1
00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:07,000
Speaker 1: The volume football seasons. Here, there's only one place to

2
00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,280
Speaker 1: go for tickets, and that is game Time. You know

3
00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,480
Speaker 1: I love game Time. They have a new feature called

4
00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,200
Speaker 1: game Time Picks makes getting tickets for your favorite live

5
00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,919
Speaker 1: events easier. It filters out the fluff to show you

6
00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,159
Speaker 1: only incredible deals on great seats, so you don't have

7
00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,880
Speaker 1: to waste time searching through thousands of tickets. You want

8
00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,799
Speaker 1: to go to a football game or a concert, just

9
00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,240
Speaker 1: click on the event you want to attend and game

10
00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,639
Speaker 1: Time gives you a seat preview and offers you the

11
00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,240
Speaker 1: super deal, so I get the best bang for my buck,

12
00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,519
Speaker 1: and that's what I'm looking for. Game Time also has

13
00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,960
Speaker 1: the lowest price guarantee or they'll credit you one hundred

14
00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,320
Speaker 1: and ten percent of the difference. So take the guesswork

15
00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,320
Speaker 1: out of buying tickets with game Time.

16
00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:40,720
Speaker 2: Right.

17
00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,519
Speaker 1: Download the game Time app doesn't take long. Create an account,

18
00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,360
Speaker 1: use my code the redeem code columns SELN for twenty

19
00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:52,640
Speaker 1: dollars off your first purchase. COLN terms apply. Download game

20
00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,680
Speaker 1: Time today. What time is it? Game Time?

21
00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:00,600
Speaker 2: All right?

22
00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,119
Speaker 1: We got a lot to talk about, mostly the cowboys

23
00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,120
Speaker 1: asking oh god, that was that may have been the

24
00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,960
Speaker 1: worst thing I've seen this year. By the time we're

25
00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,720
Speaker 1: doing this, it was forty six to nine, and we

26
00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,759
Speaker 1: just decided to do this a few minutes early, so

27
00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:22,720
Speaker 1: the final score wasn't quite finished. I'm sure Detroit added

28
00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,760
Speaker 1: more to it. Our Week six reaction presented by Uber

29
00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,679
Speaker 1: Eats get almost almost anything for Game Day. John Middlecoff,

30
00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,160
Speaker 1: former NFL scout for the Eagles three and Out podcasts,

31
00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,520
Speaker 1: for the volume, I mean, there's some million things I

32
00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,559
Speaker 1: had said Friday on FS one, the slow Oil leak

33
00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:44,840
Speaker 1: would begin this week with a schedule. Too many good quarterbacks. God,

34
00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,320
Speaker 1: you could tell early seven to three Cowboys bad tackling

35
00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,080
Speaker 1: dak an end zone pick.

36
00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:52,000
Speaker 2: You know.

37
00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:57,960
Speaker 1: It's my take on Dallas is this roster is if

38
00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,800
Speaker 1: you're going to pay Dack that kind of money you're

39
00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,800
Speaker 1: after hit not just you have to third round, fourth round,

40
00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,720
Speaker 1: fifth round picks have to become stars. You have to

41
00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,240
Speaker 1: find a couple pookin the kolas in the fifth John,

42
00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,040
Speaker 1: this roster, this Cowboy roster is just not very good,

43
00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:11,440
Speaker 1: is it.

44
00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,200
Speaker 2: Well, with the injuries they have, they would not beat

45
00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,760
Speaker 2: any good team in the NFC. They would get boat raced.

46
00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,079
Speaker 2: When you think about all the good teams in the

47
00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,959
Speaker 2: NFC all have excellent offenses. Right Detroit clearly one of

48
00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,960
Speaker 2: the best. They could score forty on them with their

49
00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,639
Speaker 2: eyes closed, the forty nine ers, the Packers, the way

50
00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,600
Speaker 2: Washington's fighting right now, the Vikings you know Caleb all right,

51
00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,640
Speaker 2: the way that offense is humming. So the defense, with

52
00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,959
Speaker 2: their injuries, stands no chance if they are going to win.

53
00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,600
Speaker 2: How often do you win a game in which they

54
00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,600
Speaker 2: did last week, which I gave them credit because it

55
00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,160
Speaker 2: was a gritty performance on the road. Must win. When

56
00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,200
Speaker 2: the quarterback throws two interceptions, he has another fumble, and

57
00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,880
Speaker 2: you get a blocked field goal, it never happens. It

58
00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,600
Speaker 2: shows you how inpt last week fields and that offense was.

59
00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,720
Speaker 2: When he threw the pick today, Oh you know, I

60
00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,160
Speaker 2: said last week? Is he one of the more bizarre

61
00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,239
Speaker 2: players the way? You know? Because obviously he's good and

62
00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,920
Speaker 2: has awesome moments, but then he consistently lets you down

63
00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,880
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. But he's played very well in some

64
00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,680
Speaker 2: huge regular season games that are being watched by thirty

65
00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,120
Speaker 2: plus million. He plays for the Cowboys. But god, he

66
00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,000
Speaker 2: throws a lot of picks. You know that that ed

67
00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,720
Speaker 2: zone pick then turns into a field goal, So that's

68
00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,040
Speaker 2: a six point swing, and then the routes on and

69
00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,840
Speaker 2: they had no if they were going to win today,

70
00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,720
Speaker 2: it was gonna have to be like thirty five to

71
00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,800
Speaker 2: thirty and he just kind of imploded and looked like

72
00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,600
Speaker 2: a different guy and started their offensive line and all

73
00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,760
Speaker 2: their offensive weapons got tapped out after well, you know,

74
00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,120
Speaker 2: five minutes into the second quarter.

75
00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,480
Speaker 1: I've said, like for years, I've compared him to Kirk

76
00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,720
Speaker 1: Cousins with more mobility, but I think Kirk showing it

77
00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,240
Speaker 1: again in Atlanta. Kirk's a better thrower of the football.

78
00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,760
Speaker 1: Kirk doesn't make a ton of mistakes and friends, is

79
00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,400
Speaker 1: more accurate, just just a more accurate thrower to the football.

80
00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,760
Speaker 1: If you asked, if you asked, I mean, right now,

81
00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,000
Speaker 1: I get Kirk Cousins. He's got about half of Dak's

82
00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,920
Speaker 1: contract and he's a better thrower of the football. And

83
00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,760
Speaker 1: so we always love all these mobile quarterbacks. But the

84
00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,920
Speaker 1: truth is with Aaron Rodgers and Dak right now, they're

85
00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,800
Speaker 1: not very mobile. I mean that. I mean, hell, I

86
00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,160
Speaker 1: watched Baker Mayfield and bow Knicks today. Bo Nix is fast.

87
00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:18,960
Speaker 1: You don't have to love him, but Jesus the kid

88
00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,440
Speaker 1: brought dirty moves really well. So I think Mike McCarthy

89
00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,279
Speaker 1: is paying the price for Jerry Jones ego. Now you know,

90
00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:26,960
Speaker 1: an eighty one year old guy wants to be the

91
00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,000
Speaker 1: general manager call press conferences. And I've said this before,

92
00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,280
Speaker 1: I just don't know how good of a job this is.

93
00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,880
Speaker 1: You walk into a job. I mean, let's be honest,

94
00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,760
Speaker 1: there's two great jobs to take in this league. You

95
00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,000
Speaker 1: got a star quarterback and you're gonna have to pay him,

96
00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,640
Speaker 1: or you have a talented rookie quarterback by caliber Jaden

97
00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,640
Speaker 1: Daniels on a rookie contract. So now I got to

98
00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,720
Speaker 1: play around with some chess pieces. I can go buy

99
00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,640
Speaker 1: a pass rusher. What you don't want to have is

100
00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,200
Speaker 1: an average guy that you're overpaying. And Kirk Cousins deal

101
00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,080
Speaker 1: right now is a very solid deal. It's not egregious.

102
00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,839
Speaker 1: They don't have to get rid of anybody the Dak deal,

103
00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,000
Speaker 1: which hasn't even started the new one yet. I think

104
00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,040
Speaker 1: this is going to be a downhill trajectory for years

105
00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:07,480
Speaker 1: to me.

106
00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,000
Speaker 2: I do think Jerry's drafted relatively well though. I mean

107
00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,680
Speaker 2: they've won twelve games three straight years, but they kind

108
00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,000
Speaker 2: of hit the point this year where they lost a

109
00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,160
Speaker 2: bunch of guys in free agency and they were going

110
00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,280
Speaker 2: to have to double down obviously on Dak and then

111
00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,560
Speaker 2: Micah hadn't even been paid and they paid CD. So

112
00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,200
Speaker 2: now those John becomes an NBA squad. But let's be.

113
00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:31,040
Speaker 1: Honest, though, the last two years, Aaron Rodgers leaves the NFC,

114
00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,280
Speaker 1: a lot of these, Jordan loves a lot of the

115
00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,480
Speaker 1: you know, Chicago did nev Caleb Washington was a mess.

116
00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,719
Speaker 1: San Francisco was great, Detroit was good. Now they're exceptional.

117
00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,719
Speaker 1: The last two years, the NFCS had a pretty weak

118
00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,919
Speaker 1: middle and bottom. Well that's the yeah, yeah, that I

119
00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,320
Speaker 1: mean Green Bay Detroit. So there was this window and

120
00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,560
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, they won twelve games, that's a nine

121
00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:57,799
Speaker 1: win team in the AFC.

122
00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,880
Speaker 2: That's fair because they weren't. Then they'd get into the

123
00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,280
Speaker 2: dance and they would get beat at home by the Niners.

124
00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,400
Speaker 2: They would get rolled at home by the Packers. They

125
00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,480
Speaker 2: would go on the road and get beat by the Niners.

126
00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,719
Speaker 2: So it's like, well, they got their chances with it inflated. Yeah,

127
00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,520
Speaker 2: that is fair because the comp the division was Listen,

128
00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,960
Speaker 2: they always played Philly tight, right, They're probably gonna split

129
00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,240
Speaker 2: those games most years. And they got to beat up

130
00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,240
Speaker 2: on Washington in the Giants, and clearly Washington today to

131
00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,120
Speaker 2: me was actually a big winner. I was like, damn,

132
00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,400
Speaker 2: they might be a little better than I thought. Yeah,

133
00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,400
Speaker 2: sometimes I'm more impressed with them in a loss than

134
00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:31,840
Speaker 2: I have with some of there. But that's a problem

135
00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,880
Speaker 2: for the Cowboys and the Eagles because I'm watching the

136
00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,800
Speaker 2: Eagles a day and Sirianni's screaming at fans. It's like, hey, Nick,

137
00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,800
Speaker 2: calm down, buddy. I mean, you're barely beating the Browns

138
00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,239
Speaker 2: is like a ten point favorite at home. Your fans

139
00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:43,840
Speaker 2: aren't happy with you, and then they have a point.

140
00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,120
Speaker 2: And the Cowboys, this was obviously a bad matchup for

141
00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,320
Speaker 2: them given their injuries, but they're just getting their butt

142
00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,320
Speaker 2: kicked at home. And Dak talked about it this week.

143
00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,279
Speaker 2: He's like, listen, you know, we got to start. We

144
00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:56,960
Speaker 2: got to take care of business at home. It ain't

145
00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,920
Speaker 2: even close. It ain't even close.

146
00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:05,120
Speaker 1: Listen, go back to last year. Hackers, Saint Ravens, Lions

147
00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,960
Speaker 1: have humiliated them at home. Now, those are good teams,

148
00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:12,480
Speaker 1: that's near the top of the league.

