1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:00,840 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 2: I am six forty. 3 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: There's some kind of news conference being held by the 5 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: county supervisors over this after action report about the county's 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: response to the bad fires and if we find out anything, 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: we will tell you. And the report did not cover 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: the city's response. So we still don't know why the 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: Palisades Reservoir was empty, why it was missing one hundred 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: and seventeen million gallons of water, And we still don't 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: know why Genie Canonia still gets to run the DWP, 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: among other things. 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: But we'll get to more of that later. 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: Right now, you know the big You know, we don't 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: have enough money for the fire department. We only funded 16 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: at a fifty percent rate, But god, do we have 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: the money to blow on stupid homeless housing ideas. Back with, 18 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: Mike Bonnen was still a councilman on the west side 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: of La There he had a project to convert a 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: Ramada in in It was called the Marina Delway RAMAA 21 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: converted to low income housing. So far, the city has 22 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: spent over twenty million dollars and nothing's been done. And 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: we're going to talk to Angela McGregor from Westside Current 24 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: dot com because she's been poking around trying to see 25 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: I guess what Bonding thinks of all this. Angela McGregor, 26 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: how are you. 27 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 3: I'm good, Thank you, thanks for having me so. 28 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, you talked to Mike Bonning about this disaster of 29 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: a project. 30 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 2: I mean this was his baby. 31 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 3: Oh no, didn't talk to him. He won't talk to us, 32 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: but we he did tweet about our article or post 33 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: on X. Someone asked him if he took responsibility for it, 34 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: given that it was his baby. As you say, he 35 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: got it built with no community quote whatsoever, got the 36 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 3: mortgage approved. And also, and I think this is important too, 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 3: after it had been opened at transitional housing for about 38 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 3: fourteen months, he allowed it to be vacated to be 39 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: quote unquote renovated quote unquote immediately. That was three years ago. 40 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 3: It's still empty and there's been no work done. But 41 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: when someone asked him on X if he took responsibility 42 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 3: for the fact that it's been sitting empty at a 43 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: total cost of nineteen and a half million dollars, he 44 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 3: said no, that would be my successor. Her candency was 45 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: born out of her opposition to the project in her neighborhood, 46 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: and the project has languished unempty. I have no idea 47 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: what he means by that. During the entirety of her tenure. Meanwhile, 48 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 3: she's been shutting down shelters and blocking housing. So I 49 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 3: picked up on that for an off ed I published yesterday. 50 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 3: And obviously she's living rent free in his head, and 51 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: he's not going to take responsibility for her. 52 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: No, for this, he did. He never did for anything. 53 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 3: But but it made me think about, well, okay, what 54 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: is the real cause of this. I mean, I don't 55 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 3: think it's honestly, I don't think it's any one council member. 56 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: He obviously played a role in initiating the project Tracy 57 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 3: has for Tracy Park, to her credit, has you know, 58 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: she actually extended the tenure of the Venice Bridge housing 59 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: for six months in order to have someplace to put 60 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: the people that were being cleared off the streets. And 61 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: she's been I've actually spoken to developers who talked about 62 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: how she's really championed their projects and got help to 63 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: get them built. So I think it's a little disingenuous 64 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: to blame her for hating all housing or whatever it is. 65 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 3: But what I went into in detail in my off 66 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: ed was the idea that it's not any one person, 67 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: it's it's just a really sick culture. It's it's a 68 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: really dysfunctional system where these not for profits, like the 69 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 3: one that's supposed to be building the remote, instead of 70 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: collecting tax dollars for god knows what, they're holding all 71 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 3: the cards. If you look at the email exchange between 72 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 3: the developer and the city administrator's office, what you see 73 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: is the city administrator is the one who's coming up 74 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 3: with new ways to more funding, new sources of funding, 75 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 3: and the developers saying, well, now we need more money. 76 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: We need more money. By the way, we need more money. 77 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,679 Speaker 3: I'm not sure we can do this for twenty million dollars, right, 78 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 3: and there's nobody pushing back. It gets to me this 79 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 3: Ramode is just one little piece of a much bigger puzzle. 