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Speaker 2: What is going on everybody? How are we doing on

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Speaker 2: this weekend in late March, we're already through the first

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Speaker 2: quarter of twenty twenty five. God time flies, and so

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Speaker 2: does the NFL offseason because we're under a month now

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Speaker 2: away from the NFL Draft. Free agency is wrapping up,

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Speaker 2: and we do what we try to do most weekends

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Speaker 2: one of the biggest stories of the off season so

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Speaker 2: far is Russell Wilson has signed with the New York Giants.

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Speaker 2: All scigns point to him being the back, starting quarterback,

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Speaker 2: definitely starting as of right now. We'll have to see

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Speaker 2: In college sports, it's impact and is it overrated a

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Speaker 2: different variables. I dove into that this week. And then

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Speaker 2: have Dual Carter, who is an excellent prospect. By all accounts,

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Speaker 2: him or Travis Hunter are the best players in this draft,

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Speaker 2: regardless of position. That includes the quarterback. Doesn't mean they'll

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Speaker 2: go one, but he's not able to work out at

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Speaker 2: we kind of dive into that from a scouting perspective

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Speaker 2: one thing scout the player, scout the person and get

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Speaker 2: his inability to work out and if that will have

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson has officially signed a one year contract with

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Speaker 2: the New York Football Giants, and some of us are

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Speaker 2: old enough to remember when him and Pete Carroll start

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Speaker 2: butting heads and Russell put out this kind of trade

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Speaker 2: four teams, and if memory serves me correct, the Giants

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Speaker 2: were one of those teams. So he finally gets his

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Speaker 2: wish of being the starting quarterback for the New York Giants.

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Speaker 2: Over the last five or six days, they've signed Jameis

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much they guaranteed of that contract.

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Speaker 2: We do know that they have guaranteed Russell Wilson ten

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Speaker 2: or five million dollars they're in this season. Guaranteed money

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Speaker 2: at around fifteen million dollars for these two players. And

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Speaker 2: listen the headline. Because he's a really famous player, and

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Speaker 2: at one point time in his career he looked like

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Speaker 2: Pretty crazy how this is all played out now as

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Speaker 2: think when you don't control I still think Schidor Sanders

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Speaker 2: New York Giants. But something crazy could happen, someone could

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Speaker 2: trade above them. They don't control their own destiny. So

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Speaker 2: thirty interceptions. Let me repeat that, thirty interceptions, not in

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Speaker 2: essentially tells you know you're not drafting number one overall

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Speaker 2: really tough situation. Here's the other problem. You play in

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Speaker 2: a loaded team, with the Washington Commanders who have what

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Speaker 2: looks sure looks like a superstar quarterback and a team

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Speaker 2: a playoff team. And let's face it, the Cowboys, when healthy,

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Speaker 2: Brian Schottenheimer new coach. There's some transition there. I think

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Speaker 2: I just think that Russell Wilson is not fixing much.

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Speaker 2: And I think the same thing with the Pittsburgh steel

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Speaker 2: And I feel for Shane and day Ball. Sometimes the

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Speaker 2: cookie crumbles from a quarterback standpoint, and you're in this

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Speaker 2: Wilson is your best option in twenty twenty five, his face,

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Speaker 2: let's not beat around the bush. You're fucked. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you really are. The Pittsburgh Steelers, who have a way

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Speaker 2: the last ten years have been really, really bad, and

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Speaker 2: I just don't think much change is here now. One

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Speaker 2: deep ball, and they do have Malik Neighbors, who is

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Speaker 2: a special talent. But when I look at this team

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Speaker 2: Wilson and Jamis Winston, like, welcome to the quarterback room, Shador.

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Speaker 2: But I still expect if he's on the board, the

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Speaker 2: Maybe the coach pushes for that. I wouldn't blame him

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Speaker 2: if he did, because clearly, like it's not like Shadur

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I think the headline and this

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Speaker 2: Philly gets really cold, Washington gets really cold, like this

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Speaker 2: for even a guy that had just looked okay, nowhere

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Speaker 2: Pretty good gig if it works out. Last I checked

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Speaker 2: made some pretty legendary individuals holding those positions when they won.

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Speaker 2: But this team is not going to win, and I

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Speaker 2: don't think signing Jamis Winston and clearly signing Russell Wilson

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Speaker 2: we have to acknowledge what we have seen, and what

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Speaker 2: we have seen is one, this team is that talented,

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Speaker 2: and two Russell Wilson is no longer really that good.

