Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room
Speaker 1: for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the
Speaker 1: confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star Infrasco. And now
Speaker 1: your host, Kyle Yeomans.
Speaker 2: Today is Thursday, March thirteenth, twenty twenty five, and we
Speaker 2: are forty two days away from the NFL Draft in
Speaker 2: Green Bay, Wisconsin. As we are officially six weeks out today,
Speaker 2: a month and a half.
Speaker 3: It's a sprint.
Speaker 4: Let's get it.
Speaker 2: It's a forty yard dash. Now, forty two yard dash.
Speaker 2: I guess what's sure will talking about it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Forty two yard dash?
Speaker 6: What do you what?
Speaker 5: A Barry Church run in the forty forty two?
Speaker 3: Hey, that's a great forty two. He was in the force.
Speaker 5: I think it was like four sevens or.
Speaker 6: Yeah, to Toledo or six nine that nine, Oh, he.
Speaker 5: Was meant to be in Dallas. Then all right, what
Speaker 5: is that supposed for six nine area code? Yes, there's
Speaker 5: a four six nine And you have to come on, Kyle,
Speaker 5: there's a four six nine area code.
Speaker 4: It's like the Frisco area code for.
Speaker 5: Six nine nine two one four.
Speaker 4: Wow, come on, Kyle, this this Waco guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, baby all day, every day, two five four, all right,
Speaker 2: welcome in. We've got Nick Harris, Brian brought us watch
Speaker 2: Lombardi with Bobby belt on, Kyle Yeomans with Chris Beam
Speaker 2: and company in the back, putting up some great film
Speaker 2: as we go along in this show. I want to
Speaker 2: talk about kind of the the last twenty four hours
Speaker 2: or so, the Cowboys front office was pretty busy, kind
Speaker 2: of maneuvering some whatever you want to look at it
Speaker 2: depth pieces. You you can look at it as maybe
Speaker 2: potential starters.
Speaker 3: Around the way.
Speaker 2: A couple of trades, one of which are actually a
Speaker 2: couple of which that were guys that were talked about
Speaker 2: on this show back whenever they were coming out of
Speaker 2: the NFL Draft, Guys like Kye or Elam who's coming
Speaker 2: out of floor was a first round pick in his
Speaker 2: own right. Solomon Thomas again first round pick, third overall
Speaker 2: on the draft show, talked about him quite a bit
Speaker 2: whenever he was making his way out as a defensive lineman.
Speaker 2: And then Kenneth Murray was a linebacker out of Oklahoma
Speaker 2: that we talked about. The trades all happening and the
Speaker 2: signings all happening over these last forty eight hours and Nick,
Speaker 2: when you look at kind of the way that the
Speaker 2: roster construction is gone, does it affect anything so far
Speaker 2: on what is happening in terms of the NFL Draft
Speaker 2: or can we kind of get an idea and read
Speaker 2: between the lines here of what the Cowboys front offices think?
Speaker 6: Yes, certainly, I mean free agency is kind of your
Speaker 6: layup for what you need in the draft.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 6: Granted, when you're looking at this team and the moves
Speaker 6: that they made over the course of last few days,
Speaker 6: it's more so addressing the depth issues. In my opinion,
Speaker 6: you look at the corner position going in getting kayri
Speaker 6: elm that's just a guy that you can hope can
Speaker 6: compete for a spot on the outside until Trayvon Diggs
Speaker 6: can be back and then maybe kind of be your
Speaker 6: amanio or a warrier in a sense where he's that
Speaker 6: first rotation guy in at best case scenario. Then you
Speaker 6: look at Kenneth Murray and Jack Sanborn, adding much needed
Speaker 6: depth to that linebacker room. Not only do you have
Speaker 6: to Marven Overstrom coming back from injury, but that room
Speaker 6: is also young. So bringing in two guys who have
Speaker 6: been in the league for a cup of Tea. It definitely.
Speaker 6: It definitely will help that room out as well.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 6: I think we talked about Javonte Williams on Tuesday, but
Speaker 6: I think on the offensive side of the ball, there's
Speaker 6: still probably some need for depth, and specifically at running back,
Speaker 6: specifically at receiver. So that's where you start to look
Speaker 6: in the draft maybe a little bit more. And you
Speaker 6: still need a lot of depth at corner. One guy
Speaker 6: is not going to fix the issue that you have
Speaker 6: at corner right now. So I'm still looking at those
Speaker 6: three positions as probably the most likely for premium picks
Speaker 6: in the draft.
Speaker 3: Does it change anything at linebacker or corner for you
Speaker 3: at all?
Speaker 8: This is my thing, right and I don't want to
Speaker 8: talk crazy about people while I'm in their building, you know,
Speaker 8: I just you know, if this is all about depth,
Speaker 8: then perfect. This is about the guys that are at
Speaker 8: the bottom of the roster. Cool, But I have an
Speaker 8: odd feeling that in about two months we're going to
Speaker 8: be like, oh, yeah, we had to play a game today.
Speaker 8: We could play with Kennan Mery linebacker right now. We
Speaker 8: can play with such and such starting right now. And
Speaker 8: I don't want that to be the situation. I don't
Speaker 8: want And I say us because I'm more fan. I
Speaker 8: don't work here. But when I say like the Cowboys, right,
Speaker 8: I don't. I don't want them to be like, all right,
Speaker 8: we're just trying to fix this bottom of the RUSS.
Speaker 8: I think most of Cowboy fans want them to fix
Speaker 8: the top of it for the most part. So yeah,
Speaker 8: I mean you you still got a draft in me
Speaker 8: and Brian just had this convo last night. It's like
Speaker 8: the pressure that's on the draft, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 8: Like if this is a like you want to hit one, two,
Speaker 8: and three if you can. This ain't one of those
Speaker 8: years where okay, well let's develop our third round guy
Speaker 8: and see where he is in three or four years.
Speaker 8: Like you need all your guys on deck. And I
Speaker 8: think this is about as good as the offseason acquisitions
Speaker 8: are gonna go. I think this is as high as
Speaker 8: it's gonna get. I still think we're gonna lan on
Speaker 8: draft and we're gonna fill out the rest of an
Speaker 8: andraft free agency.
Speaker 3: Just my personal opinion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think there's a lot of Cowboys fans
Speaker 2: out there that feel that way, Brian, But I just
Speaker 2: in talking with those around the building and kind of
Speaker 2: the general feel I think they're they're addressing eleven through
Speaker 2: fifty three.
Speaker 3: We've had that conversation before. Right when you look at.
Speaker 2: One through ten on this Cowboys roster and you stack
Speaker 2: them up against some of the other teams across the NFL,
Speaker 2: you feel pretty good about what you have one through ten.
Speaker 2: The Micah's and the CDs and the Dacks and the
Speaker 2: Tyler Smith's of the world, just to name a few.
Speaker 2: But it's eleven through fifty three. They're addressing that right now?
Speaker 2: Are they going to get there and address another spot
Speaker 2: in that one through ten and push somebody out of
Speaker 2: the top ten?
Speaker 3: Oh, that's what they want to do.
Speaker 4: I'll continue with you on one point. I mean to
Speaker 4: cut you off.
Speaker 6: Sure, I think these moves have more so been addressing
Speaker 6: thirty through fifty three.
Speaker 3: Okay, they need.
Speaker 6: The eleven through thirty now, like they still got to
Speaker 6: legitimate starters who could be a legitimate starter, Like, yeah,
Speaker 6: Kenneth Murray can be a starter for you, But I mean,
Speaker 6: instincts are going to have to take a giant step
Speaker 6: forward under Matt eve Refluse. You hope scheme can kind
Speaker 6: of help that. I think Jack Sanborn's a really good player.
Speaker 6: I think he's gonna end up being a pretty good
Speaker 6: player for this team. But you still need that eleven
Speaker 6: through thirty in my opinion, and that's where you go
Speaker 6: in the draft, in the first round, second round, third round,
Speaker 6: and you hope those guys, but like you said, you
Speaker 6: don't really have an opportunity to let those guys develop.
Speaker 6: You have to have those guys hit right now.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I tell you couldn't have another year where you
Speaker 9: let talent walk out the building. They couldn't have back
Speaker 9: to back years where the depth is also just walking
Speaker 9: out the building and they did nothing about it. So yeah,
Speaker 9: to me, it's more about, like what Nick was talking about,
Speaker 9: I think, replacing those guys and hopefully you get something
Speaker 9: out of it. I agree with you about Samborn. I
Speaker 9: think that Solomon Thomas could be a really good player
Speaker 9: here as a three technique as well. So I am
Speaker 9: very very hopeful for some of those additions. But yeah,
Speaker 9: to me, this was about trying not to just completely
Speaker 9: lose all the depth that they had built out over
Speaker 9: those teams that were that were twelve and five though
Speaker 9: for those three.
Speaker 3: Years, And I like the way you put it.
Speaker 2: The thirty through fifty three is perfect because, like you said,
Speaker 2: you're not going to put Solomon Thomas in the one
Speaker 2: through thirty mark, You're not going to put Kenneth Murray
Speaker 2: in the one through thirty. Can they work their way
Speaker 2: up there? Can kayri elm be in that category possibly
Speaker 2: if they have a great season. Where do you feel
Speaker 2: like they can add that eleven through thirty right now? Bobby,
Speaker 2: when you're looking at this roster, is there anything out
Speaker 2: there from a free agent standpoint, a trade standpoint that
Speaker 2: you can say that's a spot where they have the
Speaker 2: capital to do so.