149
00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,880
Speaker 2: Well, that's to your argument then they're twelve wins, a

150
00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,800
Speaker 2: little inflated. And then when you get them against the

151
00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,480
Speaker 2: big boys, they get some track. The Eagles, who they're

152
00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,400
Speaker 2: comfortable playing, they're getting work. Look at the Niners game

153
00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,280
Speaker 2: last year, I mean, what was the planal score of that?

154
00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,440
Speaker 2: Like forty five to ten? You got this thot So

155
00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:28,120
Speaker 2: I think.

156
00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,720
Speaker 1: I think you have to really, this will sound crazy.

157
00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,760
Speaker 1: I would considering. Listen, you're gonna pay. They already paid

158
00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,840
Speaker 1: Dak and CD. Would you consider to get draft capital?

159
00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,520
Speaker 1: You get a first round pick for Micah.

160
00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,200
Speaker 2: You get, you'd get more than that. I get. I

161
00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,440
Speaker 2: met people ask me, cowboy fan, should we just do this?

162
00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,960
Speaker 2: What's the point Our defense isn't even close? Why wouldn't

163
00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:52,680
Speaker 2: we just start over?

164
00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,000
Speaker 1: And Hutchison's injury today is hurt breaking for Detroit. But

165
00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,000
Speaker 1: before that injury, he's not Miles Garrett. He's not high,

166
00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,720
Speaker 1: he's not Nick Bosa, He's not He's not as big

167
00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,160
Speaker 1: as strong. He can be overwhelmed by like a Trent Williams.

168
00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,200
Speaker 1: He can disappear in big spots with top tackles.

169
00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,120
Speaker 2: I think.

170
00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,560
Speaker 1: Micah a lot of teams would use an edge rusher.

171
00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,600
Speaker 1: I think you have to think about moving off it,

172
00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,120
Speaker 1: getting a first and a third and just going into

173
00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,160
Speaker 1: the because what Dallas has to find now, John, they

174
00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,640
Speaker 1: got to find cheap, good players. And so I do

175
00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,959
Speaker 1: want to say this about Detroit. Tom Brady made a

176
00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,480
Speaker 1: point today and I thought it was a really good one.

177
00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:41,040
Speaker 1: He said, Detroit has something that is really special. They

178
00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,520
Speaker 1: can play power football. They can play efficient football with

179
00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,360
Speaker 1: that offensive line. They can play keep away just grind

180
00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,079
Speaker 1: you out, or they can throw the ball. But they

181
00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,600
Speaker 1: can also get clever with Ben Jompson. It's a really

182
00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,120
Speaker 1: fun offense for players. It's very rare, John, Usually you

183
00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,160
Speaker 1: have to pick your spots and they don't have a

184
00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,560
Speaker 1: mobile quarterback. But shit, they can road grade you. They

185
00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,960
Speaker 1: can go over the top with Williams. They do trick

186
00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:10,600
Speaker 1: plays with Ben Johnson. Hutchison's injury is just devastating and gutting.

187
00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,360
Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you there's not a lot of

188
00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,120
Speaker 1: offenses in the league that can beat you like six ways.

189
00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,400
Speaker 1: I thought it was a good point I Detroit. I

190
00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,480
Speaker 1: mean Dallas today had no answers and yeah, plus injuries,

191
00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,199
Speaker 1: but they did seven eight different ways to beat you.

192
00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,839
Speaker 2: Well, with McCaffrey out as the most complete offense in

193
00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,800
Speaker 2: the league. And one thing they even had over the

194
00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,800
Speaker 2: forty nine ers last year is their offensive line is

195
00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,360
Speaker 2: just better. I mean, Brady mentioned that Pine Stools the

196
00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,800
Speaker 2: best right tackle in the NFL. You know now that

197
00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,280
Speaker 2: you know Lane's an aging player, you know the thing

198
00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,760
Speaker 2: that hit me when he's laying on the ground. And

199
00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,319
Speaker 2: I would imagine beating a team seven hundred to nothing

200
00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,559
Speaker 2: in the locker room, It's it's not gonna be as

201
00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,319
Speaker 2: joyous as sometimes they can be with Dan Campbell. It's

202
00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,720
Speaker 2: gonna be a weird vibe for them. I think the team,

203
00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,800
Speaker 2: and you know their general manager comes from the Rams,

204
00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:01,120
Speaker 2: Brad Quinn, bray Quinn is his name, and he he's

205
00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:05,520
Speaker 2: seen Brad Wessein Brad Quinn yeah, or excuse me, Brad Holmes.

206
00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,360
Speaker 2: And he saw Les and Shawn and that operation get

207
00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,280
Speaker 2: really aggressive over the years. And he was part of

208
00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,880
Speaker 2: an aggressive trade when they did the samh the Matt

209
00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,040
Speaker 2: Stafford Jared Goff trade. Don't you call the Raiders. I

210
00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,520
Speaker 2: mean that thing is just that's a tire fire burning

211
00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,000
Speaker 2: even stronger by the week and just say, hey, listen,

212
00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,680
Speaker 2: we'll give you two ones for Max Crosby. Yeah, like seriously.

213
00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,920
Speaker 2: You know Max Crosby played his college football at a

214
00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,880
Speaker 2: smaller school in Michigan. Yeah, the Raiders are going nowhere

215
00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:37,120
Speaker 2: with him. Obviously DeVante separate, but hey, because you can't.

216
00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,200
Speaker 2: You have games like today before He's laying there on

217
00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,280
Speaker 2: the ground and some of their players are in tears.

218
00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,599
Speaker 2: I mean Jared Gofwelklet he was crying because Jared's no

219
00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,679
Speaker 2: dummy like he's He's been to a Super Bowl, he

220
00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,360
Speaker 2: got close last year. He knows that's their best player

221
00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,960
Speaker 2: on their team at the most important non quarterback position

222
00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,600
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Laying there with We obviously didn't see

223
00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,200
Speaker 2: the replay what I would have magine, and there might

224
00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,440
Speaker 2: have been a bone sticking out of his leg. It

225
00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,040
Speaker 2: took a long time for them to get him in

226
00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:02,200
Speaker 2: the car.

227
00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:03,520
Speaker 1: Well, Fox, I wouldn't show it.

228
00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I if you told me it was a

229
00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,400
Speaker 2: compound fracture, that's kind of what I expected to me.

230
00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,760
Speaker 2: Max Crosby honestly kind of fits their ethos and their culture.

231
00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,280
Speaker 2: Like if I'm the Lions, Max Crosby makes more sense

232
00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,920
Speaker 2: than giving the farm for Micah Parsis, who's a little

233
00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,640
Speaker 2: bit more of a one trick pony, would you offer

234
00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,400
Speaker 2: two ones for Max Crosby. Obviously there's financial, you know,

235
00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,320
Speaker 2: situations there, but I think I would go all in

236
00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,640
Speaker 2: on this because if you're Detroit, you're thinking if our

237
00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,920
Speaker 2: defense two weeks ago or three weeks ago against Geno's, like,

238
00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,640
Speaker 2: what the hell is this? You can't win a super

239
00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,240
Speaker 2: Bowl and you can't cover. But if you subtract that game,

240
00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,520
Speaker 2: they've been actually pretty good on defense, Like they look

241
00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,960
Speaker 2: like a different team today, but you're not winning a

242
00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,760
Speaker 2: super Bowl. I don't think with him on gone for

243
00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,680
Speaker 2: the year with no replacement, And to me, Max Crosby

244
00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,640
Speaker 2: and would be worth it to quote unquote overspend a

245
00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:52,760
Speaker 2: little bit to get them.

246
00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,560
Speaker 1: And also, you know the Raiders would do it because

247
00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,400
Speaker 1: they want multiple ones because they want to be able

248
00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,240
Speaker 1: to have chess pieces to move up the board if

249
00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,679
Speaker 1: they are like fourth or fifth, they're going to get

250
00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:05,199
Speaker 1: a quarterback.

251
00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:05,880
Speaker 2: That's obvious.

252
00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,040
Speaker 1: No, I think that's great. I think there's a couple

253
00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,840
Speaker 1: of things that are going to happen at the trade deadline,

254
00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,360
Speaker 1: so the Cowboys are humiliated. Max Crosby to the Lions,

255
00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:21,080
Speaker 1: I think is a kind of a sharp suggestion. The

256
00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,840
Speaker 1: roller coaster of an NFL season is moving right along,

257
00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,040
Speaker 1: and it promises to be a month full of tricks, treats,

258
00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,560
Speaker 1: and of course, touchdowns. And DraftKings sports book and official

259
00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,640
Speaker 1: sports betting partner of the NFL, is the number one

260
00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,600
Speaker 1: place to always bet touchdowns, running it in from the

261
00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,240
Speaker 1: one or an eighty yard bomb. We don't care how

262
00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,280
Speaker 1: they score them. We want to bet them. DraftKings hurt

263
00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,400
Speaker 1: us and is delivering. If you're ready to place your

264
00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,040
Speaker 1: first bet, make it simple. Bet on a player scoring

265
00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,880
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Go to DraftKings dot com a DraftKings sportsbooks app.

266
00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,160
Speaker 1: Make your pick. Here's a reason for new customers to

267
00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,840
Speaker 1: do a touchdown dance of their own. Bet five that's it.

268
00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,640
Speaker 1: Bet five bucks, get two hundred instantly in bonus bets.

269
00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,840
Speaker 1: Draftking the number one place to bet touchdowns. Download their

270
00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,439
Speaker 1: app takes ninety seconds. The code is col I N

271
00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,360
Speaker 1: use the code column. Bet five bucks get two hundred

272
00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,880
Speaker 1: bonus bets instantly only on DraftKings. The crown is.

273
00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,920
Speaker 3: Yours gambling problem called one eight hundred gambler In New

274
00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,200
Speaker 3: York call eight seven seven eight ope and wy or

275
00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,600
Speaker 3: text hope and Y four six seven three six nine.

276
00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,440
Speaker 3: In Connecticut, help is available for problem gambling called eight

277
00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,599
Speaker 3: eight eight seven eight nine seven seven seven seven or

278
00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,000
Speaker 3: visit CCPG dot org. Please play responsibly on behalf of

279
00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,959
Speaker 3: Boothill Casino when resorting Kansas twenty one and over. Agent

280
00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,640
Speaker 3: eligibility varies by jurisdiction, Void and Ontario. Bonus bets expire

281
00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,800
Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty eight hours after issue INCE four.

282
00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,720
Speaker 3: Additional terms and responsible gaming resources see DKNNG dot co

283
00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,000
Speaker 3: slash ft ball.

284
00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,280
Speaker 1: There's no order we have to go in today. I

285
00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,120
Speaker 1: do want to go back. I want to go to

286
00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,800
Speaker 1: the Chicago Jacksonville game because I don't know if I've

287
00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,840
Speaker 1: felt this way about the Chicago Bears. And I'm not

288
00:13:54,960 --> 00:14:02,400
Speaker 1: joking in a decade. So thirty five sixteen over Jacksonville. Listen,

289
00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:08,199
Speaker 1: Caleb's gotten better every week and Jacksonville Doug Peterson's probably

290
00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,240
Speaker 1: the next coach to get fired. I mean, they don't

291
00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,960
Speaker 1: do anything well, but John, you start looking at that

292
00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,960
Speaker 1: performance today. He in over the last three to four weeks,

293
00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:23,280
Speaker 1: his confidence and I think some of that stuff was

294
00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,480
Speaker 1: generated from scheme and play calling. Some of it wasn't.

