1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, good, all right, How you doing everyone? M Ross 2 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: Salzburg along with Jeff Fiagels and welcome to Big Blue 3 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: kick Off here on Giants dot Com. The number, as 4 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: always for you people to call is two oh one 5 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: N five one three. Again that's two oh one N 6 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: five one three and yeah, welcome. How am I doing well? 7 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what for lack of a better phrase, 8 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: you could have knocked me over with a feather, because 9 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: I didn't see Sunday night coming in any way, shape 10 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: or form. I think I was telling you. I was 11 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: sitting here Friday after practice. I was having lunch with 12 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: call Banks, and I looked at Car I says, I 13 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: gotta tell you, not only do I think the Giants 14 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna win, but I thought they were gonna win. 15 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: I'm not saying easy, but you know I thought they 16 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: were gonna win convincently and so much so. Right away, 17 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: I tweeted out, I got the Giants, no sense beating 18 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: around the bush. I said, I had the Giants winning 19 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: by the score of thirty to sixteen, and had them 20 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: scoring thirty points. Yes, I had them scoring thirty points, 21 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: no less. Uh and and you know what, I'm curious 22 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: to hear your take on it. I didn't. It wasn't 23 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: so much you know, them scoring a touchdown on a 24 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: sixty four yard touchdown with you know, minute thirty four 25 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: into the game, because that can happen. Now, it does, 26 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, suck if you're the 27 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: visiting team and it happens for the home team so early, 28 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: because that certainly does ignite the crowd and makes everything electric, 29 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: especially in that place. But but having said that, I 30 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: just I just listen the week before they faced a 31 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: foe sious, ferocious, you know defense, one of the better 32 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: teams in the league, and you know, I don't think 33 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: that could be minimized. So, you know, as far as 34 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: that goes, I just felt that they were going in 35 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: on national TV on Sunday night and instead Day laid 36 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: an egg. Well I don't know how else did describe it. Well, 37 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: they just you know, really you can't ask uh, you 38 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: you need to ask your offensive line to do a 39 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: better job. And you've got to find a way to 40 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: get the ball down field. And the only way you 41 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: can get a way to get the ball down field 42 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: is to protect um the Giants offense and Pat Shermer 43 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: and and Mike Schulan. They both tried to get protection. 44 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: They tried, they went two tights at certain jumbo they went, 45 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: they had that they had Shane Smith in there is 46 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: that as the fullback. Nothing was happening. And when I 47 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: was looking at that that game tape, there was guys 48 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: running wide open, but they just had no chance to 49 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: get to the ball. And Um, I wasn't as optimistic 50 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: as you and um I would say to Tino work 51 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: because on our pregame show, Dots had him winning by 52 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: two touchdowns, which we both all thought thought was ridiculous. 53 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: Um one of our questions was on our over under 54 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: or factor fiction was would would the Giants? Would this 55 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: game be uh four points or less? And he and 56 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: the Tino had it going two touchdowns and more for 57 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 1: the Giants, which I think that is was really kind 58 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: of crazy. But you know, this game always typically is close. 59 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: It's a rivalry game. Um these two teams, they kind 60 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: of mirrored each other in the sense that their offenses 61 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: weren't very good their offensive line. The storyline behind the 62 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: game last week was that they were both beat up 63 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: a little bit on the Dallas team was the Giants 64 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: weren't beat up they just hadn't played a lot together 65 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: and they're just still trying to figure things out. And Um, defensively, 66 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 1: the Cowboys have gotten a lot better since last year. 67 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: I mean, DeMarcus Lawrence is a stud fourteen and a 68 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: half sacks last year. You couldn't think that he was 69 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: just gonna, you know, lay an egg. And they had 70 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: a design and they executed it perfectly in some their 71 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: t switches, which we call when the tight end that 72 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: the tackle ends, they do these stunts. And then they 73 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: had Blitzer is I mean, and they had the corners 74 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: that two cornerbacks played a good game rust for the Cowboy. 75 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: They were on the receivers to a point, but like 76 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: I said, there were some times when the receivers were 77 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: open um and really bright design. They knew that they 78 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: would be cutting playing a certain coverage on one side 79 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: of the field and the other. So the bottom line 80 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: is they got a rebound. And there's nothing more you're 81 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: gonna be able to say and ask these players, because 82 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna tell you the same thing. We gotta go 83 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: back and we gotta get better. And they know that. Um. Defensively, 84 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: um not too bad when two weeks in a row 85 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: they hold the team to You know, the number that 86 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: you like on defense for US is seventeen points. They 87 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: tell you that in the in the meetings, seventeen points 88 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: on defense. If you can hold the team to seventeen, 89 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: you can expect your your offensive score eighteen to win. 90 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: And the team hasn't done that, but they did nineteen 91 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: and twenty. So it's well, well, don't forget. I mean 92 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: in the Jaguars game, one touchdown came via a deception, 93 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: So so so that's that. And and really listen, the Giant 94 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: defense has given up three touchdowns in two games, and 95 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: you know one was a late one. Uh as well, listen, 96 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: let me ask you this, Jeff, and you were here, 97 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: uh when you know, uh, you won the Super Bowl 98 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: that year they won the Super Bowl. They brought in 99 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: Steve Spagnola and it was a new defense, and as 100 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: you recall, there were horrible. They gave up eighty points 101 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: in their first two games, and then in the third game, 102 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: which was against Washington, you guys were losing seventeen three 103 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: at the half. You subsequently won the game. I believe 104 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: it was. So they were horrible, and it was the 105 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: same thing that we're here and now sky is falling. 106 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: It's it's gloom and doom, is it? You know? So 107 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: now with only the differences. Now we're talking about the 108 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: offensive line, but the world has also changed because it's 109 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: social media, it's ever anything else. Do you view it 110 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: as a similar case, Well, I think you can if 111 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I think that. You know? Um 112 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: I I look at I look at the Listen when 113 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: you talk about defense, I think the defense has played 114 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: better than the offense. We're still waiting for this Pat 115 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: Shermer offense to show us what we all expected coming 116 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: into from the off season into this season. Because really, 117 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: when you look at the weapons and the personnel that 118 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: this offense has, why haven't this team been able to 119 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: do better? I don't know. And it all comes down 120 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: to really the offensive line. But um, you know, teams, 121 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: I've behind you, it's over here. You look at the 122 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: first eight games of the schedule. Um, you go back 123 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: to oh seven and look at the first eight games 124 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: of that season. It certainly wasn't as tough as what 125 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: they're going to be facing here in the next six games. 126 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: I I we read it last week, folks will read 127 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: it again. You know you've got uh, you just got 128 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: through with Jacksonville and Dallas. Now you're at Houston home 129 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: to New Orleans, at Carolina Hope to Philly, at Atlanta 130 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: home to Washington. I mean, which one which one of those? 131 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: I mean every game is a coin flip. Well, I'll 132 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: tell you what. You know, you can only look at 133 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: the game ahead, and that's Houston. Now. Unfortunately for the Giants, 134 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: they're going to play a Houston team that's Owen two. 135 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: That's not good. Um. You know, they're playing at home, 136 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: and they're hungry just like the Giants are. And and 137 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: by the way, they have they have some good rushers 138 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 1: over there too. You know DeMarcus Uh, Lawrence is good, 139 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: Taco Charlton, all the other guys. You know, Damian Wilson 140 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: had a strip bumble. These guys. I mean you're talking 141 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: about um J J. Watt defensive player of the Year 142 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: at one point in time, Okay, um, and not to 143 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: Mr Clowney too, who doesn't clown around, no pun intendant. 144 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are very good on defense. Um. 145 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: So it's a tough it's a tough tough go and 146 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: you gotta go on the road. But you know, this 147 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: team has to look at itself in the mirror, and 148 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: I think that you know you asked me the question. 