WEBVTT - TechStuff Predicts 2014

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<v Speaker 1>Get in text with technology with text Stuff from half Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy New Year, everyone, and welcome to tex Stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>am Jonathan Strickland and I'm Lauren. And you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>that time that we like to put off as long

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<v Speaker 1>as we possibly can, where tech Stuff puts on its

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<v Speaker 1>prognosticator hat, stairs into the future and says, what's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>happen y'all? Now before we even start to reveal some

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<v Speaker 1>of the predictions we have made for the next year

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of different things. Instead of our usual approach

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<v Speaker 1>where we just alternate back and forth, but we've actually

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<v Speaker 1>kind of divided up our predictions into different categories. We

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<v Speaker 1>talked about them beforehand a little bit enough to see

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<v Speaker 1>where we had overlap and just to organize this so

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<v Speaker 1>that it doesn't end up being, oh, you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you made that prediction about such and such, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a prediction. You know, we wanted it to be nice

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<v Speaker 1>and clean and also keeping line that we are recording

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<v Speaker 1>this particular episode on December twelve, two thirteen, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>coming to you from the past, Yes, from the incredible past.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a possibility example, an asteroid in the latter

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<v Speaker 1>half of December fell on Facebook, Facebook headquarters then and

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<v Speaker 1>we make a prediction about Facebook that obviously could not

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<v Speaker 1>come true because of those facts. Uh, that's why it

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't happened to us yet. Yes, the same sort of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>like there's um specifically, there's a bit about Microsoft and

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<v Speaker 1>it's CEO, which that answered that question. May be resolved

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<v Speaker 1>before we go into the new year. It would surprise me,

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<v Speaker 1>but it might not, like it won't. But um, so

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<v Speaker 1>my first prediction is about Facebook. What Okay, so what

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<v Speaker 1>is your prediction. My prediction is that is that will

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<v Speaker 1>be the year that Facebook goes into serious decline. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's big. That's a big prediction. I I know

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<v Speaker 1>that it's the ruler. It is a bold prediction, um.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that it is very much right now

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<v Speaker 1>the ruler of the social media platform roost um as

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<v Speaker 1>of this podcast. As of September anyway, Um, they had

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<v Speaker 1>seven seven million daily active users on average and uh

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<v Speaker 1>one point one nine billion monthly active users. And okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's a bunch of people, y'all. I understand that. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, and I'm not saying that there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a mass exodus. I'm not going to say

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<v Speaker 1>that like, by the end there'll be three people on

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook and one of the will be your mom. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, you know, I think that I think the

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to stay on Facebook as a personal identifier,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think that right now, it is really the

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<v Speaker 1>social network that is used by I mean, obviously is

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<v Speaker 1>used by most human people as a kind of base present.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, but I think that people are going to

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<v Speaker 1>start moving to other platforms, uh Tumbler, Twitter, I'm not sure. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, even even Facebook themselves. During a third

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<v Speaker 1>to earnings call, chief financial officer David A. Ebersman acknowledged

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<v Speaker 1>that Facebook had been seeing a decrease in daily users,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially Americans around the thirteen to fourteen years of

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<v Speaker 1>age kind of brains. So it may be that we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a shift because as the demographic gets older,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't see an influx of new users, and the

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<v Speaker 1>people who start to go away aren't being replaced by

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<v Speaker 1>by new folks, right right, And you know, like people

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<v Speaker 1>aren't deleting accounts yet, but they are checking the site

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<v Speaker 1>less often. And meanwhile, Twitter's audience is starting to skew

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<v Speaker 1>younger than the rest of the entire Internet. And see

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's certain things I think that really feed

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<v Speaker 1>into this. I mean, there there there's more and more

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<v Speaker 1>information that comes out that makes it plain to the

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<v Speaker 1>average user what Facebook, you know, why? Why how Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>makes their money? I mean, the fact is that the

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<v Speaker 1>users are actually the product, right, That's what Facebook is

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<v Speaker 1>selling and serving advertising to to those users. And how

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<v Speaker 1>it does. Yeah, and they you know, doing things like

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<v Speaker 1>having AutoPlay videos happen in the news feed, including possibly

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<v Speaker 1>AutoPlay ads. That's not necessarily a feature that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of users are going to like. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on the on the corporate side, anyone who's or just

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<v Speaker 1>on the organizational side, anyone who has a Facebook page

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<v Speaker 1>as and not not their own personal page, but a

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<v Speaker 1>page for something a brand or a band or whatever. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they are discovering this getting harder and harder to hit

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<v Speaker 1>their reach. Like they might have thousands of fans who

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<v Speaker 1>are following them, but when they post a tiny percentage

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<v Speaker 1>of those people are seeing whatever those posts are, uns

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<v Speaker 1>they pay money to pay it out to more to

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<v Speaker 1>more users. Yeah and um, and all of this I

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<v Speaker 1>think is making making Facebook seem more more corporate and

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<v Speaker 1>less like a like an innovative play space to those

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<v Speaker 1>really critical younger users. Right, So unless something major changes

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<v Speaker 1>that you see Facebook having at least uh a market decline,

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<v Speaker 1>some thing that we could look at and say, all right, here,

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<v Speaker 1>here are some quantifiable numbers that show that it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a great year. I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>have a poor year. I I do not. I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>in good conscience predicted that, um that either Tumbler or

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter or snapchatter, etcetera going to overtake Facebook in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of user numbers. But um, but I think that any

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<v Speaker 1>any one at least some probably Twitter, okay probably Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>will will seem more daily action than Facebook will. Gotcha. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>along those same story of lines, my social media prediction

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<v Speaker 1>is that we're going to see more of the types

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<v Speaker 1>of social media platforms that allow you to post things

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<v Speaker 1>for just a specific amount of time and then after

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<v Speaker 1>that time it's gone. So Snapchat mission impossible. Message that Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>within thirty seconds of message self destructs. Yeah, because Snapchat.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've ever seen it or used it.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually haven't, which means that I'm really old and uncool. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It all depends on the kind of friends you have.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's your experience of Snapchat is going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>But the idea being that you know, you can take