295
00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,360
Speaker 1: But twenty three to twenty seven four tds fifty percent

296
00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,040
Speaker 1: on third down and by the way, Keenan Allen is

297
00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,080
Speaker 1: back today. I looked at that Chicago team and I'm like,

298
00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,000
Speaker 1: I've has any other team in the league gotten noticeably

299
00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,480
Speaker 1: better four to five weeks.

300
00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,520
Speaker 2: In a row? Can I push back a little bit? Sure? Sure,

301
00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,760
Speaker 2: because I do think listen, part of making the playoffs,

302
00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,680
Speaker 2: especially with a team like the Bears, who haven't been

303
00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,880
Speaker 2: good in a long time, you're gonna have to spit

304
00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,000
Speaker 2: your playing a last play schedule win games against bad teams,

305
00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,120
Speaker 2: right right, you can get to nine to ten wins.

306
00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,640
Speaker 2: Five of them are gonna come against crappy opponents, and

307
00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,360
Speaker 2: they're doing that, so they deserve credit. There are four

308
00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:09,680
Speaker 2: wins come against four teams who have each won one game. Right.

309
00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:14,360
Speaker 2: The Jags are terrible, The Panthers are probably worse. The

310
00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,960
Speaker 2: Titans are probably worse than both of them. You know,

311
00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,960
Speaker 2: I mean we're talking bad teams now, right. This is

312
00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,040
Speaker 2: not college. You don't set your schedule here, so you

313
00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,800
Speaker 2: just play the way it breaks. They play down the stretch.

314
00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,400
Speaker 2: If they do this in some games against the Lions,

315
00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,240
Speaker 2: against Minnesota, I'll be the first to say this didn't

316
00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,080
Speaker 2: be a scary team in the playoffs. They go a

317
00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,840
Speaker 2: stretch where they basically play six divisional games, all starting

318
00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,720
Speaker 2: within like I think in like three weeks from now

319
00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,800
Speaker 2: with the Packers till the end of the season, with

320
00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,240
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers thrown in there, I'll be very

321
00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,560
Speaker 2: interested to see how they look because we've seen them

322
00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,960
Speaker 2: against one good team this year. Now, like you said,

323
00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,040
Speaker 2: young quarterback new to the NFL, listen, I'm not trying

324
00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,080
Speaker 2: to act like you shouldn't put all your eggs in

325
00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,360
Speaker 2: the basket on the game September tenth, more than the

326
00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,080
Speaker 2: middle of October with a rookie quarterback. But they got

327
00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,440
Speaker 2: destroy against the Texans, who are a clear playoff team.

328
00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,760
Speaker 2: So it's they're doing what they're supposed to do. They

329
00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,600
Speaker 2: clearly have a lot of confidence the wide receivers. Caleb

330
00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:13,720
Speaker 2: to me, he's much I would say more, feels more

331
00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,480
Speaker 2: comfortable throwing the ball down field.

332
00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,960
Speaker 1: No, and and by the way he's developed our relationship

333
00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,320
Speaker 1: now with two players Cole Comette and DJ Moore, he

334
00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,280
Speaker 1: is clearly comfortab now Keenan Allen's probably a progression in

335
00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,280
Speaker 1: three weeks, but there is something to be said, Like

336
00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,360
Speaker 1: he made a couple throws to cole Comett today and

337
00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,600
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, he's found his tight end, he's got

338
00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,600
Speaker 1: his deep threat. Sometimes it takes like bow Nicks in

339
00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,400
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton Obviously bow trusts him, doesn't trust the other guys.

340
00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:42,920
Speaker 2: I I don't know.

341
00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,440
Speaker 1: I kind of look at it and I think to myself,

342
00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,280
Speaker 1: they'll probably go two and four against those teams in

343
00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,560
Speaker 1: their division. But I do think but.

344
00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,440
Speaker 2: If the Colline they go two and four, they're probably

345
00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,000
Speaker 2: in the playoffs because they got some other crappy teams

346
00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,040
Speaker 2: coming up on the schedule. And if they were to

347
00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,760
Speaker 2: beat Washington, I think they play him next week. All

348
00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,320
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you're looking, they would all they have

349
00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,120
Speaker 2: to go to and four and if they be I

350
00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,080
Speaker 2: think they got Seattle late in the year to get

351
00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,439
Speaker 2: to nine wins and that's probably a wild card spot.

352
00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,520
Speaker 2: So to me, there's a big difference to and four,

353
00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,840
Speaker 2: like oh, I mean it's ozho and six because to me,

354
00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:17,040
Speaker 2: you look at their division, they're the fourth best team obvious,

355
00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:17,960
Speaker 2: that's the best division.

356
00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,919
Speaker 1: That's the best division now easily in the NFL.

357
00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:21,879
Speaker 2: This isn't a bad thing to say because you go, well,

358
00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,000
Speaker 2: the Packers obviously are good. The Lions, you know, if

359
00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,280
Speaker 2: they can somehow get a replacement for Hutchinson or a

360
00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,000
Speaker 2: juggernaut and the fight he's got to lost the game,

361
00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:32,920
Speaker 2: and we're one of the best coach teams in the league.

362
00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,240
Speaker 2: So I've torn with him because I tip your hat.

363
00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,360
Speaker 2: You do what you're supposed to do. But they're doing

364
00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,440
Speaker 2: it against the number one teams you would want to

365
00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,320
Speaker 2: play for, Like we need to win this week, you

366
00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,320
Speaker 2: would sign up for the teams they're playing. They played

367
00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,360
Speaker 2: the Patriots in a couple weeks. There's another win.

368
00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:54,600
Speaker 1: I will say this Eberflus is interesting because, like Robert Sala,

369
00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,080
Speaker 1: I think he's really good on his side of the ball.

370
00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,040
Speaker 1: And the difference is Aaron doesn't extend pocket like Caleb.

371
00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,560
Speaker 1: And you know Caleb today, you know I just told

372
00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:05,159
Speaker 1: to the numbers.

373
00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:05,680
Speaker 2: I mean he was.

374
00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:11,479
Speaker 1: Almost like perfect even his postgame interview, like he just

375
00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,200
Speaker 1: he's confident without being obnoxious, like he's getting very comfortable.

376
00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,320
Speaker 1: Even after justin Field's wins, I felt they were a

377
00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,560
Speaker 1: little bit of a mirage. I'd be like, Okay, like

378
00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,879
Speaker 1: today you're like today Caleb sat in the pocket like

379
00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,600
Speaker 1: and clearly is connecting with his guys, and I'm like,

380
00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,879
Speaker 1: this is a he can sit in the pocket and throw.

381
00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,600
Speaker 2: Totally agree, and I'm not comparing them to last year's

382
00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,639
Speaker 2: fraudulent wins with the Chicago Bears. I'm just saying that

383
00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,240
Speaker 2: the power of their opponents has a little feel. We're

384
00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,960
Speaker 2: seeing what's happening with Lane in Ole, miss. You watch

385
00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,000
Speaker 2: the first four weeks, like, gee, this team could go

386
00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,720
Speaker 2: eleven and one. All of a sudden they start playing

387
00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,639
Speaker 2: some better teams and now you're like, are they going

388
00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,000
Speaker 2: to get to nine and three? And it's because of

389
00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,800
Speaker 2: the of the talents and I mean the strength of

390
00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,879
Speaker 2: the teams they have to go through, starting with their division,

391
00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,919
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, and it's just we've seen him

392
00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,800
Speaker 2: play one good team and it was I put it

393
00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,639
Speaker 2: more on the coaching staff too. Warner said something that

394
00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,480
Speaker 2: have you ever flown JSX? You ever heard of that?

395
00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:09,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

396
00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's incredible, and they starlink. I was on the

397
00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,120
Speaker 2: plane today you could watch it was like faster than

398
00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,440
Speaker 2: my TV at my house and I'm watching the game

399
00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,520
Speaker 2: in Warner's like, you know what, Shane Waldron told me

400
00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,479
Speaker 2: he doesn't script any plays. And you can tell Warner

401
00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,080
Speaker 2: was it's a little weird. You know, most most coaches

402
00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,880
Speaker 2: do the first fifteen. He's just a field guy. I'm

403
00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,400
Speaker 2: like Kyle Shannean scripts the second half as well at halftime.

404
00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,760
Speaker 2: I mean most coaches coming back to Bill Wallash. So

405
00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:38,000
Speaker 2: that's just your field coach, offensive guy with a young quarterback.

406
00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:42,719
Speaker 2: But you comet stud obviously, Keenan back Romes. They've developed

407
00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,399
Speaker 2: a little chemistry Roman Caleb and Dj is a special player.

408
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,639
Speaker 2: So they just have so many weapons. Can the O

409
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,719
Speaker 2: line hold up against the better teams they play and

410
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,840
Speaker 2: not get Caleb killed which we saw in the one

411
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 2: primetime game. Yeah, because when he's comfortable some of the

412
00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 2: touch passes day we're not there or four weeks ago,

413
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,920
Speaker 2: regardless of who's toast, that was.

414
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he made a couple of He made a throw

415
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,199
Speaker 1: last week Dj Moore back of the end zone that

416
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,119
Speaker 1: was like a veteran play as a Mahomes throw. That

417
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,439
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, that's a big boy throw today. He

418
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,639
Speaker 1: wasn't forced into that situation much, but okay, I want to.

419
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,200
Speaker 2: Give a conversation about that. The other quarterback though really quick.

420
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,359
Speaker 2: It was on the other side, you know.

421
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,680
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence Trevor. Because first of all, that staff it's

422
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,879
Speaker 1: not working. You know, Doug Peterson had a reputation, so

423
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 1: I was totally wrong. I thought he was a perfect fit,

424
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 1: kind of a casual guy. I thought it was gonna work.

425
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,120
Speaker 1: But you know, when he went to Philadelphia at work,

426
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 1: because Laurie and Howie are so intense, and so they're

427
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 1: hovering over the franchise right like you know that. I mean,

428
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 1: everybody in Philly we know they're security guy, and the

429
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 1: talk radio.

430
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:51,879
Speaker 2: Is on you.

431
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 1: If you have one bad situational series. Philadelphia holds its

432
00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,120
Speaker 1: coach is responsible. You go down to Jacksonville, nobody's paying

433
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 1: attention and it's like the worst of Doug Peterson's come out.

434
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 1: They're loose, they're not good on details. That was the

435
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 1: knock when he went to Philly. It's like, you know,

436
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 1: and he's calling the plays. You know, he loves to

437
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 1: give guys ice cream. He's always rewarding him. He's like

438
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,880
Speaker 1: the stepdad everybody loves. You can't do that in Philadelphia.

439
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 1: You'll get your ass wrung out by WIP radio, the fans.

440
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 1: I mean, that's Philadelphia is one of those studies. They

441
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 1: hold you accountable. Jacksonville doesn't. And I think the team

442
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 1: just feels loose and inefficient.

443
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with anyone that makes the argument. By

444
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 2: the time, if someone's listening to this Monday morning at breakfast,

445
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 2: he might get relieved of his duties. I do think

446
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 2: they'll watching Trevor Lawrence, like separate from coaching just to

447
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,679
Speaker 2: make basic passes. And there were times today where his

448
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 2: guys It's the NFL, had some bad drops. So I'm

449
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 2: not acting like this guy's jim Arcus Russell here or

450
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: Joey Harrington. But for someone that got two hundred million

451
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 2: dollars based on I would say limited production and success,

452
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 2: it did feel a little bit like what bad NBA

453
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 2: teams do, like the Washington Wizards when they gave Bradley

454
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 2: Beal two hundred and fifty million dollars. And I don't

455
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 2: know if this is going to work in that operation.

