1 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: What was the control player of Second Acts podcast. I'm 2 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: Peanut Tillman, and as always I got my guy, Roman Deacon. 3 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: That's that's like the that's the same Roman Deacon Harror. 4 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, Peanut. Look. I don't know if it's 5 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: a compliment or a scary start to the morning. But 6 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: now our guest today has already told us that we 7 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: kind of looked like and I don't know, that's the 8 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: first time I've ever heard that. I was like, I 9 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: think we've been hanging out a lot together. That's maybe 10 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: that's what it is, my old road here. It's a 11 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: great boy, it's a great start, all right. I want 12 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: to come out first of all, because we went to 13 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: you up right in Our guest today is uh. I 14 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: don't want to hold him up too much, and he's 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: fired up. He's gonna be great laughs and already give 16 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: us a great personality in conversation this morning. 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We are blessed with a 26 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, one of the greatest running backs of 27 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: all time, mister Tony Dorset. Welcome to the pod. So 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: I think you want to dress? I want to. I 29 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: didn't want to bring this up early, but we gotta 30 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: dressed the elephant in the room, all right. So, mister Tony, So, 31 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: I've grown up knowing you so much and revered you 32 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: in high, high regards because my mom, all right, my 33 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: mom and dad have been married forty some years, raised 34 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: me my love my mom and death. But she has 35 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: always told me since I was a little kid, and 36 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: I hope I embarrass you right here. It's two guys. 37 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: She would leave my dad for number one Kareem Abdul 38 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: at your bar and number two Tony Dorset. So now 39 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: getting to meet you finally, it isn't honor you are 40 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: the man, y'all. Y'all, y'all kind of looking like look 41 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: y'all got to say it's ever hair. Yeah, you know 42 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying you just got to bed. I'm not, 43 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: but it is. It's an awesome day. It is awesome 44 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: to try to put that out here. You say, I 45 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: got to meet you. So I'm gonna tell my mom 46 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: lay oh like and she'll be like, did you take 47 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: a picture to get something sign? I'm like, I don't 48 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: love why, but it's good. It's great. It's great to 49 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: meet your great ham. You're all of famer and you've 50 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: been retired for a while, and this podcast is really 51 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: about former players, kind of their second acts and kind 52 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: of what they're doing right now. So you've been retired 53 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: for a minute. Can I ask what have you been 54 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: up to lately kind of since the retirement. Take care 55 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: of my grandchildren? Okay, I'm doing mother boys. I got 56 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: my son has as a little boy, and my daughter 57 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: has a little boy okay, okay, and one of them Hawk, 58 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: My nickname is Hawk okay. And my son's name his 59 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: his his boy hockey and name and so uh, I 60 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: go with him and you know, he sports and I 61 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: try to keep him the curious and doing what and 62 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: do all these things. And then my daughter has a 63 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: little Drew. Drew is my middle name, so little little 64 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: Drew's baby, Drew, he's Drew's baby. He's one years old. 65 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: But but he just man, I just I have I 66 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: have so much joy. But those boys come around me. Man, 67 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: I just I feel like a little kid and I 68 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: just grew out and play with and hell good. So 69 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: this kind of makes you feel good though, like that 70 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: you know your kids, they they took your name and 71 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: they naming their kids out do like that legacy kind 72 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: of still right right carries on. Man, it's a good feeling, 73 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: you know. And it's and it's like, you know, with 74 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: my son decided to do this, you know name the 75 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: name is Hockey, and I'm like, why what you're doing? 