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Speaker 2: it's me Raz.

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Speaker 3: I've got my best friend Sam Pancake on the show today.

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Speaker 3: He's an actor comedian, constantly popping up on TV. He's

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Speaker 3: on my parents' favorite TV show called A Million Little Things,

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Speaker 3: which is on ABC. And when we recorded this, my

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Speaker 3: description of this episode. I'll also be posting that on

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Speaker 3: my Instagram, which is at raz Hernandez, so you could

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Speaker 3: find it that way. I got all these messages after

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Speaker 3: last week's episode with Kara Connors. Was I was actually shocked.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't what I thought I was gonna get. I

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Speaker 3: I got messages about well, actually I did get a

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Speaker 3: was talking about with her girlfriend where they they both

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Speaker 3: felt physical pain. If you don't know what I'm talking about,

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Speaker 3: go back and listen to last week's episode. But it's

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Speaker 3: an interesting thing, and it's very similar to I mean,

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Speaker 2: On the show.

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Speaker 3: If you've had these experiences, send them to me. I'm

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Speaker 3: so fascinated by this. I don't exactly know the proper

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Speaker 3: Parapsychology type term for when two people can feel each

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Speaker 3: other's physical pain. I'm sure I know what it is

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Speaker 3: somewhere one of these books I got. But anyway, I've

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Speaker 3: been listening to the audio book of the Mothman Prophecies,

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Speaker 3: the original book John Keel, and looking into his research

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Speaker 3: more and that shit gets so weird and I believe

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Speaker 3: it all and I love it. And so I got

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Speaker 1: Hello.

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Speaker 3: Wayspatreon dot com slash rawls, driz Feles link in the

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Speaker 3: description for a weekly episode this week video all that

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Speaker 3: on with the show.

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Speaker 2: You guys.

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Speaker 3: I'm joined by my best friend, Sam Pancake.

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Speaker 1: Hello, I'm now been rendered death from your announcement. It

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Speaker 1: came in a loud and clear sister.

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Speaker 2: Hi baby, Hi. I dodn't want to put labels on it,

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Speaker 2: but we are very close friends.

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Speaker 1: I was in a real it was a real big deal.

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Speaker 1: It was a real.

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Speaker 2: I was just in the stork nest.

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Speaker 1: I was just at the Pittsburgh Heines Museum last month.

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Speaker 3: Well, something else that you did on this trip was

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Speaker 3: I was just trying to do like what they like,

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Speaker 1: Everything's haunted. It They have this amazing the tours we

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Speaker 1: The tour the part you have start paying for. Oh yeah, so,

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Speaker 3: There, Well, West Virginia. Is there's some freaky shit going

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Speaker 2: Say her name, Mothman.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's been a minute since I paid attention,

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Speaker 2: Yes? Have you ever heard of the hex the hexham heads?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? No, two little girls broken glass in their bed.

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Speaker 2: What's the worst thing you've ever woken up in your bed?

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you on the air.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you once I'm back in my drinking days.

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Speaker 3: I took it as a challenge to get a fifty

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Speaker 2: This is good.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And I woke up the next day with barbecue sauce,

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Speaker 2: Barbecue sly it's delicious?

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Speaker 1: Or is there did a man sleepover who has barbecue

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Speaker 2: Sounds like a dream.

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Speaker 1: I have woken up to some people that I have

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Speaker 2: This shit is weird. It gets weirder though, God. So

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Speaker 2: I've heard of I've heard of puppy play.

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Speaker 3: I've heard of you know, I've heard of kind of

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Speaker 2: It's bad our goat play.

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Speaker 1: That joke that was good.

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Speaker 2: That was good.

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Speaker 1: You gotta be kidding me.

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Speaker 2: Some goat body.

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Speaker 1: So I'm named Frank and just some guys like clop

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Speaker 3: Remember that time I'm on a road trip, we passed

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Speaker 3: But okay, so back to the goat man and the

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Speaker 2: Hey, can you explain?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah that or it's like, hey, my little stoneheads

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Speaker 2: Well, actually, you know what, I'll show you a picture.

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Speaker 1: Holy crap, it looks like it almost could be a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're like stone myth of.

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Speaker 1: The evil heads. Oh my god, how do I not

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Speaker 2: It's not they're not cute.

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Speaker 1: No, they're they're genuinely creepy. They're off putting.

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Speaker 2: And on a separate occasion, her daughter sees it too.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if it's the same creature and they all

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Speaker 3: You know, what's really weird is that Hexham, the same

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it does have hex and you might as

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Speaker 1: Your you know jenk Sally or you know, bad luck

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Speaker 2: It's not good bad luck by you.

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Speaker 1: Where I met my last boyfriend?

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Speaker 2: Oh is he doing?

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Speaker 1: Why did they say Vaudeville is dead when I'm very much,

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Speaker 3: So there's a man named Desmond Craggy Sure, who I

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Speaker 2: Like this ain't it doesn't go Oh really no, because you.

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Speaker 2: Right, and they were like, no, these ones looked like

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Speaker 3: So it seems like that kind of got dismissed. However,

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Speaker 3: It's not good craftsmanship. I wouldn't be like setting up

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00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 3: a thing at a flea market.

445
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 1: Just one of tension. He wanted to sell more of them.

446
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 1: I think it's I smell that behind.

447
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I don't know. So he says he made

448
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 2: him for his daughter whatever.