149 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: Is it something similar? I hope it is. I hope 150 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: they can come out and get a road win because 151 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: you know that season and No. Seven we want a 152 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: lot of games on the road that year, eleven of them. 153 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: Be honest with you, well, sometimes again, I'm gonna I 154 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: was gonna ask you this as a player. Sometimes when 155 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: all is not going well, and certainly it didn't go 156 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: well last week, sometimes I wonder if you're almost better 157 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: going on the road, because it's it's is the mentality, 158 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: like it's US fifty three against the rest of the world. 159 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: You know, you're in the home sometimes together. I mean, 160 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: I guess if you win, that's a good, good reason. 161 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: And if you lose, well, I think you ultimately want 162 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: to play at home because your fans are here. Um. 163 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: But you know, if it's later in the season and 164 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: you haven't won a game in nine weeks and you've come, 165 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: you gotta play at home, then it might be get 166 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: out of town. But I think at this point I 167 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: was much rather come into town and be at home 168 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: playing at oh and two uh a f C team 169 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: which the Giants don't know much about they don't get 170 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: to play this team very often. You know, you look 171 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: at the Cowboys and the Giants, those are two teams 172 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: that know each other very well. Um. When you look 173 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: at the personnel from the Giants, it's very different than 174 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: it was in the last last year. And we mentioned 175 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: that there's only nineteen players that pretty much played two 176 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: games against Dallas last year. Um, so you know, really 177 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: the whole thing with this game last week, and it 178 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: was trying to stop Ezekiel Elliott and then keeping Dak 179 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: Prescott in the pocket. Well you know what, they didn't 180 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: do both. They didn't do either of them. Um, and 181 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: they only said they played pretty decently, but um, offensively, 182 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: you gotta have a lot better. And really, now we're 183 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: gonna have to see what happens at center. You know, 184 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: John Greco is not a center by trade. He's a 185 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: guard and a tackle. Um, so we'll have to see, 186 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: you know, who can get in there, and UM, I 187 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: have his name. I need to get the roster here. Um, 188 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: the guy that they brought in, he's a center for 189 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: the San Diego Chargers. He started sixteen games for them 190 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: last year. So, um, the name is Dave. Helped me 191 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: out what's the the new center's name? Um uh smart Um, 192 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: Spencer Pole, that's where it is. Yeah, so you know, 193 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: we'll take a look and see what happens with him. 194 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: All right, two O one five one three we open 195 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: up the phone lines. Let's start today in Canton, New 196 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: York and speak with Dylan. Dylan, you're on with Russ 197 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: and Jeff. How you doing today? I'm doing well. How 198 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: are you good? What's up Dale? Um? Well, just as 199 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: you guys mentioned earlier, I was gonna discuss a little 200 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: bit of the offensive line. Um. Obviously, the first week 201 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: was a definitely big test against that Jaguars great defensive front. Um. 202 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: After seeing that game, I mean, I you know, I understood, 203 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: you know, the way the offensive line performed against a 204 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: group like that, and then last week seeing him against well, yes, 205 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: Sunday see him against Dallas. Um, I thought they'd improve 206 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: a little bit, but they almost looked like they were worse. Um. 207 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: I think I think that's a fair assessment, and that 208 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: they almost look like I think it was worse than 209 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: the week before. Yeah, and I see, you know, on 210 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: social media, like you guys were talking about earlier, a 211 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: lot of people are already you know, jumping ship or 212 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: blaming like Eli Manning, or not being mobile like they 213 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: was saying it, Deli's fault, um and the offensive line 214 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: struggling again. But Um, the way I look at it 215 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: is this, I see the offensive line kind of as 216 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: like if you think about like a house, Um, if 217 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: you you have to have a good foundation for a 218 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: house in order for it to be um structurally put 219 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: together and to be able to hold its own um. 220 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: And if you have a crack in the foundation, something 221 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: like that, and the house is liable to crumble or 222 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: something can happen. So I think of kind of like 223 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: the offensive line is your foundation of your offense. And 224 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: whether I mean, obviously there's some cracks in it this year, 225 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: um definitely on the right side. But um, without an 226 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: offensive line, I mean you can't really you can't really 227 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: run the ball, you can't pass the ball. UM. So 228 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: I mean, given Eli isn't a mobile quarterback, but I 229 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: still think that a lot of it um is based 230 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: on the offensive line. I mean, but Dylan, let me 231 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: just cut you off for a second then we'll continue 232 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: with you. You know, you bring up an interesting point. Yeah, Okay, 233 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: he's not as our old friend Bill Parcels would say, 234 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: he's not exactly Barish Nakov back there, you know, the 235 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: famous ballerina. But but having said that, did you have 236 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: to watch the Bears and and and Seahawks last night? Yeah? 237 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: Well the Seahawks offensive line stunk and you know what, 238 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: he's a pretty mobile quarterback of Russell Wilson, it didn't 239 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: do him much good. I don't care if you're mobile 240 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: or you're not mobile. Your offensive line has the block 241 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: for you. And they didn't do that for Eli. Yep, yeah, 242 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: saw that with last night with Russell Wilson. He's he's 243 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: a mobile quarterback and he was still sacked. I think 244 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: it was like six times or something like that. So 245 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: I think that shows a lot of the fans that 246 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: we're saying it's it's Eli's fault, he's not mobile. We 247 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: need a mobile quarterback, not the thing about not being 248 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're if you're a Giants fan and 249 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: you're on social media saying that it's Eli's fault because 250 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: he's not mobile, then what the heck have you been 251 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: launching the last fourteen years? Okay, um, yes, some of 252 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: it is Eli's fault, and he'll tell you that he's 253 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: you all got to play better, and he knows that. 254 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is that I will 255 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: tell you this, the coaches in the National Football League 256 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: are amazing. They they get paid very well, um, and 257 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: they are really smart. And it's game to game to 258 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: game to game adjustments that they make that are ridiculously insane. 259 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: How they can make a game plan from out of nowhere. 260 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: We'll be able to come up with some thing. Okay, 261 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: when you look at the way that the Giants, and 262 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: this is going back on Dylan's phone call, how he 263 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 1: thought that the Giants played a decent game against a 264 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: very good front seven and in the Jaguars the first game. Okay, 265 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: those coaches will take a look at that tape. They're 266 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: not gonna replicate it. They're gonna do something completely different 267 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: like the Cowboys did. If you look at the week before, 268 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: if you're watch any film from the Cowboy game, they 269 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: blitzed a little bit more than normal. Okay. Then Dallas's 270 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: first game that coaching staff talk, Marinelli went out and said, 271 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: you know what, we are going to change this whole 272 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna change our game plan and this is what 273 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna do, and we're gonna we don't think that 274 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: the Giants offensive line being how who they are, you 275 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: got a rookie at left tackle, I mean, excuse me, 276 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: a left guard. You got a right a right tackle 277 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: who's struggling, and you've got a right guard who really 278 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: I mean, the Jaguars didn't re sign him because of 279 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: they didn't think that he was that good of a player. 280 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: So we're gonna, we're gonna develop something and if you 281 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: stop it, great, But if you don't, look what's gonna happen. 282 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what happened. They got six sacks and 283 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: seven and nine t hits on Eli And I don't 284 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: care how mobile you are, if you cannot pick up 285 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: a simple stunt and a blitz in the national football 286 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: that you're gonna get your quarterback killed like they did 287 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: last week. That's what the what was really frustrating for 288 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: everybody watching. They were not listen. Any of these were 289 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: not sophisticated rushes that the Cowboys were doing. Okay, it 290 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: was just technique and assignments and mental airs when you 291 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: I would hate to have been in that room going 292 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: through mental errors on Monday morning because there was a 293 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: lot of them and they were not sophistication at all 294 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: two oh four or five? One three is the number. 295 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: Gotta remind you folks that Big Blue Kickoff Live presented 296 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: by cores Light. Download the cores Light Rewards app now 297 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: to win Amazing Giants prizes throughout this season. Let's go 298 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: back to the phones again. To one three is the number. 