1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Twine Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast. 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: I feel like every every time we get engrossed in 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 2: a new TV show and then we get to the 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 2: last episode and it stops a piece of soul die 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: for a few days. I was like, Okay, what we're 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: going to watch? I mean, it's sure I refer to 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: I refer to White loas. 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I actually reached out to my so I 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: have a group chat. It's called Badass Babes. It's my 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: agent at William Morris, my two acting managers, and then 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: Catherine's on there and I texted. So after we finished 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: watching the finale of White Lotus, I texted them and 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: I said, I really need Mike White to meet me 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: because I think i'd be I was like, wait, actually, 15 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: I'm just going to read it verbatim, and this is 16 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: going to probably make me sound silly, but whatever. 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 3: Okay, it says, babe. 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: Girls, can Mike White get to know me and hire 19 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: me for White Lotus. I just really need to be 20 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: on that show. Thanks. I sound like a ha because 21 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: every time I watch it, I'm like, I. 22 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: Just don't send a little at the end. 23 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: Well, it's my insecurity. I am being serious. But I'm 24 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: also because I get a little not insecure. Well may 25 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: I guess it's a piece of insecurity because obviously what 26 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: actor doesn't want to be on white lotus is. 27 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: The fear of someone coming back and saying they'll get 28 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 2: in on that. I'll not get not a chance. 29 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: Friend, and my people are so honest with me that 30 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: they would say that, which is why I would say ha. 31 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: But and guess what they did. They all laughed at it. 32 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: That was the funniest piece, So they laughed at it. 33 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: My manager goes, yes, oh my god, dream job. We 34 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: are always keeping our eyes peeled for that. And then Alex, 35 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: my agent, goes, I actually pitched you for this season. 36 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: Mike White has a very particular process for this that 37 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: no one seems to understand besides him and his producing partner. 38 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: And I said, well, I think I just would be great. 39 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: I didn't, Oh I did. I I sent instead of 40 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: saying ha ha, I sent the crying face emojiz. And 41 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: then she my agent goes, Berlin is what I heard 42 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: for the next season, or someone said I heard next 43 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: season is shooting in La anyone else hear that? And 44 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: then my agent said, Berlin is what I heard, and 45 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: then I go, well, I speak German fluent. I actually don't. 46 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: I can. I can hold a conversation with someone semi 47 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: like I can say the same thing. Well, I will 48 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: be I'm already learning, like I'm back on Rosetta Rosetta stone. 49 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 3: Let's just get out. 50 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: White. I am fluent in German fluent. My nanama is yama. 51 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: I have a spons wound. Yeah, I guess what you said? 52 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: And now people can't understand me. Who knew? 53 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 3: So the only Gemini was fisible? 54 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: Is that what I say? Football and soccer? Okay, good job, babu. 55 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: Well is I love you? And then you'd say, oh, 56 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: I love you too? Yeah, you didn't say that. 57 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 3: Bad. 58 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: Everyone always that's one of my things too, sidebar. Everyone 59 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: always makes fun of German accents, and I think it 60 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: can be beautiful. Having said that, Yes, when you sit 61 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: down and you hear a bunch of German like my grandpa, 62 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: my grandpa Martin, I mean, he was born in Germany 63 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: and he took the boat over and he actually met 64 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: this kind of sweet story. He met my grandma when 65 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: they were in school to learn how to speak English, 66 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: and that's how they met. So sweet. Uh. But anyways. 67 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: But he, I mean he he'd be Martin, Why you 68 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: doing that? But I was like the apple of his eye. 69 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: He loved me. He was like my Nayana so sweet. Anyways, 70 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: he loved me the most. Anyways, So I share this 71 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: history with them. Long story short is, I would love 72 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: to be on White Lotus. I'm going to put it 73 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: out there into the universe. It would be so fun. 74 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: I kind of like the Michelle Monaghan part would have 75 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: been great. I loved that. But I also think season 76 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: two would have been I would have loved to have 77 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: been in that too. The I always forget her name, 78 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: but uh with that little coupling would have been fun. 79 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. It's also the locations and what they fil them 80 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: as well. 81 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,799 Speaker 1: Ah, I mean a couple of months and some beautiful 82 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: because a lot of those places are four seasons. 