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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the drive. I'm Dale Lalli. He is

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Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson and uh well, this is typically the

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Speaker 1: either do fantasy football, yeah, where we do mock draft stuff,

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Speaker 1: or we do draft talk in general thought today with

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Speaker 1: the season, first of all, our two lineups that we

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Speaker 1: in the in the con they were highly productive.

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Speaker 2: But it must have been productive or yeah, right right,

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Speaker 2: just this has have to be weird weekends games to

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Speaker 1: Maybe next week, you know, for next week's games, we'll

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Speaker 1: just do some captain's chair stuff and yeah, see how

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Speaker 2: Actually sent you a mock draft today, Dane did a

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Speaker 2: two rounder from the Athletic Man.

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Speaker 1: You did do that, and I'm just thinking, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I knew there was I knew I saw a new

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Speaker 1: mock draft somewhere and it was for you. That was

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Speaker 1: where it was.

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Speaker 2: Danes, our buddy does great work for the Athletic joins

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Speaker 2: us year at the Yeah, the twentieth pick overall, by

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Speaker 2: the way, Yeah, people, I don't know if anyone everyone

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Speaker 2: knows that by now or not, but they are picking twenty.

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Speaker 1: There you go. So, looking here at Dame Brugler's two

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Speaker 1: round mock draft on the Athletic in first pick overall,

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Speaker 1: he has Chicago taking Caleb Williams USC, so he's going

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Speaker 1: to be he's in. If that were the case and

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Speaker 1: you're the Steelers, do you make it. I'm making a call.

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Speaker 1: Do you make a play for Justin Fields? Making a call? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So Mel hyper came out.

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Speaker 2: This is third hand information, and because they were talking

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Speaker 2: about the Falcons, he thinks that the Bears could get

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Speaker 2: the Falcons first round pick for Field with his eight,

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Speaker 2: which I think I don't see insanity.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know.

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Speaker 2: People tell Mel things and he's more connected than I am.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they would like to get that. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to cost you a first

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Speaker 2: be very interested in doing something along the lines of

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Speaker 1: Here here's why you're probably not getting the first. So

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Speaker 1: just so people understand how this money, it's money comes

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Speaker 1: out of the money, you're not getting Fields on the

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Speaker 1: cheap No, he's what he just finished his third year, Yes,

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Speaker 1: you're probably also at least trying to get him to

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Speaker 1: do some kind of new contract. But he's a hard

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Speaker 1: guy to do. But it's a hard way to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, is he going to take the Daniel Jones contract,

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Speaker 2: which is pretty pricey. You're not gonna give him thirty

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Speaker 1: Not going to give up a first round draft pick

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Speaker 2: Do that, exactly exactly, So he's not going to be

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Speaker 2: do it, do it? Okay, there's complications though, it's not

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Speaker 1: The thing to keeping up. Like, so if you're Chicago,

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Speaker 1: you're going to make that decision whether you're going to

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Speaker 2: Okay, but real quick, all these mocks should have a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, and see how it goes. And at that

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Speaker 2: The fact that he's not a Bear won't be because

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Speaker 1: The Bears take Caleb Williams. The Commanders at two take.

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Speaker 2: Drake May It's pretty chocky.

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Speaker 1: Then the Patriots take Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know who their GM is. Right, good point.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of people put in jayde Daniels already

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Speaker 2: I would consider if I were them, let's bring Jacoby

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Speaker 2: give him Marvin Harrison and maybe with that thirty fifth

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Speaker 2: and I'm Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 1: In this draft. At four, Arizona then takes Malik Neighbors.

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Speaker 1: At five, the Chargers take Rock Bowers. Interesting so the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just because I don't think those couple teams.

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Speaker 2: A lot of skill moves with four pass catchers in

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Speaker 1: Yeah. At seven, the Titans take Joe Alt.

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Speaker 1: Then at eight, the Falcons take Jad and Daniels. Well,

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Speaker 1: if the Falcons were the team that traded for Justin Fields,

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Speaker 1: would you consider trading up You're twenty now, mind.

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Speaker 2: You for Daniels for Daniels subject to change because I

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Speaker 2: haven't evaluated these players where I'm comfortable to say these

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Speaker 1: It's a Devin Bush like trade. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: My answer right now is yes, because people I trust

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Speaker 2: have a Daniels Pickett's battle, right, you know, and you

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Speaker 2: kind of hope Daniels wins it.

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Speaker 1: That way, you keep taking bites out of the apple

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you do. I got no problem ever

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love's working out pretty well after having Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: You know. At nine, the Bears take Dallas Turner, the

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Speaker 2: Makes sense, and at this point they had their quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. At ten, the Jets take Olufshanu, the offensive tackle

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but a lot of people do have alt over

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Speaker 1: To me, the next team that you look at. So

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Speaker 1: At thirteen, the Raiders another team that could go quarterback

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Speaker 2: I would never criticize them for taking Pennix here or whatever,

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Speaker 2: No, they would not be in that market but they're

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Speaker 1: At sixteen, Seattle takes Byron Murphy, the defensive tackle out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't even know who they're coaching. You know

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Does Dan Quinn still get that job.

