1 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markoitz Show on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: It's been an insane few days, even if you're not 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: interested in politics. Joe Biden's performance at the debate is 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: sort of everywhere right now, and it has really shaken 5 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: people up. I've heard from kind of, you know, eight 6 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: political people. I know that they don't really feel like 7 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: he's in charge, and they're worried about what will happen 8 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: to the country. And frankly, some of these people voted 9 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: for him, So it's not just Donald Trump voters capitalizing 10 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: on a week Joe Biden. It's concerning. I know I've 11 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: been beating the analog summer drum a lot lately, but 12 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: it gets very easy to spiral. So yes, if you're prone. 13 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: To lining awake at night. 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: Wondering if we're going to get attacked while our president 15 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: is weak or something similar, yes you should say a 16 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: media break. It's a normal worry. But some people get 17 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: to a really bad place with things over which they 18 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: don't have much control, and it's a good way to 19 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: kind of reset and not stressed out about things. You 20 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: can't help analog summer think about it. 21 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 2: I'm about to do my yearly Twitter break. 22 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: I don't make an announcement or anything. I just disconnect 23 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: for a few weeks. I have some tweets lined up 24 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: about the show, just introducing different guests, but other than that, 25 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be on at all. I like 26 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: the disconnect. I like to take a few weeks off. 27 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: It really helps me. If you're struggling, think about taking 28 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: some time off. You'll hear the news if something big happens, 29 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: and you'll do that without immersing yourself. 30 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: In the worry. 31 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: Coming up next an interview with Tom Elliott. Join us 32 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: after the break. 33 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Carol Mark With show on iHeartRadio. 34 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 3: My guest today is Tom Elliott. Tom is the founder 35 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: of the news clipping platform Grabian. 36 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: Hi Tom, So nice to have you on. 37 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 4: So nice to be here. Thank you, Carol. 38 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 2: So the great. 39 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: Majority of my guests that I have on are friends 40 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: of mine, but you're one of my in real life, 41 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: really one of my best friends. And I'm the founder 42 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: and president of the Tom Elliott Fan Club, as you know. 43 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 3: But I didn't think you would do my show because 44 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 3: you tend not to do media. 45 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: And another friend of. 46 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 3: Mine, the poker player Shane Schlager actually was like, you 47 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 3: should have Tom Elliott on. 48 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: So I was ready to. 49 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 3: Pressure you, but you agreed despite lack of pressure. So 50 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 3: why do you not like doing interviews? Why do I 51 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: never see you on the media despite your very large, 52 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: larger than mine following on the Internet on the Twitter. 53 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 4: Well, I've worked with actual broadcasting professionals, and I know 54 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 4: that I don't have that gift. I've worked with Glory 55 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 4: and Gram and Peter Scheff, and they've got the gift 56 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 4: to get where you put a microphone in front of 57 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: them and just spontaneously they'll be interesting. I think I 58 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 4: have good ideas, but they're better expressed through written form, 59 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 4: typically where I can really obsess and fine tune everything. 60 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 4: So well, I disagree. You know, since it's your show, 61 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 4: I had no choice but to say yes. 62 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 3: That's how I want you to see it as having 63 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 3: no choice. So what made you start Gravyan And can 64 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: you tell us a little bit about like the path? 65 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 4: Sure? Well, basic synopsis of how I got there was 66 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 4: a very short version. In college, got interested in pre 67 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 4: market economics and conservative politics and started a newspaper called 68 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 4: The Counterweight at Buckenhell University. Gain some notoriety. There was 69 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 4: a New York Times magazine profile about me in the club. 70 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: It was really positive, right, it. 71 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 4: Was very positive about me. If you find it, you 72 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 4: should not read it in fact, but yeah, the guy 73 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 4: definitely had an extra grind against me. But anyway, that 74 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 4: helped me start a career in journalism. So after college, 75 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 4: did some traveling around the world in fact, and then 76 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 4: after that started working at the New York Sun, and 77 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 4: then from New York Sun went to the New York 78 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 4: Post working on their editorial page. And then Laura Ingram 79 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 4: hired me to be her executive producer, and so I 80 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 4: was working there for many years. And that is a 81 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 4: very difficult job. One of the things that you need 82 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: to do is create the sound clips that you play 83 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,239 Speaker 4: on the air, and so that required recording the news 84 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 4: pretty much all the time, editing the clips, transcribing them, 85 