Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, it is the Queen of Extreme fran scene
Speaker 1: and you are listening to Eyes up there with Francceine
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio network or wherever you get the podcast tonight.
Speaker 2: I do not have my co host Chad. Instead, I
Speaker 2: have the.
Speaker 1: Most handsome man in the universe, my friend Steve Corino
Speaker 1: from NXT, which I've been seeing you all over in XT.
Speaker 1: I just saw you as a detective. I saw that,
Speaker 1: Yes I did, because we follow each other on.
Speaker 3: Socials, right Officer Dick Richardson.
Speaker 2: I saw that. It was. Let me tell you, that
Speaker 2: was an Oscar winning performance. You were very very stern
Speaker 2: as you let me.
Speaker 3: I might quent and become a detective if that's the
Speaker 3: what you're supposed to do it.
Speaker 1: I would have been really scared if I was the
Speaker 1: one sitting in that chair, because you were just you were.
Speaker 2: Throwing the book at him. How well, how are you?
Speaker 3: How crazy? How about you?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: I'm doing fantastic, can't complain. Very good, very very good.
Speaker 1: We had a really nice, uh nice holiday, went to
Speaker 1: PA visited my family, so it was really good. The
Speaker 1: big gift for my kids we bought them like a
Speaker 1: regulation air hockey because they really like air hockey, and
Speaker 1: I thought, well, it'll get them off their devices and
Speaker 1: then we can all have tournaments and play. And uh,
Speaker 1: the one well, the one thing I forgot was my daughter.
Speaker 2: She's fifteen.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, my daughter's fifteen, my son's twelve, so they're
Speaker 1: they're getting up there. Yeah, but she's like super competitive.
Speaker 2: And so am I. But she was like really like
Speaker 2: trying to hit that puck and she was hitting it
Speaker 2: with such force that she bruised. So she's a little
Speaker 2: salty about hurting herself.
Speaker 1: But like they want to win me, and we're playing
Speaker 1: Disney Trivial Pursuit and we're all just like this over
Speaker 1: the table, ready to get each other.
Speaker 2: Like we're very competitive. Yeah yeah, yeah, we have the
Speaker 2: Disney Trivial Pursuit. We're well, we're going.
Speaker 1: To get into all this because we have some some
Speaker 1: special stuff coming up together.
Speaker 2: Which all right, how was your holiday, by the way, It.
Speaker 3: Was great, Like I had almost three weeks off. Like
Speaker 3: one of the cool things about NXT is we shut
Speaker 3: down right before Christmas and we don't go back until
Speaker 3: well I go back tomorrow morning. You gotta fly to
Speaker 3: LA But like it's almost three weeks off and like
Speaker 3: you don't know what to do with yourself, but like
Speaker 3: it had a great time. Like actually went to Florida,
Speaker 3: which was weird considering I wasn't working, and yeah, we
Speaker 3: did like SeaWorld and we did these springs and all that,
Speaker 3: and you know, it had fun. And you know, it's
Speaker 3: just I'm excited to go back to work though, but
Speaker 3: like it was, it was fun having like just a
Speaker 3: fun no stressful Christmas. It was great.
Speaker 1: Three weeks in a row, off three weeks in a row.
Speaker 1: That's exciting. That's yeah, that's a rarity. So let me
Speaker 1: just so for NXT, I know you have home base.
Speaker 2: Where you have like the n XT Arena. Is that
Speaker 2: what you call it?
Speaker 3: The I don't know what we call it. We just
Speaker 3: called PC. Yeah, I guess it would be the n
Speaker 3: X area.
Speaker 1: I think it's the X anyway, the where you have
Speaker 1: your shows, where you tape your your TV.
Speaker 2: Shows and stuff.
Speaker 1: When I was talking to the girls, when when I
Speaker 1: was invited to the show last month, and I was
Speaker 1: talking to the girls, and I was telling them like,
Speaker 1: you know, everybody's pretty much based in Florida, and they
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, because that's where you know, we perform
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 2: How often do you guys actually travel to do TV?
Speaker 3: So right now we're doing like twice a month like this.