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Speaker 1: At seventeen, the Jaguars take Brian Thomas Junior, the wide

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Speaker 1: At nineteen, the Rams take JJ McCarthy, the quarterback of Michigan. Wow,

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Speaker 1: At twenty three the Texans. This would be Cleveland. This

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Speaker 2: Your big rather hold you down, making you punch yourself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, credit yourself. Telisi Fluaga, the offensive lineman out of Oregon.

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Speaker 1: Dallas then takes Taylor Geiton, the offensive tackle out of Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Twenty eight, Kansas State City takes jerse On Newton,

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Speaker 1: And this one this one. At twenty nine, the Bills

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Speaker 1: Yeah. At thirty Detroit takes to Andre Sweat, the defensive

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Speaker 2: He's like the three and sixty pound Jordan Davis type. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. At thirty one, San Francisco takes Graham Barton, the

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Speaker 1: And at thirty two, the Raven stake Jordan Morgan, the

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Speaker 1: Panthers take of Donnie Mitchell, the wide receiver out of Texas,

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Speaker 1: You know. At thirty five, Arizona takes Chop Robinson. Okay,

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Speaker 2: The directions, Yeah, o line pass catcher.

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Speaker 1: Thirty nine, the Giants stake Braylan Trice, the edge rusher

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Speaker 2: Okay, these are the names the team be going in

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Speaker 1: At forty the Commanders this from Chicago, take Tyler Newman,

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Speaker 1: Okay. At forty one the Packers for safety. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: Forty three, the Falcons stake Jalen Polk wide receiver out

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Speaker 1: At forty four, the Raiders take Michael PENNOCKX junior cornerback

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Speaker 2: Forty five the O'Connors close to being O'Connell.

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Speaker 1: The Saints, this one from Denver. Take Dominic Pooney, offensive

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Speaker 2: Colts will always take traits. Yeah, they're always gonna take

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Speaker 1: They take a junior Colson linebacker out of Michigan.

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Speaker 2: But what I know about him, he sounds really appealing,

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Speaker 1: At fifty two of the Rams take Enis Rakestraw junior

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Speaker 2: I've seen first round great or people first round buzz

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Speaker 1: Fifty one the Eagles take Kaylen Bullock, the safety out

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Speaker 2: to talk about restructuring Watson's deal, which is just gonna

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Speaker 1: Fifty five the Dolphins stake Edger and Cooper linebacker at

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Speaker 2: That's first second off the ball guy yeah, real quick.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Flacco will be a Brown? He's old,

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Speaker 1: Fifty seven, Tampa Bay takes Xavier Worthy wide receiver out

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Speaker 1: Yeah. At fifty nine, the Texans take Malachai Corley wide

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Speaker 1: Jatavian Sanders, tight end out of Texas. Tall long speed guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: sixty one, the Bills take Cameron kinchin Is the safety

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Speaker 2: There are two dudes are up in old ye. With

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Speaker 2: all respect to Hamlin, he's not the answer or you

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Speaker 1: The Lions at sixty two take cornerback TJ. Tampa from

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Speaker 2: dude that's really intriguing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, and then he like the what twelve tackle off

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Speaker 2: the board.

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Speaker 1: And at sixty four, the Ravens take Darius Robinson, defensive

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Speaker 1: lineman out of Missouri.

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Speaker 2: Okay, does he a tackle or an end?

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Speaker 1: They he's sixty five.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so he'd be a big guy for Yeah. I

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Speaker 2: imagine if Matt a Bouquet replacement, but they figure out

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Speaker 2: spot for yeah.

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Speaker 1: So that's yeah, Yeah, that's the Dame Brugler uh mock

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Speaker 1: draft two rounds in.

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Speaker 2: I like those two players that he pige into the

451
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Speaker 2: Steelers as.

452
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Speaker 1: Would be two very much needed picks for the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wouldn't have any fight with them at all,

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Speaker 2: but I would like to dip into this receiver class.

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Speaker 1: Well, get some guys in the third round there.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there's plenty. We have a lot of time

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Speaker 2: to talk about all those things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all those big receivers in this year's draft, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah. Absolutely, we're going to get to another break.

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Speaker 1: or not, Matt he has. Matt Williams and Eric at

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Speaker 1: Home did a power ranking traditions tradition. Yeah, now, the

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Speaker 1: only power ranked the playoff teams, and I got to

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Speaker 1: take a little exception with them on this one. Well,

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Speaker 1: because at fourteen he has the Steelers, I would say

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Speaker 1: the Eagles would Eagles have to be last. They didn't

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Speaker 1: even show up for that game.

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Speaker 2: On my podcast today, I said things along the line

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Speaker 2: of I think they would have got beaten bad by

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Speaker 2: the Bear anybody the vit I mean, like anyone that's

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Speaker 2: not the Panthers or the bottom five, eight, maybe six

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Speaker 2: or seven.

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Speaker 1: They won one game in the last two months. Yeah, like,

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Speaker 1: how do you know the Steelers were better than them?

