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Speaker 3: Good morning Swim and welcome to the Nodunks podcast on

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Speaker 3: with all these awards, who do you like to you

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Speaker 2: Zion Williamson top five MVP finished this year. That's a

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Speaker 5: Zion's votes Like, you wouldn't have expected Devin Booker to

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Speaker 4: Okay, give me a Kawhi Leonard. I know he's obviously

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Speaker 4: That's enough though, I think he can.

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Speaker 3: My favorite award Most Improved Player? This one really when

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Speaker 3: there's so many guys that you could really talk yourself

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Speaker 5: Who do you like for MIP Gotta be somebody who's

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Speaker 5: Gonna be a lot better this season started to put

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Speaker 4: So I would take him. But yeah, serious, crap shoot here,

431
00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,879
Speaker 4: and I do think you you look at the East

432
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,080
Speaker 4: with the Indiana Pacers and Jalen Brunson with the Knicks.

433
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,800
Speaker 4: I think you could squeeze in an All Star appearance

434
00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,040
Speaker 4: from a guard there. You know, Historically a guard like

435
00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,240
Speaker 4: D'Angel Russell with the Brooklyn Nets kind of squeezes in there.

436
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,919
Speaker 4: Last year you had Darius Garland and Fred Van Vliet

437
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 4: from the Guard spots. You know, teams that are like

438
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 4: five six, seven, eight nine. So Halliburn could squeeze in there,

439
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,640
Speaker 4: or Jalen brun Said could squeeze in there.

440
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,440
Speaker 3: What about Keldon Johnson on the Spurs.

441
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:14,480
Speaker 2: He's on my long list.

442
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's hed it into his fourth season. He averaged

443
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,440
Speaker 3: last year seventeen six and two in seventy five games,

444
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 3: shot forty percent from deep. De Jonte Murray's been traded, obviously,

445
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,000
Speaker 3: somebody has to score on the Spurs. It's him or

446
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,120
Speaker 3: Vassell really probably, as I would assume Kelton John's gonna

447
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,640
Speaker 3: lead them in scoring. I don't see why he doesn't

448
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,920
Speaker 3: fill the vacuum of you know, Murray what average twenty

449
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 3: one points per game? I see Kelton Johnson doing that

450
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 3: quite easily on this roster that's not gonna probably be

451
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 3: winning a ton of games. That's the problem. Like you said, Trey,

452
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,399
Speaker 3: the way this award's been going, it's like, hey, have

453
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 3: you taken the leap to an all star level, even

454
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,640
Speaker 3: an all NBA level? I pro I don't think that's

455
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,879
Speaker 3: gonna be happening with Keldon Johnson, no matter the stats

456
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,399
Speaker 3: he puts up, because I don't think the Spurs are

457
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 3: gonna be that good. But numbers might be there and

458
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 3: people might be like impressed, like, whoa, who the hell's

459
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 3: this guy? Guys averaging you know, twenty two on great

460
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 3: shooting percentages. It's it's possible, but uh, I do like

461
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 3: the Halliburton a lot. I think that's where I would

462
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 3: be putting my money though, the guy that he used

463
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 3: to play with. Finally, Darren Fox. Now Fox is tough

464
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 3: for MIP because he actually has even in bad years

465
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 3: for him, like they're still pretty solid numbers. So like

466
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 3: the jump on paper is not going to be likely,

467
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 3: not going to be all that shocking. But when Haliburton

468
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 3: got traded to Indiana, it was very small sample size,

469
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 3: only eleven games. But Fox everage thirty points per game

470
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,400
Speaker 3: in that small window thirty eight and four playing there

471
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 3: with Sabonis sort of as the lead lead guard there

472
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 3: in Sacramento. I would love to see him be healthy

473
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 3: because he can't play freaking eighty games, like, let's like,

474
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 3: let's make that happen. He hasn't played sixty plus games

475
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 3: since his sophomore season, so that would be a start.

476
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 3: And uh, for whatever reason, this guy's a bad year

477
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 3: good year guy, bad year, then good year, bad year,

478
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 3: then good year, bad year than good year. Hey, he's

479
00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 3: due for a good year. And uh, he's only twenty four,

480
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 3: So I'm going with star Fox. I'll make that my

481
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 3: like dark horse pick for this would have to be

482
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 3: the Kings actually winning games too, and look they made

483
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 3: moves Hurder and Monk and obviously drafting Keegan Murray. Is

484
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 3: this the year the Kings are finally like flirting with

485
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 3: a playoff spot? If it is, then Fox will be

486
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 3: a big reason why. With Mike Brown coming in there,

487
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 3: as a new head coach. So I'll put some I'll

488
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 3: put some coin on him.

489
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 4: Good pick. It's more of a team award. I think

490
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 4: a few as to get most Improved. But it's like

491
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 4: Julius Randall and the chat there with the Knicks that

492
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 4: he could win Most Improved two times, you know, because

493
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 4: he went, he went and won it. Then he had

494
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 4: a bad year and so it's like the Fox. Not

495
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 4: a huge drop off for Dearn Fox like Julius Randall

496
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 4: did with New York, but he did drop off. Oh yeah,

497
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 4: so you know, if he can just put up better

498
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 4: numbers than that his peak year, sure, yeah.

499
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 3: Better numbers than his peak year, and the King's actually

500
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 3: having success and people like going, oh the Kings are

501
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 3: maybe good, then he gets maybe some consideration. I think

502
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 3: it's a long shot, but any other names is a

503
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 3: fun What about this guy?

504
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 5: For MIP, I had a dar and Fox as a

505
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 5: lot about this guy, have no doubt about it, Anthony Simons.

506
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 5: If he's able to continue his production that he had

507
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 5: when Damian Lillard wasn't playing with the Blazers last season,

508
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 5: if he's able to continue to play as well as

509
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 5: he did last year, now that now that Lillard is

510
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 5: going to be back and the Blazers look to be

511
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 5: a little bit of an improved team, he could be

512
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 5: in the mix. I think Tyrese Maxi could be in

513
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 5: the mix as well. Getting to play alongside Harden and

514
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 5: Embid this season we see all saw him take pretty

515
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 5: sizeable leap last year. Another one would be huge and

516
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 5: that could definitely put him in the mix.

517
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 3: I think anyone else you got on your.

518
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 4: List, I think people want Marvin Bagley to be that guy.

519
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 3: Wow, amazing.

520
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 4: I mean the Detroit Pistons know something that we don't.

521
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 4: They signed him to a three year deals at thirty

522
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 4: seven and a half million dollars twelve and a half.

523
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 4: He's got the runway, He's going to be able to

524
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 4: play for Dwayne Casey. There's a I mean, he's gonna

525
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 4: he's gonna get the ball a ton, I think because

526
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 4: he's gonna play with kid who is so willing to

527
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 4: pass if he's if he's able. But yeah, that seemed

528
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 4: to be an odd contract. Still seems like an odd contract.

529
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 4: Will they will he pay it off for the Pistons.

530
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 4: Big question.

531
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 3: The problem with like MIP prediction picks for like Bagley,

532
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,199
Speaker 3: say precious that you uh, maybe even Brandon Clark if

533
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 3: he's starting in place a Jaron Jackson Junior is, like

534
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 3: Trey said, like the way this award's gone, it's like

535
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 3: you have to go to All Star level. You have

536
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 3: to be like, none of those guys are gonna be there.

537
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 3: They might improve, Like if this was fifteen years ago,

538
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,719
Speaker 3: people like they looked at like whoa ten point per

539
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 3: game job, Like, damn, that's something even if they weren't

540
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 3: even like flirting with an All Star consideration, and it

541
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 3: would go to players like that, So it'd be tough. Yeah,

542
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 3: but uh, lots of names for this one. And yeah,

543
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 3: like Task said, you can they all have like crazy,

544
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,719
Speaker 3: crazy good odds. It's like a tough one to get

545
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 3: exactly it was picking.

546
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 2: Aaron Brooks in twenty ten.

547
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:04,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no doubt some only Aaron Brooks is averaging

548
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 5: twenty a game out of nowhere, it could happen.

549
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 3: Okay, let's go to a Rookie of the Year. Uh, Task,

550
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 3: get us started. Who's uh, who's your pick here at

551
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 3: the end of July to win ROI.

552
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 4: Well, the end of July started with In the beginning

553
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 4: of the month started with a Keegan Murray show at

554
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 4: Summer League. He was on a fire as a Sacramento

555
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 4: King pick there. They just decided to go with him

556
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 4: over Jade and Ivy, and they made he made Monte McNair,

557
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 4: who has made some very very good picks in the

558
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 4: front office with the Sacramento Kings, made him look real smart.

559
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 4: He looked great. I won't go with him, though, I

560
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 4: will go just straight to the top. Baby. I'm going

561
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 4: with Paula Bancaro pick number one in this thing, because

562
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 4: I think he is essentially going to be the Magic's offense.

563
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 4: He's going to be way more of the Magic's offense

564
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 4: than Chat Holmgren will be with Oka See or Keegan

565
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 4: Murray with the Kings. And I think K'll be good

566
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 4: at it too. It's not like you're just gonna get

567
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 4: the ball like last year. You know, a lot of

568
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 4: people picked Jalen Green. He struggled and then found his

569
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 4: way at the end of the season. I think Ben

570
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 4: Carroll comes in and is solid, and I think Cole

571
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 4: Anthony will defer to him. I think Franz Wagner will

572
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 4: defer to him. Gary harrisonk gonna take over remote Bamba

573
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 4: isn't gonna take over. So I saw him in Summer

574
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 4: League and thought, man, this guy before they yanked him

575
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 4: because they said that's you're too good for summer league

576
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 4: as a rookie son. You can sit now. He was amazing.

