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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt we are another day closer.

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Speaker 3: To a yet Steelers game.

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Speaker 2: Getting back on the field here. Can't wait for that.

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Speaker 2: That's a bad yuh bye about Thursday. I'm like, man,

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Speaker 2: I wish we had a game to talk about that.

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Speaker 3: It just happened exactly so ago.

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Speaker 2: But we do have some practice reports.

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Speaker 3: Stuffy start there.

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Speaker 2: Uh So yesterday, pretty much everybody for the Steelers that

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Speaker 2: you expected to practice practice. The only guy who was

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Speaker 2: didn't really practice was well Patrick Peterson, but that was

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Speaker 2: a Wednesday and he never practiced on Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Same thing.

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Speaker 2: Nick Herbig im back or nothing. Yeah, he has a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a quad. He was limited yesterday. But

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Speaker 2: other than that, everybody practiced.

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Speaker 4: Because Herbig played very little on defense the last game,

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Speaker 4: but he played all the special team stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like he's playing the most special team steps on

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Speaker 2: the team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah he is, because he's also on kick block and

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Speaker 3: stuff like that. Everything he's on everything.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, he is the most special team snaps on

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Speaker 4: the team good news. I mean, we have not seen

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Speaker 4: the Thursday practice report right.

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Speaker 5: Not yet.

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Speaker 2: No, And that's this is what happens when they play

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Speaker 2: a West Coast team, kind of hold it, hold it

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Speaker 2: close until you get there. I'm not going to show

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Speaker 2: you mine until you show me your horse.

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Speaker 3: But they still practice either way, and it's not like this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all that, I mean I know what I saw

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Speaker 2: it practice.

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Speaker 4: Right right, Wait till it comes out. Yeah, I can't really,

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Speaker 4: but no, that's all promising and uh, you.

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Speaker 2: Know Cam Hayward getting closer as well. There may be

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Speaker 2: there's the possibility that that window gets open within the

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Speaker 2: next week to two weeks, two weeks. Two weeks is

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Speaker 2: the latest, two weeks at the latest.

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Speaker 4: That's that's perfect. So what's the upcoming schedule? They have Jacksonville,

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Speaker 4: who plays tonight, Yeah, here next Sunday.

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Speaker 2: And then they play Tennessee on a short week on

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Speaker 2: a Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Here here they're both here, Okay, So I would think

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Speaker 3: at the latest after that. Yeah, with two close games.

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Speaker 2: Like that coming up, that's gonna be the only tricky

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Speaker 2: thing about it is those two games that are back

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Speaker 2: to back like that, you'd love to have him for

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Speaker 2: you for everything, which you'd really like to have him

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Speaker 2: against the Titans, who everything?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, with the Derrick Henry situation, who knows who their

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks on.

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Speaker 2: The way jacksonvill is running the ball too?

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Speaker 4: No, no doubt their physical, physical front and no Cam

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Speaker 4: would be ver useful against anyone.

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Speaker 3: Of course.

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Speaker 2: Looking at the Rams practice report from Wednesday, okay, there's

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Speaker 2: a little more concerning for them. Linebacker Ernest Jones with

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Speaker 2: a knee did not practice.

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Speaker 3: I would say he's there.

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Speaker 2: He's their second mess yet.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, most important green dot guy, professional starting linebacker, good player.

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Speaker 2: Defensive tackle Laurel Murchison did not pay actue he's got

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Speaker 2: a knee, Okay, he couldn't pick.

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Speaker 3: Him out of the lineup. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Running back yeah, Kyron Williams did not practice. He's not

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Speaker 2: going to play. Wide receiver Ben Scronick with an achilles

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Speaker 2: was limited. Nose tackle Kobe Turner with a shoulder was limited.

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Speaker 3: Offense roles really reduced, Yeah, I mean with the coup

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Speaker 2: Offensive lineman Joe note Boom with a groin was limited. Okay,

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Speaker 2: the starter, UH offensive lineman Kevin Dotson. People will recognize

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Speaker 2: that name. He has an ankle, but he was a

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Speaker 2: full participant. And this is this is the interesting one.

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Speaker 2: Cornerback Darien Kendrick, uh was not there and I was

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Speaker 2: reading the interviews with Sean McVay yesterday and he was

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Speaker 2: asked a lot of questions about Kendrick Kenrick. He got

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Speaker 2: arrested at two thirty AM or two ish on Monday.

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Speaker 3: Morning, Monday morning, like lately.