80 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 1: Oh well, I know, I know there's lots of Ramada 81 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: style projects, But just to focus on one of them, 82 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: I think we'll give the listeners the idea of just 83 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: how insane it is. I mean, just take this Romanta 84 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: project and multiply it by any number you want, and 85 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: that's where the billions of dollars are going for nothing, 86 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: go night. So this sounds like massive corruption that everybody's 87 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: in on. 88 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 3: Well, we've had two audits, two really actually very interesting, 89 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 3: very good audits, once the county and one from the 90 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 3: la Alliance lawsuit, and both of them revealed a culture 91 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: of just total lack of accountability, the account no accounting standards, 92 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: money flying out the window with no expectation of it 93 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: coming back. There's no no enumeration of anything that's actually 94 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: getting done. 95 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: You know. 96 00:05:54,839 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 3: The the head of LASS rather famously, well, she she resigned, 97 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: but I think she would have been fired. She kept 98 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: signing off on multimillion dollar contracts to her husband's not 99 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 3: for profit, to the one that he worked for. She 100 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: did it once, she got caught by la Is doing it, 101 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: and they swore up and down and she'll never do 102 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: it again, it was an honest mistake. And then she 103 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 3: did it again. 104 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: Yeah Alicia Adams and. 105 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Alicia, doctor Alicia Adams Kellum. And then and this 106 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 3: was really to me, really infuriating. There were a couple 107 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 3: of whistle blowers who who were unceremoniously let go by 108 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 3: by Lasha who preceded predated her, and they filed and 109 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: it's it's public now. But they filed these just hair 110 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 3: raising complaints about her behavior, about the way she was 111 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 3: bringing unqualified people on into positions there that she had 112 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: sort of created for them. I think the accusation that 113 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: really got the most pressed was that she was pressuring 114 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 3: the data guy to fudge the numbers because it would 115 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 3: make maribeths look good. 116 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: Yes on our inside safe on her safe inside safe numbers. 117 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. 118 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: And these two women who were let go sued and 119 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: rather than taking it to court, where their accusations would 120 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 3: be public, not only public, but also they would have 121 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: had to have testified under oath, the lawship paid them 122 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: eight hundred thousand dollars basically to make this thing go away. 123 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: And that's the culture we're talking about here. I mean, 124 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 3: it's it's there's no accountability, there's no you know, the 125 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: people who are getting the taxpayer dollars are telling the 126 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 3: city what to do, and it's chaos. 127 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: It's just chaos. 128 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 3: And Ramata is kind of like a oh, monument to 129 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: that level of Nettinos. 130 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: Bratically this motel Angela, thank you for coming on, excellent report, 131 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: and everybody should read the column she wrote in Westside 132 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: Current dot com bonding points fingers. Yet the Ramata boondoggle 133 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: began on his watch. Angela McGregor, thank you very much 134 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: for coming on. Who's who's going to bust this corruption 135 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 1: ring up here in Los Angeles? Who does the investigating? Uhen? 136 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: When do people start getting charged with crimes? There's crimes 137 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: going on here? This is this is the two billion 138 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: dollars I keep telling you about that they can't account 139 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: for more coming up. 140 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A 141 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 4: M six forty. 142 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: We're on every day from one until four o'clock and 143 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: then after four o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand. And 144 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: you know when you go to looking for the podcast, 145 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: you can always pick other days. Today I listened to 146 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: that three o'clock hour yesterday with the Santa Monica Bear 147 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: because she was on for almost the whole hour. 148 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 2: What you think of her? Coming on? 149 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: She? 150 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 5: What did I think of her? I mean, I thought 151 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 5: she was brave to take on you. 152 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: But were you satisfied with any of her answers? 153 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: Not really? 154 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: But I don't know, I don't know. Here's the thing. 155 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: I found that she blamed everybody else and that she 156 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: and the city council there aren't taking responsibility. 157 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 5: I'm not exactly sure what you can do to clean 158 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 5: up to clean up Santa Monica at this point, I mean, 159 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 5: you have to do something very very drastic, and I 160 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 5: don't know if anybody is going to do that because 161 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 5: because right, I mean so, And when she gave it, 162 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 5: she gave reasons why Santa Monica has issues. When remember 163 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 5: you were talking about Manhattan Beach and she was explaining 164 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 5: just the different reasons why Santa Monica is vulnerable to crime. 