577
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 4: I thought he did it all out there. We're talking

578
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 4: about five by fives last week on a beach step

579
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 4: in podcast Beach Steping portion of our podcast. This guy

580
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 4: can do it, man, he can do it all. He

581
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 4: get pass as a big man, he could score and

582
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 4: the scoring part I think is where he trumps chet

583
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 4: Holmgrin for me. I think Chet is such a distributor.

584
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 4: Plus he's playing with Shae, who's gonna score. I think

585
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 4: benk Carroll has that advantage where he's not playing with

586
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 4: a great score. He doesn't have one like like Shae

587
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 4: with Chet and Check just he distributes a lot. He

588
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 4: he if you for whatever the minutes that I've watched him,

589
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 4: I don't think he's going to score enough. I think

590
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 4: he'll He'll do a lot of passing in the O case.

591
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: And make an impact on the defensive. He'll be great.

592
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 4: He'll be great for sure.

593
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 3: Can you name who led the Magic in scoring last year?

594
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 3: Points per game?

595
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 2: Is it Franz, no Terrence Ross, no bench.

596
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 3: There's like there's like eight guys on their team that

597
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 3: scored over ten points per game. But who'd you say

598
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 3: it's cool? Yeah, sixteen point three. So I'm with you

599
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 3: on Ben Carrol. That would be my pick here. They

600
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 3: ranked dead last in offensive rating the magic did twenty

601
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 3: eighth and true shooting percentage twenty eighth and three point percentage.

602
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 3: I mean, he just gets that bumped up a little

603
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 3: bit and the numbers are gonna be there. He's gonna

604
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 3: get the opportunity of the usage percentage. Yeah, I just

605
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: I don't I'm a little worried with this award that

606
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 3: like he comes out of the gate, has a great

607
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 3: first three weeks, like pretty solid for a rookie, and

608
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 3: everyone's like, Okay, it's over, Yep, that could happen. It

609
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 3: could happen, And that's saying like that's you know, I

610
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 3: like Ivy, I like Murray. I just think I think

611
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 3: it's set up for Ben Carro here. What about you, Trey.

612
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm Paolo Boncaro as well.

613
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna be like a legitimately good offensive player,

614
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 5: at least for a rookie at least for a young

615
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 5: guy pretty much right away, just like I think Chet

616
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 5: Holmgren's gonna be a legitimately good defensive player, but you

617
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 5: get a lot more shine when you're the offensive guy.

618
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 5: So I would go bon Caro, then Chet, and then

619
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 5: my third pick is probably Murray, just because he looks

620
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 5: ready to contribute. And you know, between Fox and some Bonus,

621
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 5: some decent setup guys there in Sacramento.

622
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 3: A good rule when trying to predict rookie of the

623
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 3: Year is just stick with one of the top five picks.

624
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 3: I know it's boring, but if you look back at

625
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 3: like the last eight or nine years, Scottie Barnes fourth,

626
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 3: Lamello third, John Morant's second, Luca third, Ben Simmons first.

627
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 3: Then we got the Brogden boy at thirty sixth. That

628
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: was the weird one. That was a whole beat of Brogden, Right,

629
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 3: Towns and Wiggins. They both went first overall. So generally

630
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: it's it's top four generally, but I think that's likely

631
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 3: here too. I think it's gonna I would agree, yeah,

632
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 3: coach of the year. We can talk teams here a

633
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 3: little bit. Trey get its started. Uh, this is all

634
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 3: you know, it's really I guess either who.

635
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 5: You think don't bet on this, please yeah, I please

636
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 5: don't bet on Coach of the Year in July.

637
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 3: Who you think is gonna have the best record is

638
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 3: one way to approach this or a big turnaround. So

639
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: which one is it? For me?

640
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 5: It's more of like a you're gonna be one of

641
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 5: the best teams in the league, more of a Monty

642
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 5: Williams like last year compared to a Tom Thibodeau the

643
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 5: season before.

644
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: So I actually think Emo Odoka is.

645
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 5: A solid favorite because either the Celtics pick up where

646
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 5: they left off having that huge second half run in

647
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 5: last season, going to the finals. It seems like they

648
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 5: know their identity now. They probably picked back up with

649
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 5: the addition of Brogden Danilo Gallinari, they'll be good again.

650
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 5: Or they somehow pull off a trade for Kevin Durant

651
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 5: and they're one of the best teams in the league

652
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 5: instantly Gel looked great. Those are both good ways to

653
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 5: win sure Coach of the Year, So I'm in on

654
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 5: that the off the board pick that I would go with,

655
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 5: though it has got to be tylu Clppers are going

656
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,479
Speaker 5: to have better health, They're very deep, they were already

657
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 5: a good defensive team last year. They've already got their identity.

658
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 5: We now they're going to probably start zubots and then

659
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 5: go and play small ball a million wings all over.

660
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 4: The place, and they're gonna have the m v P INQUR,

661
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 4: they likely have the MVP. I agree, though they're sneaky.

662
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, so yeah, I think Tyler's a really good coach,

663
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 5: and now that the Clippers actually have a pretty healthy

664
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 5: squad going into the season.

665
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see what happens in the next.

666
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 5: Four months, yeah, before things really get kicked off here.

667
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 2: But Tyler's looking good to me.

668
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good one. I don't want to add

669
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 4: too much to the coach of the Year talk, I'll

670
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 4: be honest. I mean, Monty Williams, you gave Brogden the

671
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 4: nickname of the Brogden Boy. I know, sometimes I guess,

672
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 4: or the president I guess that's gone probably, but Monty Williams,

673
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 4: I'm going to give him the Monty Man nickname. You

674
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 4: give him Brogden, the Brogden Boy. If Monty gets a

675
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 4: new nickname like the Monty Man, maybe that will cat

676
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 4: pulled him to the top.

677
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 3: There's no way Monty Williams is winning Coach of the

678
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 3: Year again, Like I can't believe he's one of the

679
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 3: favorite back I don't think so. And just like they

680
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: won six what they win last year, sixty four games,

681
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 3: Like you're telling me they're gonna be better than that.

682
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 3: They're gonna be one of the greatest teams in history.

683
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 3: Like that's when we're getting into I don't think that's gonna.

684
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 4: Happen, because then they did falter in the playoffs. I

685
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 4: wonder if Monty's chances get hurt. I just they faltered.

686
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe Monty is like one of the quote

687
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 3: unquote favorites for this. I just don't see it. Like

688
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 3: talk me into you know, like maybe it's Chris Finch

689
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 3: with the Wolves for crying out loud s Like if

690
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 3: that works, like the Twin Towers and Anthony Edwards and

691
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 3: all that. Okay, if they're top four, top three, okay,

692
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 3: that to hell of a jump. If Mike Brown can

693
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: do the impossible and get Sacramento an actual playoff spot

694
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: where like you know, they got forty seven wins or

695
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 3: something that's in play.

696
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 5: You can tell this as a July podcast because we

697
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 5: got we got a King up.

698
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: For most improved Player. Yeah, we've got a King up

699
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: for Rick in the year.

700
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 5: We've got the Kings coach, possibly a Coach of the

701
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 5: Year candidate this year. Optimism is that this fling good.

702
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 3: This is a difficult one. So we'll again flip it

703
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: back to everybody joining us here as they dropped their

704
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: Coach of the Year predictions there in the stream team

705
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: right now, we'll move on here to six Man of

706
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: the Year. Now. Tyler Hero blew the field out of

707
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: the water last season. I think he got ninety six

708
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: of the one hundred first place votes, and he's the

709
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 3: favorite to win this again, which I think is a

710
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 3: little interesting. Whether he's going to continue to come off

711
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 3: the bench, is even going to be on Miami, there's

712
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 3: that whole part. But Trey gets started. Where are you

713
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 3: going with six man?

714
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess this is a tough one.

715
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 5: I think Zach Lowe was kind of pitching the fact

716
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 5: that Tyler Hero likely will start the season, or at

717
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 5: least wouldn't be a surprise if he started for the

718
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 5: Heat there especially, We'll see, if you know, they if

719
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 5: they signed him to an extension, pay him a whole

720
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 5: bunch more money. Maybe they want to start him as well,

721
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 5: so understandable that he's the favorite, considering he won last

722
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 5: year was awesome last year. Of the top four and odds,

723
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 5: I think Jordan Poole is probably the best choice. It's

724
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 5: hard to win back to back, which I think kind

725
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 5: of rules out Hero as well. Poole's got a nice rep.

726
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 5: We just saw what he did in the finals. There's

727
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 5: gonna be times, no doubt when Steph Curry or Klay

728
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 5: Thompson misses time, which gives Pool a little bit more opportunity.

729
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 5: The only other name I would probably add to the

730
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 5: list is Cam Johnson, just because it wouldn't be surprising

731
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 5: to me to see him close some more games so

732
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 5: they get used to playing five out.

733
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: He finished third.

734
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 5: Last season the eight and stuff is still weird with Phoenix,

735
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 5: so maybe there's even more opportunity for Cam Johnson.

736
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: But I think Pool is probably the guy I would

737
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Speaker 2: choose here.

