WEBVTT - This is Dramatic: Spilling Sex Stories 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:04.840 This is the most dramatic podcast ever and I heart 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:10.160 radio podcast. Welcome to the most dramatic podcast ever. I'm 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:14.800 Chris Harrison along with Lauren Ziema. Happy Masters Week. Hello friends, 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:17.120 I should say in honor of Jim Nance and the Masters, 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:19.799 it is a big week, ladies. If you do not 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:22.120 see you just said like ten words in a row 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:24.680 that I didn't understand. If he did not see is 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:26.960 this is about golf. This is about the Master's golf tournament. 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:29.920 You're a significant other for the next four days. Just 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:32.280 know he's sitting in front of a TV or he's 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:36.839 like in the toilet, sitting there secretly watching, trying to 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:39.960 find a moment. Totally. Look, I support you on it. Luckily, 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:42.159 by the way, your kids are grown, they're in college. 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:44.920 We're not like worried about parenting small children or something, 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:47.559 because I think you could sit in front of that 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:51.800 television for four days straight. Yea. What always fascinates me 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:53.760 when you and I talk about golf and look like 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:55.840 we said, we both love our we have our things, 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:58.000 we have our passions, Like you're not going to home 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:00.800 goods with me, but golf if it is a time 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:04.280 suck man, I mean you can you go play it's 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:06.880 four or five hours. You watch, it's four or five hours. 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:09.240 In this case, you watch a tournament. It's all weekend. 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:15.000 I don't have an equivalent activity there mt Well, I mean, 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:19.840 but I don't. Yeah, I got nothing. We got and 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:22.960 there's nothing where I'm like, see you in five hours, 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:26.959 there's five days, see you in five days. But Chris, 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:28.720 I mean, look, he's a fan. He is a very 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.679 cute Augusta national. Look I know where it's played now 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:34.800 five years into our relationship. He has a blanket from there. 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:37.160 He has a mug and I set them out for 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:39.520 him on the couch for him to watch and comfort 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.039 it's raining outside. Cozy up with the men you love. 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:45.039 Life couldn't be better, except I have one bone to 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:48.320 pick with the world. Wow, doing this on Easter weekend? 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.360 Can we not do this on Easter weekend? Is it 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:52.760 an Muster weekend every year? No, it's it's just the 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:55.640 way the calendar fell. I digress. What I really wanted 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:58.080 to say about the most dramatic podcast ever is that 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.240 we're doing things a little different. We're going to kind 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:02.000 of split things up a little bit. So we're gonna 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:05.840 have an interview show, but today is just going to 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:09.880 be about headlines. And then later on there is a 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:12.800 very special interview with Megan King Real Housewives Meghan King 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:17.120 phenomenal questions to ask her that'll be dropping very soon 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:20.720 as well, and then the Master's Golf Edition. No, I 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.640 won't do that to you. I promise I won't do 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.040 that to you. Maybe someday I bring on one of 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:29.240 my friends who are golfers, because I do find it 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:32.080 interesting the life that they have to live on the road. 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:36.080 It's kind of like a rock star life with their wives, 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:37.840 their kids and how they make it all work. But 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:40.919 that'll be for another day. I want to dive into 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:44.639 headlines that hit home to us, and one that struck 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:49.360 me very quickly. It was Tristan Thompson and the Chloe 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:53.280 Kardashian moving in next door to each other. Now, you 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.760 and I have nothing in common with Tristan Thompson or 0:02:55.800 --> 0:03:02.040 Chloe Kardashian. Well, I would disagree with Chloe. Chloe Tristan, 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:03.960 I guess who went off and had affairs and broke 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:06.280 up and whatever. But they live next to each other 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:08.919 because they share children, and they said, you know, essentially, 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:13.160 while Chloe has no romantic anything towards Tristan anymore. Tristan 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.600 hasn't given up hope, Good luck, buddy, she said. It 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.240 is nice just because they're close and when you're sharing children, 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:23.120 you're sharing things. That's a lot easier. It's something that 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.080 you and I went through. Well, that's the thing. There's 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:27.320 one major thing we have in common with them, which 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:32.680 is my ex moved in very close to us at 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:34.240 the end of our street, at the end of our street. 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.360 Put to put it in golf terms, let's keep this 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:40.880 master's theme going. It's about a seven iron away out 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:42.760 of our back. You got to stop putting in golf 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.560 one hundred and sixty yards because nobody knows. I don't 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:47.400 know what one hundred and sixty yards is. You lost 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:49.840 me there too. Give it to me in a visual aid. 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:54.680 Do you know how long a football field? Absolutely no clue. 