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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Car Stories with Song

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Speaker 1: Kang and Amelia Hartford.

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Speaker 2: What's the question today?

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Speaker 1: Are you a good gift giver?

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Speaker 2: No? I'm horrible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I found that there are these websites like winebasket dot com. Okay,

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Speaker 3: and then it's just a matter of like, okay, it's.

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Speaker 1: Just how much money I want to spend?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is this.

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Speaker 3: Person one hundred dollars gift two hundred, three hundred or whatever?

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Speaker 3: And it's like it makes it super easy, sure, right,

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Speaker 3: and you're like, wow, that looks glorious, right, but to

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Speaker 3: actually go somewhere to like if I had to buy

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Speaker 3: you a gift.

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, am I a fifty dollars friend? One hundred

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Speaker 1: dollar friend?

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Speaker 4: Two hundred dollars? That's the problem, you tell me? So?

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Speaker 4: Or is it?

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Speaker 2: Do I make you something?

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Speaker 1: Do you make things?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I draw, I like paint stuff.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'd more appreciate something like that, you would, right, Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel like those are the most meaningful gifts.

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Speaker 4: The worst gift. I hate this gift.

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Speaker 3: And I hope my like agents and managers and lawyers

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Speaker 3: are listening to this, like this, there's a Hollywood gift.

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Speaker 3: They send you this card and they go on, your behalf,

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Speaker 3: we've donated such and such amount to blah blah blah

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Speaker 3: organization and.

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Speaker 1: Hate that I got the same gift this year.

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Speaker 4: I hate that gift. I'm like, we got that gift?

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Speaker 4: Is this like thank you for what? Right? Like putting

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Speaker 4: it in my name?

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Speaker 3: I'm like, come on, get me some cized chocolate or

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Speaker 3: some hotel toilet.

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Speaker 1: Try don't feed the starving children.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Look right, that's a come on, that's a

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Speaker 3: that's a that's a weird gift.

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Speaker 2: That's a JANKI gift.

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Speaker 1: I think it'd be sweeter if they let us pick

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Speaker 1: the charity. But they have an organization that they work.

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Speaker 2: With, And yeah, I don't. I don't want that gift.

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Speaker 1: Do you want your agents and lawyers to draw you

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Speaker 1: a painting?

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Speaker 4: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: You know, my one of my agents, Frank, who is

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Speaker 3: your agent too, He gives listening to this, he gives

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Speaker 3: the best, best gifts.

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Speaker 2: He will make you like a collage of the year.

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Speaker 1: What the hell? Frank?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, you did this.

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Speaker 1: I haven't received a yearly clause.

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Speaker 3: Well you will, real I mean, because he loves photos

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Speaker 3: and he'll like create this whole poster.

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Speaker 2: And you're like, Frank, you actually went out and made this,

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Speaker 2: And he goes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Frank seems like a good gift giver.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a great gift giver. Are you a good

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Speaker 2: gift giver?

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Speaker 1: If I try, I can be At the very least.

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Speaker 1: I try to write people letters. I like whenever I travel,

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Speaker 1: Like you've noticed, I like to bring back little knickknacks

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Speaker 1: for friends and stuff. I don't necessarily believe in only

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Speaker 1: giving a gift for a birthday once a year. I

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Speaker 1: like to give people little gifts throughout the entire year,

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Speaker 1: just so you know that you're thinking of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you gave me a gift yesterday. I did maple

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Speaker 3: syrup candy lollipop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, shaped like a maple leaf. I brought it back

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Speaker 1: from Canada.

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Speaker 3: I got me in trouble yesterday. Why because I left

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Speaker 3: it in the car and it melted. No, no, no.

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Speaker 3: And then I went straight home and then we had

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Speaker 3: to go to the Pet Star, my wife and I

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Speaker 3: and she goes, what is that marijuana candy? I was like, mariju,

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Speaker 3: that's marijuana. Are you getting stoned at the podcast?

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Speaker 4: And I'm like no.

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Speaker 3: She went to Canada and guys, She's like, well, that

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Speaker 4: That's funny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, thank you for that kid. That's that's

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Speaker 3: a that's a good way to give gifts just throughout

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Speaker 3: the year. Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to be more I

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Speaker 3: guess less. Maybe hoarding is the word, because I have

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Speaker 3: all this stuff, right, there are things that just end

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Speaker 3: up stacking.

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Speaker 1: Like I can't stand that I threw everything out, not

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Speaker 1: like things, not things that people give me. Just I

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Speaker 1: live a very minimalist lifestyle.

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Speaker 3: But okay, let's say somebody gave you five key chains

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Speaker 3: and you know you only need one, or you don't

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Speaker 3: even need.

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Speaker 1: Any merch if a company were going on. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: have so many people in my life. I would be

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Speaker 1: so happy to take them from me. All take what

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Speaker 1: I'll use. I don't. I'm not one who if I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to use it, not do anything with it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to give away everything, yeah this year because

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Speaker 3: I go, Okay, this guy loves hats.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's someone who'll probably appreciate it more than you might.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I have a need for it.

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Speaker 3: Even Yeah, I don't appreciate it, but I think because

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Speaker 3: maybe when I was younger, I had nothing, like I

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Speaker 3: want to like have everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so it's harder to let go.

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Speaker 1: My mom held onto everything, which is why now I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I can't. I don't want anything.

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Speaker 4: Huh.

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Speaker 2: So is your like house sparse?

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Speaker 1: I just don't keep knick knacks and things. I don't

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Speaker 1: even have like my high school yearbooks. I really don't

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Speaker 1: have photos of me as a kid. I have the

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Speaker 1: stuff I use every day.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, huh, that's good. That's a minimalism. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I have.

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Speaker 1: I've started keeping a little box of memories and it's

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Speaker 1: like a little small box that I just put in

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Speaker 1: the top of a closet. So I'm like, well, maybe

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Speaker 1: I should keep some stuff to look back. That's been

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Speaker 1: like the past year or two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But you collect.