456
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 2: That's right, and listen. I think at this point in time,

457
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 2: I don't think it's really debatable that his career has

458
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 2: been a borderline. I mean for him, not really. He's

459
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 2: made a bunch of money, but as a player, the

460
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: hype was very similar to Andrew Locke, and you watch

461
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 2: the guy play, he's not even in the same It

462
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 2: wasn't even on the same level as Caleb Williams that

463
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 2: a lot of people were making fun of like three

464
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,199
Speaker 2: weeks previously. Oh, Caleb was.

465
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: You know there's sometimes John, something happens where there's a

466
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 1: convergence of things either good or bad. So you have

467
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 1: sort of casual not tied on the details. Doug Peterson,

468
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: a quarterback who reportedly likes the game, doesn't live for it,

469
00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 1: a media that's toothless, and a market nobody pays attention to.

470
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: So if you have a bad series, nobody calls you out.

471
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 1: And there they've all joined together and it's it's what

472
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: happened to why Nick Saban and guys like Nick Saban

473
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: after wins called good press. You know, rat poison is

474
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: that everybody acts the same way when they lose their pissed,

475
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: but when you win, you get sloppy and lazy, and

476
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: Jacksonville feels like a sloppy franchise to me. All these

477
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 1: things converge. A quarterback that likes the game, but that

478
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: was the knock. That was the knock very early in

479
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: his career. Like, he doesn't live for it, he's not

480
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 1: obsessed by it, and Breeze was obsessed Manning was Mahomes

481
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 1: is obsessed, and I just think all these things are

482
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: adding up to a to a big soft pillow of

483
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: a team.

484
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. To me, just their record speaks for itself since

485
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 2: the Cons have owned the family. Just google where they've

486
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 2: drafted every single year. I mean the majority is not

487
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 2: the top ten, it's the top five. I mean that's

488
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 2: that's hard to do, all right.

489
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: He's a former scout for the Eagles. Philadelphia twenty, Cleveland

490
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 1: sixteen Deshaun Watson. We could go on. I mean, he's

491
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: playing because the owner wants him to play, and Kevin

492
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: Stefanski's taken the sword for the organization. Deshaun just can't play.

493
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 1: But it is interesting about Philly. So they were an

494
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 1: eight and a half point favorite today and j Mack

495
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 1: was all over this, and I'm like, I'm not taking

496
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: an eight and a half point favorite because Philadelphia is weird.

497
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: So if I just if you didn't watch the game,

498
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 1: and I said Jalen Hurts was sixteen to twenty five,

499
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: fourteen Rushes two sixty four to two TDS, Aj Brown

500
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 1: DeVante Smith had touchdowns, you would think, Jesus, they look

501
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 1: great when I watched them, I'll get to Sirianni in

502
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: a second. Well, when I watched Philadelphia, I feel like

503
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,479
Speaker 1: they leave so much on the floor, so much on

504
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: the table. Is that, first of all, they're not the

505
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: same team without AJ Brown. He's clearly a difference maker.

506
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: Very rarely does a receiver have that kind of impact.

507
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: I mean, you could Brandon Ayuke didn't do so squad

508
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: for weeks. San Francisco could still score points. Ceedee Lamb,

509
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: you take him out. Dallas can't score I mean, and

510
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: AJ Brown is really I mean, I've never seen a

511
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: coach when he loses a player act like Mike vrabelbin

512
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: when they lost to AJ Brown, Like Vrabel was like, okay,

513
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: I can't remember that press conference. It's like I can't

514
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: win here, like it's over. And Vrabel's not somebody who loves,

515
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: you know, outspoken receivers. That's not his game. So but

516
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, I just I look at Philadelphia and I

517
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: think the coach is screaming at fans.

518
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 2: I feel I don't know, I feel.

519
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: Like the roster's closer to an A and the performance

520
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: always feels like a b am I wrong.

521
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah to me? The quarterback, like you said, we can

522
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 2: get into Syriana here in a minute, if we just

523
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 2: use Jalen in a vacuum, Well, three of the plays

524
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 2: he hit aj Brown twice on big go routes and

525
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: then he hit DeVante Adams or DeVante Smith on a

526
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,479
Speaker 2: big play. So what does that account for hundred and

527
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 2: twenty five hundred and thirty of the two hundreds.

528
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: Those guys are between the two one hundred and seventy

529
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: five yards.

530
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so to me, he's a go ball thrower, which

531
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 2: when all you do is throw a gobal, this isn't

532
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: college or high school that those don't hit often in

533
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: the pros and kind of a scramble run around guy.

534
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 2: He cannot pick you apart in the pocket. There was

535
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 2: one point in time today in the game where I

536
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: think Vilma was like, I don't know why these fans

537
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: are booing. You don't know why. It's thirteen to ten

538
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 2: against the Browns. They can't move the ball and Jalen's

539
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: the ball's flying all over the place. There is no

540
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: rhythm to their offense. It looks very similar as it

541
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 2: did last year. And at one point in time I

542
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 2: looked down at the box score, I'm like, I'd have

543
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 2: to find a way to get the ball to Saquan

544
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: even more. Yeah, And I think sometimes coaches, you know

545
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 2: he had when I look down, he was like fifteen

546
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 2: rushes and he was averaging a little less than three

547
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: yards of carry. Yeah, so most coaches freak out and go,

548
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 2: this isn't working. Well. You don't have Peyton Manning or

549
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 2: Tom Brady slinging the pill around. So just keep the

550
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahans McVeigh back when he had Todd Gurley. They

551
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 2: will stick with it because when you ever you have

552
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry, eventually the guy might break a play for

553
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: thirty yards. Slows down the game, makes it easier on

554
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 2: your quarterback. And I think they have been way too

555
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 2: quick to get away from Saquon because really the only

556
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 2: passes they're hitting are these kind of bombs down the field.

557
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 2: It's why when you remove AJ, they look even worse.

558
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: I mean, if AJ obviously had been hurt like he

559
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: had previous weeks, I think they lose today.

560
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: Let me give you a comp if their defense was

561
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: the Legion of Boom and Seattle, they could win a

562
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Because when you go back and look at

563
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's career, what we know now happened late in Seattle,

564
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: Denver and Pittsburgh. He was great with the rainbow throws

565
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: over the top or when he was moving. He had

566
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: a great running back. But if you ask Russell to

567
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: sit in the pocket, Pete Carroll and John Snyder and

568
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: Peyton were like, it doesn't work. So Philadelphia has not

569
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 1: had a great defense, especially in the back end. So

570
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: they lose, you know, they give up points. But for years,

571
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,959
Speaker 1: in years, I said this Friday on the show is

572
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: I was full. I thought Russ was engineering stuff. Let

573
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: Russ cook. I bought into it. And then all of

574
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: a sudden, you're like, boy, when you take away that

575
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: defense and Marshaw and You're like, I don't know. He

576
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: can't go toe to toe with the big guys from

577
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: the pocket. If you can contain him, bring the rush

578
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 1: ends in and just box him in. Russell's a very ineffective.

579
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: Part two is a better pocket guy than Russell Wilson.

580
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: And I look at Jalen Hurts and I and I

581
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: see a little Russell Wilson where over the top, Yes,

582
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: surround it with the I mean, good guy. He had

583
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: the best center in a decade Lane Johnson, aj Brown.

584
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: It's easy to look like it's you. But to your

585
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: point in the pocket, I don't trust him.

586
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing watching Washington play today, Jaden is

587
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: such a better thrower standing there within the tackle box,

588
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: if not really even close. Well, he's got a better arm,

589
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: he's more naturally accurate. Most people thought. You know, whenever

590
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 2: you text people in the league when Jalen Hurts are struggling,

591
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: they all go, yeah, it kind of reminds me Oklahoma again,

592
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: kind of reminds me of the guy that everyone scat

593
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: in thought is when he got drafted second round, the

594
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: Eagles didn't just get questioned because they drafted a quarterback

595
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: in the second round. When they had wentz it was

596
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: they took him that high. He was like, damn. And

597
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: sometimes it comes out like he's not a great thrower

598
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 2: of the football. Obviously he throws a good go ball,

599
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: but just a good thrower of the football in the pocket.

600
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: We just talked about Kirk Cousins. I had Jay Gruden

601
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: on the pod like a month ago. He's like, if

602
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: you don't touch him, he might be the best seven

603
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: on seven player in the league right just throwing. Just

604
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: he's a good thrower of the football. Jalen. I don't

605
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: know if he's not comfortable, it's not natural. He doesn't

606
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: have great velocity on just sitting in the pocket throws,

607
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: which is weird for a guy that does have a

608
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 2: powerful arm on the loop throw. You know, Russell had

609
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: a better ball in his prime than Jalen, just throwing

610
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: like an outrout or whatever. He just wasn't that comfortable

611
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: throwing it over the middle from the pocket because he

612
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: couldn't see. Jalen's a little shorter. He's taller than Russell,

613
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: but shorter than average quarterback. So maybe it's just not

614
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: as comfortable seeing stuff because he clearly when he moves

615
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: is better outside the tackles making plays. But you can't

616
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 2: run a consistent offense play in that way. Yeah, it's very,

617
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: very difficult. So now it's going to be another coach

618
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 2: or a coordinator's fault. Maybe it's just a player.

619
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me ask you. So, Sirianni, knowing he's on

620
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: the hot seat, knowing that his sort of demeanor has

621
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: been dubbed juvenile, comes in, shaves his head at one point,

622
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: yelling at fans like it to me, it's just bro,

623
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: you're the head football coach. Of the Philadelphia Eagles. Like

624
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: he just feels like he doesn't have a self awareness.

625
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: You know.

626
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: It's almost like Baker's first couple of years in the league.

627
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: You knew he was talented, but you're like, dude, you're

628
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: starting fires at the podium on Wednesday.

629
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: Just don't.

630
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: You don't have to win and be the snarkiest, funniest

631
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: guy at the podium. Just let other people win. And

632
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: now Baker's matured. But I feel like Nick sometimes doesn't

633
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: get it.

634
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: Yeah to me, I don't know if there's a wager

635
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: you can place with our friends at DraftKings, but I

636
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: think he's a borderline lock to not be the head

637
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: coach for the Eagles in twenty twenty five. Yeah, and

638
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: that's not making a prediction. They're missing the playoffs and

639
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: making the playoffs, Like he will not be the coach

640
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 2: next year. Like this thing him screaming at the fans

641
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: is just in what world? In a game that you

642
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: barely just beat what many consider as one of the

643
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: worst transactions not in football, in like sports history with

644
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson, the quarterback who was pretty bad today again,

645
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: and you are struggling to win the game and you're

646
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: screaming at the fans. He'd be one thing if he

647
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: was kicking ass and they're still chanting fire, Sirianni, I

648
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: would get it. It's like, bro, let's you know, cooler

649
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: jets here now. I saw, Jalen Hurt said after the game.

650
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: Is one thing that the players talk to Nick about

651
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: during the bye week was to get back to his

652
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: crazy ways, get back to his roots of being emotional

653
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: he had been to. I don't know stoic, I guess

654
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: for their taste over the beginning of this season, but

655
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: if that what you're trying to get back to, like,

656
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: what are we doing? I see under no scenario. I

657
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: don't This team's not win the Super Bowl, So I

658
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 2: just don't see how serious Sirianni knows what's going on.

659
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: Like the head shave, what did that symbolize to you?

660
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: A guy searching a guy? Maybe you got a bad haircut.