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<v Speaker 1>a picture and share it with your group of friends

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<v Speaker 1>on Snapchat, and it only exists for a set number

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<v Speaker 1>of seconds, and you can determine how long it exists,

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<v Speaker 1>and after that it deletes itself and the person cannot

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<v Speaker 1>go and look at it again. And uh So in

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<v Speaker 1>that case, it may be that we're going to see

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<v Speaker 1>more and more of these sorts of social media um platforms, partly,

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<v Speaker 1>I think because we've got some people who are starting

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<v Speaker 1>to finally care about privacy, especially in light of things

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<v Speaker 1>like the n Essay story from those fifteen, which I

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<v Speaker 1>know is going to keep on going. So I predict

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<v Speaker 1>that by the end often we're going to see other

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<v Speaker 1>several other social media platforms that have the sort of

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<v Speaker 1>temporary presence where you can post something and then not

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<v Speaker 1>worry about it haunting you later because it's gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>away um And so we should have a few of

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<v Speaker 1>those by the end of twenty four. Team And in

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<v Speaker 1>defense of this, one of one of the news items

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<v Speaker 1>that has happened over the past couple of months, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>only white who was the former um, Facebook director of

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<v Speaker 1>Business Operations with with Instagram. UM Instagram within Facebook, UM

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<v Speaker 1>left to become the CEO of Snapchat Snapchat, so that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as as of the last round of investment,

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<v Speaker 1>they had raised some like seventy million dollars. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's definitely interest there. And Snapchat skews younger, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so uh in the same sort of thing, like I

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<v Speaker 1>think Instagram is another one of those things that had

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's skewed younger too, and then Facebook was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's let's move in on that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>people are like, oh, you got Facebook on my Instagram. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so let's move on. We have a different

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<v Speaker 1>category you want to talk about now, hardware. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a prediction that UM that devices that the rule

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<v Speaker 1>of device sales in is going to be price over quality.

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<v Speaker 1>So something that's less expensive is going to be more

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<v Speaker 1>popular than something that is by some measure made better,

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<v Speaker 1>right and UM. And furthermore that UM that that in

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<v Speaker 1>this trend, Apple is going to lose market share to

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<v Speaker 1>to Android. UM. And you know, I mean, okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>so I think that I think the mobile devices are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be really big. That's not really a prediction

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<v Speaker 1>as much as like duh um, because everyone wants it

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<v Speaker 1>portable and plans are still expensive. And so I think

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<v Speaker 1>that that the entry price of the device itself is

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<v Speaker 1>really going to be become the divider among the winners

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<v Speaker 1>and losers here UM, and that you know, the push

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be for creators to to be streamlining

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<v Speaker 1>their components UM rather than really innovating new technology, and

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<v Speaker 1>and that that kind of sucks for everyone. However, I

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<v Speaker 1>do think it's going to be awesome for software because

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<v Speaker 1>more people are going to need to be creating, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>creating programs that make more efficient use of what they

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<v Speaker 1>have to work with. And you know, if you if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at what how Apple has behaved in the

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<v Speaker 1>last quarter of that's not a big you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not a big jump from that. You know, you had

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<v Speaker 1>Apple for the first time offering a lower cost version

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<v Speaker 1>of the iPhone at the same time as an updated version,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, out of the gate, not not discounting an

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<v Speaker 1>older model, but rather coming out with a new lower

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<v Speaker 1>price model. UM. So you know, it may very well

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<v Speaker 1>be that they're they're seeing something similar in the future. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they think that they got scared this year,

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<v Speaker 1>they um you know, they dropped from almost of the

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<v Speaker 1>market share in late back down to um more like

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<v Speaker 1>which was their end of year numbers, and so that's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, so they're they're kind of hovering around

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<v Speaker 1>the same spot and occasionally seeing a little boost every

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<v Speaker 1>now and then. So my prediction was that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I bet I'm going to see a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>smart TVs at c e S when you guys who

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<v Speaker 1>are listening to this, I'll be at c e S

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<v Speaker 1>next week and um from when we're recording this, it

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<v Speaker 1>will be several weeks either way. My feet are all

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<v Speaker 1>a hurting in anticipation. But at any rate, uh, smart

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<v Speaker 1>TVs or something, I expect I'll see a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>We've already seen examples of the plenty of them in

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<v Speaker 1>the past, but we're gonna see it more and more

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<v Speaker 1>of those where the smart television stuff is incorporated directly

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<v Speaker 1>into the TVs. I still don't think it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>really take off, partly because you know, there's not like

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<v Speaker 1>a unified experience out there. Obviously, any particular vendor is

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<v Speaker 1>going to have their own kind of application software, their

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<v Speaker 1>own user interface, and that's going to cause things to

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<v Speaker 1>slow down. It's not gonna be a fast adoption. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't think, I mean, unless someone has come up

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<v Speaker 1>with a truly innovative approach, I don't think it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be enough to start selling lots of TV sets.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that things like consoles are going to hold

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<v Speaker 1>that still. You know Xbox one for example. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's way too many smart boxes or or media consoles

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<v Speaker 1>that can do this kind of thing. And TVs are

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<v Speaker 1>such a big purchase um for for for most people

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<v Speaker 1>to to make right now, you know, the same way

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<v Speaker 1>that I think that price is going to drive uh

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<v Speaker 1>mobile cells. Yeah, sales, it's going to be kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. But I'm wondering if such a big

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<v Speaker 1>ticket unitasker is ever going to take off honestly, unless

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<v Speaker 1>companies stop making non smart TVs, right if if Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be one way forcing everyone to move to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Another way is if you open up your your user

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<v Speaker 1>interface enough so that lots of different types of devices

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<v Speaker 1>can interact with it. Because when you restrict it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you forced someone to go into one ecosystem. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>great for the consumer. So my prediction ultimately is that

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<v Speaker 1>by the end of the year, smart TVs on the

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<v Speaker 1>consumer market will not be a huge deal. Like, it