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Speaker 1: Cars, Yeah, I do collect cars.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to get rid of those.

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Speaker 1: Can't get rid of those.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to get rid of my cars.

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Speaker 1: I'll take them.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you will.

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Speaker 3: You have enough anyways, speaking of cool cars, our next

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Speaker 3: guest is well, we call him the winningest professional drift

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Speaker 3: driver in history. Yeah, a living legend literally, Chris Forsburg.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, pro driver, he is a very successful businessman, and

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Speaker 1: it was cool to sit down and talk about the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and having balance with that, yeah, that letting that

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Speaker 3: competitive spirit be toxic.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: So you know, I've known Chris for years, but I

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Speaker 3: don't know him, and today it was nice to actually

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Speaker 3: sit down and get to know the man behind this myth.

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Speaker 3: You know, winningest drift driver in history. So, without further ado,

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Speaker 3: Chris Forsburg, there's such a technical approach that you take

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Speaker 3: with driving. You know when I listen to you talk,

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Speaker 3: and it's amazing that you're self taught. I mean, correct

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Speaker 3: me if I'm misquoting this, but like the winningest professional

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Speaker 3: I don't think people are aware of, like, you know,

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Speaker 3: your accomplishments in the sport, right, I mean the winning.

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Speaker 4: This winning is.

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Speaker 5: It's a funny word to say, but yeah, because it's

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Speaker 5: it kind of goes across different accolades because we have

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Speaker 5: I say we me you know, you include the team, right,

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Speaker 5: It's like you know you always say we, but yeah,

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Speaker 5: I have the most podiums and formal drift I'm tied

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Speaker 5: with most championships with James and Osmo, and I have

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Speaker 3: So you got to walk through this the origin and

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Speaker 3: the history for us, because it's how did it start?

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Speaker 3: Like how do you teach yourself to be the winningest

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Speaker 1: But did you see yourself?

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Speaker 4: How many more times can we say?

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Speaker 5: So it's no, It's interesting because I wasn't like fully

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Speaker 5: We went to a couple of drag races and like yeah,

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Speaker 5: But like it kind of start and ended there. And

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Speaker 5: back in like two thousand, like ninety nine time. And

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Speaker 5: you know, the way that we learned was just you know,

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Speaker 5: We're like building our own stuff because I had I

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Speaker 5: came back to the market and three two thousand and three. Yeah,

443
00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,560
Speaker 5: and so I've sold my ARC seven and I used

444
00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,399
Speaker 5: that money down payment and bought a new Z. I

445
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:28,800
Speaker 5: took it to like one or two events on the

446
00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,440
Speaker 5: East Coast, and at the same time it was just

447
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,960
Speaker 5: like basically making my plans, wrapping it up. And there

448
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,000
Speaker 5: was like a Falcon drift show off that was happening

449
00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,560
Speaker 5: in October back at erwin Dale again, and I was

450
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,760
Speaker 5: like going back to that event doing that, and so

451
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,879
Speaker 5: packed up all my stuff, moved out, made it in

452
00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,440
Speaker 5: time for the event, and like had like a nice

453
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,840
Speaker 5: boty kit on nice wheels, like the car looked, you know,

454
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 5: really legit got to that event. I got fifth place

455
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:57,040
Speaker 5: at that event, and so like just instant like recognition,

456
00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,359
Speaker 5: I guess you could say it was obviously a pretty

457
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,680
Speaker 5: small community knew each other and it kind of turned

458
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 5: into like who's this kid, you know with the with

459
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 5: the new car right type thing? Like I say, this

460
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 5: is like my first like subconscious lesson in marketing is,

461
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 5: you know, you invest in yourself. No one's going to

462
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 5: do it for you until you prove that you are

463
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 5: going to put in the work and the effort on

464
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 5: your own. So instantly started to get the attention of

465
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,680
Speaker 5: companies because I had the new platform, so they wanted

466
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 5: to provide you know, coilover kids, exhaust intakes, you know,

467
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 5: because they're promoting all their new parts for the new car.

468
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 5: And so I was able to get support almost immediately.

469
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 5: And so that's when I got linked up with motor

470
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,600
Speaker 5: X at the time, they were my first partner, and

471
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,359
Speaker 5: that's how I was able to go to forma drift

472
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,199
Speaker 5: in the first year. And so I went out and

473
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 5: we entered forma drift. So I've been to every form

474
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 5: of drift since the very first one, which was Road

475
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,440
Speaker 5: Atlanta and we got second place, went all the way

476
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 5: to the finals.

477
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:54,400
Speaker 4: First round.

478
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 5: First, your first, the first fdy around, Yeah, your first?

479
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 5: What you well is that the is that the year

480
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 5: that Sam Samuel hubin At won Yeah. So I member

481
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 5: him in the finals and he won the first round,

482
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 5: and then I met him in the semis the second round,

483
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 5: so I got third place. Second round, he got first again,

484
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 5: and then he won the third race, and then I

485
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 5: eventually beat him. I was the first driver to beat

486
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 5: him at irwin Dale the final round that year.

487
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 4: Wow. And I ended up third overall.

488
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 2: Wow.

489
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 3: So so I mean that year they saw the goats

490
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 3: in that your class very.

491
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 1: Defining of the industry today because everyone is really still

492
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 1: around and competing still mostly.

493
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 4: A lot of them.

494
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I retired.

495
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 4: I see him all the time.

496
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,360
Speaker 1: Are you a person who sets cool? Are you one

497
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 1: who just only does what they enjoyed doing that day?

498
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: Like how do you navigate that?

499
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 4: I guess it's I never really like set a goal.

500
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 5: I don't have like this is my five year plan,

501
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 5: like I'm gonna be doing this, Like how I explained,

502
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 5: like how I kind of like fell into like pro drifting.