299 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: Let's go to Middletown and check in with Billy, Billy, 300 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: how you doing today? Hey, Ross, Hey Jos how you 301 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: doing this good? Bill? Oh? Oh? Until? I mean, uh, 302 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: I was in Dallas for the game. We got back 303 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: late last night and just kind of waking up here, 304 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: and you know, you come to the realization that we 305 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: put an entire offseason into dealing with that offensive line, 306 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: and we are all until well, I mean, you know, 307 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: I listened to Paul, I listened to Foul, I listen 308 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: to Lance, I listened to the show all all the time, John, 309 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: And you know you we keep trying to keep saying, okay, 310 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: give us another week, we need another game, we need 311 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: another practice. When how how how how far do we go? 312 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: So we kind of we're back in two more. No, 313 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: but you see what what Jeff just said, Billy. You 314 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: know he said one two more. I mean that that's 315 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: what you go you heard if you're listening earlier. We 316 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: went back to the you know when confluenta his first 317 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and Jeff was on that team. The big 318 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: thing was they brought in um, uh, Steve Spagnola, you know, 319 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: new defense and all this, and that they gave up 320 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: eighty points the defense did the first two games, which 321 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: that it had to be corrected. Uh. And instead of 322 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: being corrected, like I just said, eighty points the first 323 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: two games, then they were losing seventeen three to the 324 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: Redskins at halftime and subsequently won the games. So believe me, 325 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: it was you're right at Owen two at that point. 326 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: Believe me, if they didn't win, that game would have 327 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: been O N three. And then yeah, well I agree 328 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: with you. Well that's what keeps me hanging on right now. Yeah, 329 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: that's what keeps me hanging on. And two and we've 330 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: pulled off the biggest sports upset and sports history. That's 331 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: what's keeping me together. Fair enough, I mean, but let 332 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: listen at Owen two. You wanna what. I don't think 333 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: Owen two bothers you as much as how it became 334 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: Owen two. I don't think Oh, like Owen one didn't 335 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: kill me, because that was a great, ferocious team that 336 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: I watched. That's a very good team that got to 337 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: the a f C Championship. The Jaguars did last year. 338 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: Quite frankly, they should have won that game, and then 339 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: they opened up against the Giants and certainly took care 340 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: of business against Tom Brady this past week. So that 341 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: game didn't bother me. This game bothered me because I 342 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: thought this offensive line had a worse game than it 343 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: did in in the first week. So you're right. So 344 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: but again, it's Owen two. It's not did anybody get 345 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:44,239 Speaker 1: did anybody getta look at some post game interview? You know? Uh, 346 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: I think the bloom is off the roads there. You know, 347 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: he's talking with a reporter. I've seen him get up, 348 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: get a little chippy, get a little up, you know, 349 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: a little a little I want to say angry, but 350 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: you know he got a little a little upset with 351 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: a question, and well, like the bloom coming off the roads. Well, 352 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, and thank you for the call, Billy, 353 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: you want to know what I mean? I wanted to 354 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: be piste off after the game. They just lost. Okay, 355 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: he what he had like fourteen catches whatever the hell was, 356 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: for a grand total of eight yards. I don't want 357 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: it to be happy. I mean, he was respectful, you know. 358 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: I mean, all right, I don't know what the question. 359 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what the question was. But but what 360 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying is, I'm in that locker room every day, 361 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: every day. I haven't seen a rookie more polished and 362 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: conduct himselves better than this kid. So you want to 363 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: be a little angry after a a loss that sucked, Yeah, 364 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: I mean that's okay. Let him show a little bit 365 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: of edge and be a little angry. That's okay. And 366 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: let me tell you something. You've been in the locker 367 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: room every day. You've been around the game long enough. 368 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: You know, I've been around the game long enough. There 369 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: are some really stupid questions when people when you're around 370 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: your locker and you're gett you know, like Sequan, who's 371 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: a very popular player, the media goes right to him 372 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: and he says things over and over, over and over. 373 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: Because what happens is you, you know, as reporters, you 374 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: have to go to one locker to the other. Then 375 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: you come back. You gotta answer, and now you're gonna 376 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: ask the same questions you that the player has been 377 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: asked three or four times already, and he's sick and 378 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: tired of saying it. That's what's so great about press conferences. 379 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 1: You can get that and be done with it. But 380 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: the fact is that then all of a sudden, there 381 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: will be someone to ask the most stupid question you'll 382 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: ever hear. Well, what did you think about, um, you know, 383 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: trading jerseys with Ezekiel Elliott after the game? Like what 384 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: does that have to do with anything that happened in 385 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: the football game? And you're wasting my time asking me 386 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: stupid questions like that, And so a lot of times, yeah, 387 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: he'll get chippy because they're dumb questions, and I, you know, 388 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: I want to maybe get a shower and get on 389 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: the bus if you want to ask me about the 390 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: game and this and that that. He was also asked 391 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: about breaking the rookie record, which I thought was very 392 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: respectfully what he said, I don't care about records. We 393 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: lost the game. That to me is it means something 394 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: that the game means something to him, And that's good. 395 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: But I mean to answer the what you were asking 396 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: is that a lot of times there's questions in the 397 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: locker room. They just don't pertain to anything that is 398 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: relevant to answering it. And if you if you say 399 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: I have no comments, people are gonna do. They're gonna 400 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: be like, what did your call? You know, well, it's 401 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: the same thing sometimes, you know, the question. You know, 402 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: it could also be the same group of people asking 403 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: the same questions at the same time, and you know 404 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: it happens. But but I mean, you're right, he's very respectful, 405 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: extremely respectful, and very polished. So I mean, if he 406 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: was a little piste off, God bless him. Uh. Let's 407 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: go to Jackson, to Jersey and speak with Timothy. Hello, Timothy, 408 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: how you doing today? Bud Hi Timothy, we're here, tim 409 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: You're there, He's here, Yes, I am. How are you 410 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: doing fine? What can we do for you? A couple 411 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: of questions for you? Sure? Well, the Giants ball acquire 412 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: Jewish fence from the Owen to safety for twenty nine 413 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: third round pick im at the you know, let's thanks, 414 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: thanks for the call, my friend. We can't play um 415 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: uh general manager now okay, I mean now we're already 416 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: talking about trades for who was for two thousand and 417 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: nineteen third round pick whatever? In Jersey again, Mike, Mike, 418 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: have we doing today? Good? How are you good? I 419 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: had a question in a comment. I'll start with the question, 420 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: which it may be a little premature, but what do 421 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: you think, uh, with the Giants offensive scheme, what's something 422 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: they can do to counteract the pass rush of the 423 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: Houston Texas. Well, I'll tell you what I can. I 424 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: was actually looking and maybe you can agree with me 425 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: or not, But in the game last week, I saw 426 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: it in the and you can't utilize play action unless 427 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: you're running the football, and the Giants had a hard 428 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: time running the football to beginning with. But one thing 429 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: I did see in the Jacksonville game that I like 430 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: that that they did is they rolled the pocket a 431 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: little bit, okay, to take away some of that pass rush. Um. 432 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: I didn't see any of that in the Dallas care 433 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: That's maybe that's something they could do there. Um, I 434 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: really believe that. You know, it comes down to technique 435 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: and fundamentals, blocking and schemes. Okay, you've got to be 436 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: able to practice some stuff that these guys may or 437 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: may not be doing in the practice, and you've got 438 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: to execute it. That's barely what it is. But for me, 439 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: roll the pocket a little bit, try to get a 440 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: little try to get the running game going so you 441 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: can induce a little bit of play action would help. 442 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: What else you got, Mike, Yeah, I agree with that. 443 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: I think they should try and roll the pocket and 444 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: do some jumbo packages. My comment was that a lot 445 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: of people are still trash and or flowers on social media. 