661
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: I remember remember when Robert Sala came in with the

662
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: black beard, like darkened his beard, and it's just like, bro,

663
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: you're you're on camera like twelve minutes on national TV

664
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: in an NFL game. Every week, it did feel like

665
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: you were trying to make some sort of statement and

666
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: I I mean, I think we know now that sala

667
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: and Adam Schefter reported that he was he was affected

668
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: by the noise. I think Sirianni's affected. I think Philadelphia

669
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: is probably the loudest NFL city because talk radio is

670
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: so powerful in that city. In the media, there's multiple newspapers.

671
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: It's a it's a kind of a working class for

672
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: a big sophisticated city. It's it's you know it, it's loud,

673
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: and if your Andy Reid could shut it out. But

674
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: I think it affected. I think it affects Sirianni.

675
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I can't speak for every city in America,

676
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: but there can't be many places where every single person

677
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: in the city, I mean, there's just nothing more important.

678
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 2: And it's a die hard football or I mean just

679
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: sports town where you could find the richest guy the

680
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: nicest neighborhood, and you could find the poorest guy in

681
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: the street and they'd all have a take on the Eagles.

682
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: And that Andy's just had a little thicker skin, obviously

683
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 2: had early success. He's just I mean, a much higher

684
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: level guy. But I think when you're really emotional like that,

685
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: in an emotional place, it's probably not a good combination,

686
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 2: and let's face it, like some guys with more experience

687
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: and who have been around the block, like Rabeld be

688
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: more equipped to handle it. Obviously, Belichick, you know these guys.

689
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: This is a guy six seven years ago was a

690
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: position coach no one had ever heard of, and all

691
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you get thrust into the limelight with

692
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 2: a team that then is highly compensated, a lot of

693
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: star power. It's not like this is the little engine

694
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: that could you look around, high draft picks on defense everywhere,

695
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 2: highly paid wide out, star running back, fifty million dollars, quarterback,

696
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: a GM that everyone knows his name, wheeler and dealer,

697
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: an owner that is giving you an unlimited check book.

698
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: I thought today when it was like thirteen ten and

699
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,959
Speaker 2: the Browns were driving and I think it was headed

700
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 2: to the fourth quarter, I'm like, he might have fifteen

701
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: minutes left for this job if he loses this game

702
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: to the Browns and to Shaun Watson and given their

703
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 2: touchdown came off a block field goal touchdown, I could

704
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: see Jeffrey Lurie. I don't know exactly who he would elevate, Fangio, Kellen,

705
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: but I could just see him like this is over

706
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: and Nick Sirianni honestly could have been fired before Doug

707
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 2: Peterson if he had lost that. That was an enormous

708
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 2: win just to keep the guy's career going.

709
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: Colin time for this week's player I thought might give

710
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: almost almost anything to redo his game, brought to you

711
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: by Uber Eat, Spencer Ratler two fourth quarter picks in

712
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: his pro debut. Started off strong, but the Bucks blew

713
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: the game open in the fourth. Tampa scored touchdowns after

714
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: both Rattler picks. That was this week's Uber Eats Player

715
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: of the Week. Get almost almost anything for game day

716
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: delivered with Uber Eats. I love them, the official on

717
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: demand delivery partner of the NFL Order now Uber Eats Okay,

718
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: Green Bay thirty four, Arizona thirteen. So this was my

719
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: favorite pick of the week. On my Blazing five, I

720
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: went three to oh today, I have the Jets plus

721
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: the points tomorrow, so it was a good day. So

722
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: the reason I took Green Bay because Arizona beat San

723
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: Francisco and you think, oh, okay, and they're getting five points.

724
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: I don't trust them. I think Kyler Murray and I

725
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: have this sourced from a player, a coach and an

726
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: executive is not terribly mature nor totally accountable. He's just

727
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: absolutely gifted and off a win over the Niners, they

728
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: didn't look like then thirteen penalties, I think they've trailed

729
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: at one point like twenty four to three or time.

730
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: I mean, they were getting shell They didn't look like

731
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: they prepared. And this is why I bet against them,

732
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: is that is Green Bay in their division is looking

733
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: around thinking, hey, Jordan, we got to get this thing rolling.

734
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: Our division's good. Arizona beat San Francisco. It looked like

735
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: they took the week off of practice. And I think

736
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: a lot of it's Kyler Murray who have defended but

737
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: John when they only had twenty three minutes time of possession.

738
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: Now Harrison got hurt, they had Connor, they got beat up.

739
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: But that's the NFL. But I think there is something

740
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: I really believe, and I've heard this again from a

741
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: star player, an executive, and a coach in that organization.

742
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: Kingsbury ready to go to Colt McCoy. I was told

743
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: that by somebody around his staff, like he was done

744
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: with it. He played nice to the media, he was

745
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: done with it. I know they moved off. Josh Rosen

746
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: and I know they're paying Kyder Murray. I don't know

747
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: if you can ever win big time with him. We'll

748
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: get to Green Bay in a second. But they just

749
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: they have too much talent to just not even compete

750
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: for the first half.

751
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, I think if you remove a couple

752
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: of those Bruce Arians, Todd Bowles, years with Carson Palmer,

753
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: this organization, most of my life has just kind of

754
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: been the same, and this team specifically has more talent

755
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: than some of the crappy Cardinal teams over the decades.

756
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 2: But when I saw the weather and those guys bundled up,

757
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, my cousin was on the Fresno

758
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: State team that almost beat USC and the height of

759
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 2: their dynasty in two thousand and five, and they took

760
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: went toe to toe with them, and they were fifteenth

761
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 2: in the country. And after that loss, they didn't even

762
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 2: move in the rankings. The next week they played Reno

763
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: and this was like, you know, early November. It was

764
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 2: freezing cold. He said. The moment two guys, our first

765
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 2: two guys stepped off the plane and it was freezing cold.

766
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: They freaked out. He's like, oh, we knew he had

767
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: no chance and they got blown out and because coming

768
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 2: from you know, Fresno was like eighty five ninety degrees

769
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: and when I saw that weather when I got off

770
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 2: the plane today, it was pretty hot. Starts sweating pretty quickly,

771
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: and that that's a bad like this is not going

772
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: to be a team that travels well because he's a

773
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: roller coaster player to begin with. A lot of his plays,

774
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: like Jalen, come from kind of freelancing, like let's face it,

775
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 2: and they have shown this year, like when they play

776
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 2: well and show a little fight and he gets their

777
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: healthy freelancing. Yeah, he can make plays. They've also got

778
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: boat raced a couple times and look completely lifeless. And

779
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 2: today I would say, about ten minutes into that game,

780
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: probably if you didn't want to wash Jordan Love and

781
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: weren't a Packer fan, the game was irrelevant because they

782
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 2: were going to toy with them. It was a joke.

783
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, it starts with it always starts with your player,

784
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 2: how much he cares, how hard he wants it. I

785
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: do think it's just a very hard player to play

786
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 2: with the way he plays. I mean a lot of

787
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: his great highlights when you think about it over the

788
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 2: years are kind of freelance plays not necessarily like three

789
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: step drop great hitch hit the out round Like, that's

790
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: not really his style.

791
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: Green Bay is obviously good. The question with me because

792
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 1: I think Jordan loves a little more far than Aaron Rodgers.

793
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: He had a ball up the sideline today. He just

794
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: threw a balloon, a hot air balloon up. Dobbs made

795
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: the catch, kind of clever, got into the end zone.

796
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not a great He's just.

797
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 4: Clips fifteen times this season, and he's missed a couple

798
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 4: of games, so he lets it grip and I like

799
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,479
Speaker 4: that about him. And that was the thing on Utah State.

800
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 4: People are like, he he can, He's gonna make some

801
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 4: bad throws. But Mahomes has a crappy pick every weekend.

802
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 4: So I kind of live with it if you have

803
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 4: some it, and I think Jordan's got a lot of it.

804
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 4: There are so many mouse to feed. I mean they

805
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 4: have like two or three tight ends. I like, there's

806
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 4: a lot of mouse to feed. And there are a

807
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 4: lot of young guys and none of them have been

808
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 4: paid yet. And there was a rumor that Romeo Dobbs

809
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 4: was unhappy like last week of the week before and

810
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 4: Green Bay is like a low ego franchise, but generally

811
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 4: there's a pecking.

812
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: Order to an organization. Well, outside of Jordan, nobody's getting

813
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: paid offensively, And I'm just I'm interested to I know

814
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: they're talented. Are they a super Bowl team? Do they

815
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: have the maturity to go on the road? What do

816
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: you make of them?

817
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: I think they definitely have the talent to be a

818
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: super Bowl contender, yes, and to make a run in

819
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: the NFC. And it all comes down to, like they

820
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: beat the Niners last year, if Jordan doesn't get kind

821
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 2: of squirrely down the stretch of that game, So to me,

822
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 2: can he get on a streak for a three game

823
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: stretch like Joe Flacco or Eli Manning Because he's probably

824
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: more talented than those guys I just listed, right, just

825
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: in terms of mobility, arm strength, like you said he's got,

826
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: He's more far than Rogers. The problem when you play

827
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 2: like that, some of Farv's most iconic moments actually went

828
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: against them, right, crazy picks in playoff games because they're

829
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 2: in the playoffs right and in depending Once all these

830
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: teams start playing each other like they could still win

831
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 2: the division, there's now that Hutchinson's injured. We'll see as

832
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: Minnesota plays better teams what it looks like. And I'm

833
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: not trying to diminish anything they've done, but you know,

834
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: we'll see how long, Like are they just gonna they're

835
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 2: gonna roll the fifteen wins? Or what happens when they

836
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 2: have a two game losing streak? You know, the Packers.

837
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: These guys now have been through a lot together, like

838
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: the young nucleus, So I like him. I mean you

839
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: watch him on days like today, It's like, damn bit.

840
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 2: They could score on anybody because they got wide receivers

841
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: for days. And like you said, that quarterback. Their coach

842
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 2: is really good, like Lafleurs, really established himself. He doesn't

843
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: get the credit as McVeigh or Kyle, even Kevin O'Connell.

844
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: But never forget he's he's wont some playoff games. I

845
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: know he hasn't been to the super Bowl, but him

846
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: and Aaron, he resurrected Aaron's career and then took Jordan

847
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: Love from last year crappy first half the GM saying yeah,

848
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 2: we'll see how these last ten games go, right, basically

849
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: saying this guy's career as our starting quarterbacks in jeopardy

850
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 2: to then coaching them up down the stretch to now,

851
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 2: what's the record nowt four to two or three and two,

852
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: like yeah, these one games with the leak, willis like

853
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 2: he's got a lot of different pitches. I like the

854
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 2: Packers coming into the season still do to me. Usually

855
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 2: their success also comes down to, like does their defense

856
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: come to play in big games, because historically with the

857
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 2: Rogers teams it did not.

858
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: One year it did and they won the Super Bowl.

859
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 2: The other thing for them is now depends on seating,

860
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: like they might be better on the road, like go

861
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: to Dallas and a dome, go to Minnesota in a dome.

862
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 2: They have always this great passing game. And then when

863
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: they get the number one seed or two seed, they

864
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: play these home games and it's negative ten degrees. So

865
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: it's like, well, you're not gonna throw for three hundred

866
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: yards in this Yeah, where they you put them last

867
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: year in Dallas, It's like, okay, throw it away. They

868
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: don't mind going out to San Francisco in January when

869
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: it's you know, sixty seven degrees at kickoff. They're better

870
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: off playing. I know LA won't have a home game,

871
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: but a game like that actually playing Minnesota. I don't

872
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: think they would be uncomfortable playing at Minnesota in a

873
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: playoff game at all. They would much rather. I think

874
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 2: they're the way they're built offensively, they're better suited to

875
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: go to one of these warmer weather cities on the

876
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: road in a playoff game where if he gets hot,

877
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: they can easily score thirty points.

