1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: All right, good evening, Texans, and welcome to the program, 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: and we will have a program for you tonight. A 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: lot of things to talk about, but we had to 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: begin the program with this with such heavy hearts as 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: news broke today that Ryan Mallett, former Texans quarterback, is 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: dead at the age of thirty five, drowned reportedly on 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: a Florida beach. Mallet played for the Texans in twenty 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: fourteen and twenty fifteen. We all remember the Cleveland game 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: when he won, as his first start went so well 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: through a TD pass to JJ Watt. But Mallet eventually 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: played for the Ravens. He was with the Patriots before 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: the Texans and became a high school football assistant in 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: twenty twenty in Arkansas. Recently accepted a head coaching job 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: in high school football in that state, where he played 15 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: college football. He also played at Michigan. But Mallet gone 16 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: at thirty five, reportedly drowned on a Florida beach, and 17 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: so sad, so tragic, what more can you say about it? 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: And will continue to break the news as I'm sure 19 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: many listeners are tuning in. But Johnny and I have 20 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: a show ready for you tonight and we had planned 21 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: on doing this and we're going to continue to do 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: this because there's not much more to say. It's just 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: I don't have any more details on Ryan, and I'm 24 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: sure more details will emerge, but it's just so shocking 25 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: and saddening to hear that Ryan Mallett has passed at 26 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: age thirty five. All right, let's get with the rest 27 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: of the show, and we're going to talk about something 28 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: that I wanted to talk about a bit last night. 29 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 2: I tweeted out an Instagram. 30 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: Post that the team put out our social media department, 31 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: and with JJ going into the Ring of honor, they 32 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: had the offensive goat of franchise history, Andre Johnson, the 33 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: defensive goat JJ. 34 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: Watt, and who is the special team's goat? 35 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: They were asking, well, the overwhelming response was John Weeks, 36 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: who has all those consecutive starts far and away a franchise. 37 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: Record, and for a non. 38 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: Position player, I hate to say that with John Weeks, 39 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: it's a position. Long snapper is a position and. 40 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 3: A key one. 41 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: You know how important long snapping is. Think about life 42 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: without plumbing or electricity or air conditioning. Long snapper is 43 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: air conditioning because when you don't have it, you really 44 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: notice it. If that snap goes over the punter's head, Boy, 45 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: is that going to be noticeable? If that is not 46 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 1: on target for a key place kick, you're gonna notice that. 47 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: But we take him for granted because never missed one, right. 48 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: I hate saying that. McLain says that. John McClain says 49 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: it all the time, and I cringe. I cringe. 50 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 3: Oh, like, no, don't say that. And then it's you know. 51 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: But how about this. 52 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: You know this better than anybody that there are subtleties 53 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: to this too. It's not about all right, did you 54 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: snap it over the guy's head or not. The ball's 55 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: got to be on target so the holder can get 56 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: the laces in the right place, so the punter has 57 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: it just the way he likes it, so it gets 58 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: there in zero points six to eight seconds or whatever 59 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: the time is that they needed to get there. Those nuances, 60 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: those subtleties are so important because if they're not there, 61 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: if it gets there in point seven to two, it's blocked. Yep, right, 62 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: It's that it might look good at first, but a 63 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 1: split second later the ball is going in the wrong 64 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: direction because somebody got a hand on it. 65 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and say a snap is six inches left or right, 66 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 4: you know, as Wesley Snipe said, and white man can't 67 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 4: jump the wink and blow at six inches to the 68 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 4: right or the left, six inches to the right of 69 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 4: the left with a snap, and that might move Cam 70 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 4: right into the way of a blocker, yeah, coming to 71 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 4: block the punt. Yeah, And that hasn't happened. So the 72 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 4: answer to your question. As soon as soon as I 73 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 4: saw it, I was like, my instant reaction, it shouldn't 74 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 4: have been like Dud's John Weeks, but it was, Come on, 75 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 4: it's Weeks. I mean, he's he's been the guy since 76 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 4: twenty ten, and he's a guy that I can't remember 77 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 4: what year was Mark. He was playing through a bad 78 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 4: knee injury, a bad knee injury. I want to say 79 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 4: it was eighteen. He was playing through an injury, and 80 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 4: every time he went out there, he was struggling to 81 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 4: get back over the sideline. And I kept thinking, at 82 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 4: that point, Okay, this is that time we see him 83 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 4: break down, like this is this is the time we 84 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 4: get a bad snap, This is the time we have 85 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 4: an issue. 86 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: Never did, Nope, never never did. 87 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 4: And I just think his consistency over all these years, 88 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 4: no matter who they brought in a training camp, what 89 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 4: rookie they brought in, whatever competition, however you look at it, 90 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 4: He's been the gold standard on special teams without a doubt. 91 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 4: I think it's it's John Weeks and I don't know 92 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 4: that it's a question, but we can make it a question. 93 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: We could make it a question. We could make it 94 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: like this. Who else deserves consideration? Yeah, special teams goat 95 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: in franchise history. Give me a name, You give me 96 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: one name. Okay, I'm gonna give you your name. 97 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 4: And on Sunday evening, January twenty twelve, doing my Overnight Show, 98 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 4: if anybody heard that Overnight Show, they they're going to 99 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 4: be absolutely shocked at what I'm about to say, because 100 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 4: I absolutely lost my mind that Jacoby Jones tried to 101 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 4: headbut a punt that was bouncing down inside the ten 102 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 4: yard line in the playoff game, in the playoff game 103 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 4: against the Ravens. And I love Mark, you would have 104 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 4: been very, very proud of that moment. But Jacoby and 105 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 4: people will remember the Super Bowl return that was with 106 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 4: the Ravens. 107 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 3: And all that, but the franchise it's still ours. 108 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 4: When Jacoby caught punts, it was going to be exciting 109 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 4: one way or the other. 