1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: What does it mean to be a fighter and a warrior? 2 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Most of us think of soldiers in combat or prize 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: fighters in the ring. We think of physical toughness, but 4 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: fighting is more mental than physical. Behind every great fighter, warrior, 5 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: or athlete is an unrelenting mental toughness that fuels their tenacity. 6 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: It's what gives them to draw the drive to do 7 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: one more set in the weight room or go one 8 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: more round in the ring when they're out of steam. 9 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: When they get knocked down, they get back up. Being 10 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: a fighter starts with conviction and leads to not giving 11 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: up no matter what. Being a warrior means being relentless. 12 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: It's a state of mind That tenacity has helped me 13 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: in my own journey. When I was first commissioned as 14 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: a young officer, I was assigned to the Air Defense 15 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: Artillery branch. But I joined the military to be boots 16 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: on the ground front towards enemy, so I wanted to 17 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: join the infantry. When I didn't get that, I requested 18 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: a transfer, a branch transfer to you guessed it, the infantry, 19 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: and time after time I was denied. I sent a 20 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: request damn near every week until finally my branch manager relented. 21 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: And allowed me to join the infantry. He said something like, congratulations, Sean, 22 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: your branch transfer to the infantry has been approved. Get 23 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 1: ready because you're going to ranger school in a couple 24 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: of months. So I got to Ranger school and I failed. 25 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: I failed the first phase of arranger school. I recycled 26 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: back to the beginning of the patrol phase at Fort Benning, 27 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: but I was told to pack up and go home. 28 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: But I didn't give up. I recycled, and eventually I 29 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: made it through the school and got the coveted Ranger 30 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: tab from my uniform. But for me, being a warrior 31 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: started long before I got off the Chinook in the 32 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: mountains of Afghanistan, before I ever even saw combat, because 33 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: being a fighter starts within, starts in your heart and 34 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: then in your mind. But not every warrior goes into combat. 35 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: We need warriors and fighters here at home as well, 36 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: fighting for truth in our culture, shaping our country from 37 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: within so that it measures up to the sacrifices of 38 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: those who fight forward overseas. We need warriors who take 39 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: arrows from corrupt institutions in the fight for truth, and 40 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: who brush off the attacks and keep on fighting their 41 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: voices rally the rest of the country to join that 42 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: fight as well. My guest today is one of the 43 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: most tenacious fighters I have ever met here at home. 44 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: She's been canceled over and over again, but she has 45 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: always stood back up and got back in the fight, 46 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: each time with more ferocity than before. Her name is 47 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: Wendy Bell. She's a former news anchor with twenty one 48 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: Emmys under her belt. She's been canceled more than a 49 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: few times for refusing to tow the line for the 50 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: medium machine. She is a powerhouse in the fight for 51 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: freedom here in America and one of the most articulate 52 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: voices in the conservative movement today. And I am so 53 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: blessed to call her a friend. Ladies and gentlemen, I 54 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: hope so very much that you enjoy my conversation with 55 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: the great and relentless Wendy Bell. Hey, Wendy, welcome to Battleground. 56 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: It's so great to have you. You know, you and I 57 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: have been friends for a really, really long time, and 58 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: even before that, I was watching you on the news, 59 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: used to work for WTAE and all sorts of all 60 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: sorts of television media experience, and you're you're a legend, 61 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: you know, especially in Pennsylvania, and so it's a it's 62 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: a true honor to have you have you on the show, 63 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: and I'm just so excited you're here. Thank you for coming, well. 64 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 2: Thanks for the invitation. This is really fun to be 65 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 2: a part of this with you because this is where 66 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 2: this is where conservatives get to actually speak their mind. 67 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 2: You know, we're not censoring each other. We're interested in 68 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: actually getting into issues and solving problems and having honest conversations. 69 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: And isn't that refreshing because you don't get that anywhere anymore? 70 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: Absolutely? And hey, the tables have turned because typically you 71 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: are the one that is asking the questions of me, 72 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: and I am the one answering them. So it's an 73 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: interesting dynamic here. So you're the guest now on the show, 74 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: and it's pretty damn cool. So I am. I have 75 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: so many things that I want to ask you about, uh, Wendy, 76 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: And the first of which is, you know, so used 77 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: to work for WTAE and do you remember Do you remember, 78 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: because I remember like you were actually an anchor when 79 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: John Fetterman got busted for trying to hold up that 80 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: block jogger with the shotgun. Do you remember that? 81 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: Oh? 82 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you were an anchor for so 83 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: many pivotal moments in Western Pennsylvania and in Pittsburgh. But 84 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: what has had blown me away about you since then? 85 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: It's like, WTA let you go for some BS reason, 86 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: But you you have been uncancellable, you know. And I 87 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: learned a lesson in Afghanistan of one of my soldiers 88 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: after I got blown up and wounded over there. The 89 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: first thing that he said when I came to he's 90 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: like shaking me. He was like, Sean, wake up, sir, 91 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: Like get back in the fight. That's never been an 92 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: issue for you. It seems. It seems like every single 93 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: time you hit a roadblock or you get knocked down, 94 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: you get back, you back, you get back up, and 95 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: you get in the fight even more passionately than you 96 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: were before. 97 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: It is I will say this, when you know who 98 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: you are and you know what you are, it doesn't 99 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: matter what people say about you. It doesn't matter what 100 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 2: the newspaper says about you, it doesn't matter what people 101 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: whisper about you. And you have a conviction about what 102 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 2: you're doing and what you care about, and it's un wavering. 103 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm kind of like a cockroach, right I 104 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: keep coming back, right. I love that. I love that 105 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: you're starting off with me being fired multiple times and 106 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 2: all this this is great. Thanks John. 107 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: Well, hey, you know what, like, I know what that's like, 108 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: so so I I it's not it's to me, it's 109 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: not about the firing. I think you were fired for 110 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: complete BS reasons, you know. And and it's like, what 111 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: about our culture today? How have we gotten to a point, 112 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: Wendy where we're not allowed to talk about certain issues, 113 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: issues that are definitively true and also issues that are 114 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: important for our culture? 115 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: Right? Well, you know, I like to think in twenty sixteen, 116 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: when I lost my job, I had just signed a 117 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: very big contract, so there were a lot of things 118 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: that went into this. I was one of the first 119 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: really public cancel victims, and I kind of wear that 120 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: as a badge of honor, because you know, I have 121 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: five boys, and if I can show them anything, it's 122 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: how you keep getting up no matter what. And they 123 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: watched that. They were a part of that, and I'm 124 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: so grateful that that happened because I was able to 125 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: discover the super passionate voice I have for conservatism that 126 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: you're not allowed. You weren't then and I wouldn't haven't 127 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: didn't for us on the air. You know, you're supposed 128 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 2: to be impartial. You're supposed to be objective. You're supposed 129 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: to tell stories, you're supposed to tell the news. And 130 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: if I hadn't had that happen to me, I wouldn't 131 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: have taken this sharp detour. I wouldn't have been able 132 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: to take. Literally, I was off for four years. I 133 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: did very little for four I was a mom. It 134 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: was the greatest gift I've had in my life. I 135 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: got to navigate all sorts of strange storms that my 136 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: kids were going through. I got to teach them how 137 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: to drive. I got to see all of these pivotal 138 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: moments in their lives. I would have missed so much. 139 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 2: I am so grateful. And so I have this super 140 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 2: firm backing like you do about faith and family and freedom, 141 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: and it's you know, when you have that on your side, 142 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: who's going to knock you down. 143 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: I think it's amazing, Wendy. I mean, so much of 144 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: your success is clearly about your attitude and the idea 145 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: that we should never quit when we face any sort 146 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: of adversity. I have so many questions based on everything 147 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: that you just told me right now. The first of 148 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: which is like, you've been in media a very long 149 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: time and you talked about, hey, you know you're we're 150 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: in the media, like we're supposed to report the facts 151 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: and let the people decide, right. Was there a moment 152 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: for you where you realize, like, holy cow, this is 153 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: not the case. Things have changed and you know the media, 154 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: this is me talking, but the media seems like just 155 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: a super packer and arm of the Democrat Party today, 156 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: like they work hand in hand, they coordinate messaging together. 