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Speaker 2: In Hollywood with a gun and a bag of weed,

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Speaker 2: driving around town. Yeah, and gun was unregistered. This is

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Speaker 2: not the first time he's had problem. This is this

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Speaker 2: was an issue for him in college as well. And

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Speaker 2: then the reports were that the initial reports said that

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Speaker 2: somebody named Darien Kendrick was arrested. He's a player for

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Speaker 2: the Rams, you know. They later found out through the

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Speaker 2: reports at two thirty am. As of the time the

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Speaker 2: he still hadn't been released from There was no there

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Speaker 2: was no report of him being released from prison, so

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Speaker 2: he was still in the they counted jail.

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Speaker 3: Public Yeah would know this stuff.

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Speaker 2: So McVeigh was asked about it, you know, because obviously

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Speaker 2: he wasn't there yesterday. Kendrick and he said, well, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the situation is. We're letting this

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Speaker 2: get sorted out. And the follow up was, well, have

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Speaker 2: you spoken to Darry And he says, no, I haven't

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Speaker 2: spoken to him. I spoke to his lawyer. Here, the

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Speaker 2: head coaching. You didn't call him up and say, Darien,

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Speaker 2: what's what's going on here?

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Speaker 5: You call it?

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Speaker 2: You're talking through the lawyer. I don't think he plays

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Speaker 2: this week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you would think you'd just pick up your cell phone,

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Speaker 4: call your cell phone and be like, hey, well, if you're.

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Speaker 2: The player, like I'm picking up the phone going coach.

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Speaker 2: Coach has some problems. Meanwhile, McVeigh is dealing with a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a thing himself. Here. His wife is

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Speaker 2: nine months pregnant, like very pregnant, right, very pregnant. Like

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Speaker 2: they're going to induce, like the day after they played

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Speaker 2: the Steelers, they will induce the pregnancy and have her.

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Speaker 3: She'll have the baby. It's got to be on your mind, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because it was.

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Speaker 2: There was potential because they played I think they played

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Speaker 2: on the road last week.

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Speaker 3: They were home.

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Speaker 2: But there were there were reports out there that he

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Speaker 2: might not coach the game because his wife is very pregnant.

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Speaker 3: He's also the play caller.

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Speaker 2: Yes, kind of a big deal.

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Speaker 3: Kind of a big deal.

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Speaker 4: So back to Kendrick just for a second, real quick,

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Speaker 4: because Kendrick was a four or five star, heavily recruited guy,

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Speaker 4: went to Clemson, originally got booted, went to Georgia and

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Speaker 4: was a starter on that defense, I mean, the Georgia

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Speaker 4: being a very late pick because he didn't test well

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Speaker 4: so they grabbed him. But he's a starter for he's

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Speaker 4: he was drafted because of off the field issues.

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Speaker 3: Frankly, I haven't noticed him playing great or bad this year.

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Speaker 3: They played a lot of his own. They don't ask a

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Speaker 2: And that's what he shouted. He was like, he ran

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Speaker 2: like a four to seven.

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Speaker 3: He didn't run well.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's big and he's physical, and he has

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Speaker 4: some good ball production and college stuff like that. But

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Speaker 4: McVeigh obviously be a much bigger loss, and you got

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Speaker 4: to think, I mean, I'm sure he's on top of

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Speaker 3: He's a really good coach. He's a really good offensive mine.

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Speaker 4: But things at home matter, you know, and he's worried

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now note boom is interesting if he's banged up

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Speaker 2: at all. He's a starting right guard.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been. He's been a tackle, he's been a guard.

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Speaker 4: He's a quality player. He's another good athlete. Hasn't quite

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Speaker 4: like turned the corner, but he's important. I mean, they

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Speaker 4: had so many line injuries last year. They traded for Dotson,

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Speaker 4: who's played well for them because they have a lack

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Speaker 4: that was a last minute move, as people remember, so

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Speaker 4: their lines not super stable.

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Speaker 2: No, it isn't speaking of Dotson there, I saw this.

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Speaker 2: I get these emails about certain things that are being

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Speaker 2: said on certain different things out there. I don't even

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Speaker 2: know why I get them.

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Speaker 3: And there was a.

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Speaker 2: Threat out there. Pro Football Focus has Kevin Dotson rated

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Speaker 2: really highly this year.

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Speaker 3: Same with the Keller Witherspoon. Yeah, I've been getting this

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Speaker 3: all day.

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Speaker 2: Who's grading the You don't know who the greater.

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Speaker 4: Is for this, you know, I mean I haven't studied

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Speaker 4: every snap of Witherspoon and Dotson. But we talked about

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Speaker 4: this last night with Tim and Tom on the our

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Speaker 4: Wednesday Show, which is a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: Everyone should tune in.

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Speaker 4: But what I said with Witherspoon was, Hey, I rooted

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Speaker 4: for both these guys.