Speaker 3: This month we got like La and Atlanta, and then
Speaker 3: in between we're back in Orlando. So I don't I
Speaker 3: don't know if that's like a thing that's going to be,
Speaker 3: you know, forever or what. But it's fun to get
Speaker 3: out of Orlando every once in a while, get in
Speaker 3: front of a different crowd and stuff like that. And
Speaker 3: but you know, selfishly, I kind of like driving eighteen
Speaker 3: minutes to work every day. So it's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can imagine, because getting on a plane
Speaker 1: every weekend, I can't even. I I love working now,
Speaker 1: you know, I pick and choose what I want to do.
Speaker 1: But when I have like three weekends in a row,
Speaker 1: I'm grateful for the work, but I'm just like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I have to fly three weekends in a row.
Speaker 1: Like it kind of gets to you sometimes. So it
Speaker 1: must be nice to be able to just jump in
Speaker 1: the car and be there.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because you know, I fly every week into Orlando,
Speaker 3: right North Carolina. But then now it's like going to La.
Speaker 3: I'm leaving North Carolina to go to La to go
Speaker 3: back to Orlando was in back to North Carolina, so
Speaker 3: it added another little bit of travel for me.
Speaker 1: But yeah, well I don't I don't want to talk
Speaker 1: about it too much because we have so much more
Speaker 1: to talk about, like fun stuff that I want to cover.
Speaker 1: But the whole uh you and wwe Because when I
Speaker 1: heard that you signed there, I was like super happy
Speaker 1: for you, but then I was like, you know, I didn't.
Speaker 2: I never expected you to end up there.
Speaker 1: Not not that you're not worthy of that position, because
Speaker 1: I always thought you had a great mind for the business,
Speaker 1: but how did you actually end up working for a
Speaker 1: next team?
Speaker 3: Behind the scenes, it was It was wild because I
Speaker 3: had basically broken my neck in fifteen, like so like
Speaker 3: I needed the fusion surgery and stuff like that. And
Speaker 3: I got the first call in October of twenty fifteen,
Speaker 3: and Matt Ballute says like, would you like to, you know,
Speaker 3: possibly call him earlier, that's my And I said, yes, sir,
Speaker 3: I would love to, but you know, I just found
Speaker 3: out I needed next surgery and he's like, oh the
Speaker 3: you know, and clung up on me. No, he didn't
Speaker 3: hang up on me. But that's the story I want
Speaker 3: out there. So they didn't put that right, and so
Speaker 3: like he just said, like, hey, we're going to pass,
Speaker 3: like you know, our coaches have to get in a
Speaker 3: ring and stuff. I said, oh, so, uh you know,
Speaker 3: probably nine months later he calls me back, he's like,
Speaker 3: they remember that job. He's like, do you like Melick
Speaker 3: shot at him like yeah, yeah, I would love it.
Speaker 3: And then uh I went down for tryout and stuff
Speaker 3: like that, and then tomorrow it'll be eight years.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: The time is why it does. And like the fact
Speaker 3: that the office doesn't know I work there, it's so helpful.
Speaker 3: I just just slide under the radar everywhere.
Speaker 2: I don't know you worked there, and they don't know
Speaker 2: you wrestled.
Speaker 3: No a world champion, they know not. I changed my
Speaker 3: look all the time just to be like a chameleon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, ridiculous, of course they know who you are. Get
Speaker 2: out of here. You're silly, do you do you actually
Speaker 2: have to bump like a lot, not.
Speaker 3: A lot every once in a while. Yeah, sometimes sometimes
Speaker 3: to prove a point. And uh, my guys, but I
Speaker 3: got like the my guys are the greatest, Like I've
Speaker 3: all the tags and like they're the best, and I
Speaker 3: love it and it's it's it's like it's not going
Speaker 3: to work every day because and I know that's so cliche,
Speaker 3: but like, you know, all are all my guys are
Speaker 3: real tight, and like we have a focus, and the
Speaker 3: focus is you know, them not seeing this mug every
Speaker 3: day and getting the rocks back down and you know,
Speaker 3: you know, eventually, you know, when I'm you know, pee
Speaker 3: and my pants every day, like they'll pay for my
Speaker 3: GoFundMe or something like that. You know, it'll all circle back,
Speaker 3: but it depends. Yeah, yeah, and uh and then yeah.
