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Speaker 1: At This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale LOLLI. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt and Mike Tomlin press conference.

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Speaker 3: How about that the season is here?

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Speaker 2: The season is here. The initial Mike Tomlin press conference

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Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty four season. And he announced right

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Speaker 2: out of the gate, know Isaac Samalu this week. Although

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Speaker 2: he did say that they got good news on Saamalu,

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Speaker 2: this does not look like it's a long term injury.

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Speaker 2: He said he's going to be weak to week because

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Speaker 2: of that. However, Spencer Anderson is running with the wants.

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Speaker 2: Huh is next in line to get his first career start.

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Speaker 2: So you're gonna have two guys on that interior offensive

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Speaker 2: line making.

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Speaker 3: The right starts right next to each other. Yeah. I

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Speaker 3: saw the blurb about Ciamalu that they got good news.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's out, but it's week to week. There's

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Speaker 3: a chance for next week. Yeah, that'd be great. I

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Speaker 3: mean I thought it could be up to a month.

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Speaker 3: So this is really promising.

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Speaker 2: I mean when it initially happened, they thought it might

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Speaker 2: be the years. Yeah right, right, The first news was

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Speaker 2: very good. He's I mean, he'd be missed though, I mean,

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Speaker 2: no doubt about it. It's going to be first game

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Speaker 2: of the year, young line anyway you cut it. He's

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Speaker 2: the veteran, he's the most been around the block. Dude,

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Speaker 2: what do you mean James Daniels has more career starts

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Speaker 2: than Isaac Samalo.

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Speaker 3: Oh that doesn't shock me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was looked up today because I

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Speaker 2: wrote the story for Steelers dot Com. Okay, and I

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Speaker 2: initially wrote, you know, he's the most experienced guy, and

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Speaker 2: now I looked him like, oh no, Daniels has more starts.

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Speaker 3: He's the oldest, have been the legal than this, but

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Speaker 3: he has not played the most football. That makes sense.

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Speaker 3: I hadn't thought of that, but that does add up,

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Speaker 3: considering Daniel has been a starter since day one. Andy

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Speaker 3: came in the league super young. Yeah, pretty crazy. He's

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Speaker 3: a rare combination of youth and experience, right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: that doesn't happen very much, but you would once to

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Speaker 3: see them all do there? For sure? On road Jitter's

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Speaker 3: young line. But the fact that it might not be

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Speaker 3: an extended stretch. I'll take it. And folks, Anderson's pretty

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Speaker 3: good if you haven't paid attention, if you're like, oh man,

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Speaker 3: seventh round pick next year is going to he's they

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Speaker 3: were in trouble. He's a lot better than that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Mike Toman today compared him to Kelvin Beacham.

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Speaker 3: That's a good one.

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Speaker 2: He said, you know this this guy, you know, I

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Speaker 2: kind of like to compare him to Calvin Beacham. And

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Speaker 2: he said, look, if if he can have a career

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Speaker 2: like Kelvin.

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Speaker 3: Beach might still be playing, he still is still pay Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and say he's like six fifteen years something like thirteen.

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Speaker 2: As a seventh round draft pick at left tackle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and people might not even remember Beacham. Well enough,

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Speaker 3: wasn't tall enough, you know, wasn't the carbon copy left

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Speaker 3: tackle type. People thought he might be a guard, but

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Speaker 3: that's a probably you know who knows. And he's gotted

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Speaker 3: it out and been a quality player for that long

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Speaker 3: at left tackle and is going to retire with a

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Speaker 3: lot of millions in the back. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty pretty stuff. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and Anderson is

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Speaker 2: more versatile. Yeah, I mean right, he is a left Hackle,

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Speaker 2: but he could do a lot of stuff. So Sam

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Speaker 2: always out with his seventy seven career starts. So they

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Speaker 2: have Daniels with eighty starts, Dan Moore with forty nine.

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Speaker 2: I think that might stand up pretty quick people. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then Broderick Jones with eleven. Yeah, and then two

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Speaker 3: First career start, so we're pretty certain that's gonna be

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Speaker 3: don't know if Futano would be back in the act.

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Speaker 2: Well he's back practicing this week, but there's no way.

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Speaker 2: There's a God's green earth, right, they're gonna They're gonna

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Speaker 3: That would be insane. Yeah, that that's asking a lot.

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Speaker 3: Even if they're super talented and all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: They could all be number one overall picks and I.

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 2: I would expect to see that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you still need to win today with

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Speaker 3: so that adds up. I also saw Roman Wilson's back

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Speaker 3: But that's even good news on sam Olo. I mean,

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Speaker 3: all the recent news is good news, whether they're active

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Speaker 3: being thrown their their hat in the ring. Who knows

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Speaker 3: how much they play. But that's better than I thought.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wouldn't expect a lot from Roman Wilson

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Speaker 3: It's similar to.

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Speaker 2: If they if they even I think, if they were healthy,

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Speaker 2: if Salem Malo is healthy and everything was good, I

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Speaker 2: don't know that they Bringtanu back and say, okay, you're

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Speaker 2: you're the immediate starter at right tackle. It played in

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Speaker 3: Isn't played in three weeks? And just when he was

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Speaker 3: like earning the job is when he got hurt. It's

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Speaker 3: I'm so really high on him. I mean I think

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Speaker 3: the season he could be the starting right tackle. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: but to beat the Falcons, it doesn't make a lot

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Speaker 2: It really doesn't. And maybe now you hold off on

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Speaker 2: that until you get sa Amalu back, and that's when

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Speaker 2: you make maybe which of some.