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<v Speaker 1>won't be It won't be an industry that takes off

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<v Speaker 1>like tablets did. Um, and I think it's if they

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<v Speaker 1>are going to take off, it won't be okay. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>My next hardware related uh prediction is that and and

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<v Speaker 1>actually this is one that both of us had really

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<v Speaker 1>had to be to be entirely fair, um, is that

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<v Speaker 1>fitness trackers are going to really take off. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>not that they not that they have not taken off already,

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<v Speaker 1>but that, um, that the kind of people who are

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<v Speaker 1>not the early adopters of technology, like like like your

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<v Speaker 1>grandma is going to have one of these. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>proliferation of these is going to be insane in fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>is essentially what the prediction is. I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually went further and saying that it would be

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<v Speaker 1>wearable computing in general, although I think out of the

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<v Speaker 1>entire wearable computing industry, the fitness trackers are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the one that take the lead. They They've to me,

0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.240
<v Speaker 1>the fitness trackers have done this better than the other

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<v Speaker 1>types of wearable computing, and by that I mean specifically

0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:30.920
<v Speaker 1>smart watches, I mean, and also, fitness trackers have the

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<v Speaker 1>benefit of UM of being able to specialize, whereas I

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<v Speaker 1>think that smart watches are trying to do a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things, especially for the processor size that they have

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<v Speaker 1>to work with UM. And and also I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>know you can with with a with a fitness tracker,

0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.480
<v Speaker 1>you can really get get it down to to a

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<v Speaker 1>size that it can wear and look like jewelry, which

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<v Speaker 1>is what more people out there. I mean, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>as much as I do love the the kind of

0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.560
<v Speaker 1>quirky eighties design aesthetic of the pebble, that's not something

0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that everybody wants to wear. It's not the sleekest of profiles.

0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:04.280
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I understand, I agree, And so I think

0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I think we are going to see a big jump

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<v Speaker 1>I think wearable computers, whereas I think smart TVs are

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be the tablet of I think wearable

0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:16.360
<v Speaker 1>computers are going to be the tablet often. I'm hoping

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<v Speaker 1>that someone is able to make a smart watch that

0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:23.080
<v Speaker 1>really resonates with the general market and not just you know,

0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:26.720
<v Speaker 1>geeky tech guys like me. I would love to see

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<v Speaker 1>that happen. I don't know if it's going to happen,

0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.200
<v Speaker 1>But I am pretty confident that wearable computers in general

0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:34.400
<v Speaker 1>are gonna be crazy popular. Yeah, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's um. Tim Bahran for PC mag was predicting that

0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.600
<v Speaker 1>smart watches are going to die in and I think

0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:43.920
<v Speaker 1>that that's way overly pessimistic. Yeah, I mean, I understand

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<v Speaker 1>where that comes from, in the sense that a lot

0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:47.400
<v Speaker 1>of the smart watches that have come out so far

0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:51.320
<v Speaker 1>just haven't really captured imagination. But every time, you know,

0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:53.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've still seen ads where they have the

0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Dick Tracy wrist watch in the ad, and I'm thinking, like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an idea that isn't gonna die. As soon

0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:03.360
<v Speaker 1>as someone figures out how to really tap into it,

0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:05.800
<v Speaker 1>that market takes off. It's just that I don't think

0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:10.200
<v Speaker 1>anyone's created the implementation where everybody wants one. We haven't

0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:14.160
<v Speaker 1>found the iPhone right exactly, That's exactly it. Um. So

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<v Speaker 1>my next prediction is one that I had for twenty

0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:21.280
<v Speaker 1>thirteen that I'm I'm centually saying dido on, which is,

0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:25.440
<v Speaker 1>remember remember when I predicted that in NFC technology wasn't

0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:28.040
<v Speaker 1>really going to go anywhere in the United States? Did over.

0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's gonna happen. Uh. The technology itself

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<v Speaker 1>is fine, It's just that I don't think anyone is

0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:37.760
<v Speaker 1>ready to adopt it. It's not in enough handsets for

0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:41.040
<v Speaker 1>it to be have a penetration level where vendors are

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<v Speaker 1>going to spend the money to upgrade to get NFC

0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.720
<v Speaker 1>technology into theirs. You know, you're gonna see it in places,

0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:50.080
<v Speaker 1>but not it's not gonna be widespread. And Uh. Also,

0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I think it's possible that we never see NFC takeoff

0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:56.240
<v Speaker 1>in the United States and instead have to wait for

0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:59.880
<v Speaker 1>some other technology that essentially does the similar thing but

0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.000
<v Speaker 1>through a different implementation. So in other words, like NFC

0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:04.960
<v Speaker 1>is just one of those things that could have worked

0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:07.040
<v Speaker 1>had we invested the money in it, but we just

0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:10.240
<v Speaker 1>never did, and then eventually some other technology overtook it,

0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:13.120
<v Speaker 1>and that's what we went with. That's what I'm not

0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.400
<v Speaker 1>saying that we're going to get that technology inteen. I

0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.440
<v Speaker 1>just don't see NFC going anywhere. Sure, no, I agree,

0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.720
<v Speaker 1>and that is basically all that I have. You you

0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.720
<v Speaker 1>just said everything that I have to say about it. Um.

0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:27.040
<v Speaker 1>So my next hardware prediction a lot of these are hardware, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>is that the the PC is going to continue its decline. Um,

0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:36.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, as as tablets get get cheaper and more capable, Um,

0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:39.160
<v Speaker 1>the that that that drop off And by PC I

0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:42.760
<v Speaker 1>mean PC and laptop this time. Actually, UM, it's just

0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:44.920
<v Speaker 1>just going to continue to decrease. You know, people are

0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:48.080
<v Speaker 1>going to be holding on to to their heavy duty

0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.800
<v Speaker 1>tech like that for longer in an attempt to save

0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:52.560
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more money and turning to some of

0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:56.120
<v Speaker 1>these incredibly cheap mobile devices in order to satisfy some

0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:59.240
<v Speaker 1>of their new gadget cravings. I completely agree. In fact,

0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:03.160
<v Speaker 1>there's a little subnote in our notes where it's almost

0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.800
<v Speaker 1>the same wording, where I'm like, yeah, PC sales are

0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:10.160
<v Speaker 1>going to continue to decline in UH, that doesn't necessarily

0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.520
<v Speaker 1>mean that every UH computer manufacturer is going to see

0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:17.560
<v Speaker 1>a decline. It's possible that Apple might actually do fairly well.