Speaker 3: So it's it's just so much fun. And you know,
Speaker 3: to teach tag team wrestling every day, like it's great,
Speaker 3: you know, t be stressful, so stressful and beating up
Speaker 3: my liver those are worse than the bumps. But like,
Speaker 3: but it's it's so rewarding because as you know, when
Speaker 3: we were wrestling, you know, like we create the match,
Speaker 3: we create the story, we create the scenario. You go
Speaker 3: out and like you're in control, like you know, but
Speaker 3: producing is such a different, you know, such a different thing.
Speaker 3: It's like you help them do this, you do this.
Speaker 3: The second that music comes on, You're like, I have
Speaker 3: no control, you know, you just hope it goes well,
Speaker 3: and you know, I hope I'm not calling the wrong
Speaker 3: shots to the director and like poor director NXT because
Speaker 3: I always get all the complicated run in and this
Speaker 3: and that, and like you know, I could just I
Speaker 3: can feel the life coming out of them on the
Speaker 3: other end of the headset, like, oh my god, we
Speaker 3: gotta put up with Steve again.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. I think everybody admires you.
Speaker 1: And that's the vibe I got you first of all
Speaker 1: when I saw you back there.
Speaker 2: You looked like a suit You look super professional.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, call yeah, that's such a good thing to
Speaker 4: be as cool as a cucumber, right, just like I was.
Speaker 1: Really not not that I'm not impressed with you as
Speaker 1: a person or anything, but seeing you in that element,
Speaker 1: because I mean, look, the last time you and I
Speaker 1: worked together it was in ECW and we were a
Speaker 1: bunch of goofballs.
Speaker 3: Just yeah, we.
Speaker 1: Were young, we were in our twenties having a good
Speaker 1: time and which I am dying to get into and
Speaker 1: I will. But I'm just so first of all, I'm
Speaker 1: happy that I was called to do that only for
Speaker 1: the simple fact that I got to reunite like with
Speaker 1: you and see some people that I hadn't seen in
Speaker 1: like so long.
Speaker 2: That was like, plus the money. Not gonna lie, that
Speaker 2: was nice too, to get a pay I did, but just.
Speaker 1: Like it, you know, because I think I don't dwell
Speaker 1: on the past, but I do think of my friends often.
Speaker 1: And you and I were just so very close at
Speaker 1: one point, and then everybody drifts and goes ways, and
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that we reconnected.
Speaker 2: So I me too.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And that was one of the things, like
Speaker 1: I couldn't wait to come there because I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Steve's going to be there.
Speaker 3: This is so great.
Speaker 1: Like you, I thought you hated me, so me and
Speaker 1: ce Dupe thought you hated us at one point.
Speaker 3: Really, I think that's just the wrestling drift, like you
Speaker 3: don't see each other, especially see something. I talked to
Speaker 3: him every day.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, well at the at the time, you guys
Speaker 1: weren't really talking.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, Like we went like a year without talking day.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And I love that.
Speaker 1: And and then when I saw you, I texted him
Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't think there's he He's like,
Speaker 1: there's not, there's not We're all friends.
Speaker 2: And I was like yay, and I'm just so happy.
Speaker 1: I don't know me my old age, but I just
Speaker 1: I don't like people not liking.
Speaker 2: If I don't know what I did wrong.
Speaker 3: Like I feel the same way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and I want to reconcile everything. So when
Speaker 2: I saw you.
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, like I saw well, I
Speaker 1: saw you first at Wrestle Khan, right, but your face
Speaker 1: when you came up to me, you looked like a
Speaker 1: scared child.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's just you just stood.
Speaker 1: There like, no no expression, and you looked like you're
Speaker 1: gonna shait your pants.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, it's he scared to talk
Speaker 2: to me because I was scared to talk to you.
Speaker 3: No. I just you know, I'm horrible in social situation.
Speaker 3: That's why I don't do the conventions much because like
Speaker 3: I just sit there like now I'm thinking, oh my god,
Speaker 3: it's just where I shit my pants, and uh, I
Speaker 3: would it?
Speaker 2: So, yeah, you shall come on the road with us.
Speaker 2: We have such a good time.
Speaker 1: But regardless, I was thrilled to see you again. And
Speaker 1: now we've been going back and forth and I'm super excited.