165 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 5: So it's it's almost like, well, okay, if you can't 166 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 5: prevent those things, then what can you do or what 167 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 5: are you going to do? 168 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: The one thing she circled back to a couple of 169 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: times was there is a metro train. I think it's 170 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: the E Line used to be the Expo Line. The 171 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: train and it dumps in a large number of homeless 172 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: people every night, like the last train of the night 173 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: or all the evening trains. They end in Santa Monica. 174 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: The vagrants come from skid Row and all the other 175 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: downtown encampments and now they're in Santa Monica. And she goes, 176 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: that's what's created the she goes as soon as they 177 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: brought the train into Santa Monica and I go, so, 178 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, this is what we played paid billions of 179 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: dollars for to bring in skid row to Santa Monica 180 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: and destroy that Like that's what the government did. And 181 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: I said, well, why don't you've got it? That's got 182 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: to be stopped and everybody should be in on it 183 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: to stop it. Lindsay Horvath is the county supervisor, She's 184 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: a piece of work, and it's like, why would you 185 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: create a train line to spread mental patients and drug 186 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: addicts to a beautiful town like Santa Monica. Skid Row 187 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: is bad enough, but you're always gonna have a skid 188 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: row in a big city and we always had one, 189 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: Or why would you poison Santa Monica with all that? 190 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 5: But the reality is that's happened. So then what are 191 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 5: you gonna do about it? 192 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: Now? Stop the train service? I think, I mean you could. 193 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: I think they should. They should stop it, But who's 194 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 2: gonna do that? 195 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: Or that's what the county supervisors, the ones who have 196 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: influence on the metro board, all the governments, Metro board, 197 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: county city, everybody say we're gonna stop the vagrant train. 198 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna stop a train full of mental patients and 199 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: drug addicts from being dumped into Santa Monica every night. 200 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 2: Isn't that obvious? You just stop it. 201 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 5: I don't think are going to do that, even though 202 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 5: I agree with what you're saying. 203 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 2: That's a solution, But Santa Monica is doomed. But they 204 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: don't ever come back. 205 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 5: If nobody goes and dines in Santa Monica and shops 206 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 5: in Santa Monica. 207 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: Then it's over. Then it's over. 208 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 1: It's over flat because she kept going back, and I've 209 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: heard she's not the first person to come on the 210 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: show and talk about that. Many people privately have told 211 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: me that as soon as that that train line came 212 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: to town. 213 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 5: Well what about the third Street Praminade that you're allowed 214 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 5: to now walk around with drinks? I mean, how is 215 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 5: that helpful? 216 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, as they were enforcing the alcohol law among the 217 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: vagrants all these years. 218 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: It's a joke. The whole thing is a joke. And 219 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: you know what, That's what we said at the end 220 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: of the show yesterday. My city. I don't live there, 221 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: we used to do a lot there. I guess we're 222 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: just not going. 223 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 5: To anymore, which is so disappointing because you guys loved it, 224 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 5: and I loved it too. I mean I did go 225 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 5: there a few weeks. I told you I went to 226 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 5: a restaurant. Now the restaurant that I went to is 227 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 5: it was packed? It was, but that was it. 228 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, today it's packed in the in the shopping. 229 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: Two years ago, the promenade was packed, and the Santa 230 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: Monica play small was packed. They're packed, and then one 231 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: day they're not anymore, as the rot creeps up tyr credit. 232 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: She did not deny what was going on. 233 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 5: Well, that's why I was saying. I mean, she was 234 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 5: brave to go on with you because she knew exactly 235 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 5: how you felt, and she agreed. 236 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: With much of it, right, But I got to said 237 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: that she's powerless. The city council chooses to be powerless 238 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: because they're mostly progressive except for her. And it's like, okay, 239 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: you're all progressive, wonderful, You've destroyed the city. I'm not 240 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: coming anymore. You're not coming anymore. What are you gaining here? 241 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 5: Well, the homeowners have to do something because I mean, 242 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 5: it's not cheap to live in Santa Monica. I mean, 243 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 5: maybe it's cheaper now because of all the issues, but 244 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 5: Santa Monica's never been inexpensive place. 245 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: Well, it's the vote, it's the voters, because she said 246 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 2: that most of the city council votes are six to 247 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: one and she's the one no vote on most of 248 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 2: the stuff. 