503
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 5: And that's like when I was saying, when I was

504
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 5: out here for the first time in the summer of three,

505
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 5: I was like I got to move to California, just

506
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 5: like everything was just telling me, like I gotta get there,

507
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 5: like I'm gonna miss the wave, and I'm glad that

508
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 5: I did, because it was there was so much happening

509
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 5: so quickly. Import drag racing was basically falling off, and

510
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 5: you know, the Fast and Furious movies of course were

511
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 5: like you know, coming out, and it was just bringing

512
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 5: so much attention to the automotive scene. I remember, like

513
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 5: when we were running our little shop out of my parents' barn,

514
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 5: Like we went to the premiere of the first Fast

515
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 5: and Furious movie and we had a whole bunch of

516
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 5: flyers made for our little car shop, sticking them on

517
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 5: the windshields of you know, any modified car, and we

518
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 5: drew up some business, right, and that was helping us

519
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 5: to like build our cars. We're working on other people's cars,

520
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 5: and make a money so that we could go buy

521
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 5: tires and go drifting. Yeah, Like there was never really

522
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 5: like a goal or a plan. It was just being

523
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 5: in the right place at the right time. And the

524
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 5: only thing that I really did like step forth, which

525
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 5: has shown you know, incredible response or feedback i should say,

526
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 5: is the off road side. That was something that I

527
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 5: was like, I want to get back into it. I

528
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 5: had like dabbled in a little bit here and there,

529
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 5: like I had a like a razor that would take

530
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 5: you out to the desert and just enjoy just driving around.

531
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 5: I was like, I really want to do this like

532
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 5: on a different level, and so we pitched a Nissan

533
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 5: when the Frontier came out, where like we really want

534
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 5: to do an offer a program with Frontiers.

535
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: The Frontiers my daily driver.

536
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I love it.

537
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 5: Yeah.

538
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 4: Same.

539
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 5: So it's like this whole package that you can now purchase.

540
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 5: It's a you know, race winning, you know, dealership to dirt,

541
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 5: you know, package that we helped propel. And so it's

542
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 5: still like a little surreal. It hasn't really settled in.

543
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 5: That's crazy, I know.

544
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,239
Speaker 4: So it's like a dream, I know.

545
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 5: And that's like the thing that like it doesn't really

546
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 5: feel real still because it's uh, you know that that

547
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 5: would be like I say, like a goal that I've

548
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 5: always had. And the way that we made it happen

549
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 5: was like like I said, it was like once again,

550
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 5: like something was like telling me like this is the

551
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 5: way to make it happen like I always saw or

552
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 5: like I always wanted to be like, oh, like I

553
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 5: got a you know, like an fr edition like Z

554
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 5: or something like that, right, But there was just something

555
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 5: that was always telling me like, no, it's like it's

556
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 5: it's the trucks.

557
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 4: It's in the.

558
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 5: Dirt, you know, like like focus on the off road.

559
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 5: And so we did that, and the Frontiers like such

560
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 5: a high grossing vehicle that it just made sense to

561
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 5: launch this Forestburg Edition package with the Frontier and then

562
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 5: building the truck going to the race winning.

563
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 4: It just told the story perfectly.

564
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

565
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you would assume you would think that it

566
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 3: would be in like a Z Forstburg Z edition that

567
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 3: you could drift, but yeah, for every car person, it's

568
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 3: like you have your own Saline or Shelby.

569
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, Frontier, it's pretty awesome.

570
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 5: It's it's wild. Yeah, So it's yeah, it's it'll be

571
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 5: launching in the fall. So, like I said, if you

572
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 5: have a Frontier already, or you can get a brand

573
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 5: new like on the truck, which is great because that's warrantyed.

574
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 5: You know, so so many people are afraid to touch

575
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 5: brand new cars because you lose your warranty. So that

576
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 5: was like the biggest thing is it's all dealership installed,

577
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 5: still covered and there how much that costs. It's nine

578
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 5: ninety nine, nine nights, so it's like ten thousand dollars.

579
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 4: It's so bad.

580
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: And any dealership wow.

581
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 4: Any on.

582
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

583
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 5: So you get there, Yeah, so you get yeah, full exhaust, yeah,

584
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 5: the full suspension, the lift kit, beadlock wheels, Yokohama tires wow.

585
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you can go Baja straight to Mexico.

586
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 4: It yeah nice. So yeah, it's it's really yeah, thank you.

587
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 5: So that was that I would say, is like like

588
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 5: just subconscious bucket list item that I didn't even know

589
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 5: I was like aiming for when we're like pitching this

590
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 5: off road program.

591
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: So did your parents think you're out of your mind

592
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 3: that you were packing up and going to know? They

593
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 3: were pornia, They're pretty supportive.

594
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, they didn't really know what to think, but it

595
00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 5: was like okay, like you know, if you're going to

596
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 5: try it, you know, give it a hundred percent effort.

597
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 5: Like because I went to like community college for like

598
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 5: six months, wasn't really for me. I was like kind

599
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 5: of skipping class to like go work on my car,

600
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 5: and I'm just like I'm just not going to end

601
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 5: up in an office, you know.

602
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 3: I Mean, that's that says a lot I mean, that's

603
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 3: a great lesson for people to hear. Is like, you know,

604
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: we were actually talking to Jeff before you came about this.

605
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 3: It's like it's a great quote, like, you know, passion

606
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 3: is what is the recipe for people's success? Right when

607
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 3: he because they were like, well, you know what, what

608
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 3: what differentiates people that you meet that you know you

609
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 3: know are going to be successful?

610
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 2: And it's like simple. It's like they just are super

611
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 2: passionate about what they're doing.

612
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: Right, And I've i personally, whenever people say lucky, I

613
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: can stand the term lucky because I feel like luck

614
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: is when hard work meets opportunity. But that was the

615
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: first time I heard passion actually talked about when it

616
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: comes to success. Yeah, to to your point, So I

617
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: think we both see the passion when you talk about

618
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: what you're doing. And maybe you don't need that five

619
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: year plan. You just live every day going after what

620
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: you know you love doing, and with that will come

621
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: success of some sort.

