WEBVTT - Tony Dorsett on his 99-yd TD run, being in select Heisman Trophy & Hall of Fame group, and being a grandpa 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:18.040 What was the control player of Second Acts podcast. I'm 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:22.080 Peanut Tillman, and as always I got my guy, Roman Deacon. 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:25.280 That's that's like the that's the same Roman Deacon Harror. 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.920 I appreciate that, Peanut. Look. I don't know if it's 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:31.760 a compliment or a scary start to the morning. But 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:34.559 now our guest today has already told us that we 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:36.640 kind of looked like and I don't know, that's the 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:38.879 first time I've ever heard that. I was like, I 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:40.920 think we've been hanging out a lot together. That's maybe 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:47.280 that's what it is, my old road here. It's a 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:48.879 great boy, it's a great start, all right. I want 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:50.159 to come out first of all, because we went to 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:52.760 you up right in Our guest today is uh. I 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:54.279 don't want to hold him up too much, and he's 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.800 fired up. He's gonna be great laughs and already give 0:00:56.880 --> 0:01:00.200 us a great personality in conversation this morning. So before 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:01.360 we do that, I want to thank all of our 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:03.920 listeners for tuning in constantly give us a rating, a 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:06.880 review and also makes you hit that follow button and 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:09.200 tell a friend to tell a friend anywhere you listen 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:13.520 to podcasts with its Apple podcast, iHeartRadio or anywhere else 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:16.240 you listened to podcast makes you tune in to us 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:18.319 and give us a review. So thank you for that 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:20.080 and peean up when you give us the honest. So 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:23.040 who we got this morning? We are blessed with a 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:26.560 Hall of Famer, one of the greatest running backs of 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:32.240 all time, mister Tony Dorset. Welcome to the pod. So 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:35.240 I think you want to dress? I want to. I 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:36.760 didn't want to bring this up early, but we gotta 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.960 dressed the elephant in the room, all right. So, mister Tony, So, 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:44.160 I've grown up knowing you so much and revered you 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:47.520 in high, high regards because my mom, all right, my 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.920 mom and dad have been married forty some years, raised 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.320 me my love my mom and death. But she has 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:55.200 always told me since I was a little kid, and 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.520 I hope I embarrass you right here. It's two guys. 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.720 She would leave my dad for number one Kareem Abdul 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:04.200 at your bar and number two Tony Dorset. So now 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:07.840 getting to meet you finally, it isn't honor you are 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:16.280 the man, y'all. Y'all, y'all kind of looking like look 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:19.000 y'all got to say it's ever hair. Yeah, you know 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:24.320 what I'm saying you just got to bed. I'm not, 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.320 but it is. It's an awesome day. It is awesome 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:30.320 to try to put that out here. You say, I 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.440 got to meet you. So I'm gonna tell my mom 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:34.960 lay oh like and she'll be like, did you take 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:36.639 a picture to get something sign? I'm like, I don't 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:38.720 love why, but it's good. It's great. It's great to 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.560 meet your great ham. You're all of famer and you've 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.919 been retired for a while, and this podcast is really 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.560 about former players, kind of their second acts and kind 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.320 of what they're doing right now. So you've been retired 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.640 for a minute. Can I ask what have you been 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:55.840 up to lately kind of since the retirement. Take care 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:59.960 of my grandchildren? Okay, I'm doing mother boys. I got 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:03.240 my son has as a little boy, and my daughter 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:06.160 has a little boy okay, okay, and one of them Hawk, 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.680 My nickname is Hawk okay. And my son's name his 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:13.720 his his boy hockey and name and so uh, I 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.440 go with him and you know, he sports and I 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:18.720 try to keep him the curious and doing what and 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.640 do all these things. And then my daughter has a 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:25.960 little Drew. Drew is my middle name, so little little 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.760 Drew's baby, Drew, he's Drew's baby. He's one years old. 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.440 But but he just man, I just I have I 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:34.880 have so much joy. But those boys come around me. Man, 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:36.480 I just I feel like a little kid and I 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:38.080 just grew out and play with and hell good. So 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:39.920 this kind of makes you feel good though, like that 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.880 you know your kids, they they took your name and 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.080 they naming their kids out do like that legacy kind 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:48.400 of still right right carries on. Man, it's a good feeling, 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:50.800 you know. And it's and it's like, you know, with 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:54.240 my son decided to do this, you know name the 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:57.040 name is Hockey, and I'm like, why what you're doing? 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:01.000 Then you come around but heah, man get Hockey. Man. 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:03.520 He's just he's just a wonderful kid. I mean he's 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:07.760 good with school and all that stuff. And and my 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:11.520 my other grand should I mean Drew baby, Threw I 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:15.480 called it Drew baby, and he's just Papa, Papa, Papa. 