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Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room

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Speaker 1: for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the

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Speaker 1: confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star Infrasco. And now

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Speaker 1: your host, Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 2: Today is Thursday, March thirteenth, twenty twenty five, and we

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Speaker 2: are forty two days away from the NFL Draft in

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Speaker 2: Green Bay, Wisconsin. As we are officially six weeks out today,

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Speaker 2: a month and a half.

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Speaker 3: It's a sprint.

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Speaker 4: Let's get it.

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Speaker 2: It's a forty yard dash. Now, forty two yard dash.

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Speaker 2: I guess what's sure will talking about it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Forty two yard dash?

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Speaker 6: What do you what?

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Speaker 5: A Barry Church run in the forty forty two?

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Speaker 3: Hey, that's a great forty two. He was in the force.

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Speaker 5: I think it was like four sevens or.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, to Toledo or six nine that nine, Oh, he.

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Speaker 5: Was meant to be in Dallas. Then all right, what

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Speaker 5: is that supposed for six nine area code? Yes, there's

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Speaker 5: a four six nine And you have to come on, Kyle,

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Speaker 5: there's a four six nine area code.

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Speaker 4: It's like the Frisco area code for.

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Speaker 5: Six nine nine two one four.

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Speaker 4: Wow, come on, Kyle, this this Waco guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, baby all day, every day, two five four, all right,

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Speaker 2: welcome in. We've got Nick Harris, Brian brought us watch

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Speaker 2: Lombardi with Bobby belt on, Kyle Yeomans with Chris Beam

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Speaker 2: and company in the back, putting up some great film

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Speaker 2: as we go along in this show. I want to

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Speaker 2: talk about kind of the the last twenty four hours

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Speaker 2: or so, the Cowboys front office was pretty busy, kind

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Speaker 2: of maneuvering some whatever you want to look at it

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Speaker 2: depth pieces. You you can look at it as maybe

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Speaker 2: potential starters.

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Speaker 3: Around the way.

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Speaker 2: A couple of trades, one of which are actually a

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Speaker 2: couple of which that were guys that were talked about

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Speaker 2: on this show back whenever they were coming out of

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Speaker 2: the NFL Draft, Guys like Kye or Elam who's coming

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Speaker 2: out of floor was a first round pick in his

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Speaker 2: own right. Solomon Thomas again first round pick, third overall

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Speaker 2: on the draft show, talked about him quite a bit

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Speaker 2: whenever he was making his way out as a defensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: And then Kenneth Murray was a linebacker out of Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: that we talked about. The trades all happening and the

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Speaker 2: signings all happening over these last forty eight hours and Nick,

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Speaker 2: when you look at kind of the way that the

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Speaker 2: roster construction is gone, does it affect anything so far

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Speaker 2: on what is happening in terms of the NFL Draft

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Speaker 2: or can we kind of get an idea and read

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Speaker 2: between the lines here of what the Cowboys front offices think?

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Speaker 6: Yes, certainly, I mean free agency is kind of your

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Speaker 6: layup for what you need in the draft.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 6: Granted, when you're looking at this team and the moves

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Speaker 6: it's more so addressing the depth issues. In my opinion,

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Speaker 6: you look at the corner position going in getting kayri

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Speaker 6: amanio or a warrier in a sense where he's that

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Speaker 6: look at Kenneth Murray and Jack Sanborn, adding much needed

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Speaker 6: depth to that linebacker room. Not only do you have

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Speaker 6: is also young. So bringing in two guys who have

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Speaker 6: been in the league for a cup of Tea. It definitely.

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Speaker 6: It definitely will help that room out as well.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 6: I think we talked about Javonte Williams on Tuesday, but

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Speaker 6: I think on the offensive side of the ball, there's

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Speaker 6: still probably some need for depth, and specifically at running back,

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Speaker 6: specifically at receiver. So that's where you start to look

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Speaker 6: in the draft maybe a little bit more. And you

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Speaker 6: still need a lot of depth at corner. One guy

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Speaker 3: Does it change anything at linebacker or corner for you

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Speaker 8: This is my thing, right and I don't want to

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Speaker 8: talk crazy about people while I'm in their building, you know,

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Speaker 8: I just you know, if this is all about depth,

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Speaker 8: then perfect. This is about the guys that are at

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Speaker 8: the bottom of the roster. Cool, But I have an

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Speaker 8: odd feeling that in about two months we're going to

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Speaker 8: We could play with Kennan Mery linebacker right now. We

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Speaker 8: I don't want that to be the situation. I don't

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Speaker 8: want And I say us because I'm more fan. I

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Speaker 8: don't work here. But when I say like the Cowboys, right,

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Speaker 8: I don't. I don't want them to be like, all right,

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Speaker 8: we're just trying to fix this bottom of the RUSS.

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Speaker 8: I think most of Cowboy fans want them to fix

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Speaker 8: I mean you you still got a draft in me

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Speaker 8: and Brian just had this convo last night. It's like

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Speaker 8: the pressure that's on the draft, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 8: Like if this is a like you want to hit one, two,

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Speaker 8: years where okay, well let's develop our third round guy

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Speaker 8: Like you need all your guys on deck. And I

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Speaker 8: think this is about as good as the offseason acquisitions

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Speaker 8: it's gonna get. I still think we're gonna lan on

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Speaker 8: draft and we're gonna fill out the rest of an

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Speaker 3: Just my personal opinion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think there's a lot of Cowboys fans

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Speaker 2: out there that feel that way, Brian, But I just

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Speaker 2: in talking with those around the building and kind of

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Speaker 2: the general feel I think they're they're addressing eleven through

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Speaker 3: We've had that conversation before. Right when you look at.

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Speaker 2: One through ten on this Cowboys roster and you stack

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Speaker 2: you feel pretty good about what you have one through ten.

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Speaker 2: The Micah's and the CDs and the Dacks and the

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Speaker 2: But it's eleven through fifty three. They're addressing that right now?

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's what they want to do.

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Speaker 4: I'll continue with you on one point. I mean to

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Speaker 4: cut you off.

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Speaker 6: Sure, I think these moves have more so been addressing

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Speaker 6: thirty through fifty three.

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Speaker 3: Okay, they need.

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Speaker 6: The eleven through thirty now, like they still got to

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Speaker 6: legitimate starters who could be a legitimate starter, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: Kenneth Murray can be a starter for you, But I mean,

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Speaker 6: instincts are going to have to take a giant step

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Speaker 6: of help that. I think Jack Sanborn's a really good player.

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Speaker 6: I think he's gonna end up being a pretty good

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Speaker 6: in the draft, in the first round, second round, third round,

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Speaker 6: and you hope those guys, but like you said, you

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Speaker 6: don't really have an opportunity to let those guys develop.

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Speaker 6: You have to have those guys hit right now.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I tell you couldn't have another year where you

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Speaker 9: let talent walk out the building. They couldn't have back

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Speaker 9: to me, it's more about, like what Nick was talking about,

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Speaker 9: I think, replacing those guys and hopefully you get something

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Speaker 9: think that Solomon Thomas could be a really good player

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Speaker 9: here as a three technique as well. So I am

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Speaker 9: very very hopeful for some of those additions. But yeah,

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Speaker 9: to me, this was about trying not to just completely

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Speaker 9: those teams that were that were twelve and five though

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Speaker 3: Years, And I like the way you put it.

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Speaker 2: The thirty through fifty three is perfect because, like you said,

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Speaker 2: you're not going to put Solomon Thomas in the one

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Speaker 2: if they have a great season. Where do you feel

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Speaker 2: like they can add that eleven through thirty right now? Bobby,

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Speaker 2: when you're looking at this roster, is there anything out

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Speaker 2: there from a free agent standpoint, a trade standpoint that

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Speaker 2: you can say that's a spot where they have the

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Speaker 2: capital to do so.

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Speaker 5: Like the one area where I look at right now

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Speaker 5: and I say, I don't think they have a starting

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Speaker 5: I don't think I don't think they've got a two

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Speaker 5: out some hope and say Dallas gets more involved in

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Speaker 5: free agency than they typically have been around the high

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Speaker 5: still has not been completely picked over in free agency

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Speaker 5: right now. There's still plenty of them out there who

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Speaker 5: morning on one of five through the fan. To me,

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Speaker 5: it's Dallas has to get comfortable with pain and uncomfortable price,

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Speaker 5: or get comfortable with not having guys come in here

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Speaker 5: and fill those roles because you're going to have to

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Speaker 5: then just lean completely on the draft. So to me, receiver,

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Speaker 5: do you want to stand around and see, okay, what

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Speaker 5: does the market play out like for steff On Digs

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Speaker 5: Mary Cooper, whoever it may be. Do you want to

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Speaker 5: you come into a range where all right, we take

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Speaker 5: a little bit of a step up from discomfort, you

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Speaker 5: take a little bit of a step down from where

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Speaker 5: you wanted to be, and we can meet in the middle.