157 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: Was there a moment for you when you realize that. 158 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I remember. I don't remember all of the 159 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: circumstances about it, but it was a political situation and 160 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: we covered we covered it in such a way that 161 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: was factually incorrect. And I remember going to one of 162 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: the higher ups in the company and saying, you guys 163 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: want me to say this, but that's not true. That's 164 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 2: not what happened. And Sean I was point blank told 165 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: to shut up and read the prompter. And I was like, 166 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm sorry, you want me to you want 167 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 2: me to lie. And I was basically summarily dismissed. And 168 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: I remember going home to my husband and saying, Joe, 169 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: I don't think I have it anymore. And he's like, 170 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 2: how We've got five kids to put through college. Get 171 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: your butt back at work, right, And that was really 172 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 2: the that was like the unraveling for me where I 173 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: was like, I'm not down with this. And then I 174 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 2: would copy and paste things. You know, you have young 175 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: producers and they would write things and I would rewrite things, 176 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden a story would come 177 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: up that was political in nature that clearly they did 178 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: not write. So I would cut and paste, copy and 179 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 2: paste and put it into Google and it would be 180 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 2: some story from the AP and I'm like, so we're 181 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: just regurgitating stuff that these news mills that are very 182 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: leftist biased right are putting out there. I'm like, that's 183 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 2: that's not what I do. And it was starting to 184 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: conflict in a very serious way than in a huge way. 185 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: How did you process that, because I mean, obviously, yeah, 186 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: you know, I can't imagine Wendy because you did. I mean, 187 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: the reality is is like you're a professional. You're there 188 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: to do a job, as you mentioned, there to report 189 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: the facts. Clearly, that's something that is very important to you. 190 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: What I also find remarkable about you is your commitment 191 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: to thinking critically right, not buying the narratives that are 192 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: being fed to us every day from the media. But 193 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: there's a balance, right, because you have to make a living, 194 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: you have to provide for your family, but you also 195 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: want to be able to feel comfortable where you are. 196 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: How did you manage that for so long? 197 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 2: I was lucky. I had a doctor for a husband, 198 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: so I had some financial backing. You know what it was, Sean. 199 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: So for you it was nine to eleven. Nine to 200 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 2: eleven got you in the military, am I right? 201 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:49,479 Speaker 1: Yeah? Correct? 202 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: So for me, it was the Q Creek mind disaster. 203 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 2: Do you remember that? 204 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: Of course I remember that. Yeah, you were front and 205 00:11:58,360 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: center for that too. 206 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was there for twenty four hours and it 207 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: was NonStop. That changed my life. I got to see 208 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 2: yet again, small town America. I mean, this is Somerset County, Pennsylvania, right, 209 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 2: not really on the map and the American flags and 210 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: the support and the love of community and then the 211 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: overarching love of country. To me, I was like, oh 212 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: my gosh. It fundamentally changed me. And who gets to 213 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: cover a story where everybody lives, everybody always dies. It's 214 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: always tragic. Every story is always terrible. The news is terrible. 215 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 2: And that's why I told so many stories and won 216 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 2: so many Emmy Awards because I did those stories that 217 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 2: were really emotional and they were success stories and fun. 218 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: That Q creig mind thing fundamentally changed my world and 219 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: I realized, you know, I have a job. It's not 220 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 2: who I am, it's what I do. And people trust 221 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: me when they say, yeah you can, you can interview me, 222 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 2: or you can tell my story. They trust me to 223 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: get it right, to tell the truth, to be honest. 224 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: And I saw an awful lot of that that didn't 225 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: go the right way. And it's heartbreaking when you love 226 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: an industry and you see it die before your eyes. 227 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: What about that moment covering that story changed things for you? 228 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: You said it was as obviously I remember it. It 229 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: was powerful, as you mentioned it. Everybody survived. But what 230 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: about that really changed your perspective? 231 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 2: You know? It was when I found out that they 232 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: were all alive. I went like this, and I jumped 233 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 2: up and I went yes. And I was criticized for 234 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: it in the local newspaper. They said I got excited. 235 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 2: I shouldn't be excited. You shouldn't show that kind of emotion. 236 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: And I was like, are you out of your ever 237 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: loving mind. I'm not there as anything other than an 238 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 2: American who was pulling for these families. I watched the 239 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 2: moms and their children waiting to hear if their husbands, 240 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 2: if their fathers were going to make it, and I'm like, 241 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to celebrate, however the hell I want to celebrate. 242 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: That was a magnanimous triumph, all of the things that 243 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: had to happen, all of the right decisions made by 244 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: people who are ignored in society. These aren't people, these engineers, 245 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: these goofballs, They're not paid attention to that the smartest, 246 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: most wonderful, hardworking people in the world, and they get 247 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: crapped on all the time by these elites and people 248 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: in the media. And I'm like, this is where my 249 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: heart is. My heart isn't in the city. My heart 250 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: is in the country, where people work for a living way, 251 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: they get dirty hands and dirty shoes, they and they 252 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: work their butts off and they provide and they do 253 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: the right thing always because it's the right thing to do. 254 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 2: We don't do that enough. And then the next day, 255 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: the next day I started interact with you, Sean. But 256 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: the next day after that, when they were all pulled 257 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: to safety, we had been up for twenty four hours. 258 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: We did our final hit in the morning and there 259 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: was a line of cars it had to be two 260 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: miles long of people who'd been following all that. This 261 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: was international news. We were on television in July. People 262 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: were following it because this doesn't happen like this isn't 263 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: this never happens. And the number of people who just 264 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: pulled up to reach their hand out at the window 265 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: of their car and say thank you. You took me 266 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: on a journey that I needed. American needed that win 267 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: right after nine to eleven, and it was right after 268 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: nine to eleven. We needed that victory and I got 269 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: to be there for it. 270 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's I think that's it's an amazing story. 