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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Thank you

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Speaker 1: all for joining us. We're so excited to be back.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing, Susan.

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Speaker 2: We especially loved doing this one because it was all

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Speaker 2: about this week's episode. Oh my goodness, where do we start?

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Speaker 1: You know, what? Where do you want to start? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know where do you want to start? Wait?

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Speaker 2: Roasting metw like that's new. I can imagine the women thinking, wait,

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Speaker 2: we have to say terrible things about him, we're trying

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Speaker 2: to win him.

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, let me just say again, as

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Speaker 1: a woman of a certain age, what an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: roast the hell out of him? Oh no, it's just joking,

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Speaker 1: just a joke. I mean to throw it all at him.

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Speaker 1: So I thought that was Jared, Jared Ared. Oh, by

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Speaker 1: the way, can I just say, Jared, if you're listening,

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Speaker 1: you know what. I may be a woman of a

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Speaker 1: certain age, but I could take care of you. I

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Speaker 1: think he is hysterical.

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Speaker 2: Is hysterical? I agree? I agree?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I loved but we got to start at

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Speaker 1: the beginning, before the roast Terry going after Nicole. I

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Speaker 1: want to know. I know we talked about this last week.

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Speaker 1: But I still and I like Nicole, but I have

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Speaker 1: an issue as a mom and a woman of a

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Speaker 1: certain age sort of just macking on this guy in

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Speaker 1: the pool and Terry goes after I thought in a

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Speaker 1: respectful way.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, Terry let her know that they that's something

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Speaker 2: they wouldn't do and they didn't really approve of it.

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Speaker 2: And Nicole's like, hey, it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: I know, but don't you again with the twenty somethings

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Speaker 1: the thirty somethings, I don't know, Susan. I feel like,

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Speaker 1: as Golden's we're supposed to be a step above that.

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Speaker 1: I just keep coming back to that, and I don't

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Speaker 1: like seeing Caddy behavior. I just don't. I don't like it.

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Speaker 2: How about how about what Cheryl said he was a

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Speaker 2: little cheesy and square and he reminded her of a

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Speaker 2: New York style pizza.

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Speaker 1: I say that was like, yeah, I mean, okay, but

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Speaker 1: cute line. But I'm rob wait, you you're in the roast.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about the beginning. Before the roast even begins,

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Speaker 1: Cindy is sitting there crying. I don't know where this

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Speaker 1: is going, but it looks to me like Cindy is

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Speaker 1: going to be a major player in this in this show.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they just she's she's narrating, she's you know,

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Speaker 1: she's she's tearing up. Yeah, I smitten. And you know

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Speaker 1: when when she said, I'm not okay with Mel trying

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Speaker 1: to explore with other women, Yes, and then she said,

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Speaker 1: and this is what I want to get to before

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Speaker 1: we get to the roast. She's been cheated on. And

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Speaker 1: I thought to myself, are we different at our age,

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Speaker 1: Susan that to be cheated on when you've got a

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Speaker 1: family with children. I mean, listen, my kids. I'm guessing

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Speaker 1: you know we're cheated on when they were dating. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I didn't ask them, but I just feel

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Speaker 1: like when you have a family and children.

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Speaker 2: And that Leslie, Leslie had the same cry that I

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Speaker 2: know nobody left her.

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Speaker 1: But don't you think it's like a to me, sad

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Speaker 1: is what it is.

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Speaker 2: It's had. But Cindy's sharing it about men cheating on

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Speaker 2: her in the past, and she's not okay watching Mel

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Speaker 2: be with other women. That tells me Cindy's in it

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Speaker 2: for real. Her heart is getting involved. I think she

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Speaker 2: really believes that there's a connection.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just I don't know, Maybe I'm just

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Speaker 1: maybe the problem for me is I'm not in it

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Speaker 1: like when we were on our show. I'm watching it

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Speaker 1: as a mom, as somebody who was on the Golden Bachelor,

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Speaker 1: as somebody who has children, And I'm thinking how hard

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Speaker 1: that must really be to talk about being cheated on

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Speaker 1: when you have a family, when you've had so many

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Speaker 1: years with a spouse. I don't know. That just really

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Speaker 1: struck me. And then the other thing.

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Speaker 2: To hear it was and then I goes out to her,

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Speaker 2: what about Amy? And I'm the only one that cooks

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Speaker 2: and clean Kathy, do you remember being in that house?