449
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 1: So they got through a picture of her. She's literally

450
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 1: half sheep, half woman. She's like, what about it? Well about.

451
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 2: Ohm a devil goo.

452
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 1: I apologize to you England.

453
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 2: I apologize to any half sheep half women that might

454
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 2: be listening today.

455
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: Well you please forgive me, Oh, we're.

456
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,959
Speaker 3: Not trying to be this kind of show. We're trying

457
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 3: to be Hygebrow.

458
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: Made the mistake of hiring, hiring.

459
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Speaker 3: Hiring, Yeah, I will be paying you in these two

460
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 3: heads I've found in my garden. So they start like,

461
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 3: you know, tossing them around to different scientists and different

462
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 3: museums and world renowned leaders are like, you know, researching

463
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:54,479
Speaker 3: this stuff.

464
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 2: Currently, no one knows where they're at.

465
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: Oh, well that shit disappears, you know, you know, that goes.

466
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: It's just up and disappears. They've been missing for They

467
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 1: just appeared right in the sky's yard. Yeah, they just

468
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 1: like appeared one day. It wasn't like there was a

469
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: storm and the flood, the water wash the thing.

470
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 2: They they don't know. So one of these days they're

471
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 2: going to pop back up.

472
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 1: Not in my well, they're digging a hole in my backyard. Now,

473
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: who knows it's going to come out.

474
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 2: I would love that.

475
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 1: And okay I almost said something and then I didn't

476
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Speaker 1: say it. I'm really proud of myself for biting my tongue.

477
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 3: Good for you. So that's pretty much the story of

478
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 3: the heck sum that's.

479
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to do some more research on that.

480
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm.

481
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 2: What's froun in my research?

482
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: No it's terrible enough.

483
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: No, no, I'm not good enough for you. I spent

484
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 2: a lot of time on that.

485
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: That was amazing. I'm going to do my own research.

486
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 2: There's always a vaccine, yes.

487
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 1: Yes, I just you know, I have my I do

488
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: my own research on everything, including my healthcare, you.

489
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 2: Know, like my Johnson and Johnson Hike some head research.

490
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 1: With my BFA and theater. I think I know more

491
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: than doctors. I'm sorry, I've played doctors. I don't even

492
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 1: I was going through my reds or thinking about stuff.

493
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't even think I've played a doctor.

494
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 1: I know I've played a couple of nurses, and nurses

495
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 1: do more work than I'm sorry, but nurses do the work.

496
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: I've been in the detox word.

497
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 2: I have Hello, Hello, and yes I have, and that's

498
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 2: what we have in common. Okay, I gotta tell you

499
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 2: about somebody else.

500
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: Oh Pip. Oh I know about Pip.

501
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 2: Yes, keep going, No you don't, because Pip is a

502
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: haunted eBay doll that I discovered on eBay, currently going

503
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 2: for forty five dollars. Oh, who were you thinking?

504
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about the lead character in David Copperfield or

505
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: Great Expectations. No, I listened to a lot of podcasts

506
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: are about the supernatural, and I thought that I was.

507
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of another thing with a creature, like what

508
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: I listened to your one with with Patent and Meredith,

509
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: and I knew that whole thing about the mongoose. There's

510
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: an extent. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was.

511
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Pip go.

512
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 3: This is Pip who is currently going for forty five

513
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 3: dollars on eBay. If you're new around here, I have

514
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 3: an obsession with haunted eBay dolls.

515
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Lorraine Warren, are you going to open

516
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: some new like room filled with glass the trines and

517
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: evil dolls in your home?

518
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: Because I don't approve that. Okay, Yeah, I mean I

519
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 2: know that's what I was hoping.

520
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 1: For, raised you?

521
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

522
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 3: Should we shall some note that my parents are in

523
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: town and they're in the room right now.

524
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: So this is Pip right here?

525
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: Is that a ribbon or devil horns? How many times it's.

526
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 3: Unclear if you are listening to the audio of this podcast,

527
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 3: this podcast will at some point beyond YouTube, so you

528
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 3: could watch it.

529
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Speaker 1: Okay, First up, against a Ouija board for one.

530
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Speaker 2: You know, I actually don't know the under a Pip.

531
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to gender this this object.

532
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 3: Because Pip has on overall's flannels.

533
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: It's got a traditional farm boy body dress, a flannel

534
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: ringlet curls on top, Shirley temple on top, hair.

535
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 2: Chirley temple on top, farmer to bottom.

536
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: Red spikes protruding out of the Cheirley Temple curls.

537
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: I think it's a ribbon, okay, I think it's supposed

538
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 2: to be a ribbon.

539
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, that looks a little. It could also pass as

540
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: devil horns in this photograph.

541
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: So let's read about Pip. Now. Sometimes these are written somehow,

542
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 2: some way by the actual doll, and this is an example.

543
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: Got to go.

544
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 3: So here's Pip. Pip somehow got behind a MacBook and

545
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 3: typed up their personal as uber.

546
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: Okay, hi, Pip here, I hate cows.

547
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: A sorry about the farm comment.

548
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 3: They ran me over and now I'm here stupid cows.

549
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 3: This is what it says. I didn't even get to

550
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,719
Speaker 3: turn five yet. Oh no, this is more disappointing than

551
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 3: when Mama said she wouldn't cut my crust. Ridiculous. What

552
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 3: do I do now? I need a new family. I

553
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 3: can't eat or taste anything. It's so weird. I can

554
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: see you, but can you hear me? Can you see

555
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 3: when I move? It takes a lot of effort, So

556
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 3: please be patient if you're watching me. Try I need

557
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 3: some new friends. I miss my mama.