271 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: But clearly, you know, your appreciation of small town America 272 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: is It's manifestly apparent to me, and I've known you 273 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: for a while. But I think that's something that the 274 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: media in this country at large, especially our national media, 275 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: but even to a lesser extent, our media to Pittsburgh 276 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: or Philadelphia. I think a lot of people see Pennsylvania 277 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: as you know, two cities, Pittsburgh, Philly. But the reality 278 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: is is there are small towns just like Somerset all 279 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: over the state and indeed the country, that feel like 280 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: they're forgotten. And you know, East Palestine is one of those, 281 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: like I live in Beaver County, like in Western Pennsylvania, 282 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: like probably East Palestine is the stones throw away from me. 283 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: You know, those people were devastated by that train derailment 284 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: there in vinyl chloride and toxic plume of gas and 285 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: the controlled burn into the atmosphere. And I know what 286 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: that's like, having been in Afghanistan, you know, with burn pitts, 287 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: breathing that stuff in day in and day out. I 288 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: know how over time, like you might not realize it 289 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: at the time, but the stuff that you're breathing in 290 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: is toxic. And I realized like when that happened. I mean, 291 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: Joshapiro basically gave a press conference that said, like I 292 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: think the day of you know, basically, evacuate this area 293 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: or die. And then he then he gallivanted off off 294 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl right and clout chased out there, 295 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: while the people in East Palestina, how and the people 296 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: in Western Pennsylvania including in Beaver County and around the 297 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh area suffered And that to me is emblematic, Wendy, 298 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: of the problem that that we face in this country, 299 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: not just in Pennsylvania, but all over the country, of 300 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: leaders who are detached from the problems of everyday America. 301 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: And I think that's what when you saw President Trump 302 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: go there, right, he was there yesterday, did you have 303 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: did you get a chance to watch some of the 304 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: videos of him engaging with the I look, I I people. 305 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: I love President Trump. He's been good to me. I'm 306 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: friends with Don Junior, so like all cards on the 307 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: table like but but I've never seen a president in 308 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: my lifetime Democrat or Republican. It resonate with small town 309 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: people like that, right, people, the right that there was 310 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: a guy. 311 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 2: There was a guy who you know, he's just a 312 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: working man. You can tell he's just a hard working dude. 313 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: He's younger than we are. He could probably be my son. 314 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: And he's got his camera out and he's holding it 315 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,239 Speaker 2: up and he doesn't look like a guy who does 316 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 2: a lot of selfies. Right, he's doing this video and 317 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 2: behind him are all these people who are scared, who've 318 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 2: been forgotten who nobody's paying attention to. And the motorcade 319 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 2: is coming through and he looked like Christmas morning and 320 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,239 Speaker 2: it literally almost made me cry. That is the That 321 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 2: is the connection. Nobody, the people in the uniparty, the elites, 322 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 2: they don't understand. They don't understand, they don't want to understand. 323 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 2: They can't understand. Which is why Donald Trump scares them 324 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 2: so much. Which is why someone like me scares them 325 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 2: on a much lower level. But why it scares them 326 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 2: because we speak about basic values that everybody understands except them. 327 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: And to see him show up in the mud in 328 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 2: the rain in small town Pennsylvania on the border of Ohio, 329 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 2: it spoke volumes. Spoke volumes. 330 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: The guy is out there before Joe Biden's own transportation 331 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: secretary got there, like Pete Budageg went out there today. 332 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: And he's wearing like this hard hat in the safety 333 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: glasses and his little reflective vest. He looked like he 334 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: was a five year old playing dress up. Didn't know 335 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: it looked like he didn't know what the hell he 336 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,959 Speaker 1: was doing. Surrounded himself with bureaucrats. You know, he serves hell, 337 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: wasn't going to open himself up to having a conversation 338 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: with the town who would most assuredly boo him. 339 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 2: No, they wouldn't because they're two classes. 340 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: That's actually true. That's actually true. 341 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 2: He wouldn't. They wouldn't because they're not They're not the 342 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: kind of people. The small town America, the heartbeat of 343 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: America is not used to handouts. They're not used to help. 344 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 2: They're used to helping each other, you know. And I 345 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 2: learned that when I was in journalism school as a 346 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 2: master's student at the University of Missouri. I was there 347 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 2: for the flood of nineteen ninety three. It was devastating, 348 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 2: like to see cities, to see communities washed away. There 349 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 2: was no federal government swooping in with the help. It 350 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 2: was neighbors from other areas. It was neighbors from other 351 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: states coming in, sandbagging, providing food, driving in miles hours 352 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 2: away and helping each other out. That is the heartbeat 353 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 2: of America, right. And it's classy, and it's quiet, and 354 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 2: it doesn't it's not boastful. It doesn't want to be 355 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 2: in the spotlight. It's embarrassed by the spotlight. Why do 356 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 2: you think you're so embarrassed when I call you a 357 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 2: war hero or I say that you led your men 358 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 2: and because of that, you know how many came back alive. 359 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 2: I mean, you're uncomfortable and you will always deflect and 360 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 2: say if it wasn't with my team, if it wasn't 361 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 2: my platoon, this wouldn't. You will do that. It's intrinsic 362 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: in you. That's intrinsic in small town America. It is 363 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 2: not in people who are putting profits over people and 364 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: are trying to puddle jump up to the top. Politics 365 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 2: is dirty. It's not about service, it's about glamour. It's 366 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 2: about power, it's about control, and it's about money. The 367 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 2: people in East Palestine, Ohio don't want money. They just 368 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: want to drink the water. 369 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: That's that's insanely powerful. I mean, I have to do 370 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: you do you feel is this the reason why you 371 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: keep fighting your affinity for small town America people who, 372 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: by the way, you're absolutely right, and that they feel 373 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: like they're completely forgotten and left behind. Is this part 374 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: of the reason why why you fight so hard, why 375 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: you're so tenacious? 376 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 2: You know, when Donald Trump called into my show, and 377 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: it was September or whatever, and I always knew I 378 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: was going to get him at some point, because there 379 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: aren't a lot of conservative women out there who have 380 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 2: a job like I have, so clearly they were going 381 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: to know who I was. And they found out, and 382 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 2: he was excited to call in and I was delighted 383 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 2: to take the call. But the end of it was 384 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 2: I had the opportunity to say to him. I said, 385 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 2: mister President, I just want to say thank you. And 386 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: you could hear him sort of like gasp, and I said, 387 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 2: we watch what you do. We know what you've said, 388 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: we know the barbs that you've taken, so that we 389 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: don't I'm like, there aren't words to thank you for that, 390 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 2: Like you've been enemy number one because you're the threat 391 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: to these people who want to destroy dis great American 392 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 2: experiment and you've stood in the way for us. Like 393 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 2: I don't have words, and he was like I he 394 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 2: was speechless, and as I don't think you hear that enough. 395 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: Wait, President Trump was speechless. What did he say? Did 396 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: he said? I mean, if you can talk about it, 397 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: like I don't want to put you in a bad spot, 398 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: but like, what did he tell you? 399 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 2: You know what? He was very humble and very dear, 400 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 2: and whether it was true or not, he was like, 401 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: you know what, We've been paying attention to you for 402 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: a while now, and I'm really excited to talk to you. 403 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 2: I'm really proud of what you've been doing. Whether or 404 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 2: not that's true, who knows. In my heart, i'd like 405 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 2: to believe it, But just to talk to him was 406 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 2: really powerful. And it wasn't like some geeky but it 407 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 2: was rather I have in my heart what he does 408 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: too and what America feels. 