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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal.

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Speaker 2: Home that for me.

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Speaker 3: I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 3: I want to be happy.

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Speaker 2: You want to be happy for a day? Edith state,

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Speaker 2: is that? Whoo whoom and then and tie?

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Speaker 1: All right, Dan, time for it, Time and talk to

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Speaker 1: some Florida Gators of today's episode. It's been a minute

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Speaker 1: since we dedicated an episode to the Gators. I think

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Speaker 1: today is the day. We are very excited to have

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Speaker 1: our good friend on from Gators Breakdown. Gator Dave David

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Speaker 1: Water is going to be stopping by here momentarily to

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Speaker 1: give us the lowdown on all things going on in Gainesville.

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good, very excited. He's not going to join us,

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Speaker 3: He's going to join you. I don't want people listening

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Speaker 3: to hear what Ty hilden Brandt has to ask a

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Speaker 3: Florida Gator expert. Thank god Dan's on here to balance

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Speaker 3: out this equation. I'm not on this interview. My schedule

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Speaker 3: has been sort of influx childcare wise. So Ty is

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Speaker 3: just an American hero for recording this one solo. And

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Speaker 3: I personally I don't listen. I don't like listening back

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Speaker 3: something I have in common with listeners. I'm very excited

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Speaker 3: to hear this interview with you and Gator Dave, who

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Speaker 3: you said was terrific.

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Speaker 1: He's terrific. Finally got you out of the way. I

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Speaker 1: can ask the questions that I want to ask. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of data and way of the Florida Gators. Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: interview was conducted like a day or two ago. We're

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Speaker 1: recording this a little bit later on in the week.

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Speaker 1: It's going to go live for the public on Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 1: And I've been a big fan of Dave's work for

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Speaker 1: a while now. He's just really thorough and you could

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Speaker 1: getting to the bottom of some of these stories. So

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Speaker 1: when we had him on last time about two years ago,

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Speaker 1: I think I immediately said to you afterwards, we gotta

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Speaker 1: have David back on again at some point soon. Didn't

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Speaker 1: do it for two years. Now it is twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 1: but it comes at I think a very pivotal time

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Speaker 1: for anybody who follows college football and is interested in

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Speaker 1: the Florida Gators. There is a lot at stake in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, and as we've been going through and

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Speaker 1: doing some of these team conversations, we'd be remiss to

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Speaker 1: not examine what's going on down there with Billy Napier

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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, and with some of the recent years of

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Speaker 3: Florida football. That Gator Dave is just as locked in

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Speaker 3: as ever, just as passionate, just as much as an

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Speaker 3: artisan about Florida Gators football coverage. Todd Grantham has done

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Speaker 3: some things to people tie and that Gator Dave is

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Speaker 3: still here, still locked in, made it through, made it through.

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Speaker 3: I have nothing but the highest level of respect for it.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a long conversation here with Dave momentarily.

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Speaker 1: very pleased to welcome back to the Solid Verbal Gator Dave.

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Speaker 1: It is David Waters from the Gators Breakdown podcast and

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Speaker 1: YouTube channel and website. He's all over, Welcome back to the show,

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Speaker 1: mister Waters. How are you, my good friend.

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Speaker 4: I'm good, I'm good. Thanks for having me back on.

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Speaker 4: I am a consistent listener of you guys, you know,

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Speaker 4: just listening to what I gotta zoom out from all

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Speaker 4: the Gator coverage. I'd certainly check into the Solid Verbal,

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Speaker 4: enjoy the banter between you two guys, and certainly looking

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Speaker 1: We appreciate that, you know, we appreciate that. I want

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Speaker 1: to know what's the vibe bin among Florida people this spring?

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Speaker 1: What's the vibe bin among the Harmonic Woods tailgaters this spring?

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Speaker 4: It was a little stubdue tailgate for the Spring Gay

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Speaker 4: the last time we all got together. But yeah, that's

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Speaker 4: Of course, I'm excited coming out of that that win

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Speaker 1: That's good. That's good news. DJ went six and one

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Speaker 2: Who knows six and oh in games he's starting, finished six.

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Speaker 1: And oh games started to finish, there we go, Florida

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Speaker 4: Took a while to get there, but yes, I mean

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Speaker 4: billion Neiapiers. No, there's no way as millionaper survives this.

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Speaker 4: He's getting fired. They're just saving up the money for

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Speaker 4: the perfect time and he's gone, and lo and behold

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Speaker 4: day they started playing better. You started seeing signs, and

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Speaker 2: The right way.

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Speaker 4: And then return home, have two big games and rally

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Speaker 2: Of the football. I mean, you saw.

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Speaker 4: The you saw the potential of the offense when Lagway

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Speaker 4: you started seeing signs there. But that win streak at

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Speaker 4: the end of the season doesn't happen if the defense

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Speaker 4: front led by katleb Bates and Tyreeks happen. That really

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Speaker 4: Both still garnered a whole bunch of yardage, but once

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Speaker 4: late and late in the season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I was looking back to the last

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Speaker 1: do these team specific talks, we tend to highlight things

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Speaker 1: it's the defense. Defense needs to get fixed. Defense let

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Speaker 1: For the defense, Florida wasn't super active in the transfer portal.

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Speaker 4: On the back end, I think so Florida's fighting injuries

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Speaker 4: at aggression and the criticism of ability aapor to play caller,

434
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Speaker 4: it's just be able to dictate what you want to do.

435
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Speaker 4: If you want to pass, be able to pass, if

436
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Speaker 4: you want to run, be able to run.

437
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Speaker 1: Well, you know better than anybody in the SEC that

438
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Speaker 1: it starts up front. If you can't build an offensive

439
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 1: line in the SEC, you're pretty much dead to rights.