558
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: So this is the spirit of a little boy. Who's

559
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: possessing this doll?

560
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? Who says the person that's selling this on even

561
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 2: forty five?

562
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:51,959
Speaker 1: Absolutely believe them? Ye? Sure? Why would I pay forty

563
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: five American dollars to put it a possessed piece of

564
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: porcelain with a ragged, ragging muffin top hairdo in my home.

565
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 3: Well, the good news is you don't have to pay

566
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 3: for it, because I'm not willing to buy it for you.

567
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: I am going to respectfully pass on your offer.

568
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 2: Well it okay.

569
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 3: I thought you would maybe have a new friend that

570
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 3: hates cows.

571
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: I don't hate cows. I eat them, that's for sure.

572
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: I don't like that.

573
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry.

574
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: Well it was worth the shot. We just had a

575
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 3: short little one today that was pip.

576
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: I don't peep into this world, but is there like

577
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: a world of haunted dolls? On eBay.

578
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 3: Oh honey, I'm like, yes, I'm on top of it. Okay,

579
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 3: I've got so many alerts on my phone when a

580
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 3: new Actually, Naomi Peagon just sent me one that says

581
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 3: that it's a smoker and drinker doll that's up for

582
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 3: sale right now.

583
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: What does that mean?

584
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: Wait, let's let's haunted all the drinks and smokes? Yeah?

585
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: Is this me in twenty ten?

586
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, I mean tell me to lose weight this one. Okay?

587
00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: Look at her? Oh, she kind of looks like Lucy Ball, yes,

588
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: or somebody.

589
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: It's like, if Lucille Ball, then a little bit of

590
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: like I don't know, idol a pino in there. She's

591
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: got such an assussient. It's like it looks like a

592
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: middle aged child that does drink in smoke, who like

593
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: has scene at all.

594
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: But she's only seven, a middle aged child. I love that.

595
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: I'm saying, yeah, totally. Oh she's got a vest on.

596
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: What are those bottoms? Is that a silver jobper, a

597
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: silk job per, and a hunting booth?

598
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: Wait, let's read about it.

599
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: Lord. What next?

600
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 3: Eva is from the nineteen twenties era. She grew up

601
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 3: in Santiago, Chili and moved to the US when she

602
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 3: was a teenager. She doesn't really talk much about this

603
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: era of her life. She tends to focus on the

604
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 3: best years of her life, which is when she was

605
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 3: in her thirties and forties. She loves to smoke Parliament cigarettes.

606
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 3: She is a very very heavy smoker. She smells of

607
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 3: smoke and is very grateful for a lit cigarette as

608
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: an offering. She spent most of her time in bars.

609
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 3: She's an alcoholic. She's a funny drunk and would have

610
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 3: the whole bar and become friends with her. She mostly

611
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: drinks whiskey. However, she will never turn down any drink.

612
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 3: I also leave her alcohol as offerings. She has a

613
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 3: very scratchy voice, probably from so much smoking.

614
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: Well, good guess thanks.

615
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 3: Her accent is quite strange as it is a combination

616
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: of Chilean and New Yorker. She is a great friend

617
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 3: and would make an excellent partner for someone who likes

618
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: to drink, laugh and hang out. Evil will appear to

619
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 3: you in her genes, usually jeans no.

620
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: G, E, N E S.

621
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: Maybe she's just a miss spelling.

622
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 3: Evil will appear to you in her genes, usually in

623
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 3: a bar scenario.

624
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 2: Maybe dreams. I don't know. I kind of lot of her.

625
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: She sounds like fun.

626
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: For sure, buy that. Put that in your life. Here's

627
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: my question.

628
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: Okay, so the eighteen dollars, Okay.

629
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: That just why first of all, so much to say? Also,

630
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: don't haunt me anyone. I'm haunted enough by all my regrets.

631
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: Who are we being at? What are we being asked

632
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: to believe? He? Who is the person selling this? I

633
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: want to interview them at length, like why they're if

634
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: it's such.

635
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: I do because I make a lot of fun at

636
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 3: these people and I don't want.

637
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: Well, I'm as curious, like why they're they're getting rid

638
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: of their pip or what's your name?

639
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: That's a lot of times.

640
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 3: My question is if these dolls are so great, why

641
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 3: would you get rid of them?

642
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: Thank you?

643
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 3: My other question is, so you die, you can you know,

644
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 3: maybe go to heaven, maybe you go to hell if.

645
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: That's what you're incarnation, whatever you believe.

646
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 3: Reincarnation, you become a ghost stuck in a house, or

647
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 3: you can go inside of a doll and be sold

648
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: for forty five dollars.

649
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and smoke, Like if I was going to be

650
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: reincarnated as a smoker, I would just be reincarnated as

651
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: a person who gets.

652
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: This person smok. Can you choose?

653
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if you I don't know if you

654
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: can choose. They always say, you know, you choose your parent,

655
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: You choose your parents to teach you a lesson. And

656
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: when I hear that, I'm like, and I pick these two?

657
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,719
Speaker 1: What was was I drunk? Pre nat? Wait?

658
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: Wait so when you get reincarnated? Oh no, there's just

659
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: like different chooses who your parents are.