76 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: Then you come around but heah, man get Hockey. Man. 77 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: He's just he's just a wonderful kid. I mean he's 78 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: good with school and all that stuff. And and my 79 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: my other grand should I mean Drew baby, Threw I 80 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: called it Drew baby, and he's just Papa, Papa, Papa. 81 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: He just loved me. Man, I just love it. I 82 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: just love with my grandchild. I think there's no greater 83 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: love than a grandparent with a grandchild. And I see 84 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: that with my parents. My parents are watching my kids 85 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: and I'm here right now with my wife, and it's 86 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: really funny because my dad was so hard on me, 87 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I see him rolling on 88 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: the ground with my kids. I'm like, you never rolled 89 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: on the ground with me. Never, not one time. I 90 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: see my mom throw a football with my daughter and 91 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: I was like, I've known you my whole life. You've 92 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: never throw me a path like never? Never? One time? 93 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: Did you? Did you do these things for grandkids? Oh? Yeah, baby, 94 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: know what she did? And then missing? They're missing you. 95 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: You know he's missing. You didn't get a chance to 96 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: do it with you, But now they can do it 97 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: with they grandchild. You don't want to make sure they 98 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: get that point being before things changed for them. But 99 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: let's let's say that's a great thing, man, I tell you. 100 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: But then what a good thing about it all? Le 101 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: send them all? Yeah that's yeah, that's that's what my 102 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: dad said. So I don't know if you would watched 103 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: the honor show here today, They just inducted the newest 104 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: members of the INFA Hall of Fame. Um, what did 105 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: you think about the class? They inducted? U Zach Thomas, 106 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Ware andree Reevers Jodelnde Barber, Joe Joe Thomas. Yeah, 107 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a good class of players, 108 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: done well for themselves and years if they've played. I'm 109 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: not really familiar with them a whole lot of the 110 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 1: guys because you know, when when I moved away from football, 111 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: I kin moved away. They should that then. But I 112 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: still love the game. I love watching guys play. I 113 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: love them. Now do you go to the ceremony that 114 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: they have in canon every year or so often? Yeah? 115 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: You get it, man, I love putting on that, you 116 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 1: know jacket. That was gonna be the question. So how 117 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: often do you wear your gold jacket? Like, do you 118 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: ever just catch yourself in the morning, get me some 119 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: coffee and I'm just gonna go ahead, just put on 120 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: this thing and just got to sit here and watch 121 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: some TV yourself. You have, don't wear it out, man, 122 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: it's the household. Oh yeah, I see it, because that 123 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: is awesome, you know, jacket man, gonna go very well 124 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: with me, the cool man. Have you ever still anything 125 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: on the coach? How many goldso you get? Give you 126 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: You'll give you one if you if you that's a 127 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: great question. If you you want to get what you 128 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: get the one coach, but they will duplicate one before 129 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: you get if something happens to the one that you 130 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: have got you all right, So so give me a 131 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: story of what happened to the first time you messed 132 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: up your jacket probably scared you, or the first time 133 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: you try to stain on it or something. Oh I 134 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: got real man, I was. I was like one of 135 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: those things. I want fight realism on my jacket, you know, 136 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: because because I'm like, man, I didn't have a dream. 137 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: I didn't even know about the Hall of Fame. But 138 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: I the kid growing up. Man, I was like, oh man, 139 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, you mess up my jacket? Man? You 140 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: may go boy, yeah, man, But it's it's intergreating for 141 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: guys to be involved. So one group of guys, you know, 142 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: one one guy in particular, who, as I've read and 143 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: read more about you and you have the special relationships 144 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: are over him and yeah, I know that's you. Guys. 145 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: He claims you as one of his heroes, his football 146 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: hero specifically. Could you maybe give us a little bit 147 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: of insight on how that relationship for him, because it's 148 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: not like nowadays where guys have social media, so they're 149 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: friends and they get recruited all together. How did that 150 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: relationship for him? And then how did that relationship grow 151 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: from there? But I think about it is h I've 152 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: always wound to be a bigger run. I wanted to 153 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: be a beaten back man. And and when Earl came, 154 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: because you know, obviously you go before the year Jimber, 155 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: I didn't. I wanted to wear all that cop I 156 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: didn't see CC, but I seen Earl. Man. I used 157 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: to watch you play against the Stews. And I grew 158 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: up in Pittsburgh area, Yeah, and the still