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Speaker 5: Can you go find the Randall Cobbs signing from a

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Speaker 5: couple of years ago, but you're probably gonna have to

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Speaker 5: pay more than that just because that was one year,

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Speaker 5: five million, five six years.

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Speaker 4: Ago, or the Brandon Cooks trade.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, So you need to go find something like that.

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Speaker 5: That's the biggest area where right now I say, I

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Speaker 5: need a contingency there. You've got your contingencies in other areas,

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Speaker 5: and that's seems to always be the Moniker from the

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Speaker 5: Cowboys and free agencies. Contingencies for you up pick best

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Speaker 5: player available when you get to the draft. Receiver is

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Speaker 5: an area where that don't know that they've got contingencies

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Speaker 5: right now?

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Speaker 4: Do you still need another one at corner two?

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Speaker 8: Yeah? Why do you guys think the ghost and thing

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Speaker 8: didn't work out? Because you know, could it be like, well,

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Speaker 8: he costs too much money, We don't want to bring

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Speaker 8: Ghost and baby. You think maybe ghost and didn't want

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Speaker 8: to come back. Do you think we're gonna lean on

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Speaker 8: I'm sick of shooting dice on getting better. I'm sick

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Speaker 9: I wonder if they really misevaluated where some of these

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Speaker 3: You know? See that's the that's the and Golston six

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Speaker 3: See that's I'm saying.

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Speaker 9: I think that they I think that they went into

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Speaker 9: They didn't expect Lewis to make ten million dollars and Nick,

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Speaker 9: So that's I I wonder if they got lost in there,

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Speaker 2: Jordan Lewis, huh, Chauncey Golston. Yeah, the guys that we

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Speaker 5: Okay, literally the first four names we named, they're all

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Speaker 3: Could be that.

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Speaker 5: It could be that you just you're having some some

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Speaker 3: That's that's very very good point.

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Speaker 7: And so.

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Speaker 4: So Logical has two more out there in Israel, Mkwuamu

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Speaker 5: Yes, and so look, I'm gonna rep in half of

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Speaker 3: That they didn't want it, They didn't want to fight

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Speaker 5: I think Lewis they wanted to fight for I think Lewis,

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Speaker 5: I think Jordan Lewis got more than they thought. I

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Speaker 3: That's where I thought.

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Speaker 9: I thought that they misevaluated the money that some of

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Speaker 4: I think Dowdell.

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Speaker 5: H I think they thought Dowbell probably could have gotten

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Speaker 5: I don't know what the incentives are. It makes me

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Speaker 5: wonder if the incentives they weren't happy with. They thought, Okay,

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Speaker 5: But you know, I think Dowdell was a guy who

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Speaker 5: think they went to Javonte Williams thinking yeah, and that

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Speaker 4: I agree.

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Speaker 6: I think another part of the conversation at running back is, Okay,

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Speaker 6: if you're bringing back Doubt or are you bringing him

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Speaker 6: as an RB two, what does that look like? And

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Speaker 6: if you're bringing him back as an RB one, which

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Speaker 6: bringing him back as an RB one, then you're drafting

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Speaker 6: an RB two in a really deep running back class.

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Speaker 4: Or you can go get a guy like Javonte Williams, who.

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Speaker 6: Was okay being your RB two, he's approven RB two

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Speaker 6: receiving a pass blob, and then you go get a

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Speaker 6: damn good RB one in this draft. I think that's

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Speaker 6: probably part of the thought process as well. It's just like, hey,

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Speaker 6: this guy, he's played four years, he's got experience. Yes,

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Speaker 6: he had that one injury, but he looks like he's

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Speaker 6: bounced back from that. He's one of the best best

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Speaker 6: pass catching backs, one of the best pass blocking backs

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Speaker 6: in this class.

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Speaker 3: That's true.

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Speaker 4: You pair that with an RB one in the draft

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Speaker 4: and let it roll.

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Speaker 2: Well, that might be why the market value is different

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Speaker 2: because teams are looking ahead and they're seeing the twenty

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Speaker 2: get guys here that are going to do what Legal

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Speaker 2: Doubtell can bring you the team.

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Speaker 5: And I don't know whenever I think of Doubtle, like

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Speaker 5: I think there are questions for this organization. They've seen

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Speaker 5: violent running Stot's like, Okay, how much do we anticipate

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Speaker 9: Your boards, give me a guy that you match with

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Speaker 3: There's there's there's a speed level on those guys. I

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Speaker 9: Thinking that, you know I love what you're doing with

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Speaker 3: It's got juice in the same time.

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Speaker 6: Harvey's got breakaway speed. Burchard Smith, although I think he's

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Speaker 3: He plays fast too, Yeah, he does. And these are

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Speaker 2: Later round guys. I mean you're not hitting gent Or

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Speaker 6: So what why what other of these Ohio State backs

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Speaker 4: Talking about specific yeah, yeah, other than running back.

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Speaker 9: It's it's the it's the Raider thing.

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Speaker 4: Starting to free up.

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Speaker 2: a different area because we've talked about Javonte Williams, pairing

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Speaker 2: him with somebody to replace Rico Dwell, talked about Solomon

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Speaker 2: Thomas and Peyton Turner as possible replacements for Chauncey Golson

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Speaker 2: on the defensive line. But the biggest name and the

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Speaker 2: number one name that the Cowboys are going to have

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Speaker 2: to replace is at nickel corner. Where are we going

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Speaker 2: in this NFL draft when you look at the board

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Speaker 2: top to bottom to try and replace Jordan Lewis and

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Speaker 2: what he brought to the table. Is there a starting

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Speaker 2: caliber Nickel that's out there in the draft that you

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Speaker 2: would be comfortable using one of your early premium picks on.

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Speaker 8: I'll tell you what Man barn is there. But do

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Speaker 8: you draft Baron at twelve to just play nickel forty?

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Speaker 8: That's the question, you know, because I think he can

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Speaker 8: do fine just as an outside guy. But you know,

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Speaker 8: and then also too, just a Cowboys talk, like how

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Speaker 8: far are we from just saying, all right, Bland, we've

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Speaker 8: been We've been having this conversations about you being nickel guy.

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Speaker 8: Just get another outside guy that you trust for real,

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Speaker 8: and we could just take Bland back to where he

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Speaker 8: grew up, you know.

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Speaker 5: And you know, yeah, I wonder if if they get

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Speaker 5: if they feel like they're in a pinch, like I

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Speaker 5: do think on the free agent market, they're in a

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Speaker 5: pinch right now if they wanted to try and address

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Speaker 5: Nickel there there's not a ton of options, and corner

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Speaker 5: has gone Cincinnati. That Hilton Hilton, Mike Hilton. Yeah, older guy, right,

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Speaker 5: older guy, and he gets he's got injury history. Okay,

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Speaker 5: that's just thing. I don't know how much they can

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Speaker 5: go that direction. I just don't know how much with

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Speaker 5: some of the issues that they're having right now in

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Speaker 5: terms of depth there, how much they want to lean

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Speaker 5: on potentially guy with that injury history. I do think

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Speaker 5: that the cost on the free agent market for corners

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Speaker 5: right now has been so high. Jordan Lewis at ten million,

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Speaker 5: He's on the bottom half of corners that have signed

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Speaker 5: so far by consider bull amount. So to me, yeah,

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Speaker 5: you're looking at you're you're looking at the draft and

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Speaker 5: so are you gonna draft a corner to play outside

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Speaker 5: and move bland in? Are you gonna look at the

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Speaker 5: third round? Are you gonna look at Jacob Parrish? Are

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Speaker 5: you gonna look at Baron Maxwell Haston?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: See, I was thinking I don't have Harriston from Kentucky

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Speaker 9: as a second round player, but man, you might have

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Speaker 9: to hit him at forty four.

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Speaker 4: Everybody love him, so you had to give him the third.

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Speaker 9: I do have him at the third and I haven't.

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Speaker 9: I didn't move it, and I got him. And I

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Speaker 9: like Noel Williams from cal You guys know that.