Speaker 1: But we were very very close, and I thought of
Speaker 1: a I thought of a couple stories that I'd like
Speaker 1: to go over and maybe you have some that I
Speaker 1: won't mention that I might have forgot.
Speaker 3: What.
Speaker 2: Okay, do you want to do? You want to start it?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, because you want me to start with my first story?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, So I've told this story a number of times
Speaker 1: and I might remember different than you.
Speaker 2: So I would like you because I really.
Speaker 1: Feel like you were mad at me when this happened,
Speaker 1: and I want you to tell then, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: you and I.
Speaker 2: I got us a booking.
Speaker 3: Okay, oh good?
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So I got us a booking at some convention or
Speaker 1: some show.
Speaker 2: And I said, you remember this?
Speaker 1: Do you remember I said to you, they are taking
Speaker 1: care of our hotel?
Speaker 2: Good you remember?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, I've told my my version. You have to tell
Speaker 1: your version because I want to see if I'm correct
Speaker 1: in my thinking. So I got us the booking. I
Speaker 1: don't remember how, and.
Speaker 3: I was it somewhere in Massachusetts or was a Jersey It.
Speaker 2: Had to have been far because we stayed overnight.
Speaker 3: We definitely did stay overnight. That's the part of the story.
Speaker 1: Right, So I okay, So for those of you who
Speaker 1: aren't following, because Steve and I could just look at
Speaker 1: each other, and we know it worked for.
Speaker 2: Those of you have no idea.
Speaker 1: This was after E c W and because you and
Speaker 1: I were doing some shots together afterwards.
Speaker 2: We're all trying to like help each other get bookings.
Speaker 1: I remember this, and we lived kind of close in proximity,
Speaker 1: and I said, Hey, Steve, there's this show or this convention.
Speaker 2: Do you want to do it with me? And you
Speaker 2: were like yeah.
Speaker 1: I said, great, they are getting us a hotel. But
Speaker 1: what I didn't tell Steve is that it wasn't a
Speaker 1: hotel room. It was a convent, a convent, a convent, right,
Speaker 1: We're not with the Catholic convent where nuns lived, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if they sponsor, if they were one
Speaker 1: of the sponsors, but like all the boys were invited
Speaker 1: to stay at the convent. And so I tell Steve,
Speaker 1: we're staying somewhere, but I never told you when.
Speaker 3: And you played it up too. You were like, I
Speaker 3: heard this pretty nice place. You know it's gonna be good,
Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, you know, you know pretty won't
Speaker 3: let us down.
Speaker 1: I know, well, first of all, it was free, so
Speaker 1: you were like it was free. So all I remember
Speaker 1: and you take it over. We we had directions after
Speaker 1: this show. I don't know if it was a show
Speaker 1: or convention. We pull up and do you remember it
Speaker 1: was like a kind of like a hill with like.
Speaker 2: Lit candles, like yeah, lit pathway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's where like horror places or horror movies are made, or.
Speaker 2: Tell your side of the story.
Speaker 3: So the way I remember it was, yeah, like I'm like,
Speaker 3: I don't see the hotel. You're like, well, it's not
Speaker 3: really a hotel. And that's that's when you were like,
Speaker 3: you know, uh, you know. I think you even tried
Speaker 3: to say it was called like the convent or something
Speaker 3: like that, like it was some sort of like fair
Speaker 3: Field in or something like that.
Speaker 2: The name of the place they want, the convent.
Speaker 3: All right, and we went in and I just remember
Speaker 3: there was no food, right and yeah, and then you know,
Speaker 3: we had to pair off and go and it was
Speaker 3: I don't know if I slept in much at all.
Speaker 1: No, why would there be food?
Speaker 2: Food? Yeah, but this was common No.
Speaker 1: Okay, see he's he doesn't remember. We had to ring
Speaker 1: the doorbell and then none answered the door.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: You and I had to say that we were married
Speaker 1: because we were checking the same room.
Speaker 2: Do you remember.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, now I remember that.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I said, yes, this I'm lying to and
Speaker 1: I God, forgive me.
Speaker 2: This is my husband.
Speaker 3: Because you're a Catholic. Right I'm Catholic? Yes, like but
Speaker 3: like almost struck me as we came in.