Speaker 5: Like the one area where I look at right now
Speaker 5: and I say, I don't think they have a starting
Speaker 5: player there right now? Is their number two receiver? Like
Speaker 5: I don't think I don't think they've got a two
Speaker 5: receiver right now. Luckily, if you want to just hold
Speaker 5: out some hope and say Dallas gets more involved in
Speaker 5: free agency than they typically have been around the high
Speaker 5: end of the market, receivers one of the areas that
Speaker 5: still has not been completely picked over in free agency
Speaker 5: right now. There's still plenty of them out there who
Speaker 5: could probably step in and contribute to a two or
Speaker 5: three level for you here, So I said it this
Speaker 5: morning on one of five through the fan. To me,
Speaker 5: it's Dallas has to get comfortable with pain and uncomfortable price,
Speaker 5: or get comfortable with not having guys come in here
Speaker 5: and fill those roles because you're going to have to
Speaker 5: then just lean completely on the draft. So to me, receiver,
Speaker 5: do you want to stand around and see, okay, what
Speaker 5: does the market play out like for steff On Digs
Speaker 5: or Cooper cup or any of these free agents or
Speaker 5: Mary Cooper, whoever it may be. Do you want to
Speaker 5: stand around there and just go, okay, do you come
Speaker 5: down to a level that we're comfortable with or do
Speaker 5: you come into a range where all right, we take
Speaker 5: a little bit of a step up from discomfort, you
Speaker 5: take a little bit of a step down from where
Speaker 5: you wanted to be, and we can meet in the middle.
Speaker 5: Can you go find the Randall Cobbs signing from a
Speaker 5: couple of years ago, but you're probably gonna have to
Speaker 5: pay more than that just because that was one year,
Speaker 5: five million, five six years.
Speaker 4: Ago, or the Brandon Cooks trade.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, So you need to go find something like that.
Speaker 5: That's the biggest area where right now I say, I
Speaker 5: need a contingency there. You've got your contingencies in other areas,
Speaker 5: and that's seems to always be the Moniker from the
Speaker 5: Cowboys and free agencies. Contingencies for you up pick best
Speaker 5: player available when you get to the draft. Receiver is
Speaker 5: an area where that don't know that they've got contingencies
Speaker 5: right now?
Speaker 4: Do you still need another one at corner two?
Speaker 8: Yeah? Why do you guys think the ghost and thing
Speaker 8: didn't work out? Because you know, could it be like, well,
Speaker 8: he costs too much money, We don't want to bring
Speaker 8: Ghost and baby. You think maybe ghost and didn't want
Speaker 8: to come back. Do you think we're gonna lean on
Speaker 8: Marshaun and you know, Sam Williams or something like that.
Speaker 8: I think Ghoston was a valuable, valuable depth type dude
Speaker 8: for you, and he showed that he can like start
Speaker 8: for you, like if it's an emergency or whatever, Ghoston
Speaker 8: can start for you.
Speaker 3: And I think you want your deposition bitch, okay, full
Speaker 3: blown age.
Speaker 8: I think you you want your depth guys to be
Speaker 8: like low key kind of starters in an emergency, right.
Speaker 8: I don't Thinkton Peyton Turner. I don't think Peyton Turner
Speaker 8: can start a whole bunch of games for you, right,
Speaker 8: So I think we kind of got a little worse here.
Speaker 3: Why do you think Ghoston didn't see it?
Speaker 9: That's where I think that they they'll disagree with you
Speaker 9: on that. They think they think that Peyton Turner could
Speaker 9: be what Golston was.
Speaker 5: There's upside. I think there's upside.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm sick of upside. Honestly, I'm tired.
Speaker 10: I'm tired.
Speaker 8: I'm sick of shooting dice on getting better. I'm sick
Speaker 8: of banking on coaches.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you where. I'll tell you where. I'm sick
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 9: Nick and I had this discussion yesterday on the break
Speaker 9: is like these guys would position flex Yeah, you know.
Speaker 9: And that's why I ask you, what position do you
Speaker 9: think that Golston can play? Because I think that they
Speaker 9: lost that and I think they lost that along his
Speaker 9: way in his career.
Speaker 3: So myself and you.
Speaker 9: Immediately said edge, oh okay, yeah, someone finally standing up
Speaker 9: and saying he could.
Speaker 3: That's that's That's That's what I'm saying always.
Speaker 9: So to me, I think that they I think that
Speaker 9: they look at I think they look at Peyton Turner.
Speaker 3: As that guy, the length, the size.
Speaker 9: He doesn't I don't think he rushes the passer as
Speaker 9: well as Goldston. I'm not saying Golston's great, right, but
Speaker 9: but playing the run and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: I think that's where in their mind they're like, we
Speaker 3: would rather have this is okay. This is where I
Speaker 3: think they were.
Speaker 9: I wonder if they really misevaluated where some of these
Speaker 9: guys money was gonna come down. And you look at
Speaker 9: and you look at where Dowdell's money came down yesterday,
Speaker 9: You look where Jordan Lewis's money came down. You know,
Speaker 9: did you look at maybe with Golston, did you even try?
Speaker 9: Did you think the money was going to be too
Speaker 9: much there?
Speaker 3: You know? See that's the that's the and Golston six
Speaker 3: meeting and don't look too bad or doesn't look too bad.
Speaker 3: See that's I'm saying.
Speaker 9: I think that they I think that they went into
Speaker 9: this thinking we could get Lewis.
Speaker 3: Back, we could get him back.
Speaker 9: They didn't expect Lewis to make ten million dollars and Nick,
Speaker 9: I don't think they expected Rico Daddle to make.
Speaker 3: Three million dollars.
Speaker 9: So that's I I wonder if they got lost in there,
Speaker 9: what the value of that player was going to be
Speaker 9: and they and they quickly pivoted to other positions.
Speaker 5: Who are there? Who are their handful of biggest departures
Speaker 5: so far?
Speaker 2: Jordan Lewis, huh, Chauncey Golston. Yeah, the guys that we
Speaker 2: just talked about Rico Market.
Speaker 5: Okay, literally the first four names we named, they're all
Speaker 5: repped by the same person. Yeah, they're aped by the
Speaker 5: same agent.
Speaker 3: Could be that.
Speaker 5: It could be that you just you're having some some
Speaker 5: headbutting right now.
Speaker 3: That's that's very very good point.
Speaker 7: And so.
Speaker 4: So Logical has two more out there in Israel, Mkwuamu
Speaker 4: and Nick Visual.
Speaker 5: Yes, and so look, I'm gonna rep in half of
Speaker 5: half the class year, and that's somebody who you've had
Speaker 5: some tough negotiations with in the past. With Mark Slawrence.
Speaker 5: It could just be that, I think if if they
Speaker 5: weren't coming to a place where where his representation felt
Speaker 5: like on a number, you feel like.
Speaker 3: That they didn't want it, They didn't want to fight
Speaker 3: that fight. I mean, I'm asking you something to.
Speaker 5: I think Lewis they wanted to fight for I think Lewis,
Speaker 5: I think Jordan Lewis got more than they thought. I
Speaker 5: don't think they thought he was going to get tend.
Speaker 3: That's where I thought.
Speaker 9: I thought that they misevaluated the money that some of
Speaker 9: these guys were gonna Lewis, I didn't think about the
Speaker 9: agent angle.
Speaker 4: I think Dowdell.
Speaker 5: I think Dowdell got Dowdell got two seven five with
Speaker 5: uh some stuff that could get him up to six.
Speaker 5: H I think they thought Dowbell probably could have gotten
Speaker 5: around three. I think they thought that was possible. I
Speaker 5: don't know that they would have been comfortable with, and
Speaker 5: I don't know what the incentives are. It makes me
Speaker 5: wonder if the incentives they weren't happy with. They thought, Okay,
Speaker 5: those are incentives that we don't necessarily want to pay
Speaker 5: up to. So it could be something along those lines.
Speaker 5: But you know, I think Dowdell was a guy who
Speaker 5: he thought they their anticipation, I think from his side
Speaker 5: was that he was going to be able to get
Speaker 5: six on the market. I thought they got six up
Speaker 5: there with incentives, and so so they pivoted quickly. I
Speaker 5: think they went to Javonte Williams thinking yeah, and that
Speaker 5: out market was not the same as probably what what
Speaker 5: Dowbdell thought it was going to be. Galston, I think
Speaker 5: that was around what they thought it could be. But
Speaker 5: I think they figured they can they can find something
Speaker 5: similar or cheaper in terms of return, and then Lawrence
Speaker 5: was one where I just think that was over. I
Speaker 5: think that had reached its end.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 6: I think another part of the conversation at running back is, Okay,
Speaker 6: if you're bringing back Doubt or are you bringing him
Speaker 6: back as a one B orre you're bringing him back
Speaker 6: as an RB two, what does that look like? And
Speaker 6: if you're bringing him back as an RB one, which
Speaker 6: is what he would expect after coming off a thousand
Speaker 6: yard season over twelve hundred yard scrimmage yards, if you're
Speaker 6: bringing him back as an RB one, then you're drafting
Speaker 6: an RB two in a really deep running back class.
Speaker 4: Or you can go get a guy like Javonte Williams, who.
Speaker 6: Was okay being your RB two, he's approven RB two
Speaker 6: receiving a pass blob, and then you go get a
Speaker 6: damn good RB one in this draft. I think that's
Speaker 6: probably part of the thought process as well. It's just like, hey,
Speaker 6: this guy, he's played four years, he's got experience. Yes,
Speaker 6: he had that one injury, but he looks like he's
Speaker 6: bounced back from that. He's one of the best best
Speaker 6: pass catching backs, one of the best pass blocking backs
Speaker 6: in this class.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 4: You pair that with an RB one in the draft
Speaker 4: and let it roll.