110 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: It really was. 111 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 4: I mean, you were like, okay, so you gonna take 112 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 4: this back And there was a run I came it 113 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 4: was eight or nine where they punted the ball, and 114 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 4: I remember when the ball would go up in the 115 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 4: air to him, I'm like, okay, something good is happening. 116 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 4: I just felt that every time the ball was gonna 117 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 4: be was gonna be kicked in whatever way, kick, pump 118 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 4: whatever to Jacoby, he was gonna make something happen. I 119 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 4: never felt like the Texans were able to get as 120 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 4: much out of them as they probably wanted as a receiver. 121 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 4: But yeah, Kevin Walter, you had Andre Johnson. He still 122 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 4: made some great plays at receiver. He probably just wasn't 123 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 4: as consistent as Rick Smith probably would have wanted and 124 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 4: Gary Kubiak wanted when they when they drafted him on 125 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 4: a lane college. But in the return game he was 126 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 4: scary and they had a run whether it was eight 127 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,559 Speaker 4: or nine where ball got in his hands, you stood 128 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 4: up and watched because something good was gonna happen when 129 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 4: he got the ball. So I'm gonna throw Jacobe Jones 130 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 4: out there. My rant about him trying to field a 131 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 4: bouncing ball on a punt against the Ravens. Notwithstanding, I 132 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 4: felt like the electricity that he brought to it was 133 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 4: pretty It was I wanna say overwhelming, but it gave 134 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 4: the Texans a boost when they definitely needed it. 135 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely. I think it's a great suggestion. 136 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: He is the all time leader in special teams touchdowns 137 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: for the Houston Texans. He has four returns for touchdowns 138 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: and that's a good number. Nobody else has more than three. 139 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: So I think Jacoby Jones is a great idea. We're 140 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: talking about special teams. Goat best special teams players in 141 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: team history. And look, we're not going to get into 142 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: all the gunners and people like that because that's a 143 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: different deal, right, special teams tackles. 144 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: We could get into some of that. 145 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: The last couple of years, we've seen some special teams, 146 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: some dudes, Yeah, getting down for There's what I'm gonna suggest. 147 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 4: He wasn't a gunner, but he was instrumental specialtis. We'll 148 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 4: get to him a little bit later though. 149 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: Okay, let's do this though. Let me give you a name, 150 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: Chris Brown. I love Kaimi fairbarn and I think fair 151 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: Baron has been very solid for this team. I'm not 152 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: saying Brown isn't well. I think fair Baron's actually better 153 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: than Brown in many ways. But fair Baron hasn't had 154 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: those opportunities that Chris Brown had. Chris Brown almost every 155 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: year of this franchise had chances to do really cool things. 156 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: Year one, he kicked the field goal, the only field 157 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: goal in the game against Pittsburgh, his former team at 158 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: the time, and they felt like, well they the fans 159 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: felt like Chris Brown was run out of town, right 160 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: and he goes back. Texans have three defensive scores. The 161 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: only offensive points were Chris Brown's foot, so it's really special. 162 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: Teams offense could move the ball forty seven yards. We 163 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: know that whole legend. Year two kicks the game winning 164 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: field goal against the Miami Dolphins on opening Day. I 165 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: talked about that win before. That was a really tough 166 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: place to win in September back in the day, and 167 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: he kicked the game winner against them. Then Kansas City 168 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: and four game winning field goal. 169 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: Cool. 170 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: Five, he has a shaky season, has that horrific shank 171 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: at Tennessee. A lot of Texans seasoned fans will remember 172 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,599 Speaker 1: that one. But six he bounces back works with doctor Brittella, 173 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: famous for working with golfers, but he works with him 174 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: and in six he's got a season. He hits that 175 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: big one against the Colts on Christmas Eve to beat 176 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: them for the first time ever. Two thousand and seven, anybody, 177 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: he has a game against Miami where he kicks three 178 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: field goals. Chris Brown did from beyond fifty four, so 179 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: two from fifty four and the game winner from fifty seven. 180 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: He was Special Teams Player of the Week and it 181 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: was an NFL record at the time. Somebody has since 182 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: broken that one, or they did the same thing, and 183 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: they were flashing that up there on the screen. I 184 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: think it was a red zone day for me. We 185 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: weren't playing. I thought, well, I know Chris Brown's done 186 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: something similar to that. I can't remember who the kicker was, 187 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: so I apologize there. But it goes on and on 188 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: Oh eight Green Bay game winner three degrees lambeau Field 189 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: forty yard or boom. So Fairburn hasn't had as many 190 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: chances to make big game winning kicks. Now it all 191 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: went wrong for Chris Brown, and OH nine missed one 192 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: at the buzzer that would have tied it against the Colts. 193 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: On the road and we all know how important that 194 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: was at the time. And he also missed one at 195 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: the buzzer against the Tennessee Titans a week later here 196 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: at NRG Stadium in prime time, and that one hurt 197 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: a lot. Vince Young remained perfect against the Texans at 198 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: the time. But overall, Chris Brown had a hell of 199 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: a career for the Houston Texans. He played longer than 200 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: Fairbaran's been with the team so far, and he has 201 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: something twenty five thirty more Madfield goals and I think 202 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: Fairbann other than the playoff game. The playoff game was 203 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: huge to be able to win that one against Buffalo 204 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: with Fairbarn's leg, But that was a chip shot. 205 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 3: That was a. 206 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: Wedge as opposed to hitting the target with your seven 207 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,599 Speaker 1: iron right, that was a much more makeable you know. 208 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: I hate to say anything's easy, but it's much easier 209 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: than making a fifty five yarder for the wins. So 210 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: I'll nominate Chris Brown as one to get second place 211 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: consideration behind one John Weeks, give me another name. 212 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 4: Okay, so you went, Chris Brown. I'm thinking about two names, 213 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 4: but I'll go with the first one. It's the one 214 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 4: that you already mentioned. That's Kymie Fairburn game winners twenty eighteen. Yeah, 215 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,359 Speaker 4: here against Dallas. The week before against Indianapolis. 216 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: Oh Dallas. I forgot about Dallas. 217 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 5: Yeah. 218 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 4: Now, both uh, they weren't huge relatively, but if you remember, 219 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 4: if you remember against the Colts, it's thirty seven yards 220 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 4: and they called time out that one, and he went 221 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 4: through it and he pushed it right and I just 222 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 4: remember thinking, oh no, And then when the real one came, 223 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 4: he buried it. I mean it was right down the middle. 