409 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean, clearly, it's a deep abiding love for America, 410 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: and that's what That's what I appreciate so much about 411 00:23:54,920 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: President Trump. And like you know, it drives me crazy 412 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: how people disingenuously attack him for almost everything. Now, you know, 413 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: do I agree with everything that he says? Like, of course, 414 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: of course not. But like what I tell people is that, well, 415 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: you know, come to Thanksgiving at my house. You'll see that. 416 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: My own family, my mother and I don't agree all 417 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: the time. So I reject the notion that as as 418 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: conservatives we always have to agree. In fact, when conservatives 419 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: always agree on things, group think happens, and then bad 420 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: things happen like this, I like, like the whole notion 421 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: of this. This war in Ukraine is a perfect example 422 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: of that, Conservatives will say, well, we need to we 423 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: need to fund Ukraine and fight for freedom there so 424 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: that we have it here. And I just take a 425 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: step back, and I think to myself, and really, President 426 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: Trump was the catalyst for me to start thinking about 427 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: these things differently, Like wait a second, Like maybe we 428 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: don't need to do that, you know, maybe we should 429 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,239 Speaker 1: be focusing on the fact that we have you know, 430 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: millions of illegal immigrants coming across our southern border and 431 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: it's a tidal wave of human suffering, And maybe we 432 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: should focus on the lawlessness in our cities and the 433 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: war on police, or maybe we should focus on our 434 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: the debt and deficit that's soaring, or the fact that 435 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: like it seems as if every day Joe Biden or 436 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: the Uniparty as you call it, like there's just coming 437 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: after our freedoms and just whittling away at them little 438 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: by little, Like why are we worried about a war 439 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: in Ukraine by the way, which Biden has a weird 440 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: relationship with, you know, the oligarchs there, And like, I 441 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: don't know what's happening with the money. There's clear I 442 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: clearly don't know the mission other than stop putin which, 443 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: by the way, he's a thug. If he died tomorrow, 444 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't care. But like, there's something, there's something going 445 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: on here. And I think that Trump when you talk 446 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: about him being a threat to the uniparty, uniparty, this 447 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: is like what I mean, that man went to Washington 448 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: for four years, Wendy, and I've he equal equal parts 449 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: pissed off Democrats and Republicans like on a day to 450 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: day basis. And I think to myself, like, that's exactly 451 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 1: why I voted for him twice because of that, because 452 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: of that perspective, because he brings something different, and you 453 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: can just see and feel, you know, how just how 454 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,719 Speaker 1: much the establishment, both the Democrats and Republicans and the 455 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: corporate media don't want him to run again. You know, 456 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: isn't it crazy? 457 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 2: Amen? You know? And the thing that when we're bailing 458 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 2: out all of these other people, and I think we 459 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 2: all know what it is and everything is just a 460 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 2: giant money laundering operation, I think. 461 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,959 Speaker 3: But you know what, the if I were a leader 462 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 3: of a community, if I was the mayor of Pittsburgh 463 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: or a governor, and this is going to sound so 464 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 3: trivial and very trite, in the world of problems that 465 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 3: we have in this country, I. 466 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 2: Would pick up the freaking trash. You know, if you 467 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 2: don't have people who respect what they have because they 468 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 2: weren't brought up the right way, and we have filth 469 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: in this state. I mean, Sean, you drive the parkways 470 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 2: that I drive. It's disgusting. There's just no there's no pride, 471 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 2: there's no there's no sense of It's all about entitlement 472 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: and handout rather than what can I do to make 473 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 2: this situation better. If you live in filth, you'll have 474 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: a filthy life. And that is kind of where we are. 475 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 2: I mean, what. 476 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: Happened with the Democrats though, though, Wendy, like, if you 477 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: think about like JFK asked, not what your country can 478 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: do for you, but what you can do for your country, 479 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: that perspective in the modern day Democrat Party is completely gone. 480 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: And you talk to Democrats, especially in Western Pennsylvania, you know, 481 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: there is a massive disconnect between them. You know, my 482 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: grandfather was a lifelong Union Democrat, Like it's just who 483 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: he was. You know, if you were born and raised 484 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: in Western Pennsylvania and you were a working class person, 485 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: like you were a Democrat, but would he would be 486 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: rolling over in his grave today at what the Democrat 487 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: Party has become. And it seems like it doesn't even 488 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: seem like it's true that they don't. I mean, is 489 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: it bad for me to say that I don't think 490 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: that Joe Biden or Pete buddhaj Edge went to East Palestine, 491 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: Ohio until like almost twenty days later, because that's a 492 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: place that voted for Republicans by almost over seventy plus 493 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: percent for Republicans, and Ohio is a place that is 494 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: a Republican state. Like I'm a cynical person, but I 495 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: personally believe that the Democrats or the radical left, say 496 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,239 Speaker 1: the radical left, because I don't want to indict all 497 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: Democrats with this, but they don't see their politics like 498 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: we see our politics. They look at their politics like 499 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: a religion, and the ends justify the means. And so 500 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 1: I think that they just blew off East Palestine, Ohio 501 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: because they're a Republican area and they frankly don't care. 502 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: Well. Even more insidious, perhaps is that it's almost all white. 503 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I. 504 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: Mean it's literally think I think the population of these 505 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 2: Palestine is something like zero point three percent black. I 506 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 2: mean literally, it's that white. It's white working class, which 507 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: shouldn't matter and doesn't matter to the lion's share of us. 508 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 2: I don't care who's hurting in terms of their demographic. 509 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: You know, what can we do to help? And there's 510 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: just that's why the whole trash issue galls me, because 511 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: it's indicative of just the unraveling of the respect for 512 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: what we have. You know, people are dying to get 513 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 2: here through our borders and through the Darien Gap and 514 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: all these other places where it's so treacherous because of 515 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 2: what is here. And we have people who've never actually 516 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: they have no skin in the game because they've been 517 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 2: given it. They don't they haven't gone to Afghanistan, they 518 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: haven't knocked on doors and wondered, is somebody going to 519 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: try to shoot me on the other side, by and large, 520 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: unless they live in Philadelphia, And then sorry, you know 521 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 2: what I mean, But like you don't. All you do 522 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: is bitch, and you bitch about stuff that is inconsequential 523 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: by and large, because the problems they are beating a 524 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 2: drum for are manufactured, by and large, And I would 525 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: understand why it would be a very difficult thing to 526 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 2: be a Democrat in this country right now because their 527 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: party has left them. It's become radically extreme at the 528 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 2: whims of global elites and everything that they put their 529 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: money in sucks. It's terrible, from children to education. Our 530 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 2: schools suck, our roads suck, our infrastructure sucks. The money 531 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: is where's it coming from. Gavin Newsom just yesterday announced that, oh, sorry, 532 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: we have a budget deficit that's between seven and ten billion. 533 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,959 Speaker 1: Dollars and oh, by the way, we're going to get 534 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: rid of all gas powered cars by twenty thirty five. 535 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 2: Wh's is and lawnlowers and bleef blowers. And it's like, 536 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 2: you know what, dude, how about we fix some stuff. 