660
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: There's lots of you know, spiritual situations. I've just heard

661
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: and I can't get into specific sos. I'm too tired

662
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: and I don't know them. But it's just like, you know,

663
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: in this path and coming back, and you choose your

664
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: parents to teach you the lessons you need. But it's

665
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: before It's like I wasn't saying pancake, choosing Robin Joe pancake.

666
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: It was like whatever spirit I was, it was like,

667
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: these two should be interesting. That's why I wake up

668
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like, why did I choose pancake and being

669
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: gay and being from West Virginia and these two? Like

670
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: I love my parents, I'm not. It's just like I'm like,

671
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: I really set myself up for a wacky life, and

672
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: that's what I'm living. But what I don't need is

673
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: a haunted doll who's gonna smoke my parliaments when I'm

674
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: behind my back. They're twelve dollars a pack.

675
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: Now in California, you're not sharing your parliament.

676
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: Eva. I know when you were child and chili they

677
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: were a penny a puff, but now it's not like today. No,

678
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: it's really dear, dear heart. I'm just curious why I

679
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: want the story of why this seller is selling this doll.

680
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: Don't you think that's very important? No? Like if oh, okay,

681
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: I don't, this is this will be the this will

682
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: be the end of you. Then you need to be

683
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: very This is how horror movies start. I'm sorry to

684
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: say this in a room with the people.

685
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: I love horror movies.

686
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: I know, but have you ever started one? No? Me, neither.

687
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 2: No, Sam. Do you want to hear some ghost voices?

688
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: Of course I do.

689
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: Okay, it's time for evp's or ev police.

690
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: Sam, you have been on this podcast. This is your

691
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: third appearance.

692
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: Am I like the third Am I the am I

693
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: the only person in the three time club.

694
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: Now there's a couple others, and I apologize.

695
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm I'm the only one who's not a paranormal professional.

696
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: Who's who's not in.

697
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 3: The Oh that's an interesting idea maybe, so just tell

698
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 3: me you. So, if anyone listening to this wants to

699
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 3: hear all of your lovely, terrifying, spooky ghost there's two

700
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: other episodes, so go back and listen. Okay, so, Sam,

701
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 3: you already know. I go to YouTube. I find alleged

702
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 3: ghost voices that are recorded, also known as electronic voice

703
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: phenomenon also known as EV. Please, I'm gonna make you

704
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 3: guess what you hear. I'll give you some options.

705
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I'm ready.

706
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: All right. This is from.

707
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: Arkansas Ghost Hunters and the location I was not able

708
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 3: to figure out. Uh so we'll have a lot of

709
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: fun imagining. And what is this ghost saying?

710
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: Oh? It happened so quickly? Did I hear it again?

711
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 1: Let's keep it going.

712
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: Let's keep it going.

713
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 1: I keep it going.

714
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 2: I really hear that.

715
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, So that's allegedly a ghost voice.

716
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

717
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: Wow, that's one of the clearest I've heard.

718
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: It's a good one. Yeah, let's keep it going.

719
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 3: See I'm picturing that it's like a host of a

720
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 3: comedy show, like, let's keep it going for your next stact.

721
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, you gotta get away.

722
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, here's some options. Is it a you silly guy?

723
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: Is it B? Get the guard? Is it C, let's

724
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: keep it going?

725
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 1: Can we hear it again?

726
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: Or d oh my god, my.

727
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: Name's evemore cigarette. Well it's funny because I first heard

728
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: let's keep it going without being prompted, and now that

729
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: you put these other things in my brain, I hear

730
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: the guard thing, but I really my first instinct is

731
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: let's keep it going.

732
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: They think it's B get the guard?

733
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: Oh can I hear it again? Sorry? Or let's get

734
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: the guard? Yeah, get the guard.

735
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: I hear let's keep it going. But nonetheless I would something.

736
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: I gotta like some context, like if it was or

737
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: a middle asylum.

738
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: I know.

739
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 3: Okay, let's do one more. This is from doctor Regina

740
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 3: Wolf speaking of wolves.

741
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: I know, and speaking of trans Alleghany Lunatic asylum in

742
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 2: Western Virginia.

743
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: Dr Western West West.

744
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 3: Western West Virginia. Uh, doctor Regina Wolf captured.

745
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: This was the distant voice the ghost Yeah saying oh

746
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: my god.

747
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: I mean that's really what it sounds like.

748
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: That's so clear. All of that is supposed is an

749
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: e VP.

750
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,959
Speaker 2: All those according to doctor Regina Wolf.

751
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: That gave me chills. Yeah, and I've listened to these

752
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: on your podcast many times and being on your podcast,

753
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: listen to them and these are two of the clearest

754
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: I've ever heard.

755
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 2: Wow.

756
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: Oh that visceral chill that gave me. Also, it's the

757
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: energy of around it, which is kind of like alarmed,

758
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: I think is part of it. But that really so.

759
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 2: You think it says what now, oh my god?

760
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: Like that, Oh my god.

761
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 3: Okay, here's the first option is that he oh my god, look,

762
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: which that's something when I was younger, I used to

763
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 3: always do to those star line tours when they would

764
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: drive by.

765
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: I would always be.

766
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 3: Like, oh my god, look it's whoever, you know, some

767
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 3: celebrity to see if they would turn, Oh my god,

768
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 3: look is it b I just got goth. Look No,

769
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: maybe it's somebody that just became See Oh you're not

770
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 3: or d are you not shook?