446 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: I think people need to relax a little bit, because 447 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: again I'm not trying to point fingers. It's basically the 448 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: whole offensive line and not just him. Nate Soldier has 449 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: let up two sacks so far as well. And also, um, 450 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: if you guys go go back and look at the 451 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: tape from this previous Dallas game, there is at least 452 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: four hands in the face hands to the face on 453 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: the giant swine that should have got called. Um. At 454 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: least four that I noticed. I noticed two on Solder 455 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: and two on Flowers. But I think people he's a 456 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: relaxed a little bit and just calmed down with jumping 457 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: on Flowers so quick. I understand he's been bad for 458 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: three or four years, but he's in a new scheme 459 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: and he's with new players that he hasn't quite jailed 460 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: with yet. UM, well, Mike, you don't need to give 461 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: him a chance. I agree with you, but you know this, 462 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: it's unfortunate and it's not fair. He's the whipping boy. 463 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: You know that. That's that's just the way it's becoming. 464 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: Jeff and I were talking about it before we went 465 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: on the Flowers was better this week than he was 466 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: last week. Now, somebody, you know, you might be santastic 467 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: and say, well that wasn't much, but he had plenty 468 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: of help. You know, he wasn't the only guy. So 469 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: you're a thousand percent correct, Mike. Thanks for the call, 470 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: Thank you. Okay, to five one three is the number. 471 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: Let's go to it. Where is this Chris In? Is it? 472 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: Alamuki Alamucci? Christie, Jeff Alamuchi, New Jersey? Good good? How 473 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: are you guys? Okay? As much as I'm an Eli 474 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: Eli supporter, you know big time, you know the guy. 475 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: You know, he's not perfect, He's gonna make mistakes. But 476 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: the issue I have is with you know, everybody jumping 477 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: on top of him, is he's the same guy. He's 478 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: in great shape, he's the same guy he was back 479 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: in two thousand seven. You remember this, Jeff, that the 480 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: game you guys played in England. I mean he ran 481 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,239 Speaker 1: for a touchdown. He was the brunt of a lot 482 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: of jokes because of how long it took him to 483 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: to to to run that touchdown. Um, and they played overseas. 484 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: But the bottom line is what Eli, Just like we've 485 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: said in the year's past, you've got to give the 486 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: guy a pocket. You got to give him time. And 487 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: that's that hasn't changed. I mean, he's he he's that 488 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: one first progression, he can't even go down to the 489 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: rest of his progressions and immediately he's got to dump 490 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: it up and obell h you know the other night. 491 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: But I think you know it comes down to giving 492 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: him time and and and the other thing I just 493 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: want to make a comment is, you know, as much 494 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: as we've redne the line, I know Pew and Richberg 495 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: get had to go because of salary cap reasons that 496 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: we did pay for soldier. But if you you know, 497 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: if you had rich if you have Richberg gets center 498 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: and Pew at right guard, UM, you know, things maybe 499 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: maybe had would be a little different. Omahe hasn't played 500 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: that great obviously, Halapio was his first time playing center. Um. 501 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: Now we have Greco in there and Hernandez. You know, 502 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: he's a rookie's taking his lumps, and Solder hasn't lived 503 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: up to what we expected. So you add all that 504 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: factor in. I mean, it all plays in. But you 505 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: know my thing is with Eli, if you're not gonna 506 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: give him time. He's that typical quarterback, you know, old 507 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: style where you got to give him a pocket. Well, 508 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: you've hit on the great points and you know that 509 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: the problem is that it's easy to blame me a lot. 510 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: You know that you blame me a live right, He's 511 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: the quarterback and that's that comes, that comes with the territory, 512 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: and nobody knows better than Eli. But I will tell 513 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: you if if you if you do give him some time, Okay, yeah, 514 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: does he throw? Is his velocity on his ball a 515 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: little bit less? Yeah? Is the older Yes, everything's okay, 516 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: that's fine. But his experiences is better than anyone he's got. 517 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: He knows how to play the position. He's smart as 518 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: heck if you just give him a little bit of time. 519 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: But you know, with this offensive line, you just you 520 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: just kind of alluded to the fact that of everything 521 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: that we're talking about, you have a new right guard, 522 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: right tackle who didn't play left right last year. Okay, 523 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: kind him a little bit of slack if you want, 524 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: go ahead. The right guard Jacksonville didn't resign him because 525 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: they didn't think he was any good. The center is 526 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: basically a rookie playing center. You have a rookie playing 527 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: left guard, and then you have a veteran tackle that 528 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: you paid the most money for a left tackle in 529 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: the league until the other guy's got signed. But the 530 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: fact is that there's your offensive line. They need to 531 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: play better, they need to play together for a little 532 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: bit longer, and it's gonna take time, and so you know, 533 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: but you look at the death behind them, there is 534 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: any So just be careful what you wish for. I 535 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: don't know who else you want there. But it is 536 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: a tough pill to swallow when you see what the 537 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys did to this offensive line last week. And will 538 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: they play better? I think they will next week. But 539 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: you gotta understand it is not going to change overnight, 540 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: you know, Chris, I know what I'm saying, Chris. Year, 541 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: it's a two year. You know, this is a two project. 542 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: And you know what and too oh and two is eleven, 543 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: So we got an eleven percent chance of making the playoffs. 544 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: Now that there's oh and two and you go and 545 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: three forget about it. But you know one thing that 546 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm that I hope doesn't happen, and I think Chris 547 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: and and all the Giants fans noticed what happened last 548 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: year and I don't think it will here is that 549 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: when this team starts losing back to back to back 550 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: to back games, that Dave Gettleman brought in some leadership 551 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: into this locker room to basically stop anything that's going 552 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: to potentially happen if this team gets off to a 553 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: bad start. And that's the leadership in that locker room 554 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: with og True, you've got Collins who has now been 555 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: a leader. Obviously, you got Eli there, Okay, James Jonathan 556 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: Stewart is a veteran in the locker room, Nate Solder. 557 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: So hopefully this team gets held together when things start 558 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: kind of not going well. Well, they're not going well now, 559 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: and hopefully that comes to it end this week and Uston, 560 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: thanks for the call, Chris, thank you. But but you know, 561 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: let listen, folks, if you've been listening my buddy here, 562 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: Jeff said it early on. You know, if you're gonna 563 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: you're talking about all of a sudden is business about 564 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: Eli's lack of mobility, and Jeff said, where have you 565 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: been for fifteen years? Because he's had the same mobility 566 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: for fifteen years. They didn't lose last week on Sunday 567 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,719 Speaker 1: night because of lack of mobility. Okay, if he if 568 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: he would have been more mobile, the only difference would 569 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: have been it might have been a couple of seconds 570 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: more before he was sacked. Yeah, and I think that 571 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: you know today's game, the quarterback is mobile. I mean 572 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: he is. Guys can get out of the pocket and 573 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: throw up No. But it hasn't changed with him. But 574 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: it's not going to be with the Giants right now. 575 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: It's really is not so um. You know, we got 576 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: to ask more out of the offensive line to give 577 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: you lie some protection. Because when you got Evan Ingram 578 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: and Sterling Shepard and O b. J Okay and and 579 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: Sequon Barkley out of the backfield, for God's sake, he 580 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: caught fourteen checkdowns last week. These guys can catch the 581 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: football if you give him some time, and if you 582 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: give the quarterback, you've got to find a way to 583 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: protect number ten and then he will do his magic. 584 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: He's got the players to do it. You know, you 585 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: just mentioned about all the checkdowns. The one thing that 586 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: I would like to see, Uh, listen, I have full confidence, 587 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: I mean Pat Shermer is an offensive coach. Okay, I mean, 588 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure we're gonna see things. But you've got to 589 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: get back to the basics of blocking, okay, and and 590 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: that is something that's been lacking on the offensive line. 591 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: But again getting back to the checkdowns, I'd like to 592 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: see q you know, somebody's just if you just give 593 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: him the ball real quickly out as they were doing. 