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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Unplugged and congratulations to the New York

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Speaker 1: Knicks twenty twenty six twenty twenty six NBA champions. But

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Speaker 1: before we get into that, the internet has been buzzing,

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Speaker 1: respectfully to what the Knicks have been able to accomplish.

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Speaker 1: But I don't want to call it the narrative on Wemby,

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Speaker 1: but just kind of how he was an NBA darling

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Speaker 1: since he's been in the league heading into the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and then the playoffs come, and it's almost like some

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Speaker 1: of the media's kind of flipped the whole persona and

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Speaker 1: try to magnify all the stuff he has and hasn't done.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to get into that today, all right

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Speaker 1: now with my guy Nate. Nate's in the game today.

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Speaker 1: He's got his own microphone today, so it's time for

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Speaker 1: us to work. Nate, what you got for me?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: So let's just look at Wenby. It's his third year,

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Speaker 3: he makes his first NBA playoffs, he goes to the finals,

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Speaker 3: his first trip to the playoffs, and during that timeline

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Speaker 3: he's a multi time All Star, Rookie of the Year,

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Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year, he made First Team All NBA,

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Speaker 3: and all defense, so great start for him. Did him

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Speaker 3: go into the finals like negatively impact him? Because if

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Speaker 3: he lost in the conference finals, would we feel this

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Speaker 3: way about Wemby that we do now?

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Speaker 1: I definitely don't think going to the finals that's what

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Speaker 1: you want every year as a player on give fuck

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Speaker 1: what's going on. But what I will say, I want

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Speaker 1: to start this segment off by saying I feel like,

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Speaker 1: and I say this respectfull as possible to san Antonio,

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Speaker 1: I feel like they overachieved this year. Like I felt

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Speaker 1: like everyone thought this team was going to be there

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Speaker 1: maybe two years, maybe three years, but they knew this

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Speaker 1: corps was going I don't think anyone knew how good

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Speaker 1: Dylan Harper was, and we'll obviously get into that. So

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Speaker 1: I almost looked at this finals and that this is

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Speaker 1: taking nothing away from the next day earned. They definitely

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Speaker 1: earned this shit, But I felt like, and you never

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Speaker 1: don't ever want to take a final appearance for granted,

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Speaker 1: but I almost felt like they were playing with house

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Speaker 1: money a little bit this time, because, like I said,

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Speaker 1: if they are able to keep this young core together

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Speaker 1: and healthy, we know they're going to be one of

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Speaker 3: But did playing with house money kind of affect them

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Speaker 3: because they had double digit leads.

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Speaker 1: I think they were playing with young money. I think

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Speaker 1: word to young money. I think there were just so

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Speaker 1: many situations where obviously they'd come out strong. I think

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Speaker 1: they led in every first quarter, had double digit leads.

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Speaker 1: I think in for the five games or all five

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Speaker 1: twenty nine at one point. But it's just the young

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Speaker 1: You don't want to call it dumb, but we used

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Speaker 1: to call it young dumb shit, Unnecessary turnovers, you know,

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Speaker 1: bad decisions. You know when they hit the NBA record

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Speaker 1: for threes in the first half and come out and

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Speaker 1: I think start oh for eight or oh for nine.

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Speaker 1: And some of that's on coaching too. I think this

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Speaker 1: experience overall is going to help the San Antonio Spurs.

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Speaker 1: They're young stars, their coaching staff, and I think they're

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Speaker 3: So with that, they got a lot of spotlight. It

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Speaker 3: was the biggest Finals viewership why since nineteen ninety eight,

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Speaker 3: So fans seem to love the Knicks obviously the Spurs

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Speaker 3: being in the finals, but yes, as you said, within

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Speaker 3: the span of a couple of weeks. It feels like

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Speaker 3: people turned down Memby and and there, but there was

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Speaker 3: some things that people could hang their hat on.

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Speaker 1: Definitely, most importantly names name did and let let's talk

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Speaker 3: There was the play that wasn't called where where Brunson

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Speaker 3: and him got tangled up and he kind of swiped

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Speaker 1: He didn't swipe down had an he pushed his hand. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: But a lot of people were upset about that and

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Speaker 3: felt like the treatment that Wenby was getting wasn't how

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Speaker 2: What else.

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Speaker 1: There's the elbow with.

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Speaker 3: The red elbow that was I believe you know in

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Speaker 3: game five, Game four, Game.

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Speaker 1: Five, okay, okay, what else not shake? And I heard

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Speaker 3: That that was the that was I think the biggest

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Speaker 3: thing about that was he didn't shake anyone's hand. And

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Speaker 3: there's a video there's a video clip of Jeremy Sohan,

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Speaker 3: who's now in the Knicks, his former teammate, tries to

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Speaker 3: it looked like really everyone did interesting there was. There

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Speaker 3: was definitely some bad blood. And if you go back

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Speaker 3: in time, there's a game where Brunson does his career

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Speaker 3: high m hmm, and it was against the Spurs and

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Speaker 3: Wenby throws the ball into the stand. So there's some

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if there's friction there. I just

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Speaker 3: But when Brunson's doing the cheers after he won the

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Speaker 3: title and they all say fuck Wenby, like there's something there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, obviously because of the way he acted.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not mad at that. I think Wenby wears

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Speaker 1: his heart on his sleeve. If you if we rewind

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Speaker 1: back to last summer, what he was on with the

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Speaker 1: with the monks and the Buddhists. And I don't want

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Speaker 1: to disrespect nobody with KG Shaver's head dreams yoga Jamal.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's on some other ship right now,

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Speaker 1: and I think that there's may be a little barrier

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Speaker 1: expecting in our culture how people superstar should move and

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Speaker 1: what they should and shouldn't do. But I don't think

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Speaker 1: he gives a fuck about none of that. Okay, at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, the one thing I will

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Speaker 1: say is obviously he did mush Brunson and he did Elbow,

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Speaker 1: nas reed. But if you paid attention to San Antonio

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Speaker 1: this year, everybody's goal every single game was to put

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Speaker 1: a body on Winby, get him off his game, put

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Speaker 1: a body on Wimby. He's long, he's incredible, but he

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Speaker 1: you know, he's not as big as he's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: I know that's what our game planning to be. Elbow

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Speaker 1: fit within that. People were taking a lot of cheap

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Speaker 1: got to the point where end of the season, I'm

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Speaker 1: worn out them shots are starting to hurt more like

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Speaker 1: fuck these motherfuckers, Like you're gonna take a cheap shot

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna mush Brunson. And to me, I want that

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Speaker 1: from my superstar because he's not a pump like Wemby

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Speaker 1: is not taking no shit. He's not claiming to be

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Speaker 1: that's all I see out of it. Yeah, some of

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Speaker 1: it's young acting, or some could call it immature, or

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Speaker 1: maybe he just doesn't understand the culture. But I think

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I think he's on

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Speaker 1: fuck everybody but my team. I'm not here to make friends.