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Speaker 3: Two good ones.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so, but I I'm kind of in that mode

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Speaker 9: right now. But Harrison's probably gonna have to go at

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Speaker 9: forty four. Thomas from Florida State, do anything for you

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Speaker 9: in Nicol.

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Speaker 6: I think he's more of an outside guy, but I

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Speaker 6: could see Nicol possibility.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, one brother, Yeah, I like, I really like.

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Speaker 6: Jacob Parrish out of Kansas State. I see Riley out

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Speaker 6: of Louisville. I think those are two.

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Speaker 9: See. I have both those guys in the fourth, and

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Speaker 9: I have a feeling they're probably both going to go

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Speaker 9: in the third.

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Speaker 5: I think, uh, I think, I mean, I think this

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Speaker 5: team likes Thomas. I think they would probably view him

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Speaker 5: outside though, and so but I mean, again, that's not

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Speaker 5: going to be a problem if you just say Bland

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Speaker 5: will play inside and that Bland will play the nickel,

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Speaker 5: and that may be what they have to do. I

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Speaker 5: think they thought they were going to get Jordan Lewis back,

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Speaker 5: and I think that this is kind of. I think

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Speaker 5: they are in a state right now where they're having

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Speaker 5: to do some adjustments and trying to figure out where

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Speaker 5: they might be able to find some answers.

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Speaker 6: You have a lot easier time convincing to Ron Bland

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Speaker 6: to play at Nickel if you get an extension done

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Speaker 6: with him before the season starts.

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Speaker 5: Got a lot of you got a lot of room,

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Speaker 5: you know something there? Yeah, look, you got a lot

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Speaker 5: of room.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: I wish your job saying when you said that, because

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Speaker 2: they're they're playing Jacob Parish film, which, by the way,

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Speaker 2: Zach Wilchuck just text he said he's the answer in

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Speaker 2: terms of the Nickel Corner spot.

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Speaker 12: But I.

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Speaker 3: Got him. I think I got a couple of these

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Speaker 3: guys too low that perish perish.

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Speaker 2: In the fourth when when you're looking at it, you've

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Speaker 2: brought up Jalen Kimber from Penn State before.

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Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, it's more so like a late Day three.

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Speaker 6: That's a late guy, right, Yeah, that's more so like guy.

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Speaker 3: He get a combine invite.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he did not get a combine invite.

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Speaker 4: That was a surprise.

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Speaker 6: Dan Jackson was another one that was surprising, even though

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Speaker 6: I was kind of pooping on him on Tuesday. Another

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Speaker 6: nickel type guy that I really liked coming out of

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Speaker 6: the All Star Swing was Robert Longer Beam out of Ruggers.

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Speaker 6: That's a guy that I've heard good things on. And

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Speaker 6: then Jalen Smith at USC really talented player who's played

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Speaker 6: multiple spots in the secondary. Talking to a lot of

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Speaker 6: dB trainers in Indianapolis, Jalen Smith is a guy that

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Speaker 6: they feel like is not getting enough love in this

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Speaker 6: draft process. So Jaylen Smith would be another one. I

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Speaker 6: think there's some talented Nickels in this draft.

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Speaker 11: I do.

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Speaker 6: And if you feel like you have to wait till

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Speaker 6: day three to go get one, now, look, it's gonna

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Speaker 6: be tough finding a starter on day tree, but you

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Speaker 6: might be in that situation because you have to fill

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Speaker 6: some other holes on the first couple of days. I

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Speaker 6: think you might be able to hit on one or two.

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Speaker 6: Elijah Hussey out of North Carolina really shining at the

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Speaker 6: Shrine Bowl. I remember Isaiah stand Back, Me and him

558
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Speaker 6: were sitting on the side of the sideline watching practice

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Speaker 6: during the Shrine Bowl and he that was his favorite

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Speaker 6: guy on the field. So, uh, Huzzy is a is

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Speaker 6: another one. I would throw out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he liked him versus Mumpfield, the receiver out of

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Speaker 2: pit like he liked seeing those guys go up against

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Speaker 2: each other throughout. Now, Jaylen Smith was the guy who

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Speaker 2: stood out to me from a nickel standpoint. Remember when

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Speaker 2: Tedes Johnson was kind of turning heads at the Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 2: there was one guy that stood up to him and

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Speaker 2: actually had some success in the one on ones, and

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Speaker 2: it was Jaylen Smith against TZ.

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Speaker 5: I like a swipe celebration too. I like the way

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Speaker 5: he swipes the field.

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Speaker 7: Is that what it is?

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Speaker 3: Fifty four along the way.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just like the way he worked that celebration.

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Speaker 5: Thought there, I thought he went.

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Speaker 3: To Notre Dame, not you as that is the other

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Speaker 3: side of the riot. That's what it was. All right,

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Speaker 3: let's take our first break when we come back.

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Speaker 2: We've got some twitter on the twenty might have a

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Speaker 2: question around the cornerback spot as well.

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Speaker 3: Is it more likely for the.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys to address the nickel spot or to address the

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Speaker 2: boundary like Vox was talking about and moved to Ron

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Speaker 2: Bland inside more to come for the draft show right

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Speaker 3: We just talked about. Two or three round? Where are

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00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 3: you going with this? Yeah, two or three round guys

666
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 3: that we would end up being with. Okay, let go

667
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 3: echo echo, Yeah, let's do Christians question.

668
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 2: This is a this or that You've got MIKEL Williams,

669
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: the addresser out of Georgia that we talked about on

670
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: Tuesday radio, and at forty four you got Caleb Johnson,

671
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,479
Speaker 2: the running back from Iowa.

672
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 3: So you address your your.

673
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 2: Running back spot, or you go with Luther Burdon wide

674
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: receiver at twelve out of Missouri, and you go with

675
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: Donovan Jackson and at Rusher at forty offensive regard from

676
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: from Ohio Ohio State at forty four to address your

677
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 2: offensive line spots. So you're either running the ball with

678
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: Johnson or you're throwing the ball with Burden, and then

679
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 2: you're playing a little defense with Mikel Williams and Donovan

680
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 2: Jackson's blocking for I guess Javonte Williams.

681
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 8: The Luther Burden Jackson one seems to have better, you know,

682
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 8: better players for me. I would love to have Johnson

683
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 8: at forty four, but I'd have attitude that we drafted

684
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 8: Mikeil Williams at twelve.

685
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 3: And it's people that think that I hate Michil Williams.

686
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 3: I don't hate my sounds like that.

687
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 8: I just wouldn't appreciate him at twelve overall, well, because

688
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 8: I think, you know, if you're going to walk, you know, like,

689
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 8: tell me why we're drafting him, right. He's a run

690
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 8: guy that has upside as a pass rusher. I only

691
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 8: really seen him, you know, sacked Texas. I didn't really

692
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 8: see him sacking anybody else. So I just think if

693
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 8: I'm drafting at twelve, I think that would be much

694
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 8: better ready to go players right now. I'm I'm not

695
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 8: the guy that banks on upside. I love a good floor.

696
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 8: I love what are you good at right now?

697
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 3: Because you're tired of upside?

698
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 8: I hate upside upside because I don't know. I don't

699
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 8: know if you were I don't know if you work hard.

700
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 8: I don't know how good coaching is here. But if

701
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 8: I could just bank on anything, I want to bank

702
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 8: on the guys that okay, Well, I know you have

703
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 8: past rush moves. I know that you can play the run,

704
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 8: I know that you can line up in different spies xyz.

705
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 8: So I just feel safer with a Mike Green at

706
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 8: twelve than I would Mikel Williams. You know what I'm saying,

707
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 8: and you know, And then I saw him running this

708
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 8: forty on Twitter and I was like, ah, I was like, oh,

709
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 8: is here a.

710
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 3: Three tech now?

711
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 7: You know what I mean.

712
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 3: So it's just a lot of questions.

713
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 8: And Brian said this like a month ago, and I

714
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 8: think if you're drafting at twelve, you kind of want

715
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 8: to take to do with the least amount of questions.

716
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 3: So that's why I would feel a little weird about

717
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: Mikell at twelve.

718
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 6: Do you have more concerns about you're looking at the

719
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 6: roster right now? Do you have more concerns about this

720
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 6: team rushing the passer or stopping the run.

721
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 8: Stopping the run for sure, but I think when you

722
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 8: drafting at in your first round, I don't want to

723
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 8: think of the team. I just want to take the

724
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 8: best possible to do.