440
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Speaker 1: And as you've mentioned here a couple times, this is

441
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Speaker 1: an offensive line that did show massive improvement. I think

442
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Speaker 1: the last time we had you on the conversation was

443
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Speaker 1: about past protection. Last year. There was a big jump,

444
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Speaker 1: big jump forward in all the protection stats that we

445
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Speaker 1: tend to look at. Sacks allowed, how much time a

446
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Speaker 1: quarterback had to throw things of that nature, if you

447
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Speaker 1: really want to get granular about it. They also played

448
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Speaker 1: better individually, not just as a unit. And there's a

449
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Speaker 1: lot back this season, as you've mentioned, So from your

450
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Speaker 1: vantage point, what represents the next step forward for this line?

451
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Speaker 1: More specifically, how will we know? How will I know,

452
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Speaker 1: as not necessarily a Florida Gator diehard, how will I

453
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Speaker 1: know if the line gets to that level? What will

454
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Speaker 1: be the tell?

455
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Speaker 4: I think the start of the season, for one, you

456
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 4: go back and I hate heard it's almost a tael

457
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Speaker 4: of two seasons for Florida.

458
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Speaker 2: Last year.

459
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Speaker 4: You had the early season, you had the early season miscues,

460
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Speaker 4: and then the big wins late. But it's getting off

461
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 4: to a better start. I mean not only I talked

462
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 4: about how bad the defense was earlier, but a big

463
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Speaker 4: part of why the offense struggled in the early season

464
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 4: against Miami and Texas A and m was too because

465
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 4: they couldn't block anybody. Now they rotated a whole bunch

466
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Speaker 4: of people. And Billy Naper has kind of going back

467
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 4: and say, look, you know one reason we've done that

468
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 4: is because think about college football now and think about

469
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Speaker 4: how many miles you have to fee TheInk a matter

470
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Speaker 4: how many players you have to make happy to get

471
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Speaker 4: playing time now, and Florida rotated and tried to get

472
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Speaker 4: other guys them playing time, and I think that did

473
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Speaker 4: them in. Earlier in the season, they finally settled on five,

474
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 4: they finally wanted to move forward, would play in a

475
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 4: set offensive line, and I think that paid dividends throughout

476
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Speaker 4: the season as those five were playing more and more

477
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 4: football together. But I think getting off to a better

478
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Speaker 4: start now Florida finally gets the benefit. And think about it,

479
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 4: this is the first time on a billion apier. They're

480
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 4: not opening up with Utah. They're not opening up at Utah,

481
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 4: they're not opening up with Miami. Funny gainst Long Island,

482
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Speaker 4: you'll take finally your break for billion Aprier and then

483
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Speaker 4: USLF week two, and then you get back to back

484
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 4: road trips at LSU and then at Miami. Right, So

485
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 4: it's gonna take a few weeks to probably see have

486
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Speaker 4: they made that jump. But a lot of people are

487
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Speaker 4: gonna go back and look at how are they gonna

488
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Speaker 4: start because last year was a brutal start for this

489
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 4: offensive line. We're gonna have to get to baton rouge.

490
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Speaker 4: Maybe that's not the best barometer when you have ninety

491
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Speaker 4: five thousand people in death valleys screaming the you know

492
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Speaker 4: it's already sept for a night game. We already know

493
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Speaker 4: the situation it's going to be for a Florida offensive

494
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 4: line trying to figure out, you know, communication and look,

495
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Speaker 4: that's the biggest road game. Djlagwise will have started. He

496
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 4: played at Tennessee last year, but he didn't start that game.

497
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 4: Played at FSU last year, but she wasn't any good.

498
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 4: That's going to be a hostile environment there for DJ

499
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 4: Lagway and an offensive line that they haven't played a

500
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 4: ton together, about half a season together last year. So

501
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Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of questions. But I think

502
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Speaker 4: what we're going to look for probably a Marcus consistency.

503
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 4: Can they start better and keep it up. They weren't

504
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Speaker 4: able to do that last year, even if it's Florida State.

505
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 4: They probably gave up a little more pressure than I

506
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 4: would have liked against you for an offensive line that

507
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Speaker 4: was playing pretty well going into that game. FSU had

508
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Speaker 4: a pretty good defensive line at the time, But think

509
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Speaker 4: J Lagway I think helped that offensive line looked a

510
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 4: little better by escaping sacks, by escaping pressure and that

511
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Speaker 4: was DJ Lagway, not one hundred percent being able to

512
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Speaker 4: do those things. So I do think there is a

513
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Speaker 4: next step of four Marcus consistency. Still in the passwalking category,

514
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Speaker 4: I do think running the ball billion Apier, rob Sel, Johnson, DaCosta,

515
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Speaker 4: the offensive line coaches, there's a pretty good baseline for

516
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Speaker 4: what they're able.

517
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Speaker 2: To do in the run game.

518
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Speaker 4: But it's a more consistent passion or a pass blocking

519
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Speaker 4: pass blocking for DJ Laguay that I'll.

520
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Speaker 2: Be looking for.

521
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and as you mentioned, I want to unpack the

522
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Speaker 1: receiver thing because it jumped off the page to me

523
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Speaker 1: that this is one of the more interesting, let's say,

524
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Speaker 1: youthful receiver rooms in the country. I don't need to

525
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Speaker 1: go back through and recite the names, but I do

526
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Speaker 1: want to harken back to something I think you tweeted

527
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: out back in December about Dallas Wilson and Vernell Brown

528
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: the third that they are two of the seven best

529
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Speaker 1: receivers since the year two thousand to step foot on

530
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Speaker 1: campus in Gainesville. So in terms of incoming star power,

531
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Speaker 1: it's there with the freshman you mentioned, Trey Wilson coming back,

532
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Speaker 1: j Michael Sturtevant transfers in to give them more of

533
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Speaker 1: a veteran presence. In addition to that, more to the

534
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Speaker 1: point of Gator Nation maybe wanting to open up the

535
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Speaker 1: offense a little bit more. We know that, but that

536
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Speaker 1: both Ross Russ Callaway excuse me, and Steve Spurrier Junior

537
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: do have some influence over this offense. Calaway is a

538
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Speaker 1: former Air Raid quarterback. Spurge, You're has some experience as

539
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: well with Mike Leach, with Kevin Wilson in that style

540
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Speaker 1: of offense. What are the odds that Florida does open

541
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Speaker 1: up the offense to a greater degree than we're used

542
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Speaker 1: to seeing under Billion Apier.