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Speaker 1: I'm here to be the greatest player, one of the

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Speaker 1: greatest players ever in win championships.

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Speaker 3: What about just kind of the adversity face. And there

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Speaker 3: was the Game two blunder where he had the turnover,

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Speaker 3: you know, the blowing leads. They had the biggest lead

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I think a lot of this. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I also think it's Mitch Johnson. This is new, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's a young with the thirty thirty five.

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Speaker 3: He's under forty's one of the young.

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Speaker 1: And obviously he's very talented. And I want to compare

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Speaker 1: felt like he had a time like this in Boston.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember who they played, maybe as a seventy

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Speaker 1: got completely out coached. And I'm not saying Mitch got

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Speaker 1: was things that the team did that were very young

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Speaker 1: most threes in the first half, like thirteen threes, and

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Speaker 1: nine from the three point line, like if after I'm

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Speaker 1: a coach, after three of those motherfuckers, I'm calling a

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Speaker 1: we hit a lot of threes. They're not going right now.

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Speaker 1: That's not the only thing we do. Let me get

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Speaker 1: a pick and roll with Harper and Wimby and then

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Speaker 1: play out of that. But I'm not going to continue

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Speaker 1: to let my team shoot that many threes as the

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Speaker 1: other team is scoring. So again, I think this is

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Speaker 1: a huge learning experience for both sides. I think that

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Speaker 1: Dylan Harper's absolutely amazing, absolutely amazing. I don't think anyone

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Speaker 1: knocking down big shots, but also playing defense. I love

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Speaker 1: that Castle was up and down. But Castle showed his

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Speaker 1: talent and you know he is going to be a monster. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Wimby was Wimby. I think he got tired in the finals.

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Speaker 3: I mean he definitely did. We just look at the.

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Speaker 1: Pats, look at the Yeah, I mean read him out.

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Speaker 3: Eight points a game. He shot thirty four percent from

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Speaker 3: the field, twenty five from three. He was a minus twenty.

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Speaker 1: How many games did he play this year? Because someone

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Speaker 3: He hit the sixty five threshold because he was eligible

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Speaker 3: for the awards, so he played a lot. But this

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Speaker 3: is the most minutes he had played.

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Speaker 1: Sixty four games out of eighty two plus all playoff games. Right,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I just think when we got tied. This

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Speaker 1: And traditionally, if you see a center that gets a

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Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year, he's controlling the paint. Wemby's

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Speaker 1: from half court to half court. On both sides, he's

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Speaker 1: full court. On offense, he brings the ball up, but

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Speaker 1: on defense he will pick you up right and eat

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Speaker 1: half court. So I think his ability to switch out

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Speaker 1: and guard guards and contest shots but also protect the

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Speaker 1: all that to say like that defense side as a monster,

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Speaker 1: and then let's be honest. Offensively, he's playing off just

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Speaker 1: raw god given town run. He has shit in his bag.

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Speaker 1: Do not get me wrong, But I when I say that,

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Speaker 1: I feel like he's going to get so much better

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Speaker 1: with his footwork, figuring out where his two or three

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Speaker 1: counter move to that is. Everyone's done him who he

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Speaker 1: needs to be, Kevin Durant or Tim Guard, Kevin Garnett.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be who the fuck he's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: But he just has to simplify his game. And I

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Speaker 1: think LaMarcus all just talked about this when we when

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Speaker 1: we sat down with him. But Winmy's gonna be a problem.

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Speaker 3: If you just look at Webby in total, he's twenty

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Speaker 3: Skip Bayless has got a new hit you know, new

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Speaker 3: Well, and there's some receipts too, Like respectfully, the plan

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Speaker 1: And I think, but maybe two episodes, I said, they

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Speaker 1: So I feel I feel like that's, you know, similar

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Speaker 3: How would you kind of assess Wenby's first postseason and incredible,

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Speaker 1: Credible, he's young, you know what I mean? It reminds

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Speaker 1: but let's keep it real. Defensive Player of the Year,

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Speaker 3: Was I believe in the second or third round, semi finals.

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Speaker 3: But what about kind of you said incredible, But what

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Speaker 3: Game designated vet slot. So, as I said, Wenby's twenty

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Speaker 3: foregone conclusion. Most people think, oh, he'll be back, no worries.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, you never take it for granted.

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Speaker 1: You never know. There's been greats that have been there

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Speaker 2: Oh it's right here.

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Speaker 1: I mean you know, CP got there with Phoenix, Reggie

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean Stockton was there more than one time.

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Speaker 3: So Knick's first title since nineteen seventy three big drought.

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Speaker 1: I was listening to that dumb shit.

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Speaker 3: But Brunson in a forty five piece in a closeout game.

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Speaker 3: You know, this is fourth year with the Knicks, he

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Speaker 1: I was once anay sayer, and it wasn't in a

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Speaker 1: He went out there and he fucking let his team

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nineteen seventy three, it's a long time. This was

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Speaker 3: Do you feel like now since they've won that title

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Speaker 1: Like, first of all, they're not gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: whether you say gave away or the Knicks took that shit,

435
00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,360
Speaker 1: the Knicks handled their business. Combination of both probably, Yeah,

436
00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:26,320
Speaker 1: two things can be true.

437
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Speaker 2: Nick.

438
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So a lot of conversation around Brunson has kind

439
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Speaker 3: of been where does he rank as the best Nick

440
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Speaker 3: of all time? I don't I don't want to do

441
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Speaker 3: that right now. I want to ask you where we

442
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Speaker 3: look at Brunson's career now against some of the smaller

443
00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,600
Speaker 3: guards historically in the NBA. So first I want to

444
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Speaker 3: bring up Steve Nash, two time NBA chant or NBA MVP,

445
00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,480
Speaker 3: excuse me, never made it to the finals. One of

446
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Speaker 3: the best point guards of the modern era. I'm curious

447
00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,600
Speaker 3: where you think Brunson kind of stacks up historically.

448
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Speaker 1: It's tough because we're looking at guys who've got a

449
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Speaker 1: career of work. What's Brunson in your six seven? What

450
00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,560
Speaker 1: year's in eighth year?

451
00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,040
Speaker 3: This is his ac So it's a split between half

452
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Speaker 3: Dallas half.

453
00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so almost you know, he's, you know, halfway through

454
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Speaker 1: his career, almost at the midpoint part of his career.

455
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Speaker 1: And then we're looking at full bodies of work of

456
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Speaker 1: Steve Nash had a whole career to do what he accomplished.

457
00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,920
Speaker 1: Alan Iris in the same Stockton CP they had a

458
00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,680
Speaker 1: whole career to prove, you know, their worth. But I think,

459
00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,920
Speaker 1: you know, I think he's on a great path. He

460
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Speaker 1: won a championship for the Knicks, so that's gonna you know,

461
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Speaker 1: that's gonna boost any and everything he's done. Will he

462
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Speaker 1: get another one. We'll have to see. I think the

463
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Speaker 1: Knicks got a very good team. They just won a championship.