594 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: It's no different than you know, a rush. I like 595 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: to see him getting a little flair, you know, having 596 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: some steam, you know, uh, like a like a runner, 597 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: like like a sprint that added the gate, giving him 598 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: a headstart. Let him get the ball, you know, rolling 599 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: out of the gate. See what happens. And maybe that'll 600 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: be in the gay plan. Which and another thing to 601 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: going back to the call before I think it was 602 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: dealing asking me in the question about you know what 603 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: I would do, um. One way to slow down a 604 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,719 Speaker 1: pass rush is the screen game. And if you can 605 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: run the screen game, okay, and the draws, then those 606 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: are some players that'll that'll very quickly slow down that rush. Um, 607 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: so you could Those are some of the other things 608 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: that you could do too. But you know, when you 609 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: when you your screen game is is your screen game. 610 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: You kind of get on a block and let the 611 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: guys come through and then you kind of set them up. 612 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: So the screen game would have worked good last week 613 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: if they didn't even have to They just want to 614 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: let him go. Anyways, all right, two oh one, five 615 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: one three Again, just to remind you people, Big Blue 616 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: Kickoff LI presented to you by Corps Light. Download the 617 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: cores Light Rewards app now to win yourself amazing prizes 618 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: throughout this two thousand and eighteen season. Let's go up 619 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: to Syracuse and speak with Chris Well. Well, Chris, at least, 620 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: uh you got one team that's three and oh up 621 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: in sac Yeah, we've got something going there, But I 622 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: don't know. These giants are certain to affect my marriage 623 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: and the falling. Okay, we don't want that to happen, buddy. Yeah, 624 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,959 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just kidding. But first of all, one 625 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: of the things I keep on here and even from 626 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: the previous color of the seeing about you, I mitching 627 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: O'Dell on the end zone. I think you kind of 628 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: to point that on Francesco last night. I just want 629 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: to bring that up. People check that out. Um, when 630 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: they showed it kind of on the NBC broadcast, he 631 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: looked like he was wide open, but the ball was 632 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: already out the safety of broke off and coming down 633 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: on Laddimer. So I don't think that you missed at 634 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: least there at all. Um. Well, anyways, be that as 635 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: it may. What is you know, a realistic or maybe 636 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: even an optimistic um turnaround? What's really possible for these guys? 637 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: Because I get that they haven't played together very long, 638 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: and you've got all these moving pieces and all of 639 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: this stuff. But you know, from what I saw Sunday night, 640 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: it didn't look like we had a few weeks in 641 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: the dam and this thing is just kind of have 642 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: to come together. I mean, it looked like an all 643 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: out catastrophic failure. Well that's I mean, if you want 644 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: to use Sunday night, is that that's that's a fair assessment. 645 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: I don't Chris, I don't think anybody's gonna argue with you. 646 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: I think I don't like to say wake up call, 647 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: because again, they played a tough team in the opening week. Okay, 648 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I don't know what happened. Again, 649 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: I said, you could have knocked me over with a feather. 650 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: I was dumbfounded by what I got to see Sunday night. 651 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: Is let's hope it's an aberration. I I don't know, 652 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: but yeah, you're right if that's to me, that was 653 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: a complete failure. So they all have to re grew, 654 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: and that they need to. They need to find something 655 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 1: that they're good at. They couldn't run, block, they can't 656 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: pass protect, I mean, and I don't think that we 657 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: stuck with the run enough. Maybe it would just to 658 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: get them firing off the ball and have them hit 659 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: somebody in the mouth and try to get something going 660 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: on that run game. I really don't know. But the 661 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: way I looked at it's like, like I said, this 662 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: just just looks pretty pretty dismal. And I'm just wondering, 663 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: are there any examples, uh that that either of you 664 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 1: guys can think of an offensive line that had such 665 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: a poor performance it's gonna be able to bounce back 666 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: at least be adequate. Well, let listen, thanks for the call, Chris. 667 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know about the other offensive lines. 668 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: Wasn't it last year? Um, just you're just talking about 669 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:56,439 Speaker 1: lousy starts? Wasn't it last year? The year the year 670 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: before last, Atlanta was absolutely horrible, and they went out 671 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: and got an offensive line. And so we talked about 672 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: you know, I talked about it all the time about 673 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: cohesiveness and guys playing together and and learning each other's 674 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: tendencies and being able to communicate without talking is a 675 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: big thing for offensive lineman because you've when you play 676 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: next to each other for as long as you can. 677 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: There's a team in Atlanta who brought in a bunch 678 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: of new guys. Now you know, were they good players? Yes? 679 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: And they ended up Look how they turned their whole 680 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: season around last year. So it can happen. Um. I 681 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: think that this will happen a little bit slower, Um, 682 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: and you're just gonna have to be patient with it. 683 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: I think that when the organization goes and and and 684 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: basically tells you they spent a lot of money on 685 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: this offensive line, when you think about it, spent a 686 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: second round draft pick, they paid a left tackle, They 687 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: went out and gave mom A a big contract to 688 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: come in here. Um, And then really you got, you 689 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: got your first round draft pick playing right tackle for you. 690 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: So there's a lot invested in it. It's just gonna 691 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: take time for this team to mold and they bottom lines, 692 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: they gotta play much better, much better. Okay, But I 693 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: will tell you, and I keep saying this. You look 694 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: at that schedule, those first eight games, and from a 695 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: three and thirteen team last year and nineteen new only 696 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: nineteen guys on this team. There's still a lot of 697 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: maneuvering around and getting this team to gael to be good. 698 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: They can be good offensively, but it starts upfront, all right, Okay, 699 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: thanks Chris, Chris to a one, nine, four or five? 700 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: One three is the number. Let's not go down to 701 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: Hotlanta and speak with Robin. Robin, how are you doing today, buddy? 702 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: Hey guys, how you guys doing? Thank you for taking 703 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,439 Speaker 1: my call? Man? What's going on? Rob? Yeah? I didn't 704 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: called it in a while, but yeah, I'm I'm just 705 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: kind of fed up. Man. I'm trying to lose it. Man. 706 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: What is it gonna take for us to win one game? Man? 707 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: One game? I'm tired of these six and team seasons 708 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:49,479 Speaker 1: and in three and thirteen, I'm I'm getting Robin right now, Robin, 709 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: right now, we just want to get to one and 710 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: two right right now, I just want to get to 711 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: one and do I want to see a marked improvement 712 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 1: off of last week. And you know, as the previous 713 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: all the Chris just said before you uh, you know, 714 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: it was a mess. It was just you know, everybody, 715 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: you know, it's the old joke, help by falling and 716 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: I can't get up. That's what it was on on 717 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: Sunday night. And now they got to get up. We 718 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: got we got a two hundred million dollar defense, we 719 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: got a two hundred million dollar offense, and we can't 720 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: we can't do nothing with it. You move the ball. 721 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: Like score we played. We played so bad. I think 722 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: you guys have posted on some highlights of the on 723 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: the website, on the on the internet, the highlights of 724 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: the game. We only had like like one minute or 725 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 1: less than one minute out of six minutes highlights. We 726 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: only have one minute highlights. That's how bad we play. 727 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: There was more low lights. Robin, my friend, it's hard 728 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: to argue with what you're saying. But like when you 729 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: say before you can get I mean, let's not even 730 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: talk about six and ten or anything like that. We 731 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: we just let's Robin, thank you for the call, buddy. 732 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 1: Let's let's now get one and two. And you know what, 733 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: that's all the Giants have to be thinking about. That's 734 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: all Pat Sherman has to be thinking about. We got 735 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: to get to one and two. The moment is now. 736 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 1: It's gonna be in Houston, Texas. You know, by any way, 737 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 1: shape or form, any means necessary. Just get the damn 738 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: w you know, as the late out Davis would say 739 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: with the Raiders, win, baby win. That's all they need 740 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: to do. I don't care, you know, dirty clean, whatever, 741 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: Just win, you know, stop with the bs, just win, 742 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: you know, talkas g played the game. Let's uh go 743 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: local now, or more local than Atlanta. Let's go to 744 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: Long Island and check in with Noah. Hello, no what 745 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: you're on with Russ and Jeff? How are you doing today? Hey? 746 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: How's it going? Guys? Good? Good? I first want to 747 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: start off with just um. You know, me and my 748 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 1: buddies always referred to Eric Flowers as the human traffic 749 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: cone because uh traffic on would do a better job 750 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 1: of block him than he was. But I just say, 751 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: after seeing him last week, I think he's getting a 752 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: lot better, and I think he's getting some undeserved criticisms. 