543
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Speaker 4: I think it has to be a little bit because

544
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Speaker 4: of once you have a quarterback and we saw the

545
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Speaker 4: deep downfield success like we was able to have, and

546
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Speaker 4: you have a group you've recruited a group of receivers

547
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Speaker 4: that should give you the ability to do that. A

548
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Speaker 4: Jamichael Sturtivan and I mean I had Billion Apriil on

549
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Speaker 4: the podcast in late January early February, and when we're

550
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 4: talking about Jamichailsturtvan, I mean he really points out that, hey,

551
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 4: we went and got this guy to be a deep threat.

552
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 4: He is going to be our downfield threat, and Florida

553
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 4: lost Elijah Badger, who was near tops in the SEC

554
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Speaker 4: in yards per catch. Chim Rey Dka I believe was

555
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 4: top ten, top fifteen as well, But a lot of

556
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 4: that had to come with the quarterback change from Graham

557
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 4: murch d Jaway that that wasn't part of the offense

558
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 4: until DJ Lagway took over. You didn't know if the

559
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 4: receivers had that until DJ Lagway was the guy in there.

560
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 4: So they identified a guy who could do the same

561
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 4: things that Elijah Badger can do down the field. And

562
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Speaker 4: like I said, that's they want to be able to

563
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 4: stretch the field. And I think Aid Minsel is he's

564
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 4: kind of been that guy. He's in his third year

565
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 4: and he's been that guy since he's a true freshman.

566
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Speaker 4: This is gonna be the guy that breaks out. This

567
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 4: is gonna be the guy that breaks out. This is

568
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 4: gonna be the guy that breaks out. Eventually, it's got

569
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 4: to happen. Doesn't happen this year. You're looking at a

570
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 4: guy who we're still wondering about and so but you

571
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 4: paired Trey Wilson. I think so integral to this offense.

572
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Speaker 4: I mean, really with a lot of the fan base,

573
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 4: and I think pundits want to see from Trey Wilsons.

574
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Speaker 4: Can he be a true receiver. We've seen the gadget plays,

575
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 4: We've seen the reverses and the sweeps, we've seen the screens.

576
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 4: Can he be a true receiver?

577
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Speaker 1: You know?

578
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Speaker 4: Can he take a can you run the slant route

579
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 4: third and six and get the first down? But can

580
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 4: he be a downfield weapon himself? I mean, so, I

581
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 4: think for Trey Wilson, it's taking that next step and

582
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 4: being a leader but also being a true wide receiver

583
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 4: in that regard. But then talked about the freshman there,

584
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Speaker 4: and that's not how I forget about Nashwan Montgomery as well

585
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 4: for the adds to that group, and Florida added really

586
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 4: high level receivers and we got to see it in

587
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 4: the spring game. I mean, Dallas Wilson ten catches a

588
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 4: couple of scores. Harrison Bailey's throwing him the ball, so

589
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 4: you get an Inkley go of what he met Mike

590
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 4: can do with dj Lagway. But what you're hoping for

591
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 4: is there is a repeat of what we saw last year.

592
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Speaker 4: You go back to a year ago and you had

593
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Speaker 4: Jade Ball at running back as a true freshman in

594
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 4: the spring game doing some really really good things, but

595
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 4: you get in trouble sometimes with the spring game heroes.

596
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 4: Do they ever show it in the regular season, and

597
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 4: Jade Ball, as a true freshman, showed it. Florida is

598
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 4: hoping for the same thing with Dallas Wilson, And I

599
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 4: think what gives you a hope there is you heard

600
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Speaker 4: all along spring practice about how good those true freshman

601
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Speaker 4: receivers were, and then you get to the spring game

602
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 4: and see it firsthand. Well, Dallas Wilson was able to

603
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 4: do after catch, the physicality he was able to possess

604
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 4: that you can get in trouble spring A spring game

605
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 4: can get you in trouble for the spring game star.

606
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 4: But given the recruiting profile, given everything we heard for

607
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Speaker 4: the month leading up to the spring game, it gives

608
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 4: you a hope that Dallas Wilson and Rodelle Brown the

609
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 4: third can really be those guys that show up right

610
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 4: away as true freshman.

611
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Speaker 2: At the receivers part, I know.

612
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Speaker 1: That Napier historically has liked a lot of twelve personnel,

613
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: one running back, two tight ends, that type of thing.

614
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Speaker 1: There has to be a desire to get more receivers

615
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Speaker 1: on the field. Given all these options, I mean, especially

616
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Speaker 1: after the spring game with hype being at a fever

617
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Speaker 1: pitch for a guy like a Dallas, well like, they

618
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Speaker 1: have to find a way to do more with the

619
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Speaker 1: receiver room given the fact that they just have, I

620
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Speaker 1: think so many options that they're excited about.

621
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Speaker 4: Right, and people will say always never open it up.

622
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Speaker 4: Good back to Louisiana, go back to earlier. I'm like,

623
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Speaker 4: he's never recruited receivers like this either, or he's never

624
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 4: had receive it, never had a quarterback like this either.

625
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Speaker 1: So I get it. History, none of us stops. He's

626
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: never had this.

627
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Speaker 2: Right, none, And so I get the trepidation. I really do.

628
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Speaker 4: I mean, history's a lot of times the best indicator

629
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Speaker 4: of what's going to happen. But I guess that is

630
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 4: an ultimate question. Can he adapt? Is he willing to adapt?

631
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Speaker 4: Is he willing to change? He wants to make an

632
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 4: easy for his quarterback. Every offense wants.