537 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 2: You know that's serious, because you're not going to move 538 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 2: the needle changing what we do in the United States 539 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 2: When you have India and you've got China and you've 540 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 2: got populations of billions of people who aren't changing what 541 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: they're doing in terms of greenhouse crap. It's all a sham. 542 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 2: It's all a scam, and anybody who's paying attention who 543 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: loves America knows it. 544 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at what's happening with this 545 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: whole green movement, it's really not about the environment. It's 546 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: not about the climate. It's simply about a method of 547 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: control and money. And it's all a way too for 548 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: the government to strip freedom away from the people. For example, 549 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: like if climate activists actually cared about the climate and 550 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: the planet, then they would abhor the mass production of 551 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: electric cars because in order for them to manufacture their 552 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: batteries or critical components of that vehicle, they to earth. Yes, 553 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: they have to mine for rare earth minerals. And if 554 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: you go to countries where they do that and you 555 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: tour the mines, they are literally drilling, you know, thousands 556 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: of feet down into the earth, running little trucks up 557 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: the ramps on the side, and they're pulling these minerals out, 558 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: and they're pouring acid on them, and they're distilling them, 559 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: and then they're putting them in furnaces and distilling them 560 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: some more. They're destroying the earth to pull those rare 561 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: earth minerals out just for a few electric cars. And oh, 562 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: by the way, it's completely not sustainable. They call these 563 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: things rare earth minerals for a reason. They're pretty rare. 564 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: And so the Democrats are advocating for a plan that 565 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: they know is not sustainable. But they know if people 566 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: are using electric stoves and driving electric cars, then they 567 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: can flip a switch when they don't comply and stop 568 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: them from traveling. And that's what the whole climate change 569 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: bullshit is all about, is stripping people's freedom away. 570 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 2: And if these people cared about the climate and the 571 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 2: environment and the air, why aren't they in East Palestino, Ohio? 572 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: What a great point. I mean, if there's not something 573 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: that they can grift off it, like they can't the 574 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: lobbyists can't sell solar panels in Washington, d C. Then 575 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: they don't care in China exactly exactly. And if you 576 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: cared about the climate, if something, if climate change was 577 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: something that was you were really passionate about, then why 578 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: aren't we investing more in oil and natural gas here 579 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: that we have in Pennsylvania that you know, with President 580 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: Trump as he embraced the natural gas industry in Pennsylvania, 581 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: we've been able to drive our carbon emissions down every 582 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: year for the last twenty years just by embracing fracking. 583 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: But they don't care about that, you know, they don't 584 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: care about that. They would rather they would rather grift 585 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: off electric vehicles and virtue signal and destroy the earth 586 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: at the same time. Also they can go that they 587 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: can gain control over the American peace. That's bottom line, 588 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: that's what the agenda is. 589 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: Well, and the good news is that when you start 590 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 2: sniffing around and saying that, then they'll come up with 591 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 2: something else, like a spy balloon or transgender surgeries. There 592 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 2: are all this other bs that is just completely preposterous. 593 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 2: I mean, every single thing they do, think about it, 594 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 2: every single thing they do sucks. It steals something from you, 595 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 2: brings the world to more mediocre average expectation, makes everything 596 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 2: unattainable and unaffordable. And that's the point. That's the point, 597 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 2: because then you need a high need the governments. Why 598 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 2: do you think housing projects don't work? Housing projects don't 599 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 2: work because the people who live there have no skin 600 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 2: in the game. They own nothing. You take care of 601 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 2: what you own. When you're sixteen and your mom and 602 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 2: dad don't buy you a car and you have to 603 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 2: work a summer job mowing lawns to buy that car, 604 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 2: Guess who takes care of that car? You do when 605 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: it's given to you from the government. Here, stay here, here, 606 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 2: do this. Nobody cares. It's chaos. It's madness, it's fent all, 607 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 2: it's criminality, it's soft on crime, defund the police, it's 608 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 2: on purpose, all on. 609 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: Well, Wendy, how so how do you raise five boys 610 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: in this like? 611 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 2: So? 612 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: You, first of all, you've got to be worried about 613 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: their future because think I've never seen things fall apart 614 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,479 Speaker 1: in this country so fast. You know, things under President Trump, 615 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: the economy was booming, we were energy independent, we had 616 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,439 Speaker 1: we were on the brink of peace in the Middle East, 617 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,919 Speaker 1: something that I thought would never be possible. Law enforcement yours, yeah, 618 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: didn't didn't involve Yeah, everyone talking about, oh, Trump's going 619 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: to cause World War three, but we weren't. Didn't get 620 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: involved in any wars. And that's something that's deeply, deeply 621 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: personal to me as well, because I know and understand 622 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: what it means to be in a war and to 623 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: lose people that you love and you care about. So 624 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: and to me, you know what comes part and parcel. 625 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: The ultimate responsibility of a leader is to is to 626 00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: pursue peace. The highest aspiration of America should be peace 627 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 1: through strength, but peace nonetheless. But how do you raise 628 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: your boys in a world that seems like it's completely 629 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: coming apart of the seams. 630 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 2: You have five kids, now, don't you. 631 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 1: I see what you did there? You turned it around 632 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,439 Speaker 1: on me. Yes, yes, I do. And I'm worried about 633 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: it every day, Wendy, every single day. I worry about 634 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: their future and their opportunities and the kind of country 635 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: that they'll inherit. 636 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 2: That's why you're doing this. That's why I do it too. 637 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: What do you tell them about this stuff? 638 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 2: Like? 639 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: What do you tell them? Do you have to tell 640 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: them anything about like, for example, drag Queen's Story hours 641 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: in schools, or teaching our children about sexually explicit stuff 642 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: in first, second, third grade, or you know, the idea 643 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: that America is not an inherently good country. America is 644 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: inherently evil. That must be fun da mentally transform from 645 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: the ground of them. You've got to You've got two 646 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: kids in college. You know that they're being taught that 647 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 1: stuff there? You know it? 648 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 2: They tell them how They tell me about it too. 649 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, So how do you what you're a mom and 650 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 1: and you're a fighter, Well, how do you make sure 651 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: your kids have those same traits in them as well? 652 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 2: They watch us, they know they know they're going to 653 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 2: make the same stupid mistakes that we made. I just 654 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 2: you know, the thing that scares me is is the drugs. 655 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 2: That scares me more than anything else. Two kids in college, 656 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:40,280 Speaker 2: three in high school, and they're all Catholic and Catholic stuff. 657 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 2: So there is some respite there, but there's the Catholic 658 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 2: stuff is still corrupted by totally social justice bullshit. 659 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: Totally. I mean it might by the way, I'm Catholic too. 660 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: My kids are in Catholic school as well, and I 661 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 1: see some of the stuff that this that this pope 662 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: is saying, and I'm like, what, you. 663 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 2: Know, You engage them, you ask them what they think. 664 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 2: You know what scares me the most? Sean So they are. 665 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 2: They are bright, they are funny, they're independent thinkers. The 666 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 2: girls out there are crazy. There are a lot of 667 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 2: very malleable, insecure young people, boys and girls, and the phone, 668 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 2: the videos, the constant barrage of imagery that somebody else 669 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 2: is doing things better than you, or they look better, 670 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 2: or they're having more fun. This fear of missing out. 671 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 2: It's very psychological. And I think the best thing that 672 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 2: you can do is create a stable home environment with 673 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 2: your wife and with my husband. Marriage is far from 674 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 2: easy and it's far from perfect, but when you have 675 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 2: that united like team front, it's not about raunchy and 676 00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 2: it's not about perfect. It's about love and support and 677 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,800 Speaker 2: them and they watch you do that, So I think 678 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,280 Speaker 2: good begets good. 679 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 1: Do you think that? Are you going to encourage your kids, 680 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,439 Speaker 1: your boys, to be involved like you are, to run 681 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: for office, to stay in the fight. 