464
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Speaker 1: But there's a lot of other teams. Giannie is, you know,

465
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Speaker 1: in the market, and we're hearing a bunch of stuff

466
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Speaker 1: that we'll talk about a little bit later. But where

467
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Speaker 1: does he ranking? Is he better than Nash? It depends

468
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Speaker 1: on what you're looking for. I think they're two different players.

469
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Speaker 1: Nash is someone who is a knockdown three point shooter,

470
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Speaker 1: someone who is a ninety percent free throw shooter, and

471
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Speaker 1: someone who gets his teammates involved. Brunson is a scoring guard.

472
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Speaker 1: There's no mistake about it. His first look at the basket,

473
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Speaker 1: a second look at the basket, the third looks at

474
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Speaker 1: the basket, then he's looking for his teammates. And I'm

475
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Speaker 1: not mad at that because he's really good and inefficient

476
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Speaker 1: when it matters. When it comes to that. Alan Iverson,

477
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Speaker 1: I've heard this debate. Is is he better than Ai?

478
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Speaker 1: Is he a better score than Ai? It's different because

479
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Speaker 1: AI's era was a seven footer in the paint every night.

480
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,119
Speaker 1: He's not going to be outside the paint and you

481
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Speaker 1: got to score over him. Plus the two guys better

482
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Speaker 1: guarding you, you know, check checking you stronger, different type

483
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Speaker 1: of defenses, you know what I mean, The young motherfucker's

484
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Speaker 1: gonna get you, defender. It was a different type of

485
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Speaker 1: physicality back then when Alan Iverson was doing what he

486
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Speaker 1: was doing.

487
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Speaker 3: But you can speak to that, Matt, because you played in.

488
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Speaker 1: I sat on the bench for two years in Philly

489
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Speaker 1: and watched Alan Iverson and heying what the fuck he

490
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Speaker 1: had to go through and how beat up his huge

491
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 1: bursts of saxon his elbows and his hipsaw fucking black

492
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Speaker 1: and blue and limping around the whole day and then

493
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 1: wants a light surround. The adrenaline came on. He was

494
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,119
Speaker 1: a fucking monster. So it's hard to say, you know

495
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Speaker 1: what I mean.

496
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Speaker 3: You're saying no to Ai. Let's just be honest.

497
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm not putting him above I'm not putting

498
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Speaker 1: him above Ai Stockton.

499
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Speaker 3: Two final trips. No one's touching his assist record.

500
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Speaker 1: One of the greatest. But played with you know are

501
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Speaker 1: you be one of the greatest power forwards to ever

502
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Speaker 1: play the game. He had a lot of numbers to him,

503
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 1: but yeah, assists and steals. U Stockton was a gamer

504
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 1: and Stockton was a motherfucker, you know what I mean.

505
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Speaker 1: And I was younger, but I still had a strong

506
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Speaker 1: appreciation for Stockton and he was on both ends of

507
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,439
Speaker 1: the ball too, you know what I mean. So do

508
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,360
Speaker 1: you value an old school point guard sussess at table

509
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 1: and knocks down the shots when he needs to and

510
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Speaker 1: plays defense, or do you value someone like Brunson. They

511
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: just gave you forty five in a closeout game, you

512
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's those are two different players.

513
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Speaker 1: And then CP three, someone I played with. I think

514
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Speaker 1: CP just had bad luck, you know. I think he

515
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Speaker 1: played on you know, a few teams that were good

516
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Speaker 1: enough to do it but didn't. But again, nine time

517
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Speaker 1: All Defensive Player, you know, several time All Stars just

518
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 1: never won the big game. So I don't know. I

519
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: just think it's, you know, we always want to rank

520
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: people and and and and who's better this and with

521
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 1: this word? Does he sit instead of just kind of

522
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,360
Speaker 1: celebrating what happened, you know what I mean. I think

523
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 1: we don't have to shop on anyone, and we're not shitting.

524
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 1: You don't have to shoot on anybody in the past

525
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: to celebrate how motherfucking amazing Jayalen Brunson was this run man,

526
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: so so salute to him and is in his squad.

527
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Speaker 3: So you're not ready to claim that Brunton's better than

528
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Speaker 3: most of these guys that we just named.

529
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Speaker 1: I'm not yet. Okay, I'm not yet. But he has

530
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 1: one more championship than them, you know what I mean.

531
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Speaker 1: So I will definitely give him that. And he still

532
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Speaker 1: has hopefully eight to ten years left to play to

533
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Speaker 1: grab you know, another one or two. So I think

534
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Speaker 1: it's hard to right now, at his kind of midway

535
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Speaker 1: point of his career, to kind of put him ahead

536
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Speaker 1: of any of these great players.

537
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Speaker 3: I think it's safe to say, though, Brunston's not a

538
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Speaker 3: guy that came into the league that we thought a

539
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Speaker 3: lot about because he was the second round draft.

540
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Speaker 1: One the greatest second round him, Draymond Minu. We talked

541
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Speaker 1: about this yea as well. Yo Kitsch is the second

542
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Speaker 1: round pick absolutely and to me, probably out of all them,

543
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 1: probably the most impressive because his size, you know what

544
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: I mean, And he's not athletic, but he's got no

545
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: holes in his offensive game. But but he's he is a

546
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: target on defense, and I think that's something in the

547
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 1: offseason he's gonna have to continue to work on and

548
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: get his feet tired, but to carry a whole offense

549
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: the way he does. I mean, that's shape. I always

550
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: tell my kids, I mean being in I think people

551
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: underestimate how important being in great shape is during the season.

552
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: So especially with guys that Wemby and Brunston. Not to

553
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: say they weren't, but I think they both have to

554
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 1: take their shape to another level because they do so

555
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 1: much for their teams.

556
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Speaker 3: And the Knicks had the luxury they were mostly healthy

557
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 3: throughout the postseason that historically doesn't always happen.

558
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Speaker 1: It takes a ton of luck. Yeah, it takes a

559
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: ton of luck to win a championship, obviously, you know,

560
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 1: you look at down the line, there's always kind of

561
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: been a theme or you know, when the Raptors won

562
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Speaker 1: the championship and Katie, you know, I mean there's always

563
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: people heard and people not at their not at one

564
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: hundred percent. But that's why you say it takes a

565
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: lot of luck to win. It's your luck, and then

566
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: it's the luck of your opponents. Guys, key, guys not

567
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 1: being healthy.

568
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Speaker 3: All right, Well, shout out to the Knicks. Yeah, eight

569
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 3: straight years we've had a different NBA chance.

570
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: Sixteen and three eight straight years, there's a lot of parody.

571
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: I think the game is better when it's like that.

572
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: The game is back to very balanced, and I love

573
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: because it's hard to tell. There's no clear cut favorites

574
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: no more. There's a time where the Warriors or the

575
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: clearcut favorite every year and the Lakers, you know what

576
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 1: I mean? So now every because I don't think anyone picked.