725
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: And I understand that.

726
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 4: I understand that.

727
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 6: I think more so, I guess I'm thinking about it

728
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 6: from my standpoint all. I have Williams and Green a

729
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 6: lot closer than maybe you do, and I see it

730
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 6: from a standpoint of like, Hey, Williams is a guy

731
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 6: that I believe that you can put in day one

732
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 6: start and he'll be able to stop the run and

733
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 6: seal the edge off for you, similar to how DeMarcus

734
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 6: Lawrence said early in his career. Now, granted, it's going

735
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 6: to take some upside, like you said, to get to

736
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 6: the pass rushing department, but I think you can do

737
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 6: that with the personnel that you have involved here. For me,

738
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 6: Mike Green, you're bringing him in as his pass rusher,

739
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 6: and you're giving up some of the run game there

740
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 6: because of his length, because of his lack of versatility. Sorry, Brian,

741
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 6: but I think with mikeel Williams, you have some fluidity

742
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,239
Speaker 6: as far as what you can do with him.

743
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 4: That was just my opinion.

744
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 6: But I am curious about, not necessarily you the mike

745
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 6: El Williams hate in the draft community. I understand where

746
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 6: it comes from, but also factoring in his entire Georgia career.

747
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 6: He said he played a sixty percent last season, and

748
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 6: sixty percent looked pretty damn good to me. But I

749
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 6: don't know one thing to note. Matt I Refluse was

750
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 6: at George's pro day yesterday, front and center for Mikel Williams.

751
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: He got a lot of Georgia players there like, yeah,

752
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 3: they do it for sure.

753
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 8: Twelve overall matters to me, you know what I'm saying,

754
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 8: And he's a second round grade for me, but that

755
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 8: means he'll go like nineteenth overall or something like that,

756
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 8: which which is fine. But in my mind, if I

757
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 8: had to pick between him and the best wide receiver

758
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 8: on the board, I'm probably gonna, you know, choose the

759
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 8: wide receiver or the d lineman or the other edge

760
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 8: rusher that I just like a little bit more, or

761
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 8: the corners that we've been you know, bearing in particular, right,

762
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 8: I would just rather those guys than Williams. And you know,

763
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 8: if we got to reach for a nineteenth overall guy.

764
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 8: At twelve, then cool. Now if we trade back and

765
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 8: we end up with Michael Wis, then we can you know,

766
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 8: we can party and celebrate them.

767
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 3: But twelve now, I.

768
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: Feel like at trade back scenarios, all bets are off

769
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: at that point because you could go anywhere. You could

770
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,959
Speaker 2: go with the cornerback spot, you could go with one

771
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 2: of those other second tier wide receivers that slips. You

772
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 2: could go with anybody there and kind of turn it around.

773
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: With kind of that in mind, William asked the question,

774
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: there's been the conversation about twelve to thirteen true first

775
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: round grades. You mentioned that a minute ago at fourteen

776
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: after the combine, and now that we're getting in the

777
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: pro days, has that changed at all for any of

778
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 2: you guys? Where where is your board at in terms

779
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: of your first round grades?

780
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 3: Across it?

781
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 5: Film is king? I don't want to change because somebody

782
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 5: you know run will or you know what if somebody

783
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 5: runs really poorly? Are you more likely to change a

784
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 5: grade based on somebody performing really poorly at the combine

785
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 5: or performing really well?

786
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: I tend not to do either one.

787
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been see I didn't used to and then

788
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 5: I got burned by tease taber one year, peace table

789
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 5: will burn you Tease table tea. That was the only

790
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 5: thing teess table woul Burn because he was not running

791
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 5: with anybody apparently with his four six two forty at

792
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 5: his size.

793
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 3: But it's amazing how well he played on film though.

794
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was really good on film. Yeah, and then

795
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 5: he he couldn't he couldn't run, and he got to

796
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 5: the NFL and he was a mess. And he was

797
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 5: somebody on tape that looked like a first round player

798
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 5: and then he ran four six two and you go, okay, well,

799
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 5: why is a five eleven one and ninetyound corner running

800
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 5: four six two?

801
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 3: That's not good. I kind of feel like these guys

802
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 3: can train for forties. That's what bothers me.

803
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, you know, you could get a guy like

804
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 9: and we've talked about and I'm the the example I

805
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 9: always uses the ursery from Minnesota tested really really well.

806
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 9: He doesn't play like he tests, so that that kind

807
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 9: of that's those are the kinds of things I'm I'm

808
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 9: with fog Listen. I would I would rather die on

809
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 9: the hill, the film hill, yep, than I would the

810
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 9: workout hill.

811
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 6: I think there is value seeing these people up close

812
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 6: in person? Yeah, more so in like a Senior Bowl

813
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 6: or a shrine Bowl type.

814
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: And I totally agree with you.

815
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 6: A combine testing, Yeah, you do have to take it

816
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 6: with the grain of salt. There's a reason it exists,

817
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 6: and there's a reason that all thirty two teams go

818
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 6: and they see the guys in person. But I think

819
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 6: there is only some value put in.

820
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 5: Tyler Shuck ran four six four At the comment Tyler

821
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 5: Shuck the quarterback. The quarterback, So Shuck ran four six

822
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 5: four When he first got into training, he was running.

823
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 3: Five oh five.

824
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 5: So I mean, like you're talking, and it kind of

825
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 5: depends on the margins. How how out of shape does

826
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 5: somebody show up when they start training, and how much

827
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 5: they can add to.

828
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: The stuff other guys they learn how to start.

829
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I mean trailing Burks, he ran four or

830
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 5: five oh a couple years ago. I think Burks showed up.

831
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 5: He was running for so I'm like, you can get

832
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 5: some But like I mean.

833
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: Is that why you knock a guy though? Like a

834
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: test Johnson for instance, out of Oregon. I mean he

835
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: plays faster on tape than he did actually running the

836
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: forty does that tell you something about work ethic or

837
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,719
Speaker 2: train or any kind of element there.

838
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 9: Let me know how you could go to the combine

839
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 9: and not be ready for it exactly. That that tells

840
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 9: me more about your character that does anything.

841
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 3: That's the question. Yeah.

842
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 5: So, I mean I think that the testing doesn't bump

843
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 5: anybody necessarily. For me, what it will do is it'll

844
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 5: make me go back and like, okay, did I was

845
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 5: I seeing something wrong?

846
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: Like if I watch Golden play, what do you see?

847
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 3: Do you see a fourteen time guy? Yeah?

848
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 5: I didn't expect him run four two, But like when

849
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 5: I see it, I see it, yeah, yeah, yes, yeah no,

850
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 5: And like I mean, there's some guys that when I

851
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 5: see the testing, it's like, Okay, I didn't expect you

852
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 5: were gonna run like that, And then there are other

853
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 5: guys where it's like, wow, I really expected you to

854
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 5: be faster. Tony Pollard was not a four or five

855
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 5: guy on the field to me, Like he ran four

856
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 5: or five two or whatever he did at the comment,

857
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 5: that was not a four five player in pads on

858
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 5: the field, there's a little bit of a difference with

859
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 5: game speed and different things like that. I I had

860
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 5: if you count if you count the double first round

861
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 5: grade as receiver in corner for Travis hunder than I

862
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 5: had fifteen. If you got him as one player, than

863
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 5: I had fourteen, and I still got fourteen.

864
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 2: I've got fifteen, and I'm pretty solidly at that number.

865
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 2: I feel pretty good about fifteen. Nick, you've seen Kobe

866
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: Hudson from from UCF. Yeah, towns and players as a player.

867
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 9: See that's I'm saying there's a four or five guy

868
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 9: that plays a lot faster than four or five.

869
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:30,479
Speaker 3: On tape.

870
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 9: He ran like four or five to one at the combine.

871
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 9: He's a He's a pretty depressive guy.

872
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: Speaking of guys who had some pretty good combines. Ty

873
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: Felton from Maryland. So Darryl asked the questions, like I said,

874
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 2: why is Ty getting or not getting the love?

875
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 3: He had a good combine. He's got some decent film

876
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 3: at Maryland.

877
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 14: Anything on ty Felton from you guys, I have no

878
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 14: West's family, Okay, Yeah, just a bigger set guy. Not

879
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 14: bigger set, more so long, long and outside receiver that

880
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 14: you could definitely see pop on late day two or

881
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 14: early day three. I think he's a talented player. You

882
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 14: talk about production, he certainly has it. He was a

883
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 14: third team All American this last season. I mean, he's

884
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Speaker 14: I don't think there's necessarily lack of love for him.