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Speaker 2: What is the first thing I said to you? What

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Speaker 2: the hell? You girls don't clean up? Everybody pick up

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Speaker 2: after themselves. The dishes were piled up. I'm like, who

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Speaker 2: is in charge over here?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I get it. You know, Susan is

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Speaker 1: the cleaner of the center here. But wait before again,

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Speaker 1: I want to get to the roast. But the other

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Speaker 1: thing when Debbie said at the very beginning, Debbie, For

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Speaker 1: anyone who does remember, Debbie is sixty five and she's

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Speaker 1: never been married. She owys but her career first. But

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Speaker 1: she said she's ready now. And she said, you know,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how old you are, you are worthy.

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Speaker 1: And she was saying, it's a glimpse of how life

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Speaker 1: could be on her on her one on one date

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Speaker 1: with him, and I know I'm jumping ahead, but.

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Speaker 2: You are, You're way ahead of Well, it's.

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Speaker 1: The themes though, It is the theme of feeling worthy

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Speaker 1: at any age, and that it's never too late, and.

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Speaker 2: And and shows that I quote later on, I'll quote

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Speaker 2: what he said, which was our message coming off the

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Speaker 2: show exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's all the same.

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Speaker 2: And I know that show is about finding love. Well,

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Speaker 2: I agree, some people might be there for the wrong reasons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very true. But when she's back, just okay,

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Speaker 1: can we get back though? Can we come back to Debbie?

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Speaker 1: Because I thought definitely, all right, all right, let's go

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Speaker 1: back to the roast.

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Speaker 2: Hysterical Robin put their foot in the mountains in the

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Speaker 2: shoes and says, it's like a slipperly slow. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I could have come up with

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Speaker 1: I mean they were I don't know if they had

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Speaker 1: to help writing this stuff, because you know, I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: quick witted, and I was like, oh my god, that's genius.

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Speaker 2: Kathy.

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Speaker 1: Who was it?

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Speaker 2: Was it Carol that didn't have her glasses because I

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Speaker 2: can't write. I can't write, I don't know my glasses.

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Speaker 1: And can I say to you? I felt for that

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Speaker 1: because how many times I'm the girl you can see

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Speaker 1: me right now with glasses on. I have to wear

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Speaker 1: just thought when I was watching that, I'm thinking, yep,

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Speaker 1: there's age for you right there. Can you imagine a

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Speaker 1: twenty year old running around saying any of my glasses?

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Speaker 1: That was a golden moment for sure, and that really

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Speaker 1: was me Monica B I just loved it. You know,

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Speaker 1: go over six. I mean, come on, these great But

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Speaker 1: I just as a thematic comment, I love the fact

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Speaker 1: that it gave these women a way to rip him

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Speaker 1: or not right, because I honestly think most of them

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Speaker 1: had accepted his apology. But it was humor. It was funny.

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Speaker 1: He took it well. I thought he took it.

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Speaker 2: When he isn't to me, mister personality Okay, I need

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Speaker 2: to see Mel. Get me some more energy, baby. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're doing everything right, You're saying the right things. Blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah. Show me something. He's just kind of there

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Speaker 1: He seems, you know, he keeps making I agree with

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Speaker 1: these susan, he keeps making comments about, you know, these women,

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Speaker 1: what they're doing. I'm like, Mel, what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Like he seems a little stiff. I want to know

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Speaker 1: what he's feeling. I feel like Gary on our season

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Speaker 2: He was very good sharing his emotions.

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Speaker 1: Well we know that, but let's but let's go back

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Speaker 1: to a minute for Mel. You know, he's not you know,

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Speaker 1: he's a sports attorney and a football football player now

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Speaker 1: But I keep thinking, you know, he's like a deer

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Speaker 2: I wonder, is he really uptight? Like says he is

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Speaker 2: it because it's stage fright. You know you're being filmed,

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Speaker 2: And and he redeemed himself and apologized profusely when this

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Speaker 2: all started. Is it part of that that he feels

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Speaker 2: I don't know, But I don't know. But Mel, get lose.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I've been saving this, Susan since last week. I've

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Speaker 1: been saving this for you. That's your nation. I have

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Speaker 1: been saving this all right. When they showed Mel's package

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Speaker 1: at the very beginning, and he's with his boys in

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Speaker 1: the kitchen, did you notice, I thought, melon, Susan never happening. Now,

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Speaker 1: it's nothing to do with her age. Did you notice

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Speaker 1: there were a sink full of dirty dishes? Go back

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Speaker 1: and watch, I thought, I I'll be so upset. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was like, well, that's it. You know, he may

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Speaker 1: not want that. She she would, now, she'd have your

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Speaker 2: Hey, I've been teaching my man who's been here for

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Speaker 2: three weeks. Don't leave that in the.