224 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 4: And how did that twenty eighteen team need that game? 225 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 4: I mean that four or three and one and he 226 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 4: buries that, and then the next week he got Dallas 227 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 4: and look chip shots aside, I mean that game winner 228 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 4: against Dallas. I mean it still was in the thirties, 229 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 4: with all of that that went on in that game, 230 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 4: right against Dallas Sunday night, to coolly knock that one through, 231 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 4: He's had game winners, you could Buffalo Buffalo was definitely 232 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 4: a chip shot because they were inside the ten yard 233 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 4: line at that point. But I want to give him 234 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 4: credit for one field goal that he hit that I 235 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 4: still to this day it's a field goal we absolutely 236 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 4: needed in twenty eighteen, and the game ended on a 237 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 4: field goal yeah miss by Brandon McManus. But against Denver 238 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter, we were I think, was tied 239 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 4: and weren't moving the ball that well, and there for 240 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 4: about a fifteen minute real time span, the wind in 241 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 4: the stadium kicked up, like I mean, like I had 242 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 4: never seen it. It blew over the punting net. I 243 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 4: mean think it was crazy. And he had to kick 244 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 4: about a forty yarder into that wind. And I'll never 245 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 4: forget that ball he kicked. I remember him telling us 246 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 4: about this. He started outside the right, upright, and that 247 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 4: thing snuck in the left up right. 248 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 5: Ooh. 249 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 4: And I remember because I'm Stanton, you know me, I'm 250 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 4: the upright, so I can kind of see it move, 251 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 4: but I'm just trying to make sure it goes through 252 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 4: so I can tell you good or why right or 253 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 4: why left? And so I don't really I can't really 254 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 4: say anything because I'm watching the ball, like where's this 255 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 4: thing going? 256 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 3: And then I realized, okay, he went through. 257 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 5: Good. 258 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 4: When I went back and watching it on television on 259 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 4: the you know, we were on the plane coming home, 260 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 4: and I was like, holy cow, that was a hard kick. 261 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 4: And it went in that game by three points because 262 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 4: of that field goal. 263 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 3: That's a big one. He's made big kicks. 264 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 4: He's been consistent since he started in a full time capacity. 265 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 4: In twenty seventeen, he hit twenty of twenty five, hit 266 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 4: thirty seven of forty two. He had twenty of twenty five, 267 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 4: he had twenty seven of thirty one, fifteen of nineteen, 268 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 4: and then this past year he was twenty nine of 269 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 4: thirty one. I hate the fact that that was I 270 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 4: don't say wasted on a three thirteen and one season, 271 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 4: but it was wasted on a three thirteen in one season. 272 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 4: But in playoff years twenty eighteen, thirty seven out of 273 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 4: forty two, nineteen, twenty out of twenty five, eighty eight 274 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 4: point one percent one year, eighty percent the next year. 275 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 4: And I remember in that twenty nineteen season he missed 276 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 4: a few early and it was I remember we were 277 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 4: talking about this, we were gonna break, and we're like, oh, 278 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 4: we're gonna do this now, and then he got hot 279 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 4: and I don't think he missed for the rest of 280 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 4: the season. 281 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 5: Yep. 282 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 4: He I just feel like and he hit sixty one 283 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 4: yard against Seattle went twenty twenty one, which a team record. 284 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 4: So when it comes to who's foot do I want 285 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 4: on the ball at the end of the game, I 286 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 4: want him Now he's we went fifteen this year, so 287 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 4: we'll see how he adapts to a new number. But 288 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 4: I think if what we saw in OTAs, yeah, I 289 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 4: don't remember him missing. 290 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 3: One a Otia we saw phenomenal. 291 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: We saw in one practice in particular, where he just 292 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: made every he made every swish Swiss swish. 293 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 3: He had a. 294 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 4: Bomb from like sixty that would have been good from 295 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 4: sixty five easy. 296 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, they had a. 297 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: Two minute situation he had to make a sixty yarder 298 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: to get the win for the offense. 299 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: And he did it. So I'm going Kymie Fairbairn, all right. 300 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: I just think I know I'm right about this because 301 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: based on the numbers I am, he just hasn't had 302 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: those opportunities at the end of games to kick forty plus. Right, 303 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: He's kicked thirty plus and twenty plus, but not too 304 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: much forty plus. He just hasn't had the reps to 305 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: be able to even try it. And he's never missed 306 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: a big one. He's never missed a really. 307 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 3: Big one, a really important one. 308 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: So I'll give him that for sure, and the career 309 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: is in progress, all right, Shane Leckler, Johnny he comes 310 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: here in twenty thirteen, we're talking about Special Teams goats 311 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: for the Houston Texans, John Weeks has the award. It's 312 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: almost like when Jordan was MVP and you're voting for 313 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: second except for a kid team who would be awesome. Yeah, 314 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: it just didn't always work out that way when the 315 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: Bulls were in full force with Jordan for a full season. 316 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 3: Anyway, we don't have to get into that. 317 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: But Shane Leckler, his average just dominates now when you 318 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: look at inside the twenty. He had some incredible punts 319 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: in the twenty thirteen season when he first got here, 320 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: just out the sandwich. 321 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 5: Yep. 322 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: But Cameron Johnston is really good at this too. On 323 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: pace guy says Cameron Johnston over the five season, les 324 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: five seasons Leckler played Johnston in two seasons is already 325 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: halfway there to punts inside the twenty. So that's worth 326 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: noting for sure. But Leckler's a Hall of Famer punter 327 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: and I think that he deserves strong consideration for Special 328 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: Teams goat second place. 