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Speaker 1: Better than them?

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Speaker 2: So I didn't hear it, but my co host mentioned

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Speaker 2: Kelsey retired to this all time great. I think he

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Speaker 2: may be the best center ever, one of the best

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Speaker 2: editor ever.

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Speaker 1: Not the best ever, but I get.

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Speaker 2: Some blowback around here, but definitely the best of men.

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Speaker 2: I would take Dawson Overwebby too.

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Speaker 1: By the way, So Jim Mooney Dawson is the greatest

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Speaker 1: center to ever played.

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Speaker 2: That's my vote too. But in the last twenty years,

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Speaker 2: he's got a good case.

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: I guess he was on a podcast with his brother

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Speaker 2: and he had to stop the podcast because basically what

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Speaker 2: his brother. He said something along the lines of, well,

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Speaker 2: I know, my last game's coming up here in Tampa.

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Speaker 2: Like knew they were going to lose, you know, like

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Speaker 2: everyone went in there just like we got no chance

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Speaker 2: we're gonna gea.

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Speaker 1: You know, they had given up. They played, they had

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Speaker 1: given up the ghosts. They got smoked.

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Speaker 2: They got smoked, and their coordinators look terrible. Their back

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Speaker 2: seven looks terrible. They're definitely the worst team to playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't know how you can have them.

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Speaker 2: I get the records good, but it's two months of miserables.

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Speaker 1: It's one game better than what the Steelers finished.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I guess you're sure because they won one

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Speaker 2: time in the last the last seven weeks. They have

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Speaker 2: big issues, huge yeah, huge.

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Speaker 1: So, but he's got the Steelers at fourteen. Okay, he's

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Speaker 1: got the Eagles at thirteen. I'm sorry. The Steelers are

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Speaker 1: better team right now than the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: A lot of teams that aren't playing over the weekend

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Speaker 2: are two and I'd love to see the Steelers lineup

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Speaker 2: against the Bucks. I don't take chances on that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, at twelve down four spots, he

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Speaker 1: has the Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: I get that, And I have some mixed feelings because

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Speaker 2: I think anyone that listens to any of my outlets,

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Speaker 2: I'm not build big on how they're built.

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Speaker 1: I'm really not.

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Speaker 2: I don't think two was worth the huge contract that

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Speaker 2: he's gonna they're gonna have to pay him.

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Speaker 1: But I also.

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Speaker 2: Think there is some recency biased in that. Okay, when

529
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Speaker 2: it was minus thirty in Kansas City, he didn't play well,

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Speaker 2: and he didn't because if you look at Drew Brees,

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Speaker 2: he's two and five on the road in the playoffs.

532
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Speaker 2: Peyton Manning's three and five on the road in the playoffs.

533
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Speaker 2: He's not half the player that either one of those

534
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Speaker 2: guys are. And I would look for another quarterback, but

535
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Speaker 2: maybe that wasn't the best circumstances to judge him alone.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they need home field, just like Breeze and Manning.

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Speaker 1: Did you know what I mean? It's all all those

538
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Speaker 1: points they scored. It's no coincidence were early in the season.

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Speaker 2: They're an early season team. Yeah, no doubt. But I

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Speaker 2: think they lost yesterday because they lost Week eighteen. Yeah

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Speaker 2: I am I saying they would have won at home,

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Speaker 2: but they had no chance.

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Speaker 1: But they lost in Week eighteen at home to a

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Speaker 1: good team, to a good team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, they have issues, they're definitely.

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Speaker 1: And they lost both games this year to Buffalo. They're

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Speaker 1: still chasing the Bills.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're still chasing the Bills without question, and you

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Speaker 2: textually during the game, I couldn't agree. More like he

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Speaker 2: can't drive the ball in that situation or drop back

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Speaker 2: passing game or traditional stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, at eleven down five spots, Cleveland not pretty,

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Speaker 1: not pretty at all. He could make Miles Garrett. It's

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Speaker 1: not an argument that to say that they they got

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Speaker 1: beat worse than the Steelers did. Yeah, by a lesser team.

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Speaker 2: I would say, besides the Eagles, that was the most

557
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Speaker 2: embarrassing performance of the week. They killed, they got crushed.

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Speaker 2: I mean picked six is left and right, Flacco turned

559
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Speaker 2: into a pumpkin. Where's the defense? Where's Miles Garrett?

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Speaker 1: You know, no refound they really I don't even know

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Speaker 1: that they were ever really even in that game.

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't feel like they were from the start. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean usually I didn't think the Steelers were. But

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Speaker 2: then they got back in.

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Speaker 1: They got but they fought and got back into it. Right,

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Speaker 1: Cleveland never got back into it cooked Yeah in perfect

567
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Speaker 1: weather conditions. Oh yeah, yeah, like they were just bad

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Speaker 1: and Buffalo's better than Houston.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I would have Cleveland quite low.

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Speaker 1: At ten, the Rams holding steady.

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Speaker 2: I think Rand's pretty good. I think the Rams beat

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Speaker 2: the Bucks if they play right now.