771
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: It's not that.

772
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: Okay, well let's let's listen. Open mind.

773
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: I feel like it's, oh my god, something drop, there's

774
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: like a crash and then his look it's definitely.

775
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god, look and this, I mean that just sounds.

776
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: Like a person that was a western a t l

777
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: A t l t A l A.

778
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: Is that what they call it?

779
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: Everything was like tala t a la trends.

780
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's what they got here. Oh my god, Look,

781
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 3: it sounds like a human to me speaking a living human.

782
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: It does sound like a living human.

783
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 3: Okay, Sam, let's do one more thing. Let's talk about

784
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: just some random paranormal phenomena.

785
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 2: See what comes up for you. We've done this before.

786
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: Last time we covered psychics and bigfoot and stuff like that. However,

787
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 3: something that's interesting about psychics. Have you been to any

788
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 3: psychics since since the last time you were on this podcast,

789
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 3: which would have been maybe a year ago or lass.

790
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: Well, no, not specifically, but we did.

791
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: We both went to the experience we had together that one.

792
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: Three times guest of this podcast, Rachel R. H. Davis,

793
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 3: who we haven't talked a lot about it on this podcast,

794
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 3: but she's like an incredible medium. Yeah, and we went

795
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 3: over to her house and she was reading like a

796
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: bunch of people, like a group reading.

797
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: We had what she called a seance.

798
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, I guess it was kind of

799
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 3: she was doing kind of like, okay, I'm getting you know, this.

800
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: Channeling some people from the other side, and it was

801
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: really amazing.

802
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 2: It was powerful.

803
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: It was a wonderful night.

804
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: Nobody wanted to talk to me, none of my or mine.

805
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: But remember what she said was like the people that

806
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: came through were people that had been there before and

807
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: it was our first time at one of these. And

808
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: she said that the spirits that are like were in

809
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: life would not kind of elbow the way to the front,

810
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't speak to us. Sometimes it takes a few times,

811
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: but people that like the one person I don't want

812
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: to get into the specifics, but like someone's relative came

813
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: through that they said it was always very pushy and

814
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: loud and the front of the line, and that's who

815
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: came through, right, a couple of those people.

816
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 3: But it was like people were really like reacting to

817
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 3: it was it was intensive. Yeah, it was a lovely night.

818
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: And the food was great.

819
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: She's the best.

820
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: She is the best.

821
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 3: Okay, So let's let me hear your thoughts on moving

822
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 3: things with your mind. Oh do you think that that's

823
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 3: a possible thing?

824
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, god, I don't know about you,

825
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: but I know that's all I cared about. When I

826
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: was little, I would read ESP books and try to

827
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: move things with my mind.

828
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 3: ESP was big in like sixties seventies, definitely.

829
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: It was Bermuda Triangle and ESP Yes, and then Carrie

830
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: came out the movie Carrie and Watch Out, and it

831
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: was everyone's most of us is a lot of us

832
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: as fantasies to be able to have telekinesis, to reach

833
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: his minds. I tried all the time. Me and my

834
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: siblings are like, you know what, which card is this?

835
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: Which card is this? Or like try to move things

836
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: with our minds. But I think you maybe can impact

837
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: the energy around you if you're evolved and have worked

838
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: on it hard enough and long enough. It's a practice

839
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: as a human being, and so now tapping into some

840
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: frequency and energy that's beyond the normal human realm. But

841
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would love I would love

842
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: to be proven wrong. I don't know if there's a

843
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: human being out there like the you're a Gellers of

844
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: the world. He was the guy who could bend spoons

845
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: with his mind. Remember that, and he was proven to

846
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: be a fake. Because I've listened to a lot of podcasts.

847
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 2: I like that the Amazing Randy.

848
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: Amazing Randy debunks a lot of stuff, and there's a

849
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 1: couple of things that not even Amazing Randy could debunk,

850
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: but which I'm always like, Wow. But the things, the moving,

851
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: the bending, the spoon and stuff is all kind of debunked.

852
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 2: Ery Geller is still around. Is he bend in those spoons?

853
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: He better not said that, Like he's a next door

854
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: somewhere replacement oon shape metal hip replace but it's bending.

855
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: I don't have hip replacement.

856
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: I would be tasted off if Uriy Geller came over

857
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: for dinner and it's dessert time. We're eating ice cream,

858
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 3: and now all my.

859
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 2: Spoons are drooping gorgeous. I kia spoons.

860
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, high end that I.

861
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: Spent seven dollars for a full pack of fifty.

862
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: F d or like a hairpin, because it wasn't how

863
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: cheap they were. It's just Uri damn Geller, Uri Geller,

864
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: damn minds like snapping fingers.

865
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you think about astro projection.

866
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: Again? I'm open to anything happening. I don't I have

867
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: this this person I know who's a friend. I guess

868
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: who I'm kind of not friends with any more who

869
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,959
Speaker 1: claims to do it all the time. I just wish

870
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 1: that or I haven't talked to this person a while.

871
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: He didn't used to claim he could do it all

872
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: the time. I wish I would like to find a

873
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: person who says they can do it. And I'm sure

874
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: they're out there. I'm not saying they don't exist. The

875
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: people that I knew that say they can do it.

876
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: I also know there a lot of drugs, and uh,

877
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: maybe there.

878
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: Could be truth to that.

879
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: I think if you're on drugs, it's possible that your

880
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 3: spiritual body.