329 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 3: Anyway. Yeah, his his. 330 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 4: Numbers actually was looking at his numbers and his yards 331 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 4: per punt for the five years that he was in Houston, 332 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 4: forty seven point six, forty six point three, forty seven 333 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 4: point three, forty seven point five, and forty nine. Those 334 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 4: are all higher than what he did in Oakland except 335 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 4: for a couple of seasons. I mean, he was he 336 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 4: was madly consistent, and even his net yards per punt 337 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 4: were really good those five years. In comparison, I mean, 338 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 4: they're right along with what he was doing in Oakland 339 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 4: when he was in a run where he was a 340 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 4: Pro Bowl, All Pro punter and he should be the 341 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 4: next punter into the Hall of Fame. Here's one of 342 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 4: the reasons why I would I would put Leckler in this. 343 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 4: I would give him hard consideration for this. We were 344 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 4: in We were in Oakland in twenty fourteen, so you know, 345 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 4: that was my first year in the sidelines, and so 346 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 4: I had gotten to know them a little bit, you know, 347 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 4: because the specialists are kind of I kind of hang 348 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 4: out near the specialist. In fact, the week before weeks 349 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 4: he almost nailed me with a snap because I kind 350 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 4: of got a little too close, so he sent a 351 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 4: warning shot. He got a little close to that warning 352 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 4: shot Anyways, I get to know those I get to 353 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 4: know those guys a little bit. And I've obviously known 354 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 4: Weeksi and Leckler for for a while. So we were 355 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,959 Speaker 4: in Oakland and so Shane walked over and I said, 356 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 4: how's it the punt in this place in Oakland? I said, 357 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 4: you know this place? Like, what is it? Was it 358 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 4: the puntlet? And he went into this dissertation about knowing, well, 359 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 4: on a day like today, the wind's gonna be coming 360 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 4: out of the southeast, so I know, if I'm punting 361 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 4: going this way and I'm gonna put this, I'm gonna 362 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 4: put this kind of punt. But if it's a little 363 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 4: bit later in the day and we're going in this 364 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 4: other direction and put this. He gave me a breakdown 365 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 4: of every punt you could make in the Oakland cow 366 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 4: in the Coliseum, and I was like, I was intrigued 367 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 4: at that point. You know how I feel about punters 368 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 4: and kickers. I'm just like, all right, they're they're they're 369 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 4: a necessity. But I am hanging on every work. 370 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 5: Because this is cool. 371 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 4: So we started talking about different places, like, yeah, yeah, 372 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 4: if you go to if you go to Pittsburgh, you 373 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 4: don't want to punt this kind of punt. That's the 374 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 4: kind of point you don't You definitely don't want that. 375 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 4: And if it's a night game in Pittsburgh, you certainly 376 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 4: don't want to do this. He broke every like all 377 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 4: the stadiums in AFC. He was like, Oh, this stadium, 378 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 4: you definitely don't want to punt it to that corner. 379 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 4: You don't want to do this. You want you want 380 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 4: to keep the punt low in these places. You don't 381 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 4: want it high here. It was fascinating. I mean, he 382 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 4: gave me this study of uh he gave me this 383 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 4: study of basically punting in the NFL, and I was 384 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 4: just enamored with it. I was like, look, you grab 385 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:12,959 Speaker 4: the you grab the ball, and you punt it. 386 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: Man. 387 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 4: They couldn't have been further from the truth. He was 388 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 4: so good giving that so okay, a guy that I 389 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 4: can't remember if he was still here for the with 390 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 4: that first year with Leckler. But you talked about we 391 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 4: talked about return guys, kickers, punters. 392 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 3: Brian Braman was one of the better cover special. 393 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 4: Teams guys this team has had, and whether he had 394 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 4: his helmet on, had his helmet off blocking punts, he 395 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 4: was an absolute superstar going down and of course you 396 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,239 Speaker 4: see the hair flying around, and he was just a 397 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 4: madman and he understood. 398 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 3: What his role was. And the Brian Braman story is 399 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 3: an incredible one. 400 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 4: But when he gets to the Texans, you think, Okay, 401 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 4: the guy maybe feels like he's made it. He's gone 402 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 4: through everything to get to this point. But it didn't 403 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 4: matters like, yeah, I gotta go on special teams, on 404 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 4: special teams. Okay, whatever I've got to do, I'll go 405 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 4: break up at the time. Wedgebusters, you know, he was 406 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 4: a he was a wedge buster. He never slowed down. 407 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 4: He's the kind of guy that a special teams coach 408 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 4: would say, Okay, which guy looking around? Which guy's my wedgebuster? 409 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 4: Which guy can I rely on? Which guy's my core 410 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 4: four special dates? The guy have got it Braymen, and 411 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 4: he was it. 412 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 3: He was the guy. He was credible, all. 413 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: Right, Johnny, And we're doing Special Teams goats besides John 414 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 1: Wiks who wins the award automatically in our opinion, Can 415 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: I interest you in more touchdowns? 416 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:43,719 Speaker 5: Okay? 417 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: Kickoff returns for touchdowns? I mentioned Jacoby Jones has the 418 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: kick return or return TD record, which is four, but 419 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: three of those are punt returns. There's no but three 420 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: of those are punt returns. One's a kickoff. There are 421 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: two players in French history with three kickoff returns for touchdowns. 422 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: I will do this player first. Andre Davis, who I 423 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: love and I wish he lived in the area. I'd 424 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: love him to be one of those Texans legends that 425 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: we have on the air a lot and does a 426 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: lot of events because he's such a terrific guy and 427 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: I really miss him. 428 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 3: I believe he was here for Andrea's Ring of Honor. 429 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: Weekend when all the alums came in, or so many 430 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: alums came in. It was a great weekend. But Andre 431 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: Davis the last day. You want to talk clutch performance. 432 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: And I know there are more people involved in a 433 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: kick return for a touchdown than the return man himself, 434 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: but he's the guy who gets the glory the last 435 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: day of the regular season. It's two thousand and seven. 436 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: It's been an up and down year to say the least. 