753 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: First game was not great, but I think I think 754 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: he's improving. Yeah, it's good to hear anyway, No, No, 755 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: I said it's good to hear. And I think that 756 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 1: people have to understand that to play in the National 757 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: Football League, number one is very difficult. Number two, when 758 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: you're asked to play a position you haven't played since 759 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: your freshman year in college, is even more difficult. And 760 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, can you play better? Yes, he can, definitely. Um, 761 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,479 Speaker 1: But I do think that he does get his share 762 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: of criticism and he knows it. But I think that 763 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: he's I think that he can improve and hopefully he 764 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: keeps doing it. And I'm glad that that people have 765 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: realized that, you know, he is trying the best he 766 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: can and if that's good enough, I don't know, but 767 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: at least you're giving him a shot and saying that 768 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 1: he's getting better that you know what. No After last week, 769 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: you know, everybody was was asking him and and and 770 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: to his credit, uh, he said, I have to get better. 771 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: I have to get better. I have to improve. Well 772 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: you know what, Eric Flower said that, But this week 773 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: all his members of the old line need to be 774 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: saying the same thing. We all have to get better. 775 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: They better get better if they got some good rushers 776 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: over in Houston. And the next thing before I get 777 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: into actual gameplay, one one positive that I think we 778 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: can definitely take away for this season so far is 779 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. And his maturity. I think that the 780 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 1: way he is handling himself so far this year is 781 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: just such a vast improvement. You know, when we're we 782 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 1: were owing too and you see him exploding or you know, 783 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: getting getting all up in arms, he has clearly made 784 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: such a turnaround with his attitude and that's just a 785 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 1: great thing from the locker room leadership perspect Well, yeah, 786 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: I would agree with you then Noah. But but let's 787 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: let me say this, you and everybody else would like 788 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 1: to see him cranky and and doing all kinds of 789 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: gyrations and be two and oh as as opposed to 790 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: being a well behaved choir boy at owen. Two. Having 791 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 1: said that, what else, of course, but the best you'd 792 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: like to see is just a mature leader and two 793 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 1: and all. Well, exactly, he's been a solid citizen right 794 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: from minicamp, so nothing's changed exactly. And the last thing 795 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: I'm like to say is, I just feel like so 796 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 1: many fans and I'm seeing so many fans through social 797 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: media outlets another another media just completely turning on the 798 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: Giants already. And I gotta says, especially you, Jeff. You 799 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 1: were part of the seven Giants team when we just 800 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: got absolutely snapped by the Cowboys in the pack of 801 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: the first two gamers of the season. Everyone in the league, 802 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: everyone in the NFL was like the Giants of the 803 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: worst team in the league. And what did we do? 804 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: We worked hard, We slowly turned it around, and little 805 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: by little we got there, came the road Warriors and 806 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: went on twin the Super Bowl, probably the greatest Super 807 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 1: Bowl ever. You know, Now that's I I agree with you. 808 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 1: You know you can't everybody can't be as patient. And 809 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: I don't think, no, I listen, I have a little yeah, 810 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: but no, no, no, thank you for the call, buddy. 811 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: But that that's what social media and you know what 812 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: it's led to that, it's it's expect when you hear 813 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: more of the bad things. When things are bad, you 814 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: hear more commons than when things are good. Believe me, 815 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: if the Giants if the Giants were two and oh, 816 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: you'd hear less about them, but you hear more, including 817 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,879 Speaker 1: the headlines and on back pages because they're owing two. 818 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's this is the end of the world. 819 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,240 Speaker 1: That's the end of the world. Allies lack of mobility 820 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: I'm reading today. Would it be great? You know if 821 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:48,240 Speaker 1: they had a a strong arm quarterback as your backup, 822 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: which was alluding to Davis Webb all of a sudden, 823 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: you know, Davis Webb was is now the poster boy 824 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: for what would have been right, I mean the whole thing, 825 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 1: and I was I was the biggest David's web fit. 826 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: This whole thing is silly, I mean, Eli and the 827 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: whole damn team has to play better, Okay, everybody, everybody 828 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: across the board, everybody, everybody has to play better. That's 829 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: a given. Let's go down to Virginia. Uh to one 830 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: three is the number. Check in with Eric. Hello, Eric, 831 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: how are you doing today? Good afternoon, gentlemen, How are 832 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 1: you good? Eric? What's up? Buddy? Hey? So um? You 833 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: know Monday, we all kind of had all frustrations and 834 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 1: we kind of know it is what it is. What 835 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 1: happened Sunday night, but you know, going forward here, you know, 836 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: this is a constant theme with this team of starting 837 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: and two we started owing to the last five out 838 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 1: of six years. That's not a good way to start 839 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: your season. So to say we gotta wait four weeks 840 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 1: to gel and let things happen, like, I get some 841 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 1: of that. But if that's the case, maybe maybe the 842 00:43:55,360 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: coaches need to play more of the team in preseason 843 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 1: and let's end jell a little bit more there. I mean, 844 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 1: they do practice, you know what. You know, Eric, that's 845 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: that's that's a very fair point. But again I'm not 846 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: the uh, the head coach. But you know, part of 847 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: the problem is, especially you had new coaches coming in, 848 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 1: was assessing talent. You know, I understand, But my my 849 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 1: biggest fear is that this defense that we have has 850 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 1: played pretty decent, but the more film they put on tape, 851 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 1: I think the more exposed they're gonna get and we're 852 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: starting to see little bits and pieces that they're more 853 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,799 Speaker 1: of like the bend and not break defense. And if 854 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: the offense can't control the ball and can't maintain possessions, 855 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: they're gonna be guests in the fourth quarter. And I 856 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 1: don't care what happens. That's not a good recipe for success. Well, Eric, 857 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: thanks for the call, But I think that goes with 858 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 1: any team. I mean, you know, you gotta help. Obviously, 859 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: every defense is gonna be Doug gass tire if they're 860 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: on the field for the entire game. You know, you 861 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 1: get no arguments here. Let's go way out to Oakland, California. 862 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 1: Check in with Mike. How are you doing today, Mike, 863 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,919 Speaker 1: You're on with Russ and Jeff. Excellent. I love love 864 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 1: to be on with you guys. Good morning too, Good morning, 865 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 1: quite afternoon to you do. Yeah, good morning to you Okay, 866 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: right right, So you know, just um, I just I 867 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: just want to say that, uh, you know, I feel 868 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 1: like there as much as I hear the frustration from everybody, 869 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,760 Speaker 1: and and I think the last car had an interesting 870 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:39,760 Speaker 1: question about, you know, how much you play starters a preseason. Um, 871 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 1: I really felt like there were unrealistic expectations for this 872 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,800 Speaker 1: team coming in the season, coming from three and to 873 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: thank you, you know, I just got to remind people, 874 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 1: like we're rebuilding a roster. Like we had depth props 875 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: for the last few years, we have them even more 876 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,800 Speaker 1: now because we've recognized that even some of our frontline 877 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: talent wasn't good enough, and that's where we're at right now. 878 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: So off for an offensive line to come in and 879 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,919 Speaker 1: just crush it. You know that. I just didn't see 880 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,280 Speaker 1: it happening in and I expected him to have problems. 