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Speaker 1: Same you mentioned Carol, I don't know. I'm all about themes.

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Speaker 1: You know, someone's just gonna for get me off this,

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Speaker 1: off this ledge hair. But I'm watching this show with

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Speaker 1: a very different attitude. I'm watching it as really, what

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Speaker 1: we what is batsl nation, seeing how are we different

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Speaker 1: from the young ones? So when Carol Ever said to him, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know what, she said, he wants to day forty

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Speaker 1: to sixty year olds. And she said that's the first

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Speaker 1: for And I thought, if that is an agentism right there,

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Speaker 1: like yeah, you Carol, Because do we hear women saying yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sixty and I want to date a guy forty?

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Speaker 1: We never hear it. So I was like, I it

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Speaker 1: was funny, but as a woman, I loved hearing that,

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Speaker 1: like women can day younger men.

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Speaker 2: Yes, But also when they were chatting, I think she

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Speaker 2: kind of ran out of things to say, like she

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Speaker 2: said she was handsome, and then about the first kiss,

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Speaker 2: she felt like a teenager. And this one's for all

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Speaker 2: you shy girls. We had that one on one conversation

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Speaker 2: and it's like, go for it if you really this

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Speaker 2: situation is so different than everyday, normal life meeting somebody.

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Speaker 2: Am I right? Catch it is got ten other girls

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Speaker 2: going after the same man, So you need to put

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Speaker 2: out there what do you want?

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Speaker 1: So? Can we can? We can? We we jump ahead

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Speaker 1: to the pajama party. I still want to come back

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Speaker 1: to Debbie in that one on one date.

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Speaker 2: But well, let's do Debbie. Debbie gets so emotional. Oh

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Speaker 2: my god.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so, but did you not think that? To me,

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Speaker 1: Debbie was like the hopeful romantic cooking with him, a

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Speaker 1: glimpse of how life.

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Speaker 2: Star chef I would have been in my glory. But

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Speaker 2: he was very attentive. He was very affectionate, right. I

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think he was overally affectionate, but okay.

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Speaker 2: And he said Debbie is his type.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he did say that, but I'm not sure what

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Speaker 1: his type is yet. But again, Debbie's saying how great

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Speaker 2: Were opening up and being vulnerable by saying those things too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and so I've got a problem and

434
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: I like Mel. Again, I have to repeat I've not

435
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: met him yet. I think he's a good looking man.

436
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: I mean, jumping in the pool with sneakers. I'm not

437
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 1: sure I would have done it, but you know whatever, definitely,

438
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: I mean whatever.

439
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 2: But we know this show is about finding love just

440
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 2: having fun.

441
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: Right, and so it's always fun. And that's what that's

442
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: what's bothering you about his toast. It's to love, not

443
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 1: finding love. He just he said it twice and now love,

444
00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: happiness and fun. And you know that's the other thing

445
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: that he keeps saying is in different you know, iterations,

446
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 1: he says all of this, all of the women, they

447
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: all have a fit for me. In other words, what

448
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: I took it to mean is there's bits and pieces

449
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: of each woman. Yeah, And I'm like, so, you know,

450
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: Kathy analytical. Kathy starts thinking if I were one of them,

451
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to be the one left behind. Do

452
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Speaker 1: you know what you want? Mal, You're sixty six years old.

453
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Speaker 1: Do you know what you want? Because you know, if

454
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Speaker 1: I go out on a date with six guys, you know,

455
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Speaker 1: in six different dates, I might say to you, Susan,

456
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: I went on six dates. But I'm going to say

457
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: also say to you, I can only see dating this

458
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: guy or maybe two guys, not all of these women.

459
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Speaker 2: So that's feeling a connection right now, I know.

460
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Speaker 1: But don't you Is that a concern to you at all?

461
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Speaker 2: That that I think every single person as a lead

462
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: has to go through that every one I've ever seen

463
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 2: is the same. They don't know yet.