878
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: Okay, my controversial take of the week. LA Chargers beat

879
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: Denver twenty three sixteen. Got off to a huge lead

880
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: and held on. So we did something this week. I

881
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 1: think it was Friday on the show and I was saying,

882
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: you know, would I take well, no, so I take

883
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: pretty almost over. I'm not taking him over Lamar Mahalmes

884
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: or Allen, but there's a lot of guys in there,

885
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: like Kayleb Williams. I said, I think Caleb's more talented

886
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: or Jayden Daniels. I think Jayden's more talented, and nobody

887
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: really had a reaction until I said bow Nicks, I

888
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: would take him over. Brought purty. So before we get

889
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: to the Chargers Denver game. One of the things I

890
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: think a lot about is there is a huge difference

891
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: the Niner quarterback position and Brock clearly had a lot

892
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: of college starts. Like bow Nicks, he throws an accurate ball.

893
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: They both move way better than most people give him

894
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: credit for. I mean, bo today had a run. He

895
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: was like racing past a like an edge linebacker and

896
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: for a first down. I mean it was just sprinting.

897
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: And brock Purty moves better than people think. But I

898
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: think it's it's they're two different asks in this league,

899
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: and the ask for brock Purty was don't screw it up.

900
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: We've got an all star team and the best scheme

901
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: guy in the league. Are you good cognitively and can

902
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: you throw completions? That's also the Niners are one of

903
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: the better yards after the catch team, So there's a

904
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: lot of stuff where you get yardage and guys, you know.

905
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: In Denver it was viewed as a five and a

906
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: half win roster. In Vegas, one receiver, I like a

907
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: lot Courtland something a lot Mims is unproven. Franklin's a

908
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: rook tight ends are okay, left tackles good, right side

909
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: of the old lines wonky, and so the ask in

910
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: a division with herbon Andy Reid is substantially harder. Like today,

911
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: he had a terrible first half, they were missing two

912
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: offensive line starters. Second halfy is pretty good, although the

913
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: coverage changes. I didn't think it was a hot take.

914
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: I think it's very close. I like Bownicks more than

915
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: brock Purty. One guy's a first round pick, one guy's

916
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: a seventh, but I can't hold that against him. Where

917
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: to you what is this seat? Because we don't think

918
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: these guys are mahomes. I'm guessing you think bow Nicks

919
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: has a lower ceiling than brock Purty.

920
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 2: That's my guess. I think that's I think that takes

921
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: pretty insane the information we have right now, because I

922
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 2: think the way you describe brock Purty is two years

923
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 2: ago when he gets inserted after Trey Lance goes down

924
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: and Jimmy Garoppolo goes down. But if you watch the

925
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 2: way he played last year, and if you watch the

926
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 2: way he's playing right now, he has been pretty excellent

927
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 2: this season. Yeah, like played at a really like I

928
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: mean ran circles around Seattle the other night. Yeah. And

929
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: I think sometimes we talked about Deebo Samuel the wide receiver,

930
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 2: like he's Jerry Rice or Randy Moss. I mean, you

931
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 2: can't really run routes. He's not exactly mister Marvin Harrison

932
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: senior out there. Kittle's banged up a lot. Obviously a

933
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 2: good player, but a lot of teams have good tight ends.

934
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 2: Like that's what's there's a ton of tight ends all

935
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 2: over the NFL. How many guys right now are playing

936
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: better than Bruck Perdy because listen, we could say, oh,

937
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 2: Caleb one day, let's see Caleb win one big game.

938
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: Brock's been in big game from the moment he started

939
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: and the last two years, starting last year and then

940
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: this year, every game really matters. And if you lose

941
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 2: his disaster and Super Bowl or bust, like I don't

942
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 2: know bo Nicks who again, I like that first the

943
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: game was over at halftime because of how shitty he was,

944
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: so unless like Jim Harball was gonna die at halftime

945
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 2: for whatever illness he had, Like they were not winning

946
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: that game.

947
00:46:58,560 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: But couldn't argue this.

948
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 2: Though, But you're talking physical skill. You're talking physical skills.

949
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, eventually you got to play right. So a

950
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 2: lot of these guys in all positions have great physical

951
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 2: skills and then you play football, and like Drew Brees

952
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 2: didn't have the physical skills even remove like the Rogers

953
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: and the Brady of hundreds of guys that were drafted,

954
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: maybe not one hundred, I don't know how many that

955
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: would it. Let's say fifty guys who were drafted over

956
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: a decade period that should have ran circles around him

957
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: and couldn't hold his jock because eventually just got to

958
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: play quarterback.

959
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: Well, but so it's a circumstance league. So Mahomes is

960
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: not having a good year. He's like nineteenth on quarterback

961
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 1: grades with Andy Reid, Why weapon circumstances? Rashie, Rice Hurt,

962
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: Josh Allen just had a game. It's as worst as

963
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 1: a pro why circumstances? Running backs? Hurt didn't have a

964
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: slut guy. So even the greatest guys in the league

965
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: come down a lot when they don't have much to

966
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: work with. Dak Prescott has one receiver that's been bad

967
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: a lot this year. Now that's not Mahomes around. But

968
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: my point is everybody, even the greatest in the world.

969
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, Lamar's having a great year.

970
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 1: Well god, I mean, Zay Flowers is one of three

971
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: guys I trust, Mark Andrew brus I mean, they have

972
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: a great staff.

973
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: I mean Baltimore, Barrick Henry's been a home run for them.

974
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean so long Lamar's having his best year.

975
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: So my take is people are forgetting Denver was a

976
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: five win team in Vegas. Vegas only cares about So

977
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: if you take Courtland Sutton out, I'd argue they don't

978
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: have a very good offensive player in the roster.

979
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think when you add context to everything you're saying,

980
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: I think when people see that, they go if I

981
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: would have put Bo Nicks on the twenty two forty

982
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: nine ers as a rookie, are they playing Billy in

983
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: the super Bowl or I mean in the NFC Championshiphip?

984
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 2: And that's what Brock was uniquely suited. Now, he got

985
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: a weird situation where he got to sit all out

986
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: of the year and then come in right at the

987
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: peak when the team was coming. But I do think

988
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 2: if you just look at the last two years when

989
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: he's been the full time star, like if I'm Kyle

990
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: and John, they are like five quarterbacks. The thing with

991
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: Mahomes or Alan, even Lamar, even though Lamar basically plays

992
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 2: well every game. Now it's like I don't care what

993
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 2: I can watch Patrick Mahomes have a shitty half, it

994
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: means nothing to me. It's like watching Steph Curry go

995
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 2: over ten. You know, Josh Allen have some bad games,

996
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,720
Speaker 2: Like what are we arguing at this point? Like he's

997
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 2: those guys are elite, so obviously, Alan, Mahomes and Lamar

998
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: no brainers to me. If you can watch Herbert today

999
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: went healthy with Jim Harbaugh and go that's ain't one

1000
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 2: of the best players in the league. Like we're not

1001
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 2: on the same wavelength. I'm not even gonna speak with

1002
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: you because it's a waste of time. Like that's an

1003
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 2: elite player. And I would trade Brock Purty for that guy,

1004
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 2: and so would Kyle and John. I would throw CJ.

1005
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 2: Stroud in there, who's I think pretty special and plays

1006
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 2: in that offense and looks awesome. I don't think and

1007
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 2: I don't think you could argue anyone else like Caleb.

1008
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 2: Like all these guys, none of them have played in

1009
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: the big game. I've seen Brock and I've seen Dak

1010
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 2: in big games when they both had really good teams

1011
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: and one guy not screw and the other guy screwed up,

1012
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: like I've seen it with Jared Goff too. Again, these

1013
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: are good players, but I'm giving him the nod over

1014
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: these guys, and that's kind of the crew. So, yeah,

1015
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 2: is brock Purty ever going to be the best quarterback

1016
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 2: in the league? But is he better than most guys

1017
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 2: like consistently from six to seven to like twelve, which

1018
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 2: I think we all kind of speak the range he's

1019
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: in and that the answer is yes. And is he

1020
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: a big no? Is he a strong no? But can

1021
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 2: he play football? Can he play football? And I think

1022
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 2: the answer is a resounding yes for a guy that

1023
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 2: is very difficult to play for. Right, It's not easy

1024
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 2: to like, it's hard to play for Andy Reid like it.

1025
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 2: It is hard to play for Bill Watsh. That's the

1026
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: other thing. I think we act like it's easy to

1027
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 2: play for these guys the way Tom, like Tom would

1028
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: be like, look, this was a difficult environment. This is not.

1029
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 2: That's why so many guys fail because cognitively and mentally

1030
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: they just get wiped out. They can't handle it. And

1031
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: this guy. The other thing that I why I have

1032
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 2: so much I say confidence speaking about him and defending

1033
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 2: him in arguments like this is obviously as a teammate,

1034
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna support guys, but I think there's a different level,

1035
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 2: like Trent Williams, who's a first bout Hall of Famer,

1036
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 2: and Fred Warner, who was his number one supporter of

1037
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 2: the moment he started because he saw him every Dan

1038
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: Scout team. They have been. The way they've spoke about

1039
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 2: him from day one is like, I don't think these

1040
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 2: guys just throw that out. I'm removing Kittle, who could

1041
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: just say whatever, some of these other guys. I'm just

1042
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 2: talking about those two guys first bout Hall of Famers then,

1043
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 2: aren't mister you know, give you a bunch of compliments.

1044
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 2: Twenty four to seven got a little Belichick in the

1045
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 2: way they speak about others. You really got to impress them.

1046
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: And it's like and then the way Kyle talks about him,

1047
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: because let's face it, like Jimmy Garoppolo when he was

1048
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: good was like a GoF Dak lights kind of yeah.

1049
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 2: And Brock Perdy on his worst day is that like

1050
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 2: he's so much to me, he's better player than Dak,

1051
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: And I like, I think Dak's fine. He's a better

1052
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 2: player than going.

1053
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: He throws a better ball too. Dank's not a good thrower.

1054
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: Deck's never been an elite thrower ever that, but they

1055
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: are also like arguments like the Bears.

1056
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 2: Like obviously the Niners, the Bears called them Caleb for Brock,

1057
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 2: they would say no, But the Bears would say no too,

1058
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 2: because they got this guy on the contract. Like there

1059
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: are all these variables and this is in the NBA,

1060
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: but there is no guarantee that we'll see when Caleb

1061
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 2: plays these big games at Green Bay. I've seen Brock

1062
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: play the teams or against the Lions, right, or against

1063
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 2: the Eagles like that. That's a different level than playing

1064
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 2: the Jags were about to fire their coach, right, that's all.

1065
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying these guys.

1066
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, I think Shanahan, deebo I, U Kittle,

1067
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: Trent Williams and that scheme. You literally can't play the

1068
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: position if you can't succeed to some level. That was

1069
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: Trey Lance. He just couldn't. He couldn't make throws. So

1070
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: it'll be fun to play out. I think Brock Pertty

1071
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: is a better quarterback probably today. Bonnicks had a good

1072
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: second half. Game was over. It was very Chargers like

1073
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: the Chargers, I mean, they were never in doubt losing

1074
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: that game. But God, did they mail it into the

1075
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: second half. It was a weird that Jim Harball left

1076
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: the field. He went to the locker room before the game.

1077
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: I couldn't.