633
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Speaker 2: To do that.

634
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 4: But there's gonna have to be a time, I really

635
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 4: believe it, whether he wants to or not, there's gonna

636
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 4: have to be a time where you need like way

637
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 4: to throw forty forty five times and this receiver step

638
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 4: up and go.

639
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Speaker 2: Win a ball game.

640
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially to.

641
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 4: See especially, Yes, you're gonna just I don't know if

642
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a weekend and week out thing, but

643
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to have the ability to do it.

644
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 4: If you want to be a if you want to

645
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 4: be in Atlanta, if you want to be fighting for

646
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 4: one of those twelve college football playoff spots, You're going

647
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 4: to have to be able to do those things in

648
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 4: the passing game.

649
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: If Florida wants to win some games, we.

650
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Speaker 1: Could sit here and talk to her blue in the

651
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: face about what DJ lab can do on the field.

652
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm curious, though, especially in this era of college football

653
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: where there is just so much movement, what has been

654
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: his effect on things like recruiting, What has been his

655
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: effect on things like just roster of attention, keeping guys

656
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: on the roster, avoiding having them transfer out. You know,

657
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: when you find your guy, it tends to have far

658
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: reaching impacts that maybe aren't evident to people who just

659
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: watch on Saturdays. What has that relationship been like behind

660
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: the scenes with Lagway on campus and how has he

661
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: affected the program in ways that you know, guys like

662
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: me can't see a.

663
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: Sense of belief.

664
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 4: I think for the first time under Billion Apris what

665
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 4: he brought to the table own the field. It's good

666
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 4: to own the field last year to we've talked about

667
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 4: ad nauseum. Of course so far the turnaround, but part

668
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 4: of that turnaround is him getting on the field. And

669
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 4: I do think there was some belief on that defensive

670
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 4: side of the football. I was like we have in

671
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 4: the world of gram Mertz, great guy, great leader in

672
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 4: his own right. It was pretty limited at quarterback there

673
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 4: he played well. At times he played he was a

674
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 4: good quarterback, nothing more, nothing less for a lot of

675
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 4: the time. But I think there was a certain sense

676
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 4: of belief that, hey, this kid DJ Lagway can do

677
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 4: some special things. And I think that was a big

678
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 4: part in the retention of bringing so many guys back,

679
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 4: especially along the offensive line on offense, of we have

680
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 4: our guy. He can lead us to more than what

681
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 4: we have seen these last few years.

682
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: Let's he could.

683
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 4: He can pair us with him. If I'm Jake Slaughter,

684
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 4: if I'm Austin Barber, it gives me a belief that, Okay,

685
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 4: I can go to the NFL.

686
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: Now.

687
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 4: N I Helth plays a big part of it as well,

688
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 4: not going to not going to deny that fact, but

689
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 4: I don't think those guys are coming back because they

690
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 4: don't have a chance to do more. And I think

691
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 4: a big part of that is called DJ Lagway. And look,

692
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 4: Jay Michael Sertivan, the transfer the dimensied, He's a big

693
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 4: reason he came in was because, as I mentioned, that

694
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 4: deep threat that DJ Lagway was able to show as

695
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 4: a quarterback.

696
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: He's a big reason why j Michael Surtervan's in that

697
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: wide receiver room.

698
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 4: So and then I also just think going back to

699
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 4: Billy Naper, I think it's believes that he can do

700
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 4: the things that he hasn't been able to do yet

701
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 4: as an offensive coordinator, as a play caller, as a

702
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 4: head coach. But because of DJ Lagway, so it's robbed

703
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 4: a lot more eyeballs on Florida, and I do think

704
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 4: that's kind of I think Dallas Wilson a five star receiver,

705
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 4: Vernal Brown a highly level four star receiver. I think

706
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 4: DJ Lagway is a big part of why those guys

707
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,239
Speaker 4: ended up at Florida as well. So it really was

708
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 4: a trickle down effect of getting him, and I I

709
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 4: think it's pretty pretty well known in the state of Florida,

710
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 4: pretty well known around Gainesville. He's a pretty loyal guy,

711
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 4: and I know a lot of people will throw out

712
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 4: with Billy Apriy gets fired DJ Lagway, he'll look to

713
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 4: go somewhere else. I don't know if that's truly the

714
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 4: He likes ato. He likes being at Florida, his girlfriends

715
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 4: on the softball team. I'm sure that going to play

716
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 4: into it as well. But DJ Lightway likes being in Gainsville.

717
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 4: DJ Lightwaight likes being being a Florida Gator. Now something

718
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 4: happens with the coaching staff, I'm sure he would think

719
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 4: about it. I'm sure there would be a lot of

720
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 4: fighting for Florida to have to keep him, to do

721
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 4: some fighting to have to keep him. But he truly

722
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 4: loves it there. He really loves Billy Napier, he really

723
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 4: loves his staff. So I think there's just a belief

724
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 4: and you know from him, that's a trickle down effect

725
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 4: that you know he can be the guy to help

726
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 4: turn this thing around.

727
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: That's cool. I mean, those are the types of guys

728
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: that you want to be the phase of the program.

729
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: One thing that this is all bringing to mind is

730
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: the statement that Scott Strickland had towards the end of

731
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 1: last season when he announced that they were bringing Billy

732
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: Napier back. And I believe the quote was that they

733
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: wanted a disciplined, stable approach to the football program, which

734
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 1: in a very weird way runs counter to everything college

735
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: football has. But like I don't disagree with that philosophy.

736
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: We've argued on this show for an eternity that stability

737
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: is currency, especially in this day and age. But the

738
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: current state of the sport tends to favor programs that

739
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: can be aggressive and how they adapt to some of

740
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: these new circumstances behind the scenes, not just with how

741
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: DJ Lagway is getting on and maybe being that gravitational player,

742
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: what is Florida doing just as a program on the

743
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: administrative level, on the nil front to keep up with

744
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: that rapid pace of change.