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Speaker 3: Sort men and hope this is our five, you know,

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Speaker 2: But by that time, Fraser has a couple of starts

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Speaker 3: Know, that might make sense, especially if Samal is in

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Speaker 3: the mix next week or the week after, Like, okay,

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Speaker 3: we're going with this five from here on out. These

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Speaker 3: You know, I like it. We were talking off the air,

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Speaker 3: this Falcons front. They've tried a little to try to

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Speaker 3: improve it, but this was the big knock on them

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Speaker 3: when they drafted Pennix too, Like you could haved your

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Speaker 3: the front choice of defensive players, probably an edge rusher,

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Speaker 3: and that's what you sort of sacrifice and Panix might

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Speaker 3: be great. Blah bla blah. That's not even what I'm

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Speaker 2: And this wasn't a great draft for that.

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Speaker 3: No, it wasn't. The first defensive player didn't go till

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Speaker 3: sixteen or seventeen or whatever that was. But I mean

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Speaker 3: that was the need for them. I mean, their offense

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Speaker 3: is pretty stacked on paper. The defense, especially the front seven,

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Speaker 3: it's you're counting on some dudes that haven't done a lot.

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Speaker 2: Are they going to look silly because layout too late

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Speaker 2: to was the was the first defensive player taken. If

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Speaker 2: he wins Defensive Player of the Year, Rookie the Year,

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Speaker 2: Rookie Defensive Rookie of the Year, And that was my vote.

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Speaker 2: I mean I like him. I mean he's the favorite

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, or even Dallas Turner.

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Speaker 2: Right, you know, I get it if you know Penis

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Speaker 2: is your quarterback sure three years from now, and that

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Speaker 2: it's hard to win now.

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Speaker 3: No, it doesn't help me win now because they're very

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Speaker 3: much in win now mode.

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I mean look at the guys they've I mean, look

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Speaker 3: at what.

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Speaker 2: They trade, Look what they acquired. Just this month. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and old expensive dudes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and starting with Kirk Cousins. I mean, that's why

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Speaker 3: it never really added up to me. But no matter

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Speaker 3: what I mean, if Pennix turns into a good player

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Speaker 3: and a solid pro, it's worth it. I mean, quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: the most important thing. We know that, but I mean

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Speaker 3: in terms of the other moves, every other move they

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Speaker 3: made this offseason was win. Now, we're in a pretty

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Speaker 3: bad division. New coach, new quarterback, new coordinator. You know,

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Speaker 3: let's go. And I get it. But they're older and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, making note here if you look at their roster,

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Speaker 2: what I say, seven first round picks on offense on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, on the roster. Okay, the seven.

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Speaker 2: Of their first round picks one on defense.

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Speaker 3: And it's only Terrell was on defense, who's a really

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Speaker 3: good corner. They just extended him as well. He's not

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Speaker 3: rounders to play here and there. But they're not dominant players.

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Speaker 3: I mean they've thrown some Day two picks that they're

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Speaker 3: edge rushing problem. Grady Jared, who's one of been their

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Speaker 3: Simmons and Judon are really exciting, but they come with

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Speaker 3: red flags. Yeah, I mean huge red flags. I mean

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Speaker 3: Judon's well not only to give something up for him

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Speaker 3: and pay him, but they haven't paid him yet. I

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Speaker 3: don't think he's expensive, and he's coming off a major.

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Speaker 2: Injury and he's thirty two, just like Cousins yea, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean expensive coming off old, coming off in major injury.

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Speaker 3: And Simmons maybe he's a superstar, but he sat on

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Speaker 3: the Opmorica for a long time, long time. I mean,

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Speaker 3: if the league thought he was a superstar.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think they gave him great money. I think

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Speaker 2: it's like eight yeah, yeah, that seems to be so

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure what the league thinks of him. Did

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Speaker 3: he just choose to sit out because I mean, hey,

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Speaker 3: I was interested.

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Speaker 2: It was one year seven point five okay, yeah, which

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Speaker 2: sucks for a safety, but it's not massive money. It's

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Speaker 2: not making money and it's a one year deal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nothing like they're paying baits yeah and that.

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Speaker 3: But that looks like a good tandem and Terrell is

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Speaker 3: a really good corner. But the front seven to me

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Speaker 3: back going back to the Steelers O line, it's probably

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Speaker 3: a disadvantage even with three new you know, three rookie starter,

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Speaker 3: all the all the changes in the front for the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and I just wonder too. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you mentioned, you know, this being a road game. I

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Speaker 2: understand that the Falcons sold out all their season tickets

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Speaker 2: this year, which is rare for them, but I still

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Speaker 2: expect a large Steeler contingency that doesn't that game.

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Speaker 3: I didn't tell you who bought them, No, who bought

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Speaker 3: them and then sold them. The people listening for my

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Speaker 3: entire season ticket selling these. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they played a lot of I mean all those

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale LOLLI. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt Steelers put out their first official

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Speaker 2: depth chart Oh yes, yes, of the twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: So in the preseason, Troy Fatanaho is listed as the

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Speaker 2: Now he's a backup at right tackle.

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Speaker 3: Give you a year two or yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So Dylan Cook listed as the backup at left

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Speaker 2: I assume in that situation, Roderick Jones would go to

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Speaker 3: Week, right, right, So you hope Paton who's right to

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Speaker 3: role for that reason it himself. I don't even know

437
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Speaker 3: if we could expect, you know, six ozer line stuff.

438
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Speaker 2: If he is right now, Ryan McCollum listed is the

439
00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:24,840
Speaker 2: backup center?

440
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:25,840
Speaker 3: Okay?

441
00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,160
Speaker 2: I wonder if if McCormick has told me last week

442
00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,000
Speaker 2: we talked about it, they started giving him some snaps

443
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,280
Speaker 2: at center and practice. I wonder if he would be

444
00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,399
Speaker 2: the backup center on game day.

445
00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,320
Speaker 3: Sea Mall who's healthy? I would think would be Anderson.

446
00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:45,800
Speaker 3: See I think it would be a tough one.

447
00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:46,919
Speaker 2: I think it would be McCormick.

448
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,160
Speaker 3: I think he's gotten more center snaps in the last

449
00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,000
Speaker 3: two weeks than Anderson.