1078
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: Did he think I can't? Also, he went to the

1079
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: blue tent. First coach I've ever seen go to the

1080
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 2: blue ten.

1081
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that. I don't want to speculate.

1082
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: That was odd. Okay, there's two college games. Because there's

1083
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: some games I'm not going to waste anybody's time on.

1084
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: So I want to talk Ohio State and Oregon. So

1085
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,959
Speaker 1: all summer long, John, I'm sure you heard me say

1086
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: Oregon's gonna win in Eugene. They'll meet later. Ohio State

1087
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,959
Speaker 1: will win. But Oregon's won now thirty five to thirty

1088
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: six games there. Even when they played poorly, they win.

1089
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: So Ohio State I predicted. I said they're going to

1090
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: go on the road, They're going to have a bunch

1091
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 1: of penalties. They had eight. I said clock management will

1092
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: be harder. Last play of the game it was. I said,

1093
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: it's very hard to ask a bunch of nineteen twenty

1094
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: year old kids to go and play in Eugene. I've

1095
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: sat in that stadium ten times. You can't. You and

1096
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 1: I could be eight feet apart. You can't hear yourself.

1097
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: It's sunken into the ground. It's not one hundred thousand,

1098
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: it's sixty and you can't. It's just insanely loud. So

1099
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: but I looked at Ohio State and my take was, well,

1100
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: both the receivers Smith and Amika like Buka, I think

1101
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: the last name is both were sensational. One had nine catches,

1102
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: one had ten. They ran the ball. Will Howard was

1103
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: twenty eight to thirty five. My tach was through a take. Yeah,

1104
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: I mean my take was. My only disappointment is Oregon

1105
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 1: averaged almost seven and a half yards of play Dylan Gabe,

1106
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: I mean they had five hundred yards of offense, So

1107
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: you know, and listen, I don't love that for Ohio

1108
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: State because I think they have so many elite athletes.

1109
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: I don't think Oregon should. I mean, Oregon got pushed

1110
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: around by different defenses this year, including Idaho. They're obviously

1111
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: a better team. But my takeaway on Ohio State is

1112
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 1: they're going apoplectic, and I'm like, no, that that's what

1113
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: it looks like when an eventual national champion plays in

1114
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 1: one of the five loudest stadiums against a team that's

1115
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: also capable of being in the Final Four. That's as

1116
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: good a loss as you can have.

1117
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I personally just hate Ohose State and this is

1118
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 2: one of those teams my whole life I've just kind

1119
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: of rooted against. You don't really have a reason. But

1120
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not the biggest Chip Kelly fan either,

1121
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 2: and I wanted to hop on the bandwagon about Ryan

1122
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 2: Day and his record, but that's that's not the game

1123
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 2: to do it, Grace, you lose to Vanderbilt, like, I

1124
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: gotta kind of eat it on anything, you know, if

1125
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 2: you're coming at me about Kaylin Duboor. But I do

1126
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 2: think it's fair though at the end of the game,

1127
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 2: he has a time out to run it out. You know.

1128
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of people that I think

1129
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 2: it's up for debate a little bit. Did they mean

1130
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 2: to have the twelve guys out there? Because you can

1131
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 2: throw a penalty without it. If it does happen, it

1132
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 2: works in your favor, but it also can work against

1133
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: you and give him some free yardage. But regardless, for

1134
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 2: the game to end like it did, him sliding when

1135
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 2: they got a time out, their back pocket, and let's

1136
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 2: face it, that is they've had some worst losses. I

1137
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 2: would say the last couple of years to Harbaugh, much

1138
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 2: more embarrassing than that now. Honestly, when he kicks the

1139
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 2: field goal late in the game, I thought they're gonna

1140
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 2: win it Ohio State. I was like, Oh, this is

1141
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 2: gonna be a crowning achievement for Ryan Day. And so

1142
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 2: it's whoever had lost that game. I think he kind

1143
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 2: of hold your head up high the next day in

1144
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 2: the meeting with your squad at Newton. But there is like,

1145
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 2: there's got to be some truth to of all the

1146
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 2: guys that took over great programs. Urban handed it to them.

1147
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 2: And when Jim Harbust's saying, you're born on third base

1148
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 2: this program. I had gone to the Cotton Bowl yesterday

1149
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 2: and so we get to a bar after we watched

1150
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 2: the whole second half, and some people started sitting with us,

1151
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 2: a bunch of big ten people, and I said, you

1152
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: could make the argument for the last twenty I'm not

1153
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 2: talking about total national championships. I'm just talking about effort,

1154
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 2: the money behind it, the willingness, the consistently you could

1155
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 2: even go back to the nineties. This is the best

1156
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 2: college football program in America. Ohiuse State. Would you make

1157
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 2: that argument? I don't Saban accomplished more. I went, but

1158
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 2: I'm just talking about the whole as a program, subtract

1159
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 2: a coach.

1160
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was sitting. I went to dinner with Mike Godfrey,

1161
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: the college basketball coach at Bama North Carolina State, and

1162
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: he asked me Mount Rushmore of college football programs, and

1163
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: I said Bama, And the second one I said was

1164
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 1: Ohio State. Michigan was good last several years, but USC

1165
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: has been irrelevant for ten. Michigan doesn't have I mean,

1166
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: take out the Harbor Natty. They went a long time

1167
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: without it. And I said to them, Georgia went twenty

1168
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: years and didn't matter. I said, Obama. Well, I said Bama,

1169
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: Ohio State. I said, because of history, if you count

1170
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,919
Speaker 1: one hundred years, I take Notre Dame. You can't Notre

1171
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: Dame is college football. I said, There isn't a four.

1172
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: It depends on who's hot, LSU, Oklahoma. It could be Georgia,

1173
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: but there's no set in stone four. But I think

1174
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: it's Bama, Ohio State, and Notre Dame. And we can

1175
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: argue about it. I the thing is they've struggled against

1176
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: top ten teams. But the Clemson game was close, the

1177
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: Georgia game was close, the Michigan games they're in it,

1178
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: the Oregon game. Some of these games, to be honest,

1179
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: they've been either on the road or neutral fields. They

1180
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: haven't played a lot of these top ten teams at home.

1181
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,479
Speaker 2: I agree, But when you know, you know, a huge

1182
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 2: thing that all these coaches love to talk about is

1183
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 2: the process because it comes from Saban. The process. Well,

1184
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 2: he could talk about the process because his results were wins,

1185
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 2: so you wanted to know how he got there. Like

1186
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: I want to know how Jeff Bezos built his business.

1187
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear from the guy that went bankrupt, right,

1188
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 2: So it's like you ultimately judged on this sport, win

1189
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 2: or lose the game, and I think there is I

1190
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 2: think it is fair to go and when they get

1191
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 2: in these big spots, whether it's against Georgia, whoever, the

1192
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 2: teams end up being because I think it's fair to

1193
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 2: say after watching college football over the course of so far,

1194
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 2: whatever five six weeks, it's going to be pretty You know,

1195
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 2: Texas has sloaded, Ohio State's loaded, but they can lose

1196
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 2: like if Quinn yours up like they could lose in

1197
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 2: the Elite eight, so can Ohio State and you were

1198
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 2: you had faith Saban or Urban, We're gonna win the game.

1199
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 2: I think it is fair for any Ohio State fan

1200
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 2: to go. I don't know for a fact, I don't

1201
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 2: feel great about my gay closing this game out. Even

1202
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 2: though our team is it's it's not really arguable they

1203
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: them and Texas have the best rosters in the country.

1204
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: No, Texas and Ohio State are the best teams. I've seen.

1205
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: Bama's defense leaks oil, Georgia's offense is limited. I think

1206
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: Ohio State and Texas are like a notch above everybody.

1207
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: I think if the Buckeyes were on a neutral field

1208
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: it was like a bowl game, or if it was

1209
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: in Columbus, they would have won that game. I think

1210
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: I think Oregon. I think that home field is literally

1211
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: a touchdown. I think that. I mean, I really think,

1212
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: hey Will Howard despite the fact they couldn't hear, I mean,

1213
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: they ran the ball, their two receivers were good, Howard

1214
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: was accurate. I came out of that game and I'm like,

1215
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: if they meet again, Ohio State's winning that game and

1216
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: that's not a shot. Because I had said Oregon's gonna

1217
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: win this, It's gonna be close. I took the points

1218
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: money line. I was like, Oregon's gonna in this. I

1219
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: think I was kind of I mean, they had eight penalties.

1220
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: Couldn't hear a couple of times. I was kind of

1221
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: impressed with Ohio State.

1222
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 2: I really was.

1223
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: I was surprised. I mean, Oregon his recruit for if

1224
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: you don't follow Oregon football, they have the best NIL

1225
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: like west of the Mississippi. I mean they have all

1226
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: this still night money. Dude, they have nothing but four

1227
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: and five star guys. I mean they don't even they have.

1228
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: I don't think people understand how well they recruit and

1229
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: how well the NIL Like Oregon outside of Texas may

1230
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: have the best NIL in the country.

1231
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 2: Well I'll say this being at the Texas game. Obviously

1232
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 2: Oklahoma their offense is anemic, but they do have a

1233
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 2: good defense. I've been hard on this guy over the years,

1234
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 2: just because he didn't win that much. Sark as a

1235
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 2: play caller is elite, Like it was really impressive. I

1236
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 2: do hesitate, though, like his quarterback. I know he was

1237
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 2: coming off an injury. I'm sitting there live going, well,

1238
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: this ain't the number one pick, and those the game's

1239
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 2: going when I draft this guy in the first round.

1240
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 2: And Sark was really good at kind of scheming around him,

1241
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 2: throwing a lot of that, and he ran the ball.

1242
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 2: And Sark the one thing with Ryan Day loves the pass.

1243
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 2: Sark loves the pass too. Both of them probably have

1244
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 2: four NFL guys and two each on their team in

1245
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 2: their backfield, and that is an area if you are

1246
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 2: just willing, you see this with Shanahan, some of these

1247
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: co even Andy Reid has turned in like, just hand

1248
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 2: the ball off a lot and we'll just bludgeon you

1249
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 2: that way. And those guys are just a little more

1250
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 2: quick to let it fly. And I think that is

1251
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 2: the thing that makes me the most nervous with Day

1252
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 2: and Sark because they're teams I mean in Texas, the

1253
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 2: size of their defensive line, the speed of their dbs,

1254
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 2: the talent at wide receiver. I just think you were

1255
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 2: if you remove the Michigan game, who I think is

1256
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 2: fair to say Michigan is not that good, right, so

1257
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 2: you just go, can you win a national championship with

1258
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 2: this guy playing quarterback? He's just a little erratic, but

1259
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 2: their talents is is really really high and is to me,

1260
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 2: you put Oregon's talent on their level?

1261
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: No, I I thought they. I think Oregon is in

1262
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: the running for the third best team in the country.

1263
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,439
Speaker 1: I think it's Texas, Ohio State, and I think there's

1264
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: about four teams, Oregon, Georgia. They can play with anybody.

1265
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: And I thought Oregon played their butt off. But I

1266
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: came out of that game. I was like, if I

1267
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: was Oregon, I wouldn't want to play Ohio State again.

1268
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 1: I'd have no interest playing those guys again. Okay, USC

1269
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: and Penn State go to overtime. It's a wild shootout.

1270
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: Uh USC loses by a field goal. Lincoln Riley is

1271
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: now five and eight in his last thirteen games. So

1272
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: here's my overview, because I don't think he's terribly likable.

1273
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: The way he left Oklahoma. He gets snippy with the media.