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.600 How long is okay, from the beginning of a Starbucks 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.680 drive through to the end and it'd be about ten 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:06.880 of those. That is super helpful, okay. The length of 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.920 home goods on one side, what do you call where 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:16.440 Harry Potter, where they eight did the dining hall of 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:20.240 the Gray Hall, About the length of the Gray Hall. Great, honey, 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:24.040 great Hall, not the Gray Hall. Great great. Okay, oh god, 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:27.760 you know what actually, oh my gosh, I just came 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.360 up with it for the first time. This is an 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:34.799 activity that takes me five hours. I will listen to 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:39.159 Harry Potter on tape, a book on tape specifically for me, 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:43.080 Harry Potter. There's my activity. So while you're watching The Masters, 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.400 I'm gonna go and just listen Harry Potter on tape 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:47.640 for a while. I'll go on to watch she do whatever, 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.880 which I do on repeat anyway, Okay, so try on. 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:54.120 So Tristan and Chloe, they live next to pretty much 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.520 next to my thing is, you know, when my ex 0:04:56.600 --> 0:05:00.920 moved in next door to us, close to us. I'll 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:05.440 admit my first thought was, dear God, no, like I 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:08.320 have this little slice of earth over here, just can 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:11.919 I please have a little space. So my first thought 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:16.320 was please don't. But then I will say there were 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:20.359 many advantages to the kids forgetting their shin guards on 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:22.960 the way to soccer, or someone forgot a book or 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:25.520 what have you, because the kids were fairly young when 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.440 she moved next to you, before you and I started writing. 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.680 So this happened early years ago, and so you know, 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:35.760 kind of having access to each other's homes. We would 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:37.960 do that often where she wasn't home or I wasn't 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.000 home and someone needed something and they could just go 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:42.880 in and get it. That did make life a little easier. 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:46.040 I will say, I think it's great. I mean, I 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:48.720 really actually. I know people got a lot of hate 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.800 for the Kardashians on several things, but every time I've 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.920 interviewed them, they've been lovely. I think they're incredible businesswomen, 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:58.760 and I have always admired how much even though they 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:02.080 have all this family drawn, they have always focused on 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:05.760 keeping family together. They all live near each other, they 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.680 prioritize each other. I've always been a little jealous of Wow, 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.440 you found a way to film a show together as 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:12.360 a family and be around each other all the time. 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.640 That's amazing. Like, what do we all want if not 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:18.960 community with the people we love. And even though they're 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:22.800 not with the fathers of their children, they've always kept 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:26.159 them in their lives. And I'm a big proponent of that. 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:30.000 Even not having kids, I still talk to my former 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.160 sister in law and my former mother in law every 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:35.680 single week, if not close to every day. I think 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:37.800 build bridges, don't burn them if you can. And if 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:40.159 there's love there, hold on to that love. Why let 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:43.480 go of love if you can make it last. And 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:47.880 the things that weren't advantageous, Ah, yes, okay, and I don't. 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:49.560 I mean, I don't have kids and I wasn't in 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.000 a twenty year marriage, so that's got to have other 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:54.640 levels of complexity and pain that I don't understand. The 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:59.160 things that were to advantageous when I started dating again. Oh, 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:03.400 the possibility that my ex and or my kids could 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.080 walk in at any time. Oh, you've never told me 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:09.000 about this. I didn't even think about that. So you 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:12.240 were living, So you guys split up, right, you move? 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:14.520 She stayed in your old house with the kids. At first, 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:16.000 she stayed in the old house with the kids, and 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.800 you moved into this new house, which is eventually where 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.120 when we started dating, you were still there. So when 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:22.880 you moved into the new house a few years later, 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:24.880 she moved in at the end of the street. At first, 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.920 I was about five miles apart from my original house. 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:32.600 And then she got re engaged and eventually remarried. They 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:35.120 had kids, other kids, so they needed a bigger house, 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:38.360 so they had to find a house and somehow my 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.720 neighborhood was the only house they could find, so they 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:45.880 moved in down the streets. So she was married. I 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:48.240 was still single and dating. I kind of just started 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:52.440 dating really, and there were times when a you just 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.880 worry if someone else's car is in front of your house. 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:57.440 The kids could walk in at any time, she could 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:00.520 walk in, and we kind of because at the beginning 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.080 we just had this kind of unannounced it doesn't matter, 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.280 and then it kind of matters. So how do you 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.720 have that discussion? It's hard to dial that back? What 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:10.840 was the talk I mainly had to talk with the 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.560 kids of like, hey, love to see you at any time. 