745
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 4: It's kind of been there a personal in the beginning,

746
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 4: I mean, and they really followed it to a t.

747
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 4: Now even billion apers said, look after we got beat

748
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 4: by Texas A and M last year, I even had

749
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 4: to wonder was it the right approach by not heavily

750
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 4: attacking the transfer portal. I mean, the best example is

751
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 4: Brian Kelly goes to LSU. The same year Abillionaire becomes

752
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 4: with Florida and they're you know, right there in the

753
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 4: SEC championship game against Georgia, they attacked the transfer portal

754
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 4: and you know, it paid off, played off bright away,

755
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 4: dadon Danigels comes in and it.

756
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: Wins to the Heisman the next year.

757
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 4: You know, it's just like, why why are they so

758
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 4: aggressive and right away and you know, you see the

759
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 4: benefit there for for that program. You so a lot

760
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 4: of people were asking the questions, and they've been steadfast

761
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 4: on this. We will recruit the high school level, we

762
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 4: will develop and then that took some hits as well.

763
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 4: I mean, you weren't winning enough games. You recruited, you

764
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 4: developed Trevory t and he goes to your biggest rival

765
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 4: in Georgia Princell and you, Mammy Ellen's already already on

766
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 4: the roster, but you developed him for a couple of years.

767
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 2: He goes the old miss You're.

768
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 4: Playing those guys on the other sideline the very next year,

769
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 4: and little behold, it obviously plays off that year that

770
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 4: the storylines happened. But you know it's it's been you know,

771
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 4: I think they've had a second guess a lot because

772
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 4: of those. I think it probably was eye opening that, Hey,

773
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 4: I could recruit a guy at Trevor ET in Georgia

774
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 4: didn't morning other programs didn't. Moan I recruit I developed

775
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 4: he's gonna leave anyway. I think they've learned some hard

776
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 4: lessons along the way, and I don't know if they're

777
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 4: so cutthroat in believing that we have to do it

778
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 4: this way, but I think initially they want to see

779
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 4: if their way going to work first. I think the

780
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 4: leashes pretty forgiving, as we found out last year, and

781
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 4: we're gonna see if far high school approach works. We're

782
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 4: gonna see if, especially this year, if our continuity approach works.

783
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 4: We decided to retain guys. That's what they were telling themselves.

784
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 4: We're bringing back so many pieces, and we're going to

785
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 4: get an answer pretty early in the season. You're going

786
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 4: to baton Rouge and playing an LSU team that brings

787
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 4: in a ton of transfers the very next week. I

788
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 4: guess Miami, who was very active in the transfer a

789
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 4: portal Ole miss very active once again in the transfer

790
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 4: portal Far is an example of continuity and cohesion. How's

791
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 4: that going to match up with and we can answer

792
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 4: early in the season. So I think it's fascinating that

793
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 4: you have Florida playing LSU early, play in Miami early

794
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 4: because polar opposites of the way they have approached how

795
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 4: to build a roster. SAMs Billion, Naper's been here and

796
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 4: just in this season, so I think it's gonna be

797
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 4: fascinating how it pays off. Now, look, there's you won't

798
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 4: get a whole lot of criticism if you go to

799
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 4: LSU and lose in a close game. If you're Billy

800
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 4: Napier and you decide to build your roster this way,

801
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 4: you can't go to Miami the very next week and

802
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 4: lose again to a Miami team that brings in a

803
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 4: different quarterback.

804
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 2: Was very act.

805
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 4: It's been a transfer portal when you have your quarterback returning,

806
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 4: when you bring back so much of the previous year's roster,

807
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 4: you know it's polar opposites there and it's got to

808
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 4: pay off this year for BILLI Naper.

809
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:55,479
Speaker 1: What is Florida set up? From a personnel standpoint, We've

810
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 1: done a bunch of these conversations now, people with intimate

811
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: knowledge very as teams, and it seems everybody has a

812
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: different role for what a GM, what their player personnel

813
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: guy or gal does. How has that, I guess position

814
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: evolved over the course of the last few years In Gainesville.

815
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 4: They have some new hires there coming into this offseason.

816
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 4: I think they made two hires in that front office role. Yeah,

817
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 4: go to be going to be interesting to see because

818
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 4: I still ask how integral is that in college football

819
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 4: when we've been trained for so long that as the

820
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 4: head coach in all of those roles, right, and who

821
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 4: signs off on the final offer, and who signs off

822
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 4: on this offer that offer, who we're bringing in, who

823
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 4: we're keeping, who were who we're not keeping night.

824
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 2: I still.

825
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 4: And maybe every program is different, and we're going to

826
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 4: really have to learn as we maybe a year from now,

827
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 4: of what the actual roles are. Because the last signing

828
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 4: class was already signed by the time these guys had

829
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 4: come in, right early transfer portal had already been signed

830
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 4: by the time these new hires come in for Florida.

831
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 4: So I think we're still going to try to wait

832
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 4: for it, at least on Florida's angle, How does it

833
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 4: work for them? Because it's kind of new for Florida

834
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 4: and that They've had, you know, some guys in some

835
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 4: roles there, but this is the first time they've expanded

836
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 4: that general manager role general manager office there. So I'm

837
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 4: bigger to see, you know, recruiting if we go by.

838
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 4: It was off kind of to a slow start. Now

839
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 4: Florida's starting to get a little warm on the trail

840
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 4: as we head in the June. But it was a

841
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 4: little slow start for this twenty twenty sixth class. After

842
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 4: a flurry finish for the twenty twenty five class, I

843
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 4: got everybody excited softer for Florida's almost kind of wait

844
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 4: and see your approach because they redesigned the back end,

845
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 4: you know, behind the scenes for the general manager parts

846
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 4: and gener manager roles for this team.