curtain. Man 159 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: was just I was just unbelievable. And Earl was just 160 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: like I was like, man, how is it run through 161 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: these guys like this? How does he do with this? 162 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: I said, tell her? I said Earth. I said, I see, 163 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: let's say Earth. And why don't you that one guy 164 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: tackled you sometimes? I said, man, I know you think 165 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: this is gonna last? Man, I said, Man, you that 166 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: like King Colin out there just guys everything. But man, 167 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: that's it's a great gather. So let's talk about you 168 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: grew up in the still curtain, are right? You're from 169 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: you from Pennsylvania and uh, hope on pronounces right, Aliquippa. 170 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: That's it, quick the quick, So I did it? Ain't 171 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: like eight thousand people. It's a super right, super small town. 172 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: Y'all got some dolls that coming out of all equippent. 173 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: So is yourself your nephew that I didn't know, tyle long? 174 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 1: And then you got the real reeves all in the 175 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: excuse me, all in the hall of fame. My dick 176 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: is round. We got four. Y'all got four. Y'all got 177 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: four Hall of Famers in the town of like eight thousands. Yeah, yeah, small, 178 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: drive right through it, like through you go. What is that? 179 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: You got one red lay? Oh my? How much pride 180 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: do you guys taking that knowing that you guys have 181 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: four gold jackets. We town, we don't even have that 182 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: many people that's made through the NFL. Yeah, you've got 183 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: even closer. How do you how much pride are you 184 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: taking that knowing that your hometown has produced four Golden Helpers. 185 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: It's it's the whole county. I like to see it. 186 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: You know, we put we played there and uh what 187 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: what what be the country? Be the county? And you 188 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: know we had a lot of great athletes, not just 189 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: in football, but basketball, baseball, wrestling, all of it, you know, 190 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: and we took a lot of pride and from the 191 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: fact that saying, yeah, you know everybody's talking about what 192 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: this is what football country? This is that, and this 193 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: is that, And when you come to out of the fotball, man, 194 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: it's a steel medal. Yeah usually Still you know, man, 195 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: you see still you know it's it's nothing like that, Like, 196 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: I mean, how do you guys come out? How do 197 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: you think all this many football players out here? But 198 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: what it's not. You don't have a whole lot of 199 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: football fields, you don't have a whole lot of students 200 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: and stuff going into school. But you know, it was 201 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: just guy just took a lot of pride in themselves 202 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: and we we usul wished to always say, man, you 203 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: know we we can stand up against anybody. Oh yeah, 204 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: clearly clearly famous. Yeah, nobody else can say that. So 205 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: I want to know this one more thing too, is uh, 206 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: I know the game has changed. Football is not what 207 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: it was when you were playing, nor was it when 208 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: we were playing not too long ago. And the product 209 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: of football now do you still enjoy watching it? How 210 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: what is your love factor on the scale or so 211 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 1: whatever that is a football I'm a football guy. I 212 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's kind of been pempered. Seems like man, 213 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's like, you know, it's like man begging 214 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: the days. Man. I was like, man, the way the 215 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 1: boys was hitting people, yeah, and doing things that they do. 216 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: I mean, but there's a lot of talent out there, 217 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: but they just and it probably made it a little more, 218 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: I say, say for the guys, you know, because we 219 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: came back or they would hit you and they would 220 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: keep on hitting. You were talking about your grandson loving 221 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: sports and seven on seven has been a really big 222 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: push to like kind of take the ease off of 223 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: the contact with sports and football. Would you encourage your 224 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: grandson to go to play football or want to do 225 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: seven on seven instead of playing football with pads? Early? Man, 226 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 1: I hadn't debate all the time at all, you know, 227 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: doing I know, you know, I wanted them to play 228 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: the game that we played, and that's the way I 229 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 1: can only visualize football. We played. Football is physical, aggressive, 230 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: you know, I want to see that. I don't want 231 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: to take that