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:15.920 House is always open, of course, could you just give 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:18.600 me a heads up, shoot me a text. Yeah, there's things, 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:21.280 and they have cell phones yet they did at this 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:23.280 point they finally, you know, they had cell phones, and 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:25.360 that was kind of one of the I guess the 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:28.960 impetus for getting Taylor. Joshuary had one, but my youngest 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.320 a cell phone, probably a couple of years earlier than 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.600 I wanted, just because when we were splitting up, it 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:35.760 was a way to communicate without having to go through 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:38.640 your ax. And so yes, they both had cell phones. 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:42.800 But that's that was a weird stage of life. Did 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.520 the kids ever walk in and you had somebody there 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:49.400 or anything they did? It was, you know, nothing, nothing 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:52.040 horrid that they'll have to deal with in therapy. But 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.880 like you know, I tried to keep a low profile, 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:56.839 especially where I was living. I tried to keep a 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:58.920 very low profile. So it was very simple things of 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.840 like just cooking or having dinner at my house or whatever. 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.000 And it's just a weird thing for your kids to 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.600 walk into because you don't if I already hadn't thought 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:09.439 enough of this person yet to introduce them to my kids. 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.200 You definitely don't want that. You don't want it sprung 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:14.000 upon them when you want to be in control of 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:17.160 how that introduction happenally. But but I understand what Tristan 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:20.120 and Chloe are saying is overall, and I think you 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.160 and I felt this even when we moved in together. 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:24.520 It was helpful. It was nice to be able to 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.560 just kind of go back and totally And for anyone 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:29.679 who's worried about their ex living close by, I would 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.240 say I actually was surprised when I first moved in 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.600 with you how little we did run in to your ex, 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.240 like I mean, I think maybe in a couple years 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:39.840 of living with you, I saw her on a walk 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.640 in the neighborhood once or twice. It's funny, like we 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.520 all there's that running conspiracy theory joke you never see 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:47.679 your neighbors bringing in their groceries, Like, are we all 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.320 living in a simulation? We didn't really see her that much, 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.000 and it was super easy with the kids, And I think, 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:55.560 especially if you're coming from a family where you're in 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.240 two households, you know, as close as you can be 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:01.600 is going to make it better for the kids, you know. 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:04.880 It made me think about you and how different breakups 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:09.400 are and should be. Normally say, no kids are involved, 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:13.120 what have you? You get divorced, you break up whatever 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.360 it is, you break up your engagement. You could move 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:17.880 to the far ends of the earth and never see 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.319 each other, never hear from each other again. That's how 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:25.080 it break up probably should be. It's a good emotional 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.960 break Like you don't talk to your X now, don't 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.720 see your X now. I just got a text from 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:34.040 my ex as I was starting this podcast about flying 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:38.120 our daughter home after school year, so like it's a 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:41.440 contact you will always have. It's very businesslike at this point. 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:44.200 We're very friendly and it's all fine. But that's just 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.240 something you don't have to deal with. It's a very 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:50.000 different dynamic. I mean, like I said, I still talk 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:53.280 to my ex as family all the time. And what 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:56.079 was interesting for me about that was I think people 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.640 look a lot at divorce, you know, with kids, and 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:00.559 it's like, well, there's always going to be family there, 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:03.320 you know, with kids, it's always forever. But actually, you know, 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:06.600 we didn't have kids. But I loved his parents. I mean, 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:09.040 I loved his siblings. I was the maid of honor 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:14.199 at his sister's parents. You've we we all hang out, yes, 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:17.240 m And I was maid of honor to his sister's wedding. 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:20.800 You've met his sister and her husband there. I didn't 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.920 want to even though we didn't have kids. I love 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.080 them like they were my family because I believe when 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.839 you marry someone, you're marrying their family and they become 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:32.240 your family. And so I maybe selfishly I didn't want 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:34.360 to give that up. But no, I haven't seen him 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:36.320 in a long time, and if I saw him, it 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.240 would be fine. You know. I want the best for him. 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.520 Although I do think today, it's harder than ever to 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:45.720 make that split right because of social media, of cell phones, 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:47.640 of how easy it is to text and x and 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:51.280 give into that. Um. So blessings to anybody who's going 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.120 through a breakup right now, because I think it's so hard. 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:54.760 You used to be able to just set it and 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.200 forget it and never see them, never think about them. 