622
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: Because it still sounds like where do you see yourself

623
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 3: in ten years? It's like, well, what doesn't matter. You're

624
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: just passionate about what you're doing, so things are going

625
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 3: to come.

626
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 5: Like you know, the off roading and right, yeah, like

627
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 5: I I say, like, oh, I don't have like at

628
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 5: I do have like another like idea that's like my

629
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 5: next goal, like you could say about it. I mean, yeah, sure,

630
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 5: it's not like my my next idea or like goal.

631
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 5: I guess you could say, is too for us to

632
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 5: have like our own compound with our own track on it? Right,

633
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 5: obviously everyone's kind of dream you could say, like who

634
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 5: wouldn't want to have like their own house with a

635
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 5: big shop and a track on it.

636
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: I if this sounds cheesy, but I have that on

637
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: my vision board. There you go.

638
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

639
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: It's like, of course it's like playgrounds.

640
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, a place that we can actually run

641
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 5: our cars without you know how, and to go to

642
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 5: a racetrack or load them up and everything else. It's

643
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 5: like that's like kind of my long term like legacy plan,

644
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 5: so to have a place for people to come to

645
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 5: since I mean not that like Willow Springs is going anywhere,

646
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 5: but you know, racetracks are usually falling to the wayside,

647
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 5: So it's like giving people a place to go because

648
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 5: that's like what we needed when when I was a kid,

649
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 5: and that's why we went to English Town because we

650
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 5: can't keep doing this on.

651
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 4: The street, you know.

652
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 3: And the track designed for like, you know, purpose, it's

653
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 3: purpose built for like drifting, right, because I mean, did

654
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 3: you ever imagine drifting would grow to this point?

655
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 2: Because it's crazy, it's huge.

656
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 4: Yeah it is.

657
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's world worldwide and yeah, and I would say

658
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 5: a lot of that is once again Fast and Furious movies.

659
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 5: You know, Tokyo Drift made drift you know, household term

660
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 5: like people then understood it when I would tell people like, oh,

661
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 5: like a drift cars, like what does that mean? You know,

662
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 5: it was cool because you probably don't know this, but

663
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 5: I was. I was a part of that movie, not

664
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 5: in it by any means, but I did all the

665
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 5: sound recording for your car. Yeah what so it was

666
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 5: was on Tokyo Drift right, Yeah, yeah, Peter, it was

667
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 5: Tony Angelo's old former drift Falcon FD.

668
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: He was talking about that car when we did the podcast.

669
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: He has it in his bank, right, Yeah, he did

670
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: it below when he was recording it. Yeah, whoa, So

671
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: you the driver?

672
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 4: Ye whole the wait? No, I think it was No,

673
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 4: I think Tony's I think the FD was fine. I

674
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 4: thought it was the Mustang that broke.

675
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: I was one of the cars.

676
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

677
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 5: I think it was Vaughn's Mustang that broke because so

678
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 5: like yeah, Falcon brought the rig out and they had

679
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 5: the f D in there, uh and the Mustang and

680
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 5: so yeah, I was like, you know, went out to

681
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 5: this runway. You know, microphones all over the car and

682
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 5: it's like, you know, you have like a like a

683
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 5: line item list of like okay, like you know, I

684
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 5: only car like rev the car rev to the red line.

685
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 4: You know, like that all the way down.

686
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 5: It's like drive up stop, drive up, rev stop, you know,

687
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 5: and like just get them all the different tones. That's

688
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 5: so yeah, like every time you hear that the FD

689
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 5: like rolling around. Yeah, that's two.

690
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Man if Fest has just a world, it

691
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: really is.

692
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: The car community is like a family. Everyone seems to

693
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: know everyone, and there's that always a full circle moment.

694
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 4: I feel like, yeah, and that's what's cool about it.

695
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: You know.

696
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 5: It's like like almost every time like a situation rise,

697
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 5: like it's like, oh, like I know a guy and

698
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 5: like you know, make a phone call. Like you're saying,

699
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 5: like it's such a small community. It's like you know,

700
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 5: they'd say, it's like, what the six degrees of separation?

701
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 5: Like in the car community, It's like.

702
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure is Yeah.

703
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: So I'm sure there's people listening to this podcast because

704
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: obviously they're fans of you, and maybe they want to

705
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: learn how to get into drifting themselves. What is I know?

706
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: So much has changed within the last twenty years for

707
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: today those wanting to get into drifting. What would you

708
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: recommend for someone?

709
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, it's funny because you know, people have different

710
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 5: viewpoints on whether it was easier to get into drifting

711
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 5: in the early days or now, And I guess it's

712
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 5: all in the definition of what what do you think

713
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 5: is drifting? Are you trying to be like a pro

714
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 5: one form of drift driver or you're just trying to

715
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 5: like go drift your car. As far as like learning

716
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 5: how to drift, it's one hundred times easier now than

717
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 5: it was in the beginning because there's so many different

718
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 5: events and tracks and opportunities to do so we had

719
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 5: to make our own.

720
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 4: There was no place for us to go then.

721
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 5: Also, the accessibility of you know, the knowledge of how

722
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 5: to create a drift car right or a modify car

723
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 5: to drift is there, and like we're saying, the car

724
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 5: community is so open and sharing you know, setups or

725
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 5: tips or you know, whether it's driving tips or you know,

726
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 5: like how to build the car, Like it's all just

727
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 5: at your fingertips. So that portion of it is so

728
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 5: much easier. And for anyone that wants to get in drifting,

729
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 5: I always tell them it's like, yeah, obviously you get

730
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 5: a real world drive car. And then the first three

731
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 5: to tell everyone to do is diff seat, coil overs,

732
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 5: usually in that order too. So make sure it's got

733
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 5: to diff whether it's factory or you know, weld it

734
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 5: up if you're on a budget, or you know, get

735
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 5: a mechanical one.