0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.359
<v Speaker 1>And the reason why I say that is that, UH,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm in a position where I want to buy

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to invest in a new computer, then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>probably going to try and go for something that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>that I perceived to be a truly a powerful, high

0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:38.360
<v Speaker 1>quality computer. And whether whether you agree that Apple products

0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.600
<v Speaker 1>are that high quality that's the public perception, right or

0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:43.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, at least something comparable. And I think that

0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Apple is is a little bit more um user friendly

0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.080
<v Speaker 1>than like, I don't know, like like alien ware or

0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:51.920
<v Speaker 1>something like. Well, I certainly have like that aesthetic is

0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:55.720
<v Speaker 1>really appealing. It's it's impossible to deny how appealing that

0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:59.560
<v Speaker 1>their design aesthetic, as Johnny ives is a genius and

0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:02.960
<v Speaker 1>so um, you know, and and again like guys, I'm

0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.560
<v Speaker 1>not an Apple fanboy. So before all the people out

0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:07.320
<v Speaker 1>there who want to call me an Apple fan boy

0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:10.440
<v Speaker 1>right in remember this is the same guy who back

0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:14.159
<v Speaker 1>in the day was lambasted on iTunes for having a

0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:18.240
<v Speaker 1>quote anti mac bias. In the quote he still makes

0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.879
<v Speaker 1>fun of me for having an iPhone. Sometimes I'm not

0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:24.760
<v Speaker 1>fun of my wife too, so but but yeah, it's this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is backed up by a little bit number. The

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<v Speaker 1>I d C is predicting a six percent to climb

0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.560
<v Speaker 1>in PC sales next year, which is better than this

0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:32.639
<v Speaker 1>year's ten percent to climb in piece of sales. So

0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:34.960
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be declining, but not as quickly. Yeah, so

0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:37.800
<v Speaker 1>that's good news. Um, But they're also predicting the worldwide

0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:41.360
<v Speaker 1>tablet sales will grow by eighteen percent, in smartphones by

0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:44.800
<v Speaker 1>a twelve percent. Right. I don't think that two for

0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:47.600
<v Speaker 1>one devices are going to save laptops either. There are

0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:49.800
<v Speaker 1>several that we've seen in the past where it's a

0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:52.399
<v Speaker 1>tablet that can convert to a laptop or vice versa.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily think that those are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a huge hit, mostly because their price point tends to

0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:00.159
<v Speaker 1>be higher than what a tablet on its own would be.

0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.679
<v Speaker 1>And going back to your price versus quality type argument,

0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.760
<v Speaker 1>even if you were to demonstrably prove that the two

0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.800
<v Speaker 1>and one is a better quality machine, I think a

0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:11.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of people will be like, yeah, I just don't need,

0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:14.080
<v Speaker 1>don't care. Yeah. Um and and actually this this wasn't

0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:16.479
<v Speaker 1>recorded in the notes that we shared earlier, but if

0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I can make a very bold related prediction to all

0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:21.840
<v Speaker 1>of this, um, I think that Windows is going to

0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:26.880
<v Speaker 1>get shunted out of the tablet market. I cannot imagine

0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:31.000
<v Speaker 1>what they could possibly do to attract enough developers. Yeah,

0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:33.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, at this point, they would have to have

0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:37.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of other manufacturers buy into the Windows eight

0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:41.720
<v Speaker 1>operating system. Because the surface just hasn't done it. The

0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:46.320
<v Speaker 1>surface has not really performed very well in the market

0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:49.200
<v Speaker 1>compared to other tablets. And it's not that, you know,

0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:52.280
<v Speaker 1>the surface is a bad product, it just hasn't caught on. Yeah.

0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Uh you know, I think the Windows eight is part

0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:56.720
<v Speaker 1>of that problem. But I'll talk more about that in

0:18:56.800 --> 0:19:00.640
<v Speaker 1>a minute. So going on to another where this might

0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:03.160
<v Speaker 1>sound a little weird for it to be a hardware thing,

0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:05.000
<v Speaker 1>but it kind of fits in. We didn't have a

0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:08.800
<v Speaker 1>category that fit in better, so we put it in here. Uh.

0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I said that we're going to see a lot more

0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:15.320
<v Speaker 1>autonomous car technology incorporated into the models of cars that

0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:17.720
<v Speaker 1>are coming out this year. We're gonna see a lot

0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:21.520
<v Speaker 1>more of that, things like collision detection, parking assistance, that

0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:25.600
<v Speaker 1>sort of stuff, lane assistance, but we will not see

0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:29.679
<v Speaker 1>a fully autonomous car on the consumer market. Absolutely not.

0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:32.359
<v Speaker 1>Now I completely agree with this one. Everyone's talking like

0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:35.720
<v Speaker 1>ten years for a completely autonomous car and um and

0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:38.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, even though we've already got cool stuff like

0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:41.000
<v Speaker 1>like Mercedes has a steering assist which uses a radar

0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:44.440
<v Speaker 1>to detect the speed of traffic around you, and stereoscopic

0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:47.199
<v Speaker 1>cameras mounted in front of the windshields were mirror that

0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:50.480
<v Speaker 1>monitor your position within a lane. Um, and and we'll

0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:52.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of beep angrily at you if you if you

0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:53.680
<v Speaker 1>move out of it. I mean that that kind of

0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:56.920
<v Speaker 1>stuff is is amazing and really cool and helps with

0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:59.280
<v Speaker 1>with safety standards and all of that is beautiful. But

0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:02.159
<v Speaker 1>and I do think that that kind of like you

