with your mentally, but they'll share enough of stuff

726
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: with you so you get the picture and get a

727
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: great understanding of what's actually going on.

728
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 3: So hey, if I'm not mistaken, I so you know,

729
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: obviously my agent was obviously when I first got a

730
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 3: league in Jerome Stanley, phenomenal dude that did really well

731
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: for me on the back end of my career from

732
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: the middle on the back end, it was Drew Rosenhause.

733
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 3: And if I'm not mistaken, I saw Jus rosenhouse post

734
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 3: for Shiloh saying is once he got drafted. So I'm

735
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,479
Speaker 3: assuming Jerro's housepus to be represented representing Shiloh.

736
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 4: I'm not sure represents your door though, right, I get.

737
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: It, because Okay, the Brian's Court, the current quarterback room,

738
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson, Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett, Dylan Gabriel, Shadoor Sanders,

739
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson, Starter Flako is a vet if Deshon can't go.

740
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: You got Kenny Pickett, the backup, Dylan Gabriel, rookie Sha Dore,

741
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: rookie Phil.

742
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: What's going on? I mean, damn, what's really going on?

743
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 1: What's really going on on? Joe Hey.

744
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 4: I like to compete. I ain't got no problem with it.

745
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 4: I like to compete. Who I need to beat out?

746
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 4: I love Kenny Pickett.

747
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: I don't know how you beat Desjon now when he

748
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 2: got another forty eight got thirty eight million dollars this

749
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: year and another forty million next year.

750
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: How you beat him out? Sean?

751
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 4: He not shun, not playing the shit.

752
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: Okay, he's not gonna play this year. Okay, So now

753
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: you got yeah, yeah, Achilles.

754
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 4: Achilles, Achilles. Yeah. So listen, keys, I'm gonna take your

755
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 4: how it's gonna play out. I love Kenny Picott.

756
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: I love Kenny Pickett.

757
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 3: I love that that No brother Gabriel, but Shador if

758
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: he does what he's supposed to do. You know, we've

759
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 3: seen Kenny Pickett already. We haven't seen Dylan Gabriel yet.

760
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, I know, probably like I'm gonna start,

761
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: He's gonna start at some point.

762
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 4: She just gonna get a shot. At some point, he's

763
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 4: gonna get that shot. And when the door opened.

764
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 6: Let me let me ask both of you guys.

765
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 7: Let me ask both of you, whyleud Cleveland do that?

766
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 7: Whileould Cleveland want a quarterback room with five guys that

767
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 7: that break up is?

768
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 9: That?

769
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 6: Does that mean anything? Taking him free?

770
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

771
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 4: Three?

772
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 7: Okay, but the sewn Sean DeShawn is not playing playing,

773
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 7: he's not playing like January or February something like that.

774
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 2: You're right, I forgot you might just go ahead and

775
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 2: you know, put him on our R and go ahead,

776
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: let that go. Uh what I don't get Cleveland. At

777
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 2: some point in time, y'all gotta stop trade back. Y'all

778
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 2: could have had Julio Jones. You traded back. You could

779
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: have had you could have had Travis Hunter, and you're

780
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 2: dor and you traded back at some point in time

781
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: when guys are sitting there waiting for you to take them,

782
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: tank them right, thank them.

783
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: It's okay.

784
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: But I guess they're looking at it like we're more

785
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: than one player away. But sometimes that player can help

786
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: change things around. I don't I don't get it. I

787
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: don't get what they're doing with this situation. Uh, like

788
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: you said, Twine, he had an unbelievable college career. He

789
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: played well at Jackson State, and then they said, well, yes,

790
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 2: Jackson State, that's why you're doing that. He goes to Colorado,

791
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 2: he puts up succeptional numbers, uh, you know, great completion percentage.

792
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: He throws guys open. No, he's not the most athletic guy,

793
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: but he's not a decatholic. He don't need to high jump,

794
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: long jump, pole vault, shot put, hurdle one hundred, all

795
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: hundred fifty. He'll do all that all he needed to do.

796
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: Can he take three? Can he drop back five? Can

797
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 2: his own read?

798
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 6: Can?

799
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 2: Can he do the stuff? Can he process information in

800
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 2: a hurry? Yeah, that's what the quarterback needs. He needs

801
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 2: to be confident. He needs to be able to process

802
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 2: information in the hurry, and he needs to be able

803
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: to retain information. I mean he he's shown you he

804
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: could do that ever since he I mean from from

805
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: middle school to high school to college. So let's see

806
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: if that is that's transferable. I like to think I

807
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 2: don't like to think that it is. But you don't know, Tye.