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Speaker 2: And if let's just give the hypothetical that Chadour, because

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Speaker 2: I guess Chador is a hypothetical to go there as well.

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Speaker 2: Let's say he doesn't go there. If you told me

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Speaker 2: what month do people start going, should we go to Jamis?

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Speaker 2: I'd say late October early November, like that would be

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Speaker 2: a conversation. And if you tell me Shador's on the team,

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Speaker 2: when do fans start going, let's go to Shador Sanders,

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Speaker 2: see what's coming from a mile away. Though I understand

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Speaker 2: I can't just go Well, even if we feel like

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Speaker 2: Okay, uh, one hot topic right now is UH. You know,

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Speaker 2: Rick Neuheisel was the coach, and Coach Hill looked at,

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Speaker 2: but Gary Payton was a badass. He went to Oregon State,

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Speaker 2: Because not every guy is mature enough to go play

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Speaker 2: I think we have seen two recent examples in Genty

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Speaker 2: out of high school, he's probably a bad example. But

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Speaker 2: Jenty definitely had been offered by Texas or Ohio State

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Speaker 2: only difference in basketball is so many of the quote

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Speaker 2: But if it had been when I was growing up,

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Speaker 2: stuff a couple of years ago, his antics even this

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Speaker 2: year when he was like screaming at the fans, I

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Speaker 2: think it turned a lot of people off, including myself

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Speaker 2: and even Sirianni. I think would have to be the

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Speaker 2: first to tell you, like, it's a bad look. But

433
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Speaker 2: in college, like your coaches need to be the stars

434
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Speaker 2: because the players don't stay there that long, even in football,

435
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Speaker 2: where it's mandated that you stay three years. Think of

436
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Speaker 2: all the superstar players Nick Saban had over the last

437
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Speaker 2: fifteen plus years, I could probably list twenty five first

438
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Speaker 2: rounders off the top of my head with ease, potentially

439
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Speaker 2: like thirty or forty. Yet the longest they ever stayed

440
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 2: was three seasons. Nick Saban was there seventeen. Coach k

441
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 2: coached for like forty to fifty years, same thing with

442
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Speaker 2: Jim Beayhunt. The coaches in college sports are your stars

443
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Speaker 2: in the pros. The difference is Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan, Belichick,

444
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Speaker 2: Andy Reid, Sean Payton. These guys are really famous and

445
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Speaker 2: they make a lot of money, but they aren't even

446
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Speaker 2: remotely close to his famous as the superstar players Peyton Manning,

447
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Speaker 2: Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, you name it. Why cause those

448
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 2: players are in the league for fifteen years, two decades,

449
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: a long time. So when you look at college like,

450
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Speaker 2: I need some big personalities as coaches. That's the way

451
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Speaker 2: the business works. I'm glad Dan Hurley is a nut job.

452
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Speaker 2: You know what. We need more nut jobs at coach

453
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Speaker 2: in football and in basketball. They are the big personalities. So, like,

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Speaker 2: I understand people being turned off by it. I don't

455
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Speaker 2: really care. But if you don't understand the importance of

456
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Speaker 2: having some crazies who are great, right, if you're just

457
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Speaker 2: crazy and not winning, no one cares. This guy just

458
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 2: went on one of the greatest two year runs in

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Speaker 2: the history of the sport, and I promise you this, like,

460
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 2: they ain't gonna be down for long. And here's the

461
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Speaker 2: other thing. They were toe to toe with Florida that

462
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Speaker 2: many consider, beside Duke, the best team in the tournament.

463
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Speaker 2: So I like Dan Hurley. I find him enjoyable. I

464
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Speaker 2: had this clip sent to me today from a buddy

465
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Speaker 2: and it was number eleven at Penn State in a

466
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Speaker 2: spring practice doing some like stack in shed drills, and

467
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Speaker 2: I immediately thought, why is Abdual Carter taking part in

468
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Speaker 2: spring practice with Penn State? And then I had to

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Speaker 2: click on it and I realized, no, that's not Abdual

470
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Speaker 2: Carter wearing eleven. That is LeVar Arrington's son, who is

471
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Speaker 2: a true freshman and looks exactly like Abduall Carter. And

472
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 2: Micah Parsons say whatever you want about James Franklin. From

473
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Speaker 2: a schematic standpoint, no one is going to confuse the

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Speaker 2: guy with Bill Walsh or Bill Belichick. But and obviously

475
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 2: LeVar went to school at Penn State. But that guy

476
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Speaker 2: can recruit some pass rushers. Because this kid, I'm gonna

477
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Speaker 2: go after I get done recording this podcast, watch some

478
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Speaker 2: YouTube highlights. Looks like, I mean, just from a body

479
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Speaker 2: type standpoint, looks like a future top ten pick. You

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Speaker 2: put on eleven at that program. The future is bright

481
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: because Abduall Carter. You know sometimes you.