464
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Speaker 1: Okay, but we're on We're on episode three, we're like

465
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: a third of the way through, and either again just

466
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 1: getting oh yeah, I don't know.

467
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 2: To some of the notes that I wrote. Again, I

468
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: really like Mail. However he's not giving me enough. I

469
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 2: don't know if it's not enough energy, but there's something

470
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: missing here.

471
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Speaker 1: Wait wait wait, wait, wait wait, wait back up, repeat

472
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Speaker 1: what you just said for me.

473
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Speaker 2: I really like Mail, However he is not giving me enough.

474
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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's not enough energy, but there's

475
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Speaker 2: something missing. I can't quite put my finger on it.

476
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 2: And that's saying if it were me dating him, just

477
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 2: think something's not one hundred percent there. Maybe he's a

478
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 2: quiet guy. I mean, I give anybody and everybody the

479
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt. However, show me something else. Show

480
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 2: me some energy, baby, show me where your heart's going.

481
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: He's not given that and maybe not yet because it

482
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 2: is weak three.

483
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 1: So I'm just going to say what you just said.

484
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,479
Speaker 1: It's only if you say it's only week three, So

485
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: maybe that's part of it. But I feel like, like

486
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: I said, I want to like him, I want to

487
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: meet him. I feel like he's stiff. That's the where

488
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: he keeps coming to me. However, I'm guessing, but.

489
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 2: That smile is real, right, he does smile with them.

490
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: And I think he has a calm demeanor. I think

491
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: it's a football player. I'm just being honest. I don't know,

492
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: but I'm guessing. You know, his back hurts, his neck hurts,

493
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: his legs hurt, his knees hurt. God knows, his feet

494
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: hurt because leather shoes are not in his vocabulary. But

495
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: that's so I am struggling here with what. You just

496
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head something?

497
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Speaker 2: Who with hill? What is it?

498
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Speaker 1: Who are you tell us? Yeah? And I even though

499
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: he may not know which woman he wants again, I

500
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: would love to hear what he's looking for. And I'm

501
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: not getting that yet.

502
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: He hasn't shared it though.

503
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: So that's why let me let me read. That's why

504
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: I said to you, Does he know what he wants

505
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: uh or is or is? You know, he wants bits

506
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: and pieces of whatever. We're down to eleven women. I

507
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,239
Speaker 1: I I was not surprised. I like Amy. I mean,

508
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: come on, that girl's Northeastern girl. She's got a lot

509
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: of energy. Monica, Monica Terry and and Monica Pete. So

510
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: the two Monica's Terry and Amy. I we don't know. Again,

511
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: we're not privy to all the conversations, so we don't

512
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: really know why. But the ones that he kept, he said,

513
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: there's pie says of each one. So I'm and let

514
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: me just.

515
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 2: Say something about it, each one of them that he

516
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 2: is attracted to. One thing's there.

517
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: I can tell how this game works, right, Can I

518
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: just tell you the piece that's working with Cindy is

519
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: that girl rocks a bikini and looks great with the

520
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: ocean washing over while they're making out. I'm telling you

521
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: it looks it was like a B movie right there.

522
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 2: And you know she gets like real sappy and cry

523
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: because she's really into it. And then she's so fun

524
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 2: and sure of herself when she's having a conversation. I

525
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 2: really like her.

526
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: Wait, can I just say I'm going to take lessons

527
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: from that again. You know I need help dating Alli

528
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: out there. I need help, So you know, did you

529
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: see I'm watching I don't know why, Susan, I keep

530
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: telling you, I'm watching this episode, this series, this show

531
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: so carefully. I'm watching Cindy. I think they have a connection.

532
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm watching. I'm watching her put her hand on his

533
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: arm and her hand on his shoulder, and when she

534
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: kisses him, she's sort of gently puts her hands. I'm

535
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: taking lessons Sinday.

536
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: She's feeling. It's a feeling.

537
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: But do you see it with him? Do you think, like.

538
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: When then Cole kisses him, I feel like Nicole just

539
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: getting his attention, show him how good she can be

540
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: at this. I don't know if her heart's in it.

541
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: She just wants attention. I'm not sure about Nichole's long

542
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: term feeling about him. Yeah, I know she likes to

543
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: be front and center. She likes attention, and she likes

544
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: to kiss him.