1274
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: There's sort of an air of I'm above the phrase sometimes,

1275
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: which I don't think people love. But here I go

1276
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: back to this is that Miller Moss is a good

1277
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: college quarterback, but he doesn't move. He's he's pure pocket.

1278
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: That's not really Lincoln's I mean he went and got

1279
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: the UNLV guy out of the portal who moves well,

1280
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: which told me he did have some concerns about we're

1281
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 1: just kind of a one dimensional team. But here's what

1282
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: bothers me. He's been there three years in an era

1283
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: of the transfer portal, and USC's transfer portal money is

1284
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: now twelve thirteen million. They're not poppers. They got money.

1285
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: They have two playable offensive tackles in the program. Two.

1286
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: They have an immobile quarterback, the better athletes the backup.

1287
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: They have one Woody Marx, one legitimate Mississippi State kid

1288
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: running back. This is USC john even when they've had

1289
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: coaches that have missed. I mean Paul Hackett got Carson

1290
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 1: Palmer and Troy Palomano. The brand is huge. If you

1291
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: look at Southern California recruiting this year, they're just not

1292
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: getting any of the players. I mean they get They

1293
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: may have two of the top twelve players. There is

1294
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 1: a detached deel with Lincoln. He not that he doesn't

1295
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: love his job and love the kids, but he doesn't.

1296
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: He feels almost detached or above it. And it's like

1297
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: sometimes I like Saban to lose his shit when he

1298
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 1: was at Bama or Brian Kelly turn red as a

1299
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: plumb you know, they're so engaged. Lincoln sometimes can come

1300
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 1: off as sort of above it all, and I think

1301
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: it's a turn off the local high school coaches, and

1302
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: it just doesn't feel right to me.

1303
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 2: You know who. The way you just describe reminds me

1304
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 2: of the USC version that we saw with Lane Kifvin.

1305
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 2: He was kind of aloof and not connected to the program.

1306
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 2: It just felt like there was a disconnect between the two.

1307
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 2: And remember the Lane that we've seen Alabama. Obviously at

1308
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,919
Speaker 2: Old Miss feels a lot different as a human being,

1309
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 2: much more personable. I'm talking with the media, connecting with people.

1310
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 2: He just feels like a different guy. And when I

1311
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 2: was I got to the Oklahoma game really early, and

1312
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: I've adopted them as my program because I know people

1313
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,439
Speaker 2: within the program. So I was talking and they're like, heyah,

1314
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 2: we got so many injuries, and it's like, uh, they

1315
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 2: get hurt in practice. He's like, yeah, we practice around

1316
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 2: here now like an NFL team, And I said a

1317
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 2: lot different than with Lincoln, and they all laughed, like

1318
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 2: it's a lot more physical around here. Yes, yeah, yeah,

1319
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 2: And I think when you look at Kirby and Nick

1320
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 2: or defensive guys. So in Harbaugh essentially was a defensive

1321
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 2: guy too. It's inevitable their programs are going to be physical.

1322
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 2: Sark and and I think Ryan Day are good examples

1323
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 2: of they got a little Lincoln in them. They would

1324
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 2: much rather just score fifty throw the ball around. But

1325
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 2: I would say both those two guys are elite recruiters

1326
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 2: and it matters to them a lot. And the one

1327
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 2: thing watching Sark And I'm not trying to flip flop

1328
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 2: on them, but I was like, this guy really embraced

1329
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 2: I know they're good now, but you could just feel

1330
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 2: the vibe of him and his staff like he likes

1331
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 2: being there, the vibe of Texas, the fans, the program

1332
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 2: and listen, I'm not I don't like o ill State.

1333
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 2: Ryan Day takes a lot of pride in that program.

1334
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 2: You can tell it means a lot too. Oh my god,

1335
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 2: postgame interviews. So you use the other two top offensive

1336
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 2: guys right now in the country, Ryan Day and Sark

1337
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 2: the way you just describe Lincoln, Well, those guys, I mean,

1338
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 2: are feels like they're addicted to recruiting. And it's not

1339
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 2: like you know, they all got all these schools got money,

1340
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 2: and then their passion for their program feels pretty deep

1341
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 2: in their soul. This is why I was against the hire.

1342
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 2: Not because Lincoln didn't have a great resume in USC

1343
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 2: shouldn't want him. But there's a small Texas kid who

1344
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 2: kind of you know, got to cut his teeth at

1345
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 2: Texas Tech, working his way up and then got to

1346
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,439
Speaker 2: inherit Oklahoma, which is an all time great program, which

1347
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 2: just loaded with offensive weapons. You know, a couple of

1348
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 2: them fell into their lap. Baker Mayfield just walked on

1349
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,919
Speaker 2: the program. They didn't recruit him, he just he showed

1350
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 2: up on He was our starter for three years. Tyler

1351
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 2: was just out there, you know, they just got him

1352
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 2: in the recruiting portal. Jalen Hurtz was kicked out of Alabama.

1353
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 2: So it's like it was kind of some unique circumstances.

1354
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 2: And now you look at this. Caleb was a good

1355
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 2: Land and he kept a close relationship, but like, why

1356
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 2: doesn't he have like ten Calebs being at Oklahoma. There's

1357
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 2: like Trent Williams, all these guys like Bob Stoops. Over

1358
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 2: the years when I was at Fresno State, Pat Hill,

1359
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 2: Fresno State football meant more than his family beside his family.

1360
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 2: Nothing meant more to his life. When you watch Lincoln,

1361
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 2: it's like got a game one hundred and twenty million,

1362
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 2: like it was just a number he couldn't refuse.

1363
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: You know, john USC is one of not the best

1364
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 1: programs right now, but it's one of the five to

1365
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: eight biggest brands in college football. And Notre Dame, Bama, Georgia, Oklahoma,

1366
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Michigan, those guys. When Michigan was really down,

1367
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: they still had Taylor Lawan going in the first round.

1368
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: Now Brady Hoak, they didn't have the kind of It

1369
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: took Hardbob about three years to build a back up.

1370
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: But the first sign. You can look at a program

1371
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 1: and they may not win national championships and Ryan Day

1372
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 1: may lose a lot of close games to big rivals.

1373
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: They the first and second round are littered with Buckeyes.

1374
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: There's NFL players everywhere. Begins a receiver, fact and their

1375
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: receiving cord this year is better than about a third

1376
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,759
Speaker 1: of the NFL once. USC right now has a running

1377
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: back in Woody Marks that's probably a fifth round guy.

1378
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 1: They have a center Monheim play a second or a

1379
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 1: third round guy. He's probably a guard or a right

1380
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 1: tackle or a center in the NFL play a third

1381
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 1: round guy Kamari Ramsey's not eligible for the draft, but

1382
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: he's on the back end of the defense. He'll get

1383
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: He'll get drafted second or third round. He's a good player,

1384
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 1: best defensive player. That's about it. John thattt that that's

1385
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 1: about it. So three years in, with the transfer portal

1386
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 1: and a healthy nil bank, they just don't have enough

1387
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 1: good players.

1388
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, you can't, Like, I get it. Recruiting sucks,

1389
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 2: but they pay it a ten eleven million dollars to

1390
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 2: figure this out. And if you're going to do this

1391
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 2: for a profession, you don't have a choice. Practice, Like,

1392
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 2: do you think Sark wants to be on the phone

1393
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 2: as we're speaking right now on Sunday night with some

1394
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 2: junior in high school somewhere of course now? But he

1395
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 2: wants to win. And I do wonder if you look

1396
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 2: back at Oklahoma they were It's just it's a unique

1397
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,879
Speaker 2: spot for a small town Norman. They've been good for

1398
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 2: seventy years and it's kind of recruits itself, and they

1399
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,719
Speaker 2: were good when he took over. This thing was much

1400
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 2: more when Sark took over Texas. I gave my lot.

1401
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 2: It was terrible, and within a couple of years, I'm

1402
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 2: standing there on the sideline watching the size of his

1403
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 2: offense and defensive li whoa I've been If you look

1404
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 2: at Ohio State and I'd have to text like to

1405
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 2: get exact numbers. If I just had a guess, Texas

1406
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 2: has five guys, they'll be drafted the top forty. I'm

1407
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 2: not even counting the quarterback. I just counting skill guys

1408
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 2: running back, probably an offensive line and a defensive line,

1409
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 2: and a linebacker may have a dB. I'm just I'm

1410
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 2: not talking quarterback. So yeah, I mean I think USC.

1411
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 2: I think it's so far away. Obviously I didn't watch

1412
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 2: much of the Penn State game, but the Minnesota game,

1413
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 2: even the Michigan game, how hard they had to play

1414
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 2: to just keep that thing close against It was just

1415
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 2: I don't think you can fake toughness. And I think

1416
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 2: in life, you know, for most of our jobs, it's

1417
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 2: more mental toughness, right, It's having mental just the ability

1418
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 2: to battle through things, tough days, the good times. Just

1419
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,759
Speaker 2: that's most successful people. Colin Coward, you name any industry.

1420
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 2: In football, there's this balance of mental and physical toughness.

1421
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 2: And as a football coach like Saban can't fake being

1422
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 2: a tough guy. Like when I was around Pat Hill,

1423
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 2: He's He's just naturally a tough guy. Right, Kirby Smart

1424
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 2: is just a tough guy. And I think Sark and

1425
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 2: Ryan Day can get away with a little bit because

1426
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 2: of their programs and the economics behind it. But they

1427
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 2: recruit really hard, and they try really hard. And I

1428
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 2: just look at Lincoln and go, he just does he

1429
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 2: care that much about recruiting. James Franklin say this about him.

1430
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 2: I would imagine if you just got Link and James

1431
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 2: Franklin on a whiteboard in front of like the ten

1432
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 2: best football coaches in America and saying press them, Lincoln's

1433
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 2: gonna win. But if I said, get on the phone

1434
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 2: and build a freaking team to try to win a

1435
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 2: national championship, I'll take James Franklin's roster. Ten out of

1436
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 2: ten times.

1437
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 1: I've been in the room, I've been in a room

1438
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 1: with James Franklin. Once it was at ESPN. I went

1439
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 1: about eight years ago. James Franklin literally walked in huge smile,

1440
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 1: races over me, eye contact, big smile, and I remember

1441
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,719
Speaker 1: leaving that and I'm like I told something a buddy,

1442
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, wonder, he's such a great recruiter. I

1443
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: wanted to go play with him. In three seconds, eyes

1444
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 1: on me, Lock, big smile. You love college football. I

1445
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 1: love you for that. And I remember thinking, Oh, that's

1446
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 1: why he's got the pennant. This is why he's gonna

1447
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 1: be successful. Like in college, that doesn't matter in the pros, right,

1448
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 1: you select the players, but the high school players they

1449
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: select you. And so I don't feel that dynamic personality

1450
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 1: and it does matter. You could make an argument it's

1451
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 1: like Lincoln's a little Cliff Kingsbury in that I don't

1452
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 1: think Cliff liked recruiting, and I don't think he was

1453
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 1: great at the managing. And I think in the end

1454
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 1: Cliff's smart as hell, but not everybody is the right personality.

1455
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 1: And I listened five and eight in your last thirteen games.

1456
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: Don't want to waste too much time talking to USC,

1457
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 1: but it's listen. I can tell you this. They're not

1458
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 1: happy in the administration. Well there's hand a lot of

1459
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 1: money boosters are not happy. John Middlecoff Eagle Scout three

1460
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 1: and Out podcasts, This thing Cruise our fifteen flew by

1461
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 1: the day, Buddy Fight on.

1462
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 2: The volume.

1463
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening. If you've enjoyed the podcast,

1464
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: take a moment, rate and review