450
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,359
Speaker 2: Has, and saw Anderson play center at all.

451
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,600
Speaker 3: That's what my next question to you, because when he

452
00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 3: came in the league, he was sort of center for

453
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,119
Speaker 3: first yeah, and did all sorts of things last camp.

454
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,359
Speaker 3: I don't remember any center this year, nor do I know,

455
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,440
Speaker 3: But which makes all sense in the world. If Herbig's

456
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 3: the one in your second round pick is.

457
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 2: You want to get all those guys all the snaps

458
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:11,880
Speaker 2: you could.

459
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, because how much did we talk about McCormick pre

460
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,920
Speaker 3: draft that he's center capable and could be a project there. Yeah,

461
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,880
Speaker 3: just doesn't think what ever need it? You know, considering

462
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:21,199
Speaker 3: well he.

463
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,879
Speaker 2: Even played some center against the Lions, yes, in that

464
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:24,879
Speaker 2: last preseason game.

465
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Speaker 3: But but I bet he would be the two now

466
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 3: I think through, you know, and in that instance that

467
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 3: was especially this week, I.

468
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:37,639
Speaker 2: Would think he got Fatanu McCormick, and well, maybe you

469
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Speaker 2: have all three of those guys I was about active. Yeah,

470
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,200
Speaker 2: you're thirty five, Yeah, and probably McCallum. So maybe McCollum

471
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,919
Speaker 2: is is your backup center in this in this instance

472
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Speaker 2: because you don't have to make any other changes.

473
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,640
Speaker 3: In right, right, I mean you're gonna you're gonna dress eight. Yeah,

474
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 3: and that's all you got.

475
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 2: Really it is.

476
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 3: We got to think through all we want, but there's

477
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 3: only eight capable bodies and they're all gonna dress so problem.

478
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 2: To be active for this.

479
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 3: If he can't go, then roll with seven and say, hey,

480
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 3: darnld Washington about the practice squad. I guess yeah, and

481
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,640
Speaker 3: address them O line injuries on Sunday would be bad. Yeah,

482
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,120
Speaker 3: this is the bottom line. We've already suffered. They're already

483
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 3: dealt with a few, and you somewhere all that's shuffling.

484
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 2: Right, that's yeah, that's a big thing that Cohorns don't want.

485
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 2: They don't want to have to make one. They don't

486
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,439
Speaker 2: have to make three changes for.

487
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 3: One, right and the damn more injury. Say what you

488
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 3: want about him, he's a valuable piece right now.

489
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely, he's a key.

490
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Speaker 3: You know, even if Daniels were to go down, I'm

491
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Speaker 3: sure you just put McCormick there. Yeah, you know.

492
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, in fact, he's listed is Daniel's backup?

493
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,479
Speaker 3: Okay, so that makes sense. Uh.

494
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 2: At tight end it's Pat Friarmouth, Darnel Washington, Connor Hayward,

495
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 2: Michael Prue. Do you read anything into that? No, Yeah,

496
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 2: I mean I think all four will be active.

497
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Speaker 3: That was a questions that have for you know, Hayward

498
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 3: will be yeah, because of special teams. The top two

499
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 3: of course will. So many fantasy people got a little

500
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 3: crazy about Friar Moose usage in the preseason, don't Yeah.

501
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, they weren't showing anything, no.

502
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 3: And I think they're saving him to some degree. Too,

503
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 3: because they know he's going to catch a lot of

504
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 3: passes and it's important and don't want to get hurt.

505
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 3: Nobody had fretted when Pickens will only be out there

506
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 3: with eight snaps. Yeah, and all of a sudden they're

507
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 3: all worried about Friar Mooth. I never quite understood that.

508
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 3: Preu It's the one I don't know about, though, I

509
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 3: and blocks and he does things. Yeah, I think he'll

510
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 3: probably be on the return kickoff return team.

511
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he and Hayward will both be out there, yeah,

512
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 2: as the up guys.

513
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 3: I don't know what else Prewit does though special teams wives,

514
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,239
Speaker 3: but I would think he's out there.

515
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 2: I would think he's probably out there in field goal,

516
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 2: extra point those things, those things. Yeah. Yeah, but he's

517
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 2: a good blocker.

518
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 3: But I would think there's a good I mean, is

519
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 3: Roman Wilson active?

520
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

521
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 3: I wouldn't think so either.

522
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think that's where you steal a spot.

523
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 2: That's where you have four active receivers. Wilson really hasn't

524
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 2: done anything until how do.

525
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 3: You trust him to run the right route? And all right?

526
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 2: You know you'd have to light up practice this week,

527
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 2: I'd feel better. You're probably going to see Cordero Patterson

528
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 2: be the emergency fifth receiver.

529
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 3: Makes sense, Yeah, that makes all the sense in the world.

530
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 3: I mean, they're never going to have four receivers on

531
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 3: the field period ever never. I mean, and they could

532
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 3: go a whole game without putting three out there if

533
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 3: injury set in. Yeah, the fifth guy. I'm just thinking,

534
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 3: what if Austin gets.

535
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 2: Hurt, you put I mean, Scotty Miller would be your best.

536
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 3: Miller would be the backup there. I was saying about, like, yeah,

537
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 3: those specialty roles. Okay, Yeah, that adds up for this game. Yea.

538
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 3: You know again this for this game, it's all.

539
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 2: By getting through this game. Yeah, and then see where

540
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 2: you're at with Sayamalo. Defensively, the Marvin le Al leap

541
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: forg Isaiah Loudermilk, he's now listed as the backup to

542
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:50,479
Speaker 2: Cam Hayward.

543
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 3: I think that's legit. I think he's a noticeably better

544
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 3: football player. Yeah, no matter what you want to call him,

545
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 3: I think he's the better.

546
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 2: Player montrevious Adams that the backup to uh keon O Benten.

547
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 2: No surprise there, Dean Lowry leap frogging Isaiah louder Milk

548
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 2: as well.