577
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 1: Whoever bet on these two teams getting season may bread

578
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 1: because although we thought San Antonio good, I don't think

579
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: anyone thought they were going to be okay. See, I

580
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 1: definitely didn't think the Knicks we're going to get out

581
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: of the Eastern Conference, you know what I mean? So

582
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: whoever bet on them is definitely chipped up. But well,

583
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: it takes all. Yeah, it takes a lot of luck,

584
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: and obviously, you know, health and and playing well and

585
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: a good team to do it. And they definitely did

586
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Speaker 1: it all. Right.

587
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Speaker 3: Now, let's shift to the off season. Now, I got

588
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 3: two more things and we'll get up out of here.

589
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 3: The biggest thing kind of going around right now is

590
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 3: the Yannis Sweepstakes. The Celtics and the Miami Heat, or

591
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 3: the two teams rumored right now that seem in the

592
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 3: best position to get Yannis. This is extension eligible after

593
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 3: next year. He's got one more year left on his deal,

594
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: So that's kind of how trades work now. But the

595
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 3: guy being dangled in this discussion is Jalen Brown, who

596
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 3: was top six and MVP voting, made second Team All NBA.

597
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: Should have been the first team All NBA. I everready

598
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 1: put him in front of Luca this year, but go ahead.

599
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 3: But so he's being dangled in this trade, and like,

600
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Speaker 3: I'm just curious what you think if you were in

601
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Speaker 3: Jalen Brown's position of, Hey, we came to the season

602
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Speaker 3: not expected to do much and I got us to

603
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 3: the second seed in the in the conference, but they

604
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 3: did blow a three to one lead and maybe they

605
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 3: need to retool some things in that sixer series. But

606
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,239
Speaker 3: how would you feel if you're Jalen Brown and your

607
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 3: name's getting floated out here?

608
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: Like see, But I wonder, is this Boston because Boston

609
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: has always been an organization they kept their hand close

610
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Speaker 1: to the chest. Or is this just the media they're

611
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: putting these scenarios out there. Either way, let's just go

612
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Speaker 1: with the scenario that Boston is doing their due diligence,

613
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Speaker 1: and he is on the table for a young this

614
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: and that. I said, like maybe a month ago, the

615
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: only person I would consider putting Jayden Brown on the

616
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: table for is Johnnas. But I think Jayden Brown has

617
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: the right to feel every way he should feel. This

618
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: is supposed to be a terrible year for the Celtics.

619
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Speaker 1: I mean, they lost Tatum and then they lost who are.

620
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 3: The Holiday left? Porzingis left, Horford left? I mean your

621
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 3: core talking about for their top six guys.

622
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown, that's what he carried that team the entire season.

623
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Speaker 1: But I think you know what's interesting about this, and

624
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: we talk about this. Before they won a championship, the

625
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: media was trying to tear those two apart.

626
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 3: They still are.

627
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 1: They can't win well, they're back to doing it now.

628
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: They can't win together. There's this or that, they're not this,

629
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: they're not that, And they proved everyone wrong and won

630
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: a championship. And I firmly believe that's what should happen now.

631
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 1: But this is a different time. But also know Jayden

632
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: Brown is a very intelligent But it'll be interesting to

633
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: see because I was with the Lakers when the Lakers

634
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: tried to trade Pow and Lamar Odom for CP and

635
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: that shit got blocked, and that it fucked the whole

636
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: energy of the team up. The guys looked at everyone like,

637
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: you know, you're trying to trade me now.

638
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,959
Speaker 3: Lamar was never the same after that.

639
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: Lamar was never the same after that. So it's going

640
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: to be interesting to see how deep this goes. But shit,

641
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: if it's time for him to go, it's time from

642
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: to go, you know what I mean. I would love

643
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: to see them run it back with the healthy Tatum

644
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: and them just continuing to get better, you know, the

645
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: way Joe Mizoola coaches that group. I think they need

646
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: a little bit more defense out there. They got a

647
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: lot of shooting, but they need some defense. But I

648
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: would love to see him running back. But then again,

649
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Speaker 1: you talk about the opportunity to get a Giannis. Giannis

650
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Speaker 1: is thirty one. I mean, you're fourteen years in the league.

651
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he'll be entering fourteen periods.

652
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Speaker 1: What scares me is the last few years of Giannis

653
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: and his you know, his the calves and and achilles.

654
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: You know, didn't tear an achille.

655
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 3: But lower leg injury. He had multiple you know what

656
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 3: I mean?

657
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: And we see how he plays. His game is downhill

658
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: one hundred miles an hour. And his relentlessness and strength

659
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 1: and skill and desire to dunk that bitch on you.

660
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 1: That's what his game is, you know what I mean.

661
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 1: So you look at that and if you get the

662
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: prime Giannis and Boston absolutely, I mean he's obvious. He's

663
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: what top five and MBV voting every year he plays

664
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: enough games. I mean, Giannis is incredible. But again, what

665
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: scares me is, you know what we've seen the past

666
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: couple of years with him just not being as healthy.

667
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: And then again, I think Jayden Brown is you know

668
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: he I think he should have been the first team

669
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Speaker 1: All NBA with this. But he's definitely a top ten

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Speaker 1: player in the league. And if it's time for him

671
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: to go, and you know, you get you're hearing the

672
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Speaker 1: Clippers name thrown in there to get him Kawhi and

673
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Speaker 1: in Garland.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the Clippers would send that fifth pick

675
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Speaker 3: over to to Milwaukee, which you know, you would have

676
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 3: a fifth and the tenth pick if you did do that.

677
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 3: This is a deep There's some other pieces that would

678
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: need to be added, some first round picks and.

679
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Speaker 1: Stuff I would love. I mean, if if Jalen Brown

680
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Speaker 1: has to go, which which I wouldn't want him to,

681
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: but if he does go, and that's the that's the

682
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Speaker 1: scenario where Johnnis goes to Boston and he goes to

683
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Speaker 1: the Clippers. I mean, I think that's you know, that's

684
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: a good trade form.

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Speaker 3: So the scenarios out there where Jalen Brown will get

686
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Speaker 3: routed would be the Clippers is a scenario. Atlanta is

687
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 3: also a scenario. You think that Clippers for Jallea Brown

688
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 3: would be the best kind of situations.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think him and Kawhi two of the better

690
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: two way guys in the league. Kawhi played a long,

691
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: you know, good amount of games last year. Garland uh

692
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: is tough, super talented, So yeah, we'll h And I

693
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: think obviously LA business wise or Brown, you also got

694
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: to look at the other side that he's a monster

695
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: on is the business of basketball, and there's you know,

696
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: outside of New York, LA. Those are probably the two

697
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: biggest markets for that.

698
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Speaker 3: And for just Gianni's perspective getting out of Milwaukee going

699
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Speaker 3: to a new team, do you feel like Boston or

700
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Speaker 3: Miami is a better situation for him?

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Speaker 1: I think Boston because I think there's just obviously more.