Speaker 2: Well, that might be why the market value is different
Speaker 2: for Doubtle than maybe his representation even thought about it initially,
Speaker 2: because teams are looking ahead and they're seeing the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five NFL Draft class and saying, Okay, we can
Speaker 2: get guys here that are going to do what Legal
Speaker 2: Doubtell can bring you the team.
Speaker 5: And I don't know whenever I think of Doubtle, like
Speaker 5: if I'm starting to think of, like Describeery Godaubtle, like,
Speaker 5: one of the first words that comes to mind for
Speaker 5: me is violent, Like he's a violent running style. And
Speaker 5: I think there are questions for this organization. They've seen
Speaker 5: it for five years, how well is he going to
Speaker 5: hold up physically, because I mean, it's been a challenge
Speaker 5: for him to stay healthy throughout his career and that
Speaker 5: violent running Stot's like, Okay, how much do we anticipate
Speaker 5: that you can handle that consistently with this type of
Speaker 5: player that you are. Is your body gonna be able
Speaker 5: to hold up into that? So I don't think they
Speaker 5: wanted to lean on him as a running back one
Speaker 5: because I think they high concerns about can they manage
Speaker 5: that consistently?
Speaker 3: Kyle, If I can ask a question real quick, first,
Speaker 3: I guess you guy should check.
Speaker 9: Your boards, give me a guy that you match with
Speaker 9: Williams that that could be potentially that RB one for you.
Speaker 3: Then just just tell me off just a duo.
Speaker 6: I think we may have talked about this a little
Speaker 6: bit on Tuesday. Damien Martinez. I feel I could be
Speaker 6: could be a guy I would want to load. I
Speaker 6: would want a guy who's Yeah, I would want a
Speaker 6: guy who's who's a big guy Todd Brooks, Damian Martinez
Speaker 6: who can get you those short yards. But I'd also
Speaker 6: be okay with a Devin Neil, a guy that's had
Speaker 6: production three straight a thousand yard seasons, only missed one
Speaker 6: game in his entire career.
Speaker 3: There's there's there's a speed level on those guys. I
Speaker 3: mean that the quickness, you know what I'm saying, That's
Speaker 3: what I was thinking. I was thinking. I was yeah,
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 9: Thinking that, you know I love what you're doing with
Speaker 9: the physicality and the toughness of the player. If I
Speaker 9: if I needed, if I needed, give me some give
Speaker 9: me a guy to pair with him.
Speaker 3: It's got juice in the same time.
Speaker 7: R J.
Speaker 3: Harvey, Okay, he's got blue blue Okay.
Speaker 11: R J.
Speaker 6: Harvey's got breakaway speed. Burchard Smith, although I think he's
Speaker 6: going to be more of a receiver at the next level,
Speaker 6: more of a slot guy. Yeah, but there are some
Speaker 6: speed guys by shell Touton out of Virginia Tech. Yeah,
Speaker 6: he had some great testing at the combine. There's some
Speaker 6: speed guys.
Speaker 3: He plays fast too, Yeah, he does. And these are
Speaker 3: these are.
Speaker 2: Later round guys. I mean you're not hitting gent Or
Speaker 2: Hampton or Henderson or Johnson. Sure those guys up at
Speaker 2: the top. If you wanted physicality, you could pair him
Speaker 2: with a guy like Caleb Johnson out of Iowa. He's
Speaker 2: got some physicality to his game. Marion Hampton's two hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty pounds.
Speaker 6: So what why what other of these Ohio State backs
Speaker 6: I think would be that would be great.
Speaker 9: I got a feeling, I got a feeling that you're
Speaker 9: gonna do something else At twelve and forty four.
Speaker 4: Talking about specific yeah, yeah, other than running back.
Speaker 3: Running back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd get a running back at forty four. I
Speaker 4: wouldn't at twelve.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, because there's there's only one there and you
Speaker 2: don't think it would be Yeah, I don't think he's
Speaker 2: gonna be there.
Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, yeah, is he not gonna Is he not
Speaker 9: going to be there? Just because of the depth of
Speaker 9: what's what we're starting to see at the top of
Speaker 9: the sport. Think it's that conversation we had the top.
Speaker 9: It's it's the it's the Raider thing.
Speaker 4: Starting to free up.
Speaker 6: Some are the Bears starting to really load up on
Speaker 6: the offensive line, understanding what they are trying to do offensively.
Speaker 4: The Raiders what they have done. They've gotten their quarterback.
Speaker 6: Well I don't know if they did, but they say
Speaker 6: now quarterback, yeah, and they just need a running back.
Speaker 6: They need a game change in running back because that
Speaker 6: was the worst backfield in the NFL last year, hands down.
Speaker 2: So I want to talk about replacements, but just in
Speaker 2: a different area because we've talked about Javonte Williams, pairing
Speaker 2: him with somebody to replace Rico Dwell, talked about Solomon
Speaker 2: Thomas and Peyton Turner as possible replacements for Chauncey Golson
Speaker 2: on the defensive line. But the biggest name and the
Speaker 2: number one name that the Cowboys are going to have
Speaker 2: to replace is at nickel corner. Where are we going
Speaker 2: in this NFL draft when you look at the board
Speaker 2: top to bottom to try and replace Jordan Lewis and
Speaker 2: what he brought to the table. Is there a starting
Speaker 2: caliber Nickel that's out there in the draft that you
Speaker 2: would be comfortable using one of your early premium picks on.
Speaker 8: I'll tell you what Man barn is there. But do
Speaker 8: you draft Baron at twelve to just play nickel forty?
Speaker 8: That's the question, you know, because I think he can
Speaker 8: do fine just as an outside guy. But you know,
Speaker 8: and then also too, just a Cowboys talk, like how
Speaker 8: far are we from just saying, all right, Bland, we've
Speaker 8: been We've been having this conversations about you being nickel guy.
Speaker 8: Just get another outside guy that you trust for real,
Speaker 8: and we could just take Bland back to where he
Speaker 8: grew up, you know.
Speaker 5: And you know, yeah, I wonder if if they get
Speaker 5: if they feel like they're in a pinch, like I
Speaker 5: do think on the free agent market, they're in a
Speaker 5: pinch right now if they wanted to try and address
Speaker 5: Nickel there there's not a ton of options, and corner
Speaker 5: has gone Cincinnati. That Hilton Hilton, Mike Hilton. Yeah, older guy, right,
Speaker 5: older guy, and he gets he's got injury history. Okay,
Speaker 5: that's just thing. I don't know how much they can
Speaker 5: go that direction. I just don't know how much with
Speaker 5: some of the issues that they're having right now in
Speaker 5: terms of depth there, how much they want to lean
Speaker 5: on potentially guy with that injury history. I do think
Speaker 5: that the cost on the free agent market for corners
Speaker 5: right now has been so high. Jordan Lewis at ten million,
Speaker 5: He's on the bottom half of corners that have signed
Speaker 5: so far by consider bull amount. So to me, yeah,
Speaker 5: you're looking at you're you're looking at the draft and
Speaker 5: so are you gonna draft a corner to play outside
Speaker 5: and move bland in? Are you gonna look at the
Speaker 5: third round? Are you gonna look at Jacob Parrish? Are
Speaker 5: you gonna look at Baron Maxwell Haston?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 9: See, I was thinking I don't have Harriston from Kentucky
Speaker 9: as a second round player, but man, you might have
Speaker 9: to hit him at forty four.
Speaker 4: Everybody love him, so you had to give him the third.
Speaker 9: I do have him at the third and I haven't.
Speaker 9: I didn't move it, and I got him. And I
Speaker 9: like Noel Williams from cal You guys know that.
Speaker 3: Two good ones.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so, but I I'm kind of in that mode
Speaker 9: right now. But Harrison's probably gonna have to go at
Speaker 9: forty four. Thomas from Florida State, do anything for you
Speaker 9: in Nicol.
Speaker 6: I think he's more of an outside guy, but I
Speaker 6: could see Nicol possibility.
Speaker 5: Yeah, one brother, Yeah, I like, I really like.
Speaker 6: Jacob Parrish out of Kansas State. I see Riley out
Speaker 6: of Louisville. I think those are two.
Speaker 9: See. I have both those guys in the fourth, and
Speaker 9: I have a feeling they're probably both going to go
Speaker 9: in the third.
Speaker 5: I think, uh, I think, I mean, I think this
Speaker 5: team likes Thomas. I think they would probably view him
Speaker 5: outside though, and so but I mean, again, that's not
Speaker 5: going to be a problem if you just say Bland
Speaker 5: will play inside and that Bland will play the nickel,
Speaker 5: and that may be what they have to do. I
Speaker 5: think they thought they were going to get Jordan Lewis back,
Speaker 5: and I think that this is kind of. I think
Speaker 5: they are in a state right now where they're having
Speaker 5: to do some adjustments and trying to figure out where
Speaker 5: they might be able to find some answers.
Speaker 6: You have a lot easier time convincing to Ron Bland
Speaker 6: to play at Nickel if you get an extension done
Speaker 6: with him before the season starts.
Speaker 5: Got a lot of you got a lot of room,
Speaker 5: you know something there? Yeah, look, you got a lot
Speaker 5: of room.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: I wish your job saying when you said that, because
Speaker 2: they're they're playing Jacob Parish film, which, by the way,
Speaker 2: Zach Wilchuck just text he said he's the answer in
Speaker 2: terms of the Nickel Corner spot.
Speaker 12: But I.