808
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: You know this same thing with all sports. You don't

809
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: know what you have in a guy until you get

810
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: him in your building and put him in your uniborn.

811
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: That's when you're one know for certain what the hell

812
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: I got? Yeah, because all this other stuff. Boy, he

813
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: won this award and he did all this, and he

814
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 2: did all of that. And I've seen it having played

815
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Guys come in and have all these

816
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: credentials and I don't know how they Hey, somebody gave

817
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: you a fake passport, cause I don't know how you

818
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: get all I don't know how you get all that.

819
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 7: Let me ask you, guys, in football, is it about

820
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 7: the number or is it more about the fit?

821
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: Fit?

822
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 7: It's always gonna be fit. It's always gonna be fit,

823
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 7: so always do you guys think? So if you had

824
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 7: to grade this fit, where would you guys go?

825
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 4: Right now?

826
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: I know you gotta go compete. I like New Orleans fit.

827
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: I would have liked New Orleans a little better.

828
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 4: I would like New Orleans better too.

829
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: But the thing is now, because I was telling not

830
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: what your last night is that I went to a

831
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 2: team I was a big wide receiver. I went to

832
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 2: one of the three teams that had the he back position.

833
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: Washington had the age back position. The Broncos had the

834
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: h back position, and uh uh the Chargers, uh San

835
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: Diego there in San Diego then had the age back position.

836
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 2: Every tight end on the roster got hurt. I'm the

837
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 2: biggest receiver. Coach Reese, come a, would you be willing

838
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: to move to age back? I'm gonna catch the ball? Yeah,

839
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: if you threw me, if you you learned to plays Okay,

840
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: So now here I am a big wide receiver. Imagine

841
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 2: I don't go to a team that has age back position.

842
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 2: So I switched midway through like a third of the

843
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 2: way I have like probably like week eight, Week nine,

844
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 2: Week ten, they moved me to like tight end ta

845
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: and the rest of that they say history. So it's

846
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: absolutely where you go. Not I get it because a

847
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: lot of times twin you know this first four or

848
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: five picks, they get a boatload of money. Now you

849
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: want to make a boatload of money for a short

850
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: period of time, for an extended period of time. Because

851
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: I had a fourteen year career. There are a lot

852
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 2: of guys that went in the first round on show.

853
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: They made money for a three four year period. I

854
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: made money for a fourteen year period. It's not how

855
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: much money you make, it's how long you make money

856
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: and then what are you going to do. It's not

857
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 2: how much money you make, it's how much you keep.

858
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: So it's absolutely twe.

859
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 4: Fit, where you go that fit, and what they do

860
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 4: for you while you're there.

861
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 7: For him too, though, he got he's made a little

862
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 7: money in the anil space too.

863
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay.

864
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: Had he known what he known, he stayed in college

865
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: and made some more nil money. He like, hell, if

866
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 2: y'all go take me to field ground. He made more

867
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 2: thing and I'm ailing, what is rook your contract?

868
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 1: Go to your joke? Yeah?

869
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh wow, that is right.

870
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 4: Wow, listen, I think I think the situation in general

871
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 4: is good for him.

872
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: It puts a chip on the shoulder. Oh this is

873
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,959
Speaker 3: this is how you feel about me? Okay, bet hold

874
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 3: my beer, I got this. Watch me listen. I faced

875
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 3: adversity before. I've had the hurdle obstacles before. This is

876
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 3: just another one that's in the way.

877
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 4: I'm going to show you.

878
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 3: I'm going to prove to you that I'm worthy of

879
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:36,959
Speaker 3: doing all the things you said I can't.

880
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 4: Oh you feel I'm a fifth round pick. I mean

881
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 4: I'm I'm a fifth rounder. Okay, bet I'm not. I'm

882
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 4: not tripping. I'm not. I'm not tripping on again. Chadors

883
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 4: a chat. I know y'all can hear me. Chador's situation

884
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 4: as simple as this. It was delayed. It wasn't he

885
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 4: one denied, that's all.

886
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

887
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: Now when you get there, hey, do what you're supposed

888
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: to do and everything else to take care of himself.

889
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: Will nobody care where you got drafted at?

890
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: And he had to wait.

891
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: That was so disappointed, and they prank calling him and

892
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 2: doing all this other stuff.

893
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: When you go do what you need to do, everything

894
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: is fine. Everything