881
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: Is depends on the drugs. But I mean, like, can

882
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: you do it without drugs? Wouldn't that be the ultimate?

883
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: If you buy un undiluded by substances, could just do it,

884
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: wouldn't that be the dream?

885
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I really want to a lot of people

886
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 2: say you can learn.

887
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: I think I'm sure that people. There are classes, there

888
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: are teachers, anything is out there if you want to

889
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: give it the time. I'm sure it's like anything. It's

890
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: a practice, you know. Sure, yes, I do believe in it.

891
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: I guess I'm doubtful of this one person in my

892
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: life who uses I want to do a character where

893
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: someone's like, they can't text you back because they've been

894
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: astral projecting for a week and they couldn't get to

895
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: the phone. Literally a quote.

896
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: Uh so that's what this person said to you said

897
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 3: to a friend of mine, said, I've been asked.

898
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 1: I will tell you the whole story later.

899
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 3: Somebody told me one time a famous celebrity astra projected

900
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 3: and couldn't get back into their body, which is like

901
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 3: the nightmare. I'm not gonna repeat this because I don't

902
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 3: know if this was a true story or what. But

903
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 3: that's what scares me, Like, what what if you can't

904
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 3: get back in and you're flopping or you're like opening up?

905
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: Do you go in the front or the back? How

906
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: do you get in? How do you.

907
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: Open that door? I might say something you don't want

908
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: to hear.

909
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 3: Okay, what do you think about trolls being real?

910
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: Me on the internet under the bridge trolls?

911
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 3: How about let's just talk about ice lnted creatures in general?

912
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 3: Yes you think Do you hear about that recent wolf

913
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 3: man or that little creature that is going all around

914
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 3: the internet right now that was found in Texas?

915
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: No, what you're thinking of? Ted Cruz.

916
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: This thing was captured in Texas.

917
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: Well, that just gave me the chills. But that could

918
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: be a person in a suit.

919
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 3: Well, that's why a lot of people are theorizing. It

920
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 3: could be a lot of different things. Is it a

921
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 3: cheap of cabra? Is it a person in a in

922
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 3: a thing in a costume?

923
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's unclear to me.

924
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: If the dimensions were less like human with the costume on,

925
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: I might be more like, holy shit, but.

926
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 3: It or is it just like a wolf stood up

927
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: for two seconds? Let me see, because it's also just

928
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 3: a photograph.

929
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 1: Those back legs and that the length of the legs

930
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: is to me, those look more like human legs. They

931
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: didn't look like wolf legs. Wolf legs. Woolfs look like wolves,

932
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: look like dogs. Those aren't dog legs. Yeah, that looks

933
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: like someone you know, spoof and spoof in us. But

934
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 1: I do not what's the word I'm looking for. I'm

935
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: not trying to poke the bear or the wolf in

936
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: this case and get things coming at me. So I'm like,

937
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm just like, hooray for everyone, live your kookie crypted life.

938
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: Stay out of my back yard, keep your little ball

939
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: heads out of my hole. Wait, that's not it. Yard,

940
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: that's it. Keep going, that's recent. I need to look

941
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: further into that. I need.

942
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just it just happened recently. I don't

943
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 2: know when this is going to air.

944
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: But it did.

945
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: Okay. What about synchronicities, Oh?

946
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean I feel.

947
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 3: Like you and I, since we've met each other, have

948
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 3: always been into that the energy.

949
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: There's always something that literally happened today that was concerning

950
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: what I just told you about before we started this

951
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: work thing, and something that I was writing, and then this.

952
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: It's it's not that not that it was that huge

953
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: of a surprise, this work thing, but as we know,

954
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: when these jobs and offers come in, it's it can

955
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: be few and far between. Sometimes. What am I trying

956
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: to say? Yes, I believe in synchronicity. I think you

957
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: create your own synchronicity if you really like put the

958
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: energy forth and it's a part of your say spiritual

959
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: practice or something you're concentrating on or trying to manifest

960
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 1: or doing the practice behind it. Absolutely, and then also

961
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: there are ways in which I mean, I don't know

962
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: if this happens to you, I know it happens to

963
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people and some of us just being

964
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: hyper vigilant and hyper aware of your surroundings because you've

965
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: never felt safe in your body anyway. But you will

966
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: hear You'll be reading a word and then unrelated something

967
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: and you'll hear the same word on the ring.

968
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, all the time and all the time.

969
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: And that they say that that means you're in the

970
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: right place at the right time, and the right things

971
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 1: are just to be happening. Okay, Sure. I also think

972
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: maybe that means that you're just really aware of what's

973
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: going on, and so your brain you're subconscious, the different

974
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: parts of your brain are just also maybe it's a

975
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: part of an attention just deficitis or that I almost

976
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: certainly have undiagnosed. It's just like picking up all these

977
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: things at once.

978
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: Which is the weird thing to think about.

979
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 3: That is just imagine if we were aware how much

980
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 3: stuff is constantly going on around us at all times.

981
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 1: Well, they say that, and I was just reading another

982
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: yet another book or article about it, like it's a

983
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: if you are present, which is what the work is about,

984
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: being present in your body and your life for the

985
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: present moment, not thinking about the past or projecting onto

986
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: the future, or like being distracted by other things other

987
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: than the present moment, and you sink into that, and

988
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: then you should be aware of that all's going around you,

989
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: because it's not it's so much. It's all math, you

990
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, it's all numbers in math

991
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 1: and everything and the universe and quantum physics and blah

992
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: blah blah, and I'm not smart enough to understand any

993
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: of it.