Speaker 2: I said, this is this is my husband.
Speaker 1: They had an elevator that was the crank, yes, yes, never.
Speaker 2: They had to pull a chain and you could only
Speaker 2: go one one at a time. And I was scared
Speaker 2: to death and I was going steep, come whether you go. No,
Speaker 2: I'm not on that elevator. Wait, I get on the elevator.
Speaker 2: They she cranks us up, right, I get off.
Speaker 1: There's a huge statue of Jesus staring at.
Speaker 2: Me, and I'm like, oh my god. Remember the big
Speaker 2: Cross was there, and I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: So then Steve comes up and we go into this room.
Speaker 1: No TV, so air pods or you had a what
Speaker 1: was back then walk.
Speaker 2: Well, a walkman or a what did they call that?
Speaker 2: The newer thing?
Speaker 1: Yes, you hadn't and I didn't, and you were like
Speaker 1: so mad at me, and You're like I'm not talking
Speaker 1: to you, and you put your earphones.
Speaker 2: On and you just lay there. I was just like
Speaker 2: sitting there and I was like, well, what am I
Speaker 2: supposed to do? Exactly separate beds. You wouldn't look at me.
Speaker 2: I sat there, grumpy. What did you do? You went
Speaker 2: and took a shower.
Speaker 3: I took a shower, and what did you do in
Speaker 3: the shower? Watched my body? No, what else you could do?
Speaker 1: It was disgusting, And he goes, yeah, I just pleasured
Speaker 1: myself in the shower.
Speaker 2: It's like, you're big, you got.
Speaker 3: The Catholic one. Yeah, oh yes, I remember that.
Speaker 1: I try to remember that story like little pieces, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know I'm forgetting something, but your your
Speaker 1: memory is worse than mine is.
Speaker 3: Sometimes.
Speaker 2: I just thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, and we didn't have like, we didn't have
Speaker 1: phones that recorded. Could you imagine if we recorded that
Speaker 1: stuff that would have been a YouTube place would have
Speaker 1: been Yeah, why yeah, well I didn't see him doing.
Speaker 3: I was yeah, I could be lying, Oh.
Speaker 2: My god, no, it was so great. It was so great.
Speaker 1: It was it was the perfect like you would say,
Speaker 1: it's the perfect rib but like I but it was
Speaker 1: me too, So I was ribbing myself practically.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were we were true wrestlers, like taking any
Speaker 3: free room possible, and like the nuns are like, come
Speaker 3: on in, come on in.
Speaker 2: She was like you're married, right. We're like yes, ma'am.
Speaker 3: Yes, what are we doing?
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: That was the signing where I got into a little
Speaker 3: scuttle butt with the dude that was Darth Vader. Do
Speaker 3: you remember him?
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, was it a Star Wars convention
Speaker 2: or something?
Speaker 3: It was It had to be, because like he was
Speaker 3: reading the morning paper and I was just like, sir, like,
Speaker 3: when you're done with that, could I read that? And
Speaker 3: he goes, I paid for this, and I go, hey, man,
Speaker 3: it's a newspaper. Can I just can I read it?
Speaker 3: He's like yeah, but I'm in it right, And I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh god, and like a gravity irene and it's like
Speaker 3: Darth Vader appears and I was like, Darth Vader, yeah,
Speaker 3: jamesaw Jones, Yeah, I think he just died.
Speaker 2: So I feel that he died a while ago, but okay, hilarious.
Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
Speaker 3: Was already ruling, and I think Georgia Animal Steel tried
Speaker 3: to sell me on religion that.
Speaker 2: Day, to see it was meant to be it was
Speaker 2: a convert.
Speaker 3: They failed. Yeah, so funny.
Speaker 2: What is yours?
Speaker 3: My story for you.
Speaker 2: Is, I don't know this one.
Speaker 3: Of course you know this one because I usually start
Speaker 3: every day out with this one. Trenton, New Jersey c
Speaker 3: Yo Shu, Yes, okay, I've been with the company three
Speaker 3: months doing nothing but jobs for Nova and Chetty. In
Speaker 3: the opening match, Shane is you know where I'm going?
Speaker 3: Shane is hurt. I think it was supposed to be
Speaker 3: Tommy verse Shane, right, and it might not have been
Speaker 3: Shane somebody.