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.600 He just loved me. Man, I just love it. I 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.920 just love with my grandchild. I think there's no greater 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.200 love than a grandparent with a grandchild. And I see 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.240 that with my parents. My parents are watching my kids 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.960 and I'm here right now with my wife, and it's 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.599 really funny because my dad was so hard on me, 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:33.800 and all of a sudden, I see him rolling on 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.640 the ground with my kids. I'm like, you never rolled 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:38.880 on the ground with me. Never, not one time. I 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.719 see my mom throw a football with my daughter and 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.000 I was like, I've known you my whole life. You've 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.880 never throw me a path like never? Never? One time? 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.840 Did you? Did you do these things for grandkids? Oh? Yeah, baby, 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:53.080 know what she did? And then missing? They're missing you. 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:55.080 You know he's missing. You didn't get a chance to 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:56.560 do it with you, But now they can do it 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.160 with they grandchild. You don't want to make sure they 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:02.600 get that point being before things changed for them. But 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:04.960 let's let's say that's a great thing, man, I tell you. 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.720 But then what a good thing about it all? Le 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:16.320 send them all? Yeah that's yeah, that's that's what my 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:18.560 dad said. So I don't know if you would watched 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:21.560 the honor show here today, They just inducted the newest 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:25.080 members of the INFA Hall of Fame. Um, what did 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:28.520 you think about the class? They inducted? U Zach Thomas, 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:37.520 DeMarcus Ware andree Reevers Jodelnde Barber, Joe Joe Thomas. Yeah, 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.840 I think it's I think it's a good class of players, 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:44.599 done well for themselves and years if they've played. I'm 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:46.919 not really familiar with them a whole lot of the 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:49.679 guys because you know, when when I moved away from football, 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.160 I kin moved away. They should that then. But I 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.719 still love the game. I love watching guys play. I 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.240 love them. Now do you go to the ceremony that 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:59.440 they have in canon every year or so often? Yeah? 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:03.400 You get it, man, I love putting on that, you 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.799 know jacket. That was gonna be the question. So how 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.440 often do you wear your gold jacket? Like, do you 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:11.880 ever just catch yourself in the morning, get me some 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:14.159 coffee and I'm just gonna go ahead, just put on 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:15.599 this thing and just got to sit here and watch 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:20.520 some TV yourself. You have, don't wear it out, man, 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.440 it's the household. Oh yeah, I see it, because that 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:29.440 is awesome, you know, jacket man, gonna go very well 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.600 with me, the cool man. Have you ever still anything 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:36.480 on the coach? How many goldso you get? Give you 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:38.719 You'll give you one if you if you that's a 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:40.839 great question. If you you want to get what you 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.440 get the one coach, but they will duplicate one before 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:45.400 you get if something happens to the one that you 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:48.359 have got you all right, So so give me a 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:50.920 story of what happened to the first time you messed 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.400 up your jacket probably scared you, or the first time 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:56.240 you try to stain on it or something. Oh I 0:06:56.320 --> 0:07:00.120 got real man, I was. I was like one of 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:07.560 those things. I want fight realism on my jacket, you know, 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.440 because because I'm like, man, I didn't have a dream. 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.040 I didn't even know about the Hall of Fame. But 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.600 I the kid growing up. Man, I was like, oh man, 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.680 I'm like, wait, you mess up my jacket? Man? You 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:23.920 may go boy, yeah, man, But it's it's intergreating for 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:27.760 guys to be involved. So one group of guys, you know, 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:31.360 one one guy in particular, who, as I've read and 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:33.840 read more about you and you have the special relationships 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:37.080 are over him and yeah, I know that's you. Guys. 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:40.760 He claims you as one of his heroes, his football 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:43.680 hero specifically. Could you maybe give us a little bit 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:46.440 of insight on how that relationship for him, because it's 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.120 not like nowadays where guys have social media, so they're 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:51.440 friends and they get recruited all together. How did that 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.560 relationship for him? And then how did that relationship grow 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:58.600 from there? But I think about it is h I've 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.560 always wound to be a bigger run. I wanted to 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:04.240 be a beaten back man. And and when Earl came, 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.600 because you know, obviously you go before the year Jimber, 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.040 I didn't. I wanted to wear all that cop I 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.040 didn't see CC, but I seen Earl. Man. I used 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:17.760 to watch you play against the Stews. And I grew 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:20.640 up in Pittsburgh area, Yeah, and the still curtain. Man 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:23.600 was just I was just unbelievable. And Earl was just 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:25.560 like I was like, man, how is it run through 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:27.480 these guys like this? How does he do with this? 