885
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 14: I mean, you look at the production he had last year,

886
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 14: ninety six receptions and twenty four yards.

887
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 6: Both of those stats led the Big Ten. I think

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00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 6: this is a guy who's getting properly valued at this

889
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 6: point in the process. I think I think the testing

890
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 6: certainly did help him out though.

891
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 3: Or did you have him?

892
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 4: I have him in the fourth, fourth round?

893
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, good to know, move him forward. He was

894
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 3: a Senior Bowl guy as well. He was out there

895
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 3: from Maryland.

896
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Speaker 6: Ty Felton didn't really shine at the Senior Bowl. Maybe

897
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Speaker 6: that was an expectation from from some people in the

898
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Speaker 6: part of it.

899
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you had other guys kind of step up like

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Speaker 3: a jack back. Can you tell me who your favor

901
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 3: round guys are? Please? At wide receiver.

902
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say that I don't have all of

903
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 4: them put together.

904
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 9: Okay, now, so we'll have if I could throw Okay,

905
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 9: let me let me throw my fourth round at you

906
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 9: tell me Bryant from Illinois, Okay, Hudson from UCF, Higgins

907
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Speaker 9: Iowa State, and Bond from Tech.

908
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 3: How how would you rate him among those guys?

909
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Speaker 6: So I have Higgins above that list. I would have

910
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 6: Bond second. Who are the other ones you threw out there,

911
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Speaker 6: Bryant and Hudson, Bryant and Hudson, I would go Hudson, Bryant.

912
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: So, Hudson from uc F, Pat Bryant from Illinois. Who

913
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: are the other names you said of? You said Bond

914
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 2: from Texas?

915
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Speaker 3: Right? So you have you have this this Maryland kid

916
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: above all those guys. Is that ty Felton?

917
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Speaker 9: No, I have him in the fourth That's what I'm saying.

918
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Speaker 9: Above Bryant, Hudson, Higgins, Bond.

919
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 6: No, I have Higgins and Bond in the Higgins is

920
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Speaker 6: the second round grade. Bond is a third. Okay, and

921
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Speaker 6: then yeah, yea, I see the others are fourth throws.

922
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Speaker 3: Okay, got you gotch him.

923
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Speaker 2: Anybody watched Jordan James out of Oregon running back? We

924
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Speaker 2: had Brian He wants to know tell me more about

925
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 2: mister Jordan James.

926
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm big Jordan James.

927
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Speaker 3: Guy.

928
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Speaker 6: I think Oregon's done a fantastic job in evaluating running backs.

929
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Speaker 6: And if you don't believe me, asked this front office.

930
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Speaker 6: They interviewed their running backs coach for the running backs

931
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Speaker 6: coach position here, Rashad samples he's a DFW DFW guy,

932
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 6: but yeah, Oregon really talented player. He ran hard for

933
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Speaker 6: the Ducks this last season. I like his set at

934
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Speaker 6: five to ten two ten. I think that is like

935
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Speaker 6: the perfect running back physique. I think if you take that,

936
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Speaker 6: you put that on the field, I think it translates perfectly.

937
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Speaker 4: He has some ability out of the backfield.

938
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Speaker 6: This is a guy I think you could take in

939
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Speaker 6: the third round at seventy six and you'd be comfortable

940
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Speaker 6: with it.

941
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Speaker 2: Yeah, whenever I watched him, I mean I looked at him.

942
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Speaker 2: One of the more explosive backs in the country last year.

943
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: Electrifying runner, twitchy movements, make it hard from first contact,

944
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Speaker 2: runs bigger than his body type, uses every part of

945
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Speaker 2: the field by Oregon. He was used in the red zone,

946
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 2: he was used on the outside, used in the flat.

947
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: He was receiver out of the backfield, not maybe not

948
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 2: in every down back because he is smaller. He's not

949
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be kind of one of those

950
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: mid round guys that you could pick up and give.

951
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 3: Quality snaps to. But he's not a three down guy.

952
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, he punches up the hit, Like, I mean, he's smaller,

953
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 5: but he's a he's pretty physical for it. Pound for pound,

954
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 5: he's the more physical running back.

955
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Speaker 3: They sub him out as a pass protector, Yeah they do.

956
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, as does a physical run it Like that's a.

957
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 3: The running part of it is really really great.

958
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 9: I think the strength of a runner is really you'll

959
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 9: fight for extra yards all those stuff. If he has

960
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 9: a weakness, sits out a pass protector and he doesn't

961
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 9: have a great route tree, I'm sure he catches the

962
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Speaker 9: ball better then, But do you watch Oregon.

963
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 3: He does not run a lot of routes. But I

964
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 3: worried about the pass protection part.

965
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 5: Of it, which shot Shoty has mentioned before, Like that's

966
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Speaker 5: that is a component that he wants to see out

967
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 5: of the backs. He wants to see them be able

968
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 5: to do different things in the passing.

969
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 9: It might not be his fault, it might be the

970
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 9: coordinator's fault there for the routes. But I didn't see

971
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Speaker 9: a lot of them.

972
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm looking at two. It was kind of

973
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: an imperfect offensive line play up front.

974
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Speaker 3: Two.

975
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: I mean they had some good, good guys up front.

976
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about Connor Lee out of the

977
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: tackle spot. There were times where he would just get

978
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: lost in the wash.

979
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 3: The chunk player guy. Yeah, he would make it happen.

980
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 3: I had him in the bottom half of the of

981
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Speaker 3: the third, So third fourth is kind of right round.

982
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: Where'd you have him, Brian? I believe in the fourth

983
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 3: round about the same?

984
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 2: All right, Now, this question has to do with what

985
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Speaker 2: I want to talk about in the third segment. I

986
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Speaker 2: want to leave a little bit of time here. The

987
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Speaker 2: question was from Ty. He wants to know how has

988
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Speaker 2: free agency and how have these trades kind of affected

989
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: what could happen before the Cowboys at pick number twelve.

990
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Speaker 3: So we're going to take our break.

991
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Speaker 2: We're going to answer that question, kind of sneak in

992
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Speaker 2: another Twitter on the twenty question and talk about how

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Speaker 2: things can shake out from one to eleven to affect

994
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Speaker 2: with the Cowboys may have available at pick twelve in

995
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Speaker 3: That's exactly what it was. And then we've got brought

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Speaker 3: Bobby delp I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad you're with us. One

1051
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Speaker 3: of the update. This is what the draft pick situation

1052
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 3: looks like.

1053
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Speaker 2: Remember the Cowboys early this week received four competitory picks,

1054
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 2: three in.

1055
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Speaker 3: The fifth round, one in the sixth round. Well with

1056
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Speaker 3: the Kyrie.

1057
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: Elam and the Kenneth Murray deals, it's kind of flip

1058
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: flopped a little bit since then. So currently on the board,

1059
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: then this is this is what it is at the moment.

1060
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: It's probably going to change at some point soon because

1061
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 2: who knows if they're done or not. But they still

1062
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: have twelve forty four seventy six that has not changed

1063
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 2: in the first three rounds. Then you skip the fourth round,

1064
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: remember that pick is gone for Jonathan Mingo. But then

1065
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: you've got three fifth round picks still one forty nine,

1066
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: one seventy one, and one seventy fourth.

1067
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Speaker 3: You go into the sixth round.

1068
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Speaker 2: You've got two picks there to four to eleven two

1069
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: ze fourths which you got back from the Bills in

1070
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: the Kyri Elam trade, and then two picks in round

1071
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: seven two thirty seven overall acquire from the Titans and

1072
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Speaker 2: the Kenneth.

1073
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 3: Murray deal, and then two forty seven is what you

1074
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 3: have there in the seventh.

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Speaker 6: Essentially you took one of your fifth round picks, yep,

1076
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Speaker 6: moved it back to the seventh.

1077
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Speaker 3: That's exactly what essentially, so you still have all those picks.

1078
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Speaker 2: You still have the darts at the dark board ten

1079
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: overall selections three fifths, two six, two sevens, and that's

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Speaker 2: what you've got right now. Could possibly package those to

1081
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: try and move up and get back into the fourth

1082
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 2: that's definitely not out of the equation as well. But Bobby,

1083
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 2: when you look up in front of the Cowboys, with

1084
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 2: all of the free agent signings and movement and whatever

1085
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: has happened over the last seventy two to four days

1086
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Speaker 2: or seventy two hours four days or so, what is

1087
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Speaker 2: the biggest change in front of the Cowboys that could

1088
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Speaker 2: possibly affect what's available at twelve.