682 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 2: No, I don't encourage them to do anything. I encourage 683 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 2: them to tell the truth and to be honest and 684 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 2: to admit when they blow it, because we don't have 685 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 2: a lot of that in this country. I mean, honestly, 686 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 2: if peed Boodh judge, and this is a dumak example, 687 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 2: but it's really not. If ped Boodh judge today when 688 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 2: you finally showed up in East Palestino, Ohio, if the 689 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 2: woman chirping at him saying, what's your message to these people? 690 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 2: Why does it take you so long? If he had 691 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 2: turned to the camera and said, or turned to her 692 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 2: and said, I blew it, that's on me. I should 693 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 2: have been here, I should have been with you people, 694 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 2: and I'm embarrassed and there's not words that I could say, 695 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,919 Speaker 2: which is why I'm walking away right now, Because I'm 696 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 2: hanging my head and I'm sorry and I won't do 697 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 2: this again ever. But see that involves somebody with charisma, 698 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 2: with character and who cares, and those three c's are 699 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 2: not part of his vocabulary. I try to teach my 700 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 2: kids that you're gonna make mistakes, don't lie, don't hide it, 701 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 2: come forward and be like, that was me, my mistake, 702 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 2: I apologize. What can I do to fix it? All 703 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 2: of a sudden, you take the fury out of somebody's 704 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 2: sales and they're like, you know, if one of your 705 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 2: kids does something in your house and they break something 706 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 2: or they do something and they say to you that 707 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,240 Speaker 2: was I don't dad, I'm so as my son, I'm sorry, 708 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 2: that's okay, and they say, you know I did this. 709 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 2: What are you going to do yell at them? No, 710 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 2: you're going to say, you know, I wish you would 711 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 2: have been more careful or you knew better, but already 712 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 2: you're diffused. Like seventy five percent people who don't care 713 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 2: don't get that. 714 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 1: I totally agree what you're so in that there is 715 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: such a lack of humility and so many of our 716 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: of our leaders, and you're right, had Pete Boudage Edge 717 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,919 Speaker 1: just said I messed up. I'm sorry. I'm here now, 718 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do everything that I can to make 719 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: things better. Or you know, maybe I didn't take this 720 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: as seriously. There's a thousand different things that he could 721 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: have said other than just like yeah, other than just 722 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 1: like put his palm in the face and talk to 723 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 1: my press secretary, or like you're so right. 724 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 2: What involves that involves authenticity? And people are afraid of 725 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 2: being themselves. And I don't know why, because you know 726 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 2: what people like you know, So on my on my 727 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 2: radio show, we livestream the whole thing. We have up 728 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 2: to seven thousand or more people watching live at any time, 729 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 2: which is a great thrill. 730 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: You built a movement, Wendy. You've built a movement, for sure. 731 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 2: But they don't care what I look like. They see 732 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 2: me foostering with my hair and putting on lipstick and 733 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 2: making fun of it and joking that I am chemically 734 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 2: dependent because I'm fifty two and I've got gray hair, 735 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 2: and but they're like yeah, because they're going through the 736 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 2: same thing. And I tell personal stories about my boys 737 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 2: and things that frighten me, and they say yeah, because 738 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 2: they're going through it too, Like we're all in it together, 739 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 2: and yet we have these people who want to pretend. 740 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 2: And that lack of authenticity, I think kills everyone. You know, 741 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 2: it kills you be who you are. Nobody expects you 742 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 2: to be perfect. Right. It's disarming when somebody trips, just 743 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 2: not up air force one steps, but you know when 744 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 2: somebody is not perfect and we don't live in that 745 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,280 Speaker 2: world right now? 746 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: Well, I mean here's the thing. Like you, I think, 747 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,359 Speaker 1: at least on the conservative side of the aisle, when 748 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: you talk about Wendy, you know, hey, be yourself right, 749 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 1: you had to go through some pretty terrible shit like 750 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: being fired from I mean seriously, like I say fired, 751 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: and I don't mean it like in a way that 752 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: you did not. 753 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 2: I was an international racist. I was an international racist. 754 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 2: We had family members in freaking where were they? They 755 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 2: were like a million miles away, and they're like, what happened? 756 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,280 Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, for the love of all things really? 757 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,320 Speaker 2: And I think the thing that made it even worse 758 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 2: is that the station that fired me. And for those 759 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 2: who aren't familiar with this, I wrote about black on 760 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 2: black crime in my neighborhood. After a family of six, 761 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 2: six black people, literally two miles from where I raised. 762 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 2: My sons were shot and killed by you know, by 763 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 2: AK forty sevens and by thugs, by gangs and thugs, 764 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 2: and I spoke up about it and I'm like, I 765 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,359 Speaker 2: can't care more about my neighbors than my neighbors care 766 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 2: about my neighbors. What are we doing? And I got 767 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 2: asked for that, and then the station put up an 768 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 2: apology like I had written it. I'm like, I won't 769 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 2: apologize for what I said. I won twenty Emmys at 770 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 2: that place, twenty of my twenty one Emmys. I wanted 771 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 2: that TV station for telling stories. I think thirteen of 772 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 2: them are about black people, about my African American neighbors. No, 773 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 2: my black neighbors who have risen above ridiculous circumstance and 774 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 2: get no publicity at all for the magnanimous things that 775 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 2: they do in their neighborhoods every single day. And I'd 776 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 2: said to them, why don't we ever cover these stories? 777 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 2: So I started to and amazingly, people were hungry for 778 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 2: these kinds of stories, because not everything sucks. And then 779 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 2: I became a racist. We're saying, can we stop killing 780 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 2: each other? Is it possible? And it was interesting because 781 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 2: a dude for the Pittsburgh Courier, a black newspaper in town, 782 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 2: was the one who stood up. And he's like, so 783 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,800 Speaker 2: we've got a white woman saying what the black community 784 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 2: doesn't have the balls to say, and she's the one 785 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 2: who gets the acts, all right, I mean, I know 786 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 2: who I am. You know who you are? 787 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: Well. I mean, look, I know what it's like to 788 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: be utterly destroyed by the media. I know what it's 789 00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 1: like to be branded something that you're not. Anybody that 790 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 1: paid any attention to my senate race knows I had 791 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: every media outlet in the country at my custody trial. 792 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: I had every media outlet in the country, even some 793 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: conservative ones, just branding me as something that I was not. 794 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,359 Speaker 1: And so I few people understand what you went through 795 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: more than I than than I do, Wendy. And like 796 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: I would say, what I was building to before was 797 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 1: that you know exactly who you are, and that is 798 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: manifestly apparent in the movement that you've built. And I 799 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: think that's part of the reason why people who watch 800 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: your show adore you, because you are authentic. You do 801 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: say exactly what you mean, and there's such a there's 802 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: such a desire for that, you know, not not like 803 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 1: I'm perfect in every way, right, Like it's sort of 804 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: warts and all approach to life because we all have 805 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 1: our own stuff, right, But there, like there were like 806 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 1: you didn't get there overnight, Like you went through some 807 00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: tough stuff, like this whole thing you just laid out 808 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 1: with the new station that you worked at, and then 809 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,359 Speaker 1: it was like and then the next thing, the next 810 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: thing I turned around, is you got you're like gaining 811 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: all this steam and traction and you're doing these awesome 812 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 1: live stream shows on Facebook. I know because I joined 813 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 1: you on a bunch of them, and all of a 814 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,280 Speaker 1: sudden Facebook Facebook kind of cuts you off, it says, 815 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,240 Speaker 1: but then you find another. 