83 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think Mike Waite needs a Scottish guy 84 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: that's not getting the actings feedings and just needs to 85 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: take a chance on them. 86 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: All right, Mike. I mean, I'm favorite location, what season? What? 87 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: Hands down? The first one is by far I think 88 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: the best. 89 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: I would actually watch that. We're just seeing that Detroy 90 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 2: last night. The nights Ago, I would actually watch the 91 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: season again. 92 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was Hilardius, the guy the general 93 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 3: manager of the hotel. 94 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: So funny, amazing, so so funny. And everyone said this 95 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: last season was kind of boring. There was a few 96 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: things that were very controversial, which was hard to digest 97 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: some of those scenes. But I loved it. To me, 98 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: this is one of those shows where I just I 99 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: think it's all very interesting. I think Mike, which is crazy. 100 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know he was even he was on Survivor. 101 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: That's how it was like his first thing. So I 102 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: just I find him very fascinating. His brain and he 103 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: writes directs them all, so putting it out there, let's 104 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: do this. Let's go, Mike. I'm ready. I'm going to 105 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: write a whole synopsis. This is going to be I'm 106 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: putting this so out into the universe that this is 107 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: like when I wrote I wrote ABC because I was 108 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: so dead set on being Jonathan Taylor Thomas's girlfriend in 109 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: Home Improvement that I wrote a full letter to ABC 110 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: on why and this is here my pitt Treddy, What 111 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: age you at this point? I was thirteen. You gotta 112 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: hear me out, though, I so I tracked down ABC 113 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: their address, and I no joke, this is this is 114 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: the best story. I actually never share this. I was 115 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: so in love with JT. T. I mean I had 116 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: the uh the teampper that was one of the sons. 117 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: He was the older son, old Yeah, he was similar. 118 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:27,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of remember. 119 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: That was Zachary. That was Zachary tie Brian. Then there 120 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: was the younger one, and then there was JTT John 121 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: Thomas the top one, right, so the older one. So 122 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: I was obsessed, had all a team Bopper, big bopper 123 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: whatever all over my walls. I tracked down the ABC. 124 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: I mean there was a it was like a book. 125 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: That's how I got the address. So I I write 126 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: an email and this was my pitch to them, my pitch. 127 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no, I mean I wrote a letter. I 128 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: wrote a letter, sorry, wrote a letter, A handwritten letter. 129 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: So I pitched that I should be the niece of 130 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: the neighbor of Tim Allen, so you know how the 131 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: guy that's always over sense I should be his niece, 132 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: and JTT falls in love with me because I'm the 133 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: niece of the neighbor. Brilliant idea, so good. You know 134 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: what I got back from ABC? 135 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: Nothing? 136 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: No, not nothing, I got a signed poster of JTT. Thanks, 137 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: I hope you love the Lion King. I guess it 138 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: was like about Simba. Yeah, that's my story about JTT 139 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: and really pitching that. So I think I should write 140 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: I need to write a letter to Mike White and 141 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: tell him my idea of what I should be for 142 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: that season, because I think one day it's gonna work. 143 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: I think we have enough, Uh, we have enough drive 144 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: to go. This is what I should and I think 145 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: I would love to get if I was in that position, 146 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: I'd love to say, you know what it on that 147 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: person for trying so hard to be in something. 148 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: Let's meet them face to face. 149 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, at least gave me an opportunity to audition. Yeah, anyways, 150 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: what a story. Oh oh well, Hannah just had to 151 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: just pipe in on this one. She goes, these are 152 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: there are some very sexual scenes in that show though. 153 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, there are, especially the incest ones. 154 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was rough to action. 155 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 3: I'm glad that we'll make White that not believe I've 156 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 3: old to them. I'll show them. 157 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's rough. That's a that was that was that 158 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: was tough to watch that, But listen, I think those 159 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: are one of the those are one of the roles 160 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: where that moves needles, and that's when we have the 161 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: conversation that this is a huge opportunity and if I 162 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 1: have to get naked, I'll get naked for this one. 163 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: Great naked, But like totally I don't think they've gone 164 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: oh they showed, have they gone totally naked in white lotus? 