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Speaker 1: At nine up three spots as Tampa Bay, I know

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Speaker 1: they won. They played a garbage team, they did.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure they beat all the.

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Speaker 1: I've said it last week when the schedules came out,

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Speaker 1: when we knew who was going to get into the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: the two teams that I wanted to go against were

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay in Philly. They just happened to play each

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Speaker 1: other each other.

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Speaker 2: I'm not the hugest Dolphins fan, but we just had

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Speaker 2: a discussion about them. If the Dolphins were in Tampa

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Speaker 2: this week.

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Speaker 1: I would take the Dolphins the favor I would take

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Speaker 1: the Steelers over Tampa. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would. I

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Speaker 1: might take the Browns. I would certainly take the Rams

587
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Speaker 1: over the Rams.

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Speaker 2: The best team you've mentioned yet they lost barely to

589
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Speaker 2: a very good team.

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Speaker 1: The Browns. I would have to see where the game

591
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Speaker 1: is being played in. Their home road splits were real.

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Speaker 1: They were, they were they Their defense was not nearly

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Speaker 1: is ferocious on the road. For whatever defense is supposed

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Speaker 1: to be something that travels.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't add up Dallas's home road splits on offense

596
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Speaker 2: kind of adds up. Yeah, defenses is different. Defense is

597
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Speaker 2: supposed to travel and their defense doesn't travel at all. No,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't make any sense. I don't know how you

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Speaker 2: analyze that as a staff. I mean, maybe you have

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Speaker 2: some inside knowledge of things that happen different, but you

601
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Speaker 2: better get to the bottom.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's curious to put it, to

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Speaker 1: put it the least. Yeah, at eight down, five spots, Dallas.

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Speaker 2: I guess they started high, but that's a disappointing loss.

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Speaker 1: They got smoked. They got smoked bad. How do you

606
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Speaker 1: not have them lower? Rams are better than Dallas?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I can understand how to an overact

608
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Speaker 2: one game for any of these teams, but.

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Speaker 1: I can understand Okay, Tampa, you know whatever they won

610
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Speaker 1: Dallas was flat out bad. They were atrocious. They were atrocious.

611
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Speaker 2: They jumped all over them and never looked back. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure his job's safe.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't. I think we'll hear that in the

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Speaker 1: next few days. Something happens with that. At seven up,

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Speaker 1: six spots, green Bay, Okay, very good. Where's the thing though?

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Speaker 1: So if he does, he's again next week and Green

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Speaker 1: Bay goes to San Francisco, and where's he gonna Is

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Speaker 1: he gonna put Green Bay ahead of that or behind Dallas?

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Speaker 2: Now I could see them being behind like the Rams,

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Speaker 2: but the Rams are like four spots lower.

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Speaker 1: On Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is an imperfect science to say the

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Speaker 2: least postseason right, because they very well could get smoked

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Speaker 2: in San Franz next week. And that's fine. There's still

625
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: a very successful season. They have a quarterback. They should

626
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Speaker 2: be super excited there, great win. They're ahead of schedule,

627
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 2: just like you.

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Speaker 1: I haven't even seen the lines yet, but I imagine

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Speaker 1: they're a pretty hefty underdog and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Guessing nine somewhere in that range. Yeah, I mean San

631
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Speaker 2: Franz rested is scary.

632
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Speaker 1: At six spots at six up three spots as Houston. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I never really doubted Stroud, but I'm blown

635
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Speaker 2: away with them.

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Speaker 1: They dominated the Browns. They dominated the Browns. They really did.

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Speaker 2: We did that segment with the mock draft stuff. They

638
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Speaker 2: have some draft resources, but I forget who I was

639
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: listening to that. You know, any team builder will tell

640
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Speaker 2: you what do you really want? You want a quarterback?

641
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: You want pass catchers, you want a left tackle, you

642
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: want an edge rusher, and you want a corner. They

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Speaker 2: got them all, you know, like Stingley is a dude

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Speaker 2: in tunsul and like that's their best players.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good word. At five, two spots is Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: I'd have them below Buffalo, so I'm cool with that.

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00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. At four, upper spot is Detroit Bills versus Lions.

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Speaker 1: Where's the game at?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just mean who's better? Yeah, I'm fine with both.

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Speaker 1: At three, upper spot is Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I guess they're the best. They're the

652
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Speaker 2: scariest of the non buy teams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not perfect though, some major injuries in that

654
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Speaker 1: game though. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what their linebackers will look like next week,

656
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Speaker 2: and it's not good. I'm sure they're favored in their

657
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: building in Kansas City versus the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well she was. I mean Toron Johnson going out

659
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: in that game as well was huge.

660
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: He plays a ton for them.

661
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

662
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: Would they be a dog in Kansas City in your opinion?

663
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: Maybe by a point or two.

664
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Speaker 2: They might be a pick them. It might be a

665
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: pick the game. Yeah, but they're they'ld definitely be favored

666
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: in their building. Again, I haven't seen the Lions.