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Speaker 5: So the biggest thing to me in the biggest wild

1090
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 5: card to me right now, that's a little concern to

1091
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 5: me is just how much San Francisco's been eviscerated. Yeah,

1092
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 5: because San Francisco's directly in front of you, and now

1093
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 5: San Francisco is just in a position where it's like, well,

1094
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 5: we could take anything we want, and so well, I

1095
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 5: think that they're in a spot where that's just going

1096
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 5: to be that's going to give you a difficult read.

1097
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 5: Like directly in front of you. You don't know what

1098
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 5: they could be looking at, or they could be looking

1099
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Speaker 5: at best player available. So if somebody happens to be

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Speaker 5: sliding that you're hoping for, san Francisco could go, well,

1101
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 5: we could use that, we could use anything. Right now,

1102
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 5: let's jump on that.

1103
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 9: I would worry about San Francisco trade now for picks

1104
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 9: san Francisco. See that San Francisco seems like a team

1105
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 9: that's selling right now, and I would worry about them

1106
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 9: all of a sudden, Like people kind of get a

1107
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 9: read on Dallas. Say, say the gent does make it down,

1108
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 9: you know, say he gets past the Raiders and the Jets,

1109
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 9: and he gets past Chicago and all that, and now

1110
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 9: you're thinking, Okay, well, there's there's a player we're focusing

1111
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 9: in on, and somebody just behind behind you is like, listen,

1112
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 9: we see what's going on. That's the that's the best

1113
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 9: player on the board, health, character, ability, boom, that's our guy,

1114
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 9: and they get ahead of Dallas. There's there's teams that

1115
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 9: have done that to Dallas a couple of times in

1116
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 9: drafts where they've had like all of a sudden the

1117
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 9: guy that was on the board for them or how

1118
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 9: it was looked, and then they and then they get

1119
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 9: traded in front. People have done a pretty good job,

1120
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 9: and I think what happens is, you know, to be

1121
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 9: honest with you, Dallas's.

1122
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 3: Draft has covered so much.

1123
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 9: These teams have kind of figured out watched the Draft show,

1124
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 9: figure out what's kind of and I'm serious, it is,

1125
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 9: I'm serious.

1126
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 3: They they're they're this team is covered so extensively in

1127
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 3: the draft.

1128
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 9: I think people in these pro departments and draft and

1129
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 9: college scouting departments get a gauge of what's going on

1130
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 9: maybe with the Cowboys, and they're able to make really

1131
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 9: good educated guesses of who they might take and and

1132
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 9: you could kind of say, hey, we got to get

1133
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 9: up ahead of that if.

1134
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 3: We want that guy.

1135
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 8: Do you think that's why two years ago, whatever it was,

1136
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 8: the whole Michael Mayer thing came out, Sure, and the

1137
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 8: Bills are like, oh, well, they're obviously looking for tight ans.

1138
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 8: Let's jump and go get Kim K. But yeah, I

1139
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 8: don't think the Cowboys were looking at kingk for it, Like,

1140
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 8: do you think that that's wild?

1141
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 9: Well, and then and then Dallas Goddard was that way too.

1142
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 9: If you remember the FLA, they Philly believed that Dallas

1143
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 9: was going to take you know, and that was just

1144
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 9: from Witting.

1145
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 5: Witten were hiring that weekend sure, because they just naturally simple,

1146
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 5: they must be going for Goddard. So we got it

1147
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 5: week But I think that.

1148
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 3: We do a really good job. And I'm not doing

1149
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 3: this palle in the back.

1150
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 9: I'm just saying we covered this team in a way

1151
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 9: that if you watch these shows, you could kind of

1152
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 9: figure out.

1153
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 3: What they need, you know.

1154
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 9: I mean you could look at your own you could

1155
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 9: watch your own tape, but like if you my point is,

1156
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 9: San Francisco is to me a very dangerous team to

1157
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 9: have in front of you the whole day because of

1158
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 9: their They're probably looking at this thing the most famous

1159
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 9: trade they ever made Bill Walsh. He took he had

1160
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 9: a very high page, just kept going back and back

1161
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 9: and back and back and just picking up picks and

1162
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 9: that was the That was the draft in the eighties

1163
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 9: that got them propelled to their Super Bowl teams. This

1164
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 9: this team has a hit if.

1165
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 5: You look at who's been active ahead of them in

1166
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 5: free agency so far and where that could potentially shift things.

1167
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 5: Caroline has been very active in the secondary. They've added

1168
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 5: a bunch of different pieces there. They just resigned JC Horn,

1169
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 5: they added Trayvon Merrick. I think there was another corner

1170
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 5: that they added in free agency, the Raiders getting Geno Smith.

1171
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 5: That has raised some questions. It seems like of people

1172
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 5: who are covering things with the Raiders that that's where

1173
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 5: Genty goes now that they just look at and say, well,

1174
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 5: we can go Genty. We're solid with Gino. Especially with

1175
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 5: the Giants, end up saying they're not comfortable with whatever

1176
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 5: they settle on in quarterback and free agency, whether that's

1177
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers or somebody else, because you would imagine number

1178
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 5: one will be cam Ward, whether that's so the Titans

1179
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 5: or whoever goes up and gets him number three. At

1180
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 5: that point, you would think Giants could very easily go

1181
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 5: Shador Sanders. Of course, there's also the Dane Brugler talked

1182
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 5: about it. Dane said, coming out of Indy, he was like,

1183
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 5: there's a chance should or sitting there when you're picking

1184
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 5: at twelve.

1185
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 6: I was going to say, I want to prepare people

1186
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 6: for that conversation because it's a conversation we're gonna have

1187
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 6: to have on this show. If Shador is there at twelve,

1188
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 6: we're gonna have to have the conversation. Not gonna happen,

1189
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 6: but I just want to prepare people for the conversation.

1190
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 14: Look at him being there, him being there, or being there,

1191
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 14: him being okay, Because you look at Cleveland at two,

1192
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 14: they're hosting Russell Wilson for a visit today.

1193
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 6: The Giants looking at Aaron Rodgers really hard. Vegas went

1194
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 6: and got Geno Smith. New York Jets went and got

1195
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 6: Justin Field and seem okay with it. You go back

1196
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 6: and everyone else has got their quarterback. Yeah, so I

1197
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 6: mean it's it's Brown's.

1198
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 5: Browns also went and got Kenny Pickett too, so they've

1199
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 5: got Picket Watson their host and visits. I mean, yeah,

1200
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 5: there's there's a chance that he could fall down there

1201
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 5: unless the Giants just say we're going this direction.

1202
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 3: I don't know that.

1203
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 5: I mean, one of the big things is Jacksonville. It

1204
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 5: seems like did a lot to kind of address offensive

1205
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 5: line as well, So that was kind of a thought

1206
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 5: at one point Will Campbell could go there. So if

1207
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 5: Will Campbell's not going to Jacksonville at five and then

1208
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 5: you see okay six, the Raiders maybe take somebody else.

1209
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 5: Now you're starting to talk about is their chance Will

1210
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 5: Campbell gets pushed down a little bit, and you might

1211
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 5: be in play for that, And that's a question.

1212
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 6: Watch the Texans with Will Campbell. I could see them

1213
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 6: jumping up really high.

1214
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: To go Laramy Tunseel you can maybe reach.

1215
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 5: I don't think Houston views Campbell as a tackle though,

1216
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 5: I think I think it would be a guard. I

1217
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 5: think Houston thinks of him as a guard.

1218
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 3: Which they just traded their guard. So that you've you've

1219
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 3: got some movement there. Now.

1220
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: The Sanders conversation is intriguing because remember the backup quarterback

1221
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: situation is still unsolved here in Dallas. You've got that connection,

1222
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 2: You've got the thought process. Oh, I mean, I'm like

1223
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 2: you said, it's a conversation that has to be had

1224
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 2: because at least when you look at the breadcrumbs of

1225
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 2: what has happened in the front office before, and Johnny

1226
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,959
Speaker 2: Manziel is the first thing that comes to mind.

1227
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 3: They didn't make that pick, but there was somebody in

1228
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 3: the front office.