549
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 3: Louder Milk's the one I was a little shocked made

550
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 3: the team and might not be long for this world

551
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 3: if they need a tackle or a receiver or something

552
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 3: like that. I don't know that he's active on game day.

553
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: I think he's more valuable than Logan Lee though to

554
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: win today. Yes, yeah, I agree with that. I don't

555
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 2: know if he the ones active on game day.

556
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know what's weird that they don't. Yeah,

557
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 3: I mean Leal does two things, but they definitely have

558
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 3: one of those two active, if not too.

559
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 2: I can't imagine League gets a hat. No, there's no

560
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: way League, No, he don't get at Yeah. No, I

561
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: would think we'd also see a lot in your curbak

562
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 2: in this game, yes, no question.

563
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, say what you want about Watt and Heismith.

564
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 3: They're awesome, but they've played no snaps.

565
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 2: They played no he sees we might even see some

566
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 2: Leal at outside linebacker as well.

567
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 3: I think so too. I mean again, if this was

568
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 3: the Falcons audio network, I'd be like, well, how many

569
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: snaps are you gonna get out of Watt? In Heigsmith

570
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 3: they didn't play, Yeah, right, they're not gonna be full

571
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 3: time guys.

572
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 2: Peyton Wilson listed as the top backup at inside linebacker

573
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: behind Patrick Queen Tyler, Matakevitch, behind Land and Roberts. That flipped,

574
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: Mark Robinson listed his third team.

575
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 3: That being said, if Roberts were to get hurt, I

576
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 3: don't think Matta Kayevitch would fill in that role.

577
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so either.

578
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 3: I think it'd be Wilson.

579
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 2: I think it'd be Wilson, Matty cavidg so probably active

580
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 2: on game day, oh yes, and probably not. I don't

581
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: think he can keep five inside.

582
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 3: It's hard to do. Yeah, he'd have to be. And

583
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 3: I don't think he's great on teams. Again, I don't

584
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 3: study special team's tape, but he's on the team because

585
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 3: he's a team's contributor. Played a lot of teams snaps

586
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: last year. Like, is he more valuable than He's not?

587
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: More mount valuable than Matdakaevitch.

588
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 3: Or Killer Brew or how about like Elliott or you know,

589
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 3: like the fifth safety. Yeah, that maybe that's what it

590
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 3: comes down to for actively, maybe because he's been around.

591
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 2: No real surprise is there in the secondary other than

592
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 2: you know, Beingie Bishop still listed as the top nickelback,

593
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 2: in fact, the only nickelback on the roster. Although Tomplin

594
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: said he was asked about Beingie Bishop today, does this

595
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: show that he's done something? He's like, No, he's got

596
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 2: to prove it. We can bring guys up off the

597
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 2: practice squad on game day and they are just as

598
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: I can replace them. Right, I was wondering about that.

599
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 2: You think you could bring up a nickel or a

600
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 2: full back on game day? I don't know, but for

601
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: this game, but maybe one of these early games. Well,

602
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 2: what I think they haven't signed a veteran guy at

603
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: the nickelback position. I think because you're they're waiting for

604
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 2: Week one to be done. Because once Week one is over,

605
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 2: you can go sign a veteran guy if he's if

606
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 2: he's on your roster to open the season, and he's

607
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: a veteran, I think his for four years in the league.

608
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 2: His contract counts the entire season against your salary cap.

609
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll see a lot of getting Cam Sutton back. Yes,

610
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 3: Can we get through this week with Bishop and a

611
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 3: lot of big nickel? Yeah, is what I think. I

612
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 3: think we're to see a lot more big nickel we

613
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 3: saw in preseason anyway.

614
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 2: And I think this is a team that you can

615
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: do that against. Just take a look at the at

616
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 2: the Falcons roster. Here it's Drake London, Darnell Mooney, Rayvery

617
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: McCloud and wide receiver. How much are they gonna play

618
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 2: Rayvery McCloud there is their third receiver. Can imagine a lot.

619
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 3: If it's a heavy Ram influence, they're gonna live in eleven. Yeah. So,

620
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 3: but but that's fine if you're putting lesser players out there, right,

621
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I mean they wanted that

622
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 3: to be ron Dell Moore, right, he's out in the heart.

623
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 2: Other than that, it's you know, Caderyl Hodge and Casey Washington,

624
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 2: who are the backup.

625
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 3: Tight ends to Pitts, and Pitts can do receiver stuff of.

626
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: Course, Charlie Warner and Ross Dewilli.

627
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Depth on this team in general is not not good. No,

628
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 3: No quarterback, running back's good. Some of these other positions are.

629
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 2: This is definitely a team that you can get by

630
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: with a up in the air Nickel, I think so too.

631
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 3: I think so too, because Mooney will be an outside

632
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 3: down the field, dude, Yeah, I would assume they'll move

633
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 3: London around like a Cooper Cup.

634
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: You know.

635
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to assume that goes with him absolutely,

636
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 3: and that's gonna be one of the best matches day.

637
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 3: To me, Pitts, I assume they'll do different things with

638
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: But if you gave Sean McVay Pitts, I don't know

639
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 3: what do you do with them? You know, they're they're

640
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 3: they're there, They've always had. The Higbees don't invest a

641
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 3: lot in true tight ends. Or would they make Pitts

642
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 3: a big receiver. I don't know if they look at

643
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 3: him just as a receiver.

644
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 2: What they They don't have a fallback on their roster either,

645
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: so I wouldn't think you're not going to see I

646
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,479
Speaker 2: wouldn't think you'd see be John Robinson and Tyler Algier

647
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 2: in the same backfield.

648
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: I wouldn't think. But I didn't know this until today.

649
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 3: Bijeon had more targets than any running back in the league.