847
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. If we've done eight of these conversations,

848
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: we've gotten eight different answers on what the gm AT

849
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: a specific program does. And truly it has been all

850
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: over the map, and I think most programs are in

851
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: the same boat, to be honest with you, Everybody is

852
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: kind of putting their own spin on what that position

853
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: looks like. Clearly, how good a team is or isn't,

854
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: I think has a lot to do with it. But

855
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: it is definitely something we have to watch.

856
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, do we ever get to a point in college

857
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 4: football where a general manager has the final say of

858
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 4: a russ's.

859
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: Spot over a head coach?

860
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: Right, I don't know.

861
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: I mean maybe down the road, but I don't don't.

862
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: And by the way, by the way, it's not just

863
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: roles and responsibilities, but it's reporting structure too. At some

864
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: programs they are tasked with reporting to the athletic director.

865
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: At other programs they are directly reporting into the head coach.

866
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: It's somebody who is under that head guy. So it again,

867
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: there is so much variability. At some point, I suspect

868
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: somebody is going to have a Google sheet and they're

869
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,479
Speaker 1: going to figure out exactly what the calculation is and

870
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: how much they're worth, and what the proper reporting structure

871
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: should be to optimize the whole operation. But it's just

872
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: new territory on so many different fronts. Who knows what

873
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: to expect.

874
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, we saw so many people try and copy the

875
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 4: SABAN process from that, right, and nobody, hardy ever did

876
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 4: it except for Kirby's Martin Georgia. So who's the first

877
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 4: one to figure out?

878
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,959
Speaker 1: We laughed years ago at herm Edwards when he talked

879
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: about coming in and wanting to revolutionize and build a

880
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: pro model, and granted didn't work, arguably made things worse.

881
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: But maybe we've kind of arrived at that point now

882
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: where more teams are thinking about it in terms of

883
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: pro football and not so much the version of college

884
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: football that we've come to know and love after all

885
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: these decades. Let's wind this down a little bit here

886
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: by getting back to the Billy Napier storyline. So, as

887
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: you mentioned a couple times now, the results maybe not

888
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: there quite yet in terms of wins and losses, but

889
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: the trajectory I think is much improved. That is the

890
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: exciting part since the last time we had you on

891
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: this program about two years ago. Bigger picture, mindful of

892
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: the fact that there was some uncertainty with respect to

893
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: Napier and whether or not he would be retained. Bigger

894
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: picture within the Florida community, what is Napier's standing? Has

895
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: there been any kind of vibe shift with respect to

896
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 1: how fans feel about him? Did last season represent something

897
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: of a turning point now where there is more widely

898
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: held belief that he's the guy to get this thing done.

899
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 4: I still leaned towards it gave more of a willing

900
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 4: to wait and see approach.

901
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 2: Okay, but there were.

902
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 4: A big majority of the fan base after that Texas

903
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 4: A and M game last year was okay, it's time time,

904
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 4: it's time to move on. There was a lot of

905
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 4: reports that Florida was moving on.

906
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: We had calls, we had calls coming into our reaverblind,

907
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: a lot of flow. The people were up in arms

908
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: about that.

909
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 4: Right, so you figured it was going to happen. And then,

910
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 4: as our friend Josh Pate would say, Florida had the

911
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 4: audacity to go out there and win. So it certainly

912
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 4: cold the set off a bit, and like I said,

913
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 4: it cold it off. It extended the leash at least

914
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 4: for many to say, Okay, now, given we have somewhat

915
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 4: of an example, and that's what they're coming off of now.

916
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 4: If it had been reversed, say Florida started off hot

917
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 4: last year and then the exact you know, then ended

918
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 4: really really bad, I don't know if he has that

919
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 4: least he has right now.

920
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: I think he's probably gone if that were the case, right, Yeah.

921
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably so probably so if it had been reversed.

922
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,959
Speaker 4: So I think ending this season the way he did,

923
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 4: and don't get me wrong, and it was some big wins.

924
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 4: I mean, you kept LSU, for at the time was

925
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 4: on the outside looking in for a playoff spot. You

926
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 4: kept them out of a playoff spot and the SEC

927
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 4: maybe fight for an SEC championship spot.

928
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: Then you kicked the old mess out of the playoff.

929
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 2: There are some big wins.

930
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 4: And I think danfully for billion Napier was at home

931
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 4: as well. You had the home crowd ready for those

932
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 4: big wins after earlier in the season it was the

933
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 4: home crowd that you had to suffer through Miami in Texas,

934
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 4: A and m So it was an interesting dynamic there.

935
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 4: That's that's how it happened at home, but I think

936
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 4: that was a saving grace as well. And then of

937
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 4: course beat Florida State and win a bowl game for

938
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 4: the first time. So I think the end of last

939
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 4: year extended the leash a little bit and really made

940
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 4: Gator Nations say, all right, we'll pump the brakes.

941
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: A little bit.

942
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 4: But now let's see there's a lot of the fan

943
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 4: base and I've asked questions on Twitter to take it

944
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 4: to kind of come out the answer of we love

945
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,479
Speaker 4: where this roster is at most Gator fans say, hey,

946
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 4: we like where the roster is. I don't know if

947
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 4: Billion Naper is a guy that will get nine wins

948
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 4: ten wins to get this team to the to the

949
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 4: college football playoff.

950
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: That's where the hold up is.

951
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 4: There still is a lot of trepidation about Billion Naper,

952
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 4: the game day coach. BILLI Naper is the play call

953
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 4: Can he have better time management? Can he call a

954
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 4: better play on third and two? Can Florida score in

955
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 4: late in the first half, early in the second half?

956
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 4: Can Florida win the middleway? I mean, it's just been

957
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 4: those little dynamics that you look at for a football

958
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 4: coach that makes the difference that he really hasn't made

959
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 4: that difference for showing he can make that difference yet.

960
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 4: Is it just a matter of Okay, now he's got

961
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 4: his talent and he'll be able to show those things.

962
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 4: So there's still a lot of questions. I hate to

963
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 4: kind of cop out and take the easy way out,

964
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 4: but when you have a coach that's five hundred right

965
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 4: now and a lot of people will acknowledge, you know,

966
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 4: what he had to dig out from from under Dan Mullen.