881 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 1: And I also remind everybody, like we watched Daniel Snyder 882 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,240 Speaker 1: build dream teams, you know, bringing all this great talent 883 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,799 Speaker 1: every year, just buying new guys, throw them together. They 884 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 1: couldn't play as a team. NFL's ultimate team sport, and 885 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 1: all those dream teams were garbage, just like the Eagles 886 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 1: when they you know, what's the face the quarterback was 887 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: talking about dream team a few years ago. I mean, 888 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 1: this is a team sport, the ultimate teams what I say, 889 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: and they take time to gel. So that's my first point. Well, 890 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: I I've been saying that all along, Mike. I've been 891 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 1: telling people to pump the brakes on this Giant's team. 892 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: And you have to understand when it comes down to, yeah, 893 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 1: have teams turned it around before, Yes, they have, um 894 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 1: and that's just a bit of luck if, in my opinion, 895 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,320 Speaker 1: the team stays healthy and some of your players that 896 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 1: you didn't think we're going to play that good, really 897 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 1: played well, they go to the Pro Bowl kind of 898 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 1: things like that. This team has a long way to 899 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,120 Speaker 1: go and they have a lot of work to do. 900 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,320 Speaker 1: And I think that you know, Dave Gentleman and and 901 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 1: and his staff and the coaching staff here understand that 902 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: this is gonna take a little bit of time. Can 903 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 1: we please give Pat Shermer in his offense a little 904 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: bit more time other than two weeks and to get 905 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 1: it to back to your point with the preseason. It's 906 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 1: a shame that the that the the fan can't see 907 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,879 Speaker 1: their team play in preseason, but because of the money 908 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: and because just you know, it's just the economics of 909 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 1: the game unfortunately, and every team does it. It's not 910 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,320 Speaker 1: like just the Giants of the only people. But you 911 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: would think that they would want to play the team 912 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more to get that cohesiveness, but they 913 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: just can't afford to do it because of interest. Listen, 914 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 1: I remember it used to be six preseason games. So yeah, 915 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 1: well I play when they're they're talking about getting they're 916 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: talking about getting rid of them, right, But you know, 917 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess you know it's I still have 918 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: confidence Pat Shermer. I still hope we do it. I mean, 919 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 1: he was an offensive line guy. I will tell you that. 920 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,800 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't see a lot. I saw, you know, 921 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 1: a few times guys just got beaten. But more I saw, 922 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,399 Speaker 1: you know, just confusion on the offensive line and miss 923 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: as Simons. So you know, I think that they're gonna 924 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 1: They're gonna fix a lot of that stuff. I still 925 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 1: have a lot of hope for the season. I'm definitely 926 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 1: not cutting bait on this team. You know, Mike, you 927 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 1: bring out a good point to me. It was more 928 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: of like you say, technique or whatever you want to 929 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,320 Speaker 1: call it. It wasn't like they were getting beat physically. 930 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,240 Speaker 1: If they were getting beat physically, that's a whole different 931 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 1: story that then they just they could man up to 932 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 1: it that that wasn't the case. So uh again, you know, 933 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 1: good that goes in line to what Jeff has been 934 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 1: saying here, Mike. Uh And, and thank you for the call. 935 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,439 Speaker 1: It it's it takes like it looks it takes time. 936 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 1: No one whether it takes time or not, they had 937 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: a lousy game. Okay, I think we can ail Jeff 938 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 1: no and, but it was a lousy game. No one's 939 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: making excuses for that. But if you judge in you know, 940 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: like I mean, I'm seeing stuff today and and yesterday, 941 00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 1: it's like they're oning too, they're not. Two. Okay, two, 942 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: Let's go to our friend in Columbia, Maryland. Lenny. How 943 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,919 Speaker 1: you doing today? Bud? Hey, how you doing? Guys? Talked 944 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: good to you? Talk talk to you. Um, you know 945 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,840 Speaker 1: every week is a new opportunity. Um. You know we 946 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,359 Speaker 1: keep talking about the schedule. You know, somebody said six 947 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 1: games today, first six or tough. I think Jeff you 948 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 1: added a couple and says something about eight games. But 949 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 1: you know three of the teams who were playing in 950 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 1: the first date we play again in the second eight. 951 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 1: So that's eleven games right there. I mean, you can't 952 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: I don't think we can look at it that way. 953 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 1: We were. We were as good as Jacksonville in that 954 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 1: fourth quarter in that home opener. Every game is different. 955 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,280 Speaker 1: You take them one game at a time. You prepare, 956 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 1: you get that game plan, execute the game plan, play 957 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,399 Speaker 1: hard for sixty minutes and check the scoreboard. Uh so 958 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, some days another opportunity for us to do that. Um. 959 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 1: You know a lot of people are calling and talking 960 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 1: about how long are we gonna wait to evaluate the 961 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,959 Speaker 1: offensive line. You know, everybody says, you know, Datino says, 962 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 1: and and this, this is, this is legit. He said, 963 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 1: you know, the first quarter of the season, you gotta 964 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 1: give it four games. I think Jeff you held up 965 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,440 Speaker 1: four fingers too, because we've already played it. You got 966 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,880 Speaker 1: to give it four games. What do you what do 967 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 1: we do if the four games? Well, no, I mean 968 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 1: I said that too, Man, I said, there's nothing else. 969 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 1: Came to game and hope these guys get better. Well, no, 970 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 1: I think Lando, And again I I didn't hear that conversation, 971 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 1: but just knowing and having sits, having sat next to 972 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: him long enough, knowing Paul, I think, especially when when 973 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 1: you talk about four games, or Jeff you mentioned four, 974 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 1: I think we always hear uh coaches divide their season 975 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 1: into quarters for four, four and four, And I think, 976 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 1: you know, I think maybe you look after the first 977 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,400 Speaker 1: four as a coaching staff and as a front office 978 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 1: and say, where to Alawi, But we're not there yet. 979 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,439 Speaker 1: You know, right now we're owing two. You're not there yet. 980 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 1: But I think you make that assessment at the end 981 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 1: of each quarter. I think that that's a fair comment 982 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,760 Speaker 1: to say, Okay, let me let me say one more thing, uh, Russ, 983 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 1: you saw Connolly at the end of his career. Yes, 984 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,400 Speaker 1: I was lucky enough to see commonly at the beginning. 985 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm probably a little older than you are, Russ. But 986 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 1: the one thing I can I can remember, and this 987 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 1: is true of all quarterbacks during all eras Sims, Tittle, 988 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 1: whoever it happened to be. When they don't play well, 989 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 1: the fans boo I mean the quarterback. The quarterback gets booed. 990 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,879 Speaker 1: It was they were. I can remember as a kid 991 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,320 Speaker 1: sitting in the in the Polo Grounds and Yankee Stadium 992 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,240 Speaker 1: in late fifties and and listen to the fans booling 993 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 1: Connolly and yelling on him from the stands, And I 994 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 1: kept thinking, he's our quarterback. What are you yelling at 995 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 1: him for? You know? You know this, big because you're 996 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 1: an old as you say, you're an old fan, die 997 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 1: hard as much as anybody who calls us there on 998 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:03,040 Speaker 1: Big Blue kick Off. Look, when you're old older, let 999 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 1: let me say it that way, when you're when you're 1000 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 1: a veteran, When you're when you're a veteran and you 1001 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,839 Speaker 1: have a bad game, who age is catching up? When 1002 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 1: you're a young guy and you have a bad game 1003 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 1: whole youth, You're you're too inexperience. It's the same thing. 1004 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,320 Speaker 1: Like I always used to hear this, in particular, I 1005 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 1: would hear this in baseball. You know, if a guy 1006 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 1: throws the bat and and you know kick like Casey 1007 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 1: Stangel used to say, I wish you had a quarter 1008 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 1: for every time Mickey Mantle kick the water cooler. But 1009 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 1: if you if you're showing that, it's the intensity. That's 1010 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 1: okay if you win, but if you lose, you can't 1011 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 1: control your emotions. You know, you're damned if you do, 1012 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 1: you're damned if you don't. Lend. Yeah, here's my bottom 1013 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 1: line on Eli. If Eli wasn't performing the way he's 1014 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 1: supposed to perform, the coach would make a change. Eli 1015 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:57,720 Speaker 1: Manning gives us the best chance to win on Sunday. 1016 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 1: If he didn't, the coaches would make a change. They're 1017 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 1: not stupid, Russ. Let's get let's win a game on Sunday. 1018 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,319 Speaker 1: Thank you. You get no argument from me. I mean, 1019 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,359 Speaker 1: I'm a dinner one time last year. I'm not standing here, 1020 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 1: you know as as part of the Eli Manning Chamber 1021 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 1: of Commerce. Okay, but I mean for crying out loud. 1022 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 1: I mean, if you watch that game, everybody should everybody 1023 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,840 Speaker 1: has to be at full for what happens Sunday night. Jeff, 1024 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,759 Speaker 1: I think we would all agree on that everybody has 1025 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 1: to be at full. Eli, You know everybody, What do 1026 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,720 Speaker 1: you think would have happened if there was a rookie 1027 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,879 Speaker 1: quarterback against the Dallas Cowboys on Sunday night? Yeah, I'll 1028 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,360 Speaker 1: tell you exactly what would have happened. He would have 1029 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 1: got outside the pocket. Everybody would have been like, oh, 1030 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 1: he's mobile, he's mobile, this and that. Um. But still, 1031 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 1: I mean, if you are a quarterback in the National 1032 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,879 Speaker 1: football we can have no time to throw. Your next 1033 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,359 Speaker 1: option is to get rid of the ball. Okay, check 1034 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: downs or eat it and just get go down, or 1035 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 1: throw picks. You're gonna throw picks, gonna start throwing things 1036 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,240 Speaker 1: in the tight windows and they're gonna get picked. Eli 1037 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 1: is your best option. He always will be until he 1038 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,719 Speaker 1: decides the