0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:06.000
<v Speaker 1>were saying, yeah, line is going to see incorporation of

0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:07.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot more of those kind of things, and a

0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:12.200
<v Speaker 1>lot more less than Mercedes Class kind of sure. Yeah,

0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like you know, Toyota was working on all

0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:17.640
<v Speaker 1>this stuff where it be a collision detection for pedestrians,

0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:19.879
<v Speaker 1>like what the pedestrian is crossing the street that the

0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:22.800
<v Speaker 1>car itself could detect and even slam on the brakes

0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:27.040
<v Speaker 1>without you having having even noticed yet. So that sort

0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:29.720
<v Speaker 1>of thing. I can see that kind of stuff being incorporated. Again,

0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:33.400
<v Speaker 1>not fully autonomous car, but a lot of these these

0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:36.560
<v Speaker 1>various pieces that are necessary for an autonomous car to

0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:41.159
<v Speaker 1>work will be incorporated into more and more cars. Um

0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Our next note is gaming hardware, um the PS four

0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:47.600
<v Speaker 1>versus the Xbox One. And I'm sorry, we you you're

0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:50.600
<v Speaker 1>just not even in this equation right now, um, But

0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's really hard to make a prediction

0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:55.560
<v Speaker 1>on this one because Microsoft is being squirrely about their

0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:58.080
<v Speaker 1>numbers as of this recording, and there aren't a lot

0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:01.199
<v Speaker 1>of compelling games for either cons all right now, so

0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:04.880
<v Speaker 1>far the sales seem about equivalent. Um. But but I'm

0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:07.400
<v Speaker 1>going to go ahead and predict that I think that Xbox,

0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:12.840
<v Speaker 1>with its kind of family media center, uh, is going

0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:15.640
<v Speaker 1>to wind up being the winner of this game. It's

0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:18.840
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting because this is a strategy we've seen incorporated

0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:21.080
<v Speaker 1>over and over, and it might be that we're finally

0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:24.240
<v Speaker 1>at the point where it will work. Because if you remember,

0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:26.440
<v Speaker 1>all the way back in the three d O days,

0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:29.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean we're telling the nineties, we had companies coming

0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:31.080
<v Speaker 1>out with gaming consoles that were meant to be the

0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:35.720
<v Speaker 1>entertainment center, but they were so expensive and so I

0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:40.720
<v Speaker 1>mean just poorly executed. Yeah, they were mishandled on multiple ends.

0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:44.000
<v Speaker 1>They were badly marketed. They had some terrible games with

0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:47.240
<v Speaker 1>lots of full motion video and them for no reason. Um.

0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:49.560
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, and we might finally be at the point

0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:52.200
<v Speaker 1>where all of that doesn't matter and and this could

0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:55.560
<v Speaker 1>actually take off. I you know, I don't know. I'm wondering.

0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:57.439
<v Speaker 1>I think personally, if I'm going to make a prediction.

0:21:57.480 --> 0:22:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll say that by the end of fourteen, uh, the

0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:03.919
<v Speaker 1>PS four and Xbox one will be more or less

0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:07.199
<v Speaker 1>on equal footing, assuming that they get the titles that

0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:08.960
<v Speaker 1>they want to get. I assume they're going to be

0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:11.840
<v Speaker 1>more or less in equal footing. Um, and that to

0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:15.679
<v Speaker 1>see a true leader in that space is going to

0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:18.760
<v Speaker 1>probably require more like three or four years. Wow. Yeah, no,

0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:20.639
<v Speaker 1>that's that's fair. I mean, and I do think that

0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:22.439
<v Speaker 1>the PS four is going to be more successful with

0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:25.439
<v Speaker 1>gamers because from what I've heard so far, it seems

0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:29.120
<v Speaker 1>like they've got a much better developer lineup. Oh yeah,

0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:33.440
<v Speaker 1>they cater to gamers, and they also cater to independent developers, yeah,

0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:36.200
<v Speaker 1>which which I think is is going to really help

0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:38.080
<v Speaker 1>them out. And I mean, I mean help them make

0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:41.639
<v Speaker 1>a name for themselves within the rest of the independent

0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.960
<v Speaker 1>console sector and and and hopefully I mean for them

0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:47.919
<v Speaker 1>from the point of of of Sony beat out some

0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:52.280
<v Speaker 1>of those smaller right. They also finally made a controller

0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:56.480
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't make my hands cry after five minutes of

0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:59.640
<v Speaker 1>playing the you know, The Last of Us or something crazy.

0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Thank goodness, thank you Sony for finally coming out with

0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:06.520
<v Speaker 1>a dual shock that I can play alright, so, um,

0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:10.040
<v Speaker 1>let's see my My last one in our hardware category

0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:12.480
<v Speaker 1>is that I think we're going to see a lot

0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:15.919
<v Speaker 1>of low energy Bluetooth beacon type technology. Now, this is

0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:19.879
<v Speaker 1>a specific type of Bluetooth that requires very little power

0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:23.040
<v Speaker 1>to operate. Uh And if you were to create a whole,

0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:26.080
<v Speaker 1>uh say, network of these beacons in a small area,

0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:29.960
<v Speaker 1>you could broadcast information across that entire area, but you're

0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:32.320
<v Speaker 1>not consuming a lot of power to do so. Yeah. Yeah,

0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:35.560
<v Speaker 1>you can put these things out of strategic locations around, um,

0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:39.320
<v Speaker 1>a shopping center or a sports arena or so. Let's

0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:43.040
<v Speaker 1>say that you are you are at some event and

0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:46.040
<v Speaker 1>it's an event. It's almost like a second screen experience, right,

0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:49.200
<v Speaker 1>like the idea of being home watching a television show

0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:51.200
<v Speaker 1>and having a laptop open so you can find out

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:53.760
<v Speaker 1>what else that guy has been in because you recognize

0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:55.639
<v Speaker 1>that guy, but you don't know what that guy's name is.

0:23:56.200 --> 0:23:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Do I do that with everything I watch? Me too? Everyone?