165 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: I can't confess. I mean, honestly, they're showing people's dicks 166 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: left and right in the shows and I'm like, I'm like, 167 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: for what reason why? 168 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no reason. 169 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, they just used to just show. Just got in 170 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: the chat say they show a lot of dong. I 171 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: just don't see the point of it. Like it was 172 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: I will say this, the part that was funny showing 173 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: the penis was when Steve's on. Steve Zon's character was 174 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: like super was it Steve's on where they showed that 175 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: was hilarious? That was see that Like when it's a 176 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: comedic beat, I think that's funny to just show a penis, 177 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: iem like for what reason? But if there is something 178 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: like that, I think, don't you think that's a show 179 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: worth a conversation? Like if there is a sex scene 180 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,119 Speaker 1: and that that's worth because I think it's always a conversation. 181 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 3: I'm happy to open a conversation on most things. Yeah quickly, A. 182 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you would shut this down. I 183 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: think I think this would be one of the roles 184 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: that you you're not gonna like, but you are, would 185 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: be so excited for me. 186 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 3: I don't know how hard you work. 187 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: All right, So, dear Mike White, I don't know what 188 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:22,239 Speaker 1: the part is yet. 189 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 3: But you need a Scottish guy. 190 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: But I'll see you on next season in Where are 191 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: We Dreaming? Yeah, I don't feel I'm not feeling Berlin. 192 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: I feel like it's somewhere else, Scotland. Heyo, there we go, there, 193 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 1: it is there, it is. 194 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 3: You can't You can't go from Hawaii to who why 195 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: not to Tuscany? 196 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: Oh some me the school, sure can. People are gonna 197 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: get real depressed there with all that rain. I have 198 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: a question for you, babe, just speaking of talking through things, 199 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: because obviously we we talk through a lot of stuff, 200 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: and we've recently talked to we've recently Hannah No, I 201 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: think because I think it's a good conversation about it. 202 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: We've we like we we we we also talked to 203 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: someone else. We we. 204 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 3: Go to therapy, yeah, not as a reactive thing, as a. 205 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: So I'm curious because it's something where I think we 206 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: do a really good like we're we're when we're solid, 207 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: it's like we're just like such a team. And sometimes 208 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: there's things where when we get heated is where we 209 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: might like it's to help us not get to a 210 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: place of of heated, right, And so it's like, all right, 211 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: what's going on with you in this moment? What's going 212 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: on with me in this moment? Because sometimes I feel 213 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: like it's so easy to look at the other person 214 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: and even our therapist is like why why do we 215 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: start with them thinking automatically like they're like not something positive? First, 216 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: like oh, I can't believe they're doing this, Like don't 217 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: they know they should be doing this? 218 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: And it's like, oh, why can you not just think 219 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 2: of the best of that person at that thing? Yeah, 220 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: And I think that is a good it's a good point. Thanks, 221 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 2: We'll finally get to the point well. 222 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: Because I think people think about there like oh, they 223 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: must have problems. It's like no, we I've you know, 224 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: we go what like maybe once a month about Yeah. 225 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 2: I think it's also there's different reasons people go to therapy, right, 226 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: and people individually have their own issues and problems to 227 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: deal with. I think we made the decision to go 228 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: through therapy because it allowed us to allowed me to 229 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 2: delve deeper into you and you have to delve deeper 230 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 2: into me and found common ground in certain situations because 231 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: it points it's it's more like ninety nine percent of 232 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: the time, it's amazing. And then when you get triggered 233 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: and I get triggered, it's like two bullets colliding into 234 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: each other. Your triggered behaviors come in and my triggered 235 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: behaviors come in. So it's it was more to I 236 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: want to know you on a deeper level from from 237 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 2: that sense and for you to recognize certain things of me, 238 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 2: which is why we do it. And I think it's 239 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: important to have someone with more within a knowledge and 240 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: expertise in the middle to mediate that m H. And 241 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: it's not like like everybody's got growth in life and 242 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: the whole thing about a therapy, I think it's actually 243 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: a really intelligent and powerful thing that we go and 244 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: do it even though we don't have any major issues, 245 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: because that's when normally when people go, yeah, we're doing 246 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 2: it in a way that okay, we're intelligent. We're getting 247 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: to know each other's history and delve deeper into that 248 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: so that we can monitor and address our behaviors. 