Speaker 3: Got him. I think I got a couple of these
Speaker 3: guys too low that perish perish.
Speaker 2: In the fourth when when you're looking at it, you've
Speaker 2: brought up Jalen Kimber from Penn State before.
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, it's more so like a late Day three.
Speaker 6: That's a late guy, right, Yeah, that's more so like guy.
Speaker 3: He get a combine invite.
Speaker 4: I don't think he did not get a combine invite.
Speaker 4: That was a surprise.
Speaker 6: Dan Jackson was another one that was surprising, even though
Speaker 6: I was kind of pooping on him on Tuesday. Another
Speaker 6: nickel type guy that I really liked coming out of
Speaker 6: the All Star Swing was Robert Longer Beam out of Ruggers.
Speaker 6: That's a guy that I've heard good things on. And
Speaker 6: then Jalen Smith at USC really talented player who's played
Speaker 6: multiple spots in the secondary. Talking to a lot of
Speaker 6: dB trainers in Indianapolis, Jalen Smith is a guy that
Speaker 6: they feel like is not getting enough love in this
Speaker 6: draft process. So Jaylen Smith would be another one. I
Speaker 6: think there's some talented Nickels in this draft.
Speaker 11: I do.
Speaker 6: And if you feel like you have to wait till
Speaker 6: day three to go get one, now, look, it's gonna
Speaker 6: be tough finding a starter on day tree, but you
Speaker 6: might be in that situation because you have to fill
Speaker 6: some other holes on the first couple of days. I
Speaker 6: think you might be able to hit on one or two.
Speaker 6: Elijah Hussey out of North Carolina really shining at the
Speaker 6: Shrine Bowl. I remember Isaiah stand Back, Me and him
Speaker 6: were sitting on the side of the sideline watching practice
Speaker 6: during the Shrine Bowl and he that was his favorite
Speaker 6: guy on the field. So, uh, Huzzy is a is
Speaker 6: another one. I would throw out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he liked him versus Mumpfield, the receiver out of
Speaker 2: pit like he liked seeing those guys go up against
Speaker 2: each other throughout. Now, Jaylen Smith was the guy who
Speaker 2: stood out to me from a nickel standpoint. Remember when
Speaker 2: Tedes Johnson was kind of turning heads at the Senior Bowl,
Speaker 2: there was one guy that stood up to him and
Speaker 2: actually had some success in the one on ones, and
Speaker 2: it was Jaylen Smith against TZ.
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Speaker 7: Is that what it is?
Speaker 3: Fifty four along the way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just like the way he worked that celebration.
Speaker 5: Thought there, I thought he went.
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Speaker 3: Is it more likely for the.
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Speaker 2: When we were talking about Javonte Williams earlier about the
Speaker 2: NFL draft side of things with Javonte Williams on the
Speaker 2: roster outside of Ashton genty, which one of those two Await,
Speaker 2: that's actually the exact same question.
Speaker 3: We just talked about. Two or three round? Where are
Speaker 3: you going with this? Yeah, two or three round guys
Speaker 3: that we would end up being with. Okay, let go
Speaker 3: echo echo, Yeah, let's do Christians question.
Speaker 2: This is a this or that You've got MIKEL Williams,
Speaker 2: the addresser out of Georgia that we talked about on
Speaker 2: Tuesday radio, and at forty four you got Caleb Johnson,
Speaker 2: the running back from Iowa.
Speaker 3: So you address your your.
Speaker 2: Running back spot, or you go with Luther Burdon wide
Speaker 2: receiver at twelve out of Missouri, and you go with
Speaker 2: Donovan Jackson and at Rusher at forty offensive regard from
Speaker 2: from Ohio Ohio State at forty four to address your
Speaker 2: offensive line spots. So you're either running the ball with
Speaker 2: Johnson or you're throwing the ball with Burden, and then
Speaker 2: you're playing a little defense with Mikel Williams and Donovan
Speaker 2: Jackson's blocking for I guess Javonte Williams.
Speaker 8: The Luther Burden Jackson one seems to have better, you know,
Speaker 8: better players for me. I would love to have Johnson
Speaker 8: at forty four, but I'd have attitude that we drafted
Speaker 8: Mikeil Williams at twelve.
Speaker 3: And it's people that think that I hate Michil Williams.
Speaker 3: I don't hate my sounds like that.
Speaker 8: I just wouldn't appreciate him at twelve overall, well, because
Speaker 8: I think, you know, if you're going to walk, you know, like,
Speaker 8: tell me why we're drafting him, right. He's a run
Speaker 8: guy that has upside as a pass rusher. I only
Speaker 8: really seen him, you know, sacked Texas. I didn't really
Speaker 8: see him sacking anybody else. So I just think if
Speaker 8: I'm drafting at twelve, I think that would be much
Speaker 8: better ready to go players right now. I'm I'm not
Speaker 8: the guy that banks on upside. I love a good floor.
Speaker 8: I love what are you good at right now?
Speaker 3: Because you're tired of upside?
Speaker 8: I hate upside upside because I don't know. I don't
Speaker 8: know if you were I don't know if you work hard.
Speaker 8: I don't know how good coaching is here. But if
Speaker 8: I could just bank on anything, I want to bank
Speaker 8: on the guys that okay, Well, I know you have
Speaker 8: past rush moves. I know that you can play the run,
Speaker 8: I know that you can line up in different spies xyz.
Speaker 8: So I just feel safer with a Mike Green at
Speaker 8: twelve than I would Mikel Williams. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 8: and you know, And then I saw him running this
Speaker 8: forty on Twitter and I was like, ah, I was like, oh,
Speaker 8: is here a.
Speaker 3: Three tech now?
Speaker 7: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So it's just a lot of questions.
Speaker 8: And Brian said this like a month ago, and I
Speaker 8: think if you're drafting at twelve, you kind of want
Speaker 8: to take to do with the least amount of questions.
Speaker 3: So that's why I would feel a little weird about
Speaker 3: Mikell at twelve.
Speaker 6: Do you have more concerns about you're looking at the
Speaker 6: roster right now? Do you have more concerns about this
Speaker 6: team rushing the passer or stopping the run.
Speaker 8: Stopping the run for sure, but I think when you
Speaker 8: drafting at in your first round, I don't want to
Speaker 8: think of the team. I just want to take the
Speaker 8: best possible to do.
Speaker 3: And I understand that.
Speaker 4: I understand that.
Speaker 6: I think more so, I guess I'm thinking about it
Speaker 6: from my standpoint all. I have Williams and Green a
Speaker 6: lot closer than maybe you do, and I see it
Speaker 6: from a standpoint of like, Hey, Williams is a guy
Speaker 6: that I believe that you can put in day one
Speaker 6: start and he'll be able to stop the run and
Speaker 6: seal the edge off for you, similar to how DeMarcus
Speaker 6: Lawrence said early in his career. Now, granted, it's going
Speaker 6: to take some upside, like you said, to get to
Speaker 6: the pass rushing department, but I think you can do
Speaker 6: that with the personnel that you have involved here. For me,
Speaker 6: Mike Green, you're bringing him in as his pass rusher,
Speaker 6: and you're giving up some of the run game there
Speaker 6: because of his length, because of his lack of versatility. Sorry, Brian,
Speaker 6: but I think with mikeel Williams, you have some fluidity
Speaker 6: as far as what you can do with him.
Speaker 4: That was just my opinion.
Speaker 6: But I am curious about, not necessarily you the mike
Speaker 6: El Williams hate in the draft community. I understand where
Speaker 6: it comes from, but also factoring in his entire Georgia career.
Speaker 6: He said he played a sixty percent last season, and
Speaker 6: sixty percent looked pretty damn good to me. But I
Speaker 6: don't know one thing to note. Matt I Refluse was
Speaker 6: at George's pro day yesterday, front and center for Mikel Williams.
Speaker 3: He got a lot of Georgia players there like, yeah,
Speaker 3: they do it for sure.
Speaker 8: Twelve overall matters to me, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 8: And he's a second round grade for me, but that
Speaker 8: means he'll go like nineteenth overall or something like that,
Speaker 8: which which is fine. But in my mind, if I
Speaker 8: had to pick between him and the best wide receiver
Speaker 8: on the board, I'm probably gonna, you know, choose the
Speaker 8: wide receiver or the d lineman or the other edge
Speaker 8: rusher that I just like a little bit more, or
Speaker 8: the corners that we've been you know, bearing in particular, right,
Speaker 8: I would just rather those guys than Williams. And you know,
Speaker 8: if we got to reach for a nineteenth overall guy.
Speaker 8: At twelve, then cool. Now if we trade back and
Speaker 8: we end up with Michael Wis, then we can you know,
Speaker 8: we can party and celebrate them.
Speaker 3: But twelve now, I.
Speaker 2: Feel like at trade back scenarios, all bets are off
Speaker 2: at that point because you could go anywhere. You could
Speaker 2: go with the cornerback spot, you could go with one
Speaker 2: of those other second tier wide receivers that slips. You
Speaker 2: could go with anybody there and kind of turn it around.
Speaker 2: With kind of that in mind, William asked the question,
Speaker 2: there's been the conversation about twelve to thirteen true first
Speaker 2: round grades. You mentioned that a minute ago at fourteen
Speaker 2: after the combine, and now that we're getting in the
Speaker 2: pro days, has that changed at all for any of
Speaker 2: you guys? Where where is your board at in terms
Speaker 2: of your first round grades?
Speaker 3: Across it?
Speaker 5: Film is king? I don't want to change because somebody
Speaker 5: you know run will or you know what if somebody
Speaker 5: runs really poorly? Are you more likely to change a
Speaker 5: grade based on somebody performing really poorly at the combine
Speaker 5: or performing really well?