249 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: And and Phil Brock who was the previous mayor and 250 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 1: also in the same camp, and the mayor's name is 251 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: escaping me lanty landa no Gretty. So Lenin Gretti was 252 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: on yesterday. Phil Brock was the previous mayor. He's been 253 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: on the show a number of times. And what did 254 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: he get for it? He lost to his city council 255 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: person race. He was the only other voice. So I 256 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: guess those even Santa Monica, this is what you want. Fine, 257 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: you're free, but we're not coming anymore. It's too scary there. 258 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: And she pointed fingers at a lot of people. And 259 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: maybe she's right, maybe she's wrong that that training thing 260 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: is very valid. Oh yeah, and setting up all the 261 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: all the treatment centers and homeless. 262 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: Are yeah, well that's a bad idea. 263 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: And Manhattan Beach doesn't have them. Well, good for them. 264 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: They kept them out. They fought and kept them out. 265 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: Why should one city accept all these homeless shelters and 266 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: all this other progressive crap. 267 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: So I'll go to Benet. 268 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: Well, you know, when it's when it's Saturday night and 269 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: we want to go to a beach town and go 270 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: to a nice restaurant and walk around on the strand, 271 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: we're going to Manhattan Beach, not Santa Monica anymore. Be 272 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,239 Speaker 1: easier to go to Santa Mona. 273 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 5: Say it's much closer. 274 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's you know, I can get there in 275 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: five minutes. Santa Monica. It's you know, it's going to 276 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: be a lot longer than that too. 277 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 5: I have an idea, since Newsom is running for president, 278 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 5: somebody needs to talk to him about cleaning up Santa Monica. 279 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: You want to do it, news Lady. 280 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 5: Sure, absolutely, I'm not afraid of any of these people. 281 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: All right, you're deputized. Go to it. 282 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI A six. 283 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: Forty after four o'clock. John Cobelt's show on demand on 284 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: the iHeart app. Just just one more thought. I mentioned 285 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: before that my wife and I we've been going to 286 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: Manhattan Beach more frequently because it's really nice there. There's 287 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: no mental patients and drug addicts, and there's very little crime, 288 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: and there's no fear, and it's a much more pleasant 289 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: beach town. Then Santa Monica is now a disaster. It's 290 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: Santa Monica maroon yesday. And you know it's the thing 291 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: you don't have to do, like official boycotts. 292 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: Everybody's into light. Well, let's do an online boycott. You 293 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: know what. The market takes care of things. 294 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: Santa Monica is so found now that there's now thousands 295 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: of people that are just not going anymore, and their 296 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: tax revenues are way down, and tourism is way down, 297 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: and restaurants are closing and shops are closing, and they're 298 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: getting exactly what they deserve. 299 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 5: You know what really sucks also about that, just because 300 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 5: I have gone there and I've shot there, and I've 301 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 5: gone to restaurants there. The parking structures where you can 302 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 5: park are not expensive compared to other places in LA 303 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 5: So that that was one of the things that I 304 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 5: actually liked. I can go to great restaurants and I 305 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 5: can shop, and I don't have to pay a fortune 306 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 5: for parking. 307 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: But they had the mental patients and the drug addicts 308 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: living there right in the Steroi Rights. 309 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 5: It wasn't always like that. 310 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 2: The stairwells smell like a feces urine. 311 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 5: I told you I was there a few weeks ago 312 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 5: and I parked one of those structures. 313 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,239 Speaker 1: And if at one time I poked my head and 314 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: there's there's bedding all over the place. And so they 315 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: actively live there and know the police don't come and 316 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: take those people away. They just let them live in there. 317 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: So I you know, there's no woman wants to get 318 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: raped in a stairwell by a crazed drug addict. So 319 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: you can't go into the Santa Monica parking garage, and 320 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: that's what's going to happen. And that's what's happened to 321 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: some women. They've gotten they've gotten physically attacked in Santa Monica. 322 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 2: It's just a now, you know, And I'm going to 323 00:17:58,440 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 2: keep pointing this. 324 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: Out because I've had it up to up to here 325 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: with Karen Bass's stupid fake press conferences about her inside 326 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: safe garbage and the success of her homeless programs. Now 327 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: they're a tremendous failure. And here's an example. I want 328 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: to play cut number of four in just a second, 329 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: Channel four. This is the real story when you hear 330 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: her carrying on about the inside safe hoax. Robert Lipkin 331 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: owns warehouses in downtown LA and listen to what he's 332 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: had to go through, and listen to how Karen Bass 333 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: and the rest of the city bureaucracy does not respond. 