Speaker 1: Because if I was already with Tommy, Sheane had left
Speaker 1: the company.
Speaker 3: Okay, so somebody else. It was supposedly somebody way cooler
Speaker 3: than me against Tommy and then uh yeah, Tommy goes.
Speaker 3: You know, uh, this is where our relationship starts.
Speaker 2: We broke up because this is so wrong.
Speaker 3: Where he goes, you know, you know, Dreamer is He's like,
Speaker 3: or you can talk on the mic. Yeah, I go
Speaker 3: a little bit, and you're like, all right, my back sore,
Speaker 3: Let's do a big promo. You got something. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'll do something. And uh we walk out and you go,
Speaker 3: who am working with? And Dreamers like him? You go,
Speaker 3: we're working with him.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, that's not that I had.
Speaker 3: It like, oh no, that is the main event with
Speaker 3: you too. Yeah, that is not like it.
Speaker 1: No, I said, we're working with him because the plans
Speaker 1: have changed. It was no, it's you so much. It
Speaker 1: was nothing against you. I liked you. I liked you.
Speaker 1: I just in my mind we were supposed to do
Speaker 1: something else and I was just said, oh, we're working
Speaker 1: with him.
Speaker 2: It wasn't I think I say we're working with him, no,
Speaker 2: because I wasn't like that, and you know, I wasn't like.
Speaker 3: That was and then we were there. It has so
Speaker 3: much fun, right, all right.
Speaker 2: Well we'll fast forward that because we remember that differently.
Speaker 1: I think that you have in your head something completely
Speaker 1: different that never happened.
Speaker 3: I was like young kid looking for an opportunity. Are
Speaker 3: you too big that's at the top of the card
Speaker 3: that have been on pay per view? Or like.
Speaker 2: Not at all, not at.
Speaker 1: All, that's not true. I did not say it like that.
Speaker 1: Just everybody know that. I didn't say it like that.
Speaker 1: I was just confused because I was told we were
Speaker 1: working with somebody else, and I was like, oh, we're
Speaker 1: working with him, meaning oh, plans changed.
Speaker 2: You're so full of shit, You're so wrong.
Speaker 3: You didn't say, like, do you know what a microphone is?
Speaker 3: I couldn't swear he said that. What, No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about you and I.
Speaker 1: Because we we had a hell of a history together
Speaker 1: back in the day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you you have like the greatest winning record versus.
Speaker 1: Well, see, now, every guy that I have on from
Speaker 1: ECW that I beat up, I always apologize to, and
Speaker 1: I think I apologize to you when I saw you
Speaker 1: at NXT.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 3: Later.
Speaker 2: Well, no, I used to say it in the back too.
Speaker 2: Are you mad at me?
Speaker 1: Be like, no, shut up, and I'd be like okay.
Speaker 2: It was fun.
Speaker 1: But in retrospect when like okay, Like for example, I
Speaker 1: did a round table and I was the only girl
Speaker 1: on the panel, and across for me at the time
Speaker 1: was Bruno san Martino. He was one of the guys
Speaker 1: and he looked point blank at me and said women
Speaker 1: do not belong in our business.
Speaker 2: As I'm sitting there, and I was just like, sir,
Speaker 2: like what do you say?
Speaker 1: It's first of all, it's Bruno, Like, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: and all I said was I respectfully disagree with you.
Speaker 1: And that was it because I wasn't going to argue with.
Speaker 3: The guy, but received should I'm against.
Speaker 1: Well, they see, like when I had like hack on
Speaker 1: and when I had the Dudley's on and so on
Speaker 1: and so forth, I had always asked them, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to ask you.
Speaker 2: Paul made me out to be like this superwoman.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, And I was like a buck twenty at
Speaker 1: the time, which was not really too believable, but I
Speaker 1: had the attitude, and you know, I tried to be
Speaker 1: tough and all this stuff.
Speaker 3: But and you were over too, So like I believe that,
Speaker 3: not that it puts, you know, weight on, but it
Speaker 3: puts legitimacy in the fans of eyes when like you're
Speaker 3: so over it doesn't matter if you're a buck twenty.
Speaker 3: You know, it's you're superwoman.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that he made me out to be superwoman.