667
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: I know they're out there, forty nine ers or two,

668
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: and the Ravens are one.

669
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: Sure you're afraid of the Ravens. That's a hot team

670
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: with nothing to lose when you beat them a million

671
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: years ago.

672
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Speaker 1: I'll be honest. If I'm the Ravens, I feel better

673
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: about playing them though, than I do the Steelers again,

674
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: or even Browns. The Browns, those teams are familiar. You're

675
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: pretty happy got knocked out.

676
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're not thrilled. The Bills and Chiefs are

677
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: still out there, of course, right, you know, but.

678
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: You don't have to play them this week. The Browns

679
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: are Steelers one. You would have had to play one

680
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: of them, and then they had both come into the BIS,

681
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: Chiefs or whatever. They had both come into your building

682
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: and won this year.

683
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't think Houston will muck it up

684
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 2: in an AFC North type man.

685
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Speaker 1: No, No, but they might beat you. They might. What

686
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. What it would be interesting to see

687
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: is how the Texans have adjusted having played Baltimore earlier

688
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: this season. Yeah, at least you know them, you know,

689
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: you got you've got you know the physicality. You're not

690
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: going to be surprised by the physicality. I think the.

691
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Speaker 2: Previous meeting this by getting beat bad beat favors Houston,

692
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: way more favors Baltimore. Yeah, no doubt in my mind.

693
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: What was I gonna ask you? Niners have to be

694
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: pretty happy with the way things went.

695
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think so.

696
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, yeah, Detroit scary, but we should probably be

697
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: able to roll.

698
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. The Rams were probably the team that they didn't Yeah.

699
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, same similar situation. I don't want to make Veagh

700
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 2: come to town right at all?

701
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? Right? Uh so fourteen for the Steelers. Philadelphia should

702
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: definitely be lower. I'd probably have them. In fact, if

703
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: you did a whole league power rankings right now, Philly

704
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: might be twenty.

705
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. I definitely think they are. Any other playoff team

706
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: you put the Steelers ahead of, I would consider Cleveland.

707
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: It was pretty bad. That was a bad beating they took.

708
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Tampa won, but I'm not exactly.

709
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: Convinced they're good. No, I'm not either.

710
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: You know, like, if if these power ranks came out

711
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: last week, the Steelers are ahead of Tampa. Yeah, And

712
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: if Tampa went to Buffalo this week and the Steelers

713
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: hosted the Eagles, they might still be ahead of him.

714
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: So realistically, I mean, to me, they're still doing good stuff.

715
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: Steelers would probably be like twelve.

716
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, overall in the whole league. Yeah yeah, I'm

717
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: putting the Bears over there.

718
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: That's where That's where they're at, you know. That's that's

719
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: why I look at that game yesterday and how it

720
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: wins and the roster. To me, overall, the build was

721
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: good with what they did. Yeah, with the overall, like

722
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: the plan that they had going into the season, I

723
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: don't think was a faulty one. No.

724
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 2: I mean quarterbacks of different conversation, Like coming out of preseason,

725
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: we're like, oh, Pick, it's gonna be a top ten if.

726
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: You if I would have told you they would play

727
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: all three quarterbacks this year. Some of it by choice, yeah,

728
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: like the last two Yeah, the last two weeks have

729
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: been by choice that they've stuck with Rudolph, not by plan,

730
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: right and not because of injury. Like they could have

731
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: brought Picking back and played him the last two weeks

732
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: and they chose not to, and yet they'd still win

733
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: ten games.

734
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Speaker 2: Get in the playoffs and getting the playoffs, which doesn't sound.

735
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: I just think that you know, you built that offseason

736
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: roster depth the way that they I mean, I think

737
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: the spot Treks had a thing out today, either that

738
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: one of the you know, one of those, or maybe

739
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: over the cap that the Steelers can create forty million

740
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: dollars in cap space easily.

741
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: That's not even a structure. And TJ yeah, in which

742
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: they can easily do as well you told borrow from him. No,

743
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be hard at all for them. No, they're

744
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,239
Speaker 2: gonna have cap space right now. They're a little bit

745
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: over the cap, but that doesn't mean much. It doesn't

746
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: mean a lot right now.

747
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: Funny money, rightah.

748
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: One thing I looked at it's wanted to bring up

749
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: while we're here for these two hours, was I think

750
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: Broderick Jones and Washington have like officially hit the rookie wall,

751
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: and I wanted this double check like going. Broderick Jones

752
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: had the most snaps of any Steeler in the preseason

753
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: by design. They wanted to play him like crazy because

754
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 2: they knew he wasn't starting Week one. Then he becomes

755
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: a starter not long after, has to play eighteen games

756
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: plus three pretty rigorous preseason games in the heat in

757
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: a postseason game. Washington's been close to a starter, more

758
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: so than Porter or Benton or Jones, but he's not

759
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: a every down guy like Porter when he's out there.