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.040 I did want to ask you because part of this 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:02.920 Tristan and Chloe story is the alleged reporting that Tristan's 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:06.719 holding out hope that they get back together. Now, what 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:09.560 was very different about your ex moving in at the 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:11.680 end of your street was as you said, she was 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.360 I believe, already engaged at the time about to get remarried. 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:18.400 How different would it have been if she said, like, look, 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:20.720 I've got I want to get a bigger house, and 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:22.680 I want to move into your neighborhod It's a great neighorhood. 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:24.880 We can be close with the kids. But you were 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:27.840 both still single. Would that have been different anyway? For sure? 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:29.640 I think if either one of us had still been 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:34.000 thirsty for that, it would have changed the dynamic exponentially. 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:37.800 The fact that she was happy she was married that helped. 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:42.360 So do you think Chloe should be drawing should she 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:44.360 have that same thing that you had where Hay come 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:45.599 and goes you please in the house or do you 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.080 have to draw different boundaries. I think if you, especially 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.280 if you know that the other person is wanting that 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.760 and holding out hope, you just have to be abundantly 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:56.280 clear that that door is closed. We can share child things, 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.760 sports and school events and parent teacher meetings. Again, there's 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:01.960 so many things in life that will draw you together. 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.079 You go to your kids elementary school, there's two chairs 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.400 sitting there for the parent teacher conference. It's still you 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:10.400 guys typically if you want that. And so we just 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:12.720 had this agreement that when it came to those things, 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:17.040 you were always welcome there each other, and eventually her 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.520 husband was as well, and then eventually you were. And 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:22.840 so you just you have to set those boundaries. It is. 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.080 It was a wondutiful thing to say with the kids, 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:26.880 you're when it comes to stuff with the kids, you're 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.920 always welcome, birthdays, holidays, that kind of stuff. And again, 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.360 it took work, swallowing pride and all those things. I 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:37.000 know it's not that for everybody when you go through 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:38.840 a divorce. I know you did an amazing I know 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:41.280 it can be toxic and horrible, and God bless those 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:42.959 people that have to go through. We're actually going to 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.120 get to well, I'm going to end this conversation actually 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:49.080 with a little drop of wisdom from my mother, who 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:52.120 was a divorce attorney until she couldn't take it anymore 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.880 because it was too dark of a business. She always 0:13:55.880 --> 0:14:01.640 told me, honestly, Mary, pretty much, any one be very 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:17.160 careful who you have children with. Amen to that. The 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:20.880 next headline that hit home to us Christina Aguilera. So 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:24.160 she went on a podcast, the podcast Call Her Daddy, 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.800 Call Her Daddy Podcast, which is very sexual in nature 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:28.600 and sexual forward. And if you go on there, it's 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.480 kind of going on Howard Stern. You know you're gonna 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:31.840 have to give up the goods a little bit and 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:35.760 talk about things. So she did. She played ball. Oh 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.320 that was that was a good pun, dirty dad joke 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.880 of the week. She talked about She talked about oral 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:45.240 sex and have you ever said oral sex out loud 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:50.640 on any show or podcast? Only during the Bill Clinton deposition, No, 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.720 I've never said oral sex. There's a few things I'm 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:55.640 about to say that I've never said, never said on 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:59.160 any broadcast that you've done. Okay. Christina Aguilera, who's forty 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:02.760 two years old now, talked about giving oral sex. She said, 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:05.520 swallowing is really a good thing. It's got a lot 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:09.600 of protein. Okay, doctor Aguilera. She goes on to give tips. 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.960 She noted that it's really important to be with a 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:17.320 partner where you can really explore. I agree. She explains 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:21.240 sexuality as a very specific thing, so like one guy 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:25.800 might like what one guy might like, another one doesn't. 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:29.560 And there are some guys that don't like their balls 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.760 being touched. Okay, Christina, there are some guys. This one 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.920 really got me. There are some guys that like brutal 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:39.960 things happening to them. Oh, brutal when you're talking about 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:44.000 that area and that and that act, I don't think 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:47.200 the word brutal should ever come into how you're treating 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:50.480 that area. Maybe some people are into it. What the 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:53.600 hell do you love while that's happening. That's brutal. Don't 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:59.520 be judgmental. Maybe some people have kings. I mean, I look, 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.360 I haven't open I have an open muff. Fred. I 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.600 think it's you're in picturing pain in that area, and 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:06.760 I have an open mind. I like to be about 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.160 free love. Hey, whatever floats your boat, but when it 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:12.480 comes to brutal, like, I really need some specifics of 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:16.360 what the hell is she doing to this man? Well, 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:18.880 maybe she met brutal not in that area, but other 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:21.120 parts of the body. People are into s and M stuff. 