738
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 4: Okay, Tess, I like Jordan Poole too. I think he

739
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 4: won't be extended when we get into the Golden State

740
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 4: Warriors talk about Draymond Green potentially be extended, Andrew Wiggins

741
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 4: potentially be extended. I think Pool misses out and this

742
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 4: will be a contract year because of that, So I

743
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 4: think he's gonna come out and put up sim huge

744
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 4: numbers and he definitely will be coming off the bench.

745
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 4: The Tyler Hero thing as a starter, I think that's

746
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 4: that's an interesting one. If they start him beside Kyle Lowry,

747
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 4: I guess, and then they would send Max Strews to

748
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 4: the bench. But yeah, that would be interesting. I guess

749
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 4: just to get him, you know, to try and get

750
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 4: more out of him to be a bigger part of

751
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 4: the team. But he just seems like he screams sixth

752
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 4: man to me. But you know, they did lose bj Tucker,

753
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 4: so I guess that makes sense just to bolster their

754
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 4: starting lineup. But there have been guys who have one

755
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 4: back to back. It doesn't happen a lot. Yeahiams Williams

756
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 4: did it most recently, but other than that, it doesn't

757
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 4: happen all that much. So I don't want to pick

758
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 4: Tyler Hero because that is the most boring pick. But also,

759
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 4: like if you bet on Tyler Hero now, I guess

760
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 4: you just lose your money if he becomes a starter, right, like,

761
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 4: you don't you don't get you don't get refund, no

762
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 4: so don't bet Eric Spulster.

763
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: Every night, Benjim please, no work, no check.

764
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: What was pat Riley's like, you know, press conference after

765
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: the season, right, you're sort of like calling him out

766
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: a little bit, like you, I want to start or

767
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 3: play more. You gotta play defense on this team, and

768
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 3: that's one thing he doesn't do, so he was sort

769
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 3: of challenging him.

770
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 4: Yes, we'll see if they don't have a replacement for PJ. Tucker.

771
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 4: They play different positions, yeah, yeah, but yeah, that would

772
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 4: just mean who's their starting lineup? Would be lowering Hero

773
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 4: obviously Butler and at a Bio and then I don't

774
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 4: know who the other Caleb Martin or whichever Martin Grindy. Yeah,

775
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 4: I think it is Caleb that they re signed.

776
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: So how does Jimmy Butler's new hair affect his play

777
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 3: moving forward in the MVP race as a dark horse

778
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: Tyler herroes sixth Man of the Year opportunity. What do

779
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 3: you think, Trey?

780
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 5: Only time will tell you know, Jimmy Butler just wants

781
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 5: to work hard and be the man, and now he

782
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 5: wants to work hard and be the man while having

783
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 5: long hair. I think it makes him work even harder. Actually, Okay, yeah,

784
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 5: it's pulling off. We see people in stream team saying

785
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 5: bones Hyland possibly for a six Man of the Year

786
00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 5: win or sort of.

787
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 4: A responsibility with the Nuggets this season after they traded

788
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 4: Monte More's.

789
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 3: Logic says Tim Hardaway junior. Remember him, Yes, he plays

790
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 3: on the Dallas Mavericks. Still will he score fifty this year?

791
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 4: Well?

792
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 3: Maybe off the bench, maybe I'll look like a genius.

793
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 4: Uh.

794
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 3: Norm Powell. People are saying to go back to the Clippers.

795
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 3: They got a of course, a lot of talent. If

796
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 3: he's coming off the bench and putting up some.

797
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 4: Numbers, if he is, if he is name is out here,

798
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 4: Bobby portis one with the Milwaukee Bucks.

799
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 3: Okay, Bobby the sixth man of the Year generally hates

800
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 3: big man. I mean, I know Mantres Harrol won it,

801
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 3: and I guess, well, lamar Oden won. That was a

802
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 3: long long time ago now, but usually it's going to

803
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 3: a high score and Guard Clarkson obviously, Lou Crawford hero

804
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: last year. I think it's just tough, tough for a

805
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 3: big man. But Bobby, he puts up, puts up some

806
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: stats here.

807
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 4: And there's so many comments here for serge of Baka.

808
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 5: No, there's no way a surprise on serge O Bacca

809
00:36:58,800 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 5: right now.

810
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 4: I'm guessing I have been and following his Instagram stories.

811
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 4: He is very into his skincare routine. He's putting up

812
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 4: long reels about his skincare routine. He is literally like

813
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 4: taping banana peals to his face. Avocado Ryan what he

814
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 4: called appeals to his face.

815
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: That's what he does.

816
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 3: He looks great.

817
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 4: Also wear short shorts.

818
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 3: I'm surprised no one was going a little harder for

819
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 3: Malcolm Brockton joining the Boston Celtics and sounds like he's

820
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 3: going to come off the bench with Marcus Smart sort

821
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 3: of having that starting role.

822
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 4: You know, I have too much scoring, I think, so just.

823
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: Stats are going to be all that.

824
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay. You also Tray brought up with the

825
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 4: m v P. Now it's a sort of leaning towards

826
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 4: guys that don't have a lot of help around them.

827
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 4: You also want to go with a guy that doesn't

828
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 4: have a lot of help scoring when you're talking about

829
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 4: six Men of the Year. The Hero came off because

830
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 4: they needed a ball handler who could score, and scored

831
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 4: a ton last year. I think Broaden's numbers are going

832
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 4: to fall from what they were last year as a guard,

833
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 4: so Clarkson same thing.

834
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 3: Final one Defensive Player of the Year. Go Bear is

835
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 3: the favorite heading into this season. This guy's won three

836
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year awards? What if he won

837
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 3: a fourth? And I actually think it's set up sort

838
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 3: of nice for him here. If he takes a middle

839
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 3: of the pack defensive team in the Minnesota Timbwolves, he

840
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 3: makes him top five just because of his interior presence there,

841
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 3: and they make it all work. I see why he's

842
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 3: the favorite, and I could see him picking up a fourth,

843
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 3: which would tie him with Matumbo and Ben Wallace for

844
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 3: most of all time. But you think it's Rudy Tray

845
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 3: or do you think it's someone else.

846
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 5: I think it's Rudy exactly for what you're saying. I

847
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 5: think he's gonna make the Timberwolves instantly better. They're gonna

848
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 5: look like one of the ten best defensive teams out there,

849
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 5: and I think that go Beart out there will likely

850
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 5: negate some of Karl anthony Towns defensive shortcomings, and go

851
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 5: Beart will get credit even for that. So yeah, definitely

852
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 5: makes sense that he's the favorite so far, and he's

853
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 5: my favorite as well.

854
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, though the Wolves their defense last year, they

855
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: forced a ton of turnovers, but they were horrible. They

856
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 3: finished twenty seventh in defensive rebounding percentage. Rudy just playing

857
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 3: would like bump that up to at least middle of

858
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: the pack, if not higher. They also fouled way too much,

859
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 3: but he's pretty good at that just because of his

860
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 3: presence around the rim. And they were below league average

861
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 3: when it came to the opponent's effective field goal percentage.

862
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 3: So like, yeah, again, I think if the if the

863
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 3: Wolves are solid, they just got to be like top five,

864
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 3: top six something like that. And I think he's going

865
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 3: to get and deservedly so a ton of credit for it.

866
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: So I mean, I think that's where I'd be putting

867
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 3: my money on Rudy winning another I also think, like

868
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: with a guard winning it last year and smart, I'm

869
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 3: like ninety nine percent sure it's going back to a

870
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: big guy. So Rudy Robert Williams, you know, and be

871
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: maybe honest, Bam, He's going to a big guy. I'm

872
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 3: telling you right now. It's not gonna be another guard.

873
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, he Gobert's got to bring that defense up. I

874
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 4: think it's got to be pretty high, top four or five.

875
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 4: But yeah, the case is made for him there. He'll

876
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 4: also get credit not only for helping Karl Anthony Towns,

877
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 4: but for helping out D'Angelo Russell and the backcourt there.

878
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 4: That's what I worry a little bit about. Anthony Edwards,

879
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 4: very good guard defensively what he wants to be. Daniel

880
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 4: Russell not so much. He's got a lot to make

881
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 4: up for. J McDaniels are going to throw that a

882
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 4: third year player out there, probably a small ford a lot,

883
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 4: but I think Kyle Anderson's going to help out a lot.

884
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 4: Rudy will probably get credit for that, so I like him.

885
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 4: I like bam Adebayo as well to get his first potentially,

886
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 4: just because they're there every single year. It could be

887
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 4: a bit of a lifetime achievement award there for Bam

888
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 4: Bam and maybe if Rudy doesn't win it, maybe they

889
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 4: just don't want to give Rudy a fourth. It's just

890
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 4: a lot. It's just a lot. It's a lot of awards.

891
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 5: I'm not saying give him a fourth, then he's in

892
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 5: contention for a fifth. Most all the time, Yeah, most

893
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 5: of all time. I mean, yeah, there's got to carefully

894
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 5: time that number four.

895
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 3: And I think it's not crazy to see time Lord

896
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 3: winning this too, because if he's healthy and he's playing.

897
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 3: I mean, there was an argument last year, was Marcus

898
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 3: mart really the best defender on the Celtics p beople

899
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 3: like it might be Robert Williams when he's out there

900
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 3: and like I mean doing rudy like things. Right, he

901
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: let the league in defensive rating. He's second in blocks

902
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 3: per game at two point two, just behind your and

903
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 3: Jackson Jr. I think if he's healthy and plays an

904
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: entire season and the Celtics are the defense that we

905
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: saw in the second half of the year and the playoffs, then.