away from it. You know, I think 232 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: they've done a good job with the referee, but they 233 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: took a lot of some of the dirtiness. You want 234 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 1: to say, yeah, and it made it safer. And I 235 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: think the game's contact. Man, you want to play people football, 236 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: you gotta you have to take a little contact. Dukes 237 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: later first African American named to the College Football Paul 238 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: of Fame. As we continue to celebrate Black History Month 239 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: across the league, we share the accomplishments of the past, 240 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: and President Dukes later overcame racial bias to earn selections 241 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: to both the college and Pro football hauls of Fame. 242 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: The tackle from Iowa was a three time All Big 243 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: Ten selection and All American and the first African American 244 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: named to the College Football Hall of Fame. In the 245 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 1: Pro rings, Slater was a five time first team All Pro. 246 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: Only the errors prevented discrimination checked him from being named 247 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: to the NFL's All Decade Team of the nineteen twenties. However, 248 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: he would earn his due in twenty twenty when he 249 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: was named to the centennial class of the Pro Football 250 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. So, Rome, we saw you with Earl 251 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: Earl Campbell. You're saying you were making your way through 252 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: radio row. I looked on. I was gonna answer, I've 253 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: seen you before. I know your size, your frame, little guy. 254 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: I did not know that I was man, not as 255 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: big as I thought. I thought it was so much 256 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: bigger there. Everybody, even when I when I was playing, 257 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: when they would see me in the off season, they're 258 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: like my jumping man, they didn't know I was as 259 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: small as I was. But what I did was see 260 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: I said, I had extra large shoulder pads. I had 261 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: girdle pads, have real pass, have large stop pass. I 262 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: had four months in my knee, pass my food bed, 263 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: run springs. Just as we tell we played, we get 264 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: a playa man. You know, ugly this chest. I said, yeah, 265 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: what I don't give it. There, ain't remit over there 266 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: trying to take me out of this. I said, I 267 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: got to pass it up. Bro. I mean you feel 268 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: like it means you think it slowed you down to 269 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: having all that extra of course, when you're scared, when 270 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: you running scared, hey there, you much don't show you down. 271 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: So so talking about not stowing you down number one, 272 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: Just what you just said, I mean, it's amazing that 273 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: a fullback tails a running back. Bro. You dressed ugly. 274 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: I got that. Everybody just stood on that. I'm just 275 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: saying about me, y'all said, my star was black. It 276 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: was terrible. We had a big biotic elbow braid you 277 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: know it snack. Guess what I didn't get a damn yeah, 278 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: you give a damn home. And like, I know, if 279 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: you know that actually didn't slow you down? Of course, 280 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: not tell me about this. How does it feel your 281 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: record ninety nine yard run? It can never be broken, 282 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: It can only be tied, which you has been tied before. 283 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: And I watched your highlight and I watched the run 284 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: number one? Is that your favorite run of all time? 285 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: And how much credit do you give your wide receiver 286 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: that was that Drew forgetting that blocked down there? And 287 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: kind of said it for you? Or did you? I 288 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: ain't really need him because he really did he be 289 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: really didn't touch you, right. I used to tell about 290 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: why receivers. I said, look, you don't have to knock 291 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: him down. Get in the way and I'll do the rest. 292 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: I'll make him. I'll make him get wait why I 293 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: want him to be and you can get in his 294 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: weight and then it's old, you know. But Drew and 295 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: drew every long run that I have, Drew Pierson was 296 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: part of it. He was always one one of the 297 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: guys that's just getting in the way. I just get 298 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: it in a way, bro, I'm going from there. And 299 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: that play, it was just a simple die player. You 300 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: don't have to tell about the specifics of the play. 301 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: But it wasn't a fantasy play. Call now and we 302 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: you know, we only ten minute on the field. I 303 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: didn't know that either. I don't something if if, if 304 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: we had never met on the field, it would have 305 