702
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: You're gonna have Tatum there, You're gonna have Missoula there.

703
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: Miami Spolster is a great coach, but who is him?

704
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: And Bam? I think they bump heads a little bit.

705
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: They're looking to try to trade Charlie Hero So yeah,

706
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: I definitely think the Boston is a night and day

707
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: better situation for Giannis.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you want him to get traded though.

709
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely time for Giannis to go. Yeah, he's

710
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: he's done. He's won a championship there, he's you know,

711
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: put them back on the map. So he's done everything

712
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: you can do for an organization, So it's time to go,

713
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:03,959
Speaker 1: all right.

714
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 3: Lastly, the drops about a week away report came out

715
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Speaker 3: Darren Peterson only working out with the Wizards. They had

716
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Speaker 3: the number one pick. We had aj debatsa in here

717
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago. He feels like he's the

718
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 3: number one pick? Is this like a strange pr move

719
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Speaker 3: from Peterson to do this and basically try to force

720
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Speaker 3: the hand oft.

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Speaker 1: Of nobody's hand, just because you know, you see both

722
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Speaker 1: teams work out, I know what I mean. Some guys

723
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,719
Speaker 1: have a ton of workouts. You know, he's just like,

724
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm gonna work out for the number one

725
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: team and just showing what I got. They've seen what

726
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: AJ's done and and you know, to them to the

727
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Speaker 1: Wizards made the best guy go. You know you're hearing

728
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: Trey Young could be moving. Does that make you want

729
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: to take you know, maybe are they planning to take

730
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: Aj at one or or but honestly to be keep

731
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Speaker 1: it real. Although AJ said he won't excuse me. Yeah,

732
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Speaker 1: although AJ said he wants to go one, I mean

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Speaker 1: I think Utah is a better fit for him, and

734
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Speaker 1: he's already set up shop there. So if if, if,

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Speaker 1: if Darren Peterson does go one, I don't think it's

736
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Speaker 1: the worst thing. Yeah, I mean Peterson is super talented,

737
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, he had the cramping issue,

738
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: but there's no question about a skill set. AJ is talented.

739
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: You know you got boozer. Yeah, it's going to be

740
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Speaker 1: a fun draft, I think.

741
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Speaker 3: Do you think it's a little odd though for a

742
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 3: guy like this isn't a dead set year where it's

743
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 3: like a Wemby's number one or a Zion's number one,

744
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 3: Like there's some discussion about two guys here where most

745
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 3: people feel like AJ is the guy. Yeah, but Darren

746
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: is basically saying, Hey, I want to be that guy,

747
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: and I'm not going to work out with anyone else

748
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 3: that's in there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Darren is a score and that's what he does.

750
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: He puts the ball in the basket. AJ gives it

751
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: to you on both sides. Not to say Darren Peterson's

752
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: play defense, but AJ is is a problem on both sides.

753
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: So it just kind of depends on what who's the

754
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: second pick or who's the second team to pick Utah.

755
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: That's right, Utah, and then the third is.

756
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 3: Memphis, Memphis, and then a Chicago follows that.

757
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

758
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: I mean this is a very deep draft. It's going

759
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: to be a fun This is one of the most

760
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: talented drafts. I can. You know, recall, do.

761
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Speaker 3: You think Darren falls because of doing this? Do you

762
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: think he could fall to four or five and a

763
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 3: boozer sneaks into I don't think.

764
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: They're going to hold it against him. It just depends

765
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: on what a team needs, because this is a very

766
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: deep draft. So if he doesn't go one, if he

767
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: falls to three or four, I don't think it's because

768
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 1: teams are mad at him. I think they probably just

769
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: feel that, hey, who else was on the board was

770
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:13,719
Speaker 1: our target and we're going to get him.

771
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 3: Let me just ask this, if you were in the

772
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 3: camp of Peterson, would you advise kind of this?

773
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I would probably tell him to work out

774
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: for the top three teams, you know, because you know

775
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: most likely that's where he's going to be. But you know,

776
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: those teams like him. So I think I'm not mad

777
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: at it. I'm not mad at this move. Like I said,

778
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: AJ went to Washington, they saw what he had, and

779
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: Darren went to Washington. He show him what he had.

780
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: So he's putting pressure on them. Who's gonna go one?

781
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: But I don't see him falling out the top four.

782
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 3: It's also worth noting that Peterson did meet with Utah

783
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 3: when he was at the combine. He didn't privately work

784
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: out with him, That's what's being reported. So he did

785
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 3: have some communication with Utah. He's just not flying out

786
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 3: there and actually working out with him.

787
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: I think he'll be all right.

788
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: Is AJ still the number one pick?

789
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: To you?

790
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: I want to see AJ go to Utah, But is

791
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: he the number one pick? Anthony Davis is trying to leave.

792
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: You're hearing stuff about Trey young. Yeah, I think edge

793
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: of the number one. Last week I got a chance

794
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: to sit down with a potential top pick in the

795
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six NBA draft, Kingston Flemings. I hope you

796
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: guys enjoyed the conversation. Welcome back day one in La Jack.

797
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: We got a young boy here, one of the most

798
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: electrifying guards in college basketball. My brother one and done.

799
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show man, Kingston Flemings.

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00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: You're so.

801
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: Pre draft is a grind. You just got done working

802
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: out with the Clippers. How has this process been and

803
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: what have you kind of learned about yourself during this time?

804
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 4: It's been good.

805
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 5: I mean just seeing me and my brothers I've been

806
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 5: playing with growing up. Just seeing all of us compete

807
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 5: and being out there and just competing.

808
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 4: So definitely been fun.

809
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 5: You know, just work out my game, seeing the having

810
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 5: the NBA teams being able to see us, it's definitely

811
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 5: been good.

812
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: Do they do it how they did it back in

813
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: our days where they put all like three or four

814
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: point guards in one drafts and more individual stuff? These

815
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: days it's a little different.

816
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 5: I mean, a lot of people do individually now more

817
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 5: than I like the group.

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00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: I like somebody ahead.

819
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 5: I don't really understand the individual workout, but yeah, so

820
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 5: anyone can go out there and play, but they kind

821
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 5: of do it big and they like they try to

822
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 5: get like two guards big, kind of like just trying

823
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 5: to big matchups really play out of situations.

824
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: How many teams have you worked out for it? How

825
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: many do you plan to work out for.

826
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do like three to four, the Bulls and Clippers.

827
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 5: So far it's been good, both pretty competitive. They have

828
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 5: Bulls got four and Clippers five.

829
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: Okay, and then who else do you plan on working

830
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: out with?

831
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 5: I think I'm gonna do Dallas and one more.

832
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: Sure, got you enjoying it?

833
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been good.

834
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 5: It's exciting playing those guys for sure.

835
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Speaker 2: Yeah. He a competitive. I remember the ifoson game.