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Speaker 1: Know drafts are different, right you You well, you evaluate

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Speaker 1: the draft based on that current year, Like if you

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Speaker 1: go three, it's based on that current crop of guys.

485
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Speaker 2: But in these draft meetings, you're constantly comparing them to

486
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Speaker 2: previous drafts, in previous guys in those drafts who are

487
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Speaker 2: now excelling or struggling in the NFL. It helps. It's

488
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: like in real estate you do comps. I'm sure in

489
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Speaker 2: a lot of different industries. People listening to me, you're

490
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: constantly comparing deals to previous deals. How much did we

491
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Speaker 2: pay for this? This is what we're willing to pay

492
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Speaker 2: for that because it parallels these previous three things we've done.

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Speaker 2: It's no different in football based on measurables, production, what

494
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Speaker 2: style of play you have. If there are four other

495
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Speaker 2: guys that play exactly like you that went in the

496
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Speaker 2: second round, like you're probably more inclined to take that

497
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Speaker 2: guy in the second round than draft him in the

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Speaker 2: top ten. And Abdul Carter, regardless of he was in

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five draft or in some of the

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Speaker 2: best drafts of all time as a prospect, he's a

501
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Speaker 2: legitimate top ten guy. In certain drafts, you know, I

502
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Speaker 2: would say a bad draft like this one, he can

503
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Speaker 2: go pick one, two or three. In some great drafts,

504
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Speaker 2: maybe he goes seven to ten. But he's a legitimate

505
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Speaker 2: high end prospect. His skill really translates. He does have

506
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Speaker 2: a lot of parallels with Micah Parsons. Now, I think

507
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Speaker 2: the thing with Micah that was a little confusing. The

508
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Speaker 2: reason he didn't go in the top ten COVID year

509
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: didn't play for the season. Don't blame him, but it

510
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: was just kind of a weird time. And usually when

511
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Speaker 2: guys like that just play going into their draft year

512
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Speaker 2: like they're gonna go really high. But we talk about

513
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Speaker 2: this all the time. You can scout a guy as

514
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Speaker 2: a player and there is no disputing If you watch

515
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Speaker 2: Penn State play, especially down the stretch in the playoffs,

516
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Speaker 2: You're like, this guy is a freak talent. I mean,

517
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Speaker 2: he's battling with a shoulder injury, so there's no disputing

518
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Speaker 2: his toughness, just his style of play. Like he's really

519
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Speaker 2: really good. And I haven't heard anything negative from an

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Speaker 2: off the field character standpoint, So I'm just gonna assume

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Speaker 2: like he's viewed as a real high end total package prospect.

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Speaker 2: But when things that are thrown in the mix, like

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Speaker 2: he still has a shoulder injury that he's nursing from

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Speaker 2: early ja Anuary, he has a stress stress fracture in

525
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Speaker 2: his right foot, those are things, as the area scout,

526
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Speaker 2: as the college director, hell as the general manager, that

527
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: are very very difficult for you to give a concrete

528
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Speaker 2: opinion on. You are very very dependent on your medical team.

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Speaker 2: So when Rosenhaus tells Schefter he's not participating in his

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Speaker 2: pro day, and everyone goes why, and Rosenhaus goes, well,

531
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Speaker 2: because of his shoulder still doesn't feel great from the

532
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Speaker 2: Boise State game, and you go, well, is that? Then

533
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: it's your job to find out is that the real

534
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Speaker 2: reason or is the story that came out at the

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Speaker 2: combine with a stress fracture in the right foot part

536
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Speaker 2: of the reason that he doesn't want to risk not

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Speaker 2: looking good moving around. And so as a scout and

538
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: as a scouting staff, all you can do is everything

539
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Speaker 2: humanly possible to accumulate as much information as you can

540
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Speaker 2: about what's actually going on. But when it comes to

541
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Speaker 2: a diagnosis like I don't know anything about shoulder injuries,

542
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about stress fractures in right feet.