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: been our full back Ron Springs running the play. And 306 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: I just always did run. You think you could win 307 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: ninety nine yards? Man, come on back, give it the carture. Man. 308 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: You know you couldn't run that in that So he 309 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: turns to you don't want to He knew he wasn't in. 310 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you knew he wasn't there, right, So well, 311 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: y'all didn't want to call like a tom, but I 312 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: think it was he was the one that muff the 313 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: kick off, right, the one east, y'all whatever, And so 314 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: he ran off the field. And then when he heard 315 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: the play. I heard the play. I heard the play 316 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: being called, so we could run that with single back 317 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: fromish or I formix right, So Roll thought he heard 318 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: single back formation was jayhawk is the formation we called. 319 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: And so he stayed on the sideline and all the 320 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: guys are telling them. I said, get out. Think you 321 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: gotta run the play. You gotta run the play. A 322 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: Rollin's response to all that was like, man, you gotta 323 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: be crazy. He said, if I run out on that 324 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: field and we get a punality on the one each other, 325 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: he said, Tom, now you go. Couldn't be right spot 326 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: as he said. You know, he said he had to 327 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: And I didn't know what they said that. I thought 328 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: you had to have. You never met on the field, 329 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: so he had he had to wear with all to 330 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: understand that we can un play with ten. He said, 331 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: don't matter, and I was saying, okay, man, I'm glad 332 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: you did. I thought you would have got a five 333 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: fold ten. I didn't know that. No, you can't play 334 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: with ten. You just can't play with twelve. I think 335 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: that that's the rule. You can play with ten now. 336 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: Now one thing I think is a little bit special. Um, well, 337 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: I know it's special, and I didn't know it was 338 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: such a stat And that's your um your heisman to 339 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: haul community and or break rivers on your shirt right now? 340 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: Eight stage and uh could you tell me what's the 341 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: and um, what's been the most important thing for you 342 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: to make sure you stick around the game. You're around it, 343 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: and you also have this around amongst all these legends, 344 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: a small group of legends inside of all these grades, 345 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: with these uh the guys that have won a Heisman 346 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: and are in the Hall of Fame. It's ten of 347 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: you guys total throughout all of the football grades. It 348 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: is amazing here. How does that make you feel? Could 349 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: you just break all this down? And you're talking about 350 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: earlier likely? Yeah, yeah, you know you keep saying you 351 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 1: see said the word it makes you feel great. I say, 352 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: I would like all the great players, gel says George 353 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: Jim Brown. You can go all and on and on 354 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: and on about all these great players, man, quarterbacks, you 355 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: running backs, most most running backs, and it's like I'm like, wow, 356 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: that's all I said, all these big players. But I mean, sweetness, 357 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: well the pain come on, didn't get a high? Yeah, 358 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: just like I would saying. Now right there, I say, man, God, 359 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: I said, when you when you look at it, when 360 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: you think about it, you said, damn, you know because 361 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: you did sometimes especially Yeah. Yeah, so you guys are 362 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: doing a perfect ten documentary and it's through the NFL 363 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: Films production about you ten guys who have won the 364 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: Heisman and all show in the Hall of Fame. Now, 365 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: um it airs you out the month of February on 366 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: the FS one. We're gonna make sure everybody tunes in 367 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: for that support these great gentlemen who have been stewards 368 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: of the game that we've all grown up watching and 369 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: just don't know how legendary they are until they get 370 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: into this uh special community that you guys are. You 371 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: know this it caught me. It's kind of chocolate. You know, 372 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: It's like it made me feel a little good because 373 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: everything everybody when I was playing, you know, they're like, man, 374 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: you chose small man. You know how you do this? 375 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: I say? I said, man, I said, look then, piece 376 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: of leather, well put together. Don't you worry about you 377 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: just try to cutch tied. We all put saying it again, 378 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: pive this piece of leather we all put together, We 379 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: all put together. Yeah, that's that's you know, he said 380 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: that a lot of guys that oh yeah, you know, 381 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: he said. I said, Okay, see, I'll see you. I'll 382 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: see you next time. Let's see, let's see what you're 383 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: gonna do the questions We'd like to ask a lot 384 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: of the guests I come on the show, is if 385 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: there was a mount Rushmore of people that have had 386 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: influence or mentor or just some positive output on your life, 387 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: who would those people be? We we we we We've 388 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: done our a few times. If you had to pick 389 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: your mount rushmore or four people, who would those four 390 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: people be? Four older Ruthers? There was there was, There 391 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: was Melvin was earnest. There was Tyrone, who was the 392 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: one that that I was. I was old enough at 393 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: time to see him put it. And there was keying. 394 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: And the thing is I always wanted to be like 395 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: my brothers. My brothers were exceptional athletes in high school. 396 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: None of them went off to college. But and that 397 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: was one thing they all pitched then and say you're 398 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: not gonna make this mist people. You're going to college, right, 399 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: you know. But they wented too with jan had to 400 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: steal meld in the area. And I was like, man, wow, 401 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: but I seen my brothers, man, my mother. So the 402 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: original TV as I called him, Tyrone, I had never 403 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: seen anybody but the ball like you. And you know, 404 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: I was just trying to be like my brothers. Yea, 405 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: they motivated and that was the best example you had 406 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: growing up. It's like, man, I want to just be 407 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: like them. And you don't know where that will take you. 408 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: It's amazing when you talk to people about seven goals 409 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: things like that and you don't know what. You don't know, Jacually, man, 410 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: and you know, I was like going to college and 411 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm about to college. All these colleges is coming in 412 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: recruited me, and I'm like, wow, man, I got it, 413 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: I got it, I got it. I guess I got 414 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: what it takes to play at the higher level. And 415 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: so man, I was I because my brothers, my mom 416 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: and dad. Man, it was just everybody was just it. 417 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: It was almost like a party. That's a great feeling. 418 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: That's gotta be a great feeling. And are you the 419 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: youngest of I'm the youngest of five boys. I'm the 420 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: sixth of seven child. I have a younger sister. The 421 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 1: first one was the girl. The girl, and we had 422 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: the five boys. I don't know, y'all. Just house was 423 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: just a Tornados tam growing up in my burning drive, 424 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: which is its projects, you know. So we we stayed 425 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: pretty bus and you're talking about that going down and 426 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: playing playing as a youngster, we used to go, we 427 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: used to break going the chants and for you to 428 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: get into the yeah it's okay, and we put tack 429 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: on football and people just and that's why they would 430 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: say man. And that's how they said, man, how you 431 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: get some quick and how you can do this? And 432 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm always I was gifted without man. When you played 433 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: on concrete and we played the street to tackle football 434 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: and you get hit, you fall on that cur a 435 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: couple of times. You don't want to hit that curve. Room. Yeah, yeah, 436 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: so that's that's what got me, got me a golden vic. 437 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: How many times did you leave some skin on that concrete? Brot? 438 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: But I put the pretty left. I left pretty together 439 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: and my younger years once I got into older brother. 440 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: Once you, like I say, once you follow on that 441 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: curve your ribs, you figure out the way, you figure 442 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: something out. Similar story. We played in Chicago, but we 443 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: played the street and we had cars. So you're throwing 444 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, you play on one way street down, pass 445 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,959 Speaker 1: it on. You're just trying not to run into the car. 446 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, it end so well. Yes, well we'll tell me. 447 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: This is my last question for you man, could you 448 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: feel the black form? We like to ask all. I 449 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: guess this as well. Um, my name is Tony Dorset. 