836
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 6: We were just constantly getting those guys about playing at

837
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 6: a high level and playing, you know, competing even though

838
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 6: it was all star game and he was one of

839
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 6: the main ones picking up full corporate. It's the two sides,

840
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 6: and you know, it used to be jack and we

841
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 6: played like you had to try to you know, you

842
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 6: had to compete on both sides. But now most of

843
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 6: the time you see guys on compete on one side,

844
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 6: to see someone that's talented as you are on the

845
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 6: offensive side also compete on the defensive side. I'm sure

846
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 6: that's what teams love. So talk about college, how was

847
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 6: your freshm Yia, How would you greade it?

848
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 5: I mean, I think it was good. Everything I expected.

849
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 5: I mean I had goals definitely going into it. I

850
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 5: mean I wasn't like under recruited anything like that, but

851
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 5: I mean I wasn't really known because I didn't really

852
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 5: play on any UIBL or Adidas anything like that. So

853
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 5: just going into Houston with coach Samp, just trying to

854
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 5: prove the player I was every day in practice is

855
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 5: going out there and competing in there.

856
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 4: I knew.

857
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 5: I mean my dad used to always say they can't

858
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 5: run forever, So I mean, I'm gonna play everyone in college.

859
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 5: So really went of that year just trying to do

860
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 5: everything I could and just go out there and win.

861
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: What circuit did you play on?

862
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 5: I was pooling my senior year every other year. I

863
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 5: was just independent, So really just if we could, we

864
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 5: would play some UBL teams, some Adidas teams if we could,

865
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 5: But a lot of times the matchups wouldn't get scheduled up,

866
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 5: but I could so.

867
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 6: Okay, sixteen points the game, five assists, thirty eight percent

868
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 6: from three All American, All Conference, y'all lost in the

869
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 6: sweet sixteen. Coach Sampson is somebody we had them show

870
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 6: and we highly respect. How is it playing from him?

871
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 6: And is anything key thing that you're taking with you

872
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 6: from school that you learned from him?

873
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely great.

874
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 5: I mean everyone knows the coach Coach samp is, so

875
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 5: I mean just going in the reason I chose him

876
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 5: just to grow me as a man, a player mentally really.

877
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 5: I mean I think a physical tools is one thing,

878
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 5: but you know, just being an everyday guy. He would

879
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 5: always say, you know, and then it's a big mental

880
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 5: part of being in basketball. So coach Sam knows that

881
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 5: he's been in the game for so long, So I

882
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 5: mean he definitely there was definitely days he's on me,

883
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 5: for sure, But I know he has love for me,

884
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 5: and I know he loves compete and that's what I

885
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 5: like to do.

886
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: So I think that's what kids have to understand, is

887
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: like you need to get worried if a coach doesn't

888
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 1: say nothing to you, like if he's on you, cussing

889
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: at you, challenging you. That means he sees something he

890
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: cares for sure.

891
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: Yep, he normally doesn't play freshmen.

892
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 6: But having assistant coaches like go Wire, guys who I

893
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 6: played with him, be having guys like that on the staff,

894
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 6: how did that help?

895
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 5: I mean it was great Goldie and coach Hollis, Yeah,

896
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 5: he's really good. I mean we worked out all the time,

897
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 5: so I mean them just showing me different things on

898
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 5: the court, you know, showing me back when they used

899
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 5: to play. Things they used to do that still work today.

900
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 5: I Mean the game it's changed a little bit, but

901
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 5: it's still the same. So, you know, just learning from

902
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 5: them and just you know, being humble. Really, I mean,

903
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 5: those players have played the players places I've never been.

904
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 5: They've gotten accolades I never got. So we're just sitting

905
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 5: down and listening to them. And then just how much

906
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 5: they wanted to help me, help me work. Really, I

907
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 5: was the thing, so I think, I mean the coaching

908
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 5: staff there definitely helped me.

909
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 4: So I'm grateful for all of them, for sure.

910
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 6: What's some of the craziest thing we know? Coach Sampson

911
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 6: has some craziest practice. You got any crazy drills are

912
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 6: crazy experiences from practice.

913
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 5: I mean a lot of teams can do the bubble

914
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 5: drill now or they put the bubble on it, shoot

915
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 5: it so no one could really score.

916
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 4: You just go and get rebounds.

917
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 3: We had a loose ball.

918
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 4: Loose ball drill or we line.

919
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 5: It up two guys just like one on one right,

920
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 5: you just go they roll it out. Yeah, you just wait,

921
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 5: dive and get it. So that was that was a

922
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 5: fun drill for sure. I mean definitely has some passes

923
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 5: like we getting into it, you know, me and some

924
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 5: of the players on the team. But it's all love

925
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 5: at the end of the day. So that's how it

926
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 5: was for me in high school and that's when I

927
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 5: first first college pass.

928
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 4: I went with Houston. It was just like that.

929
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 5: I mean it was the Austin Jamal Shed and jaywon

930
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 5: robbers he was competing, and I was like, yeah, this

931
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:00,959
Speaker 5: is the place for me for sure.

932
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 4: So I kind of knew what it was gonna be for.

933
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 2: Sure being in Texas.

934
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 6: Boy, how do you like Houston from Texastonio?

935
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 5: But it was great, I mean being home, my family

936
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 5: went to all the games. You know, it's definitely important

937
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 5: for me. But I mean we weren't really on campus

938
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 5: a lot, Like they kind of put us off campus

939
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 5: a little more safer because third ward it's not not

940
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 5: the safest place.

941
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was definitely good.

942
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 6: Texas got some great hoopers coming up in high school.

943
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 6: You you had a lot of guys coming out being

944
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 6: be able to play in U of h You know

945
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, in Texas and coming out now I

946
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 6: got a chance to go to the NBA.

947
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 2: Talk about that experience and how they feel.

948
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean obviously being from Texas, like you don't

949
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 5: got to go too far to play comp r Houston.

950
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 5: There's Dallas, so even growing up, we didn't even leave

951
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,479
Speaker 5: to stay a lot playing these people here. So I think,

952
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 5: I mean, Texas definitely one of the best hoop states

953
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 5: for sure. I mean, I'm going to Houston every single weekend.

954
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 5: We didn't play in Santonio too much. Going to Houston

955
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 5: playing up, you know, playing in Dallas and all those

956
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 5: people you kind of see young, you kind of see

957
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 5: them growing up, the same way you got Jermaine O'Neil Jr.

958
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 5: The Jaden tuonbs with as and you we got a

959
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 5: lot of these guys.

960
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 4: So I grew up.

961
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 5: Playing against So seeing them all you know, do great

962
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 5: in their own ways and being asked definitely surreal is great.

963
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: Who's the oldest player you played in college?

964
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 4: Oldest player?

965
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: And do you guys talk about that, because obviously that's

966
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: it's been a big thing about, you know.

967
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 2: Talking to I know you used you old man.

968
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: Obviously it's a big deal now with you know, guys

969
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: that have been in the G League and overseas and

970
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: doing all kinds of stuff trying to come back and play.