906
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 4: I want to be weird.

907
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 3: Though you give it to it would be strange. One

908
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 3: are different guys that never happened, has it where it's

909
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,479
Speaker 3: like some guy on the two guys on the same team.

910
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 5: I got it back to back then, Sorry, I'm still

911
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 5: looking up if a coach has ever won back.

912
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I doubt it's happened. So, yeah, you're right.

913
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 4: So it's a little brook Lopez yis did a compo situation.

914
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 3: Bus right, very nice? Uh, there it is there's our

915
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 3: six Awards, our dumb early, stupid, early, way too early

916
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 3: NBA Awards of Predictions. Let us know who you guys think,

917
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 3: Like I said, both your favorite and maybe just a

918
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: crazy shot in the dark. Let us know in the

919
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 3: comments right now below the video or tweet him in

920
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: at no dunk sinc. That's I n C. On the end,

921
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 3: we're gonna tear first break when we come down, up

922
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 3: down report, talk about Katie, Draymond Green, a bunch of

923
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: jerseys and lot more. Don't go anywhere back in the

924
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 3: classic factory. Let's have a little fun in the up

925
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 3: down report Thumbs upper, thumbs down when it comes to

926
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 3: these topics. All right, on Monday, we jen chomps. They

927
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 3: let the world know that the Celtics offered Brooklyn, Jalen Brown,

928
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 3: Derek White, and a draft pick for Kevin Durant. The

929
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 3: Nets declined, encountered by asking for Brown, Marcus Smart dpoy,

930
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 3: another rotation player, and multiple picks in exchange for Katie.

931
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 3: The Celtics declined for now. Naturally, this Katie Celtics bomb

932
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: gave us what a good week of television segments and

933
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 3: deep dive posts and podcasts, including our own where Tass

934
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: and I talked in great detail about this possibility of

935
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 3: Katie landing on the Celtics. So I really wanted to

936
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 3: hear from Trey Kirby up or down on the likelihood

937
00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 3: I guess of the Celtics trading for Kevin durantlehood.

938
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 5: A likelihood not would I want to do it? Because

939
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 5: I would want to do it, Okay, Oh, I would

940
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 5: want to do it. It hurt a lot of window talk

941
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 5: these past couple of weeks. How big of that window?

942
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 5: How long is that window? Which would you prefer a

943
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 5: long window or a big window, a lot of window,

944
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 5: because right now the Celtics have a long window.

945
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: They've had a long window.

946
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, they've had a long window open for five seasons

947
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 5: and they have one finals appearance to show for it.

948
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 5: They made multiple conference finals, but that doesn't get you anything.

949
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 5: It doesn't even get you a chance to win the title.

950
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 5: So I personally would want a huge window. And I

951
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 5: think Kevin Durant can open that window a lot bigger

952
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 5: than Jalen Brown can because his arms are much longer.

953
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think that the Celtics should do it.

954
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 5: Kevin Durant is a lot better than Jalen Brown, and

955
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 5: I think people are kind of underrating Kevin Durant in

956
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 5: comparison to Jalen Brown because we still have the hope

957
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 5: for Jalen Brown to turn into an even better player,

958
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 5: despite the fact he's really good already. So I think

959
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 5: they should do it. I think they instill become the

960
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 5: best team in the league. A team built around Tatum

961
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 5: and Durant would be basically on stop puppable. Everybody wants

962
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 5: to have a big wing who can handle the ball

963
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 5: and shoot from outside. They would have too. Nobody else would.

964
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 5: I guess you would maybe argue the Clippers, but Paul

965
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 5: George is more of a three and.

966
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 2: D guy to me.

967
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 3: Zingers.

968
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: That being said, will it happen?

969
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 5: I doubt it because the Celtics always talk about trading

970
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 5: for people and they never actually do it. So I

971
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 5: think we're going to be talking about Kevin Durant being

972
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 5: traded for a long long time, maybe even into September.

973
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 5: At this point, it's crazy to think not too long

974
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 5: ago Jase Keats did an emergency podcast for Kevin Durant

975
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 5: trade rumors.

976
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: Feels like one hundred years ago.

977
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 5: At this point, the rumors will not stop because the

978
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 5: packages have to be massive. But if I were the Celtics,

979
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 5: I would do it because I would actually want to

980
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 5: win the title instead of, you know, talking about maybe

981
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 5: winning the title in the future.

982
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 4: What I want to talk about for a long long

983
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 4: time is whether it's a long window or a wide

984
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 4: open window. You know what I mean in terms of

985
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 4: a team's potential to win long window, it's a it's

986
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 4: open or close? To me? Oh right, right, But it's

987
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 4: hard to say, like a how how open how well

988
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 4: a window? It's it's open, It's can always.

989
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 3: Open and close. I was going to say, but that's

990
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 3: not true. Some some windows you can open.

991
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 4: Next, we were just in Vegas.

992
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, good point. Hotel room windows.

993
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want don't want people jumping out of

994
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 4: the windows. No, so uh I think there, Yeah, their

995
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 4: window is wide open right now. It's long no matter

996
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 4: how you look at it. It would be hard to

997
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 4: for for me in the front office if I was

998
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 4: up with Brad and we're talking about this and we

999
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 4: had this discussion. I don't know why I'm in the

1000
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 4: front office, but anyways, Uh, I think it's hard for

1001
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 4: for Brad Stevens to even though they talk about it

1002
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 4: a lot. I think it would be hard to just

1003
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 4: pull the trigger on this just just because of the chemistry.

1004
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 4: I just wonder how it affects the locker room. I mean,

1005
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 4: Katie's obviously, you know, gone to another team and won

1006
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 4: a championship. But for us, yes, it would be extremely

1007
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 4: interesting to talk about Kevin Durant going to a team

1008
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 4: that just beat him again and what it would do

1009
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 4: to the Celtics locker room. I mean they they may

1010
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 4: upgrades already to a team that went to the NBA Finals.

1011
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 4: Malcolm Brogden is an upgrade. He was there with the

1012
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 4: anesthetic goobot being a really good support player. I think

1013
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 4: with the Milwaukee Bucks before he started bouncing around the

1014
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 4: league could do a lot of good things. Gallinari less so,

1015
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 4: but I want to see that team. I want to

1016
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 4: see what they do rather than this this trade for

1017
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 4: a star and see what.

1018
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 3: Happens and flipping it to the net side of things here.

1019
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 3: If this is a real possibility, do you love the

1020
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 3: idea of getting Jalen Brown as the key piece if

1021
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: you are moving off Kevin Durant and that is the

1022
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: direction of your franchise, Like, do you like Jalen Brown

1023
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 3: more than you know a Siakam or more than you

1024
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 3: know even I guess Scotty Barnes. It feels like he's

1025
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: off the table there in Toronto, any of these other

1026
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 3: big names in some of these rumor deals. What do

1027
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 3: you think.

1028
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 5: I guess I would go Barnes over Brown, but Brown

1029
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 5: over Siakam just based on ages, right, you know, Scottie Barnes,

1030
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 5: rookie of the year, only going to get better. We

1031
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 5: have to assume Jalen Brown. I assume he's going to

1032
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 5: get better as well. He's kind of starting the beginning

1033
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 5: of his prime, whereas Siakama is right in the midst

1034
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 5: of it right now.

1035
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

1036
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 5: I kind of feel like Jalen Brown kind of splits

1037
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 5: the difference between those two. A quality player right now

1038
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 5: who still has the potential to get even better.

1039
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 3: We we'll see. Because you're right, we're gonna be talking

1040
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 3: about this for months.

1041
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 4: Ye yeah, because everyone's on vacation, they're not making trades. Probably,

1042
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 4: you're right, it's two freaking early.

1043
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 3: It's July, so Lie's over.

1044
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 4: You're right, it's over, but it's still July, so we're

1045
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 4: close to the trade.

1046
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 3: You're saying, no, no, we still got on August. August

1047
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 3: is really when everybody's on vacation in the NBA now,

1048
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: especially these executives, they haven't had a real vacation because

1049
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 3: of COVID NBA seasons in like two years, three years.

1050
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 3: It's been a lot of time since you've had a

1051
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 3: normal break. You think about it.

1052
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 4: So you're saying Sean Marks and Danny Age as the

1053
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 4: front of the front offices that could trade Durant or

1054
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 4: Donovan Mitchell. They asked for the world and then when

1055
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 4: they didn't get it, they said, all right, I'm going

1056
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 4: on vacation.

1057
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 3: You're sending an email to either of those guys right now.

1058
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 3: You're getting out office returns.

1059
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 4: Danny does an email, No.

1060
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 3: Way, you gotta call him.

1061
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta call him.

1062
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: Oh if he if he's overseas, like who knows that

1063
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 3: he's getting the like buying the pass for that data data,

1064
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 3: it's Danny data all right. Next one, Raymond Green. Listen

1065
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 3: to this guys, he wants and believes he is deserving

1066
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 3: of a four year max contract extension. According to Anthony

1067
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 3: Slater and Marcus Thompson, the second of the Athletic Okay,

1068
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: Draymond is eligible for the extension on August third, which

1069
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 3: is like days from now, but the Warriors currently have

1070
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 3: no plans to offer Green the max extension, according to reports,

1071
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 3: again from Slater and Thompson. The second so upper down

1072
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 3: to as you get a start here on Draymond Green

1073
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 3: deserving a MAX contract extension, that's keyword here, Okay, upper down.

1074
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 4: Draymond Green would be getting paid eight ton until he's

1075
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 4: thirty seven years of age in a vacuum. Doesn't look good.