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 4: sending them back and forth, and the whole process is 86 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 4: just extremely laborious. And so I was always frustrated because 87 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 4: there were other radio shows that I knew were at 88 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 4: that time watching the Obama speeches or the press conferences 89 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 4: or whatever. But why can't we just kind of like 90 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 4: pool our efforts, Like I don't know, like shows that 91 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 4: went before us could potentially help us with that, and 92 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 4: so I thought it wouldn't it be great to have 93 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 4: some kind of communal database where all the producers are 94 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 4: putting the clips that they're creating. So the original idea 95 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 4: was to have some kind of market where somebody would 96 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 4: upload a clip and then other people would download it 97 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 4: and there would be you know, commissions, But because producers 98 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 4: are already overworked as it is, that model didn't really 99 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 4: work perfectly, and instead, what I ended up doing is 100 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 4: hiring producers to clip the news twenty four to seven 101 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 4: so that all these media outlets can instead outsource their 102 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 4: news production to Grabyan. So basically all the major stuff 103 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 4: that's happening every day, we're clipping. In fact, after I 104 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 4: left the Lori Ingram Show, Peter Schiff hired me to 105 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 4: start a radio show, and so I was working for 106 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 4: him while proposing this idea of Grabyan. Back then it 107 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 4: was called something Different, and he was like, I just 108 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 4: want you to focus on the radio show. Well, I 109 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 4: think it's a good idea, so I'm just going to 110 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 4: do it myself, which I'm glad that he turned it 111 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 4: down because now it's just mine, but anyway, and then 112 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 4: along the way, so the original model was just having 113 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 4: this database of news clips, and then we started adding 114 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 4: all these tools so that people can create their own 115 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 4: news clips. And so basically now we're recording massive amounts 116 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 4: of news content, so hundreds of live simultaneous news feeds 117 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 4: from around the world constantly every day, and in fact, 118 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 4: just passed three million full length news program recordings. Wow. 119 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 4: So every day adding news stations and people can tune 120 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 4: in live. Producers can tune in live to any kind 121 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 4: of news feed from anywhere in the country and create 122 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 4: clips in real time. Everything is being transcribed in real time. 123 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 4: And then we also have tools where you can monitor 124 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 4: dozens literally dozens of simultaneous news feeds and and clip 125 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 4: them all simultaneously as well. So basically everything that was 126 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 4: a pain point when you're producing a media program like 127 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 4: a radio show, we're trying to solve and so still 128 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 4: still adding new things all the time. And that's what 129 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 4: I love about it. It's just like it's a blank 130 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 4: slate that I can just continue to innovate on top 131 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 4: of it. 132 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: So amazing. I mean, I've heard people, you know, rave 133 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: about it, call it essential. Obviously, I use it a lot. 134 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 3: I love your everybody loves your compilation videos, kind of 135 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: your receipts videos. When when a politician says something and 136 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: you're like, well, actually, here are the hundred times you 137 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 3: said something else, or along those lines. 138 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 4: What's helpful, I think is just having a system of accountability. 139 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 4: So it's like politicians kind of count on people to 140 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 4: have a short term memory, so having a very easy 141 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 4: way to access their previous statements is very useful in 142 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 4: trying to hold them accountable. So that's I think where 143 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 4: we can play a role and this participative democracy that 144 00:07:59,080 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 4: we have. 145 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: So you've actually started a unrelated business. You live in Madrid, Spain, 146 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: and you started this business in Spain. Can you tell 147 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: us a little bit about it. It's called Biospa. 148 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 4: Yes, so yeah, I've kind of been doing the xpat 149 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 4: thing for a while now. In fact, I was in 150 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 4: DC when we were doing the Petership show in the 151 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: Loringram Show, and then moved to Canada for my now 152 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 4: ex wife's company, and from Canada to South Korea and 153 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 4: we're living there for a couple of years. And then 154 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 4: she got hired by a different defense company and moved 155 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 4: to Madrid, Spain. And when we were there, I mean 156 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 4: ultimately that marriage has ended. And during that process of 157 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 4: trying to preserve my sanity and my health, I decided 158 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 4: to just like fully focus on my health. And I 159 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 4: was already. 