736
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 4: If you can.

737
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 5: You have to have that because you have to have

738
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 5: the real rols locked up, right, That's like a given.

739
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 5: And then so step two. The seat I think is

740
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 5: one of the most important things because as you're learning,

741
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 5: you're really getting thrown around the car, right, and so

742
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 5: if you just have like a regular old seat, Like yes,

743
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 5: newer cars now have some nice bolstering, but you know,

744
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 5: like your old BMW's two forty's you know MOZ does

745
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 5: all that, Like they're pretty flat and half a couch. Yeah,

746
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 5: And so as you're learning, you know, like you're gonna

747
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 5: get tossed around, and so a seat actually connects you

748
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 5: to the car and you can feel the car right

749
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 5: and like you know a car will drift with the

750
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 5: rear wheels locked up in factory form. You know you

751
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 5: can do that, so you don't need to sit here,

752
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 5: and like I gotta do an engine swap, I gotta

753
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 5: get an intake, I gotta you know, all these different things.

754
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,239
Speaker 5: It's like the seat will connect you to the car

755
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 5: and let you feel what the car is capable of.

756
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 5: And it also is like a bit of a safety

757
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 5: thing too, so that you are more in control of

758
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 5: the car. And then coil overs because that's you know,

759
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 5: your next best bang for the buck, because you know,

760
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 5: lowers the car, stiffens it up and helps it to slide.

761
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 5: From there, you can start working on you know, horsepower

762
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 5: and other things like angle kits. But I usually try

763
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 5: to tell people to not start with the angle kit

764
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 5: because it's too forgiving, right, it allows the car to

765
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 5: rotate too much, and it gives too much of a cushion.

766
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 5: Like you should learn with less angle first and then

767
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 5: add it because that will help you to be a

768
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 5: better driver in the long term. But yeah, that's that's

769
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 5: just to get a car that's basically ready to drift

770
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 5: and then from there, you know, obviously go out to

771
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 5: a track. And so many tracks now have like clinics

772
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 5: drift days, like little lessons, they have teachers instructors, so like,

773
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 5: if you want to get in drifting, stick to the basics.

774
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 5: Don't overbuild your car. The problem is most people they

775
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,719
Speaker 5: just get stuck in the build. They never even make

776
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 5: it to the track, right, So they have like this

777
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 5: project and they're not actually driving the car, and there's

778
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 5: always going to be someone around that's more advanced or

779
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 5: knowledgeable than you.

780
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

781
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 5: Right, So you have to have a little bit of

782
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 5: a courage to just put yourself out there, yeah, and

783
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 5: ask yeah, and and be humble and know that you're

784
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 5: not the best guy there, and you know, don't be

785
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 5: afraid to ask for help.

786
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 3: I mean, if if you were able to talk to

787
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 3: your high school self that was on a budget and

788
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: have a choice of cars that are available today, what

789
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 3: would you start with.

790
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, like I I know it sounds like

791
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 5: I'm just like preaching the Nissan, but like the z is,

792
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 5: like you see at the track events. There's so many

793
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 5: of z's out there now. The three fifty right now

794
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 5: is like one of the best startup cars. It's got

795
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 5: to be six. You don't got to do an engine

796
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 5: swop for worry about horsepower. It's got a strong transmission,

797
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 5: comes with a diff got decent seats, Like you can

798
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 5: hop in a stock Z and just start whipping around

799
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 5: track no problem.

800
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: What was the story with the S thirty the to

801
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 2: eighty build? Like why did you do that?

802
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 4: Which is an awesome car? Like yeah, I love it.

803
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 5: Yah, they're cool. Well I always thought they looked kind

804
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 5: of cool, you know. I was working with Nissan like

805
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 5: off and on. This was like twenty twelve or so,

806
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 5: and then that Dotson like fell in my lap. It

807
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 5: was basically like a friend of the guys at m

808
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 5: A Motorsports were like, hey, this car that we tuned once,

809
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 5: this guy wants to sell it sold Donson, Like would

810
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 5: you want it?

811
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, So I.

812
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 5: Got that Dotson had like no interior, but it had

813
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 5: a running RB in it and like some old whatever

814
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 5: wheels on it.

815
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 4: Got it for four grand? What what? Yeah with the RB? Yeah?

816
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 5: Oh I know you can even buy an RB for

817
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 5: four grand or like even like a rolling Donson but yeah,

818
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 5: you know I was twelve years ago.

819
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah you know so, but yeah free yeah, because it.

820
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 5: Was like the guy's moving needs to get rid of it,

821
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 5: like I'll take four grand for it. Was like I'm

822
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 5: on my way, fell in love with it, started working

823
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 5: on it like crazy, and beefed up the engine like

824
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 5: read it the whole interior like yeah, you know you've

825
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 5: seen it's kind of like, you know, a whole new

826
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 5: kid on it.

827
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: But carbon signal.

828
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 3: These two guys, the two friends when's the doctor and

829
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 3: on it's like a at guy and they're just enthusiasts

830
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: of old dots Ins right, Like they're obsessed over vintage

831
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 3: and modern like Nissans and Dotsons. So we were building

832
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 3: the fuguzzi, the two forty Z, the seventy two that

833
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 3: I have. They reached out to me because they were like, hey,

834
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 3: we were doing like interior parts for like the two

835
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: forty and they're like I'm like who are you guys?

836
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 2: Like oh, we live in Dubai And I'm like what,

837
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 2: like do what or like why like whatever?

838
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 3: Man?

839
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: And they're like can we send it to you? And

840
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 2: I'm like you guys, I'm sure you will.

