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Speaker 1: cooler than he was. Ladies and gentlemen, are you ready?

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Speaker 2: Shut up bouts that hit the fan?

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Speaker 3: Welcome to sanction Thursday's unter Wrestling with Ready what's up?

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Speaker 1: Everybody? Welcome back to another episode of Unsanctioned Thursdays, the

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Speaker 1: show that you guys asked for. We're gonna get right

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Speaker 1: to it. Once a month, we bring in independent wrestlers.

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Speaker 1: We're changing it up a little bit. Although he has wrestled,

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Speaker 1: but now he also teaches wrestling to others with dreams.

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Speaker 1: Today's guest is mister Danny Cage of the Famous Monster Factory.

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Speaker 1: You might have seen it on the Apple TV Plus

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Speaker 1: docu series, which is awesome and I love when people

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Speaker 1: kind of start with that. How did that come about?

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Speaker 1: And how was the process of it. Did you love it?

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Speaker 1: Did you hate it? Was it like hard knocks or

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Speaker 4: I wanted it there completely. We've been prepping for this forever.

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Speaker 4: When I bought the Monster Factory back in twenty eleven,

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Speaker 4: we had all these people start hitting us up because

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Speaker 4: I was like, if you're going to do it, we're

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Speaker 4: twenty fifteen they did a mini doc on us that

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Speaker 4: Like an hour? Two hours or like ninety seconds. I

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Speaker 4: And as they got to know us and see everything,

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Speaker 4: Damian Priest is in it, Nick Camarado, all these different

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Speaker 4: He got on board and Apple was interested immediately because

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Speaker 4: and like we were always our students have always been

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Speaker 4: We run our school like the School of Rock because

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Speaker 2: We teach the production.

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Speaker 4: We have people working the switcher during training, we people

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Speaker 4: The worst part about it and what ripped my heart

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Speaker 4: So like immediately like I'm like, oh my god, next

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Speaker 4: I go, well, Kelsey's going to be retired, I'll train

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Speaker 4: in the world in the Hall of Fame. I said

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Speaker 4: all that, like I have an email and all that

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Speaker 2: But it was cool. I got to train Jason Kelcey.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this and then Jeff, you can

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Speaker 1: And I heard about your school. How would I even

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Speaker 2: How easy it is. I make it like right when

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Speaker 4: When the show came out, our prices were like thirty

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Speaker 4: All you have to do is every year redeemed for

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Speaker 4: don't stay. There's no contracts. I don't automatically withdraw. You

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Speaker 4: show up, put in the work. We trained six days

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Speaker 4: from that increase your workload. You can come in two, three, four, five,

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Speaker 4: six days a week. I don't care. We're open all

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Speaker 4: the time. That's as simple as that. And we start slowly.

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Speaker 4: We're not there to try to make you puke. We're

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Speaker 4: not there to bully you. Work at our own case.

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Speaker 4: We have people that are fifty three years old. I

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Speaker 2: He was amazing, and listen to this.

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Speaker 4: It saved his life. During training, he had a leg pain.

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Speaker 4: They checked it out. It was a blood clot and

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Speaker 4: they're like, if you didn't come in, you could have

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Speaker 1: So people, that's right, man, that's it.

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Speaker 2: I'm in.

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Speaker 3: I'm signing up.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, brother.

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Speaker 3: I found out that type of money, Danny Cage.

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Speaker 2: I got that type of money.

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Speaker 4: Let's go, brother, sign up, show up. And everyone laughs

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Speaker 4: at me. You're about like my prices. But I look

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Speaker 4: I go? All right, come here. There's no excuse for

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Speaker 4: you not to do it. It's not the money, it's

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Speaker 4: not this. It's not that you don't have a contract.

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Speaker 4: Just show up and put into work. That's what everything

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Speaker 4: and it forces you bad habits on you, and then

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Speaker 2: This is a cool environment. Everybody gets along, We're all

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Speaker 4: It's it's amazing just to see, you know, we have

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Speaker 4: we have all the everything. It's a big melting pot.

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Speaker 4: It's exactly what you see on the show. It is

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Speaker 1: Well, day one, I'm doing chair shots.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I'm a bad guy, not gonna do it, Danny, I'm

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Speaker 1: I come in day one, I'm chair shot and everybody.

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Speaker 1: That's how this works. Give them a bet, give him

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Speaker 1: you to be like, well, the one I'm most proud

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Speaker 1: of is this because artists are sensitive. But is there

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how far they made it.