816 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 2: Or twice in radio, Yeah, twice in radio. 817 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. It's it's it's ridiculous, and like at that point. 818 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 2: It's just game on. 819 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 1: It's not I struggle with it, Wendy. It's not I 820 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 1: don't you know. 821 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 2: It's not much for you. It's still fresh for you. 822 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 1: It's not easy. 823 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 2: You know, there's time. I mean, like you know, the 824 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 2: cycle of grieving. You know, not only did I lose 825 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 2: a job that I thought I really loved. 826 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 1: You had twenty plus emmys. You had twenty plus emmys. 827 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 2: It matter doesn't matter how many metals do you have. 828 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,240 Speaker 2: Do you walk around with them on your chest? No, 829 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 2: it doesn't make who you are. It's a chapter of 830 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 2: your life. But what happened was they took away a 831 00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:00,399 Speaker 2: career that I loved. But what I realized was all 832 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,239 Speaker 2: of that, the career that I thought I loved had changed, 833 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 2: and I wasn't down with the change. So I was 834 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 2: either going to get fired or I was going to 835 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 2: have to end up walking away. And the Good Lord 836 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 2: forced my hand and pushed me in a direction I 837 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 2: never could have imagined. Like if that hadn't happened, you 838 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 2: and I are going to have this conversation in two years, 839 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 2: and you're going to go back on this and you're 840 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 2: going to see that the wounds are still raw for you, 841 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 2: but they heal and you'll be in a different direction, 842 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 2: doing something completely different that you had never imagined in 843 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,840 Speaker 2: a million years. And you're going to look back and 844 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 2: you're going to stay like, Amen, thank you for that. 845 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 2: And if you think that there's not a Lord. 846 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: How do you how did you keep the right attitude 847 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 1: when you were going through all that stuff? Like what 848 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, you've got five boys, and you love 849 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,839 Speaker 1: this country. You're a true believer, and like what it's 850 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:00,720 Speaker 1: was it at times? 851 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 2: I remember the next day after I got fired, I 852 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 2: had to take my son, who my oldest son, who 853 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,399 Speaker 2: was then a sophomore in high school, hadn't yet gotten 854 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 2: his driver's license and it was a terrible rainy day 855 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 2: and he missed the school bus. So I did drive 856 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 2: him to school, and he flipped on the radio and 857 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 2: two guys who host a morning show were tearing me 858 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 2: to shreds, calling me this, calling me that racist, this, 859 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 2: racist that, And I looked at him and I said, honey, 860 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 2: I am so sorry because this is going to get 861 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 2: hard for you, and he goes, mom, oh, I'm sorry 862 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:39,799 Speaker 2: for you. And then I had to go to the 863 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 2: grocery store that day, and being a very public figure, 864 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 2: everybody knew who I was, and the looks that was 865 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,800 Speaker 2: that was uncomfortable. But you make a decision, You're like, 866 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 2: what am I not gonna I'm not gonna go out 867 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,240 Speaker 2: with my life. I'm not going to stand up straight. 868 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 2: If anything, I stood up straight or and I was 869 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,799 Speaker 2: like I know who I am. You people can suck 870 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 2: it like whatever, and you know what you learn? And 871 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,720 Speaker 2: here's the thing. You know what you learn your world. 872 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 2: So you're born, you have a very small circle mom 873 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 2: and dad. Then it gets bigger. You have siblings. Then 874 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:12,839 Speaker 2: you go to school and it gets bigger, and you 875 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 2: get a job and it gets bigger, and you get married, 876 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,720 Speaker 2: and then you do this and then you have children 877 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 2: and it gets getting smaller and it gets a little 878 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,280 Speaker 2: bit smaller, right, and then it's just you and your partner, 879 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 2: just you, all right, that's the cycle. I was able 880 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 2: to eliminate a lot of dead weight real fast. You 881 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 2: know where your friends are? You do? 882 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 1: It's like that is something that I learned? 883 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 2: Is that with the charade? 884 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:40,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it is amazing to me. Yeah. 885 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 1: The people that matter stay, the people that know you. 886 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 2: Why do you think Andrew is still with you? 887 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's true. I mean, I mean. 888 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,879 Speaker 2: It's brought to me. It's my husband to me. You're 889 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 2: very small. You don't need a whole lot. There's very 890 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 2: little that you need, Sean Parnell to make you happy. 891 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 2: You know, money makes things a little bit more comfortable, 892 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 2: but that's not the drive. The drive is being able 893 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 2: to be who you are, how you are, where you are, 894 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 2: with the people you want to be with, without any 895 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 2: pretenses in fakeness. 896 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 1: Done you so you clearly don't give a shit about 897 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 1: you know, what the trolls say or any like you. 898 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's hard for me because I'm like, I'm 899 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,760 Speaker 1: kind of like this is all like a learning experience 900 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: for me. Like I've been in the public eye for 901 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 1: ten years prior to politics, but like I am a 902 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,879 Speaker 1: people pleaser, Wendy like, and it was like, by the way, 903 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,799 Speaker 1: everywhere I went, I would do thirty five to forty 904 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: public events a year for my books, Democrats, Republicans. I 905 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,319 Speaker 1: was copasetic with everybody in the moment I ran for 906 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 1: office and had that R after my name, it was 907 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:50,760 Speaker 1: like fifty percent of this country absolutely hated me, and 908 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 1: it was hard for me because I'm a people pleaser. 909 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 1: I like getting along with people. But if you know, 910 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,880 Speaker 1: you look for silver linings and things, and clearly, like 911 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 1: what you said is like this the experience taught you 912 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 1: a lot. It sounds like you're actually grateful for it 913 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 1: now because it's opened up you know, had an opportunity 914 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,479 Speaker 1: to be Yeah, like you. 915 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 2: Many times, I'm like, thank you. 916 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's amazing. It's amazing the perspective on all 917 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 1: of it, and we'll get there. And the idea just 918 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,879 Speaker 1: being grateful, you know, like being grateful for the things 919 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,280 Speaker 1: that you have. I think it's just so important in life, 920 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,479 Speaker 1: you know, even when you're going through hardship, just taking 921 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 1: the opportunity and saying, you know what, like, yeah, maybe 922 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: shit's hitting the fan a little bit right now. I'm great. 923 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 2: Donald Trump put you in a spotlight and accelerated the 924 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,799 Speaker 2: political career for you, the likes of which I don't 925 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,279 Speaker 2: think anybody could possibly know. 926 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 4: You found you, you found yourself in a fight that 927 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,360 Speaker 4: you didn't ask for, but you got called out to serve, 928 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,959 Speaker 4: and you served before and you walked into the war 929 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 4: and you served again. 930 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 2: However, you're not a political creature. You've learned to become 931 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 2: a little bit of that, but it's not fundamental to 932 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,319 Speaker 2: who you are. Are you serve. This is why I 933 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 2: say that we need more veterans in office, because they're 934 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 2: mission focused, not me focused. There's a difference. For the 935 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 2: love of all that is, Holly, shut up, I thought 936 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 2: I turned that off. 937 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 1: Jesus, you're in heart, you're in high demand. 938 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 2: No, I'm not. It's so annoying. You are mission focused, 939 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,400 Speaker 2: and that is why this whole transition for you is weird, 940 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 2: because you have to become me focused. Now, you have 941 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 2: to focus on what you are mission but your message 942 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 2: is and it's got to be you, you, you, you, 943 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,839 Speaker 2: And that is weird and it's going to be uncomfortable. 944 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 2: And the raw emotions of being dragged through the mud, 945 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 2: even though you know who you are, don't forget that, right, 946 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 2: They cannot take that away from you ever. Right. If anything, 947 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 2: it's it makes it stronger. And if there aren't trolls 948 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 2: around you, if there aren't people chirping around you, you 949 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 2: better look at yourself and be like, what am I 950 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 2: doing wrong? Yeah, that's a sign of victory. 