994
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: I am.

995
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 3: I just choose not to share it. Oh, I know,

996
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 3: I know all the answers. I just don't want to

997
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 3: share it.

998
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, but I do know the answers.

999
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: Wow, what the hell you're talking to me for?

1000
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 2: Uh No?

1001
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 3: But I feel like there's got to be things that

1002
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 3: we could share that have happened in our lives, either

1003
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 3: together or separate that because I feel like you and

1004
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 3: I always talk about this kind of shit and I

1005
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 3: can't think of anything where it's like.

1006
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: Well, I've always said our conjuring powers are very great

1007
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: together they are.

1008
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, Sam, that's it.

1009
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: That's it. That went so fast? I know more?

1010
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 2: Please, Oh, okay, we can do more. What do you

1011
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 2: think of curses?

1012
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: I think again, it's what you believe. And I think

1013
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: some people I mean again, I've heard some I listened

1014
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: to a lot of podcasts, and I watch a lot

1015
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: of documentaries, as you and I both do, and there

1016
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: are these instances where people truly did seem to be

1017
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: put under a curse, you know, And I just I

1018
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: think of the movie Dragged Me to Hell, because that's

1019
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: a very extreme example. But like that sort of thing,

1020
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: it was like, I do believe that if you believe that,

1021
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: because I know that. I no, I'm not making sense,

1022
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: but like I've had things happen where I'm like, my

1023
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: belief in this is what's gonna fuck me up. That's

1024
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: what's gonna I'll be thinking about that and freaking out.

1025
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: Then I'll see something and I'll turn too fast, and

1026
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: I'll be in my car and I'll get hit by

1027
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: a car because I'm so parent that there's been a

1028
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: curse put on me. Not that this has actually happened

1029
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: to me, but like in other instances, I can just

1030
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: see me or in imaginary instance, like I can see

1031
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: how that would work in terms of like messing with

1032
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: your mind enough if you have that belief in terms

1033
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: of your religion or you believe in curses.

1034
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 2: But if you if you can believe in things like that.

1035
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 2: This is my thought.

1036
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 3: You should be able to also have a strong belief

1037
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 3: in counteracting.

1038
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, now completely.

1039
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 2: You were great and drag me to hell.

1040
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: Thank you. Well. My favorite part is that I can

1041
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: actually vomit, projectile, vomit green goo into another actor's mouth

1042
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 1: for ten minutes without even field.

1043
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 2: That's how you got the job.

1044
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: I got there.

1045
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 3: It was on your resume under special skills in the

1046
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 3: audition room.

1047
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it finally paid off.

1048
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 3: Well, okay, okay, fine, well I'll do do one mare.

1049
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: Okay. What about past lives? You kind of talk?

1050
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have so many stories.

1051
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 2: Have you done past that progression you have? Have We

1052
00:50:58,320 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 2: talked about this.

1053
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: I think brief maybe in the beginning of our friendship.

1054
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: What were you Well, it was a few different things,

1055
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: ok and god, it's too much to get into you

1056
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: right now. But and then at the same time, the

1057
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: situation in which it happened, I was like, there could

1058
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: because I was very young. I was like twenty four

1059
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: or five young compared to me now, And as I

1060
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: read more or later about things can kind of be

1061
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: planted in your head. Because it was sort of a

1062
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: hypnosis thing that we have great imaginations, so maybe the

1063
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: stuff I was coming up with when the person taking

1064
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 1: me through it was like go further back, go further back,

1065
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: And these scenarios came to me and they felt very

1066
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: real and they stayed with me, like I can remember

1067
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: those memories as if they happened to me now. But

1068
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: at the same time, I might have been being manipulated.

1069
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: But here's the good news. I will say this, which

1070
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: might be kind of corny, but when I did that,

1071
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: I got a very strong sense of me, my spirit,

1072
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: my soul, whatever you want to call it, my life force,

1073
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: being eternal and going through these different lives, and that

1074
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: the gift of that session was that because I was

1075
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: at a point in my life where I was much

1076
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: more fatalistic, much more depressed, much more like why bother,

1077
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: much more self loathing, and this gave me this sense

1078
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: of like, this is just one Like again the pancake

1079
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: and being gay. When I'm realizing I was gay so

1080
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 1: young in rural West Virginia, I'm being like, this life

1081
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: is going to be crazy. It gave me a sense like, oh,

1082
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: this is just one of the fun lives, and I

1083
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: get to be Sam Pancake like a fucking cartoon character

1084
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: this life, and so I'm going to enjoy it and

1085
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: not take everything so bloody seriously. Yeah see, and that's

1086
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: kept me, literally kept me alive.

1087
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 3: When I started thinking about past lives, it took away

1088
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 3: my fear of dying.

1089
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly.

1090
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 2: I have no not that I want to me neither

1091
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 2: want to die.

1092
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: I have no fear of dying lightning strike yet like

1093
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: some people, like in Woody Allen Alan, but like other

1094
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 1: people that grew up watching movies of He're like, oh, death,

1095
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm so afraid of death. And I'm like, not that.

1096
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: And I've had a lot of death happen around me too,

1097
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: and that really, you know, you build a different relationship

1098
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 1: with death if you've lost a lot of people. Yeah,

1099
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: especially when you're young.