450 00:24:54,359 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: In my life right now is wonderful. I Uh with 451 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: my family and my wife and my daughters, my son 452 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: and my grandsons. Uh, that's what I'm all about. I 453 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: love my family and being brought up with four older brothers, 454 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: older sisters, with seven of us and just family family, 455 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: and that was the thing that motivated me as as 456 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: a kid. When I was playing ball, I would always 457 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: look up. The first thing I would do was look 458 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: up in the stands and see with my mom and dad, 459 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: we're seeing yeah. And I would always wait to him 460 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: and I was say, my older brothers were checking me out, 461 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: you know, and it was like, oh, man, David, David 462 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: Alfred's critique me. But I wanted that kind of stuff 463 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: and I wanted to be with my family kind of 464 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: brought us all together and all that. So that was 465 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: that was my whole deal. And as a kid, but 466 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: I never dreamed that I was gonna I don't know 467 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: the guy man. When I was I went to college. 468 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: That's one hundred and forty five pounds I did. I 469 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 1: wasn't did the dream. Never dreamed that I was going 470 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: to be a running back in college or even anybody 471 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: go give me a scholarship, and so man I was. 472 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: I was blessed. What was thissions did you play? You 473 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: always play running back? What was you like a receiver 474 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: or your dd bro? Bro? I was a mean bro 475 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: I played. I was a defender first. There isn't that bro. 476 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: Let me tell you. And I and I used to hit. Yeah, 477 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: I told you they said you though, I said you, 478 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: you gonna be the worst though, I said, And that's 479 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: angry I used to do. I used to tell what 480 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: I was to go out on that field angry. I 481 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: would people let people know that, Uh, I'm gonna show you. 482 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: I'll show you what I could do. It's like a 483 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: hundred forty pound jo I used to I used to 484 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: I used to make some impact. So its a dB. 485 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: I gotta have this question because I gotta know how 486 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: he was hit him back in the day. Dude, were 487 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: you the guy that all right, I know they see me, 488 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm still gonna try and light them up or you know, 489 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: just shodn't get him down. And then when they don't 490 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: see me, that when my till and all you no bro, no, no, no, no, 491 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: then they hadn't started. Yeah, it's changed there the offense 492 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: and run to the other side. They didn't want to 493 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: see you at all. Man, I was I was a 494 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 1: monster back. I was very strong, monster back, monster man. 495 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: I call him the moster. That's it. They called him. Yeah, 496 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: the Monster's man. I score out there man monster right 497 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: and or monster man. And they just try to come 498 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: back me until they found out saying, ah, man, you 499 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: got we gotta run. We gotta run on the quay 500 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: and can't get back that stuff that name. I had 501 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: that little man syndrome. I was just boling. I couldn't 502 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: do it. I can't do it, I said, y'all sor 503 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: And for those that don't know monster back, I know 504 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: he's talking about it's like a forty six, so it's 505 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: more like a strong sap or roverback. But whenever the 506 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: strong side is, you call it, you go send the 507 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: edge and you read anything coming downhill. Oh man, I 508 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: did not know. We'm gonna sit down, Tony said, he 509 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: is the most fired up talking about he has a 510 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: nice shout out on that is they got talking about 511 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: all the time, my monster back halls. So I want 512 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: them to have been coming back to the dark side. 513 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: Maybe you never should have laughed, so we come to 514 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: the dark side, all right. Man. Well look mister, it's 515 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: been a treatment an honor to have you on our show. Man. 516 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for blessing us, and I look 517 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: forward to Hall of Heisman FS one Aaron off through February. 518 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: Y'all check it out the Man. Thank you to all 519 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: our listeners out there, Tony Man, appreciate man, I got addressed, 520 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: elephant in the room. You called me son at one 521 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: point in time, y'all highlight all. Thank you. I just 522 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't saying thanks to all our listeners out there. Continue 523 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: to give us a like a review, UH makes you 524 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: hit follow and anyway you listen to your podcast apps, 525 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: Apple podcast, iHeartRadio. We appreciate it. 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