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.200 I said, tell her? I said Earth. I said, I see, 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:33.319 let's say Earth. And why don't you that one guy 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:35.840 tackled you sometimes? I said, man, I know you think 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:37.760 this is gonna last? Man, I said, Man, you that 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:42.440 like King Colin out there just guys everything. But man, 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:46.520 that's it's a great gather. So let's talk about you 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:48.360 grew up in the still curtain, are right? You're from 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:52.080 you from Pennsylvania and uh, hope on pronounces right, Aliquippa. 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:57.960 That's it, quick the quick, So I did it? Ain't 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:03.320 like eight thousand people. It's a super right, super small town. 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:07.480 Y'all got some dolls that coming out of all equippent. 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:13.680 So is yourself your nephew that I didn't know, tyle long? 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:17.719 And then you got the real reeves all in the 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:22.040 excuse me, all in the hall of fame. My dick 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:27.320 is round. We got four. Y'all got four. Y'all got 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:31.640 four Hall of Famers in the town of like eight thousands. Yeah, yeah, small, 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:36.920 drive right through it, like through you go. What is that? 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:39.360 You got one red lay? Oh my? How much pride 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.520 do you guys taking that knowing that you guys have 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:46.520 four gold jackets. We town, we don't even have that 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:48.840 many people that's made through the NFL. Yeah, you've got 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:51.360 even closer. How do you how much pride are you 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:55.120 taking that knowing that your hometown has produced four Golden Helpers. 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.520 It's it's the whole county. I like to see it. 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:02.959 You know, we put we played there and uh what 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.400 what what be the country? Be the county? And you 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:08.480 know we had a lot of great athletes, not just 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:12.520 in football, but basketball, baseball, wrestling, all of it, you know, 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:14.679 and we took a lot of pride and from the 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.199 fact that saying, yeah, you know everybody's talking about what 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:19.760 this is what football country? This is that, and this 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.679 is that, And when you come to out of the fotball, man, 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.920 it's a steel medal. Yeah usually Still you know, man, 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.520 you see still you know it's it's nothing like that, Like, 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:30.079 I mean, how do you guys come out? How do 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.439 you think all this many football players out here? But 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:35.520 what it's not. You don't have a whole lot of 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:38.240 football fields, you don't have a whole lot of students 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:40.880 and stuff going into school. But you know, it was 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.040 just guy just took a lot of pride in themselves 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:45.800 and we we usul wished to always say, man, you 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:49.960 know we we can stand up against anybody. Oh yeah, 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:54.240 clearly clearly famous. Yeah, nobody else can say that. So 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:56.640 I want to know this one more thing too, is uh, 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:00.199 I know the game has changed. Football is not what 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.439 it was when you were playing, nor was it when 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.600 we were playing not too long ago. And the product 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.040 of football now do you still enjoy watching it? How 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:10.439 what is your love factor on the scale or so 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:14.719 whatever that is a football I'm a football guy. I 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:21.600 you know, it's it's kind of been pempered. Seems like man, 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:24.000 you know, it's like, you know, it's like man begging 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.839 the days. Man. I was like, man, the way the 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.839 boys was hitting people, yeah, and doing things that they do. 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:31.640 I mean, but there's a lot of talent out there, 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.319 but they just and it probably made it a little more, 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.439 I say, say for the guys, you know, because we 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:40.440 came back or they would hit you and they would 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:42.760 keep on hitting. You were talking about your grandson loving 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:46.360 sports and seven on seven has been a really big 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:48.920 push to like kind of take the ease off of 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:52.760 the contact with sports and football. Would you encourage your 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.640 grandson to go to play football or want to do 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:59.800 seven on seven instead of playing football with pads? Early? Man, 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:02.719 I hadn't debate all the time at all, you know, 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.000 doing I know, you know, I wanted them to play 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:10.400 the game that we played, and that's the way I 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:14.719 can only visualize football. We played. Football is physical, aggressive, 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:17.000 you know, I want to see that. I don't want 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:19.040 to take that away from it. You know, I think 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:23.520 they've done a good job with the referee, but they 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:27.160 took a lot of some of the dirtiness. You want 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:29.839 to say, yeah, and it made it safer. And I 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:32.679 think the game's contact. Man, you want to play people football, 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:39.839 you gotta you have to take a little contact. Dukes 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:44.280 later first African American named to the College Football Paul 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:48.160 of Fame. As we continue to celebrate Black History Month 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:52.679 across the league, we share the accomplishments of the past, 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:58.600 and President Dukes later overcame racial bias to earn selections 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:02.800 to both the college and Pro football hauls of Fame. 