967
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 4: There's still a lot of questions of can he be

968
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 4: the guy with this roster, his handpit quarterback, so many

969
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 4: pieces returning to get the most out of a roster

970
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 4: that he's built.

971
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: With his roster, with his quarterback, with this brutal schedule

972
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm looking at right now. Okay, so they play same

973
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: SEC opponents as last season, but now there are road

974
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: trips to LSU to A and M to Old Miss.

975
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: In addition to that, those are three teams that should

976
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: be pretty good in their own right. You've got Texas,

977
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: You've got Georgia, You've got Tennessee, even Florida State. Maybe

978
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: Florida State can get its act together this year. Who

979
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 1: knows how many wins for you represent genuine progress versus

980
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 1: what is the realistic expectation? Looking at this slate? Are

981
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: they the same thing?

982
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: You read?

983
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 4: In my mind, I was gonna say they're the same thing.

984
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 4: Nine to three yet bare minimum?

985
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: Okay? Is that realistic?

986
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 2: I think it is.

987
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 4: Okay, I think it is. It's her four, it's Tom.

988
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 4: We understand the schedule is tough, but if Florida's on

989
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 4: the right track, you overcome it. I mean, I think

990
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 4: that's the expectation most of Gator Nation had has set,

991
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 4: has set for Billy Naper and that We've had this

992
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 4: fascinating conversation like this on the on our discord on

993
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 4: Gator's Breakdown Plus, and it's just like one of the

994
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 4: users has asked, would you be happy if Florida was

995
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 4: Old Miss last year? If you lose three games in

996
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 4: late in the season, you miss out on the playoffs.

997
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: I think you would take that, wouldn't you? Given where

998
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 1: Florida has been?

999
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 4: I think most most most did, And as you said,

1000
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 4: kind of where Florida has been. When you look at

1001
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 4: it and take kind of record away from it, a

1002
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 4: lot of people say, no, it's your four. I won't

1003
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 4: playoff no matter what. I don't care if it's And look,

1004
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 4: maybe Florida gets the benefit of the doubt that Bama

1005
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 4: South Carolina the Old Miss, didn't last year because of

1006
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 4: the schedule. Maybe, and of course you got to see

1007
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 4: what happens around you with other teams as well. But

1008
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 4: I think most people looking at that schedule and say

1009
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 4: nine to three we should be good enough for Florida

1010
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 4: in a playoff spot.

1011
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: Well, look, there's no Oklahoma or Vandy to lose to

1012
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: on this schedule, so they should be fine, you.

1013
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 4: Think so, you think so, but yeah, I think most

1014
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 4: of it even you know what, you can admit both times,

1015
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 4: both things at the same time. It is a very

1016
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 4: tough schedule. Nobody is denying that fact. But this might

1017
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 4: be your best shot.

1018
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 2: And I know you might.

1019
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 4: I know, you get DJ log Way back next year,

1020
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 4: and you get this exciting receiver group returning next year.

1021
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,959
Speaker 4: But as I mentioned, all the Trench players that return

1022
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 4: on both sides of the ball, and they retain this

1023
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 4: roster to make it run this year, you got you'll

1024
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 4: have some heavy roster turnover for the twenty twenty sixth season. Now,

1025
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 4: maybe the schedule eases up, and who knows what the

1026
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 4: playoff format it is, maybe you get it anyway. But

1027
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 4: at the same time, I think with the twelve team

1028
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 4: expanded playoff and what most just think it's time. It's

1029
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 4: been too long to end up in a twelve team playoff.

1030
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 4: But I think record wise it starts nine to three.

1031
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 4: If it's eight and four, and maybe depending on the wins,

1032
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 4: maybe if you get a win over Georgia and that's

1033
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 4: part of your eight wins, you buy some Gator fans

1034
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 4: off with that. But I think I think nine and

1035
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 4: three from from all the talks that I've had and

1036
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 4: even my own personal feelings a bit. I think nine

1037
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 4: and three is that that magic record that would show

1038
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 4: clear progress whether I guess if you make the playoff

1039
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 4: or not.

1040
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: Okay, his name is David Waters. You can find all

1041
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: his fine work out at Gator's Breakdown podcast website, YouTube channel.

1042
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: Is there anything else that we should mention while we're

1043
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: here before we let you go?

1044
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 4: Know, just follow recruiting all throughout the summer. Vacation's coming up.

1045
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 4: But we got Hey, we got a big event if

1046
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 4: you're if you're a Gator fan and if you listen

1047
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 4: to other podcasts out there, High Top Sports Stadium and

1048
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 4: GIL late July, we're gonna have a big event in

1049
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 4: Gainesville or calling it the Independent Gator Media Day. Uh

1050
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 4: so we're trying to get players involved, former players, all

1051
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 4: that good stuff. You can look at the link for

1052
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 4: my stuff. But we're trying to right after sec ME,

1053
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 4: today's kind of gonna hold our own little little shindig.

1054
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 4: They're in Gainsville, so I'll be able to look out

1055
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 4: for that.

1056
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: That's awesome again, check out David's work Gators Breakdown. I

1057
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: got a command you man, it's very thorough. You can

1058
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: tell that you are passionate about the team. I read

1059
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: you as often as I can whenever I need to

1060
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: know anything about Florida football. So keep doing what you're doing.

1061
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure to have you back on here.

1062
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: And maybe next time we'll have a nine to three

1063
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: season or better to talk about.

1064
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 4: Hopefully, so maybe Flannna is fine for that playoffs spot

1065
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 4: and then we can have some conversation going.

1066
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: Along that way.