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Speaker 2: There's so many, but like so people can relate, I

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Speaker 4: There's three guys that have just really done amazing things

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Speaker 2: So Damien Price, Steve Macklin and QT Marshall.

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Speaker 4: And here's the thing about like Damian Priest and QT,

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Speaker 2: Like that's where people get things twisted.

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Speaker 4: We were wrestling together, we were peers, and then I

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Speaker 4: And then it was like then just coming into train,

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Speaker 4: I'm done. Instead, like he got signed at Ring of

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Speaker 4: And that's like just see them just like overcome that stuff,

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Speaker 4: try to be a state trooper. Didn't do that, came back.

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Speaker 2: And I was a small part of that.

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Speaker 4: I like being surprised, Like I didn't know he was

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Speaker 2: Can I curse? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, and.

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Speaker 4: Then like I'm crying, and then I went, motherfucker just

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Speaker 4: And then I'm going but then like I'm just like,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, like we don't talk about it.

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Speaker 4: So like when I saw that and I saw he

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Speaker 2: So like he's gonna get the feud with Finn and

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Speaker 4: And like he's a smart dude, Like I guarantee you

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Speaker 2: And he did, like we.

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Speaker 4: Now, well we were in we would we would train

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Speaker 4: at six thirty. And like that's you know, that's not

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Speaker 1: Jeff I took up all the time. Take us home, dude,

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Speaker 1: what you got to get something in there?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 1: Well, one love.

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Speaker 3: The name Danny Cagey a big Mortal Kombat fan. That

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Speaker 2: Is there any relation to that? First Here's here's how

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Speaker 4: I was driving down Route one thirty going to the

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Speaker 2: They told me I needed a new name. I'm driving.

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Speaker 4: On the billboard is Nicholas Cage sneak eyes and in

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Speaker 2: Now, that's all.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 3: What I wanted to ask was it I'm a I'm

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Speaker 2: Toxic relationships are like.

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Speaker 3: Whatever is ever something you've seen that maybe a wrestler

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's just tons of red flags. I mean,

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Speaker 4: But like, what's great about the Monster Factory is, like

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Speaker 4: I tell everybody again, find you need fill it. So

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Speaker 2: Of arm bars. There's been many shortages of good people

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Speaker 4: Like I've been married twenty some been together with my

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Speaker 4: I tell everybody My wife knew from day, like our anniversaries.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't a special occasion. It was training. That's my

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't go. Let me blow off this testing.

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Speaker 4: But if you told them, hey, I have class, they'd

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Speaker 4: you now they're now they everything that you just said

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I was like, we'll live

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Speaker 4: That's part of I think that, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Love that.

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Speaker 2: So, like, the thing is, you got to you got

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Speaker 4: And then once they start to realize that, then you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all of it.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it's not selfish. All of a

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Speaker 1: little a little bit more. Dude, I can't thank you enough.

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Speaker 1: You were so generous with your time and with your words,

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Speaker 1: and for anybody listening, uh that's wanting to get into wrestling,

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Speaker 1: I think you said so so much. So I appreciate

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Speaker 1: I wish like that could have beg with you when

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Speaker 4: I wish like seriously, I give out my cell phone,

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Speaker 4: so this is for everybody who wants to text me

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Speaker 4: and hit me up about training.

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Speaker 2: Six oh nine four seven one seven nine zero four.

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Speaker 4: I also give my number out for anyone wants to

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I told my wife i'd stop that after fifty but

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Speaker 4: But I always give out my number six O nine

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Speaker 4: four seven four seven one seven nine zero four Friday, guys,

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Speaker 4: seriously hit me up later.

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Speaker 2: I'd love the bullshit with you because I got some stuff.

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Speaker 4: I want to talk to you about, Like seriously, Oh,

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Speaker 4: can I just plug one thing?

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Speaker 2: Anything you want? All right?

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Speaker 4: I might hear up front of the family. Uh, and

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Speaker 4: my daughters was killed by a train up from my house.

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Speaker 4: It's sorry to bring it down, but nope, nope, it's

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: You're the man, Danny.

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Speaker 2: So we just had a candle a vigil last night

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Speaker 2: and all and it was it was awesome to see

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Speaker 2: the town come together. But sorry to bring you down.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, I didn't apologize for being real man. No,

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Speaker 1: no man should apologize for that ever. And I appreciate

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Speaker 1: Danny Cage, tune into us every single week and we'll

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