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:07.040 The tackle from Iowa was a three time All Big 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:11.679 Ten selection and All American and the first African American 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:15.959 named to the College Football Hall of Fame. In the 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:20.719 Pro rings, Slater was a five time first team All Pro. 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:25.400 Only the errors prevented discrimination checked him from being named 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:30.679 to the NFL's All Decade Team of the nineteen twenties. However, 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:34.120 he would earn his due in twenty twenty when he 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:37.600 was named to the centennial class of the Pro Football 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:55.679 Hall of Fame. So, Rome, we saw you with Earl 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:58.360 Earl Campbell. You're saying you were making your way through 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.120 radio row. I looked on. I was gonna answer, I've 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:03.680 seen you before. I know your size, your frame, little guy. 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:08.560 I did not know that I was man, not as 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:10.640 big as I thought. I thought it was so much 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:14.920 bigger there. Everybody, even when I when I was playing, 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.880 when they would see me in the off season, they're 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:22.640 like my jumping man, they didn't know I was as 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.760 small as I was. But what I did was see 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:29.200 I said, I had extra large shoulder pads. I had 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:33.720 girdle pads, have real pass, have large stop pass. I 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.880 had four months in my knee, pass my food bed, 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:39.400 run springs. Just as we tell we played, we get 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:46.680 a playa man. You know, ugly this chest. I said, yeah, 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:50.880 what I don't give it. There, ain't remit over there 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.000 trying to take me out of this. I said, I 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:55.040 got to pass it up. Bro. I mean you feel 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:56.800 like it means you think it slowed you down to 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:01.200 having all that extra of course, when you're scared, when 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:04.720 you running scared, hey there, you much don't show you down. 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.440 So so talking about not stowing you down number one, 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.880 Just what you just said, I mean, it's amazing that 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.120 a fullback tails a running back. Bro. You dressed ugly. 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:18.920 I got that. Everybody just stood on that. I'm just 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.680 saying about me, y'all said, my star was black. It 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.200 was terrible. We had a big biotic elbow braid you 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:27.920 know it snack. Guess what I didn't get a damn yeah, 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:31.360 you give a damn home. And like, I know, if 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:33.200 you know that actually didn't slow you down? Of course, 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:36.440 not tell me about this. How does it feel your 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.840 record ninety nine yard run? It can never be broken, 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.440 It can only be tied, which you has been tied before. 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:44.760 And I watched your highlight and I watched the run 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.400 number one? Is that your favorite run of all time? 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.120 And how much credit do you give your wide receiver 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:52.960 that was that Drew forgetting that blocked down there? And 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:54.120 kind of said it for you? Or did you? I 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:55.880 ain't really need him because he really did he be 0:15:56.240 --> 0:16:01.160 really didn't touch you, right. I used to tell about 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:04.360 why receivers. I said, look, you don't have to knock 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.560 him down. Get in the way and I'll do the rest. 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.400 I'll make him. I'll make him get wait why I 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:12.240 want him to be and you can get in his 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:15.560 weight and then it's old, you know. But Drew and 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:20.640 drew every long run that I have, Drew Pierson was 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:23.200 part of it. He was always one one of the 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.840 guys that's just getting in the way. I just get 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.520 it in a way, bro, I'm going from there. And 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:30.480 that play, it was just a simple die player. You 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:32.160 don't have to tell about the specifics of the play. 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:36.360 But it wasn't a fantasy play. Call now and we 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.200 you know, we only ten minute on the field. I 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:45.120 didn't know that either. I don't something if if, if 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.240 we had never met on the field, it would have 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:51.160 been our full back Ron Springs running the play. And 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:53.480 I just always did run. You think you could win 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:56.920 ninety nine yards? Man, come on back, give it the carture. Man. 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:58.800 You know you couldn't run that in that So he 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.000 turns to you don't want to He knew he wasn't in. 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.720 I mean, obviously you knew he wasn't there, right, So well, 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.680 y'all didn't want to call like a tom, but I 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:09.639 think it was he was the one that muff the 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:12.960 kick off, right, the one east, y'all whatever, And so 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:16.920 he ran off the field. And then when he heard 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.800 the play. I heard the play. I heard the play 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:22.760 being called, so we could run that with single back 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:27.680 fromish or I formix right, So Roll thought he heard 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:32.240 single back formation was jayhawk is the formation we called. 