Speaker 3: I tend not to do either one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been see I didn't used to and then
Speaker 5: I got burned by tease taber one year, peace table
Speaker 5: will burn you Tease table tea. That was the only
Speaker 5: thing teess table woul Burn because he was not running
Speaker 5: with anybody apparently with his four six two forty at
Speaker 5: his size.
Speaker 3: But it's amazing how well he played on film though.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was really good on film. Yeah, and then
Speaker 5: he he couldn't he couldn't run, and he got to
Speaker 5: the NFL and he was a mess. And he was
Speaker 5: somebody on tape that looked like a first round player
Speaker 5: and then he ran four six two and you go, okay, well,
Speaker 5: why is a five eleven one and ninetyound corner running
Speaker 5: four six two?
Speaker 3: That's not good. I kind of feel like these guys
Speaker 3: can train for forties. That's what bothers me.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, you know, you could get a guy like
Speaker 9: and we've talked about and I'm the the example I
Speaker 9: always uses the ursery from Minnesota tested really really well.
Speaker 9: He doesn't play like he tests, so that that kind
Speaker 9: of that's those are the kinds of things I'm I'm
Speaker 9: with fog Listen. I would I would rather die on
Speaker 9: the hill, the film hill, yep, than I would the
Speaker 9: workout hill.
Speaker 6: I think there is value seeing these people up close
Speaker 6: in person? Yeah, more so in like a Senior Bowl
Speaker 6: or a shrine Bowl type.
Speaker 3: And I totally agree with you.
Speaker 6: A combine testing, Yeah, you do have to take it
Speaker 6: with the grain of salt. There's a reason it exists,
Speaker 6: and there's a reason that all thirty two teams go
Speaker 6: and they see the guys in person. But I think
Speaker 6: there is only some value put in.
Speaker 5: Tyler Shuck ran four six four At the comment Tyler
Speaker 5: Shuck the quarterback. The quarterback, So Shuck ran four six
Speaker 5: four When he first got into training, he was running.
Speaker 3: Five oh five.
Speaker 5: So I mean, like you're talking, and it kind of
Speaker 5: depends on the margins. How how out of shape does
Speaker 5: somebody show up when they start training, and how much
Speaker 5: they can add to.
Speaker 3: The stuff other guys they learn how to start.
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I mean trailing Burks, he ran four or
Speaker 5: five oh a couple years ago. I think Burks showed up.
Speaker 5: He was running for so I'm like, you can get
Speaker 5: some But like I mean.
Speaker 2: Is that why you knock a guy though? Like a
Speaker 2: test Johnson for instance, out of Oregon. I mean he
Speaker 2: plays faster on tape than he did actually running the
Speaker 2: forty does that tell you something about work ethic or
Speaker 2: train or any kind of element there.
Speaker 9: Let me know how you could go to the combine
Speaker 9: and not be ready for it exactly. That that tells
Speaker 9: me more about your character that does anything.
Speaker 3: That's the question. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So, I mean I think that the testing doesn't bump
Speaker 5: anybody necessarily. For me, what it will do is it'll
Speaker 5: make me go back and like, okay, did I was
Speaker 5: I seeing something wrong?
Speaker 3: Like if I watch Golden play, what do you see?
Speaker 3: Do you see a fourteen time guy? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I didn't expect him run four two, But like when
Speaker 5: I see it, I see it, yeah, yeah, yes, yeah no,
Speaker 5: And like I mean, there's some guys that when I
Speaker 5: see the testing, it's like, Okay, I didn't expect you
Speaker 5: were gonna run like that, And then there are other
Speaker 5: guys where it's like, wow, I really expected you to
Speaker 5: be faster. Tony Pollard was not a four or five
Speaker 5: guy on the field to me, Like he ran four
Speaker 5: or five two or whatever he did at the comment,
Speaker 5: that was not a four five player in pads on
Speaker 5: the field, there's a little bit of a difference with
Speaker 5: game speed and different things like that. I I had
Speaker 5: if you count if you count the double first round
Speaker 5: grade as receiver in corner for Travis hunder than I
Speaker 5: had fifteen. If you got him as one player, than
Speaker 5: I had fourteen, and I still got fourteen.
Speaker 2: I've got fifteen, and I'm pretty solidly at that number.
Speaker 2: I feel pretty good about fifteen. Nick, you've seen Kobe
Speaker 2: Hudson from from UCF. Yeah, towns and players as a player.
Speaker 9: See that's I'm saying there's a four or five guy
Speaker 9: that plays a lot faster than four or five.
Speaker 3: On tape.
Speaker 9: He ran like four or five to one at the combine.
Speaker 9: He's a He's a pretty depressive guy.
Speaker 2: Speaking of guys who had some pretty good combines. Ty
Speaker 2: Felton from Maryland. So Darryl asked the questions, like I said,
Speaker 2: why is Ty getting or not getting the love?
Speaker 3: He had a good combine. He's got some decent film
Speaker 3: at Maryland.
Speaker 14: Anything on ty Felton from you guys, I have no
Speaker 14: West's family, Okay, Yeah, just a bigger set guy. Not
Speaker 14: bigger set, more so long, long and outside receiver that
Speaker 14: you could definitely see pop on late day two or
Speaker 14: early day three. I think he's a talented player. You
Speaker 14: talk about production, he certainly has it. He was a
Speaker 14: third team All American this last season. I mean, he's
Speaker 14: I don't think there's necessarily lack of love for him.
Speaker 14: I mean, you look at the production he had last year,
Speaker 14: ninety six receptions and twenty four yards.
Speaker 6: Both of those stats led the Big Ten. I think
Speaker 6: this is a guy who's getting properly valued at this
Speaker 6: point in the process. I think I think the testing
Speaker 6: certainly did help him out though.
Speaker 3: Or did you have him?
Speaker 4: I have him in the fourth, fourth round?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, good to know, move him forward. He was
Speaker 3: a Senior Bowl guy as well. He was out there
Speaker 3: from Maryland.
Speaker 6: Ty Felton didn't really shine at the Senior Bowl. Maybe
Speaker 6: that was an expectation from from some people in the
Speaker 6: part of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you had other guys kind of step up like
Speaker 3: a jack back. Can you tell me who your favor
Speaker 3: round guys are? Please? At wide receiver.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say that I don't have all of
Speaker 4: them put together.
Speaker 9: Okay, now, so we'll have if I could throw Okay,
Speaker 9: let me let me throw my fourth round at you
Speaker 9: tell me Bryant from Illinois, Okay, Hudson from UCF, Higgins
Speaker 9: Iowa State, and Bond from Tech.
Speaker 3: How how would you rate him among those guys?
Speaker 6: So I have Higgins above that list. I would have
Speaker 6: Bond second. Who are the other ones you threw out there,
Speaker 6: Bryant and Hudson, Bryant and Hudson, I would go Hudson, Bryant.
Speaker 2: So, Hudson from uc F, Pat Bryant from Illinois. Who
Speaker 2: are the other names you said of? You said Bond
Speaker 2: from Texas?
Speaker 3: Right? So you have you have this this Maryland kid
Speaker 3: above all those guys. Is that ty Felton?
Speaker 9: No, I have him in the fourth That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: Above Bryant, Hudson, Higgins, Bond.
Speaker 6: No, I have Higgins and Bond in the Higgins is
Speaker 6: the second round grade. Bond is a third. Okay, and
Speaker 6: then yeah, yea, I see the others are fourth throws.
Speaker 3: Okay, got you gotch him.
Speaker 2: Anybody watched Jordan James out of Oregon running back? We
Speaker 2: had Brian He wants to know tell me more about
Speaker 2: mister Jordan James.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm big Jordan James.
Speaker 3: Guy.
Speaker 6: I think Oregon's done a fantastic job in evaluating running backs.
Speaker 6: And if you don't believe me, asked this front office.
Speaker 6: They interviewed their running backs coach for the running backs
Speaker 6: coach position here, Rashad samples he's a DFW DFW guy,
Speaker 6: but yeah, Oregon really talented player. He ran hard for
Speaker 6: the Ducks this last season. I like his set at
Speaker 6: five to ten two ten. I think that is like
Speaker 6: the perfect running back physique. I think if you take that,
Speaker 6: you put that on the field, I think it translates perfectly.
Speaker 4: He has some ability out of the backfield.
Speaker 6: This is a guy I think you could take in
Speaker 6: the third round at seventy six and you'd be comfortable
Speaker 6: with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whenever I watched him, I mean I looked at him.
Speaker 2: One of the more explosive backs in the country last year.
Speaker 2: Electrifying runner, twitchy movements, make it hard from first contact,
Speaker 2: runs bigger than his body type, uses every part of
Speaker 2: the field by Oregon. He was used in the red zone,
Speaker 2: he was used on the outside, used in the flat.
Speaker 2: He was receiver out of the backfield, not maybe not
Speaker 2: in every down back because he is smaller. He's not
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be kind of one of those
Speaker 2: mid round guys that you could pick up and give.
Speaker 3: Quality snaps to. But he's not a three down guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he punches up the hit, Like, I mean, he's smaller,
Speaker 5: but he's a he's pretty physical for it. Pound for pound,
Speaker 5: he's the more physical running back.
Speaker 3: They sub him out as a pass protector, Yeah they do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, as does a physical run it Like that's a.
Speaker 3: The running part of it is really really great.