545
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: Oh wait a minute, are we talking about Susan or Nicole?

546
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: Haha? I always front and center, but and you love attention.

547
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: I'm not kissing you know what, if I ever get

548
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: to see mel I'm going to say, could I be

549
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: Number twenty four. Oh my gosh, could you believe on

550
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: the show? By the way, I mean, this is what

551
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: happens to me. I say these things because it's just

552
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: what comes out of my mouth. I'm sure I'm gonna

553
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: take flak from that. I know every secret door in

554
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: this house, and I'm now I'm coming for you, like

555
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: you know, so when I see him, you know, I

556
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: may have to give him just a little pack if

557
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: I get to meet him.

558
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: I was impressed the way the house looked and our

559
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: candy jars, and that feeling that I had walking in

560
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: there was like, oh my god. The bathroom without the

561
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: mirror on the first floor.

562
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: All I can say is, after watching episode three, I

563
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: feel like something's building and then it ebbs and flows,

564
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,239
Speaker 1: and I want to see more of the flow. I

565
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: want to see Mel committing to something and someone a

566
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: little bit more than he is. I can't wait for

567
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: next week.

568
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: Yes, And did you happen to hear the Remember last

569
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: week the coming attractions, which I can't believe, as you said,

570
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: they didn't show you starting the fillip pillow fight with

571
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: the I remember catching that. This week, I caught something

572
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: that was like, oh, one of the young ladies saying

573
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: that they were having a conversation between them about the

574
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: reasons they're there.

575
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: Yes, and somebody said that somebody was there to be whatever,

576
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: and then they said yeah, and then one of them said,

577
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: here we go. I thought, oh, here we go. Someone said,

578
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: I don't remember which one she's here for the wrong reasons,

579
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: and Cindy pipes right up and says, you tell them,

580
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: and I thought, yes, Cindy spread the dirty workout. Let

581
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: somebody make him.

582
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: Robin's the one that there. And that reminded me of

583
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: stuff with us, like who's going to be the bad

584
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: guy and go tell him?

585
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: Hello, what's going on? Yeah? Hello? No, I know, but I.

586
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: Can't wait for us. I mean, these women watched us,

587
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: and then watch us now we knew nothing about social

588
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: media influencers. Whatever happened happened for us, and I feel blessed.

589
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 2: I mean, we have a podcast, we get to talk

590
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: about the show.

591
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? You got a guy listen,

592
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: you can talk about.

593
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: It wasn't on the damn show. It was two years later.

594
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'm waiting for the guy and it's his

595
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: two years later.

596
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: So I don't coming.

597
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: I don't get this coming. This year, okay, twenty twenty

598
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: five or twenty twenty.

599
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: Six, No, twenty five, okay, But but as Frederic would say,

600
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: but these women did they all go for love? Kathy?

601
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm well, I think as we keep

602
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: going through the season, everyone's motives are going to become

603
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: more clear. I think it's it's always Mel. I wouldn't

604
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: want to be in his shoes or in this case,

605
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: his sneakers for anything, because he is the guy that

606
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: has to judge these women and make choices. And you

607
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: know what I keep saying to you, I'm a woman

608
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: who supports women. I want them all to find love.

609
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: I want them all to find happiness. And next week,

610
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: you know, there's going to be more women going home.

611
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: But hopefully Mel is feeling more comfortable literally in his

612
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: sneakers and is letting loose and is going to start

613
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: opening up and let himself feel vulnerable.

614
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: The loosest I've seen is in that kitchen with the

615
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: chef there like he was whipping. They looked like they

616
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: were having fun. They really did. That was the best part.

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Speaker 1: But we'll see until next week.

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Speaker 2: Everybody enjoyed our comments and thoughts on this week's episode.

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Speaker 1: Let us know what you think. We're saying the same thing.

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Speaker 1: We want to know what you think. If you're enjoying

621
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Speaker 1: this season, We're with you, guys. We want Mel to

622
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: find love. We want everyone out there to find love.

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Speaker 1: So let us know what you're thinking. And until next week.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and be sure to follow Bachelor Happy Hour. We

625
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: have new episodes and we will talk about every episode

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Speaker 2: of this season, and so look forward to it.

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Speaker 1: And follow, follow us, and listen to Bachelor Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get

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Speaker 1: your podcasts. Until next time, Thank you,