160 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: You get the sanity right basically, so I was. 161 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 4: Already getting interested. I've been interested in this since we 162 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 4: interviewed you know, Mark System by any chance, he's the 163 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 4: guy that started the primal slash paleo eating movement. He's 164 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 4: the author. He had a Crimal is the name of 165 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 4: his company, I think Primal Foods, And anyway, we had 166 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 4: him on the Leadership show, and when I was researching it, 167 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 4: I was realizing that everything he was saying made perfect 168 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 4: sense to me. And at the time I was pretty 169 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 4: fat in fact, and had low energy, and he was 170 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 4: talking about eating healthy and natural foods and basically it 171 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 4: will have a lot more energy naturally, and I was like, well, 172 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 4: that's what I need, and so I decided to try 173 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 4: it and immediately noticed that I was feeling better. So 174 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 4: I then went from him into these other health experts, 175 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 4: I guess like podcasters like Ben Greenfield and Dave Assbrie, 176 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 4: and kind of went from healthy eating into biohacking. And 177 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 4: that's just like started this journey of self optimization. And 178 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 4: so when this divorce happened and I was just like, 179 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 4: I can't allow this to just crush my life. I 180 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 4: decided to spend some money on myself. And the idea was, 181 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 4: rather than just spend it literally on myself, wouldn't it 182 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 4: make more sense to make it like a commercial enterprise 183 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 4: where if I'm going to buy some expensive machine that's 184 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 4: supposed to optimize your health, make it available for people. 185 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 4: So kind of like a gym where you pay monthly 186 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 4: membership and you can access all of these tools that 187 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 4: are normally reserved for celebrities and professional athletes and stuff 188 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 4: like that. So started out with just some basic things 189 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 4: like an infrared sauna, which in the United States it's 190 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 4: much more common than in Spain. I was looking myself 191 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 4: for a place like this in Madrid and they didn't 192 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 4: have anywhere with an inpred sauna. And then a cryotherapy machine, 193 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 4: which nowadays is. 194 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: Very popular here in Florida. 195 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 4: Now yeah, well now I'm more into the ice bath scene, 196 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 4: but cryotherapy is like the thing that's kind of trendy 197 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 4: and cool, so people are always curious to try it. 198 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 4: And then we've kind of incrementally added more things. So 199 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 4: now I've got something called a biocharger and hyperbaric oxygen chamber, 200 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 4: and a nice bath and a float tank. I don't 201 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 4: know if you've ever done that, but it's pretty incredible. 202 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 4: So basically, i'll just explain it quickly. It's also called 203 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 4: a sensory deprivation tank. So you go inside and it's 204 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 4: like a giant clam and the water has more than 205 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 4: one two hundred pounds of salt in it, and the 206 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 4: water is your body temperature ninety eight point six, and 207 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 4: so basically you're floating on the surface because there's so 208 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 4: much salt. And once you get in, there's some relaxing 209 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 4: music that plays, and then you close the clamshell, and 210 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 4: then what you should do is turn off the light. 211 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 4: You don't have to turn off the light, you you should. 212 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 4: And so because there's nothing to look at and there's 213 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 4: nothing to hear, and there's nothing to feel because you're 214 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 4: floating and the temperature is the same as your body, 215 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 4: your brain has no stimulus to process and so as 216 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 4: a result of that, it's like being back inside of 217 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 4: your mother's womb to your brain instead of trying to 218 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 4: just like process external stimuli is instead repairing itself and 219 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 4: your physical body, and so the end result is like 220 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 4: it's like a very deep meditation process, except we don't 221 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 4: have to be an expert meditator to get the benefits 222 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 4: of this like profound meditation. Right, So you normally go 223 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 4: in for an hour, but I've heard some people go 224 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 4: in it's like much much longer, like six hours. You 225 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 4: normally go into like a weird trance, and some people 226 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 4: are even like having psychedelic experiences in there, So you 227 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 4: never really know what's going to happen, but it's it's 228 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 4: something that every time you use it, you get out 229 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 4: feeling much better and you sleep better, you have less stress, 230 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 4: and you just feel more creative and confident. So that's 231 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 4: a good one. 232 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: How much do you charge for like services like this? 233 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: What is it? 234 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 4: That is? Like fifty euros maybe, but if you are 235 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 4: friends with Tom then sometimes it's cheaper. 