1229
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: That wanted to make that pick, and we just talked

1230
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: about it during his retirement press conference. Is Zach Martin

1231
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: and what it was with Johnny Manzel no chance that

1232
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: this that's a legitimate conversation upstairs.

1233
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 6: The fact that they did, he'd be on a rookie contract,

1234
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 6: it would not expire, or he'd be going into his

1235
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 6: fifth year after Dak Prescott's contract is already out.

1236
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 4: It makes no sense at all. I'm just preparing people.

1237
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 2: Who see it last year with Atlanta doing the same thing,

1238
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 2: they went and signed Kirk Cousins. Now, separate situation. It

1239
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 2: wasn't the homegrown talent, it wasn't the guy. That's fair,

1240
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 2: but Atlanta had.

1241
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: Just signed kirk Cousins to a multi million dollar.

1242
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 2: Huge contract, Like how dumb that decision is then turned

1243
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: around to Michael Pennix and drafted him to ten.

1244
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 5: You're also looking at because I mean, here here's the

1245
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 5: only either. Here's the only problem too is if you're

1246
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 5: looking at that, it's like, well, maybe you can have

1247
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 5: a trade down center.

1248
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, like if Santa is on a ball, nobody's gonna

1249
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 3: come are.

1250
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 5: Exactly exactly what and maybe Indy comes up for it.

1251
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 5: But like outside of that, you look behind it, it's

1252
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 5: Miami they just paid too, It's Atlanta. They've got Pennix, Arizon, Arizona.

1253
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 5: I I don't see Shador as a Pittsburgh Mike Tomlin

1254
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 5: type of player. Maybe, but I just I don't think

1255
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 5: that that's a I don't know that he would look

1256
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 5: at that and go that's.

1257
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 3: Why would I had twelve take Jackson Dart over him?

1258
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 5: Over? Yeah, you have Jackson Dard ahead of Shadore.

1259
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 9: I mean, I just, I mean I have not studied

1260
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 9: the quarterbacks extensively, but why when I keep watching old

1261
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 9: miss tape, I kind of feel nothing to kids Andrews.

1262
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 9: I kind of feel like Jackson Dart might be a

1263
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 9: better player.

1264
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 5: I mean, so it's interesting if you look at the odds,

1265
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 5: the the odds that Vegas places on your number one picks,

1266
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 5: not that any of us would take part in that,

1267
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 5: because that would go against NFL rules, but the odds

1268
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 5: that are put out there on it cam Ward is

1269
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 5: the overall favorite to be the number one pick. Then

1270
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 5: it's like Travis Hunter Rabdul Carter and so you get

1271
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 5: to the seventh best odds to go number one is

1272
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 5: Jackson Dart and it's all like they're astronomical odds. But

1273
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 5: it's because teams so valued quarterbacks and will go all right,

1274
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 5: there's a chance somebody could fall in love and so

1275
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 5: momentum builds and you could have that. So I mean,

1276
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 5: dark could be somebody that goes up. I don't I

1277
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 5: heard more and more out there while we were in

1278
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 5: Indy that it does seem like there's some teams that

1279
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 5: really like Shador Sanders and having as the number one quarterback.

1280
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 5: It sounds like there's a lot more people out there

1281
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 5: who maybe there's a random you know, executive or a

1282
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 5: random team that's like, we like Tyler schuckmore than s

1283
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 5: or we like Jackson Dart more than Shaud, or there's

1284
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 5: there's not a consistent feel about him from team to team.

1285
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 5: An evaluator to evaluate.

1286
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 4: Tyler Shuggs gonna get a GM fired.

1287
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 2: What is what is up with the hype around him

1288
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 2: right now out of Louisville, and again, quarterbacks are one

1289
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 2: of the last positions I look at to y'all might have.

1290
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 6: A better perspective than me. I think it's the testing.

1291
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 6: I think it's the combine performance. You pair that with

1292
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 6: a really damn good agent, and I think I think

1293
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 6: it's it's why Tyler Shuggs gotten a lot of love,

1294
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 6: I think.

1295
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 4: But I have Kyle McCord over this guy. Yep, I

1296
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 4: have a hold.

1297
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 6: Let me go back to my board if it would

1298
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 6: load for me, Jackson Dart shoot, I have Dylan Gabriel

1299
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 6: over this guy. I mean, I'm Quinn yours, I'm Riley Leonard.

1300
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 5: There was a I mean, I mean that Tyler Tyler Shuk.

1301
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: I'll stand on the table for Riley Leonard as like

1302
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 2: a Day three guy in the seventh, But I don't

1303
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,959
Speaker 2: have him. Yeah, I mean that's where I have done right.

1304
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 3: Now, you know? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, probably?

1305
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1306
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 3: What is it another other other?

1307
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 8: Like on my board, I don't sixes and sevens or whatever.

1308
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 8: I just go to fifth round and as everybody else.

1309
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 4: Yeah that's fair.

1310
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 5: Tyler Shuck Uh. Tyler Shuck enrolled at Oregon before the

1311
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 5: Cowboys drafted Layton vander USh, and Layton vander USh has

1312
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 5: now retired, and so that's how long ago and college.

1313
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 3: But the thing was, I thought you were about to

1314
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 3: say the Cowboys became an organiza. No no, no, no, no, no, no, shut.

1315
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 5: But I mean, he's he's going to be twenty six soon.

1316
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 5: He's an older quarterback. I think the thing with Shuck

1317
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 5: is the NFL has because he's been in college for

1318
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,479
Speaker 5: so long. There was a time three years ago where

1319
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 5: some of these scouting agencies, uh that the NFL used

1320
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 5: their services, had looked at it. He's they they really.

1321
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 3: Liked him a few years ago, like Blessed National.

1322
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, like they they thought really highly of him at

1323
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 5: one point, and so I think that the league also

1324
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 5: had a high opinion of his upside at one point.

1325
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 5: He dealt with injuries, he had other things happened. So

1326
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,760
Speaker 5: I also think that there's this kind of long standing

1327
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 5: love affair that some of the league has had with

1328
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 5: him for a while that that also might explain why

1329
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 5: it's finally coming to fruition this guy that they've they've

1330
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,479
Speaker 5: had some eyes on for a few years.

1331
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 6: Broken collar bones, shoulder surgery, broken fibula, he's missed a

1332
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 6: ton of time during his college career.

1333
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 4: He's got the size six five two thirty and I.

1334
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 3: Think that's probably read out over like twelve seasons.

1335
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 4: Exactly.

1336
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 6: It's not that bad when you take that context in.

1337
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 6: He's got the size six five two thirty. I understand

1338
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 6: the appeal. I'm just it's not for me, not my

1339
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 6: cup of tea.

1340
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 2: It's kind of a weird conversation, the shug element of it.

1341
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 2: Any other spots to highlight between one through eleven?

1342
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 5: Uh, you know, yeah, I think when we're just looking

1343
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 5: at this, that's the bigger questions right now are some

1344
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 5: of these active teams like Jacksonville and Carolina, Like how

1345
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 5: does that potentially shift things?

1346
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 3: New New England.

1347
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 5: New England has had some so New England has signed

1348
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 5: it like a baling team to me, New England. Yeah.

1349
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 5: So for a long time, the popular mock pick to

1350
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 5: New England was Ted McMillan and that kind of cooled

1351
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 5: a couple months ago, and.

1352
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 3: Then it became Graham.

1353
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 5: Graham was a really popular one. They just signed Milton Williams, right,

1354
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 5: They added Tonga, who's not a three technique, but they've

1355
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 5: added to the defensive line and so I kind of

1356
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 5: wonder do they want to keep doing that with Carter?

1357
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 5: Does uh does Mike Rabel sit there and fall in

1358
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 5: love with somebody like Jayalen Walker? You know, I'm I'm

1359
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 5: gonna be interested, see that. I know that Mike Rabel

1360
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 5: for the old school mentality, he gets hit with a lot.

1361
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 5: The the second things really turned for him in Tennessee

1362
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 5: was when they traded aj Brown and he didn't want

1363
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 5: to And so I do wonder if he would prioritize

1364
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 5: somebody like McMillan, because I can't figure out why people

1365
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 5: are falling out of love with McMillan the way that

1366
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 5: feels like Kyle Hamilton at receiver to me, where it's

1367
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 5: like people have been no like Kyle Hamilton what he

1368
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 5: was in the draft a couple of years ago, wherever

1369
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 5: you said that's a top five talent. Somehow he just

1370
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 5: kept sliding down where it's almost like people got fatigued

1371
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 5: hearing about him for so long and overthought him right

1372
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 5: that that eventually they I wonder if ted McMillan's sort

1373
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 5: of the same way. People are just starting to overthink

1374
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 5: him a little bit and and are not They're losing

1375
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 5: sight of what kind of a great player he is,

1376
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 5: which is, to me, one of the three best players

1377
00:55:58,760 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 5: in the draft.