1076
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 4: Just in a vacuum, that number may not be worth it.

1077
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 4: We just want what happened where you know, he was

1078
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 4: a liability on offense a lot of the time during

1079
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 4: the postseason. But they sain't a vacuum. I think if

1080
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 4: you look at the Warriors and them being led by

1081
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 4: Steph Curry, which he ain't stop, He ain't slowing down

1082
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 4: right now, the window is still long or wide open,

1083
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 4: no matter how you look at it. I think if

1084
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 4: they were to cheap out Andre Mungreen, I think that

1085
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 4: could affect how things happened with you know, trickle down

1086
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 4: the roster, not only Steph, Clay Wiggins, all those guys.

1087
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 4: I don't think you can cheap out on Dre Mungreen,

1088
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 4: I think you pay him, and yeah, it's worth it

1089
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 4: because they win a freaking championship, they will continue to

1090
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 4: be up there, and so you don't mess with that.

1091
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 4: Steph recently said, you know, I want Dre and Clay

1092
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 4: to be with me until the end. What he's done

1093
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 4: for the franchise, what he's done, you know, for a

1094
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 4: freaking decade. Yeah, you can't go back on not that

1095
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 4: they would go back against their word, but you have

1096
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 4: to just fulfill that. And I don't think they can

1097
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 4: cheap out on not only Dre Wiggins Pool. They didn't

1098
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 4: cheap out on Looney. They did cheap out somewhat for

1099
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 4: the first time in their history on Gary Payton the

1100
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 4: Second and Otto Porter. But those guys, their roles can

1101
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 4: be filled by Kaminga and Moses Moody and James Wiseman.

1102
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 4: So you don't cheap out on any of those other guys.

1103
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 4: You can't, and it will be paid off tenfold, and

1104
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 4: I think it already has. So when it comes down

1105
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 4: to it, you don't cheap out on Clay when his

1106
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 4: contract ends in two years, either on anybody. They have

1107
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 4: done their roles. You know they've done it to a

1108
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 4: degree that we haven't seen in the NBA. So I

1109
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 4: think this is such an incredible opportunity. How many teams

1110
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 4: have their top three guys stay with their whole or

1111
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 4: stay with their teams the entire careers.

1112
00:50:55,680 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 3: Spurs close to it, Tony Parker, despite that, they want

1113
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 3: to be the Spurs.

1114
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 4: Weird, that is a weird one and they want to

1115
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 4: be the Spurs. So yeah, so yeah, well, I guess, yeah,

1116
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 4: Kui doesn't, he doesn't fit. I guess the Spurs story

1117
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 4: arc there. I guess it's man U, Tony and Tim. Yeah,

1118
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 4: Tony would love the jump Man logo, love Michael Jordans,

1119
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,479
Speaker 4: so he went to Charlotte There at the end, I don't,

1120
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 4: I don't. I would just hope for them that this

1121
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 4: is one of those rare situations that Steph clay and

1122
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 4: draced it.

1123
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 3: But at a certain point, it's gonna cost you an

1124
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 3: insane amount of money.

1125
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 4: It's been paid off, I mean, I think, I mean,

1126
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 4: I don't know the books, but it feels like it's

1127
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 4: been paid off with how much they've won. And yeah,

1128
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 4: they're getting near the four hundred million dollar annual total

1129
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 4: fee when it comes to salaries plus luxury text they're

1130
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 4: getting close to it. But they did cheap out a

1131
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 4: little bit. Cheap out that's a very loose term. But

1132
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 4: on Gary pat the second and Otto Porter, they didn't

1133
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 4: pay them right because that goes I mean, they just

1134
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,439
Speaker 4: paid Kelly Ubre eighty million dollars to play one year

1135
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 4: for them. It was eighty million bucks for Kelly Oubray.

1136
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 4: I don't think they cheap out on Dremond Gree. I

1137
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 4: don't think they do.

1138
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 3: Okay, he is set to make about twenty six million

1139
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 3: this upcoming season. Draymond is he's due twenty seven point

1140
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 3: five million in twenty three twenty four, but it's player option,

1141
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 3: uh so he can decline it and become a free

1142
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 3: agent next summer. So this max extension here, you'd be

1143
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 3: looking at about a four year, one hundred and thirty

1144
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 3: eight and a half million dollars deal here, and task

1145
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 3: said how much he'd be making there in his last year.

1146
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 3: But it's it's difficult with Draymond. You know, he's so

1147
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 3: important to this franchise, but also who else is offering

1148
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 3: him a max contract? Is where I get at too,

1149
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 3: So like it's fair, I mean, you want to keep

1150
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 3: your guys happy. And look, I think the bottom line

1151
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 3: is if Steph Curry says pay that guy I want him,

1152
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 3: then you almost have to. I mean, I don't know

1153
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 3: how you could get out of that with what Curry's

1154
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 3: done to your franchise and what he's meant and all that,

1155
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 3: and he's saying similar things to that.

1156
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 4: So I agreed, and they get a part of Draymond's

1157
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 4: podcast too.

1158
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 2: All of the numbers with the ad revenue.

1159
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 3: Maybe, yeah, Trey, what do you do with Draymond Green?

1160
00:52:59,800 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 4: Here?

1161
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 2: Is that tricky one? Yeah, very tricky.

1162
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 5: He certainly deserves, no doubt about it. Four Championships, Defensive

1163
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 5: Player of the Year, multiple time All Star. I mean,

1164
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 5: he's earned the right to get paid every single dollar

1165
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 5: that the Warriors could possibly pay him.

1166
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 2: But like you're saying, at the.

1167
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 5: End of his contract, he ain't gonna be worth thirty

1168
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 5: something million dollars. It's interesting you compare him to the Spurs.

1169
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 5: At the end of Tim Duncan's career. He was playing

1170
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 5: for like a million points something per season. He was

1171
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 5: taking discounts right so that they could keep the team

1172
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 5: together and keep them better. It's a little bit unfair

1173
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 5: to players. I think that like a homegrown superstar like

1174
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 5: Draymond Green should have to take a haircut at the

1175
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 5: end of his year. But as John Hollinger explained to

1176
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 5: The Athletic recently, the annual numbers on contracts are going

1177
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 5: to kind of be going down over the course of

1178
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 5: time with these extensions that are going to be getting signed.

1179
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think I would do it to.

1180
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 2: Keep Draymond around.

1181
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 5: I would pay him a max, even if it's going

1182
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 5: to be too many years, even if it's gonna be

1183
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 5: too much money, just because it sends a great vibe.

1184
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 5: You don't want to lose Draymond, because Draymond's still really good.

1185
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 5: Before he got hurt last season, the Warriors were one

1186
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 5: of the two or three best defensive teams in the league.

1187
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 2: He makes Steph.

1188
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 5: Curry better on offense, which is weird to say, but

1189
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 5: the connection they have, the two man game that they've

1190
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 5: been able to develop over the course of their careers, Like,

1191
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 5: Draymond gets Steph the easiest shots that Steph takes when

1192
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 5: he's on the court. So he's certainly still a plus player,

1193
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 5: and he's obviously right after Steph the second most important

1194
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 5: guy for the Warriors, so pay him and regret it

1195
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 5: at the end.

1196
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 3: Well, Miles Brown tweeted the other day and I screen

1197
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 3: grabbed it because it made me laugh. He said, Draymond

1198
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 3: wants tomorrow's price to be for yesterday's work, and nah,

1199
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 3: you just mailed in almost three seasons and move like

1200
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 3: a mummy. You better get those podcast numbers up again.

1201
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 3: That's at m Brown on Twitter's got some fire NBA takes.

1202
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 3: But there's some truth to that of like, yeah, me,

1203
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 3: pay me prices that I'm not gonna be worth for

1204
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 3: what I did in years past and being these championships,

1205
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 3: and there's a fin line there. I think you can

1206
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 3: go overboard, especially when you get into their luxury tax

1207
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 3: and they have all these extensions. So if you were

1208
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 3: to rank the importance of extensions tasks with Draymond Green,

1209
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 3: Andrew Wiggins, Jordan Poole and then Klay Thompson, you know,

1210
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 3: eligible coming up for extension, how would you rank them

1211
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 3: in order of importance to Joe lacub and the Warriors

1212
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 3: organization right now to win a title.

1213
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 4: Of course, it is funny just seeing the article there

1214
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 4: from Marcus Thompson and Anthony Slater on the athletic. I was

1215
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 4: just kind of taken aback, just thinking, well, these Warriors

1216
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 4: have problems, they have issues with extending guys, but it

1217
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 4: is something that they have to be somewhat concerned with.

1218
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 4: And I think the first one that you should be

1219
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 4: concerned with is Andrew Wiggins. Actually, yeah, because he's only

1220
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 4: paid for one more year and he just does things

1221
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 4: that other guys can't do on the roster. It's just

1222
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 4: you know, the defense, and he was literally the second

1223
00:55:55,680 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 4: best player for the playoff run, so he's first. Clay

1224
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 4: has signed for a couple of years, so I think

1225
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 4: I would throw him at the bottom of this list.

1226
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 4: But then it's probably Draymond Green and Jordan Poole. I

1227
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 4: mean Dred and Jordan. I think both very important. And

1228
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 4: I guess somebody's gonna pay Jordan Poole a ton of money,

1229
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 4: so that's one that they can wait for because he's

1230
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:22,760
Speaker 4: restricted and just match. But I don't know, it seems like, yeah,

1231
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 4: corporate charity not a good thing, Like you don't just

1232
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 4: know Draymond Green should take every dollar. But at the

1233
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 4: same time, you kind of just want to keep him happy.