841
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 3: And then they actually sent everything and it was this

842
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 3: bespoke custom interior that you know, the figur right, and

843
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 3: then the year after they connected with Chris and then

844
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 3: your body kit and the interior is all carbon signal. Anyway,

845
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 3: they're the coolest dudes. They become like brothers to me.

846
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 3: You know, they're just like truly passionate, crazy car dudes

847
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 3: that I mean, this is all they do. They just

848
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 3: keep making these cars and then they support people in

849
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 3: the community, right yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they make beautiful stuff.

850
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 3: So what are you going to do with this new

851
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: two eighty because I have three kids here? Oh yeah,

852
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: you should build one.

853
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 4: I might all these kids. Yeah right, they're halfway there.

854
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm genuinely down. I've been wanting to do a

855
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: dots and build even so a five to ten, like

856
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: I've just been wanting to do that for so long.

857
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: Now we can't put a rotary motor in that.

858
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 4: No, nice, I wanted to do.

859
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: With a rotary because I've never worked on a rotary

860
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: before and I love to learn new things.

861
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 4: And it was like crickets.

862
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 3: She's like, oh, I want to do that, and Mike spec. No,

863
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 3: there was a big old I don't like a two eighty.

864
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: I would never. I would never. I'd want to put

865
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: an RB in it or something in the Nissan family,

866
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: something capable of lots of power.

867
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

868
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to do a Z build,

869
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: there's so much support. Yeah, you should do that.

870
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: Well, we'll talk more about it. I'm actually looking at

871
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: my next projects and be besides the thirty four, I

872
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: wanted to do another Nissan building. Like how I got

873
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: into cars and you bought my Z Nissan Z. I

874
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: don't know if you remember I spec that car out

875
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: the Yeah. Yeah, he bought the Z that I'd specked

876
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: out because at the time I couldn't take delivery of it,

877
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: and I've been regretting not buying that car. Yeah, I'm

878
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: glad you.

879
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 4: Enjoyed respects so much loving it.

880
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, because the Z that Nissan put on order for me,

881
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 5: it arrived and it had red interior, and I didn't

882
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 5: hate it, but I was like, you know, we're getting

883
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 5: this new car and like, you know, like blue is

884
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 5: kind of like our thing, it's like part of like

885
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 5: our colorway. And I was like, yeah, like and you'll

886
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 5: just pass on it. You know, I'll go back on

887
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 5: the list for one with the blue interior, so the

888
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 5: performance model and everything else. And so when it finally

889
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 5: came back through, it was like like maybe six months later.

890
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 5: It was apparently the one that she had specked out

891
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 5: but then didn't take delivery, so all of a sudden

892
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 5: it became available.

893
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was so funny because we were at the

894
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: newsman Ze launch. I was like looking at this Z

895
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: and I was like, wait a minute, this like's all

896
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: too familiar. And then we're talking we put it all

897
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: together and then that's what happened, because.

898
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 5: It was funny because yeah, just like got the call like,

899
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 5: oh we found one, and I was like, I mean,

900
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 5: you found one, but it makes sense.

901
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, h Starry to ask this question if it's sensitive.

902
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: Are your parents still around? Yeah they saw supportive.

903
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 4: Yeah no they are.

904
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 5: So my mom's still in Pennsylvania, my dad is in Indiana.

905
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 5: Now they're separated, but yeah they're they're around, and yeah, no,

906
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 5: they're they're support They used to come to the races

907
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 5: a lot in like the early years.

908
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 4: But you know it's like it's expensive to fly to

909
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 4: the racetrack all the time. My brother I gave him

910
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 4: the ARC seven.

911
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 5: So yeah's I after I got the dots and then

912
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 5: built that up and the Arc seven became like a

913
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 5: back burner project. And my brother's like, I really want

914
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 5: to get a car, and like I don't know what

915
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 5: to get and this and the other. And I was like,

916
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 5: you can have the RC seven in like this pile

917
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 5: of parts I have for it, but you know, you

918
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 5: can't ever sell it, you know type thing.

919
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 4: And so he's like, yeah, deal, so good deal. Yeah,

920
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 4: so great.

921
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 5: Gave him the car, give him all the parts, and

922
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 5: then you know, helped him get a few more things

923
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 5: for it, like when we it was closer to getting

924
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 5: ready to run and yeah, so he drives that car.

925
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: Now.

926
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 5: It's just talking to him on the way up here,

927
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 5: telling him when I was going to do this afternoon,

928
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 5: you know, and he's like, oh that's awesome, you know.

929
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: And so you're really close to your brother, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

930
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 3: he's great. So younger brother two years older, younger sister,

931
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 3: right yeah, younger sister, and.

932
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 4: So yeah, we we talked like it's funny. We uh,

933
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 4: I call it going to church.

934
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 5: We talk every Sunday and just like yeah, so it's well,

935
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 5: it's like we kind of like it's one of those

936
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 5: things where you lose track of time, right if you

937
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 5: don't like keep in touch with people. Yeah, And so

938
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 5: there's a while there where we just wouldn't talk for

939
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 5: like weeks or months. You know, you don't even realize

940
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 5: how much time goes by. And then it was it

941
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 5: was during COVID, like you know, you start kind of

942
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 5: calling people little more often, like in that time when

943
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 5: you're just like, you know, stuck in the house. And

944
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 5: so it was like at that time, so I was like, yeah,

945
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 5: twenty twenty, I was like, yeah, we're gonna talk every Sunday.

946
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: Are you religious? Do you go to church or you

947
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: just call church?

948
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's like it's like all right, like time

949
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 5: to go to church. Like you know, you would just

950
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 5: like laugh about She's like you go to church yet,

951
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 5: Like no, I gotta call him.

952
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 3: That's really good. My sister's five years younger than me.

953
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 3: And there was years ago we got in the argument

954
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 3: over something super stupid.

955
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 1: It always is.

956
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so dumb, right, Like it was something

957
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 3: like I think it was like about an Instagram post,

958
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 3: but I can't remember.