Speaker 1: But when it's you and I and I have to
Speaker 1: beat you up and I have to pin you on
Speaker 1: pay per view or wherever we're at as a man, like,
Speaker 1: did you ever have like any like remorse or not
Speaker 1: not remort? Did you ever look at me and say
Speaker 1: what a bitch? Like why do I have to put
Speaker 1: this girl over like I know we had a personal relationship,
Speaker 1: we were friends, but did did like an ego ever
Speaker 1: get to you because a lot of men won't do
Speaker 1: that for the girls. You know, a lot of the
Speaker 1: older old timers, they don't feel like the women belong
Speaker 1: in the ring with them. And so I always got
Speaker 1: nervous because I was just like man Corino's bigger than me,
Speaker 1: Buba's bigger than me, Devon's bigger than me, Hats bigger
Speaker 1: than me.
Speaker 2: But here I am, I'm running out like a lunatic.
Speaker 1: I'm doing all these cool moves and they have to
Speaker 1: sell for me, and I always felt awful.
Speaker 3: Oh really no. So I always loved the one time
Speaker 3: I remember because we had started doing it around the
Speaker 3: loop where like it was promo this something here you come,
Speaker 3: you know, we would do our quick match and it one,
Speaker 3: two three, And I remember second guessing myself for a
Speaker 3: second when Paul put me in there with Jazz, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I guess you know, I'm not looking
Speaker 3: at it the way I thought it was, because I'm thinking, like,
Speaker 3: you know, you and Tommy were interchangeable, Like you know,
Speaker 3: if I was in the ring with one of you,
Speaker 3: I was in the ring with both of you, So
Speaker 3: I was I was beating off both your reactions. And
Speaker 3: but then then I got to Russell Jazz and I
Speaker 3: was like, I am like the guy that just puts
Speaker 3: the women over. And then like I went out there
Speaker 3: with Jazz and then she just kicked the shit out
Speaker 3: of me, and I said, you know what, I'm good
Speaker 3: with this. Yeah, let me go back to Franny. Franny
Speaker 3: doesn't beat me up. And but no, I always thought
Speaker 3: of him as this way. It was what was the
Speaker 3: situation was Tommy's back was bad and then but like
Speaker 3: I don't know, like it was just one piece of
Speaker 3: the team on that one, because even in those long
Speaker 3: matches where it was me and Tommy doing the physicality,
Speaker 3: you were a major part of it all the time.
Speaker 3: So it was like, you know, I thought it was
Speaker 3: interchangeable that like here I get to do the promo,
Speaker 3: I get the you know, get the heat on the mic,
Speaker 3: and here's the payoff of you know, you beating me.
Speaker 3: Like my favorite one was, well we did it, and
Speaker 3: I want to say it was somewhere in Louisiana with
Speaker 3: one main gang and uh, you know they here it
Speaker 3: comes and here's the seven forty seven and you give
Speaker 3: me the DDT and like the place is rocking like
Speaker 3: it's nineteen eighty six minutes south like like I don't know.
Speaker 3: I always thought of like it's more about the reactions
Speaker 3: than like an ego. And I tell my guys that too,
Speaker 3: an NX because you know, if you think about like
Speaker 3: twenty five years later, it's an amazing learning tool when
Speaker 3: I say, don't worry about what you're doing, like live
Speaker 3: in a moment, have fun with what you're doing, because
Speaker 3: like in a year, you could be totally different. You know,
Speaker 3: I spent the summer of ninety nine losing you every weekend, right,
Speaker 3: but then a year later I was a world heavyweight champion.
Speaker 3: You know, that's x lestling right there. And I don't
Speaker 3: think that I would have gotten that opportunity to be
Speaker 3: even considered for that if like I didn't have you know,
Speaker 3: Paul knew he could always go to you and I,
Speaker 3: you know, were we always had fun in the ring,
Speaker 3: but we always stuck with it, like you know, stuck
Speaker 3: with the story and everything like that. And you know,
Speaker 3: I felt like it built like more you know, as
Speaker 3: trust as Paul can have. But like if build trust
Speaker 3: in Paul like like he's never complaining about putting Francine over.