543
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Speaker 2: It's why Jim Harbaugh got in this back and forth

544
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: with the local media this year in training camp, because

545
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: they were peppering him over injuries. And while he definitely

546
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: doesn't want to divulge anything, he's being told, like, it

547
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: was pretty easy for him to come, Guys, I'm not

548
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Speaker 2: a doctor. I don't know shit. I just reiterate what

549
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: I'm told, and there's a lot of truth to that.

550
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: And I think when you get in these situations, it

551
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: just sends huge alarms through the front office because it's like, well,

552
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Speaker 2: this guy's an awesome player, and if he's fully healthy,

553
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Speaker 2: he's a no brainer guy in this draft to take

554
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: really really high. And if we were the Titans, if

555
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: we're the Browns, if we're the Giants, if for the Patriots,

556
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: like all those teams are very very interested in this guy.

557
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: But to get to the bottom of, like what is

558
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: the state of his health and you're not listen. I

559
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: have a lot of respect for Drew Rosenhaus, but his

560
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: job is plain simple, period, point blank, end of story,

561
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: to figure out a way to make this stuff go

562
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: away and make you think that it's not a big

563
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Speaker 2: issue and make this almost feel like an afterthought because

564
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: whether his foot is healthy, whether it's going to be

565
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: an issue this fall, that's not his problem. His one

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Speaker 2: prerogative and objective as the guy's agent is to get

567
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: this guy selected as high as humanly possible, to make

568
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: him as much money as possible. And I think it

569
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: puts these people in tough positions, and now you just

570
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: have to get to the bottom of what is going on.

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Speaker 2: And we see a lot of times I think I've

572
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Speaker 2: given this example before, but I remember when the Raiders

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Speaker 2: would have been like twenty fifteen, maybe they were basically

574
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Speaker 2: deciding between Amari Cooper and Leonard Williams, and they ultimately

575
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Speaker 2: went with Amari Cooper because they weren't sure about Leonard

576
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Speaker 2: Williams's shoulder and there were a lot of question marks

577
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Speaker 2: whether he would need surgery. And obviously we're a decade later.

578
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: I mean currently today, you would rather have Leonard Williams

579
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 2: on your team than Amari Cooper. But that scares front

580
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: offices because they don't have medical degrees. They know how

581
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: to scout players, and they know how to talk about

582
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: football players and people, but when it comes to the

583
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: medical stuff, it's just out of their hands. And this

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00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: goes back to Nick Saban, and I'm not acting like

585
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: this guy is gonna plummet or fall in the draft.

586
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: But these are just issues that I mean, in the

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Speaker 2: perfect world, if you're abdual Carter and Rosenhaus don't exist,

588
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: but when they do, they just set off alarms. The

589
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Speaker 2: other thing that at least set off an alarm for

590
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Speaker 2: me was Ashton Gent's pro day was yesterday, so I

591
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: immediately I see on social media that he's working out

592
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Speaker 2: shirtless and he looks like a brick shit house. I mean,

593
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: he looks fantastic. And I text a buddy that I

594
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Speaker 2: knew was there and I said, well, what did he

595
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: run and he's like, well, he didn't run And I'm like,

596
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: well he didn't run at the combine either, and he's like, yeah,

597
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Speaker 2: he's just not going to run. Like what do you

598
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Speaker 2: mean he's not gonna run and listen. I would say,

599
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Speaker 2: Ashton Genty, unlike Abdul Carter, because he's healthy, is like

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Speaker 2: universally like stamp of approval in scouting circles, extremely well liked.

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Speaker 2: I think you would be hard pressed. And people think

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Speaker 2: I'm being critical because they keep bringing up that he's

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Speaker 2: five to eight. I've never disputed that he's an awesome player. Like,

604
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 2: you're not gonna find people around the NFL that don't

605
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: think very very highly of this guy the person and

606
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 2: definitely the player. And he's like, well, he's not gonna run,

607
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: so he's just not gonna run. He's like, yeah, just

608
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: not gonna run. And basically the way it was described

609
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Speaker 2: to me was it's not worth him running a four

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Speaker 2: five two and falling in the draft. And for him

611
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 2: falling in the draft, would all of a sudden be

612
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: going instead of seventh or ninth or twelfth or tenth

613
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Speaker 2: or wherever, you know, pretty high to maybe like eight teams.