760
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 2: But needless to say, they both have logged a lot

761
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: of snaps. And Washington wasn't even a full time player

762
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: at Georgia. Like this is double this. They played two

763
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 2: seasons compared to what they've used to, Like you need

764
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: to know these things, you know, like they're still out

765
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: there battling. And I don't think they were bad yesterday,

766
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: but I didn't think either was great. And they've played

767
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 2: double what they've played two Georgia seasons into one exactly

768
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: what they've done.

769
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, but I do think they get

770
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: into the grown men that are professionals. Having added those

771
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: players now and gotten that year's experience, they should be

772
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: better off for heading into next year. You might have

773
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: a shut down corner. Yeah, you might have a shutdown

774
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: corner if the league can keep offensive lineman from running

775
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: in and kicking in the back of the head.

776
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 2: And the Bills did a great job of putting Diggs

777
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: not even at the slot, but as the insidentaria.

778
00:34:58,719 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: Guy where Porter was.

779
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: They were they really wanted to digs not And even.

780
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: With that, I mean he had some catches, but it

781
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: wasn't for any big yards. He didn't. You know, it

782
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: was more of the tight ends. It hurt you and

783
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: you can do things to work against that. Go draft

784
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: the Cooper de John Yeah, yeah, I thinks of that nature.

785
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: I mean, it just it's pretty obvious though that they

786
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: respected the Steelers running game a ton and Porter a ton,

787
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: you know, those were they were things that.

788
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: They're trying to get stuff on digs away from him, absolutely,

789
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: and they didn't want to play that.

790
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you would think most team would be like, I'll

791
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: take my number one against the rookie corner and just

792
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: line up and play.

793
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that wasn't the case. No. Anyways, we're gonna get

794
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: to another break. Those were Eric at Holmes Power rankings

795
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: here through the first week of the playoffs. He is

796
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive

797
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: here on Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lalli.

798
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: He is the Matt Williamson and this is the Drive

799
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. Wrapping up the Steelers losing on

800
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: Monday in the AFC Wildcard. Is it just a wild card,

801
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: now is it just super wild card?

802
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: Super wild and say like crazy awesome wildcard again something.

803
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: So thirty one seventeen to the Buffalo Bill's game was

804
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: twenty one nothing early. The Steelers come back. The block,

805
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: the block field goal massive.

806
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 2: Breathed a lot of life into the team.

807
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: I've watched a bunch of different Yeah, I was there. Oh,

808
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: I see he saw the block. I thought at first

809
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: that Cam Hayward got it.

810
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 2: I had a hard time to decipher.

811
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: They gave it to Montravius Adams. Yeah, but it looked

812
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: like he just kicked the ball into the back of

813
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: one of his own linemen.

814
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was very unclear watching it live and

815
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: on and on, you know, broadcast, boy, it went flying the.

816
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: Other way, It went a long way to the other way,

817
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: late the other way, and her big hustles down and

818
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: gets on It.

819
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 2: Makes big play, huge play, huge, huge play.

820
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: Kind of changed the momentum of the game.

821
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like okay, now it was like the uh those

822
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 2: shock things they put on it, you know, like, whoa this,

823
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: this guy's not quite dead yet, you know.

824
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you know, so the Steelers then score

825
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: after that, and and I.

826
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 2: Know this is how football works. But from that point

827
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: to the end of the game, I thought was an

828
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 2: even game.

829
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I mean, but really, if you looked

830
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: at it from that point, from that point, I mean again,

831
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: it was it was twenty one nothing and the Steelers

832
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: outscored the Bills twenty one to ten. The rest of

833
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: the way.

834
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: I was almost seventeen seventeen.

835
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: Ten rested away, and you know, if you get a

836
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: couple of breaks here or there, you're right back into

837
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: this thing.

838
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, So that long drive hurt. Yeah, even

839
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,959
Speaker 2: had been a short drive. The clock was your enemy,

840
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: and they were driving on the field eating clock.

841
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: And I'm just watching, like Khalilshakir keeps his feet on

842
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: the make of his Patrick, who I thought played tremendous,

843
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: I can't get him on the ground and I kind

844
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: of whipped him down. Heir Shakir did it made a

845
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: phenomenal play to keep his feet. I mean, they're in

846
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: field goal range at that point. They're probably going to

847
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: get a field goal at the very least. But that

848
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: was a backbreaker. That That was that whole drive. Absolutely

849
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: between that, the defensive holding penal on Miles Jack, the

850
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: personal file penalty on Jack, I thought, I thought was

851
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: kind of chintzy a little.

852
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 2: I mean, nobody be complaining if it happened to the Steelers.

853
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: But the combination of the quote fake slide and then

854
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: the next time he scrambles you get one for hitting

855
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 2: him when he slides, Like, I know, we're going to

856
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 2: protect quarterbacks, especially superstar quarterbacks.

857
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: Well, what do you want me to do? Right? You

858
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

859
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 2: Like, there's just not a right answer.

860
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: So there was a play earlier in the game where

861
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: Rudolph slid and the defender goes flying over top of him.

862
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: He dove at him. Yeah, you know in this case,

863
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: Jack just happened to make you land on top of him.