236 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: Right if you're Madrid. You know, just just meant but. 237 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say. We also have a machine 238 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 4: called a vaspur, which is pretty cool. I was using 239 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 4: earlier today viber genetics, which is like sound therapy. It's 240 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 4: like this crazy machine that you stand on top of, 241 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 4: and it's it's like a vibration plate that you have 242 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 4: in a gym, and except instead of just a mechanical vibration, 243 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 4: it's actually this massive speaker and so rather than just 244 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 4: a mechanical vibration, you're being vibrated by frequencies. And so 245 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 4: the doctor that created this machine is into both Western 246 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 4: and Eastern traditions, and so there's all these different types 247 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 4: of frequencies for you know, like fat loss, energy, stress, whatever, 248 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: athletic performance, but also more esoteric things like your chakras 249 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 4: and how are you such a hippie because the hippies 250 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 4: have it figured out what the world needs is good vibes. 251 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: So not untrue. 252 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 3: But you know, I remember you showed up in New 253 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 3: York a few years ago with the or ring, right, 254 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 3: and I enjoyed. 255 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: Making fun of you. But like then, everybody had it a. 256 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 3: Few years later, Yeah, everybody copies you. 257 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 4: I know. I started the aviator thing too, by. 258 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: The way, aviator glasses. 259 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was and then suddenly it became a huge thing. 260 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 4: Also Happy Friday, I started that. 261 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: Oh that was you too. 262 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 3: Well, I'm happy I say I started the Free State 263 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: of Florida that saying, but you know, I. 264 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: Can't really prove it. 265 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 4: Well, I can't prove any of my statements either make them. 266 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: So you have these successful cool things. 267 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Madred, I don't know if you've heard of that. 268 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: I haven't heard of any of this. 269 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 4: This is all all well. I could also go off 270 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 4: on the bastard. But the hypoxia is basically oxygen friction, 271 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 4: so you can do it both. I mean the normal 272 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 4: thing is to do it while laying down, and so 273 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 4: it's intervaling back and forth between hypoxia like low oxygen hyperpoxia, which. 274 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: Is high I don't know. Yeah, this is get. 275 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's like training your lungs to perform at 276 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 4: a higher level so that when you're in a normal, 277 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 4: normoxy estate, your bodily systems are working more optimally. 278 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 3: So think said on the Carol Marko, which show should 279 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 3: be taken as medical advice. Friends, This is all for 280 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 3: informational purposes only. 281 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, good guys, not my fault. I mean the professional 282 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 4: athletes are always training at high altitudes, and so basically 283 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 4: you're replicating that kind of training but in a machine. 284 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 4: And so I will also combine this with exercise so 285 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 4: it's like restricting oxygen while exercising to just get even 286 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 4: more tortured. But the normal thing is not to go 287 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 4: that far and to instead just kind of do it 288 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 4: while laying down. But that is our latest addition and 289 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 4: I'm pretty into it these days. That's yeah, it. 290 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 3: All sounds really really cool. Biospa in Madrid. If you 291 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 3: are in town, go visit. We're going to take a 292 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 3: quick break and be right back on the Carol Marcowitch Show. 293 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 3: So I wanted to say that you have, you know, 294 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: a successful business in Graby and you have another successful 295 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 3: business in Biospa. I know, you have four amazing kids, 296 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 3: you just had a daughter, and. 297 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: Do you feel like you've made it? Are you where 298 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 2: you want to be? 299 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 4: No? I don't. I mean I feel grateful that my 300 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 4: first company, which by the way, took a long time 301 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 4: to be successful enough where I would actually even get 302 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 4: any money out of it. So it was at least 303 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 4: seven years of work. And when I mean work, I 304 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 4: mean like every single day from the morment I woke 305 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 4: up till overnight, and when I was living in Korea, 306 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 4: I had to do it overnight because I had to 307 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 4: be on the US, like you know, news cycle, and 308 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 4: so I was literally waking up at like four pm 309 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 4: I think, and then going to bed at ten in 310 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 4: the morning something like that, and some total vampire for 311 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 4: two years. It was not that good but NonStop work. 312 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 4: So it was. It was a hard slog for many, 313 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 4: many years, and there was just in terms of like 314 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 4: looking at the numbers every day, it was always miserable 315 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 4: and there was no reason to think that it was 316 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 4: ever going to work. But finally, after like eight years 317 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 4: of just relentless perseverance, finally started turning around. I mean 318 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 4: it was always growing, but just so slowly, and I 319 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 4: was always just putting more stuff into it. But anyway, 320 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 4: so now thankfully it's big enough where I am able 321 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 4: to like step back a little bit and have more 322 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 4: freedom and sometimes not work and everything is going to 323 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 4: be soooth sailing for the most part. So I'm very 324 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 4: grateful for that. But in terms of like have I 325 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 4: made it, definitely not, because I have so many more 326 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 4: projects and objectives