Speaker 9: I think the strength of a runner is really you'll
Speaker 9: fight for extra yards all those stuff. If he has
Speaker 9: a weakness, sits out a pass protector and he doesn't
Speaker 9: have a great route tree, I'm sure he catches the
Speaker 9: ball better then, But do you watch Oregon.
Speaker 3: He does not run a lot of routes. But I
Speaker 3: worried about the pass protection part.
Speaker 5: Of it, which shot Shoty has mentioned before, Like that's
Speaker 5: that is a component that he wants to see out
Speaker 5: of the backs. He wants to see them be able
Speaker 5: to do different things in the passing.
Speaker 9: It might not be his fault, it might be the
Speaker 9: coordinator's fault there for the routes. But I didn't see
Speaker 9: a lot of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm looking at two. It was kind of
Speaker 2: an imperfect offensive line play up front.
Speaker 3: Two.
Speaker 2: I mean they had some good, good guys up front.
Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about Connor Lee out of the
Speaker 2: tackle spot. There were times where he would just get
Speaker 2: lost in the wash.
Speaker 3: The chunk player guy. Yeah, he would make it happen.
Speaker 3: I had him in the bottom half of the of
Speaker 3: the third, So third fourth is kind of right round.
Speaker 3: Where'd you have him, Brian? I believe in the fourth
Speaker 3: round about the same?
Speaker 2: All right, Now, this question has to do with what
Speaker 2: I want to talk about in the third segment. I
Speaker 2: want to leave a little bit of time here. The
Speaker 2: question was from Ty. He wants to know how has
Speaker 2: free agency and how have these trades kind of affected
Speaker 2: what could happen before the Cowboys at pick number twelve.
Speaker 3: So we're going to take our break.
Speaker 2: We're going to answer that question, kind of sneak in
Speaker 2: another Twitter on the twenty question and talk about how
Speaker 2: things can shake out from one to eleven to affect
Speaker 2: with the Cowboys may have available at pick twelve in
Speaker 2: front of them in this April's NFL Draft. More of
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Speaker 3: Brian brought us Mike Harris.
Speaker 2: That was vatch Lombardi whenever he's he's in the back
Speaker 2: talking about Fikel Williams.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what it was. And then we've got brought
Speaker 3: Bobby delp I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad you're with us. One
Speaker 3: of the update. This is what the draft pick situation
Speaker 3: looks like.
Speaker 2: Remember the Cowboys early this week received four competitory picks,
Speaker 2: three in.
Speaker 3: The fifth round, one in the sixth round. Well with
Speaker 3: the Kyrie.
Speaker 2: Elam and the Kenneth Murray deals, it's kind of flip
Speaker 2: flopped a little bit since then. So currently on the board,
Speaker 2: then this is this is what it is at the moment.
Speaker 2: It's probably going to change at some point soon because
Speaker 2: who knows if they're done or not. But they still
Speaker 2: have twelve forty four seventy six that has not changed
Speaker 2: in the first three rounds. Then you skip the fourth round,
Speaker 2: remember that pick is gone for Jonathan Mingo. But then
Speaker 2: you've got three fifth round picks still one forty nine,
Speaker 2: one seventy one, and one seventy fourth.
Speaker 3: You go into the sixth round.
Speaker 2: You've got two picks there to four to eleven two
Speaker 2: ze fourths which you got back from the Bills in
Speaker 2: the Kyri Elam trade, and then two picks in round
Speaker 2: seven two thirty seven overall acquire from the Titans and
Speaker 2: the Kenneth.
Speaker 3: Murray deal, and then two forty seven is what you
Speaker 3: have there in the seventh.
Speaker 6: Essentially you took one of your fifth round picks, yep,
Speaker 6: moved it back to the seventh.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what essentially, so you still have all those picks.
Speaker 2: You still have the darts at the dark board ten
Speaker 2: overall selections three fifths, two six, two sevens, and that's
Speaker 2: what you've got right now. Could possibly package those to
Speaker 2: try and move up and get back into the fourth
Speaker 2: that's definitely not out of the equation as well. But Bobby,
Speaker 2: when you look up in front of the Cowboys, with
Speaker 2: all of the free agent signings and movement and whatever
Speaker 2: has happened over the last seventy two to four days
Speaker 2: or seventy two hours four days or so, what is
Speaker 2: the biggest change in front of the Cowboys that could
Speaker 2: possibly affect what's available at twelve.
Speaker 5: So the biggest thing to me in the biggest wild
Speaker 5: card to me right now, that's a little concern to
Speaker 5: me is just how much San Francisco's been eviscerated. Yeah,
Speaker 5: because San Francisco's directly in front of you, and now
Speaker 5: San Francisco is just in a position where it's like, well,
Speaker 5: we could take anything we want, and so well, I
Speaker 5: think that they're in a spot where that's just going
Speaker 5: to be that's going to give you a difficult read.
Speaker 5: Like directly in front of you. You don't know what
Speaker 5: they could be looking at, or they could be looking
Speaker 5: at best player available. So if somebody happens to be
Speaker 5: sliding that you're hoping for, san Francisco could go, well,
Speaker 5: we could use that, we could use anything. Right now,
Speaker 5: let's jump on that.
Speaker 9: I would worry about San Francisco trade now for picks
Speaker 9: san Francisco. See that San Francisco seems like a team
Speaker 9: that's selling right now, and I would worry about them
Speaker 9: all of a sudden, Like people kind of get a
Speaker 9: read on Dallas. Say, say the gent does make it down,
Speaker 9: you know, say he gets past the Raiders and the Jets,
Speaker 9: and he gets past Chicago and all that, and now
Speaker 9: you're thinking, Okay, well, there's there's a player we're focusing
Speaker 9: in on, and somebody just behind behind you is like, listen,
Speaker 9: we see what's going on. That's the that's the best
Speaker 9: player on the board, health, character, ability, boom, that's our guy,
Speaker 9: and they get ahead of Dallas. There's there's teams that
Speaker 9: have done that to Dallas a couple of times in
Speaker 9: drafts where they've had like all of a sudden the
Speaker 9: guy that was on the board for them or how
Speaker 9: it was looked, and then they and then they get
Speaker 9: traded in front. People have done a pretty good job,
Speaker 9: and I think what happens is, you know, to be
Speaker 9: honest with you, Dallas's.
Speaker 3: Draft has covered so much.
Speaker 9: These teams have kind of figured out watched the Draft show,
Speaker 9: figure out what's kind of and I'm serious, it is,
Speaker 9: I'm serious.
Speaker 3: They they're they're this team is covered so extensively in
Speaker 3: the draft.
Speaker 9: I think people in these pro departments and draft and
Speaker 9: college scouting departments get a gauge of what's going on
Speaker 9: maybe with the Cowboys, and they're able to make really
Speaker 9: good educated guesses of who they might take and and
Speaker 9: you could kind of say, hey, we got to get
Speaker 9: up ahead of that if.
Speaker 3: We want that guy.
Speaker 8: Do you think that's why two years ago, whatever it was,
Speaker 8: the whole Michael Mayer thing came out, Sure, and the
Speaker 8: Bills are like, oh, well, they're obviously looking for tight ans.
Speaker 8: Let's jump and go get Kim K. But yeah, I
Speaker 8: don't think the Cowboys were looking at kingk for it, Like,
Speaker 8: do you think that that's wild?
Speaker 9: Well, and then and then Dallas Goddard was that way too.
Speaker 9: If you remember the FLA, they Philly believed that Dallas
Speaker 9: was going to take you know, and that was just
Speaker 9: from Witting.
Speaker 5: Witten were hiring that weekend sure, because they just naturally simple,
Speaker 5: they must be going for Goddard. So we got it
Speaker 5: week But I think that.
Speaker 3: We do a really good job. And I'm not doing
Speaker 3: this palle in the back.
Speaker 9: I'm just saying we covered this team in a way
Speaker 9: that if you watch these shows, you could kind of
Speaker 9: figure out.
Speaker 3: What they need, you know.
Speaker 9: I mean you could look at your own you could
Speaker 9: watch your own tape, but like if you my point is,
Speaker 9: San Francisco is to me a very dangerous team to
Speaker 9: have in front of you the whole day because of
Speaker 9: their They're probably looking at this thing the most famous
Speaker 9: trade they ever made Bill Walsh. He took he had
Speaker 9: a very high page, just kept going back and back
Speaker 9: and back and back and just picking up picks and
Speaker 9: that was the That was the draft in the eighties
Speaker 9: that got them propelled to their Super Bowl teams. This
Speaker 9: this team has a hit if.
Speaker 5: You look at who's been active ahead of them in
Speaker 5: free agency so far and where that could potentially shift things.
Speaker 5: Caroline has been very active in the secondary. They've added
Speaker 5: a bunch of different pieces there. They just resigned JC Horn,
Speaker 5: they added Trayvon Merrick. I think there was another corner
Speaker 5: that they added in free agency, the Raiders getting Geno Smith.
Speaker 5: That has raised some questions. It seems like of people
Speaker 5: who are covering things with the Raiders that that's where
Speaker 5: Genty goes now that they just look at and say, well,
Speaker 5: we can go Genty. We're solid with Gino. Especially with
Speaker 5: the Giants, end up saying they're not comfortable with whatever
Speaker 5: they settle on in quarterback and free agency, whether that's
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers or somebody else, because you would imagine number
Speaker 5: one will be cam Ward, whether that's so the Titans
Speaker 5: or whoever goes up and gets him number three. At
Speaker 5: that point, you would think Giants could very easily go
Speaker 5: Shador Sanders. Of course, there's also the Dane Brugler talked
Speaker 5: about it. Dane said, coming out of Indy, he was like,
Speaker 5: there's a chance should or sitting there when you're picking
Speaker 5: at twelve.