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Does you think you're unique? No? We all do that.

0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:07.639
<v Speaker 1>Stop kidding yourself anyway. Um, yeah, they the idea here,

0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:10.879
<v Speaker 1>well one idea, one implementation, it's just one. Is that

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.280
<v Speaker 1>you could put this and say like a sporting arena,

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:16.440
<v Speaker 1>and when there's a sports event, of which I am

0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:20.200
<v Speaker 1>told there are many and some of them are popular, uh,

0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:25.840
<v Speaker 1>and you are are made of some kind of leather.

0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure that you can hit a hail Mary

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:34.000
<v Speaker 1>pass in a basketball park. One of them is an

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:38.320
<v Speaker 1>oblong spheroid. Yes, anyway, there. You know, if you're a

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:41.000
<v Speaker 1>sports fan or you know a sports fan, you probably

0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 1>know someone who has this kind of uh fandom where

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:48.280
<v Speaker 1>they love the statistics of the game. And so this

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:50.760
<v Speaker 1>could be something where you're at a sporting event, you

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 1>opt in, you turn on your phone, you opt in

0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 1>into this network, and it feeds you real time information

0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:59.199
<v Speaker 1>that pertains to the event you are at. So if

0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 1>you're at a football game and stuff is going on

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:04.680
<v Speaker 1>on the field, you'll get updates about what's happening. You

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 1>might even get updates to players statistics, which could be

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:11.680
<v Speaker 1>important if you're a fantasy football player. And it's kind

0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 1>of an interesting way of creating a more rich experience

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:20.040
<v Speaker 1>for real life locations. It kind of taps into the

0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Internet of Things concept a little bit, but only in

0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:26.520
<v Speaker 1>a It's it's really a one way communication from what

0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:29.360
<v Speaker 1>I've seen, like it's broadcast out, not a communication two

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 1>way things. Yeah, I I've heard the example that in

0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:34.240
<v Speaker 1>stores it could, um, it could push coupons to your

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 1>phone for you or something like that. So yeah, if

0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 1>you if you're someone who's like this sounds awful, then

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I would suggest not installing any apps that would interface

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:45.760
<v Speaker 1>with that. Sounds completely awful to me. I I personally

0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 1>don't need my my smartphone to to have its battery

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:52.199
<v Speaker 1>drained by a little bluetooth pings by anything. And I

0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 1>need all the things, and I'm perfectly comfortable getting my

0:25:55.800 --> 0:26:00.480
<v Speaker 1>coupons from email like our ancestors intended. I tried to,

0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:02.159
<v Speaker 1>but my wife hates it when I cut up our

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 1>computer screens. All right, So that wraps up our our

0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:08.200
<v Speaker 1>section on hardware. We've got some more predictions, but before

0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:10.199
<v Speaker 1>we get into those, let's take a quick break to

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:14.199
<v Speaker 1>thank our sponsor. Alright, So now we're moving on to software,

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:17.719
<v Speaker 1>and my first prediction is that we are going to

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 1>see data collection um technology. You know, we've already seen

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:25.359
<v Speaker 1>it in those fitness trackers right where you get real

0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:28.080
<v Speaker 1>time information about what your body is doing while you

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:31.199
<v Speaker 1>are exercising, like heart rate and how many calories it

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:34.119
<v Speaker 1>estimates that you're burning off. That kind of stuff. I

0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:37.280
<v Speaker 1>see that extending to all sorts of different types of

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:40.159
<v Speaker 1>technology and in feeding the information back to us in

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:44.120
<v Speaker 1>easily digestible ways, whether it's in charts and graphs or

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:46.720
<v Speaker 1>or some sort of running tally. And so we're gonna

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:50.359
<v Speaker 1>see more and more of our lives turn quantifiable. By that,

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you'll see it in things like car technology,

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 1>where it will keep a track on your fuel consumption

0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:58.359
<v Speaker 1>on your average drive. Things like that where you know

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 1>you might notice like, huh, it's year because I drove

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:03.440
<v Speaker 1>to work, you know, four times this week, and one

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:06.159
<v Speaker 1>day I did a lot of you know, apparently I

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:07.919
<v Speaker 1>consumed a lot more gas than I would did on

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 1>the other days. What happened? That kind of thing. That's

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 1>the sort of stuff I think we're going to see

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot more of where we're going to be able

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:17.439
<v Speaker 1>to analyze our lives on this sort of mathematical level.

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:20.159
<v Speaker 1>And uh, part of me thinks that's really cool, and

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>part of me things like it sounds exhausting. No, that

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 1>that sounds like exactly the kind of incredible future that

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to. I I am a little bit

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 1>pessimistic that that's going to be out for anything other

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 1>than like extreme early adopters. Yeah, I might not be.

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:37.919
<v Speaker 1>It might not be that we'll see a lot of

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 1>adoption this year, but I think we're going to see

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:43.359
<v Speaker 1>a lot of examples. In fact that when I go

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:45.240
<v Speaker 1>to C E S, I would be shocked if I

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 1>don't see a lot of examples of this cool. UM.

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:52.359
<v Speaker 1>I think uh kind of relatedly to that, UM that

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 1>that that our our transition to the cloud is nearly complete,

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>and that um other service providers than Amazon are going

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 1>to go really big, right, and this is this is

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:05.160
<v Speaker 1>part of that entire um you know, mobile device popularity

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:06.919
<v Speaker 1>thing that I think is is going to be happening.

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:08.639
<v Speaker 1>You know, where we're going to be looking for for

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 1>more software, more services, more software as a service, and um,

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 1>more sinking tech and not caring as as much about

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 1>about big device purchases and uh and and you know,

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 1>therefore all of these kind of infrastructure systems are going

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 1>to be growing up a lot more. Yeah. So here's

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 1>an example, a practical example that pertains to me. I

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 1>use a password manager that I can install on multiple machines,

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>and the passwords are you know, I've got this whole

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 1>cloud based system where if I log into any one

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 1>of those machines and then decide to change my password,

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I do it through the system. When I log onto

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>my next machine, it will update, and then I'll have

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 1>access to all those passwords, even though I changed it

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 1>on a completely different one. That's a simple example of

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 1>something that you're talking about propagating across multiple industries, and

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 1>we've already seeing examples of this too, things like you know,

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Google Drive is a great example of how it's not

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 1>just cloud we're talking about as entire enterprises are moving

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 1>to that. That's when we're talking about truly big data.