Speaker 3: And you know we would do what sometimes fifteen second
Speaker 3: matches or sometimes it was three minutes and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But like, I don't know, I always thought we gave
Speaker 3: the people what they came to see. They wanted to
Speaker 3: see me talk, then me get my ass beat, and
Speaker 3: it didn't matter if it was you or Tommy, it
Speaker 3: was still the same, like anybody that goes back on
Speaker 3: the house shows and stuff like that, like tell me
Speaker 3: what was the bigger reaction Tommy beating me with the
Speaker 3: DDT or you beating me with the DDT, And it
Speaker 3: was if it wasn't even every night, it was you
Speaker 3: were up a little bit like to me as a heel,
Speaker 3: like I don't know, I was having the time in
Speaker 3: my life. And then with Jacko out there, and you know,
Speaker 3: it was hilarity because now you know, all of us
Speaker 3: would get back in the car and you know, we
Speaker 3: would drive to the next town and like we would
Speaker 3: laugh about it and stuff like that. So it was
Speaker 3: I don't know, I felt like, Wow, I'm in a
Speaker 3: program with all my friends. This is so cool.
Speaker 1: That's the way I thought, too, But I always was
Speaker 1: worried about.
Speaker 2: The word I was looking for earlier was resent.
Speaker 1: Like I never wanted the guys to look at me
Speaker 1: and resent me for the what Paul wanted me to
Speaker 1: do out there, you know what I mean. And I'm
Speaker 1: not going to say I didn't enjoy doing it, because
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: I mean, like you said, I had a.
Speaker 1: Great time, you know, performing, But I just I felt
Speaker 1: like our relationships within that company were so strong, especially.
Speaker 2: The Philly Click, because we had our own.
Speaker 1: Little click that we all hung out and traveled and
Speaker 1: you know, did stuff outside of work. And I never
Speaker 1: wanted you to look at me and resent me for
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: What we had to do in the ring. So I'm
Speaker 2: happy that you feel happy.
Speaker 3: I never thought, never in a million, I thought it
Speaker 3: was remember before you before I got to do stuff
Speaker 3: with you and Tommy, like I was an opening card
Speaker 3: heel that, you know, just not lingering, but just like
Speaker 3: Paul didn't know what he was going to do with
Speaker 3: me at the time and stuff like that, Like to me,
Speaker 3: you guys were helping me out with the you know,
Speaker 3: giving me the rub and getting me to the top
Speaker 3: of the car because you know now it was you know,
Speaker 3: after that Jerry wanted to do something with me and somebody,
Speaker 3: you know, and they you know, I think they saw
Speaker 3: that like I was safe with you, you know, and
Speaker 3: you know, you know I could be trusted in like
Speaker 3: with their bodies too, so like for sure, yeah, and
Speaker 3: I didn't and you never cared about losing, you know.
Speaker 3: It's just so good. Yeah, And I think that anybody
Speaker 3: who resents it doesn't understand that, Like we're telling stories
Speaker 3: out there and it's the reaction. Like I always believe
Speaker 3: that the baby face pop when they defeat like a heel,
Speaker 3: like when you defeated me and the crowd would go crazy,
Speaker 3: like I always took it like that's part of my
Speaker 3: pop too. If I stink it up on the mic
Speaker 3: and or I take Nicolai bolcock bumbs for you like
Speaker 3: and then you hit your DDT and I take it
Speaker 3: with hit like and they go, you know, like but
Speaker 3: like the louder they got, like the more I took
Speaker 3: pride into like oh that that's mine too, or like
Speaker 3: you know, one good heel line if you and Tommy
Speaker 3: gave me a line or something like that like that
Speaker 3: I could hit out there, you know, and it hit hard.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh that was a great line they
Speaker 3: gave me, like, you know, they're enjoying the heat too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: I remember this st that I gave you off the Ropes,
Speaker 1: and I just remember us trying it beforehand and you
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, yeah, this is great. Do that and
Speaker 1: I said okay, and we did it, and the place erupted,
Speaker 1: and I thought when I landed, I kind of looked
Speaker 1: at you and you gave me like a half shitty smile,
Speaker 1: and I was like.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited. It was a lot of fun. He everyone.
Speaker 1: If you are enjoying the interview so far, please tune
Speaker 1: in on Thursday for part two.
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