437 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: Matt Schaub was acquired. He's hurt, he's healthy again, he's 438 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: hurt again. Rosenfels has to finish off the season. There 439 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: they are at home with a chance to go five 440 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: hundred for the first time ever. Look, you're not gonna 441 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: have a parade over it. You're not gonna put up 442 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: a Colt Spanner for going five hundred for the first 443 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: time ever. But you want to go five hundred for 444 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: the first time ever. You're playing the Jacksonville Jaguars. They 445 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: don't need the game. They sit David Garrard, they start, 446 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 1: they start Quinn Gray. Quinn Gray throws for three hundred 447 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: plus and he's on fire. 448 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 3: Quinn Gray is tortuing you. Okay. 449 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: Andre Davis returns two kickoffs for touchdowns, not one, but two, 450 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: and you win by fourteen. You win by those two. 451 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: That's how important that performance was. Look, you didn't go 452 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: to the playoffs, but you went five hundred for the 453 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: first time. That was a good Jags team that a 454 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: week later would beat Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh. 455 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 2: So that was a clutch performance. 456 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: Had another kickoff return for a touchdown another time, so 457 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: he has three. Now there's only one player in the 458 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: history of the franchise other than Weeks, to go to 459 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl for Special teams, and that is Jerome Mathis, 460 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: who everybody says he was from two thousand and five, 461 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: a very forgettable year two and fourteen, but he returned 462 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: two kickoffs for touchdowns that year and went to the 463 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. He also had another one and oh seven. Wow, 464 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: what a what a team performance for kickoff returns for 465 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: tds and O seven that Ligas Shesky. No, that wasn't Leggy, 466 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: that was Marcianos Arceio yea, yeah, so good for them. 467 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: Mathis with three, Andre Davis with three. I'm going to 468 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: give them honorable mention. What do you think? 469 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:32,719 Speaker 3: I think those are both really good. 470 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 4: I mean when you think of Jerome Mathis going to 471 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 4: the Pro Bowl, week Sie and Mathis are only two 472 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 4: special teamers to go to the Pro Bowl, So I 473 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 4: mean you have to you have to consider Jerome Mathis. 474 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 4: It just was such a short period. 475 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 3: Of time, disappointing career, right absolutely. 476 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 4: Now there's one guy that we didn't quite mention, and 477 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 4: yet he didn't have any return touchdowns, but from a 478 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 4: yard standpoint, and because he's one of the greatest guys 479 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 4: that ever lived, he's got to be on a consideration. 480 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:05,479 Speaker 3: That's JJ Moses. 481 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: Oh, JJ Moses has a ton of return yards. 482 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 4: And yeah, he's got I love him hit thirteen hundred 483 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 4: three kick return yards in four he hit thirteen fifty 484 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 4: five and three. He had five fifty three punt return 485 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 4: yards uh in combined in those two years as well. 486 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 4: So he's I think he's second to map this, I 487 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 4: believe in Oh no, I'm sorry, all time return yards. 488 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 3: He's the leader, and he's the leader in the clubhouse. 489 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, well they got kicked off a lot too. 490 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's true. So true, that is true. 491 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: But it's not going to take anything away from JJ Moses, 492 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: who we saw at the Legends day at OTAs and 493 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 1: terrific to catch up with him. 494 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, And so JJ Moses we got I'm making 495 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 4: sure that we we. 496 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 3: Add him in there. 497 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 4: But you know the guys that have been on the 498 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 4: on the the special team's last couple of years, You 499 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 4: guys like MJ. 500 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: Stewart, daryagom As himself. Yeah, he's played some Smith obviously, 501 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: is Neville Hewitt. 502 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 4: I mean there have been some guys that have gone 503 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 4: down and made some incredible plays. I mean, these special 504 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 4: teams have been incredible the last couple of years under 505 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 4: Frank Ross, and hopefully that that continues as this team 506 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 4: gets better. Hopefully it's not well, we got better offense defense, 507 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 4: but the special teams. I don't think Frank and Frank's 508 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 4: gonna let that let that fall off. But I'd like 509 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 4: to see a little bit more in the return game. 510 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 4: I just don't know how much the return game is 511 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 4: going to be part of the game anymore. Yeah, but 512 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 4: if Steven Simms, if Stephen simms philosophy is carried through 513 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 4: in the NFL, which I thought was one of the 514 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 4: most enlightening answers we got throughout all our talks on 515 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 4: media days. We asked him about the new touchback rule 516 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 4: where if you catch the ball outside of the end 517 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 4: zone but before the twenty five, if you make a 518 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 4: fair catch, the ball goes to twenty five. And he said, 519 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 4: if that ball has kicking me in front of the 520 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 4: end zone, I'm returning it. 521 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, And we're like, really, like, no, I'm return better. 522 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: Make it past the twenty five otherwise you'll be sitting 523 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: next to Frank Ross on the field. 524 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, that philosophy go by the waist side. 525 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 5: If that's the case. 526 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: Okay, Johnny, stick around and we'll continue to talk Texans. 527 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: We'll continue with interviews. We have the safety dance going 528 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 1: tonight with m J. Stewart speaking of special teams, personal 529 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: protector on the Punt Unit, and also Eric Murray, and 530 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: again not much more to say about the passing of 531 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: Ryan Mallett at age thirty five, My goodness, dead on 532 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: a Florida beach, apparently drowned, reportedly, news broke today. So tragic, 533 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: so horrifying, and again we don't have any more details 534 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: on that. I just want to say that, and we'll 535 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: continue to do a show here today Texans All Access, 536 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: and we'll reset when we get back with our interview 537 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: with m J. 538 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 3: Stewart. 539 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 1: It's Texans Radio continuing on Texans All Access tonight. If 540 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: you joined us late, if you just jumped in the car, 541 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: you didn't know. Ryan Mallett, former Texans quarterback, Raven's quarterback, 542 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: Patriots quarterback, dead at. 543 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 3: The age of thirty five. So tragic. 544 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: Reportedly drowned on a Florida beach. Mallett had just accepted 545 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: a job as a high school football coach in Arkansas, 546 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: where he was an assistant since twenty twenty. And not 547 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: much more to say other than we are so shocked 548 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: and saddened by this news. Just terrifying, horrifying, Ryan Mallett 549 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: dead at the age of thirty five. 550 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: Rest in peace. 551 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 1: Ryan played for the Texans in twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen. Right, 552 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: that's promised. Now an interview as we caught up with 553 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: m J. 554 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 5: Stewart. 555 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: We were talking special teams in the first segment. 556 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 3: MJ. 557 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: Stewart personal protector on the punt team, among other things, 558 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: good safety and m J. Stewart likes the way this 559 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: offseason has been going so far. 560 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 5: It's been great. 