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 1>We're talking about massive amounts of information that's being generated

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 1>and it has to live somewhere and be accessible and

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 1>be understandable, right right, Yeah, the the I d C

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>is predicting that the cloud is going to drive a

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 1>hundred billion dollars worth of spending up over including the

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of hardware that cloud service providers are going to

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>need in order to keep up with this demand. Yeah. Now,

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 1>one of my predictions is that because we're seeing big

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 1>data gets so important, that there is an incredible job

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 1>opportunity out there for people all right, So if if

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>you're really good with numbers, and if you're really good

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>at parsing information and understanding what's important when you're looking

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 1>at huge sets of data, and you're also artistic and

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 1>able to put that in a way that's visually accessible,

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.160
<v Speaker 1>this is the year for you, my friend, because as

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 1>data visualization is going to take off, when you're talking

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 1>about data sets that are that large, it's really hard

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 1>for the average person to get a grasp on what

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 1>is going on. But if you're able to make like

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 1>a simple series of charts or other graphics that explain

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 1>the concept in a way that just latches onto a

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>person's brain, then you are going to have no shortage

0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 1>of clients in fourteen. Yeah, yeah, I completely agree. And

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 1>and my my kind of related tag on prediction to that.

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 1>This is again one of the ones that we both

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 1>pretty much agreed on out of the gate, is that

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 1>the big data is going to be named the sexiest

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>tech of the year. Um and I have a snarky

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 1>quote from Geeka System about this. They they they said

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>the Harvard Business Review, a noted authority on things that

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 1>are sexy, has declared data scientists to be the sexiest

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 1>career of the twenty one century. Um, but no, seriously, guys,

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's we we still haven't made really scalable,

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>sellable ways to process all of the data that we

0:30:57.360 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 1>are increasingly creating and collecting. And it's a lot, and

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>it's it's gonna be it's gonna be hot. Yeah, I

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 1>mean you're it's there's no way we could actually exaggerate

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>how big it's gonna be, right, Um, no way at all,

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 1>not at all. I mean we could sit here for

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>a billion years and say nothing but Big Dad is

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 1>the most important thing that ever existed ever and even

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the Okay, maybe then we can take Big Dada all

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>the way with the hyper Bowl. Now I'm gonna hiss exactly,

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to. I'm going to. However, I'm gonna take

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 1>issue with one thing. Uh. I think if you're talking

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 1>about Harvard, the sexiest thing out of Harvard is Harvard Lampoon.

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:41.520
<v Speaker 1>So I'm just saying lampoon friends to the sexy. Alright, Okay, Um,

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 1>I've got one more one more software note and I

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of sort of already made it a little bit.

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>But um, I don't think that Windows eight is going

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:54.400
<v Speaker 1>to make it yet, Sad Trombone. Windows sevens share of

0:31:54.400 --> 0:32:00.120
<v Speaker 1>the market as of right now is about of the

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 1>top os. Um, it's still it's still on the rise.

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 1>So what what's Windows XP? If I might be so bold,

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 1>do you have that? I bet it's still pretty high. Um,

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 1>but but Windows eight has leveled off as a Q

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 1>three and it's still under ten percent. And you know

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 1>they've recently update the Windows eight point one, but it's

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 1>still I mean, yeah, all right, well then let's move

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>on to the next category. This one only has one entry.

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 1>This is one that I came up with them and

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>we just couldn't figure out where else to put it,

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>so we called policy. Yeah. And also, I mean it's

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 1>a big enough single entry that I think that that's

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>a fair point. Yeah. So I said that the United

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>States government is forced to re examine the n S

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>as policies. But even though they are forced to do

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 1>it like that, you know, there are members of Congress

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 1>who are very much adamant about let's let's bring this

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 1>to light and really talk about it. Yeah, because because

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:53.720
<v Speaker 1>some of our policymakers are just as freaked out as

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 1>we are about all of this n S. A prism stuff,

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>even keeping in mind that it looks like the majority

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 1>of America still really don't either care or know about it.

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anyway, as though it's wildly complicated and

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 1>severely misunderstood by the press themselves. Maybe so I think

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 1>that the government is going to have to address this

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 1>inteen in some way. However, I also think it's not

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>effectively going to change how things are actually happening. So

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 1>even if the the outcome of this, you know, policy

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 1>discussion ends up being, uh, you know, we've got to

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 1>stop this, I don't think we're going to stop this. Yeah. Meanwhile,

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 1>and relatedly, I do think that although there I agree

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 1>with you that there's not gonna be any movement within

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 1>the US government on this kind of thing. I think

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 1>that UM personal incorporate encryption industries are probably going to

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>get a boost um all things D reported that Google, Yahoo,

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>and Microsoft are already beefing up their efforts, and right

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I think I think that that's I think it's going

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 1>to turn a large consumer trend towards being more cautious.

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:00.080
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of these larger companies too. You

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 1>are also a big reason why we will see something

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 1>happening in the US government because you've got them demanding

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 1>not just maybe it's not the the US population, but

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 1>some of the biggest companies that also happened to be um,

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, campaign contributors are making a fuss. Yeah. Um.

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:21.919
<v Speaker 1>In in digital finance, I think that we are going

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 1>to see a lot more mobile money management. I think

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 1>that people are really starting to lose their fear of

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 1>taking their money digital. Um. You know, I'm talking about

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 1>like a rise in the use of bitcoins, um, and

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 1>through stuff like coin base, which just had a had

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:39.879
<v Speaker 1>a twenty five million dollar investment through Inder sine Horrowitz

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 1>and um uh you know, like a rizon in square usage,

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the debut of digital all in one cards like one coin.