951 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,799 Speaker 1: That is true. Your dead. When you have the Democrats 952 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,359 Speaker 1: or the radical left attacking you, you know you're over 953 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:13,759 Speaker 1: the target ship. 954 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,880 Speaker 2: When you have Republicans attacking you. 955 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's true. So what what is next 956 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 1: for you? I mean, gosh, maybe you're hosting a show 957 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: on news Max. Now you've got your your live stream 958 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: radio show on Rumble, which, by the way, I don't 959 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 1: know anything about Rumble, but you gave me a shout 960 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,400 Speaker 1: out today on Rumble and I just like started my 961 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 1: channel a little bit ago, but like channel blew up 962 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 1: because of you, so obviously thank you for that. But 963 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 1: what is next for you? 964 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,879 Speaker 2: What is next for me? I have a kid graduating 965 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,719 Speaker 2: from college. I have one kid who's going to be 966 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 2: going to college. I have two sons who are going 967 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 2: to need to learn how to drive, and I'm going 968 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,160 Speaker 2: to do that, and I'm going to cyber dream about 969 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 2: a home that is probably six bedrooms on the Gulf 970 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 2: coast of Florida. Probably it's got canal access and a 971 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 2: dock so we can fish. And I'm going to have grandchildren. 972 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 2: You see how you see what I said nothing had 973 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,279 Speaker 2: to do with my job, Yeah. 974 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,279 Speaker 1: I did, I get so Wait what I heard was 975 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:22,880 Speaker 1: that you're moving out of Pennsylvania. 976 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 2: Oh, I will absolutely once my kids are done with 977 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 2: high school. Yeah, we're going to let them go through 978 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 2: high school, so probably three more years and then let 979 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,759 Speaker 2: them come back. Is I think coming back from your 980 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 2: first semester in college and seeing all your friends at 981 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving and Christmas is a triumph. And then we're out. 982 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:42,400 Speaker 2: I'm done. I don't want to live this place. Unfortunately 983 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 2: has changed so irreparably, and I don't have the ability 984 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,440 Speaker 2: to change it. So I'll do what I want to 985 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,280 Speaker 2: do somewhere where the sun shines, where the beer is cold, 986 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,919 Speaker 2: and where the fish are biting, and I will begin 987 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 2: my next chapter. And the good thing about what we do, 988 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 2: what I do, at least, and what you're about to do, 989 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 2: is that you don't have to do it from a 990 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 2: location that's set. You can go from anywhere. So I'm 991 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:09,720 Speaker 2: going to be free. 992 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 1: And when Pennsylvania them to lose you, though you know 993 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:15,319 Speaker 1: that sucks. 994 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 2: Please please, what's true? No? No, no, I just I 995 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 2: don't think that there are enough fighters here to move 996 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,719 Speaker 2: the needle. There are some very passionate people who are wonderful, 997 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 2: but I just don't see the politics you're changing. And 998 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 2: that's disheartening, Yeah, very disheartening. 999 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 1: The left in this state has sort of the word 1000 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 1: rigged is so loaded, but they've definitely rigged the game here. 1001 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,319 Speaker 1: You know, even even things like you know, the no 1002 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 1: Excuse mail and ballot law that Act seventy seven in 1003 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:56,040 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania is is clearly clearly unconstitutional. You could have a 1004 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 1: fifth grade reading level and read the Pennsylvania State Constitution 1005 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:04,360 Speaker 1: and no, it's unconstitutional, yet the Pennsylvania Supreme Court upheld 1006 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,839 Speaker 1: it as constitutional. For some it's like, how does that? 1007 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,800 Speaker 1: You know? How it happens? Five two Democrats, super majority, 1008 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 1: That's how it happens. And so I see your point. 1009 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,640 Speaker 1: The only the only way that Yeah, I see your point. 1010 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania's is on the ropes right now, that's for sure. 1011 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 2: Well, And I think at some point too, it's like, 1012 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,720 Speaker 2: aren't you ready for a new adventure? At some point, 1013 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 2: like when your kids are grown up and moving along, 1014 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,440 Speaker 2: I mean, it's time for a new chapter, one that 1015 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 2: you decide that you define. You know, it's been a 1016 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,799 Speaker 2: good ride here, but it's it's like, it doesn't make 1017 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,520 Speaker 2: me who I am. I'm gonna I'm looking forward to 1018 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,719 Speaker 2: that and whatever happens with our show, you know, I 1019 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,040 Speaker 2: hope that we will be syndicated, and I think that'll 1020 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,319 Speaker 2: happen soon. I think it's baby steps. I think there's 1021 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:56,160 Speaker 2: a very very white male domination of conservative radio. And 1022 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,719 Speaker 2: I love white men. I live with six of them. 1023 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 2: But I think it's time for a new voice and 1024 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 2: a time for a woman, a time for a mom, 1025 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 2: a time for common sense, and and I think that 1026 00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,480 Speaker 2: I could be that person. I really do. 1027 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,279 Speaker 1: I think that you are that person. I think you are. 1028 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 2: I mean you have Limball was fired seven times. By 1029 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 2: the way, I'm not even halfway there. 1030 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 1: See this seat. This is why I started off the 1031 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 1: interview with you being fired. See I knew, I knew 1032 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,000 Speaker 1: that that we were building to something here. You know, 1033 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna You're gonna be the next generations Rush Limbaugh, 1034 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 1: you know. But hopefully hopefully you don't get fired seven 1035 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 1: times in order to get there. But that is a 1036 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,919 Speaker 1: pretty damn cool. It's a pretty damn cool goal, that's 1037 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 1: for sure. 1038 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:45,720 Speaker 2: I love it. It's great. 1039 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 1: Well, you're amazing. Thank you for the time, Wendy. I 1040 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 1: mean honestly, like I love catching up with you. I 1041 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 1: liked being the one asking the questions and getting a 1042 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 1: chance to listen to you talk. But thank you very 1043 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,360 Speaker 1: much for coming on battle ground. I greatly, greatly appreciate it. 1044 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 2: I'm so excited to watch what happens for you. You're gonna, 1045 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,280 Speaker 2: honest to God, just you know you're going to have 1046 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 2: those times you're like, what the hell am I doing? 1047 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 2: And you're gonna and you have to try, and you 1048 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 2: have to be willing for it to fail and your 1049 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,480 Speaker 2: internet to be shitty, and for equipment not to work out, 1050 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 2: and you're going to make some things, the purchases that 1051 00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 2: you didn't need to make, and you're going to be like, 1052 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, what am I doing? And then all 1053 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 2: of a sudden it's going to click and you're going 1054 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 2: to be like, wait a minute, that worked, Let's try 1055 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 2: this now, and it's going to be fantastic. And I'm 1056 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 2: going to be right there behind you pushing you along 1057 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 2: the way. 1058 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 1: Well, you've been so much if you just helped so much, 1059 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,720 Speaker 1: you know, and I mean it when I say how 1060 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 1: I'm so so grateful and thank you. Just thank you. 1061 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 1: That's all that's all there is to say. 1062 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,280 Speaker 2: Really, it goes both ways. 1063 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 1: Okay, well we'll see you soon, Wendy. 1064 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,560 Speaker 2: Take care of love, good luck, okay, okay. 1065 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 1: Thanks by all right, everybody. That is a wrap. Thank 1066 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 1: you so much for tune in to the Battleground Podcast. 1067 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 1: It has been an amazing journey over these last two months. 1068 00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:10,320 Speaker 1: We've grown like gangbusters, and really, I'm so grateful for 1069 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,400 Speaker 1: you all. If you like what you heard in that 1070 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 1: episode with Wendy Bell, please subscribe to the podcast wherever 1071 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts, or to my YouTube channel so 1072 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 1: you can watch it, or now we're on Rumble, you 1073 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 1: can subscribe there as well. Thank you for being a 1074 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,360 Speaker 1: part of this. Keep an eye out for updates in 1075 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 1: our newsletter, go to official Sean Parnell dot com, check 1076 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:38,479 Speaker 1: out the brand new Battleground apparel, and as always, thank 1077 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 1: you very much for the time. God bless you all, 1078 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 1: and God bless this amazing country that we live in. 1079 00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:47,919 Speaker 1: Take care