334 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 6: It has become a site that is all too familiar 335 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 6: in parts of downtown Los Angeles. The sidewalks barely visible, 336 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 6: covered by homeless encampments, tents, furniture and broken appliances piled high, 337 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 6: and motor homes parked along the street for months on end. 338 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 7: I just don't know how this can allow to continue. 339 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 6: Robert Lipkin owns two warehouses on Fourteenth Street and leases 340 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 6: them out to produce distributors. But the situation with the encampments, 341 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 6: Robert says, has gotten so bad it's affecting business and safety. 342 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 7: There's raw sewage being dumped on the streets. They steal 343 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 7: water from the fire hydrants, and they crawl up the 344 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,719 Speaker 7: holes and have wires and get electricity. One fella had 345 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 7: a gun one day waving at this tenant. The police 346 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 7: arrested him and it was back here in a couple 347 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 7: of days, the same manner. 348 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 6: NBC Four reached out to Councilwoman Isabelle Herado, who represents 349 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 6: this district, and received an email from her office that reads, 350 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 6: in part, sanitation crews have conducted multiple cleanups at these 351 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 6: locations in recent months to address ongoing health and safety concerns, 352 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 6: but according to Robert, this hasn't happened. 353 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 7: I'll come down here and wait for them on the 354 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 7: given day and they never show. Then when I do 355 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 7: get a hold of them and they say, oh sorry, 356 00:19:58,760 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 7: we just couldn't make it. 357 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 6: Robert shared several emails he sent to Herado's office in 358 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 6: recent weeks. He says no one has come to clean 359 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 6: the area all year. Robert says one of his tenants 360 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 6: is leaving and now he's worried about the building stained vacant, 361 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 6: and if this happens, he says, he won't be able 362 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 6: to financially stay afloat. 363 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 7: I tried to sell the property. I couldn't handle it 364 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 7: any longer. I almost went broke when this was vacant 365 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 7: for two years. I couldn't even find anybody that would 366 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 7: want to even buy it. My broker brought people over 367 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 7: and they would just leave Vivan Right now, he's bringing 368 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 7: people to try to take this space here, and he's 369 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 7: had several people that are very interested, and as soon 370 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 7: as they come around the corner, they go, no, I 371 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 7: don't want to do this. 372 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 6: And Carolyn, Robert says, this truck was intact just a 373 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 6: few days ago and since then it's been stripped down, 374 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 6: taken apart, and he says sold four parts. We're still 375 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 6: waiting to confirm these details, but Robert's says he's really 376 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 6: at a loss and wants the city again to do something. 377 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: That's NBC four Darsha Phillips reporting on that one. Well, 378 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: Robert Lipkin is stuck down with warehouses that nobody's gonna 379 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: buy because the rest of us are sane, you see, 380 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: and Karen Bass is insane and Isabel Herado is insane, 381 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: and they are not going to fix the situation because 382 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: they don't care, and they're just they're gonna lie from 383 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: sunrise to sunset, and. 384 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: The news media is going to print their lies. 385 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: And you're stuck with warehouses that are unusable because what 386 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: did he say? As soon as potential buyers see the neighborhood, 387 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: it's like, oh no, no, that's how bad it is. 388 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: In seconds, Oh no, I can't do this isabel Herado 389 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: is a completely useless city council person. She's on the 390 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: side of the drug addicts and the viagrants. Those that's nobility. 391 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: Same thing with Karen Bass. They don't care. The belief 392 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 1: system of progressives are you divide the world into oppressors 393 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: and the oppressed. The drug addicts and the mental patients 394 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: and the vagrants are the oppressed. Business owners and residents. 395 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: We're the oppressors, so we have to concede the land, 396 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: the neighborhoods to the oppressed. That's what Isabelle Herado lead 397 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: and it is insane. That's what she believes. That's what 398 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: Karen Pass believes. There's no getting through to them or 399 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: to their staffs. They'll just lie to the reporters. They'll 400 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 1: say what they have to say. They'll do a cleanup 401 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: once in a while that everybody comes back. Same thing 402 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: in Santa Monica. It's the same philosophy. They are among 403 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: six out of the seven city council people. This is 404 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: an impenetrable philosophy. There's nothing you can You can vote 405 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: them out, but most of the public is too stupid 406 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: and too ignorant to do so. Apparently, big cities in 407 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: southern California have a preponderance of the stupid. And then 408 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: you go to other towns. I mentioned the Manhattan Beach. 