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that this kind of stuff is is going

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 1>to be really big. Wow. Okay, yeah, I can see that. However, um,

0:34:56.760 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 1>what do you think about bitcoin specifically, Lauren? Um. I

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:03.319
<v Speaker 1>think I think that bubble is gonna burst. Um it's

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 1>done it before, and it certainly has. I mean, okay,

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 1>so so it went from like twelve to thirteen bucks

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:16.239
<v Speaker 1>per coin at the beginning of two more and right

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 1>now it's it's background like a thousand bucks per coin,

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 1>but that kind of pricing just is not sustainable. Um,

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:25.000
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's going to fluctuate wildly. Yeah, it's

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 1>it's again one of those things where it's not just

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the confidence in the currency itself, it's lots of complicated factors.

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<v Speaker 1>And I won't go into my full rent again because

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<v Speaker 1>I just did it about five minutes ago, even though

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<v Speaker 1>for you guys it might have been last week. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>if you really want to hear my rent, listen to

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<v Speaker 1>our two thousand thirteen year in wrap up, and I

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much did it, then yeah, I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's going to plumb it all the way back

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<v Speaker 1>down to twelve or thirteen bucks necessarily unless it's on

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<v Speaker 1>a on a one off. But so I guess now

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<v Speaker 1>we have to move on to corporate news, and this

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<v Speaker 1>this is the Jonathan Show right here, so um, just

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<v Speaker 1>really quickly now, as of the drying this podcast, Microsoft

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<v Speaker 1>does not have a new CEO. Balmer has retired, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's still acting CEO while they try and find a replacement,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have not done that as of the recording

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<v Speaker 1>of this podcast. If that changes before the new year,

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<v Speaker 1>then obviously this is a moot point. But what I

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<v Speaker 1>actually it kind of still holds because I said that

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<v Speaker 1>the new CEO of Microsoft will at best be an

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<v Speaker 1>effective leader, but not an innovator in the sense that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when I look at the candidates that are

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<v Speaker 1>being mentioned, I'm seeing people who have proven their ability

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<v Speaker 1>to lead large, complicated companies. But don't see anyone who's

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<v Speaker 1>going to lead Microsoft in a new direction that makes

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<v Speaker 1>it the name in some industry that it hasn't already

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<v Speaker 1>played a part in or even regained the control of

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<v Speaker 1>an industry where it once reigned supreme. But now is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fighting for market share. Yeah, the the really

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<v Speaker 1>big name right now and the running is Forward CEO

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<v Speaker 1>s Um Forwards CEO Alan Malally Malally who uh you know.

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<v Speaker 1>As of the recording of this podcast, Ford wants to

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<v Speaker 1>nail down Malali. In fact, I think tomorrow on again,

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<v Speaker 1>December twelve is when we're recording this. I think on

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<v Speaker 1>the thirteenth is when Ford has demanded that they talked

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<v Speaker 1>to Malally and have Malali give them a straight up answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you being courted to? Like? Are you just are

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<v Speaker 1>you considering becoming the Microsoft CEO? Oh? At the very least,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, even if it winds up and if he

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<v Speaker 1>if he winds up not being the first choice. I

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<v Speaker 1>do think it would be very savvy of them to

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<v Speaker 1>hire that kind of that kind of charismatic stop gap

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<v Speaker 1>who can sort of work within Microsoft to train a

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<v Speaker 1>successor who's more fulfilled, familiar with the industry and um

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<v Speaker 1>and the inner workings at the company. So I think,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, it may even be whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>Malali or someone else. I believe that even if they

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<v Speaker 1>get a truly effective leader, they won't be they won't

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<v Speaker 1>become a true innovator in their space. They might they

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<v Speaker 1>might be able to stop some hemorrhaging in a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of yearsions, I think they've got a lot of recovery

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<v Speaker 1>to Yeah, they do. And uh and so I think

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<v Speaker 1>now that's the best case scenario. The first case scenarios

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<v Speaker 1>they end up with someone who's who also is not

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<v Speaker 1>an effective leader on top of not being an innovator.

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<v Speaker 1>So I hope, and I'm saying all this, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>that I hope I'm wrong about this. I hope that

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<v Speaker 1>whomever Microsoft ends up getting as the new CEO is

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<v Speaker 1>able to lead Microsoft onto new greater heights. Because we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna benefit from a company that does well. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>benefit from companies that don't do well. Yeah, especially that

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<v Speaker 1>someone as big as Microsoft. That's never a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So so, so don't get me wrong, I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>like down with Microsoft. I want to see them succeed,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Next, I have that Google finally figures out

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<v Speaker 1>what it's doing with Motorola Mobile. Be about time they bondit. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They said that they weren't going to use it as

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<v Speaker 1>a means of creating exclusive hardware. They said they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to do that, they didn't want to give preferential

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<v Speaker 1>treatment to it. But they haven't really done much with

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<v Speaker 1>it at all. So one of the things I think

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<v Speaker 1>is possible is they might spin off Motorola as an

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<v Speaker 1>independent company that still has direct ties to Google that

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<v Speaker 1>will create Android based hardware for Google and become kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a manufacturing arm, but that they are not,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, under the direct Google umbrella. They'll be their

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<v Speaker 1>own little independent entity. I think that's a possibility. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that would make that would make perfect sense.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go. Yeah, so that wraps up all of

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<v Speaker 1>my predictions and now we wait months and see how

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<v Speaker 1>wrong we were, Yeah, Well, you know, we've been batting

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<v Speaker 1>pretty well. I think it's not. You were very hard

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<v Speaker 1>on yourself when we did our wrap up, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think you did much better than you were getting think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was fair, but I still I still

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<v Speaker 1>accumulated many squids, So I feel pretty okay about that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>We are we are squid rich right now. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>have any kind of squid flow in this office is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>My my squid cooin account is just overflowing. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>while we go and do a Scrooge McDuck dive in

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<v Speaker 1>to our giant vet of squid, I want to remind

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