1234
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 4: It's a relationship thing, you know, so.

1235
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 3: That They said it in their article, which was a

1236
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 3: great line from Slater and Thompson. Pay the legends risk

1237
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 3: losing the youth. Pay the youth, risk alienating the legends.

1238
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 3: Pay nobody, and you create a tension filled locker room

1239
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 3: for Steve Kerr to steer. Yeah, that's a tough decision.

1240
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 3: I Am not going to sit here and go boo hoo.

1241
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 3: For the Warriors, though, oh my god, they have to

1242
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 3: make decisions because all their guys are amazing and they

1243
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 3: win championships. It's like, uh, that's a great problem. And

1244
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 3: they have an they have a front office that has,

1245
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 3: you know, put up a lot of money for this

1246
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 3: team to win it time every year. But now do

1247
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 3: they want to put up more? Where do they draw

1248
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 3: the line? At some point you have to.

1249
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they drew a little one with Gary Payton

1250
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 4: second and Auto Porter as well. They got contracts there

1251
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 4: with Portland and Toronto respectively. That Tim Duncan thing is

1252
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 4: really interesting. I mean, we just saw James Harden take

1253
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 4: a pay cut. I know he's still getting paid in

1254
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 4: the thirty millions range for two seasons. That Tim Duncan

1255
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 4: one is really interesting. But this is an era that's

1256
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 4: even different than Tim Duncan seven eight years ago. Player

1257
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 4: empowerment is escalated and that's a good thing, Imo. Instead

1258
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 4: of the front offices making every single dollar, it should

1259
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 4: go to the players. Those are the people who make

1260
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 4: this thing run. So yeah, take every single doll. Maybe

1261
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 4: he'll take a tiny piic. It's not maybe he will,

1262
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 4: it's not gonna be a big one though.

1263
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. In Golden State, their front office, they usually only

1264
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 3: extend with one year remaining, so this would sort of

1265
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 3: be if they were to extend Draymond right now. They

1266
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 3: generally don't do that, but man, it's Draymond Green, and

1267
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 3: it's like, like I could talk myself into either of

1268
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 3: these happening where they don't come to an extension right now,

1269
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 3: even though he wants one and he's deserving. He thinks

1270
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 3: of a max. It's like he's like, well, f you,

1271
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna ball out here, show you all in the

1272
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 3: rest of the league that I'm still the best defensive player,

1273
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 3: I'm still so important. And then that's good because it

1274
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 3: helps your chances of winning a title. But then the

1275
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 3: opposite could be true, where Draymond all he does is

1276
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 3: complain all season long about like not getting this extension

1277
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 3: and like he sort of like pouts like I couldn't

1278
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 3: you see either of those two happening. And he's just

1279
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Speaker 3: complaining on a podcast like I could be great for

1280
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 3: some podcast numbers. For sure, it probably would. It probably would.

1281
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 3: So it's a sticky situation here, but I gotta I mean,

1282
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 3: I think it's again, it's a good problem to have. Oh,

1283
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 3: or do we gotta pay Pool a lot? Do we

1284
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 3: gotta pay Clay? And stuff?

1285
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 4: It went for the the end of the season they

1286
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 4: won the championship, Wiggans and Pool were congratulating each other

1287
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 4: on Instagram saying, whoa, you're gonna get a bag. No,

1288
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 4: you're gonna get it back. So those two dudes, and

1289
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 4: I thought those were really the only extensions that were

1290
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 4: up for debate. But then yeah, Drey and Clay enter

1291
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 4: the midd right there. But yeah, they still have an

1292
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 4: extra year, so I don't think it happens. And I

1293
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 4: think they say to Draymond, you know, we'll do it

1294
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 4: next year and don't talk about it on the podcast,

1295
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 4: and I think he'll be cool with that. I mean,

1296
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 4: it's just like they The thing is, they have set

1297
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 4: a precedent, even Steph waited until one year left before

1298
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 4: he got his extension and then Steph Right, So I

1299
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 4: don't think they signed him this offseason.

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00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,959
Speaker 3: Again, I go back to multiple sources said Corey would

1301
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 3: not be happy if the Warriors lost Green because the

1302
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 3: team didn't want to pay him. Yeah, so of course

1303
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 3: Curry wants to keep this cord together, keep him, Draymond

1304
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 3: and Clay. I mean it's they're the one that's always

1305
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 3: winning the championship, whether Katie is there or not.

1306
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 4: And we didn't even mention his name as a potential

1307
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 4: Defensive Player of the Year winner. He's probably up there

1308
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 4: as well. He's only one one.

1309
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, if Draymond's coming and pissed off with a chip

1310
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 3: on his shoulder, then I really like his chances. Yeah.

1311
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 4: I said they were leaders.

1312
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 2: They were awesome on the defense, yep, until he went

1313
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: down next one.

1314
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Speaker 3: According to Schaum's, the Hornets are considering a reunion with

1315
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 3: former franchise Cornerstone Kemba Walker. Walker played in thirty seven

1316
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 3: games last season for the Knicks. He average about eleven

1317
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 3: and three. The number nine pick of the twenty eleven draft,

1318
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 3: played eight seasons for Charlotte and is the franchisees all

1319
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Speaker 3: time leading scorer. Do you know who's second time?

1320
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Speaker 4: Gerald Wallace?

1321
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so all time check myself here,

1322
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 3: but I'm pretty sure I know who it is. Yeah,

1323
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 3: Del Curry, Yeah, I believe it's Del Curry.

1324
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 4: There you go, points points?

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Speaker 3: Are you up or down? Trey on the Hornets bringing

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Speaker 3: back Kemba Walker?

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Speaker 5: Sure, sure, man, I still feel dumb. I still got

1328
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 5: a little bit of Kemba Walker hope out there, and

1329
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 5: like looking at the Hornets, they need a backup point guard.

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Speaker 5: Ish Smith was around for a little bit, but it's

1331
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 5: basically Ben LaMelo and Terry Rozier handling the d They

1332
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 5: could use somebody to stop up some minutes. And if

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Speaker 5: you're not expecting a.

1334
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 2: Lot from Kemba Walker, that's probably the right way to.

1335
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 5: Go about things at this point. The knee was just

1336
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 5: ruined after his Boston stint. Basically didn't work out in

1337
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 5: New York. But you know, some decent vibes. I think

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Speaker 5: it would a nice vibes move for the Hornets to

1339
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 5: bring Kemba Walker back, and maybe being back where he

1340
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 5: saw his most success would rejuvenate his career to at

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Speaker 5: least make him into a solid backup point guard kind

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Speaker 5: of role player.

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Speaker 4: I agree, because this team, unfortunately isn't going to fulfill

1344
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 4: the projection the expectations that we had. There's not We thought,

1345
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 4: maybe they go into this offseason get better. It hasn't happened.

1346
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 4: And Kemba Walker would be good for the locker room.

1347
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 4: The performance would probably be a little Tony Parker esque

1348
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 4: at the end of his career with the Charlotte Hornets.

1349
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 4: It's not going to be incredible, but they need a

1350
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 4: backup point guard. Good for the locker room, which you

1351
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 4: won't hurt, but they're gonna be bad defensively, and that's

1352
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 4: what I would want from a backup point guard, a

1353
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 4: little bit more tenacity. But they need one.

1354
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Speaker 2: They need one.

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Speaker 4: He's a lifetime Hornet. Bring him in.

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Speaker 3: Okay, he's on the pistons right now, isn't he? Is

1357
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 3: that true?

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Speaker 5: I was surprised to see that Isaiah Thomas was a

1359
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 5: backup point guard for the Charlotte Hornets as well last year.

1360
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Speaker 5: So right, yeah, give Kemba. Might as well give kemball

1361
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 5: run sure, I think all.

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Speaker 3: Right, if those knees can hold up, he can still score. Okay,

1363
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 3: final one here, we've got a bunch of new jerseys

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01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 3: to weigh in on, so we're just gonna lump them

1365
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 3: all together. Uh, you know, like we're the Presidents of

1366
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Speaker 3: the United Marion.

1367
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 4: What do they call him?

1368
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: You got it?

1369
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 3: Presidents the United States of America? Lump Okay, So here

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Speaker 3: we go. The Pistons unveiled new Classic edition uniforms. Call

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01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 3: him new, but they're old. Their replica of the road

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01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 3: unis the Pistons down from ninety six to two thousand

1373
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 3: and Onile Grand Hill days, Jerry Stackhouse days. So you

1374
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 3: got the return of the Teal. We're showing you here

1375
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 3: on YouTube Ivy rocking the Horse Teal. Pistons up next,

1376
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 3: got the Spurs with some new Statement Edition uniforms featuring

1377
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 3: the team's iconic silver and black of course, but these

1378
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 3: recently introduced Texas and sat X secondary logos.

1379
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 4: It says sat X on the jersey. If you're along

1380
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 4: with us here on YouTube, you see it. But if

1381
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 4: you're listening you may be confused.

1382
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 3: What is sat X San Antonio, Texas? Yeah, and lastly,

1383
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 3: the Bucks unveiled refreshed fear the Deer Statement Edition uniforms.

1384
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 3: Got the cream antlers running up the sides of the

1385
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 3: Black Jersey and short. So task it started. I mean

1386
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,439
Speaker 3: up or down on the piston, spurs and bucks New

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01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 3: Jersey and you can tackle them one by one if

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01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 3: you want.