Speaker 6: I was going to say, I want to prepare people
Speaker 6: for that conversation because it's a conversation we're gonna have
Speaker 6: to have on this show. If Shador is there at twelve,
Speaker 6: we're gonna have to have the conversation. Not gonna happen,
Speaker 6: but I just want to prepare people for the conversation.
Speaker 14: Look at him being there, him being there, or being there,
Speaker 14: him being okay, Because you look at Cleveland at two,
Speaker 14: they're hosting Russell Wilson for a visit today.
Speaker 6: The Giants looking at Aaron Rodgers really hard. Vegas went
Speaker 6: and got Geno Smith. New York Jets went and got
Speaker 6: Justin Field and seem okay with it. You go back
Speaker 6: and everyone else has got their quarterback. Yeah, so I
Speaker 6: mean it's it's Brown's.
Speaker 5: Browns also went and got Kenny Pickett too, so they've
Speaker 5: got Picket Watson their host and visits. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 5: there's there's a chance that he could fall down there
Speaker 5: unless the Giants just say we're going this direction.
Speaker 3: I don't know that.
Speaker 5: I mean, one of the big things is Jacksonville. It
Speaker 5: seems like did a lot to kind of address offensive
Speaker 5: line as well, So that was kind of a thought
Speaker 5: at one point Will Campbell could go there. So if
Speaker 5: Will Campbell's not going to Jacksonville at five and then
Speaker 5: you see okay six, the Raiders maybe take somebody else.
Speaker 5: Now you're starting to talk about is their chance Will
Speaker 5: Campbell gets pushed down a little bit, and you might
Speaker 5: be in play for that, And that's a question.
Speaker 6: Watch the Texans with Will Campbell. I could see them
Speaker 6: jumping up really high.
Speaker 3: To go Laramy Tunseel you can maybe reach.
Speaker 5: I don't think Houston views Campbell as a tackle though,
Speaker 5: I think I think it would be a guard. I
Speaker 5: think Houston thinks of him as a guard.
Speaker 3: Which they just traded their guard. So that you've you've
Speaker 3: got some movement there. Now.
Speaker 2: The Sanders conversation is intriguing because remember the backup quarterback
Speaker 2: situation is still unsolved here in Dallas. You've got that connection,
Speaker 2: You've got the thought process. Oh, I mean, I'm like
Speaker 2: you said, it's a conversation that has to be had
Speaker 2: because at least when you look at the breadcrumbs of
Speaker 2: what has happened in the front office before, and Johnny
Speaker 2: Manziel is the first thing that comes to mind.
Speaker 3: They didn't make that pick, but there was somebody in
Speaker 3: the front office.
Speaker 2: That wanted to make that pick, and we just talked
Speaker 2: about it during his retirement press conference. Is Zach Martin
Speaker 2: and what it was with Johnny Manzel no chance that
Speaker 2: this that's a legitimate conversation upstairs.
Speaker 6: The fact that they did, he'd be on a rookie contract,
Speaker 6: it would not expire, or he'd be going into his
Speaker 6: fifth year after Dak Prescott's contract is already out.
Speaker 4: It makes no sense at all. I'm just preparing people.
Speaker 2: Who see it last year with Atlanta doing the same thing,
Speaker 2: they went and signed Kirk Cousins. Now, separate situation. It
Speaker 2: wasn't the homegrown talent, it wasn't the guy. That's fair,
Speaker 2: but Atlanta had.
Speaker 3: Just signed kirk Cousins to a multi million dollar.
Speaker 2: Huge contract, Like how dumb that decision is then turned
Speaker 2: around to Michael Pennix and drafted him to ten.
Speaker 5: You're also looking at because I mean, here here's the
Speaker 5: only either. Here's the only problem too is if you're
Speaker 5: looking at that, it's like, well, maybe you can have
Speaker 5: a trade down center.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like if Santa is on a ball, nobody's gonna
Speaker 3: come are.
Speaker 5: Exactly exactly what and maybe Indy comes up for it.
Speaker 5: But like outside of that, you look behind it, it's
Speaker 5: Miami they just paid too, It's Atlanta. They've got Pennix, Arizon, Arizona.
Speaker 5: I I don't see Shador as a Pittsburgh Mike Tomlin
Speaker 5: type of player. Maybe, but I just I don't think
Speaker 5: that that's a I don't know that he would look
Speaker 5: at that and go that's.
Speaker 3: Why would I had twelve take Jackson Dart over him?
Speaker 5: Over? Yeah, you have Jackson Dard ahead of Shadore.
Speaker 9: I mean, I just, I mean I have not studied
Speaker 9: the quarterbacks extensively, but why when I keep watching old
Speaker 9: miss tape, I kind of feel nothing to kids Andrews.
Speaker 9: I kind of feel like Jackson Dart might be a
Speaker 9: better player.
Speaker 5: I mean, so it's interesting if you look at the odds,
Speaker 5: the the odds that Vegas places on your number one picks,
Speaker 5: not that any of us would take part in that,
Speaker 5: because that would go against NFL rules, but the odds
Speaker 5: that are put out there on it cam Ward is
Speaker 5: the overall favorite to be the number one pick. Then
Speaker 5: it's like Travis Hunter Rabdul Carter and so you get
Speaker 5: to the seventh best odds to go number one is
Speaker 5: Jackson Dart and it's all like they're astronomical odds. But
Speaker 5: it's because teams so valued quarterbacks and will go all right,
Speaker 5: there's a chance somebody could fall in love and so
Speaker 5: momentum builds and you could have that. So I mean,
Speaker 5: dark could be somebody that goes up. I don't I
Speaker 5: heard more and more out there while we were in
Speaker 5: Indy that it does seem like there's some teams that
Speaker 5: really like Shador Sanders and having as the number one quarterback.
Speaker 5: It sounds like there's a lot more people out there
Speaker 5: who maybe there's a random you know, executive or a
Speaker 5: random team that's like, we like Tyler schuckmore than s
Speaker 5: or we like Jackson Dart more than Shaud, or there's
Speaker 5: there's not a consistent feel about him from team to team.
Speaker 5: An evaluator to evaluate.
Speaker 4: Tyler Shuggs gonna get a GM fired.
Speaker 2: What is what is up with the hype around him
Speaker 2: right now out of Louisville, and again, quarterbacks are one
Speaker 2: of the last positions I look at to y'all might have.
Speaker 6: A better perspective than me. I think it's the testing.
Speaker 6: I think it's the combine performance. You pair that with
Speaker 6: a really damn good agent, and I think I think
Speaker 6: it's it's why Tyler Shuggs gotten a lot of love,
Speaker 6: I think.
Speaker 4: But I have Kyle McCord over this guy. Yep, I
Speaker 4: have a hold.
Speaker 6: Let me go back to my board if it would
Speaker 6: load for me, Jackson Dart shoot, I have Dylan Gabriel
Speaker 6: over this guy. I mean, I'm Quinn yours, I'm Riley Leonard.
Speaker 5: There was a I mean, I mean that Tyler Tyler Shuk.
Speaker 2: I'll stand on the table for Riley Leonard as like
Speaker 2: a Day three guy in the seventh, But I don't
Speaker 2: have him. Yeah, I mean that's where I have done right.
Speaker 3: Now, you know? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, probably?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 3: What is it another other other?
Speaker 8: Like on my board, I don't sixes and sevens or whatever.
Speaker 8: I just go to fifth round and as everybody else.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's fair.
Speaker 5: Tyler Shuck Uh. Tyler Shuck enrolled at Oregon before the
Speaker 5: Cowboys drafted Layton vander USh, and Layton vander USh has
Speaker 5: now retired, and so that's how long ago and college.
Speaker 3: But the thing was, I thought you were about to
Speaker 3: say the Cowboys became an organiza. No no, no, no, no, no, no, shut.
Speaker 5: But I mean, he's he's going to be twenty six soon.
Speaker 5: He's an older quarterback. I think the thing with Shuck
Speaker 5: is the NFL has because he's been in college for
Speaker 5: so long. There was a time three years ago where
Speaker 5: some of these scouting agencies, uh that the NFL used
Speaker 5: their services, had looked at it. He's they they really.
Speaker 3: Liked him a few years ago, like Blessed National.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like they they thought really highly of him at
Speaker 5: one point, and so I think that the league also
Speaker 5: had a high opinion of his upside at one point.
Speaker 5: He dealt with injuries, he had other things happened. So
Speaker 5: I also think that there's this kind of long standing
Speaker 5: love affair that some of the league has had with
Speaker 5: him for a while that that also might explain why
Speaker 5: it's finally coming to fruition this guy that they've they've
Speaker 5: had some eyes on for a few years.
Speaker 6: Broken collar bones, shoulder surgery, broken fibula, he's missed a
Speaker 6: ton of time during his college career.
Speaker 4: He's got the size six five two thirty and I.
Speaker 3: Think that's probably read out over like twelve seasons.
Speaker 4: Exactly.
Speaker 6: It's not that bad when you take that context in.
Speaker 6: He's got the size six five two thirty. I understand
Speaker 6: the appeal. I'm just it's not for me, not my
Speaker 6: cup of tea.
Speaker 2: It's kind of a weird conversation, the shug element of it.
Speaker 2: Any other spots to highlight between one through eleven?
Speaker 5: Uh, you know, yeah, I think when we're just looking
Speaker 5: at this, that's the bigger questions right now are some
Speaker 5: of these active teams like Jacksonville and Carolina, Like how
Speaker 5: does that potentially shift things?
Speaker 3: New New England.