1378
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 6: Signing Mac, how does that deter New England from going

1379
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 6: and getting a guy like Tea Mack.

1380
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 5: I wouldn't got if it was my team. I sure yeah,

1381
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 5: I sure hope they wouldn't say we got Mac Collins,

1382
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 5: we don't need Ted McMillan. But potentially, I mean they again,

1383
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 5: New England's one of these teams that they need everything.

1384
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,919
Speaker 5: I think anybody who's clearly in a period of change,

1385
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 5: like San Francisco is or has a new staff is

1386
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 5: always a threat ahead of you. So a New Orleans

1387
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 5: is also you don't know how they're gonna go. Well,

1388
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 5: we look like we have somebody here, but our new

1389
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 5: staff doesn't like that guy, so we need somebody.

1390
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 6: It was like the Anthony Edwards quote in the playoffs

1391
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 6: last year. They got Kevin Durant, we got Josh McDaniels.

1392
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 3: All a quick.

1393
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 4: I would bring in an NBA quote at least once

1394
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 4: every show, Jade McDaniels, You'll find a way you find Josh.

1395
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 4: That's what threw me off of the right. It was

1396
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 4: on this Patriot Talk.

1397
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, getting right back into it.

1398
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 2: And remember new head coaches kind of all scattered throughout

1399
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 2: one through eleven anyway, So it's gonna be tough to tell.

1400
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: Just like you said, who they're gonna fall in love

1401
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 2: with what these stabs like, we've got a new head

1402
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 2: coach to deal with too. In that same kind of elements,

1403
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 2: it's tough to really see exactly what one through tel

1404
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 2: twelve is gonna look like.

1405
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 3: Bobby A question of course. So you're right, you're my

1406
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 3: You're my? What the league says guys on last Draft show?

1407
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 8: It seems that we're in different places about Josh Simmons, Right,

1408
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 8: what's the league saying now that his knee is healthy,

1409
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 8: Like is he going to be a dude that teams

1410
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 8: are looking at the possibly be like a top ten guy?

1411
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 8: Or is he still going to be in that late

1412
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 8: first conversation like he won?

1413
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 5: I mean, I think I think that I don't think

1414
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 5: he's top ten at all. That I haven't heard anybody

1415
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 5: from that the most. In fact, I've heard more, not

1416
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 5: just about the injury. I've just heard more split opinions

1417
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 5: on him, where some people think like, oh, that's the

1418
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 5: first round tackling some others who are just a little

1419
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 5: bit more. Now that's more like a second guy to me.

1420
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 8: I think that's so strange because I think he's the

1421
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 8: best offensive lineman his whole damn draft.

1422
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 3: And I think that's weird. Best.

1423
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 8: I think he's the best old lineman his whole damn draft.

1424
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 8: I think he's I think he's ahead of Johnson Banks.

1425
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 8: I think he's had all those guys I like, like

1426
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 8: as a left tackle.

1427
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 3: This is coming from a Tyler booker stain.

1428
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 8: I love me some Tyler book but just watching the

1429
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 8: film on on On Simmons, like how he moves, like technique.

1430
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 8: He's a run game guy, pushing people in the run game,

1431
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 8: great pass block. I mean, yeah, he got hurt, and

1432
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 8: if we're gonna use the hurt situation, right, I get

1433
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 8: it if we're using hurt, But if you get a

1434
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 8: tap on your show to say, hey, his knee is fine,

1435
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 8: I'm thinking his knee is fine as like a Will

1436
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 8: Johnson forty four us like a good boy like that

1437
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 8: should boost him in my personal opinion. Sure, And I

1438
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 8: just saw nothing but Dominanta for him this year, like

1439
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 8: last year, you know, twenty twenty three, ta you know,

1440
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 8: growing pains or whatever. He had to kind of make

1441
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 8: some adjustments or whatever. But until he but up uptil

1442
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 8: he got hurt, I'm thinking he beating the hell out

1443
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 8: of people. And I'm listening to people talk about Josh Simmons, All, yeah,

1444
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 8: he'll go in the twenties or something. Yeah, maybe a

1445
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 8: second round guy. I think Simmons is a dude.

1446
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 5: He's a classic tackle too. I think in a draft

1447
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 5: where you kind of wonder if some of these tackles

1448
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 5: are better guards, like Banks and Campbell and stuff, Simmons

1449
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 5: is like, that's a legitimate tackle. And then so anybody

1450
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 5: who wants a clean, I want to clean tackle prospect.

1451
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 5: Depending on how you feel about where he's at, then

1452
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 5: he would be the top I would imagine.

1453
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 8: I think if if he was in last year's draft,

1454
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 8: I think we'll be like, Okay, well there's all, and

1455
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 8: there's there's all.

1456
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 3: You know, there's.

1457
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 8: Um O Lou and there's these. I think he'll be

1458
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 8: like the fourth guy in the list. I think he'll

1459
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 8: be right ahead of Latham. I think he'll be right

1460
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 8: ahead of Memes. I think that highly of him. And

1461
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 8: if you can take that dude and put him in

1462
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 8: this draft where we don't have a lot of faith

1463
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 8: in the dudes in this draft. I think he'd be

1464
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 8: a slam dunk top ten fifteen type dude. But I'm

1465
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 8: just not hearing people talk about him like that. I

1466
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 8: think that's a that's a that's a little wild. I'm

1467
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 8: not gonna call it nonsense because I respect everybody, but

1468
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 8: I think that's nice. I think he has some fantastic film.

1469
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 8: I'm not going to I think I think he's a dog.

1470
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:40,439
Speaker 3: Please go ahead.

1471
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 4: This is This is a very strange draft.

1472
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 6: And I know you've talked about this, Brian, about how

1473
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 6: many players are coming in, especially at the top, that

1474
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 6: are hurting not only corner position, but we're talking about

1475
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 6: tackles as well. We'll talked about a couple of running

1476
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 6: backs as well, and then we're also talking about a

1477
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 6: lot of guys where it's like check the twenty three tape.

1478
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 6: Because of twenty three tape, you see the ceiling there.

1479
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 6: This is a difficult draft to evaluate, and I think, uh,

1480
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 6: anybody that puts in the time and the effort in

1481
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 6: this draft, kudos to you. Kudos everybody on this show.

1482
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 6: This is This is gonna be a tough one. I

1483
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 6: think there's gonna be some misses in this draft in

1484
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 6: the first round for sure. And I also think there's

1485
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 6: gonna be some random hits because you see a twenty

1486
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 6: four tape and you're like, eh, but there's, you know,

1487
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 6: maybe some bright spots earlier in a guy's career that

1488
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 6: shines in the NFL. So this is an interesting class.

1489
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 6: I will Josh Simmons is a perfect example of that.

1490
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 5: One last thought on Simmons or one last opinion from

1491
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 5: und league on Simons. I do know that there's one

1492
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 5: team that thinks Grant's better, Charles Grant.

1493
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 3: William and mayor Josh Simmons. Team suck at draft.

1494
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 5: I'm not agreeing.

1495
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, he yo be, heyo be. Put the

1496
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 3: camera on me, please be, please, please be. Okay, teams

1497
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 3: suck at draft and I ain't trying to get none

1498
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 3: of it. That's gonna do it for us here on

1499
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 3: the draft. Make that a short.

1500
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 8: Put that on Twitter, please yeah, clip it, William and

1501
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 8: Mary please, Charles Grant, that's funny, doesn't even have enough

1502
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 8: class to show up to the Seni Bowl, please really?

1503
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 8: And Josh Simmons, mall and big ten talent. Charles Grand

1504
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 8: whooping the damn Towson Keys, please get please about it.

1505
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 4: He's like giving them hugs to me.

1506
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a little grabby at times.

1507
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 11: You know.

1508
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 3: It's just part of it, all right.

1509
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 2: For Nick Harris, for Brian broad As, Fox Lombardi, Bobby Belt,

1510
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 2: Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman saying so

1511
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 2: long from the Draft show.

1512
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 3: We'll see you next week.

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01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,120
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