650
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 3: Now it's a whole new staff. I mean, he's highly,

651
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 3: highly capable of being your extra receiver. And now Gieer

652
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Speaker 3: is a good back. I mean sometimes I like to

653
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Speaker 3: just put in this perspective, who are my best five

654
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: skill guys? Well, it's Mooney, London, pits, Algier and Robinson, right,

655
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: but you have to do weird things to run pony,

656
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I don't know if it's

657
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Speaker 3: that's I don't remember McVeigh ever doing that, leaned on

658
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: Kien Williams like crazy, leaned on Gurley like crazy. You

659
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: know that's not really his style.

660
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't know. They don't have another guy though,

661
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: either at tight under wide receiver that screams you got

662
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Speaker 2: to get this guy on the field.

663
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Speaker 3: That's they're short, that's six, dude. I mean it's it's

664
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Speaker 3: Ray Ray or it's Dwelly. I mean fine, I mean

665
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Speaker 3: Dwelly better be a really good blocker.

666
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Speaker 2: I mean honestly, when you look at it, their receiver group,

667
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: the Steelers might be better than that.

668
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 3: If London and Pickens is a wash, I prefer London

669
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Speaker 3: at this stage of his career. It's pretty darn closed. Yeah,

670
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Speaker 3: Mooney's coming off pretty rough year.

671
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Speaker 2: Mooney's good. Yeah, he would play on this team, but

672
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: he's not head and shoulders above anybody else that the

673
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Speaker 2: Steelers have.

674
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Speaker 3: Like and I'll take three through five in Pittsburgh without question.

675
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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if ra Ray makes it

676
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Speaker 3: team no again, in.

677
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Speaker 2: Casey Washington and caderrel Hodge certainly don't no, right, right, right,

678
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Speaker 2: So I agree.

679
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Speaker 3: I mean it's but one team doesn't want to play

680
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 3: three receiver sids. Someone does, yeah, and neither one has three.

681
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Speaker 2: The other team, I mean, they're they're tight ends are

682
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 2: other than Pits are junk.

683
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Speaker 3: So I wonder if Dwelly is just like a inline,

684
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Speaker 3: boring neck rolled guy and Pits is my move at all?

685
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Speaker 3: Maybe make Pitts in London almost interchangeable. They're might cupping

686
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Speaker 3: the Kua. Now I'm just trying to look at through

687
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Speaker 3: a RAMS perspective. You know, what would mc veigh do

688
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 3: with these guys?

689
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's kind of what the Steelers are doing right

690
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: now with Washington trying to figure it out. Okay, what's

691
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 2: how's this going to work here? What are what are

692
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Speaker 2: they going to do? Because we didn't get to see

693
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 2: it the entire preseason, right, I kind of guess them,

694
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: what what the what the falcon do?

695
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Speaker 3: No, it's but words of your mouth. So I think

696
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 3: what you're saying is Washington's going to line up as

697
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 3: the inline big dude. A lot of snaps and farm's

698
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 3: going to move around a lot, and then you have

699
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 3: two receivers. Friarmuth and Pitts are different, but that doesn't

700
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Speaker 3: mean you can't put them in similar situation, right, you know.

701
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Speaker 2: Defensively, I look at team and.

702
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: Good thing they signed a couple. I think I said

703
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: this last week. We had Aaron Shots on broadcasts on Friday.

704
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 3: He projected the Falcons to have the thirty second best

705
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Speaker 3: defense in the league.

706
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Speaker 2: I can see that looking at this group.

707
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 3: That was when the book came out. Yeah, pre Simmons

708
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 3: and Juda on and I asked about it. He's like, yeah,

709
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 3: we've bumped since then, We've added, We've gone up to

710
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Speaker 3: like twenty six.

711
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: I was gonna say twenty five twenty six times.

712
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 3: It was right in that neighborhood.

713
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Speaker 2: You know.

714
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Speaker 3: It's not leaps and bounds. But they were much needed pieces.

715
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Speaker 3: But it was a bad group.

716
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Speaker 2: I mean they're playing a three to four base, which

717
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: you would assume you get a lot of that if

718
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: you're gonna run twelve and thirteen person or I don't know.

719
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Speaker 3: So new thing I dug up to is I think

720
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 3: we've talked about this is the league is changing how

721
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: they play against twelve, four or five years ago, you

722
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: would get nickel like twenty five percent of the time.

723
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 3: Now it's up to two thirds. But if you play

724
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 3: nickel against the Steelers version with Washington, good luck with that.

725
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 3: Just hand it off. Yeah, you know what I mean,

726
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 3: if you're gonna if they're gonna get two thirds of

727
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 3: the snaps of nickel against Washington, Friar Muth, Pickens Jefferson

728
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: in the back, I think the Steelers would take that

729
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 3: all day long.

730
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Speaker 2: They just run the bar.

731
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Speaker 3: They're gonna run it over and over and over, and

732
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 3: you might stop us here and there, but by the

733
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Speaker 3: fourth quarter you got defensive backs tackling nausey. Still, I'll

734
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Speaker 3: take my chances. Yeah, So I'm real curious how that's

735
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 3: a league wide thing. So do they look at the

736
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 3: Steelers twelve as I gotta play bass against that? I

737
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 3: would lean that way if I was any you know,

738
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Speaker 3: defense acts.

739
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's Zach Harrison, David Anyamata, and Grady Jarrett front.

740
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: That's the defensive line.

741
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Speaker 3: I want to get out of Jared at this point. Yeah,

742
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 3: But I mean he's a quality player. You can make plays.

743
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 2: The linebackers are Lorenzo Carter, Caden Ellis, Troy Anderson, who

744
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 2: I liked in the draft of this is an interesting

745
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 2: player too, and Matthew Judon.

746
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Speaker 3: So a lot of former Saints. They brought over, big,

747
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 3: physical front seven guys. You know, is what they're trying

748
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 3: to do on defense. It's is not a lot of talent,

749
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,239
Speaker 3: and there are a lot of okay dudes. Ellis can

750
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 3: do a lot of things for you. Anderson's a super athlete.