team to decide that he's not. And I'm 1039 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 1: with Lynn and does somebody better show him to me? 1040 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,239 Speaker 1: But he's not on the roster right now. You know, 1041 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 1: our buddy here who's producing dead dominant brought up the 1042 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 1: great point off the air to us, and the point was, 1043 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,839 Speaker 1: you know, and you know what, collins Worth and al 1044 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,440 Speaker 1: Michaels start bringing up Donald in the middle of the game. 1045 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 1: I don't think that, you know, did the Giants make 1046 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 1: the right draft choice? I don't think they would have 1047 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 1: brought that up had the Giants been having themselves a 1048 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 1: good game. Okay, but you know what would have happened 1049 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 1: if the Giants drafted Donald, he still would have been 1050 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,399 Speaker 1: sitting on his ass or with with the chalkboard, with 1051 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,320 Speaker 1: with the clipboard on the sideline because he would have 1052 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,640 Speaker 1: been playing. I mean, come on, it's stupid. It's it's 1053 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 1: just dumb. You know this thing, it's gonna be for 1054 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,759 Speaker 1: for a decade. But every time somebody, for crying out loud, 1055 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 1: passes win the wrong way, they're gonna make a comparison 1056 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 1: on the draft picks. It's stupid. Let's go nearby Nutley, 1057 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 1: New Jersey and check with Abby. Abby. How are you 1058 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,879 Speaker 1: doing today? Hey? How you doing good? Afternoon? Guys? Um 1059 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 1: stuck in time caller. I'm just wanting to talk a 1060 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,399 Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, do you want to talk a little 1061 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 1: bit about Eli and the offensive line? Um, I'm just 1062 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 1: sick and tired of people just bashing on him life, 1063 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,440 Speaker 1: like everybody's calling about or done you like that we 1064 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,960 Speaker 1: need a mobile quarterback. I'm like, did? People just don't 1065 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,359 Speaker 1: see what happened to Russell Wilson last ning? Thank you 1066 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 1: terrible terrible offensive lines. Yeah, a lot, a lot good quarterback, 1067 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 1: a lot good Russell's wheels did him last night? You know, 1068 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,320 Speaker 1: it only allowed him to run for his life a 1069 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 1: little longer, that's all. And not just that. Look at 1070 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,240 Speaker 1: Watson and Houston. I'm like, you know, he's been sacked 1071 00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 1: ten times in the last um two games, so it's 1072 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 1: like a lot of people just bashing and he's like, 1073 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 1: like he's done and everything. Yeah, I get it. Sometimes, 1074 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,720 Speaker 1: you know, he's a quarterback. When a quarterback gets frushed, 1075 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,359 Speaker 1: you know, in the clock start speeding up, and when 1076 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,319 Speaker 1: he thinks that, you know, not gonna have too much time, 1077 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,120 Speaker 1: then he you know, he tried to dump it or 1078 00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 1: he tried to do whatever. He came with the ball. 1079 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 1: But Eli is good when he has a solid running game, 1080 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,080 Speaker 1: at least a consistent running game, and has something in 1081 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,879 Speaker 1: the pocket. He hasn't had that till the last one 1082 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 1: six seven years already even in the Super Bowl run. 1083 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 1: You know, we were last his running and you know 1084 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,399 Speaker 1: he got hot and everything. But at the same time, 1085 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 1: it's like people just keep killing him, like if it's 1086 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,640 Speaker 1: his fault. Well, but that Abby, You've been covering You've 1087 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,279 Speaker 1: been following football long enough to know. You know, it's 1088 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 1: the quarterback. He's the main man. He's gonna take the heat. 1089 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 1: And fortunately it's easy Eli. I mean, nobody handles it 1090 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 1: better than Eli. I've covered a lot of athletes in 1091 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:44,760 Speaker 1: this town and you know what, nobody, but nobody deals 1092 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 1: with the criticism better than Eli. No, I respect that. 1093 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like the Eli had given 1094 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 1: everything to the Giants, and the last few years, since 1095 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,359 Speaker 1: two thousand eleven, the Giant has let him down. Comes 1096 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,279 Speaker 1: to me, you know, not a good running game, not 1097 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,279 Speaker 1: enough quality plays in the offensive line. Eric Flowers is 1098 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:07,280 Speaker 1: still there, so you know it's like yeah, but again again, 1099 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 1: app and listen, I'm not absolving Eric Flowers of poor play. 1100 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 1: But let's not make this past week or or the 1101 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 1: quite frankly the past. But let's not gonna make it 1102 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,880 Speaker 1: all on Eric Flowers. Yeah, that that was that was 1103 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,720 Speaker 1: just bad assignment. People not reading the right reads. When 1104 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,720 Speaker 1: it comes to who the block and everything, It's like 1105 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 1: Elai can do everything well if he has time, when 1106 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 1: he wants, when people want him to do, to block 1107 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 1: for himself to like I don't understand that, it's just crazy, 1108 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 1: Well you can't do it. I appreciate the call, my friend. 1109 00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 1: Thank you, have a good afternoon. Thank you for you too. 1110 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 1: Happy Alright, as we get ready to wrap things up, folks, 1111 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 1: just a reminder that we want to. Uh. You got 1112 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 1: to know that Big Blue Kickoff Live is presented to 1113 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 1: you by cores Light. Download the cores Light Rewards app 1114 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,640 Speaker 1: to win yourself amazing giant prizes throughout the season. Again, 1115 00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 1: your number to always call there is two or one five, 1116 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 1: one three. I'm usually here with you people on Tuesdays 1117 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: and Wednesdays. I won't be here with you tomorrow. I'll 1118 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 1: be back with you on Friday. Um, Listen, I thought today, 1119 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 1: I quite frankly, I thought the callers were, you know, 1120 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 1: very level headed today. Oh I'm serious. It wasn't like 1121 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 1: old boy the world is coming to an end. I 1122 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 1: don't know how they were yesterday. From what I understand, 1123 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:29,080 Speaker 1: it was pretty much the same thing. Listen, nobody's happy 1124 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,960 Speaker 1: when you lose. Nobody's happy when you lose on national TV, 1125 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 1: you know, like the big feature game on Sunday night, 1126 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 1: and nobody's happy when you lose. When you really have 1127 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 1: an awful game as they did. You know, it's it seemed, 1128 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:49,760 Speaker 1: especially the way it started, that they had the Cowboys, 1129 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 1: had the Giants back on the heels, both on offense 1130 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 1: and defense, and certainly we had him on the heels 1131 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 1: after that long play. Yeah, you know, I think a 1132 00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 1: big big point in that game, down seven nothing was 1133 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 1: that worth an inches play, you know, around the forty 1134 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 1: eight yard Like yeah, I mean, I mean I understand what. 1135 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:10,040 Speaker 1: I understand why why they went They punted it away, um, 1136 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,520 Speaker 1: which is fine, but I mean just because it's a 1137 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 1: tough that's it they went for. Talk about Eli running 1138 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 1: he had he converted to two of those fourth down 1139 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,200 Speaker 1: plays on quarterback sneaks. Haven't seen that in a long no, no, 1140 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,840 Speaker 1: but but he mean thinking about it, and since were 1141 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 1: just before we wrapped this up, since you brought it up, 1142 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 1: my thinking on that was I wanted him to go 1143 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,920 Speaker 1: for the first down just because I was anxious for 1144 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 1: them to bounce back and keep something going. But at 1145 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 1: the same point I understood while the punt was You know, 1146 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,760 Speaker 1: I think your punt put them back deep in their territory. 1147 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,760 Speaker 1: Let the defense take over. But I also think that 1148 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,360 Speaker 1: uh Pat Sherman didn't want to show a sense of 1149 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,200 Speaker 1: nervousness like we gotta make this happen now to respond 1150 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 1: to you know, I think when you got the left 1151 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,480 Speaker 1: tackle that you paid the X amount of dollars, You're 1152 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 1: spend a second number two pick on a running back 1153 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,200 Speaker 1: and your fourth and inches. I'm going for it there. 1154 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean, even though I want to punt it, meaning 1155 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,080 Speaker 1: I would love the opportunity to kick it down in there, 1156 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,080 Speaker 1: but I mean, I get what he did. But to me, 1157 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,360 Speaker 1: I'm running up. I mean, you got you got this offense, 1158 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 1: let's run it. Let's go. Let's get down there and 1159 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:17,800 Speaker 1: at least get a few goal and cut the lead 1160 01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,000 Speaker 1: to four points. And so so then when it was 1161 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,680 Speaker 1: fourth and one of his own thirty five, he went four. Yeah, 1162 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,440 Speaker 1: A little strange. Well, I thought that was, Hey, maybe 1163 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 1: he's saying this could be one of those nights. I 1164 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,480 Speaker 1: got to try and make something happen now a little 1165 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,520 Speaker 1: bit later in the game at that point, and then 1166 01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 1: I'll tell you the next fourth in one, which was 1167 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 1: I think about at the room forty. They made that 1168 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:45,160 Speaker 1: by about a nose little literally literally a nose. Anyway, folks, again, 1169 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 1: we want to thank you all for being part of 1170 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 1: a big blue kickoff UH live here on giants dot com. 1171 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 1: The number as always for you people to call to 1172 01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 1: Oh one nine four or five one three is the 1173 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,680 Speaker 1: number and that does wrap it up pretty much here, 1174 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 1: So until next time. For Jeff Eagles and Dave Dominic producing, 1175 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 1: it is I ruh Salzburg bidding you a bye bye 1176 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 1: so long farewell, see you next time