Speaker 5: New England has had some so New England has signed
Speaker 5: it like a baling team to me, New England. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So for a long time, the popular mock pick to
Speaker 5: New England was Ted McMillan and that kind of cooled
Speaker 5: a couple months ago, and.
Speaker 3: Then it became Graham.
Speaker 5: Graham was a really popular one. They just signed Milton Williams, right,
Speaker 5: They added Tonga, who's not a three technique, but they've
Speaker 5: added to the defensive line and so I kind of
Speaker 5: wonder do they want to keep doing that with Carter?
Speaker 5: Does uh does Mike Rabel sit there and fall in
Speaker 5: love with somebody like Jayalen Walker? You know, I'm I'm
Speaker 5: gonna be interested, see that. I know that Mike Rabel
Speaker 5: for the old school mentality, he gets hit with a lot.
Speaker 5: The the second things really turned for him in Tennessee
Speaker 5: was when they traded aj Brown and he didn't want
Speaker 5: to And so I do wonder if he would prioritize
Speaker 5: somebody like McMillan, because I can't figure out why people
Speaker 5: are falling out of love with McMillan the way that
Speaker 5: feels like Kyle Hamilton at receiver to me, where it's
Speaker 5: like people have been no like Kyle Hamilton what he
Speaker 5: was in the draft a couple of years ago, wherever
Speaker 5: you said that's a top five talent. Somehow he just
Speaker 5: kept sliding down where it's almost like people got fatigued
Speaker 5: hearing about him for so long and overthought him right
Speaker 5: that that eventually they I wonder if ted McMillan's sort
Speaker 5: of the same way. People are just starting to overthink
Speaker 5: him a little bit and and are not They're losing
Speaker 5: sight of what kind of a great player he is,
Speaker 5: which is, to me, one of the three best players
Speaker 5: in the draft.
Speaker 6: Signing Mac, how does that deter New England from going
Speaker 6: and getting a guy like Tea Mack.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't got if it was my team. I sure yeah,
Speaker 5: I sure hope they wouldn't say we got Mac Collins,
Speaker 5: we don't need Ted McMillan. But potentially, I mean they again,
Speaker 5: New England's one of these teams that they need everything.
Speaker 5: I think anybody who's clearly in a period of change,
Speaker 5: like San Francisco is or has a new staff is
Speaker 5: always a threat ahead of you. So a New Orleans
Speaker 5: is also you don't know how they're gonna go. Well,
Speaker 5: we look like we have somebody here, but our new
Speaker 5: staff doesn't like that guy, so we need somebody.
Speaker 6: It was like the Anthony Edwards quote in the playoffs
Speaker 6: last year. They got Kevin Durant, we got Josh McDaniels.
Speaker 3: All a quick.
Speaker 4: I would bring in an NBA quote at least once
Speaker 4: every show, Jade McDaniels, You'll find a way you find Josh.
Speaker 4: That's what threw me off of the right. It was
Speaker 4: on this Patriot Talk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, getting right back into it.
Speaker 2: And remember new head coaches kind of all scattered throughout
Speaker 2: one through eleven anyway, So it's gonna be tough to tell.
Speaker 2: Just like you said, who they're gonna fall in love
Speaker 2: with what these stabs like, we've got a new head
Speaker 2: coach to deal with too. In that same kind of elements,
Speaker 2: it's tough to really see exactly what one through tel
Speaker 2: twelve is gonna look like.
Speaker 3: Bobby A question of course. So you're right, you're my
Speaker 3: You're my? What the league says guys on last Draft show?
Speaker 8: It seems that we're in different places about Josh Simmons, Right,
Speaker 8: what's the league saying now that his knee is healthy,
Speaker 8: Like is he going to be a dude that teams
Speaker 8: are looking at the possibly be like a top ten guy?
Speaker 8: Or is he still going to be in that late
Speaker 8: first conversation like he won?
Speaker 5: I mean, I think I think that I don't think
Speaker 5: he's top ten at all. That I haven't heard anybody
Speaker 5: from that the most. In fact, I've heard more, not
Speaker 5: just about the injury. I've just heard more split opinions
Speaker 5: on him, where some people think like, oh, that's the
Speaker 5: first round tackling some others who are just a little
Speaker 5: bit more. Now that's more like a second guy to me.
Speaker 8: I think that's so strange because I think he's the
Speaker 8: best offensive lineman his whole damn draft.
Speaker 3: And I think that's weird. Best.
Speaker 8: I think he's the best old lineman his whole damn draft.
Speaker 8: I think he's I think he's ahead of Johnson Banks.
Speaker 8: I think he's had all those guys I like, like
Speaker 8: as a left tackle.
Speaker 3: This is coming from a Tyler booker stain.
Speaker 8: I love me some Tyler book but just watching the
Speaker 8: film on on On Simmons, like how he moves, like technique.
Speaker 8: He's a run game guy, pushing people in the run game,
Speaker 8: great pass block. I mean, yeah, he got hurt, and
Speaker 8: if we're gonna use the hurt situation, right, I get
Speaker 8: it if we're using hurt, But if you get a
Speaker 8: tap on your show to say, hey, his knee is fine,
Speaker 8: I'm thinking his knee is fine as like a Will
Speaker 8: Johnson forty four us like a good boy like that
Speaker 8: should boost him in my personal opinion. Sure, And I
Speaker 8: just saw nothing but Dominanta for him this year, like
Speaker 8: last year, you know, twenty twenty three, ta you know,
Speaker 8: growing pains or whatever. He had to kind of make
Speaker 8: some adjustments or whatever. But until he but up uptil
Speaker 8: he got hurt, I'm thinking he beating the hell out
Speaker 8: of people. And I'm listening to people talk about Josh Simmons, All, yeah,
Speaker 8: he'll go in the twenties or something. Yeah, maybe a
Speaker 8: second round guy. I think Simmons is a dude.
Speaker 5: He's a classic tackle too. I think in a draft
Speaker 5: where you kind of wonder if some of these tackles
Speaker 5: are better guards, like Banks and Campbell and stuff, Simmons
Speaker 5: is like, that's a legitimate tackle. And then so anybody
Speaker 5: who wants a clean, I want to clean tackle prospect.
Speaker 5: Depending on how you feel about where he's at, then
Speaker 5: he would be the top I would imagine.
Speaker 8: I think if if he was in last year's draft,
Speaker 8: I think we'll be like, Okay, well there's all, and
Speaker 8: there's there's all.
Speaker 3: You know, there's.
Speaker 8: Um O Lou and there's these. I think he'll be
Speaker 8: like the fourth guy in the list. I think he'll
Speaker 8: be right ahead of Latham. I think he'll be right
Speaker 8: ahead of Memes. I think that highly of him. And
Speaker 8: if you can take that dude and put him in
Speaker 8: this draft where we don't have a lot of faith
Speaker 8: in the dudes in this draft. I think he'd be
Speaker 8: a slam dunk top ten fifteen type dude. But I'm
Speaker 8: just not hearing people talk about him like that. I
Speaker 8: think that's a that's a that's a little wild. I'm
Speaker 8: not gonna call it nonsense because I respect everybody, but
Speaker 8: I think that's nice. I think he has some fantastic film.
Speaker 8: I'm not going to I think I think he's a dog.
Speaker 3: Please go ahead.
Speaker 4: This is This is a very strange draft.
Speaker 6: And I know you've talked about this, Brian, about how
Speaker 6: many players are coming in, especially at the top, that
Speaker 6: are hurting not only corner position, but we're talking about
Speaker 6: tackles as well. We'll talked about a couple of running
Speaker 6: backs as well, and then we're also talking about a
Speaker 6: lot of guys where it's like check the twenty three tape.
Speaker 6: Because of twenty three tape, you see the ceiling there.
Speaker 6: This is a difficult draft to evaluate, and I think, uh,
Speaker 6: anybody that puts in the time and the effort in
Speaker 6: this draft, kudos to you. Kudos everybody on this show.
Speaker 6: This is This is gonna be a tough one. I
Speaker 6: think there's gonna be some misses in this draft in
Speaker 6: the first round for sure. And I also think there's
Speaker 6: gonna be some random hits because you see a twenty
Speaker 6: four tape and you're like, eh, but there's, you know,
Speaker 6: maybe some bright spots earlier in a guy's career that
Speaker 6: shines in the NFL. So this is an interesting class.
Speaker 6: I will Josh Simmons is a perfect example of that.
Speaker 5: One last thought on Simmons or one last opinion from
Speaker 5: und league on Simons. I do know that there's one
Speaker 5: team that thinks Grant's better, Charles Grant.
Speaker 3: William and mayor Josh Simmons. Team suck at draft.
Speaker 5: I'm not agreeing.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, he yo be, heyo be. Put the
Speaker 3: camera on me, please be, please, please be. Okay, teams
Speaker 3: suck at draft and I ain't trying to get none
Speaker 3: of it. That's gonna do it for us here on
Speaker 3: the draft. Make that a short.
Speaker 8: Put that on Twitter, please yeah, clip it, William and
Speaker 8: Mary please, Charles Grant, that's funny, doesn't even have enough
Speaker 8: class to show up to the Seni Bowl, please really?
Speaker 8: And Josh Simmons, mall and big ten talent. Charles Grand
Speaker 8: whooping the damn Towson Keys, please get please about it.
Speaker 4: He's like giving them hugs to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a little grabby at times.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 3: It's just part of it, all right.
Speaker 2: For Nick Harris, for Brian broad As, Fox Lombardi, Bobby Belt,
Speaker 2: Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman saying so
Speaker 2: long from the Draft show.
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