1389
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 4: But overall of since I just briefly talked about the spurs,

1390
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 4: to me, that looks like a cryptocurrency symbol right with

1391
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 4: the in there. I don't like it. What is it?

1392
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 4: San Antonio, Texas?

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01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 2: I guess that cool? That was cool.

1394
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 4: We were through there for a second.

1395
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 3: So you're gonna pick up some s a t X

1396
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 3: on coin base a little bit.

1397
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's probably. It's probably.

1398
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 2: I heard it's a security.

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01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna buy a low Hello. Listen the side panels

1400
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 4: on both the shows that they are cool. Now do

1401
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 4: you care about the side panels like I think they do?

1402
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 4: You notice them with arms, arms hanging down on the sides.

1403
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 4: I think we've had this. You don't. I don't really

1404
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 4: notice them. I guess when it comes to the.

1405
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 5: Shorts, this reminds me of Georgetown circa Allen Iverson era,

1406
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 5: when they had like the Kent cloth on the side

1407
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 5: panels of their uniforms. So for that reason, I am.

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01:04:56,080 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 2: Up on these at that looks like a like a

1409
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 2: G League franchise.

1410
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 4: To me, Yeah, I could see that as well. It's

1411
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 4: a mistake. But the side paneling is I love the shorts.

1412
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I could are awesome essay.

1413
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I've just also I've never seen it.

1414
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 4: This is new. This is brand new.

1415
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 3: I know, I know, but like I mean, in do

1416
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 3: people from San Antonio? Do people from Texas? I know,

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01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 3: of course it's essay comma t Actually I get that,

1418
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 3: but I've never seen it without the comma.

1419
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 2: You would like to see a comma. Maybe the Pistons

1420
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 2: did it a while ago. They threw a comma.

1421
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 3: I like punctuation, right right right.

1422
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 5: It's got Michelle Beadle on the phone again. She says

1423
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 5: about essay and if she calls.

1424
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 3: That essay, yeah, I'm down on those. But everything else

1425
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 3: I like it. But I just wish you didn't have

1426
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:44,959
Speaker 3: those four letters on it in that order.

1427
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 4: Is that a different material of material on the side panels.

1428
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 3: It looks And what about the TL Trey Are you

1429
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 3: a fan or not? Because I feel like this one.

1430
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 3: People are conflicted on this. People are saying everybody hated

1431
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 3: these jerseys at the time. They were ugly at the time,

1432
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 3: and now you're just like playing the nostalgia factor and

1433
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 3: you and you think you like them. Well, other people say,

1434
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,439
Speaker 3: look at these, these look pretty fresh. What do you think.

1435
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1436
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 5: I was actually a little surprised that there was such

1437
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:17,959
Speaker 5: a polarizing response to these, because I kind of thought

1438
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 5: if you bring anything back from twenty years ago, people

1439
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 5: are gonna be all over it. Maybe the fact that

1440
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 5: they made the numbers on the back as big as

1441
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 5: the player's backs was a problem. I personally do think

1442
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 5: these are trash jerseys, but I see the appeal to

1443
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 5: people bringing back the teal.

1444
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 3: Okayas your thoughts on.

1445
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 4: The teal, I don't like them, but but I get it. Yeah,

1446
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 4: they're gonna sell.

1447
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:40,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1448
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 4: I think they're the brother of the Toronto Raptors big

1449
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 4: Dino jerseys. I think they're virtually the same weird design choice.

1450
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 4: There's a horse on that thing, Yeah, straight up horse

1451
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 4: a horse. There was a dinosaur on the Raptors, like

1452
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 4: the same era. It was the same sort of design.

1453
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 4: There's loud, purple, loud teal. Yeah, those were hot, So.

1454
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 3: I think it's a It may have been Sports Center

1455
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 3: with that tweet showing some of the retro logos like,

1456
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 3: what's your favorite Anaheim Mighty Ducks and maybe the I

1457
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 3: don't know who else was on their Colorado Rockies. The

1458
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 3: Purple Grizzlies were on there.

1459
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 4: The San Jose Sharks just kind of speak to that

1460
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,439
Speaker 4: to me, it was that era. It was that era

1461
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 4: was big. They're ugly, but I'm yeah, they're gonna sell

1462
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 4: a ton and Jane and Ivy looks cool.

1463
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 3: He doesn't cool in it, yeah.

1464
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 4: But he's a cool looking guy.

1465
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 3: It's true.

1466
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 4: I think it looks cool in anything.

1467
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 3: And then Trey, I think you tweeted about the Bucks

1468
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 3: Jersey's that you were you were in on these. You said, like,

1469
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 3: you know, Milwaukee sort of are always walking out of

1470
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 3: the park when it comes to you.

1471
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna see you say that. These make

1472
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 2: me hawny, baby.

1473
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,919
Speaker 5: But I think horns and antlers are different, and these

1474
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 5: are antlers.

1475
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, these are antlers.

1476
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 5: But I actually think the Bucks like their general design

1477
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 5: language and the way they like subtly incorporate.

1478
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 2: Blue every once in a while.

1479
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 5: I really like what they do with their uniforms, even

1480
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 5: if one time they put creams City on their uniforms.

1481
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 5: Just a weird choice to put cream City on there.

1482
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 5: The jerseys looks great. I think these look good as well.

1483
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 5: I know people are saying you can't just do a

1484
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 5: black jersey because you want to do a black jersey.

1485
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 5: I agree, but the game has changed. People just do

1486
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 5: black jerseys all the time now, and these look pretty

1487
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 5: slick to me.

1488
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 3: What was so confusing when these were like going around

1489
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 3: Twitter is like, we've seen these. I thought they had

1490
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 3: these already. They're so similar to a Fear of the

1491
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 3: Deer that they've already worn. I guess maybe that it

1492
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 3: wasn't black, is that right? I don't know. I was like,

1493
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,959
Speaker 3: these are jerseys they've already worn. I was like convincing

1494
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:32,719
Speaker 3: myself they've.

1495
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 5: Had a black They've had a few black uniforms for sure,

1496
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 5: just not with a buckhead on it.

1497
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 2: And then I think they might have had one that

1498
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 2: was like the white version of this. That's what I think.

1499
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 3: So I'm taking like two jerseys they've worn, and they

1500
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 3: basically are just like mixing them up and running with

1501
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 3: the fear of the Deer.

1502
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1503
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 3: I think this might be like the third iteration of

1504
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 3: the Fear the Deer statement.

1505
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:57,799
Speaker 5: Jerseys, stripe one giant buckhead antlers. Okay, Antli Pits.

1506
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 4: I just want to make one note because it's the

1507
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 4: off season. Here, we added something to the set which

1508
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 4: has a cream city vibe. Actually, uh j D's wife,

1509
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 4: Rachel framed.

1510
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 3: This young it's over my shoulder, over a.

1511
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 4: Skeet's shoulder there with the cream frame and that was

1512
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 4: done somebody. Yeah, that was a fan of ours Andrew.

1513
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 4: It's an with an oil painting. Yeah, wow, it's amazing.

1514
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 4: It is very well done. You know, some people may

1515
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 4: have missed that it's the off season. Nice frame drop

1516
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 4: by Rachel.

1517
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 3: Baseball stuff up here behind you, guys, a bunch of

1518
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 3: cars Go Jays.

1519
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't hate that they keep in the

1520
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 4: same color palette. You know, they're they're They're not the

1521
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 4: calves that have forty different colors. You know, I hear

1522
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 4: what you're saying. Skates, they look similar.

1523
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 3: I just thought they've warned them before. I was like,

1524
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 3: I like them, but I just thought they had.

1525
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 4: These Yeah, and last year, last year they had the

1526
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 4: forty year throwback to their their championship years, right yep.

1527
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 4: And those were similar too, Like they weren't loud, but

1528
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 4: they're nights. I think they're doing well.

1529
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 3: All right, thumbs upper thumbs down there in the stream,

1530
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,839
Speaker 3: team or everybody listening later, go seek out those new Pistons,

1531
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 3: spurs and Bucks jerseys and let us know what you think.

1532
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 3: Are your fans or no little fashion or no. We're

1533
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 3: gonna take one more break. But when we come back,

1534
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 3: we got tweeted the night and we'll wrap this bad

1535
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 3: boy up. Don't go anywhere, all right back here in

1536
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 3: the classic Factory. Appreciate everybody joining us here on a

1537
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 3: Friday morning. Hit that like button, subscribe to no dunks

1538
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 3: on YouTube. Let's get to tweet of the night.

1539
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 4: Tweet of the night. Wow tweet.

1540
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 3: Well, I've done this before. Tweet of the night goes

1541
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 3: to me. But there's a good reason why. At Jayson

1542
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 3: Skeets myself tweeted big Updates we just hit our goal

1543
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 3: of thirty thousand dollars for Saint Jude Children's Research Hospital.

1544
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 3: There's the tweet. Great stuff there, JD, y'all are the best.

1545
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 3: And I also said at Edrin Flames, you're a damn legend.

1546
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 3: This guy donated over twenty two hundred dollars amazing to

1547
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 3: our charity stream, So thank you, thank you, thank you.