409 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: Here in Burbank where we work, there's no problems. I 410 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: was in Orange County over the weekend. There's no problems, 411 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: and not no problems. But you know, you go to 412 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: the cities along the beach there and everything's beautiful. They 413 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: had these problems in Santa Monica and in downtown LA 414 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: because you have a progressive philosophy that embraces the drug 415 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: addicts and the mental patients and the vagrants. Those in 416 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: their pyramid, those people are the ones that they want 417 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: to protect from us, the oppressors. That's their philosophy. I'm 418 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: not making this up. That's what they say, that's what 419 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: they believe. Just look around. Karen Bass is going to 420 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: lie till the day she dies about this. There is 421 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: no inside safe program that works. It's a load of crap. 422 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: Her statistic sticks or a load of crap. The people 423 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: at LASA wanted a buster over her stupid statistics. The 424 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 1: whistleblowers they used to work at LASA and they were 425 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: shut down. So unfortunately, it's nice to have that one 426 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: report from NBC four. But all the TV stations could 427 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: be doing this all day, every day, and maybe if 428 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: there was a sustained attack on this corrupt administration and 429 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: the corrupt city council, maybe there'd be some changes. 430 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 431 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 4: six forty. 432 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: We're on every day from one until four o'clock. Oh Moistline. 433 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: If you're really good, you can still get on the 434 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: moist Line eight seven seven moist eighty six. You can 435 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: be a part of things. You just have to bring 436 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: the goods eight seven seven moist eighty six. Or use 437 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: the talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. Gavin Newsom has 438 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: wasted a trem mendous amount of money, so has the 439 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: federal government on green energy. And I'm going to give 440 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: you an example. A lot of people don't want to 441 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: believe this, but if you go out in the Jave Desert, 442 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: there is something called the ivan Pah or the Ivanpah 443 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: Solar Power Facility. It has three four hundred and fifty 444 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: nine foot towers, thousands of computer controlled mirrors. They're called heliostats, 445 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: and these mirrors collect the heat on these towers the 446 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: sunlight rather and it eventually it transmits solar energy. It 447 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: cost over two billion dollars to build. They started constructing 448 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: in twenty ten, completed in twenty fourteen. It's now going 449 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: to be closing. You believe this two billion dollars. Its closing. 450 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: It was it failed to efficiently generate solar energy. Obama 451 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: in twenty eleven issued a billion and a half dollars 452 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: in three federal loan guarantees for the project. The Secretary 453 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: of Energy at the time, Ernest Monies, said it was 454 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: an example of how America is becoming a world leader 455 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: in solar energy, and now it's closing up. Jason Isaac 456 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: is CEO of the American Energy Institute, and he says 457 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: Ivanpah or Ivan Pah stands as a testament to the 458 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 1: waste and inefficiency of government subsidized energy schemes. It never 459 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: lived up to its promises, produced less electricity than expected, 460 00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: and relied on natural gas to stay in opera. It 461 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: was the world's largest solar plant in twenty fourteen, and 462 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: it seemed like this was the big wet dream that 463 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: Jerry Brown and Gavenuso had. It's near the California Nevada border, 464 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: about an hour out of Las Vegas. And I guess 465 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: I guess you could. You can see this. I've never 466 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: really noticed it. They have one hundred and seventy three 467 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: thousand of these mirrors adjusted by a computer to catch 468 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: the maximum sun rays, and the temperatures can reach a 469 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: thousand degrees because of all the concentrated heat. And they 470 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: thought they could use the sun to produce a heat source. 471 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: The mirrors reflect the heat from the sun to a receiver, 472 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: and that heat's a fluid. It creates steam that spins 473 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: a turbine. It's complicated and the whole process didn't produce 474 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: much energy, and now they're shutting it down just but hey, 475 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: you know the guys who built it, they all got rich. 476 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: They got a lot of money out of it. That 477 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: was our tax money. Another big green energy scam. And 478 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: when Trump says this, everybody scoffs at him and mocks him. 479 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: It's like right here in California, largest solar energy plant 480 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: in the world and big loser getting shut down. Didn't 481 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: make energy. Deborah arc live in the KFI twenty four 482 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: hour newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt 483 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: Show podcast. You can always hear the show live on 484 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: KFI Am six forty from one to four pm every 485 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: Monday through Friday, and of course anytime on demand on 486 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app