614
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 2: And that's what can happen. Because we talk about all

615
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 2: the time, these measurables and these check marks before the

616
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 2: draft don't determine if you're gonna go to the Hall

617
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: of Fame once you get to the NFL, or become

618
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: a four time pro bowler or be a bust, but

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Speaker 2: they do help determine your draft stock. We have seen

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00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: time and time again wide receivers who are excellent players

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Speaker 2: run a slow forty guys that were like, this guy's

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Speaker 2: a first round player, and all of a sudden go

623
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Speaker 2: pick forty eight, all of a sudden fall to the

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Speaker 2: third round. Two guys coming to my mind, DeVante Adams

625
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: did not run very fast, fell to the middle of

626
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: the second round, Keenan Allen ran really slow, fell to

627
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Speaker 2: the third round. So like, running times as a skill guy,

628
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 2: regardless of how great your tape is, can really hurt you.

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Speaker 2: So Ashton Genty is just not gonna run. Now. When

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Speaker 2: I watched Ashton Genty play, I would say high end speed,

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Speaker 2: Like I don't think he's Adrian Peterson. You know, Jamier

632
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 2: Gibbs was a guy a couple of years ago who

633
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: ran a four to three six. I don't think he's

634
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: doing that, but I do understand if like, yeah, I

635
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: might on a good day run a four to four seven,

636
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: but I also might run a four or five two.

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00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: And given that my measureables aren't elite in terms of height,

638
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: it could cost me millions of dollars. And the one

639
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: thing that I heard about the workout is like, well,

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00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: the workout was elite, so listen, I get it, you

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Speaker 2: make business decisions. But I saw my guy. I don't

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Speaker 2: say he's my guy. Fuck, he won't text me back.

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Speaker 2: But an old friend and colleague of mine, Lewis Riddick,

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Speaker 2: called him a home run hitter, and I think home

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Speaker 2: when I think home run hitters, I think guys that

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Speaker 2: would never shy away from the forty. You know, I

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Speaker 2: think one of Lamar Jackson's poor decisions before the draft. Now,

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Speaker 2: it ultimately worked out because he went to a great team,

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Speaker 2: but everyone knew Lamark was gonna fly, and if he

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Speaker 2: would have ran the forty, like what would we guess?

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, as a twenty one year old coming out

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Speaker 2: of college would have ran the forty four three eight

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Speaker 2: four four zero like it would have been really really fast,

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Speaker 2: and he refused to do it. Now, I think the

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Speaker 2: reason he did was because Bill Pollian said he was

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Speaker 2: a wide receiver, and it was like a double middle

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Speaker 2: finger of like, I'm not showing everyone out fast I am,

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Speaker 2: They're gonna move me to wide receiver, even though that

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Speaker 2: was never gonna happen. But fast guys usually run wide

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Speaker 2: because they're fast, and I'm not saying this guy slow,

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Speaker 2: but it would give me a little pause. Now, part

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Speaker 2: of having a great running back in the NFL you

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Speaker 2: don't need like Saguan Barkley's pretty special. He has elite

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Speaker 2: high end speed. Adrian Peterson outlier had elite high end speed.

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Speaker 2: You can be a great running back, I mean, a

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Speaker 2: high end Pro Bowl guy just stud on my team

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Speaker 2: for multiple contracts and not be that fast. I don't

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Speaker 2: think Frank Gore had ACLS. I don't think Frank Gore

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Speaker 2: would have broke Force seven in the forty. It didn't matter.

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Speaker 2: He was an awesome player. I'm not depending on you

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Speaker 2: to run fifty yards consistently in the NFL. If you're

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Speaker 2: getting ten fifteen twenty yard runs, that's great. So like

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it bothered me, but it definitely was

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Speaker 2: something that kind of stood out, not running the forty

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Speaker 2: and listen, John Spytech, I was told was there and

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Speaker 2: that was always you know, Lombardi used to talk about

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Speaker 2: this back in his podcast days before he got with

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Speaker 2: Belichick at UNC. Is like Al Davis not in a

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Speaker 2: million years would have taken a guy that didn't run

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Speaker 2: a forty. I mean, the whole thing with the Raiders

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Speaker 2: was speed. So it'll be interesting if it just people

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Speaker 2: are just completely unfazed. And he definitely benefits from the

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Speaker 2: draft class. But you gotta have dual Carter with shoulder

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Speaker 2: and foot, and you have Ashton Genty not running the forty.

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Speaker 2: So these are just things that like in these draft meetings,

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Speaker 2: this is what you talk about.

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Speaker 1: The volume