249 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think there's something well I like to learn. 250 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: Like for me, it's a learning experience about. 251 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 3: The only thing is when we go we always go 252 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 3: in the back of an argument. 253 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: Oh, I know, it's always like to darn it. We 254 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: were so like, it's been three weeks of just bliss. 255 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 3: We get therapies, that's what it is. 256 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: No, but it's I always learn something about you and 257 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: it that makes me Oh, I could see why you 258 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: would totally think that. 259 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 3: Now, yes, would be gruel. 260 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I kind of brought this up a few 261 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: weeks ago with the girls, but about why it was 262 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: important for me at the softball game, you know, to 263 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: be so focused on Jolie and you were like, why 264 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: why were you upset that? I you know, you called 265 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: me over to help with Roman and so it's like 266 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: being able to dissect that in therapy and go in 267 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: my heart and it was well, I didn't have that 268 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: support by my from my family. So that's why I'm 269 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: super laser focused on it, and so I think it's 270 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: I think it's a really good thing. And yeah, it's 271 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: most people go when there is some big explosion. And 272 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: I like the fact that we're able to go all right, 273 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: this is our our our monthly check in to go, 274 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: how is it working? Where can I do better? Where 275 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: can I learn? Where can I grow? Because if not, 276 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: then it's just you can build up resentment. And what 277 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: I've learned from past is that built up resentment will 278 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: eventually explode. 279 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the relationship has grown because of 280 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: the I have more clarity on where your head goes 281 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: in celt in situation, and hopefully you have more on 282 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: my mind goes I either baseball, softball situation. 283 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. You know it's interesting though that I've learned and 284 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I how I react now 285 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: is very different to how I react how I reacted 286 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: in my past. So like if something were to happen 287 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: in my past, I would react immediately. I would get 288 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, super in the face and defend and fight 289 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: and you know, just want to hash it out. And now, 290 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: through my work, you know, I've realized that that serves 291 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: no purpose when anyone's heated or in the red. So 292 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: I it's not that I shut down, but I just 293 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: I back away and just have to process and calm down. 294 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: But how you which I'm actually glad because you are 295 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: kind of me back then, like you want to resolve 296 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: right away? 297 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate things lying. I think. 298 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 2: I think still negativity is it can quite easily turn 299 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 2: into toxicity if you don't address it. So therefore I'm 300 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: the one that tries to You've probably dealt with it 301 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: load more than what I have when it comes to that. Right, Therefore, 302 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 2: you've got your emotional intelligence around. 303 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: It's probably heightened and grown. Right. I'm not saying that 304 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 3: I don't Oh, I'm not saying that I always handle 305 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 3: it badly, But I still want to find a solution 306 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 3: because I don't want to be sat in negativity in 307 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 3: the house, whereas you're happy to walk away let it lie, 308 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 3: whereas I'm like, no, I knocked on the. 309 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: Door and I'm like, ah, I just don't think anything 310 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: anything will get solved when people are in like in 311 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: a in a in conflict, you have to just like 312 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: I believe, to take you just need to take a beat. 313 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: I agree, and I think that's you know, certain things 314 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: and tools for us to be able to be like, hey, 315 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: let's not talk about this now, but let's revisit. It's 316 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: always let's revisit it because you can't again you don't 317 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: want to build it up. 318 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a part of Okay, maybe this has 319 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: come up, but we're good. Yeah, long term, we're good. 320 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 2: We'll say for all right, no one needs to panic here. Yeah, 321 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 2: so let's let it live and hover. 