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:37.080 And so he stayed on the sideline and all the 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.800 guys are telling them. I said, get out. Think you 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:41.760 gotta run the play. You gotta run the play. A 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.960 Rollin's response to all that was like, man, you gotta 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.840 be crazy. He said, if I run out on that 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:51.320 field and we get a punality on the one each other, 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.640 he said, Tom, now you go. Couldn't be right spot 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:56.440 as he said. You know, he said he had to 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.640 And I didn't know what they said that. I thought 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:01.760 you had to have. You never met on the field, 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:03.840 so he had he had to wear with all to 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:07.080 understand that we can un play with ten. He said, 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:10.520 don't matter, and I was saying, okay, man, I'm glad 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:12.520 you did. I thought you would have got a five 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.240 fold ten. I didn't know that. No, you can't play 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.240 with ten. You just can't play with twelve. I think 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.600 that that's the rule. You can play with ten now. 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:22.680 Now one thing I think is a little bit special. Um, well, 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:25.040 I know it's special, and I didn't know it was 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:29.639 such a stat And that's your um your heisman to 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:32.600 haul community and or break rivers on your shirt right now? 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:35.399 Eight stage and uh could you tell me what's the 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:38.320 and um, what's been the most important thing for you 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:40.760 to make sure you stick around the game. You're around it, 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:44.320 and you also have this around amongst all these legends, 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:49.199 a small group of legends inside of all these grades, 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:51.720 with these uh the guys that have won a Heisman 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:54.840 and are in the Hall of Fame. It's ten of 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:59.040 you guys total throughout all of the football grades. It 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:01.800 is amazing here. How does that make you feel? Could 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:03.640 you just break all this down? And you're talking about 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:08.920 earlier likely? Yeah, yeah, you know you keep saying you 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:11.719 see said the word it makes you feel great. I say, 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:15.600 I would like all the great players, gel says George 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:17.800 Jim Brown. You can go all and on and on 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:20.800 and on about all these great players, man, quarterbacks, you 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:25.119 running backs, most most running backs, and it's like I'm like, wow, 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:31.359 that's all I said, all these big players. But I mean, sweetness, 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:34.880 well the pain come on, didn't get a high? Yeah, 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:38.800 just like I would saying. Now right there, I say, man, God, 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:41.600 I said, when you when you look at it, when 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:45.280 you think about it, you said, damn, you know because 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:49.560 you did sometimes especially Yeah. Yeah, so you guys are 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:53.720 doing a perfect ten documentary and it's through the NFL 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:58.359 Films production about you ten guys who have won the 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:01.679 Heisman and all show in the Hall of Fame. Now, 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:04.920 um it airs you out the month of February on 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:07.000 the FS one. We're gonna make sure everybody tunes in 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:09.920 for that support these great gentlemen who have been stewards 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:12.520 of the game that we've all grown up watching and 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:16.080 just don't know how legendary they are until they get 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:18.680 into this uh special community that you guys are. You 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:23.399 know this it caught me. It's kind of chocolate. You know, 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:26.359 It's like it made me feel a little good because 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:29.920 everything everybody when I was playing, you know, they're like, man, 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:31.800 you chose small man. You know how you do this? 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:35.480 I say? I said, man, I said, look then, piece 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:37.639 of leather, well put together. Don't you worry about you 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:43.160 just try to cutch tied. We all put saying it again, 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:45.960 pive this piece of leather we all put together, We 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:49.800 all put together. Yeah, that's that's you know, he said 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:52.040 that a lot of guys that oh yeah, you know, 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:57.080 he said. I said, Okay, see, I'll see you. I'll 0:20:57.080 --> 0:20:59.080 see you next time. Let's see, let's see what you're 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:01.639 gonna do the questions We'd like to ask a lot 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:03.880 of the guests I come on the show, is if 0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:08.000 there was a mount Rushmore of people that have had 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:13.680 influence or mentor or just some positive output on your life, 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:16.320 who would those people be? We we we we We've 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:18.840 done our a few times. If you had to pick 0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:22.440 your mount rushmore or four people, who would those four 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:28.439 people be? Four older Ruthers? There was there was, There 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:32.720 was Melvin was earnest. There was Tyrone, who was the 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:35.720 one that that I was. I was old enough at 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:37.720 time to see him put it. And there was keying. 0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:42.200 And the thing is I always wanted to be like 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:47.320 my brothers. My brothers were exceptional athletes in high school. 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:50.879 None of them went off to college. But and that 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:53.960 was one thing they all pitched then and say you're 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:56.639 not gonna make this mist people. You're going to college, right, 0:21:56.800 --> 0:21:58.920 you know. But they wented too with jan had to 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:02.720 steal meld in the area. And I was like, man, wow, 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:06.680