561 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 6: You know, we take this whole ota period to really 562 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 6: you come together as a team and just getting to 563 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 6: know of new guys is very cool. 564 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 4: You brought in some vets, some guys from around the 565 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 4: league that you know, but also some rookies to the group. 566 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 4: I like the secondary group, the secondary group that's come 567 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 4: together in that room that you brought together. Some guys 568 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 4: that have been here. Eric Murray's been here, brought in 569 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 4: Jalen last year, but Jimmy's new to the group. Kind 570 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 4: of has the group matched together in the short time 571 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 4: you guys have been together, MJ. 572 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 6: We've actually been mentioning really good, you know what I mean, 573 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 6: Like you said, there's been some guys who you know, 574 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 6: have been here some new faces as well, but we 575 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 6: all come together, we all you know, connect as a family, 576 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So I'm really excited about 577 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 6: our secondary group and I feel like we're going to 578 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 6: be a force to be reckoned with. 579 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: Describe the vibe or culture or however you want to 580 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: describe it to me with the new coaching staff, how 581 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: has that been. 582 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 5: It's really kind of like upbeat, you know what I mean. 583 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 6: It's just like, uh, it's just something in the air 584 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 6: that's really positive. It's positive energy, good energy in the air. 585 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 6: And I'm excited for the season because I feel like, 586 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 6: you know, with Miko, you know, he played here. He's 587 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 6: a former player, so he understands you know, you know 588 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 6: what I mean. A lot of coaches can't relate because 589 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 6: you know, they just coached, they didn't play. But Miko played. 590 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 6: He understands, you know, how we how we are, what 591 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 6: we go through. And so just just having a coach 592 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 6: like that, you it makes you want to, you know, 593 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 6: work harder for him because he understands you, you know what 594 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 6: I mean. 595 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, j if you. 596 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 4: Had you know, it's a I say, it's a new defense. 597 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 4: But then you look and you see some of the 598 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 4: same elements. So and you've been around the league for 599 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 4: a little bit, what's different about this? Give you have 600 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 4: to go into like you know, the exactly what you 601 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 4: can't right, But but but how is it different? Is 602 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 4: the verbiage different? Are things easily more easily to pick 603 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 4: up on? We talked to can't remember who it was 604 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 4: that said it's a little bit more this or that. 605 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 4: There's there's not as much you know, kind of gray area, 606 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 4: which in football, you're caught in gray you're gonna be 607 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,719 Speaker 4: in a lot of trouble. But how do you kind 608 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 4: of see the defense being different than what you've been 609 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 4: in even last year of the years before that outside Houston. 610 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 6: I actually kind of played in a similar defense before, 611 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 6: so it wasn't really hard for me to pick up on, right, 612 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 6: But the verbiage is a little different, like the names 613 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 6: and everything, but it's still kind of the same defense. 614 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 6: So it's kind of kind of easy for me to 615 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 6: pick up on, you know what I mean, just having 616 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 6: to like, you know, just remember, you know how he 617 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 6: played it in other places, and then take you know, 618 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 6: with the coaches here are you know giving me in 619 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 6: kind of put it all together, m J. 620 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: You came into the league in twenty eighteen, which isn't 621 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: that long ago yet in football years, it's a little 622 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: bit of a slice of time there. How has your 623 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: life changed and how you approach this profession, this business 624 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: knowing that, hey, however long it last, is what it is, 625 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: and then you know there's a future beyond that. 626 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: How do you regard all of that and handle it? 627 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 5: Uh? 628 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 6: Kind of kind of I'm gonna just give a shout 629 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 6: out to Denzel Perryman because he kind of told me 630 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 6: this one day. But you know, as long as my 631 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 6: face scan works outside, I'm super. 632 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 5: Happy, you know what I mean. 633 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 6: So and it is just like that, I'm just happy 634 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 6: to still be here, you know what I mean. Just 635 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 6: you know, whatever my role is, just to make sure 636 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 6: I play that to my best ability. 637 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 4: The one thing that I think some people gloss over 638 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 4: a lot, you know, think about fantasy, think about offense, defense. 639 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 4: They don't think about special teams. But you've been an 640 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 4: absolute stalwart on special teams since you've been in the league. 641 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 4: But in particular last year, you got a fake punt 642 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 4: that you converted. Last year, you had the big hit 643 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 4: against the Chargers where you knocked the punt out m J. 644 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 4: I got a feeling that when players come to the 645 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 4: NFL and not that their only special teams. Players could 646 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 4: do a lot more than that. You've done a lot 647 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 4: more than that in your career. But when they hear 648 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 4: special teams, some guys are like, well, I don't play 649 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 4: special teams, bro, Like, that's not me. 650 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 3: I play defense or I play offense. That's it. 651 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 4: But you not only have done that, you've excelled at that. 652 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 4: Where does that kind of come from for you to 653 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 4: be such an integral part of the special teams, maybe 654 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 4: the forgotten unit, but arguably the most important units on 655 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 4: the whole team. 656 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 5: It just comes from the passion of the game. You know. 657 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 6: I'm not really a big person of you know, oh, 658 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 6: I have to play defense. And if I don't play defense, 659 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 6: like you know, some people are like, you know, if 660 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 6: they don't you know, if they're not where they want 661 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 6: to be, you know, they kind of shut down. Like me, 662 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,239 Speaker 6: like I love football so much. It's just like I 663 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 6: just like playing, you know, I like to be on 664 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 6: the field. And as long as I'm on the field, 665 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 6: whatever that may be, for however long that may be. 666 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 6: You know what I mean, I'm just gonna give it 667 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 6: the best because I just love the game. I love 668 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 6: the I love everything about the game. So it's like, 669 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 6: if you're very passionate about football, like it don't matter 670 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 6: if you play special teams, if you play defense offense, 671 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 6: it don't matter. As long as you can get on 672 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 6: the field, you know what I mean, that's the best 673 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 6: thing in the world. 