751
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 3: I think only played like four hundred snaps last year

752
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 3: and then got hurt. And then the edge guys are

753
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 3: They're just looking Jarrett like I would love it if

754
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 3: i'm them. I'm getting Jarrett on Anderson and I'm frasier.

755
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna use my old man tricks. You know,

756
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: I've did a lot of success in this league. The

757
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 3: rest of their d linemen are.

758
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: Okay, but his Grady Jarrett's game was always built on

759
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: a quick first step, and I don't know that he

760
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: has it.

761
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 3: Anything that I don't know. I bet it's not the same.

762
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: I'll bet everything I own is not the same. I mean,

763
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 3: he was a real exploit and those kind of like, yeah,

764
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Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know. They're front seven's a

765
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: bit of a mystery.

766
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Speaker 2: Now the secondary there, he's got some dudes. They got

767
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: some dudes there.

768
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 3: You know.

769
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: Ajate Trrell, who we talked about earlier, is a good

770
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: number one cornerback.

771
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Speaker 3: I wonder if he'll travel. I don't know what their

772
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 3: strategy is on that too.

773
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: I don't know for I don't know whether he Morris's

774
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 2: background isn't that the Rams have not had corners to

775
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 2: do it right.

776
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 3: And even when Ramsey was there, he it was a

777
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 3: week the week thing, but he was more the star

778
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 3: than Nickel, the pseudo linebacker overhang guy. He didn't like

779
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 3: reave us it up.

780
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just thinking even back to Morris's days when

781
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: he was Tampa Bay's head coach, I bet not probably

782
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 2: you don't think he had a dude there.

783
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they have a clear one corner.

784
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike, Mike Hughes is the second corner.

785
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: He's okay, he's all right, But I would I mean,

786
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 3: the reason I brought it up is the Steelers have

787
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 3: a clear one not almost to the same degree as

788
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 3: when Atlanta has a ball. Both teams have a clear

789
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 3: one corner and a clear one receiver, you know, so

790
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 3: it would make sense to try to get that matchup

791
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 3: as much as possible, and.

792
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: Then you look to Justin Simmons and Jesse Bates as

793
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: the safety tandem. D Alford is the is the nickel corner.

794
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know much about it. I don't either.

795
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what his story is, but the safeties

796
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 3: are dangerous. Baits is coming off a ball away. Yeah,

797
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: that's a guy they're really familiar with. He's a Bengal forever,

798
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: but he's a big money safety and he's one of

799
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 3: the top five players in the league at that position.

800
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 2: Simmons is really good too, so it'll be interesting. But

801
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: if you're running the ball down their throat, that's the strategy.

802
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially if you can. If they're gonna come out

803
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 3: nickel against twelve, I'm gonna hand it off three times

804
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 3: in a row.

805
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 2: The other thing, if I'm the Steelers, I if I'm

806
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 2: looking at this as the Steelers coaching staff, I want

807
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: to shorten the game on Kirk Cousins. Yeah, because he

808
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: hasn't played football in almost a year with question and

809
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: he didn't play in the preseason. If it's gonna take

810
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: him twenty passes to shake the rust off, I don't

811
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: want him shaking the rust off until the third quarters.

812
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I hear you saying yeah, and he taking

813
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 3: into his numbers. He really played well pre injury, and

814
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 3: he was like leading the league and completions and touchdowns

815
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 3: and pleasure percentage. But that was week eight, right, that's

816
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 3: a long time I'm ago, long time ago, and he's

817
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: an old dude coming up a big injury.

818
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on

820
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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be back

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Speaker 2: with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt friend of the show. Cynthia

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Speaker 2: Freeland on NFL dot Com.

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Speaker 3: Every combine she stopped by.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely she has put out her win projections through her

830
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: model of oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Peter model does.

831
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Speaker 3: This isn't her opinion.

832
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 2: She does like ten thousand simulations exactly and this is

833
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 2: the average wind total and they come out.

834
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Speaker 3: Tweak them throughout the years. This is like the final one,

835
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 3: you know, kind of like the thing we talked about

836
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 3: with the falcons. You add Simmons, you add Jude On.

837
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 3: Things have the change or a guy gets hurt or

838
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 3: you know.

839
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Speaker 2: So let's take a look here at the AFC and

840
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 2: see how things stack up here. So she did a ceiling,

841
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: a floor, and then put in the over under on

842
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: FanDuel for which is what the over under is. And

843
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: then she also then has her win projection.

844
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: Side note, if you run eight million projections, you know,

845
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 3: I know she does a ton like ten thousand. There's

846
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 3: probably one where the Patriots are seventeen and oh, like,

847
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 3: I don't think so. And I'm wondering would that be

848
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 3: your floor or would that be your ceiling. There's gotta

849
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 3: be some you gotta throw out, Yeah, you know, there's

850
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 3: gotta be crazy ones.

851
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 2: So the Patriots ceiling is six wins, the floor three

852
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: point three, the fandel over under is four point five,

853
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: and she has them coming in at four point seven wins.

854
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 3: Okay, So people, I thought, think there's a difference between

855
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 3: four point five and four point seven, but in these

856
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: they are it actually matters.

857
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: The Raiders in the AFC have the odds to be

858
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: the second worst team. The ceiling is actually eight point

859
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 2: eight wins.

860
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 3: Though, guess if everything goes well and the defense clicks

861
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: and they have weapons.

862
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, the floor is four point six. That's a pretty

863
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: big run. That's a big gap.

864
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

865
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, the fandel Over under a six and a half.

866
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 2: She has them coming in at five point seven wins.

867
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 3: Okay, none, that sounds crazy to me. And plus their division,

868
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 3: they could win four to eight division possibly.

869
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: Then you have the Titans. Their ceiling is eight point nine.

870
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: The floor is four point nine.

871
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 3: Say that's another team I think should be a high

872
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 3: variance team. Quarterback and new coach.

873
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: The fandel Over under a six and a half. She

874
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: isn't coming in at six point two wins.