864
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: But he didn't drive into him. It wasn't he didn't

865
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: hit him in the head.

866
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: No, I know what you're supposed to get called every time,

867
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: but what he's supposed to do?

868
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 1: The guy had run for a fifty two yard touchdown

869
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: through your secondary million.

870
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 2: Every other analyst in the world says things like, well,

871
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 2: what's the defender supposed to do? Frankly, I don't think

872
00:38:59,239 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: the NFL cares.

873
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: No, they don't, you know, that was the whole situation,

874
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: you know, and talking to Demante Kz when he came back. Yeah,

875
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: like he was asked, like, DeVante, what are you supposed

876
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: to do in that? He goes, I'm a defensive player.

877
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: What do you want me to do? Uh? He said?

878
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: But the league doesn't. They don't care about you. They

879
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: care about that. They don't care. They want to protect

880
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: the players, he said. I get it, yes, but then

881
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: you get the situation like you had in the Rams

882
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: game where Tyler Higby gets his knees taken out.

883
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: Because yeah, so I guess you watched that game. But

884
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: I thought the commentary was was very good there because

885
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: I forget who the color guy was, and it was

886
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: a little bit of side note. It was a little

887
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: crazy watching three days in a row of a four

888
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: o'clock game in an eight o'clock game, exact same commercials.

889
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 2: I kind of felt like the dude in clockwork orange

890
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: with my eyes like taped open for a while, was like,

891
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: am I ever leaving this chair? But anyway, whoever the

892
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 2: color guy was said, if you every pass catcher I've

893
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 2: ever talked to, if you ask them, would you rather

894
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 2: they took a shot to my head or my knees

895
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: going over the middle ninety nine point nine of them said, Hi, yeah,

896
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 2: which I get, you know, I mean, I have a

897
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 2: helen on. My knees aren't protected and nobody wants a concussion.

898
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: And I know concussions are an evil word in the NFL.

899
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 2: But I might miss a week, yeah I might, as

900
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 2: opposed to missing the season.

901
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: Or spending the entire offseason rehabbing.

902
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 2: And hoping you're still the same and don't get cut

903
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 2: by your team because of it. And they drafted a new

904
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: tight end or whatever.

905
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: You know. So, yeah, that was I was another problem, right,

906
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: that was an ugly one. I mean his knee bent sideways. Yeah, yeah,

907
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: I hate to see that very much. So, but yeah,

908
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: so I don't know what a defender is supposed to

909
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: do it that. But those are two huge plays in

910
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: that game. And I was sitting there on the on

911
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: the pass the when they threw the flag on the

912
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: ball on the on what they eventually called holding on

913
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: that the ball was it looked like Alan was throwing

914
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: the ball away. In fact, I'm I'm sitting in front

915
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: of the Bill's stats guys. They're behind there in the

916
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: row behind me, and they're talking about that's a throw.

917
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: They're saying, that's a throwaway. I thought he turned about

918
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: twenty yards out of bounds, muzzle close, and you called that.

919
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: And so there the officials are huddling, and I hear

920
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 1: the people.

921
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: Wasn't a DPI, But here you hear the people.

922
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: They're gonna hear. They're gonna call holding because they can't

923
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: call DPI. They're just waiting for some kind of confirmation

924
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: from New York on what the on what to do here.

925
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: This is where we've gotten in the NFL. See a

926
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: lot of these times in these huddles. Yes, they're waiting

927
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: to hear from New York about what they should call

928
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: instead of just making a call and sticking with it. See.

929
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: But I don't have a problem with that because I

930
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: think they get more calls.

931
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: Right.

932
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if they do have the process. There's

933
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: still blow a ton right, Like there's no one saying, hey,

934
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 2: you blew the pass. Interferance should have called on pick.

935
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: But when the flag, the flag comes out very rarely.

936
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: There was an instance. It was on an ineligible down field.

937
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: I can't remember which game it was in, but they

938
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: threw the flip. I think two different guys through flags

939
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: on it. Then they huddle up and they come back

940
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: said there's no flare, there's no flag for an eligible

941
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: downfield because New York probably told them.

942
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: I think they're just sitting there waiting somebody above them.

943
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: So what I think happens then is the officials become

944
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: so they officiate scared.

945
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: Yes, I think that part's a problem, which to me

946
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: is a problem. That part's a problem to So either either.

947
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: Let fans know this is what's happening, though they're never

948
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 1: going to tell us that. Yeah, because that's what's happening.

949
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: That's definitely what's happened.

950
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: Let us know who's making these these judgments on these things.

951
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: Yes, So my argument against that would be that defensive

952
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 2: hold five years ago would have been a DPI and

953
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 2: have been the wrong call and been worse, and.

954
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: Or they would have talked about it on the field

955
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 1: and said, no, the ball is uncatchable, possibly possibly because

956
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: the ball landed ten twenty feet out of bounds, which

957
00:42:58,520 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: were do in the right call.

958
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: Might right, But I've been lobbying forever that there should

959
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: be one human being in a booth by themselves with

960
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: a big red button, yes, and all you do is

961
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: punch it. I think they're kind of doing that except

962
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 2: they're in New York.