959
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 4: For me, it was something so dumb.

960
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: And then I didn't speak to her for two years,

961
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: Oh I believe it?

962
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: Yeah right, and I will cup One morning and I

963
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: was going, am I going to be that guy that

964
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 3: dies without like communicating with, you know, your only sister?

965
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 3: So I called her and I was like, look, I

966
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 3: don't know what we argued about, and I actually don't care,

967
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 3: but I'll apologize whatever it is, I'm sorry, And then.

968
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: She just starts to cry, right, and I was like, yeah,

969
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: let's not do that. Let's not let's not like argue.

970
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 3: And then one day we get old and we die,

971
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: and then our story is that, you know, like we

972
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: didn't speak to each other over.

973
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 5: Something stupid, right at least something. Yeah, And it's like

974
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 5: somebody needs to do it, you know what I mean?

975
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 4: Yeah?

976
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 5: No, And that's that's you know, big on you for

977
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 5: taking that initiative, because it's so easy to just like, oh, well,

978
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 5: well they're not calling, you know, and like that's usually

979
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 5: what happens, and that's like how just people go their

980
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 5: separate ways, right, But it's you know, one thing I've

981
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 5: learned in like recent years, like you can't change people.

982
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 5: They're going to act the way they're gonna act. Either

983
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 5: accept them for who they are or move on. Did

984
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,959
Speaker 5: something have to switch in your head? Because that's something

985
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 5: that a milion like we talked about this like this year.

986
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm making a conscious effort to just that'd

987
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 5: be so hard on people, right because I'm like they

988
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 5: fucked me over or like, you know, they did something

989
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 5: that I don't agree with, Like I'm cutting them off right,

990
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 5: and I'm like and this year, like I don't want

991
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 5: to do that. I don't want to be that guy anymore.

992
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: It's too much.

993
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 4: It's like carrying a bag of rocks.

994
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I know, it's just yeah, it is like, yeah,

995
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 5: it's just a bunch of baggage that you don't really

996
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 5: want to deal with. And well, I guess for me

997
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 5: it was I was previously married for like eleven years

998
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 5: and my new partner lives my fiance now. I mean

999
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 5: she's fantastic and really like understands like how to communicate

1000
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 5: with people and how to like understand either what people

1001
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 5: are saying or like what they're trying to get across

1002
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 5: here like reading like you know, body language, things like that,

1003
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 5: and so really like is helping me to like you know,

1004
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 5: learn like those fundamentals of like like this is like

1005
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 5: this house person is going to be and either you know,

1006
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 5: you have to accept those behaviors and you know, and

1007
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 5: if you want a relationship with them, like you'll have to,

1008
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 5: like you said, like work at it. And you can't

1009
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 5: hold that against her if you're the one that wants

1010
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 5: to have the relationship. Things like that that like, you know,

1011
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 5: she makes me think a lot about some of that,

1012
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 5: which is good. I appreciate that because I would be

1013
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 5: the stubborn type to just like whatever, just you know,

1014
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 5: walk away.

1015
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need that sound partner in crime to slap

1016
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: you around a little bit.

1017
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: We'll say, to keep you grounded.

1018
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: Are you hyper competitive Chris?

1019
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1020
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, because that's that's what got you where

1021
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: you are today, that being the winningest.

1022
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 4: A T shirt?

1023
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 3: Right, But I mean, I'm sure there's pros and cons

1024
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 3: to it, Like over years, have you found a balance

1025
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 3: where it doesn't seep into like life in the negative way?

1026
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess so i'd like to think.

1027
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 5: So I'm trying to not be so hyper competitive because

1028
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 5: it does you know, consumer time, Like you know, the

1029
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 5: more the more time and effort you put into something,

1030
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 5: the more successful you're going to be at it. Right

1031
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 5: of course, and so but yeah, you have to have

1032
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 5: a balance, right. I've been doing this for over twenty

1033
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 5: years now, and so I guess. But what gets it

1034
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 5: to me is like once we kind of like get

1035
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 5: like going in in an event or at the track, like, yeah,

1036
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 5: I get like way too competitive, trying to be like

1037
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 5: you know, like the fastest or whatever, and like like

1038
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 5: what can I do.

1039
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 4: To make the car better?

1040
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 5: Like we just got invited to that the fat International

1041
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 5: Ice Race. They usually have it over in Switzerland, pretty

1042
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 5: awesome event, and then they had it in Aspen this

1043
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 5: year for the first time, and it was also open

1044
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 5: to multiple manufacturers for the first time. And so I

1045
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 5: was driving the Safari package, the new nie on Zi

1046
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 5: that they had. So they brought that car out and

1047
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 5: you know, it's like, yeah, this'll be a fun weekend.

1048
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 5: You know, like go out and like you know, rip

1049
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 5: the car around, you know, like get some mangle, get

1050
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 5: some cool photos and content will be great. And it's

1051
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 5: like as soon as the times dropped, I was like,

1052
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 5: oh wait, we're like we're like sitting like you know,

1053
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 5: hop five right now, it's all that sounds like start

1054
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 5: messing with the car, trying to like figure out how

1055
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 5: I can get a couple more tents out of it,

1056
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 5: you know, like once again, Like you know, mindset going

1057
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 5: in is like we're just here to have a good time.

1058
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 4: You know, we got invited, this is great, and so

1059
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 4: we were where fourth just missed it, but you was

1060
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 4: away with like anger anger.

1061
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say anger, but yeah, it was definitely just

1062
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 5: you know, bad mood at least for like three minutes.

1063
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 4: You know.

1064
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: I don't know why they're going to say three months.

1065
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 5: Months Normally, like if it's like a FD event or

1066
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 5: something like that, like like it'll linger for days, you know,

1067
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 5: maybe even weeks, but it's uh but yeah, like I

1068
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 5: was like, I was like let it go, you know.