674 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 3: M J. Stuart with us, MJ. 675 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: The m stance from Marvin Right, Yes, does anybody call 676 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: you Marvin? 677 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 4: No, not even when you get in trouble. 678 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 6: No, nobody, like even my mom, my dad, my grandma, 679 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 6: nobody calls me that. 680 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 1: What did they give you the MJ? Or did you 681 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: decide at some point I don't want to be Marvin. 682 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 6: So my dad actually gave me that name when I 683 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 6: was really young. Okay, so I've called MJ my whole life. 684 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 6: You know, people try to, you know, mess with me 685 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 6: and call me Marvin, Marvin k Marvin Hagler. 686 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 2: Marvin's a good name. 687 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, But but if it's not your name, then it's 688 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 4: not a bad name at all. 689 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 6: I'm not I love my name, you know what I mean, 690 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 6: But like, just nobody called Junior Junior. 691 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, my dad's name I see Marvin Jr. 692 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 5: Okay, mar my name is Marvin Stewart Jr. 693 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 2: Okay, so the j Yeah, of course, Marvin Jr. That's good. 694 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 3: MJ. 695 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 4: So you're so your DC guy come to Houston. Have 696 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 4: you adapted to the food scene in Houston? And if so, 697 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 4: what's your favorite kind of Houston cuisine? Maybe not the 698 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 4: restaurant or whatever, but your favorite Houston because you know, 699 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 4: there's so much There's Asian, there's barbecue, there's Vietnamese, so 700 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 4: many levels of Asian. I should say, text mex what's 701 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 4: your favorite kind of cheap meals sort of thing to 702 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 4: have here in Houston. 703 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 5: I'm a foodie, would lad? 704 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 3: Lets you do that, by the way, we have preface 705 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 3: everything with that. 706 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a foodie, bro. And I think like Houston. 707 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 6: I don't know why. I'm just so stuck on lamptops 708 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 6: in Houston, Like lamptops and Houston are just Wow. Everywhere 709 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 6: I've been I had good I haven't had bad lamptops. 710 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 5: In Houston yet. 711 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 3: Wow. So interesting. 712 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 5: Uh, it's is. I don't know why. 713 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 6: I don't even I really don't even like red meat, 714 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 6: to be honest, but lamptops. 715 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 5: Something about the Lamptops and Houston. 716 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 2: Does that count as yet it's close enough. 717 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 4: Where did you love a food come where the where'd 718 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,919 Speaker 4: the foody aspect come from? Is that just something over 719 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 4: time you picked up on or where. 720 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 5: I've always loved food. 721 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 6: I'm I'm like a big kid, like you know what 722 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm a safety yet two o five, you 723 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 6: know what I mean, I'm a big safety. I've just 724 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 6: always been a big kid, you know what I mean. 725 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 6: So I always love food. 726 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 3: That's awesome. J thanks a lot for being with us. 727 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 3: Good luck. 728 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you, Thank you for 729 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 5: having me. 730 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 2: And there's our conversation with m J. 731 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: Stewart and coming up, Eric Murray, let's visit with him, 732 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: and again, not much more to say, but we are shocked, saddened, 733 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: and we want our express our deepest condolences to the 734 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: family of Ryan Mallet, former Texans quarterback, who reportedly died 735 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: today at the age of thirty five, drowned on a 736 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: Florida beach and so sad. Just such shocking news today. 737 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: All right, we'll continue with the show. It's Texans Radio, 738 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: all right. Final segment on the show tonight and a 739 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: strange night indeed, with the news breaking today that former 740 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: Texans quarterback Ryan Mallett has died reportedly drowned on a 741 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: Florida beach at the age of thirty five. Also at 742 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: the Patriots, of course in the Ravens, Arkansas, Michigan before that, 743 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,240 Speaker 1: and Mallet recently accepted a job as a high school 744 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: football coach in Arkansas. He was an assistant for the 745 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: past few years and now gone. Ryan Mallet, way too 746 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: soon at the age of thirty five. Unbelievable and there's 747 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: not much more to say about it. We just wanted 748 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: to keep breaking that news as we found out ourselves 749 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: this afternoon, and I'm sure I can share on behalf 750 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: of the entire organization. We have heavy hearts at the 751 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: very least about this and all our prayers with the 752 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: Mallet family at this time. All right, let's get to 753 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: our conversation with Eric Murray, John Harris and I had 754 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,760 Speaker 1: a chance to visit with the safety at Mini Camp. Now, 755 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: I think you're the longest tenured in Texan. I'm kidding, 756 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 1: but it feels it's close. It feels like it's around 757 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: here for a while and another regime. But do you 758 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: talk to some of the younger guys, some of the 759 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: new guys about that, They ask you questions, what's it 760 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: been like? 761 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 2: I mean, you're the salty veteran. 762 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 7: Here now, I mean a little bit. But I'll try 763 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 7: to keep passing and past and move forward. I think 764 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 7: we got a good thing going here, so you know, 765 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,240 Speaker 7: want to keep it in that direction. 766 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 4: So not to get into the minute differences and such, 767 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 4: but are there differences in the defense you're running last 768 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 4: year versus this year? Verbiage all that kind of stuff, 769 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 4: and with the differences in a different scheme, like, how 770 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 4: are you kind of adapting to it? 771 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 3: And how has it been back in. 772 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 4: The second because we know you got to have communication 773 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 4: back there with coverage, what you're looking at all that? 774 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 3: How's that kind of gone early on? 775 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 7: Eric, I mean early on this it's been pretty good. 776 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 7: I think, Uh for a guy like me, like I've 777 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 7: been around a few systems, so you see, Yeah, the 778 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 7: verbage is a little different, but the players are, you know, 779 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 7: generally the same. You're gonna have the same elements in 780 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 7: the defense and that's really never gonna change. So just 781 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 7: knowing the verbage and who you're talking to on the field, 782 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 7: you know that'll take some time, and that's what this 783 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 7: period is for. 784 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 3: Eric. 785 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: Coaches feel like they can rely on you. They know 786 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: what you're gonna bring to the table. Describe that to us. 787 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 1: What do you feel like you contribute here, especially as 788 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: a pillar when you look at some of the new players, 789 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: young players, maybe. 