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:24.560 But I digress the real reason this kind of hit me. 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.600 And she we're gonna say, let's tell the people why 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.000 this hit home. Yeah, and she went on to that 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:32.280 that actually literally hit home. But she said about her 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:36.400 virginity that she probably lost her virginity later than most 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.120 people would expect. I was probably the last person to 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.760 lose my virginity. When we both read this article, we 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.800 took very different things. I took it is there a 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:50.600 thing called sharing too much? In these situations? I get 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:52.600 you go on these podcasts now and it's kind of 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:55.600 in vogue to really overshare, and a great interviewer like 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:57.760 a Howard Stern or something like that, we'll get that 0:16:57.880 --> 0:16:59.720 from you. They will get you to go places maybe 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.160 you didn't intend to go because you feel so comfortable. 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:04.879 But I just don't know if I need to know 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:08.200 everything all the time. Well, first of all, I don't 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:13.320 think this probably is everything. I mean, well, look, obviously 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:14.879 she's sharing a piece of her life. I do think 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.560 you go on call her daddy in knowing that you're 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:19.239 going to get into some of that stuff, just like 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.720 people knew, as you said, they'd have a different vibe 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:27.000 on Howard Stern. I think so. And I haven't listened 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:29.159 to the episode, but when I started reading this, it 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.399 took me back. I'm actually doing a Sex in the 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:34.840 City rewatch right now. I'm rewatching the show and I 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:37.879 hadn't watched it in full since around the time when 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.359 it was first on. I think I watched it like 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:44.000 in my late high school early college years, and as 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:47.520 I'm rewatching it, I'm thinking, man, I was young to 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:50.800 be watching this show, Like I kind of forgot how 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:54.560 much they got into on that show. And I do think. 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:56.840 I mean, it's an incredible show. The writing and it 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.760 was revolutionary and the way that it normalized talking about 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.360 I watched several episodes with you and I've been captivated. Oh, 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:06.880 it's such a good show. It's about relationships at it's core, 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.160 which is really what makes it stand the test of time. 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:12.600 Female relationship. Yeah, friendships, and so I love everything about 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:15.640 Sex in the city. But when I look back, I 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:18.520 do think, like I was watching that show before i'd 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:21.760 as the phrase goes lost my own virginity when I 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:24.080 was so sexually curious, I was getting a lot of 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:27.400 information from it, probably, and I think maybe the problem 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:31.280 was that I was getting the information of how to 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:35.560 have sex as like a confident, independent, thirty two year 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.640 old woman, instead of how to have sex as a 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:42.720 teenager or a young college student who's just beginning. And 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:48.520 so I was applying the wrong mindset as I, you know, 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:51.600 embarked on my own journey, and I was thinking that 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:53.840 about you know, I think that happens to a lot 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:57.159 of kids. I think whether it's podcasts or TV shows, 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:59.560 you know, kids at that age are so looking for 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:02.800 their so curious, And it just kind of drove home 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:04.800 to me how important it is for parents to be 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:08.320 able to talk to their kids about sexuality, because I 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:11.879 was definitely getting a lot of information from the wrong 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:15.919 places and not from experts or not from this place 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:19.960 of I don't know, groundedness. And one phrase that really 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.000 stuck out to me, and this is not anything against 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:27.159 Christina Aguilera, I just hate the phrase losing your virginity 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:30.360 I've always hated that phrase. Why what strikes a chord 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:36.159 with you? Because what it implies is that, like, to me, 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:38.640 the word lose is like you've lost it, like you've 0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:41.280 made a mistake. You know, you've you've Like what else 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:43.560 do we apply the word lose to that's positive in 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:46.960 any way? Losing something is always bad that you know, 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:49.119 it's funny. I've never thought of it from that angle, 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:52.720 and I immediately my mind went to the church, which 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:55.439 is where this phrase probably came from. The Virgin Mary. 0:19:55.840 --> 0:20:00.439 Virginity in general was a I'm guessing probably if I 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:04.520 I'm going to guess a Catholic phrase for something of 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:08.679 that sort, and so they probably wanted that meaning a 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:11.720 sign to it. There was guilt if you weren't married. 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:14.320 There was guilt if you weren't in this certain relationship 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:16.520 under the guise of God and the Church. I'm sure 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:19.159 that's where that came from. I think that having sex 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:21.000 is normal. It's something we're all going to do, right, 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:26.000 and so what we need to teach is have sex 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:29.000 for the first time in a way where like you 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:32.679 feel comfortable, you feel respected, you feel appreciated, you have 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:35.439 confidence in how that this person is going to value you, 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:41.240