to go, ambitions I'm always wanting. The 327 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 4: more I learn, also the more I want to learn, 328 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 4: and so I'm just realizing how little I know the 329 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 4: more I learn, and I am just constantly as soon 330 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 4: as I finish one book, I'm like, oh, now I 331 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 4: need to read this other thing. And the last couple 332 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 4: of years, I've just been on this like obsessive book 333 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 4: reading vendor, and now I'm I can see this going 334 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 4: until my list of objectives is so big. I don't 335 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 4: think that it's possible to finish before I die. And 336 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 4: I don't think that anybody should ever feel like they've 337 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 4: made it, because once you're in that mind state, then 338 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 4: you become complacent, then you become lazy, then you become useless, 339 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 4: and so you should always be adding value. You should 340 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 4: always be trying to grow and do something new. 341 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 3: I think sometimes people think they've made it and then 342 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 3: they change their minds. It's not always like I've made 343 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 3: it and that's it. But I think that I get 344 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 3: such a wide range of answers on this from all 345 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 3: kinds of people that I feel like I can ask 346 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 3: them two years later and maybe they will have said 347 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: that they did have made it, or you know, maybe 348 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 3: they were wrong before, et cetera. But it's funny because also, 349 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 3: like a thing that we talk a lot about in 350 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: this show is how reading reading makes your just life 351 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 3: better and it adds value to it, but then it's 352 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 3: pretty hard to accomplish that. People find it, you know, 353 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 3: hard to find time to read. It's you know, that 354 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 3: kind of thing. But you're like tearing through books. This 355 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 3: is like a thing you're doing. 356 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 4: Well, I think that people making us. 357 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 3: Feel bad, Well, I'm trying to read one fiction book 358 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 3: a month. 359 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 4: Before years ago or three years ago, I was going 360 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 4: at like one book every six months or something. And 361 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 4: then it was because I was reading just the stuff 362 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 4: that I've been reading for a long time, which is 363 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 4: these like classic treaties of philosophy and stuff, and it's 364 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 4: like a sludge to get through, you know, so right, 365 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 4: and then I read some book about like the jfk 366 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 4: assassination or something. It was one of these page turners, 367 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 4: and I was like, well, I could just read books 368 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 4: that are on and interesting to read. And that just 369 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 4: began this process of like, why don't I just read 370 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 4: books that are like fun to read, interesting And that's 371 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 4: and when you're doing that, then you make time to 372 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 4: read because you're so interested in the content that you're 373 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 4: just like like I would be walking through the park 374 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 4: carrying a book or you know, walking around the house 375 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 4: reading a book, and you know, it's it's when you 376 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 4: find something that actually engages you that it's hard to 377 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 4: stop reading it, in fact, and so the people that 378 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 4: are not reading books these days are just not reading 379 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 4: good books. Like if you just try a book that 380 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 4: is actually interesting to you and you'll find that, in fact, 381 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 4: it's very easy to read a book. So I recommend 382 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 4: everybody read more books and use less Twitter. 383 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 3: Okay, I mean I'm going to, you know, ask you 384 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 3: later for your best tip of life advice. I'm going 385 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 3: to assume that that's not necessarily it, but it's a 386 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 3: it's a good additional piece to add that to my book. 387 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: All right, I will. 388 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 3: So you live in Spain, but you write a lot 389 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 3: about or you tweet a lot about American issues. I 390 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 3: guess the question I ask all my guests is is 391 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 3: what do you consider our largest cultural issue? And I 392 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 3: don't know if for you that means in America or 393 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 3: in the world, or you know, however you want to 394 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 3: answer that. 395 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 4: Well, I think it's the same problem throughout the world, 396 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 4: which is this is maybe more of a political problem 397 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 4: than a social problem, but it's the concentration of power, 398 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 4: the centralization of power specifically, so in the United States, 399 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 4: it's such a big country, and it's designed to keep 400 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 4: power distributed at the local level, and unfortunately, over the 401 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 4: last one hundred and fifty years or so, the federal 402 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 4: government has slowly usurped that power and made it more 403 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 4: difficult for states to retain their power and thus the 404 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 4: people to retain their power. And so the more consolidated 405 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 4: decision making becomes, the more stagnant society becomes, and the 406 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 4: less progress we make. So that is the issue that 407 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 4: we're dealing with now, and it's hard to