1100
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 3: Really, I've said this before, but past lives, I this

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00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 3: is my motivational speech. Somebody in a couple of decades

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00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 3: is going to go get a past life progression and

1103
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 3: they're going to say.

1104
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: You were a.

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00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 2: Pharaoh, and then you were a war.

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00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 3: Hero and then you were what think about it. Do

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00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 3: you want them to say you were a hilarious character

1108
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 3: actor that brought so much joy to people, or do

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00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 3: you want them to be like, eh, you were just

1110
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 3: like some d you.

1111
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: Know what I mean. Have you ever read Many, Many Lives,

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00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: Many Masters. I think it's the name of it. It's

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00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: above yeah, past lives and the thing that was it's

1114
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: a fast book. I have not read it in twenty years.

1115
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: But from what I remember this as this person was

1116
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: being taken through all these lives, it was like, you

1117
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: were a soldier, you died young, your soldier servants soldier,

1118
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 1: which most people were in world history. Soldiers are servants

1119
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: or sirs, and they died young because there was no

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00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: healthcare and their lives are incredibly difficult, or they were

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00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: at war. And that's the history of the world. That

1122
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: made more sense to me than like I knew this

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00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 1: One person who long story revealed to me that they

1124
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: found out that they used to be Marilyn Monroe, and

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00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 1: I was like, really.

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00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 3: They were like on Hollywood Boulevard they used to They

1127
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 3: revealed that that's what they used to do is dress

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00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 3: like this.

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00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: The person I had to get out of my life

1130
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: when I was a long time ago. But anyway, it was.

1131
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: It was it was one of those situations of like

1132
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 1: I was, yes, I was Cleopatra. I was Catherine the Great?

1133
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: Sure were you me too?

1134
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1135
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: But then there are people that are like that's because

1136
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 1: many spirits were in Katherine the Great and she went

1137
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: every and like, okay, okay, okay, all right, all right,

1138
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: I just want to cup a coffee and do my

1139
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: crossword puzzle? Can I get some a little bit of piece?

1140
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 2: Uh? Sam?

1141
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: Yes, rahs for the fifth time, we're done.

1142
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: We're kicking you out of the studio.

1143
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 1: No one can make me leave until I see a

1144
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 1: goat woman sheep man come through that door and drag

1145
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: me out. Well, you're drag me to hell.

1146
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 3: Back to hell, Sam, tell people you know where to

1147
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 3: find you and all of that stuff.

1148
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram at the Sam Pancake THG Sam Pancake

1149
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: on Twitter J Sampancake. You can follow me, I think

1150
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: publicly on Facebook and that's that's it. I'm on TikTok too.

1151
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: I'm Sam Pancake three on TikTok. I mean, I don't

1152
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: really do it much, but in.

1153
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 2: The TV shows and the yeah and.

1154
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: Coming back on a million little things on ABC this

1155
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: I don't think we come back in the fall, think

1156
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: we come back mid season. But yeah, season five of

1157
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 1: a million little things. Oh and now depending on when

1158
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,280
Speaker 1: this airs. I did. It was a part of a

1159
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: series of promos PSAs for Pride for June, for ABC, Hulu,

1160
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: Disney that'll be running, so keep an eye out for

1161
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: those if it's they said, I'll be running in June

1162
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: and beyond, so I don't know, keep an eye out.

1163
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: And my own podcast. I'm doing another season coming up soon.

1164
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: My Teenage Wasteland season I covered TV movies from the seventies,

1165
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: chiefly usually horror, but now I'm doing the I'm going

1166
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: to do a Teenage Wasteland season about like Sarah te

1167
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: Portrait of a teenage Alcoholic and down Portrait of a

1168
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: teenager Runaway and Go ask.

1169
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 2: Alice, and all the portraits of teenagers.

1170
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, there was a big thing in the seventies,

1171
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: these TV movies about teenagers going horribly wrong, which I'm

1172
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: sure your parents might remember since they were those teens

1173
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: in the seventies who went on.

1174
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,720
Speaker 3: They raised a team that went horribly wrong.

1175
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna say anything looking at you, Rocky the

1176
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: Dog's here too.

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00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 3: Thank you to Sam Pancake. Go back and listen to

1178
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 3: the two other times that he's been on. He was

1179
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 3: on very early on in the podcast, and.

1180
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 2: He's got stories.

1181
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 3: He say, He's seen some shit and always a delight

1182
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 3: to be around. I love him so so much. Hey,

1183
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 3: you subscribe to the show. Subscribe to it.

1184
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 2: Rate it five.

1185
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 3: Stars, leave a nice little review. Leave a ghost story

1186
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 3: in a five star review. Maybe I'll read it on

1187
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 3: the show. Send me listener episode submissions at ghosted by

1188
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 3: Raz at gmail dot com with the subject line listener episode.

1189
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 3: I'm on Instagram at raz Hernandez, TikTok and Twitter at

1190
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 3: It's raz Hernandez. I have been booking away at the

1191
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 3: next few weeks for the show.

1192
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 2: I got a psychic coming on soon.

1193
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 3: Ooh, it's been a minute since I've had one. And

1194
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 3: she's a good one and she comes highly recommended.

1195
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 2: So look out for that. I love you all, both

1196
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,959
Speaker 2: of them being in dead. But if I didn't ask

1197
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 2: you to haunt me, don't haunt me. Okay. Bye.

1198
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