322 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: In so you know, when Mike White does call and 323 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: we have to talk through, that could be one of 324 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: the things like this is you know, we can bring 325 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: it to our monthly our monthly meeting and said, listen, 326 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: I got offered this part, and. 327 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: That's when I'll give the therapist a brown envelope with 328 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 2: some cash in it. In fact, me, on this, you 329 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: would corrupts Sweden comes in. 330 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: You know, it could be fun. Is because I always 331 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: love couples retreat, that'd be it probably just because I 332 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 1: love therapy, but I think that could be kind of cool, 333 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: a couple's retreat, Like oh no, well, yes, do you want. 334 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 3: Some guy behind you going boom boom. 335 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: No, yes, you, but I to two things. Would you 336 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: ever do a couple's retreat? Like a therapy retreat. And two, 337 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: I think what loaders should do that and I would 338 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: like to be in it. Think would you do it? 339 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: Or do you think it's over kill? 340 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 3: I don't know. 341 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: It's a good question because then the point of conversation 342 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: a lot of the days could be around what the 343 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 2: couples are experiencing, and some couples might not want to 344 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: share that information that might become awkward. Yeah, I think 345 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 2: in theory it's a good idea, but I think here's 346 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: what here's what I don't like about it. Right, if 347 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: you're doing a couple's retreat and it's like a couple's 348 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 2: therapy retreat, and let's see, you're doing it with five 349 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 2: other couples, a lot of people could think that these couples, 350 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 2: you'll get into this and there's there's there's weakness in 351 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 2: your marriage. So then you get some rat within the 352 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 2: couple's retreat that tries to that tries to sniff that out, and. 353 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, a good White Lotus episode right there. 354 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 3: Someday ends up getting a slap one day two. 355 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: No, I mean personally, I think I've always wanted to 356 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: do those retreats solo. I think those would be really 357 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: fun to do, like those Robinson you know, what is 358 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: his name, Tim Robbins, like those like I think that 359 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: that was could kind of be fun. But I I 360 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: would just want on vacation with you. And I'm like, 361 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about any issues here, you know, 362 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: it's just a question. 363 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 3: Just thought, let's just go on vacation room mates. 364 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, I would prefer to do Yeah, I. 365 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 3: Would sind of a set of a couples retreat. 366 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would. I would just want us. I like 367 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,479 Speaker 1: to just when we have time together, which is very 368 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: exciting because we are going to Paris in the fall. 369 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: I've never been to Paris. I'm so excited that I'm 370 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: doing a Wontree Hill convention and I am so looking 371 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: forward to that trip. I told you all on the 372 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: other day, I'm like, I just need to have something 373 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: like that on the books, and I'm so excited because 374 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: we're going to make a little mini VC out of it. 375 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: Another thing which shall not tell me about. 376 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I also have a little surprise for our 377 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: one year wedding anniversary because this is the this is 378 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: the first year ever of having an honest, loving year 379 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: anniversary like I've never had that literally I started to 380 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: think about that. I'm like, I've never had no one 381 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: has been faithful that I was married to in a 382 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: year ever ever, because you got to think he met 383 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: his affair girl on his bachelor party and they slept 384 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: together our entire first year. I found out like two 385 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: months after our year anniversary. So I'm like, I was like, 386 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: I've never experienced this for a year, and we're gonna 387 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: celebrate and we're going to go somewhere magical that we've 388 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: both never been for three nights. I'm so excited. And 389 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: I'm not telling you. We're just gonna show up at 390 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: the airport and we're gonna go. All I can say 391 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: is in the United States, and it's gonna be so 392 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: fun and I cannot wait. 393 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 3: Stay channing, I just tell me what's the pike? 394 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: So if we cannot do couples therapy. Before having said that, though, 395 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say I'm a big advocate. Like I said, 396 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: I feel like you always walk out stronger go into therapy. 397 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because the only issue I have with 398 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 2: it as we walk on now on this atrafice is Okay, 399 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 2: what card am I using? 400 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I told her. Stop saying that because 401 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: it triggers something within you. But just FYI, okay, well, 402 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: on that note, chat with your husband see how he 403 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: feels about couples there. And watch White Lotus because it 404 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: was really fun, especially season one.