fix that 408 00:21:55,640 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 4: problem because it's hard for states to reclaim power or 409 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 4: the people to reclaim their power, because the politicians are 410 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 4: always very zealously on guard. And so I don't know, 411 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 4: but I mean, I think that you're seeing, especially during 412 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 4: COVID and things like that, that the people that are 413 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 4: supposedly the experts that we thought we could trust are 414 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,239 Speaker 4: some of the least trustworthy people out there. And so 415 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 4: it's become i think, more important than ever for people 416 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 4: to value their freedom and their independence and to try 417 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 4: to preserve their power and take back their power. But 418 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 4: it's one of these trends that it's very challenging to overcome, 419 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 4: and so in Europe, there's the European Union, and that 420 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 4: is the same kind of thing, where it's making decisions 421 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 4: for an entire continent. And just as an example, I 422 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 4: tried to buy, of course, like a supplement recently in 423 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 4: the College Genius it's called, and so it's like it's 424 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 4: a college in with some random mushrooms that are good 425 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 4: for your brain. And the apparently you can't import it 426 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 4: to Spain because bureaucrats in the EU have said that 427 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 4: the colleging content is too high, and so it's like 428 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 4: the most absurd thing to me is that, like there's 429 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 4: some bureaucrats that have decided for every single European what 430 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 4: the correct amount of collagen is. And of course you 431 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 4: don't have to put in like a full scoop if 432 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 4: you think it's too much. But that's the kind of 433 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 4: thing that's just annoying, I think, to people. But you 434 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 4: have to be aware of whenever there's one of these 435 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 4: new international organizations, it becomes very difficult to protect power. 436 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 4: So I think people. 437 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 3: Been so easily, like I don't even think I think 438 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 3: people would just be like, oh, well, the government wants 439 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 3: what's best for me, so obviously I shouldn't be taking 440 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 3: that much collagen. 441 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 2: It's really it's sad because you see it all the time. 442 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 3: People are like, well, they must mean well, and you're like, 443 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 3: they really don't. 444 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: They don't mean well, why do you think that? 445 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 3: But that is the kind of line that I hear 446 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 3: from And you know, you heard it during COVID all 447 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 3: the time, and you even hear it now. 448 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 2: But during COVID it was like they're doing their best, 449 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: They're trying their best, and. 450 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 3: Now it's like, well, we didn't know they were using 451 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: information out of the time, which no, none of that's true. 452 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: But I think people are just so complacent. 453 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 3: How do we like wake people up and say you 454 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 3: should be able to take as much collagen as you want. 455 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 4: I don't know. I think that ultimately, like right now, 456 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 4: the other problem is that people are expecting some kind 457 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 4: of savior to come and fix everything. So unfortunately, these 458 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 4: trends are completely unsustainable, and I keep expecting that people 459 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 4: will act accordingly. But unfortunately what you see is a 460 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,959 Speaker 4: lot of people looking forward to the next election and 461 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 4: they think, well, if we elect Donald Trump, if we 462 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 4: elect a republic in Congress, then everything is going to 463 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 4: get back on track. But the way that the government 464 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 4: has set itself up is it's going to continue growing 465 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 4: no matter who is in office, and unfortunately, that means 466 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 4: our problems are going to keep getting worse no matter 467 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 4: who wins. And so elections have kind of become the 468 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 4: bread and circus of the modern era, where people are 469 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 4: distracted enough by the elections to think that this may 470 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 4: be the thing that will help us get back on track. 471 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 4: But unfortunately, the government will be consolidating its power no 472 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 4: matter who wins. So I ultimately I think optimistic. You know, no, 473 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 4: I sound like one of these doesday prepper guys. 474 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: But how are you prepping though? Other than the collagen? 475 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 5: I mean, well, I do think that it's important for 476 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 5: people to have actual money, like cold and silver, and 477 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 5: not have dollars because that's the weak link in this 478 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 5: whole chain, and that's the thing that's the. 479 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 4: Government is dependent on for its power. So it's it's 480 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 4: it's just everybody should consider the possibility that one day 481 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 4: the dollar will be even worse or less worth less 482 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 4: than it is today. So just imagine waking up in 483 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 4: your bank account like all the dollars are worth nothing. 