963
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: See, they should pull they should pull the curtain back

964
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: on this and make it and make it more transparent.

965
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: Is what is my argument, Like, if you took it,

966
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: if you took an you know, former officials, guys who

967
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 1: have worked they had done twenty years in the league. Yeah,

968
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: and you or even if if you take these guys

969
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: and say, okay, you're got to be an official for

970
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: ten years in the league, and then we'll make you

971
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 1: the booth official because you're not able to necessarily run.

972
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 2: You know you maybe you're older and you don't.

973
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: We don't want you on the field. We want to

974
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: keep cycling young people.

975
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 2: And you're good at what you do. Yeah, yeah, you're

976
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: the booth guy and.

977
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: You use them as the booth people. But you okay,

978
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: that's going to be a booth caller. So it's a

979
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: booth you know, but don't just make it. I have

980
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 1: no idea who's making those calls in New York.

981
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: And what's funny is they don't tell you this is

982
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 2: under review or this is They don't tell you anything.

983
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Alan games their standalone. It's not like there's

984
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: it's not like there's nine other games going on at

985
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: the same time, like at at one o'clock on a

986
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: Sunday officiating, I don't know how they handle it for that.

987
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: Is there one guy that does all this for the

988
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: entire league and he watches all one room?

989
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 2: I know if there's one person, you know.

990
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: Is there one person that make it like they got

991
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: he's got a second quarter somebody watching each game and

992
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: all you better get over here and see this. When

993
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: what if there's two things happen at the same time

994
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: in two different.

995
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 2: Games, shows a lot of eyes in that room.

996
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 1: But let me know, let's let us know.

997
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, lacking officiating needs a ton of work. But I

998
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 2: do think no matter what the process is, they get

999
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: more calls right than they did five years ago, inevitably.

1000
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 2: I don't know how they get there. They're never going

1001
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: to tell us. They still blow a ton of holds

1002
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 2: and pis and all those things. But I think that

1003
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: replay and going to New York inevitably gets the right

1004
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: call more than it used to.

1005
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if they that's the case or not.

1006
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: I just never know. I think we see more of

1007
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: it now because of social media and there's every angle

1008
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: in the world. Yeah, yeah, I don't know that it's

1009
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: better or worse, but we should know that they should

1010
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: pull the curtain back and say, here's who's making these decisions.

1011
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 2: I still have my idea of Again, you're just in

1012
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: a booth with a big red button and all the

1013
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 2: only reason you hit that big red button is, hey, guys,

1014
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: you missed something. It could be a hold, it could

1015
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: be a trip, it could be anything. Anything's reviewable by

1016
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: the big red button guy.

1017
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, before we before we get going here.

1018
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: So we saw Jaylen Warren find a couple of times

1019
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: this year for lowering his helmet. Yeah, on contact with

1020
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: things or you know, blocking or whatever. Patrick Mahomes get

1021
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: fined for lowering his helmet and breaking it. Pretty good

1022
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: evidence that there's pretty good evidence he lowered and went

1023
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: hemilt to helmet to helmet. Do you think they have

1024
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: the guts to come down and find Patrick Mahomes twenty

1025
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: five grand for lowering his helmet?

1026
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: Crazy play, because wow, it must have been cold. They

1027
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: never will find him for that. And what I've been

1028
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 2: told is he should have had to leave the game,

1029
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 2: because that's like losing your shoe or equipment that failed,

1030
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 2: you know, to stopping the game and because you're Pat

1031
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 2: Mahomes in the Red.

1032
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: He ran a play like that too. If if you're

1033
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: having somebody in New York buzzing in on stuff again

1034
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 1: standalone game, how does nobody buzz in until the officials

1035
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: he's got to it's definitely the TV is they stopped

1036
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: the game on uh when Pooka and Nakua came back

1037
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: out and they thought he hadn't been checked for concussion

1038
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: and they stopped the game. Oh hold up, we gotta wait,

1039
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: And then they came on, No, he's been cleared. I mean,

1040
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: you can do it for that, you can't do it

1041
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: for Homes out there with with a big chunk out

1042
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: of his helmet missing.

1043
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 2: Imagine if he took another shot in the head without

1044
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: a piece of his helmet and it's brain gammage or

1045
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 2: you know, Pat Mahomes' career is.

1046
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: Over before because it's it's broken helmet more of a

1047
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: breaks off and.

1048
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: Obviously it's not safe. Yeah right, I don't know how

1049
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 2: they let that happen when the stadium saw it.

1050
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Crazy. Anyways, that's going to do it for today's show.

1051
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: So I know we didn't talk a ton about the game.

1052
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff to talk about. Yead a

1053
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: whole week, a whole off season now, Uh but uh yeah,

1054
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for today's show. We'll be back

1055
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: again tomorrow for my partner Matt Williamson for Justin Miller

1056
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,959
Speaker 1: here on site keeping us on the air. I'm Dale Lelly.

1057
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: We thank you for listening to this edition of the

1058
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.