971
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 1: To me, a game that's supposed to be for late

972
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: teens early twenty kids to develop and hopefully take their

973
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: game to the next level. But there's a lot of

974
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 1: older guys in there with mortgages and spousal support.

975
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 5: So now we definitely played I think some fifth year,

976
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 5: six year guys. It's a little definitely crazy, But I mean,

977
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 5: I think it's it's good and bad. It's it's not

978
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 5: as good for the freshman coming in. Like I was

979
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 5: selling some people in high school, like unless you're like

980
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 5: the top of the top, you're.

981
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 4: Not going to recruit it. There's trances report on things

982
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 4: like that.

983
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 5: So but I mean, I do think college basketball has

984
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 5: been really high level because of the old the Europeans

985
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 5: coming in, the older people being there. So it was

986
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 5: good for me to be able to play, but I

987
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 5: definitely the service to some of the younger casts coming

988
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 5: in for sure.

989
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, you get injured, you got to say out a

990
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 6: couple of years like get it you want to. But

991
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 6: if you went and went to four different colleges, yeah,

992
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 6: got cut from three different teams and got a kid

993
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 6: at each.

994
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: College you got you come on, bro, it's over. Hang

995
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: it up. You're not gonna make it.

996
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 5: Bro.

997
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: I know you weren't in college for a long time,

998
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: but what was the best part while you're there? Outside

999
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: of basketball?

1000
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 4: I think it's just us as a team.

1001
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 5: I mean obviously playing Yeah, playing with coach samp it's

1002
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 5: it's hard every single day. So I mean a lot

1003
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 5: of times, like only real day we be able to

1004
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 5: do something with Saturdays, because Sundays you wake up and

1005
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 5: you start thinking, like it's twelve o'clock. You're like, man, tomorrow,

1006
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 5: we gotta run. It's like tomorrow is on it. So

1007
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 5: really Saturday was the only day we really like had

1008
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 5: it all to ourself. But I mean just growing as

1009
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 5: a team and we all went through the same experiences there,

1010
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 5: So it's definitely great. But love my teammates there and

1011
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 5: they welcomed me really well. I Mean there was no

1012
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 5: hard feelings with like you think in the NIL era,

1013
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 5: like people making money, people playing more. There was no

1014
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 5: horror feelings like Houston. So definitely great.

1015
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 2: Good.

1016
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: What's one thing you'll take with you from coach Sampson

1017
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: not only as a basketball player, but just as a

1018
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: man moving forward.

1019
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 5: I think just the EDG she has. I mean he

1020
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 5: had nothing given to him. Know, he just came from

1021
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 5: the bottom to the top. You know, really just how

1022
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 5: he sat down and worked and you know, just the

1023
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 5: way he does that. That's really how I've carried myself,

1024
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 5: you know, me and my parents. I mean, my dad's

1025
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 5: a fire party, mom's a nurse, so hard work. That's

1026
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 5: why I went to Houston in the first place. So

1027
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 5: and then just being an everyday guy. I mean, definitely

1028
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 5: going into there. I would had days in high school

1029
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 5: where I'm really on it one day, but I'm just

1030
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 5: inconsistent when you get to the next level, like inconsistency

1031
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 5: that gets you out.

1032
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 4: The league or whatever.

1033
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 5: So definitely going with coach sam Be kind of really

1034
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 5: taught me consistency. You know, being the same guy every

1035
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 5: single day and just how much he was on me.

1036
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 5: So I'm definitely gonna be there to the next level

1037
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 5: for sure.

1038
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: Congratulation goes out to your to your sister Bella one

1039
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: Texas State player of the Year obviously in your blood.

1040
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: Were you guys competitive playing against each other growing up?

1041
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely. I mean we played one on one a

1042
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 5: little bit, not too much, you know, my dad will

1043
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 5: kind of make her playing one on one against us.

1044
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 5: But competitive in the gym, working out, you know, when

1045
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 5: we had our own games, having you know, competitive points, rebounds,

1046
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 5: assist things like that. So growing up we were definitely competitive.

1047
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 5: You have a dunk not on her, but like when

1048
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 5: we playing on one dunkin and she's like, it's not

1049
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 5: fair like that, saying things like that.

1050
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 4: For sure.

1051
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: Does she know where she's going to school? Is she

1052
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: got one more year or she done?

1053
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 5: She's going to a duke? Actually, yeah, she made the

1054
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 5: USA team too. She's in Mexico right now.

1055
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 4: I think they'd be playing later.

1056
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because the guys just ended. The girls are

1057
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 1: going on right now. So you guys got a little

1058
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: bit of Cheryl Miller and Reggie Miller.

1059
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.

1060
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 5: I mean she made McDonald she made things I didn't

1061
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 5: even get to. She was McDonald All American obviously get

1062
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 5: her to play at the year Jordan Brand.

1063
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 4: But now she's a problem.

1064
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, the FEBA. So the guys just ended girls

1065
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: this week, did you say your son? Yeah, yeah, we

1066
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: were just out there in Mexico and Lyon. But yeah,

1067
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: tell us about your upbringing with you your siblings and

1068
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: how your parents raised you.

1069
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1070
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,959
Speaker 5: I got three younger sisters, one older brother. But my dad,

1071
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 5: you know, always being hard on this, you know, working

1072
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 5: out YMCA before school five point thirty, you know, before practice, shooting.

1073
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 4: So it was always like that.

1074
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 5: I mean he always talked about like he's not going

1075
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 5: to force us to do anything, but you know, once

1076
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 5: I said I want to through basketball, like we're keeping

1077
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 5: on it. So he really was on me for that,

1078
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 5: especially young because I mean, no one's born with just

1079
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 5: wanting to work, so.

1080
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 4: He kind of had to instill that with me.

1081
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 5: But obviously, like as I've gotten older and grown, I

1082
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 5: seen how much my parents work, you know, my my

1083
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 5: mom's and nurse dad the firefight, like I said, you know,

1084
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 5: twenty four hour shifts, and he would come up those

1085
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 5: shifts and straight get us into the gym, like y'all.

1086
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 4: Even I didn't used to even realize how tired he

1087
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 4: would be. That's probably why he was on me so much,

1088
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 4: because so just definitely caring that.

1089
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 5: I mean probably like junior years kind of when we

1090
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 5: stopped working out as much because I kind of develoved

1091
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 5: that by myself, you know, working out by myself, working

1092
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 5: hard like that.

1093
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 4: So definitely grateful for them for sure. Beautiful thing.

1094
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: Jaff around the corner, How are you feeling? Where do

1095
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: you think you're gonna go excited?

1096
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 5: I mean, I think I think I kind of know

1097
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 5: what range, and they four through ten around that range

1098
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 5: for sure. I mean, the teams have been working out

1099
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 5: with so I had a pretty good year, So I'm

1100
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 5: excited for that.

1101
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 2: That's the dream come true.