875
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 3: Okay, so close, but below Then you have the Broncos.

876
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 3: I don't see a lot of air.

877
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 2: The Broncos ceiling is actually bigger, it's a bigger variant. Really,

878
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 2: ceiling is nine point two wins. I don't see that.

879
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 3: The flora is five. It's not even the rookie quarterback.

880
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 3: It's like, who's good on defense? Yeah, I mean besides certain,

881
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: I mean they don't have much.

882
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: The fandle Over under is five and a half. She

883
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 2: has him at six point four. I might go over

884
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: five and a half, but I'm not going to eight

885
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: or nine in any planet. The Chargers, their ceiling is

886
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 2: nine point five.

887
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 3: I don't see that either.

888
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 2: The floor is six point five. Fandels Over unders eight

889
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: and a half. She has him at eight wins. More realists.

890
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 3: We both love the under. Yeah, I would go under

891
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: on eight.

892
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: They have an easy schedule. They do think they have

893
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: the easiest schedule.

894
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 3: In the league. Me, it's one of them for sure.

895
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 3: Atlanta's is super easy too.

896
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: Then you have the Colts. The ceiling is ten and

897
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 2: a half wins. The floor is six point six. Richardson's

898
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: a high variance player, obviously.

899
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. Right. Uh.

900
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 2: Fandels Over under is eight and a half. She has

901
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: him at eight point one.

902
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, would Colts fans be happy with an

903
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 3: eight and nine year quarterback? Looks good?

904
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 2: He's the answer, go in the right direction? Maybe, I say,

905
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: that's that's a question. The Jaguars are next. The ceiling

906
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 2: is ten point nine wins. The flora is seven point two.

907
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 2: The over under is eight and a half, and she

908
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 2: has him an eight point three wins.

909
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 3: I thought about sneaking them into a wild card. I'm

910
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 3: still a Lawrence believer, but I don't like his line

911
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: and some stuff there. Yeah.

912
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 2: Then you have the Steelers. The ceiling is ten point

913
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: four wins, the flora is five point nine. That's a

914
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: huge that's a huge, huge difference.

915
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 3: I don't know what planet this team wins five point

916
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 3: or six.

917
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't see it. The over unders eight and a half,

918
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: she has him an eight point six wins like dead on, yeah,

919
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: but slightly over, slightly over. Then you have the Browns.

920
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 2: The ceiling is eleven, the flora is six point five.

921
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 3: A lot. That's just screams Watson.

922
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, the over unders eight and a half. She hasn't

923
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: been eight point seven.

924
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 3: Wins, Okay. I mean that nine wins wouldn't shock any

925
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 3: of us. I don't think.

926
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 2: Miami is next. The ceiling is twelve wins, the floora

927
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 2: is eight point seven fandw over unders nine and a half. Okay,

928
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 2: she has a high floor. She hasn't met ten wins.

929
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean that's all crazy to me. That's a

930
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: pretty high number for both their ceiling and floor.

931
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: Though Buffalo ceiling is twelve point three. The flora is

932
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: seven point nine. The over under is ten and a half.

933
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 2: She hasn't met ten point one.

934
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean I'm a sure a world where Josh

935
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: Allen wins eight, but there's a lot of turmoil around.

936
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: I don't if it gets hurt they could wow then yeah, yeah,

937
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: they gotta start mister Biskey.

938
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: Yeah they might if they more than that. If he's

939
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 3: out of the lineup. For Mitch, they're a bottom sixteen.

940
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah as a skill position, DRIs right, yuck.

941
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 3: Like, I think the Chiefs could stand a month without

942
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 3: what mahomes much better than the Bills could without Allen.

943
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Jets actually have the highest ceiling thirteen and

944
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 2: a half. On the Jets, everything have to fall. That's

945
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: counting on like Aaron being twenty nineteen Aaron Rodgers. Of course,

946
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: of course the floor is eight point six. See, I

947
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 2: think the variants should be higher than should be wider

948
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: than that.

949
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 3: I do too.

950
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 2: That's still over five wins. That's a pretty big variance.

951
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: Fando over unders nine and a half. She isn't at

952
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 2: ten point one wins.

953
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 3: Would you take ten wins if you're a Jets fan

954
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 3: right now? Or do you roll the dice and hope

955
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 3: you they come up snake eyes.

956
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 2: And we think the Jets fans should probably take the

957
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 2: ten wins because.

958
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 3: Then you're maybe in the playoffs and you're Mike it

959
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 3: hot and Rogers tear somebody up.

960
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: And you mean, you know, according to this that's the

961
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: best record in the AFC East.

962
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 3: That would be winning the division. Yeah. Yeah, everybody in.

963
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,959
Speaker 2: The world won a division in twenty years.

964
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. And if I phrased it like Jets fans, would

965
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: you take a division win? Of course you would.

966
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 2: The Bengals the ceiling is twelve point six, the floor

967
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:18,479
Speaker 2: is seven point five.

968
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 3: I wonder why there's such variance. I wonder if it's

969
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 3: on the defense maybe, or ago or right higher injury

970
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 3: factor with him.

971
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 2: The over unders ten and a half. She hasn't at

972
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: ten point four.

973
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: Pretty close.

974
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: The Texans. The ceiling is twelve point six, the floor

975
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: is eight point eight. The over unders nine and a half.

976
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 2: She hasn't at ten point four.

977
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 3: I think I would take over nine and a half two.

978
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's a pretty solid team that should

979
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 2: win four or five in their division.

980
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 3: You would think.

981
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 2: Uh. The Ravens are next. The ceiling is twelve point four.

982
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: The floor is eight point three.

983
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 3: I bet that I would not have then have a

984
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 3: low floor like I thought the Steelers floor was way

985
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 3: too low, way too low considering the the organization as

986
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 3: a whole.

987
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, the over unders ten and a half. She has

988
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: them at ten and a half.