1069
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 5: But like that's like that instant like mindset of like

1070
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 5: like just missed it, you know. Yeah, that's that hyper competitiveness.

1071
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 4: I guess you could.

1072
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 3: I had to like shut it down because it's okay

1073
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: to be competitive to a degree. But what I'm struggling

1074
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 3: with and like I'm working on, is that it causes

1075
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 3: me to be jealousy and I don't like that. I

1076
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 3: don't like that version of myself where you know, like

1077
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 3: what Jeff, you know, was sharing with us today to

1078
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 3: to be in awe of other people's accomplishments. Right, I'm like, oh,

1079
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna really work on.

1080
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: That versus like why aren't I doing that? I'm not

1081
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 1: doing enough?

1082
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: Yes, I do it to myself all the time, and

1083
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: that's that's something that like eats me up. It consumes me.

1084
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 3: And I'm like, you know, being competitive, it's like it

1085
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 3: makes you like wake up and be disciplined and go, Okay,

1086
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna push myself to this. But then it gets

1087
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 3: to a point where, like when you're sitting alone and

1088
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 3: the voices start talking to you, you just like I

1089
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: get consumed, Like I get hot.

1090
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, wait, why not me?

1091
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 2: And like who is this person? It's like it's not

1092
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: fair and all this nonsense, you know what I mean.

1093
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've definitely had those feelings.

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Speaker 1: You know.

1095
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Speaker 5: It's you can't be successful and have that kind of mindset.

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00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 5: Like However, the saying goes like, you know, all ships rises,

1097
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 5: the sea rises, right, so it's like, yeah, you have

1098
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 5: to like build other people up.

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00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 4: You can't be trying to knock them down. You knock

1100
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Speaker 4: yourself down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And it's not a zero some game.

1102
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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

1103
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Speaker 5: You know, like certain people have certain goals, like you know,

1104
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 5: like you're successful in a certain way, and you're successful

1105
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 5: in a certain way, and everybody has a different goal

1106
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 5: of what or a vision of what success is, right,

1107
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 5: and so you can't be jealous of one person's success

1108
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 5: because like you have your own path. And so I'm

1109
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 5: like preaching to myself right now because it's like the

1110
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 5: same thing, like I've felt that way before, like seeing

1111
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 5: other people like.

1112
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 4: Accomplish something like why don't I get that? Like why

1113
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 4: did I do that?

1114
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 5: Because I'm not putting effortwards that. Yeah, you know, so

1115
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 5: you just gotta be proud of people for you know,

1116
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 5: achieving their goals.

1117
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, said Chris.

1118
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 3: It's nice to get in the mind of a champion,

1119
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 3: like have access to like you know, how you think,

1120
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 3: what your ethos is, and most of it is it's

1121
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 3: almost common sense, but it is.

1122
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 2: It's mentality.

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00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, like you know, treat other people the way you

1126
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 5: want to be treated. Yeah, it's as simple as that.

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00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,479
Speaker 1: It goes around around.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, You're just it's a great example of like a

1129
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 3: template to follow is that, you know, there's so many

1130
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 3: people that give like excuses of like you know, well,

1131
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 3: hey dude, what's your dream. It's like, oh, I want

1132
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 3: to be a drifter, but I can't like when not

1133
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 3: well because no one, like no one taught me, like

1134
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 3: you know, my dad doesn't even drive, or like I

1135
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 3: don't have that kind of money. It was like why

1136
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 3: am I going to do it? Like I don't live

1137
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 3: in la, I don't live by racetrack. It's like, let's

1138
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 3: go and study Chris Forsberg. Right, it's like self taught,

1139
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 3: like you know, and it starts with this like love affair,

1140
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 3: this passion to like you know, like work on cars.

1141
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 3: And it's been really nice to sit down with you

1142
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 3: and really get to know you. I've been looking forward

1143
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 3: to this opportunity for years because thanks, I would see

1144
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 3: you like I see you at like Seema, I see

1145
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 3: you at some events and then and it's this bigger

1146
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 3: than life kind of character because it's like champion, No,

1147
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 3: I mean to you, you see yourself, right, and but

1148
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 3: then to others it's like, you know, you see the accolades,

1149
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 3: you see the winning this the title, right, So it's

1150
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 3: really nice to get to know the person behind you know,

1151
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 3: the man, right.

1152
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 5: So yeah, no thanks and yeah It's one of those

1153
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 5: things like how we talked about earlier, like you're just

1154
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 5: kind of going like one step at a time, and

1155
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 5: you know, you don't even realize, like you know, things

1156
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 5: that you accomplish like over twenty years until you start

1157
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 5: like stop and look back because it's like, oh, this

1158
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 5: is the next event, This is the next event, next.

1159
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 4: Thing to do.

1160
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: Easy idiot caught up in it. You know.

1161
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 3: Somebody asked me the question this year because they were

1162
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 3: like talking about this movie I did twenty years ago,

1163
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: and they're like, what has changed then? You know, it's

1164
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 3: like do you think, like you know, you've accomplished success

1165
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 3: and like what is your definition of success?

1166
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 2: Right?

1167
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 3: And I don't know where I got this answer, because

1168
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Speaker 3: I was like, this is a brilliant answer. I just

1169
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 3: came with the fact that even I still am passionate

1170
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 3: about something that wakes me up, and that that motivates

1171
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 3: me to be a better person, to be the better

1172
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: version of myself, to constantly learn and grow. Like I

1173
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 3: was like, that is my definition of the fact that

1174
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 3: I actually still care about something that's really good.

1175
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Speaker 2: It's a luxury to have passion. Yeah, it's a blessing.

1176
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Speaker 1: Thank you, So much for joining us.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me though, this is awesome.

1178
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

1179
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 5: When I saw the podcast get launched, I was like,

1180
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Speaker 5: I don't really want to get on that, and then yeah.

1181
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 4: You guys reached out and so very cool.

1182
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: Thank you, so yeah, thank you