1102
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 6: Definitely top you know that nobody really thinks like growing

1103
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 6: up obviously if we want to go top ten, want

1104
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 6: to go lottery. So that's that's the dream coming true.

1105
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: But I also think to not necessarily. I mean, like

1106
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: you said, he wasn't under recruited, but he wasn't the

1107
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: recognition you with thacking just to go to school for

1108
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 1: one year and that'll be a top ten pick. It's incredible.

1109
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 2: Bro, who do you pat in your game?

1110
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 4: After a lot of d Rose? I love d Rose,

1111
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 4: my favorite player going up.

1112
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 5: I watched a lot of highlights of him, so see

1113
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 5: I always went number one up until college because one

1114
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 5: of the other teammates had it and I didn't really

1115
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 5: want to pay for the numbers. I was like, I'm

1116
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 5: just gonna get in the number. But d Rose, that's

1117
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 5: always been my guy. Right now in the NBA, like

1118
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 5: Kay Cunningham a lot Texas guy, Tyre's Maxi is really good.

1119
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 5: Case and Wallace with Thunder, So all those guys, you know,

1120
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 5: obviously different parts of each one of their games, but

1121
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 5: my favorite player all time definitely d Rose.

1122
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 6: You now that you say that, you remind me a

1123
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 6: lot of Case and Wallace. I coached both of you

1124
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 6: as game. Remind me a lot of him. Who you

1125
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 6: look forward to match up against in the league.

1126
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 5: Like I said, Tyres, Maxi, caseon Wallace, I mean growing

1127
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 5: up watching Stephan Lebron, I mean, playing them is definitely

1128
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 5: gonna be crazy. STEP's a little different because the off

1129
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 5: ball I mean, you know, I mean, garden people on

1130
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 5: ball is one thing, but it was running.

1131
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 4: Shoes and then Gon do all those screens.

1132
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 5: It's crazy, but I mean, definitely all those guys KD.

1133
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 5: I mean all those types of guys I watched growing up, definitely.

1134
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 2: Be surreal crazy played this Castle in Texas.

1135
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 4: I didn't.

1136
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 5: I played against Ron Holland and Castle played against Ron Holland,

1137
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 5: but I didn't.

1138
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 4: I didn't. I didn't know about him until Ukon. Really yeah, yeah.

1139
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: The teams really ask you this question, if you could

1140
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: punch anyone in the world, who would it be.

1141
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, the team asked me that at the combine. That

1142
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 5: was That was really the only weird question that teams

1143
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 5: asked me. Like, you know, my my dad and people

1144
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 5: were telling me like people asked a little weird questions,

1145
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 5: but I didn't. I didn't expect it, and that one

1146
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 5: was a little odd verse back when I was like,

1147
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 5: I asked them, they didn't want to answer.

1148
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 6: So yeah, the person who wrote this question, the person,

1149
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 6: the person, the person came up with this question.

1150
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: That's why I want to punch.

1151
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: As tell the team and the fan base of the

1152
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: organization what to expect with their team drafts.

1153
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: Shield.

1154
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 5: You're competitor and at both sides of the ball, offense, defense,

1155
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 5: whatever the team needs out of me. But I think

1156
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 5: every single year I'm in the league, I'm gonna get better.

1157
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 5: I mean what I am as a freshman or as

1158
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 5: I guess a rookie, it is knock when I'm gonna

1159
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 5: be on the fifth year. So definitely gonna be everything

1160
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 5: like that, and just constant getting better at my game.

1161
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 5: I mean, the three ball, getting to the rim, that

1162
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 5: locked down the fen, that's what you can get out

1163
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 5: of me.

1164
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: So obviously very dedicated. Uh and and and you know,

1165
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: great work ethic, But what do you do to take

1166
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: your mind off of basketball?

1167
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 5: Hanging out with family obviously, I mean I got a

1168
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 5: lot of siblings, So hanging out with them, calling them

1169
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 5: friends back in college, you know, whatever we're doing the

1170
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 5: whether we're on the game, whether.

1171
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 4: We're just talking about hoops, watching games.

1172
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 5: So definitely just getting my way away from basketball for sure.

1173
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 6: Nineteen when boom we won the championship around but I

1174
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 6: was changing to that.

1175
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: Hey, I did some straight to them streets.

1176
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 6: If you see little DIDs and all that shit, I

1177
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 6: did all that.

1178
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 2: All the holes that was me.

1179
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 1: That was me. Face first and all right, quick hitters.

1180
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: First thing to come to mind. Let us know, m

1181
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: J Kobe, Bron rank.

1182
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 4: Them, Let's say Bron, MJ Kobe.

1183
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: One album you can listen to on repeat?

1184
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 5: Twenty fourteen Forest Hill Drive J Cole, J Cole?

1185
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: What kind of music do you listen to or who

1186
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: do you listen to before a game?

1187
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 4: By J Cole Lil Wayne Them?

1188
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah you did because AJ told us murder music. Somebody

1189
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: has to die in every ball.

1190
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 4: No, I'm definitely.

1191
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 5: I definitely listened to the song that like the sound

1192
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 5: and what they're saying and the lyrics.

1193
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 4: Definitely a little more before the game.

1194
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you talking any shoe companies yet? Yeah?

1195
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 2: A few?

1196
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 4: I mean a little few.

1197
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 5: I mean we're kind of going through some things talking Yeah,

1198
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 5: Wayne them through and I haven't like decided on one

1199
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 5: place yet, but definitely when it's just grateful for it

1200
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 5: to be in this position for sure.

1201
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

1202
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: What's your go to scoring movie?

1203
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 5: Probably say a downhill you know, cross jab you know,

1204
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 5: I'm I'll use my speed a lot.

1205
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 2: I spend a lot too.

1206
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, so downhill, cross jab or overcross, anything that could

1207
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 5: just keep me moving.

1208
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 4: Really, I like planning tradition a lot.

1209
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 6: If you can see what guests on our show, who

1210
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 6: would it be? But you have to help us get

1211
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 6: your answer on the.

1212
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 5: Show, Guests like a Cup would be a good person

1213
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 5: on this nice for sure? Yeah, I mean he's a

1214
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 5: problem here. It's nice obviously. We played each other in

1215
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 5: high school. I mean, if a get on this for

1216
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 5: sure at the office game, yeah, I've seen them. We

1217
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 5: play each other in college. Love matching up with him.

1218
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 2: He's a problem.

1219
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: Well, kingsonman, congratulations on a solid college one and done.

1220
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: You're off to the next of your dreams, man, becoming

1221
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,959
Speaker 1: true soon. When's the Draft twenty third?

1222
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1223
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: I know, you know, yeah, man, you get a chance to,

1224
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: you know, make your friends come true, change your life,

1225
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: change your family's life.

1226
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 2: Man.

1227
00:48:53,840 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: So we wish an nothing but success. That's a rap,

1228
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: Kingston Fleming. You can catch this on All the Smoke

1229
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 1: YouTube and the Draft Kings Network. We'll see y'all next week, sir,