989
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 3: Do you think raven Sans would take that? I don't

990
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 3: think they would. They can't get yeah, ye yeah, yeah,

991
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 3: I don't know if they take eleven.

992
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, depends on whether you win the division.

993
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 3: I think eleven would probably win this division. Twelve definitely will.

994
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: That brings us to the Chiefs. The ceiling is thirteen

995
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: point three, the floor is nine point four. The over

996
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: unders eleven and a half. She hasn't been eleven point four. Wow,

997
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 2: I like the over and eleven and a half for them.

998
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: I'm surprised there are ceilings not a little higher, but

999
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: that they're pretty big numbers. So according to that, then

1000
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: the her division winners would be Kansas City, Baltimore, Yeah, Houston,

1001
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: and the Jets and the Jets, with the wild cards

1002
00:44:55,600 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 2: being Cincinnati, Buffalo in Miami, the Steelers, and and Brown's

1003
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: just missing.

1004
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: Just missing. That's not crazy talk, I mean it's hard. Yeah,

1005
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 3: there's a lot of good quarterbacks on that list, and

1006
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 3: a lot of good teams. I don't have a lot

1007
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 3: of problem with that.

1008
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just to me, I mean, the Steelers haven't

1009
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 2: finished in the last place in their division since nineteen

1010
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: eighty eight. Yeah, somebody said, for that, do we really

1011
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: think this is going to be the year that happens?

1012
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 3: And there are three teams are good? I mean my hunches,

1013
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 3: whoever is in the last place is a good football team. Yeah,

1014
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 3: but that's a long time since they've been in the

1015
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 3: last place. They are a real long time said for that, right,

1016
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 3: I was in college at that point, I was in

1017
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 3: high school. Yeah, yeah, that's a long time.

1018
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 2: It's a long time.

1019
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 3: Many listeners weren't on the planet.

1020
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: You know. Again, if I were, if I were a

1021
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: betting man, I would bet that the Steelers finished above

1022
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: the Browns.

1023
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 3: We both picked it. Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked if

1024
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 3: her in second place. That's happened and done.

1025
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: The Browns have finished ahead of the Steelers once since

1026
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine. Wow, that was last year.

1027
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 3: That was last year.

1028
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: We really think it's going to happen two years in

1029
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: a row, right, right?

1030
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 3: Unlikely?

1031
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: Unlikely? Highly unlikely. History tells us no.

1032
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 3: No, And I think the Browns are a good team.

1033
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I just think they have some problems right now.

1034
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, if the Browns, Steelers, Jaguars, and Colts were in

1035
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: the NFC, would all four be into playoffs?

1036
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 3: No, but I'd say two.

1037
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: I might say three, depending on what division they were in,

1038
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 2: Like I think the Packers. Any of those teams might

1039
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 2: win the NFC South.

1040
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 3: I think they all would where I'm where I'm fighting. Yeah,

1041
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: is I don't know what to think about Dallas, No,

1042
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 3: that's true. Yeah, Dallas, Philly. I think Dallas is gonna

1043
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 3: be down, but I don't know if he'll be that down,

1044
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

1045
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just able to run.

1046
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 3: I think Green Bay goes. I think Detroit goes. The

1047
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 3: Diners are in. I think that all those teams are

1048
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 3: on par with the Rams, yeah, and Dallas, and better

1049
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 3: than anyone in the South, better than the Bears. Evan's

1050
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 3: all excited about the Bears. I'll take all those teams

1051
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 3: of the Bears. I don't know. I don't get the

1052
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 3: Bears love too much too fast. Yeah, I might love

1053
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 3: them next year. I love them this year.

1054
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 2: I mean, just history shows us that the number one

1055
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 2: overall pick. I don't care who it is.

1056
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Struggles, Oh yeah, all rookie quarterba Yes. I mean

1057
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 3: I mentioned the conversation with Aaron Shotts and he put

1058
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 3: all those starting rookies and Anthony richardson and said, I

1059
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 3: know I'm going to be wrong on one of these,

1060
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 3: but all my DVOA projections for those guys are bad. Yeah,

1061
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 3: because they're starting rookies that most of them are bad.

1062
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 3: And he's like, I don't know who I'm gonna be

1063
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 3: wrong on, but I'm gonna be wrong on one. He's like,

1064
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: I was wrong on Stroud last year, but across the board,

1065
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 3: I am never going to be kind to those rookie

1066
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 3: ish starters.

1067
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: Like I know Caleb Williams is the leader in the

1068
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 2: club hust to win Offensive Rookie of the Year. I

1069
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 2: think I think Jayden Daniels is gonna win it.

1070
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 3: I actually would put for what it pays. I might

1071
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 3: put on one of the receivers, yeah, Neighbors or Harrison,

1072
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 3: just because I'm pretty sure they're gonna be good.

1073
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 2: But I think if Jayden Daniels plays, let's say he

1074
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 2: plays twelve games.

1075
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 3: This year, it's gonna run for eight hundred yards. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1076
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 3: his team probably won't win much, but I don't think

1077
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 3: the Bears are gonna have a lot more wins than

1078
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 3: the Commanders. No, maybe two or three. Yeah, so I

1079
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 3: hear you, like, just looking at the Vegas odds. If

1080
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 3: you gave me the field, I'm definitely taking the field

1081
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 3: for Caleb william Yeah. I mean it's not even close

1082
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 3: to me. There's too many good candidates. It's a really

1083
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 3: good offensive draft. Yeah, I mean, Knicks could get in it.

1084
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 3: If he plays seventeen games and they win seven of

1085
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 3: him and he doesn't stink.

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Speaker 2: That's something all you need. Don't stink be a starting quarterback.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't stink, you can win the award. Right Anyways,

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Speaker 2: that was Cynthia Freeland's at twenty four AFC win total

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Speaker 2: projections and playoff and all that stuff. We're gonna get

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Speaker 2: to another break. He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt, Now,

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Speaker 2: I'll be back. That's gonna do it for our number one.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with our number two right after this