1067
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: You know it, David Waters again, check him out. Thank

1068
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: you as always for your time. All right, Dan, let's

1069
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 1: bring it back home. Yes, for those wondering who listened

1070
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: to the last forty five or so minutes, Dan was

1071
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: not part of the interview, but Dan is now part

1072
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: of the outro. Just the way we work things here

1073
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: on the show. As I said at the very top,

1074
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: I really appreciate Dave's perspective on all things Florida because

1075
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: he is extremely comprehensive in his coverage. Yes, and so

1076
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: he is one of those guys we all have these

1077
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: different sources that we turn to when we have a

1078
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: question about a team to see what they're saying, to

1079
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 1: see what is going on at a moment in time.

1080
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: David is my guy for all things Florida nice, so

1081
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled that we had him on the program. Would

1082
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 1: encourage everybody to go out and check his work out

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Speaker 1: at Gators Breakdown dot com. Pleasure as always to bring

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Speaker 1: him on the show.

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Speaker 3: Since I haven't listened to it yet, was this year's

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Speaker 3: schedule broached?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course I.

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Speaker 3: Counted I think seven plausible playoff conversation teams on this schedule,

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Speaker 3: given that Miami is one of the non conference opponents. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: on this schedule, it's listen, it's a brutal slate. It's something,

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Speaker 3: It's an absolutely brutal slate. It's the same SEC opponents

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Speaker 3: from a year ago, but it's mixing and matching.

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Speaker 1: A little bit with where they're playing some of these bonents.

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Speaker 1: And of course the big question I pose this one

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Speaker 1: to David as well, what is the reasonable expectation for

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Speaker 1: this team? What will represent progress for this team? And

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Speaker 1: his answer was nine and three, Sure, you will get

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Speaker 1: the schedule. Nine and three is going to be a climb.

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Speaker 1: Nine and three maybe gets you on the periphery of

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Speaker 1: the playoff discussion. I don't know, but nine and three

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Speaker 1: certainly with this schedule puts you well within the conversation

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Speaker 1: of the top fifteen if they can get there. But

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Speaker 1: a lot is riding on the receiver room, a younger

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Speaker 1: receiver room, finding ways to get pop. A lot of

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Speaker 1: this is riding on their defense continuing to take strides forward,

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Speaker 1: not the least of which is DJ Lagway on the

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Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball apparently now healthy, good to go,

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Speaker 1: just had a tired shoulder, but he is definitely that

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Speaker 1: big name that Billy Napier is hanging a lot, a

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Speaker 1: lot on, So we shall see. I'm excited to see

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Speaker 1: what the future has in store for the Florida Gators

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Speaker 1: this year in twenty twenty five. Of course, would encourage

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Speaker 1: everybody out there if you've got thoughts on what you

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Speaker 1: heard or just on some of your own prep that

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Speaker 1: you're doing in advance of the season with respect to Florida,

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Speaker 1: hit us up solid verbal at gmail dot com. You

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00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 1: can of course reach out on social media as well,

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Speaker 1: and last but not least, for ballers dot com is

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00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: where you can go if you want to further support

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Speaker 1: out on the patreon.

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Speaker 3: Dan Well the good news whether or not nine and

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Speaker 3: three gets Florida to the periphery of the playoff. The

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Speaker 3: good news is we're two, maybe three short years away

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Speaker 3: from Greg Sankie insisting on like nine auto bids for

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Speaker 3: the SEC. Hear me out, hear me out, hear me out.

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Speaker 3: We've gone to thirty eight playoff teams. Thirty eight In

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Speaker 3: that case, it's literally every team in the SEC is

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Speaker 3: going to get an auto bid. We're not that far

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Speaker 3: off from a nine and three team that played in

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Speaker 3: the SEC getting an autobid no matter what, even if

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Speaker 3: they finished fifth or sixth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are so many hot button topics floating

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Speaker 1: around the College of Believer right now that it's truly

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Speaker 1: tough to keep track of. That's why we're here. We're

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Speaker 1: doing our best to keep everybody up the speed as

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Speaker 1: best we can, but we do miss things. If we

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Speaker 1: do again, please reach out let us know.

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Speaker 3: I have one more sidebar about the Florida Gators. Yes, please,

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Speaker 3: upon Florida adding permanently won't back down by Tom Petty

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Speaker 3: between the third and fourth quarters. I think it is

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Speaker 3: so killer. I think it is such a killer thing

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Speaker 3: that Florida fans and the swamp do. It sounds great,

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Speaker 3: It's a great sing along song getting the phone lights

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Speaker 3: out there. I think it is an absolute value add

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Speaker 3: to this sport.

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Speaker 1: That's a value add. You know what else is a

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Speaker 1: value add? Please, we had a chance to witness this

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Speaker 1: when we're up at Michigan. Mister Brightside, mister Brightside is great.

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Speaker 1: That was frigging cool. I've seen The Killers multiple times.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's cliche, but geez brag much. I've always liked

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Speaker 1: The Killers. Yeah, one of my favorite songs. Ever. The

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Speaker 1: fact that now they play that at Michigan, maybe it

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Speaker 1: doesn't have the same gravitas for the youth of America

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Speaker 1: the way it did for people of your generation, Dan,

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Speaker 1: but nonetheless, it was a really cool scene when they

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Speaker 1: play that up at Michigan.

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: I think that's like a new not just Michigan song.

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Speaker 3: I think that is just a full on new sports

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Speaker 3: anthem in the way that's Seven Nation Army like songs

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Speaker 3: like that, Like that song has been taken from The

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Speaker 3: Killers and sort of bestowed upon sports fans everywhere. That's

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Speaker 3: it's just an anthemic song, and that Michigan's using it

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Speaker 3: is terrific.

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Speaker 1: It's great, awesome, all right, Well, big thanks again to

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Speaker 1: David Waters. Go and check out Gator Dave at gators

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Speaker 1: breakdown dot com. Not just the website, not just the podcast,

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Speaker 1: but also YouTube. He is all over the place, does

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Speaker 1: a great job covering the Gators. We will definitely have

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Speaker 1: him on again sometime soon. In the meantime, hit fall,

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