484 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 4: What would you do, like, how would you survive? And 485 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 4: that's I think a useful exercise is to just figure 486 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 4: out how to plan your life so that you're not 487 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 4: so dependent on a system that it's not sustainable. But 488 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 4: as I can see, nobody is really like there are 489 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 4: people that think like this, but unfortunately it's we're still 490 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 4: in the minority, and so the trends are still heading 491 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 4: toward collapse. And so I do think that it's going 492 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 4: to take a collapse before people realize that the whole 493 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 4: system was the house of cards and the only way 494 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 4: to have, you know, a real life of security and 495 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,239 Speaker 4: of personal property and everything is to take care of 496 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 4: yourself and to you know, source food locally and to 497 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 4: have real money, and to take care of security between 498 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 4: you and your friends and you know, your local community, 499 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 4: but not depend on political actors hundreds of thousands of 500 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 4: miles away. 501 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 3: So that's my I feel like I have to make 502 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 3: a joke about you being so pessimistic, but I actually 503 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 3: agree with a lot of the things that you're saying. 504 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 3: Is it's that you know, taking care of yourself, making 505 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 3: sure that you have kind of a path forward if 506 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 3: everything does fall apart. I think all that is you 507 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 3: know the right thing to do, even if nothing falls apart. 508 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 2: You should be able to take care of yourself and 509 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 2: the rest of it. 510 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 3: If everything goes great, you die and you know, the 511 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 3: dollar doesn't collapse, and you lived a long life and 512 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 3: everything was fine, great, you still have ways of managing 513 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 3: your life that doesn't rely on anybody else. 514 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 2: That's not a bad way to be. 515 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, And I think I mean one of the 516 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 4: other social problems that we have is the infantilization of 517 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 4: the culture itself. So kids are put in these protective 518 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 4: bubbles and just told to focus on how they feel 519 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 4: about everything. When if we want the country to thrive 520 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 4: and to grow and to be strong, then the people 521 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 4: have to be strong, and so we have to teach 522 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 4: strength and we have to encourage people to choose strength. 523 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 4: So even from when kids are young, I think we 524 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 4: should be encouraging them to do things that are hard 525 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 4: rather than to protect them from things that are difficult. 526 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 4: Piro beats or no, yeah, ice bats is a good thing. 527 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 4: You know. The Native Americans will put their two year 528 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 4: old kids in the freezing river. I don't know if 529 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 4: they still do this, but you know, back in the day, 530 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 4: they would put a baby in a freezing river just 531 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 4: to get them that cold shock. So one of the 532 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 4: things that does, in fact, is it tones your baguel nerve, 533 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 4: which is like the measures basically the strength of your 534 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 4: nervous systems. So stronger your bagel tone than the more 535 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 4: resistant you are to stress, and so the more hard 536 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 4: things that you could do. So in general, I think 537 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 4: it's a good life lesson to always choose strength. And 538 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 4: as a culture, I think it's important if we're trying 539 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 4: to raise people that are strong rather than weak and feeble, 540 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 4: especially because China and these other countries are not focused 541 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 4: on pctimology, and so they are aspiring for global ambitions, 542 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,479 Speaker 4: you know, and so they're not going to become scared 543 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 4: because the United States talents like so many victims everywhere, 544 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 4: and I know that's to them. It's no they're they're 545 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 4: they're intimidated by strength, and so we've got to stop, 546 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 4: you know, coddling everybody. 547 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 3: Well, Tom, I have loved talking to you. I think 548 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 3: this went a lot better than you expected it to go. 549 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 3: And here with your best tip for my listeners on 550 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 3: how they can improve their lives. 551 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 4: Well, to take ownership, I would say, so take care 552 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 4: of yourself, solve your own problems, don't blame other people. 553 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 4: I mean, there's always there's always going to be challenges, 554 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 4: but if you have a mindset of gratitude and you're 555 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 4: just always thinking about what is positive in every situation, 556 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 4: then it's easier to be happy and to accomplish things. 557 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 4: And anybody can wallow in their own misery, but you're 558 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 4: never going to solve anything. And so once you get 559 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 4: yourself figured out, then it's easier to take care of 560 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 4: your family. And then once you get your family taken 561 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 4: care of it, it's easier to take care of your community. 562 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 4: And if everybody takes ownership of themselves, then suddenly the 563 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 4: world becomes a better place and we don't need politicians 564 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 4: in the front place. 565 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 2: So perfect, Thank you so much. He's Tom Elliott. 566 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 3: Check out Grabian and if you're Madrid, visit Biospa. 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