1548
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 3: If you have no idea what I'm talking about. Two

1549
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 3: months ago, we did a four hour live stream here

1550
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 3: from the Classic Factory. We had an absolute blast trying

1551
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 3: to raise thirty K. Now, I forget where we topped

1552
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 3: out when we went off the air. Was it like

1553
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 3: twenty three twenty four thousand? It was something like that

1554
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 3: because we didn't hit the super sellout goal because we

1555
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 3: had goals for like every basically basically every five k,

1556
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 3: but we never hit that one on the air. That

1557
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 3: one was gonna be just one guy had to take

1558
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 3: every product we've ever had on the show, like every ad,

1559
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 3: and like just I guess, wear it all and talk

1560
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 3: about it all. That would have been funny. But the

1561
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 3: final one. I bring this all up because the final

1562
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 3: one there, that last little dot, the thirty thousand goal,

1563
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 3: which we have now hit again, thank you everybody that

1564
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 3: continued to donate after the fact, was the slim Dusty goal.

1565
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 3: Now that's slim Dusty right there. I grabbed a photo

1566
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 3: for everybody. An Australian singer, I guess a bit of

1567
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 3: a legend down under and correct me if I'm wrong, JD.

1568
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 3: It was going to be for Lee to to sing

1569
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 3: a slim Dusty song. Is that right.

1570
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:19,440
Speaker 6: I believe that was what we decided for some reason.

1571
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 3: Why we thought that would be the ultimate goal. I'm

1572
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 3: not sure, but I think this guy, especially because he's

1573
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 3: been off for five months now straight, when Lee gets

1574
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 3: back here next week or at some point this summer

1575
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 3: or near the start of the season, this guy owes

1576
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,600
Speaker 3: Edrin flames and he owes all the people that donated

1577
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 3: and Saint Jude Children's Research Hospital. He owes a slim,

1578
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 3: dusty song. Does he not?

1579
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 4: He does?

1580
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, okay, I think he will. I think he will.

1581
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 3: So we did it again two months after the fact.

1582
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 3: But we got to thirty k and that's a that's

1583
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 3: no joke. So thank you to everybody that donated. And

1584
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 3: you can go watch that stream if you want to. Hey,

1585
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 3: it holds up absolutely. There are some great moments. Off

1586
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 3: the top of my head. Task was he turned into

1587
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 3: a troll the table for a long time. Oh good,

1588
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 3: we gotta bring that back. I think we played ice chest. Yes,

1589
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 3: you guys were chucking some ice at me.

1590
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 4: The guitar had the guitar and of course Matt.

1591
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,600
Speaker 3: Spilt spilt a smoothie all over his computer.

1592
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 6: As smoothie Lind shake. I guess it wasn't Lynn Shake.

1593
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 6: What do we call it?

1594
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 4: I don't remember something.

1595
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 6: I think it was somebody said i'll donate, I'll double

1596
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:40,879
Speaker 6: my donation.

1597
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 3: Was it that guy the drone plays?

1598
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 6: It may have been it might have been him, but yeah,

1599
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 6: it was great.

1600
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 2: That part was great.

1601
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 6: It was like a cooking segment from how and he

1602
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 6: killed it as he always does.

1603
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 3: So go check that out. It's a It's available on

1604
01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:00,719
Speaker 3: YouTube or charity drive for sties for Toss, but thirty

1605
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 3: k has been reached. And Lely owes us a slim

1606
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 3: dusty song. I feel like he's sang a couple of

1607
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 3: lines once before.

1608
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 5: But yeah, the slim Dusty song is a pub with

1609
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 5: no beer and he wrote rewrote it as a rim

1610
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 5: with no net.

1611
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 2: Oh, I think right, so nice.

1612
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 3: Hey, what'd you think of the clip? Lee did find?

1613
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 3: It wasn't a run, but it was a one on

1614
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,600
Speaker 3: one game in Italy, A good game it did. The

1615
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 3: guy looked like I don't know the guy's name he

1616
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 3: was playing, but I was a little confused by how

1617
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 3: tall the net was. Yeah, I was like, yeah, was

1618
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 3: it short or was it just strange camera tricks like

1619
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 3: going on? But like where the camera was set up.

1620
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 4: I was really soft board anyway, I don't know how tall. Yeah, look,

1621
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 4: I believe it was in Barcelona.

1622
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 3: There, it was in Barcelona. You're right, it wasn't in Italy,

1623
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 3: was Yeah?

1624
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 2: I thought he was looking.

1625
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:49,879
Speaker 4: For any countries.

1626
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 3: Oh my god? Has he ever?

1627
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 4: He has been?

1628
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 3: He has been? Hold on, he has been to London,

1629
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 3: he's been to Cairo. He's been to Barcelona, for sure.

1630
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 2: Didn't he go to Calgary? That was to stamped Yeah

1631
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:03,679
Speaker 2: he went to the stand.

1632
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 3: Oh but that was on his right sure accounts he

1633
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 3: left the airport.

1634
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I left the airport.

1635
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 3: And so hold on, did you ever make it to Italy?

1636
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 4: He's probably there now, Oh my god.

1637
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 6: Well maybe he couldn't get the game going, so he

1638
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 6: just said, we're not going it Florence.

1639
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 2: Roxy, We're not going.

1640
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 3: Couldn't find a game gonna play in Barcelona?

1641
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 2: All right?

1642
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 3: That's the international man mystery for a reason. But he

1643
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 3: is back, and when he gets back, I'm out of here,

1644
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 3: and so is t K. That's right. It's a it's

1645
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 3: a tag lee you're in Uh so you're headed to

1646
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 3: Hawaii for for your friends wedding, right.

1647
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:41,759
Speaker 2: That's exactly tomorrow.

1648
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 5: Can't stop saying, mahalo, I'm chilling so hard.

1649
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 3: Oh, I can't wait for you to chill. You think

1650
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 3: you're gonna find a game in Hawaii?

1651
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 2: No, no, I take it sho. That's for Nicholas man.

1652
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 3: I'm headed to Toronto for a week, so it'll be

1653
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 3: a task JD and Lee if he ever gets back here,

1654
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 3: hold down the floor. You got some things planned though,

1655
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 3: you got obviously new no buns, like you said with

1656
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 3: Jason Stark, I think Lee's got to pop in packs

1657
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,600
Speaker 3: with a special guest in the hopper.

1658
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:20,600
Speaker 4: Should be Kelly Dwyer. Oh okay, coming on, we got Starks. Uh,

1659
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 4: no bunch, We've got no breaks happening with Grat Gordian

1660
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 4: and the guests. Yes, can't provide the guest on that

1661
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 4: one because I don't know.

1662
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 3: It, and no, I'm not gonna give it all away.

1663
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 3: But we're on the street. Is that we are introducing

1664
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 3: a brand new podcast series, uh with someone hosting Near

1665
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 3: and Dear to our heart uh and and your heart

1666
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 3: as well. So that's all I'm gonna say. I don't

1667
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 3: want to like get out into too much. Yeah, So

1668
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 3: lots of podcasts coming next week, even though t K

1669
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 3: and I will be gone and uh podcasts all summer long.

1670
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 3: So if you're loving the summer content, hit the light button,

1671
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 3: leave your boys five star rating and review heck on

1672
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 3: the next drop podcast, we should do a five star

1673
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 3: Friday mahallo. Yes, and maybe we'll do some rapid fire.

1674
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 3: We got to get everybody back to do the fire,

1675
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 3: you know, so we'll get there.

1676
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 5: We need one person sitting out of the rotation, one

1677
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,520
Speaker 5: person asking three answers, one person.

1678
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 3: Just yeah, exactly. That's how you do rapid fire. That's

1679
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 3: what really brings the energy. But yes, guys, we will

1680
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,719
Speaker 3: see you next week. And if any big, big trade happens,

1681
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 3: you know, we'll be doing an emergency podcast as well,

1682
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 3: So hit that notification button and subscribe so you know

1683
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 3: when we're live. Well until next time, clever bros. You

1684
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 3: heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

1685
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome.

1686
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us, and remember this is not going

1687
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,760
Speaker 4: to be a quick quippie one, but I'll try and

1688
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 4: make it short. The Raptors show hosted by Will lou

1689
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 4: Yes and Alex Wan. Quite often the producer they bad

1690
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 4: mouth my man Danny LaRue. This week, just a little

1691
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 4: quick joke about Danny LaRue. It was a three hour

1692
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 4: banter pod killing some time here in the summer, and

1693
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 4: so there's just one one tiny little line in there

1694
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 4: about my man Danny LaRue, Danny Data as his new

1695
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 4: nickname is now Danny Data.

1696
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 3: That's good.

1697
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great nickname for him. After we call

1698
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:17,919
Speaker 4: Danny Danny Data. I think it applies to Danny. Anyways,

1699
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 4: Raptor Show, don't f with Data, don't with my Danny Data,

1700
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,480
Speaker 4: or else we're gonna have beef. We've got the summer.

1701
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 3: Podcast to talk about his book Perfect We're supposed to

1702
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 3: come on. Yeah, all right, I.

1703
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 5: Want to.

1704
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 4: I mean I did. I did also tweet Alex Wong

1705
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 4: Steve Lebroaden gave him a piece of my mind. He said,

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Speaker 4: he said he loves Danny Data and he was just

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Speaker 4: he was just joking. But anyways, if you want some

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Speaker 4: Raptors content, great's on the On the Rappers Show.

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Speaker 3: We started with a bunch of compliments and we're ending

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Speaker 3: with podcast listen to all the other podcasts are you

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Speaker 3: always listen to? No dunks, no buns, no breaks, no buffs,

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Speaker 3: and the new podcast coming later next week. Is this good?

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Speaker 3: With embrace the debut