790 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 3: Some of the undrafted guys, even. 791 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 7: Just the sound voice, consistency, you know what I'm doing. 792 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 7: I'm do the same thing every day and I ring 793 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 7: my hardhead and work and I think, uh, that's been 794 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 7: part of the reason why I've stayed around for so long. 795 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 7: And it's just you know, been the main stand in 796 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 7: the league. So that's just my bread and butter, and 797 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 7: that's what I'm gonna stick to. 798 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 4: You talk you talk about during we were talking before 799 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 4: we talked here, Eric, and going back to your hometown 800 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 4: Milwaukee and doing a football camp. There's a lot of 801 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 4: reasons for doing it, but what was the main reason 802 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 4: for you want to do that camp back in Milwaukee? 803 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 7: Just because it's you know, it's been so good to 804 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 7: me and it you know, made me who I am 805 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 7: and just being around those people and giving back to 806 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,280 Speaker 7: the community. That's something I really want to do because 807 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 7: I haven't done it since I'm in the league, so 808 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 7: I really want to get that done this year. 809 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 3: And you get that started back in Milwaukee. 810 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 4: Your hometown, was that where you're gonna go for the 811 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 4: break where you got played for the break outside of 812 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 4: the camp? Uh? 813 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 7: Probably take my family to New York. I got two 814 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 7: kids and a wife just got married. Oh wow, so yeah, 815 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 7: I appreciate that. 816 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,280 Speaker 3: Wow, congratulations. 817 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 7: So just want to, you know, go to New York 818 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 7: for a couple of days, see some things, shop a little. 819 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 3: Bit outside of playing. Have you been there much? 820 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 4: No? 821 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 7: I probably went one time. 822 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 5: I was in eighth grade. I was in choir. 823 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 3: So what were you doing in New York at the choir? 824 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:52,720 Speaker 3: So performing? 825 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was Uh, we did a choir trip in 826 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,919 Speaker 7: eighth grade from my middle school. So we went, did 827 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 7: some singing, went to go see a Broadway play Stump. 828 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 5: Oh. 829 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, met most deaf walking around, met him, went to 830 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 7: a Knicks game, met uh Rampage Jackson when he was real. 831 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 5: Yeah. 832 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so we had a good time. We had 833 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 3: a good time. Man, that's half an eighth grade trip. 834 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: I've seen the UFC and I've seen Stomp as well. 835 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 3: That was pretty good. 836 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was good and we went to see Mama Mia. Okay, 837 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 7: we had a good time. 838 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: That is good, all right, So how is the wedding? 839 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: Everything goes smoothly. It wasn't really a big wedding. We 840 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: didn't do a big ceremony. We just kind of we've 841 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: been together for a long time, so you know, we 842 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 1: just got our papers right and did a little ceremony 843 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: amongst ourselves. 844 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 3: That was That was smart. 845 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: That's the state of money fest thing you could do. 846 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: She but that all depends on the bride, right, She's 847 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 1: got to be you for that. If she's not up 848 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:47,959 Speaker 1: for that, it's not happening, well. 849 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 3: Then she's the right bride. If she is up for that. 850 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 4: If she got to New York, we need a destination 851 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,879 Speaker 4: wedding and we're doing this, then it's like, I don't know, 852 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 4: not sure. So okay, this isn't neither I got it 853 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 4: either for you. Okay, So you say you have kids 854 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 4: and you just got married. Emergency comes up. You and 855 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 4: your wife got to go somewhere, but you can't take 856 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 4: the kids. Who makes for a better emergency babysitter either 857 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 4: Jalen Petrie or Jimmy Ward. 858 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 7: Jalen Petrie really, yeah, yeah, Jimmy. Jimmy a little rambunctious, 859 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 7: so he moved around a lot. Jalen, Actually he's a homebody, like, 860 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 7: he don't do a lot right on the weekends, he'd 861 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 7: like to stay around his family and you know, do 862 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 7: stuff like they coach the AAU basketball team. So I 863 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 7: know he'll he'll stay in one place. 864 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 5: I gotcha. 865 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 3: That's a good answer. That's a good answer. 866 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: Actually, what what have you learned about Houston over your 867 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: time here? Because you're not from here, but like we say, 868 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: you got here as fast as you could, So what 869 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: have you What are your impressions like after being here 870 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: for a few seasons. 871 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 7: Well, I love the food, I love the diversity, and 872 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 7: just if I don't even know, I've been to Dallas 873 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 7: and I've been to Austin, and I can tell you 874 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 7: that I love Houston the most out of those ones. 875 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 7: You know, people they like to compare, but I think 876 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 7: Houston has really has everything you need and you can 877 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 7: find it in different pockets of the city. 878 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 5: So I really love that aspect about it too. 879 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 3: Okay, you talk about food, so cheat meal. 880 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 4: I know Lad's got you guys on lock like all 881 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 4: the time, but every now and again, you can get 882 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,760 Speaker 4: your cheat meal. Yep, you're picking either barbecue or text 883 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 4: mex Barbecue. 884 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 3: Definitely barbaricue. 885 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 2: Yah, all right, that's the right choice every time. 886 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 3: Eric thanks a lot for joining us. 887 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 5: I like to you thank you. All right. 888 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: There's our visit with Eric Murray and it's been a 889 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: show where we had a lot of things planned, we 890 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 1: did a lot of things, and we also express our condolences, 891 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: our deepest sympathy to the family of Ryan Mallet, who 892 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: passed away today, reportedly at the age of thirty five 893 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: after drowning out of Florida Beach. And Mallet played for 894 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: the Texans in twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen, and we 895 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: just wanted to say rest in peace, Ryan. 896 00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 5: All right. 897 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: That's going to do it for the show tonight. This 898 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 1: show will be up on podcasts soon enough, and we'll 899 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: be back tomorrow with more. It's Texans Radio.