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Speaker 3: I hope they have great careers, and you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I never had a problem with either one of

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Speaker 4: When people have success after they leave an organization doesn't

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Speaker 4: mean the other organization stupid all of a sudden, you know,

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Speaker 4: like that's the insinuation.

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Speaker 2: So Witherspoon two years ago played well in the short

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Speaker 3: Steelers, exactly what I said last night.

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Speaker 2: Witherspoon last year, when the Steelers were counting on him,

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Speaker 2: couldn't stay healthy.

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Speaker 4: Right right, right right, So he's moving on from him

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Speaker 4: made all the sense in the world because they couldn't

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Speaker 4: trust him. And throughout Witherspoon's career he has put together,

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Speaker 4: including with the Steelers, a nice month, a nice three

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Speaker 4: five game stretch. Consistency is the issue there. I mean,

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Speaker 4: the fact that he is playing well in a zone

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Speaker 4: heavy scheme and making plays on the ball and you know,

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Speaker 4: not getting beat a lot doesn't surprise me at all,

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Speaker 4: and I think it'll be much more newsworthy if he

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Speaker 4: still is two months from now, right, Yeah, but that's

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Speaker 4: been the issue with him. As for Dotson, he's had

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Speaker 4: success in his career. My issue with him last year

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Speaker 4: was a lot of mental errors.

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Speaker 2: And penalties and penalties and any.

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Speaker 3: Kind of stuff.

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Speaker 4: Right, I mean, has he cleaned those things up? He

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Speaker 4: could always block people, well, big body guy, nice find

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Speaker 4: in the mid rounds. I think they just didn't trust

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Speaker 4: him assignment wise and penalty wise. So they went out

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Speaker 4: and got to see Amalu and Daniels and tournament of

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Speaker 4: draft pick.

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Speaker 2: I'm just looking here at what they've So he's played

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Speaker 2: the last three weeks for them, basically, uh, and he's

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Speaker 2: got it somehow. An offensive grade here of eighty five

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Speaker 3: I think he's like the highest graded guard in their

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Speaker 2: He's given up two sacks and three games, has he really?

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Speaker 2: I mean, so who's grading this stuff?

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Speaker 3: Again?

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Speaker 4: I don't football focuses in Gospel, but definitely the two

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Speaker 4: spots that I trust them least is O line and secondary.

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Speaker 2: And I mean, honestly, he's played. He's played one hundred

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Again, I haven't studied him. Maybe he's having a tremendous year.

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Speaker 2: No, No, he hasn't had a penalty this year yet.

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Speaker 4: But even just watching all twenty two last year penalties

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Speaker 2: No, you can't, because you can go find somebody, Yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: And see him all lose the opposite.

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Speaker 4: He's got a great head for the game, a little

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Speaker 3: It doesn't mean he can't.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know the fact that he's I hope

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Speaker 4: I hope he's playing tremendous. Same with Witherspoon.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't mean the Steelers are stupid, though, No. I

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Speaker 4: Because somebody went on and had a good career elsewhere,

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Speaker 2: See this, So I'm looking here at Dan Moore's grades

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Speaker 3: Looks like nine point three.

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Speaker 2: Dotson is like, don't tell me about Oh he gave

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Speaker 5: Hor?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who did he play against those? He gave up

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It bothers me that if you're on the air with

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Speaker 4: he graded really bad.

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Speaker 3: By the by his offensive line coach.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, if by anybody who actually matters, right, If you

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Speaker 3: Grading the O line.

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Speaker 4: Maybe he did great, great that day, or terrible that day,

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Speaker 3: It's a guy coaching.

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Speaker 2: It was I'm watching I can't remember what show it

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Speaker 3: After he was injured.

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Speaker 2: He didn't make the play.

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Speaker 2: Oh, look at that, Miles Garretty. I saw another one

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Speaker 3: He didn't make the play.

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Speaker 2: Cool, he didn't make the play. He didn't come close

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean doing something pre snap isn't difficult. He's

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Speaker 3: We all know that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I could go out there and jump up

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Speaker 5: It's the whole.

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Speaker 2: It's the whole Andy Reid thing with all Andy Reid's

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Speaker 2: Score touchdown.

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Speaker 5: Results.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Like this is the world we live in now

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Speaker 4: No, here, let's put something cool on ESPN and that'll

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Speaker 4: be what we talk about. Yeah, you know, hey, did

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Speaker 3: You know that's what coaches came about.

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Speaker 3: I think he is a bad grade too. Oh he's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people are talking about him like he's playing now,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't have any turnovers yet.

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Speaker 3: Well, two things on that teams fear him.

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Speaker 4: They do not throw his way, absolutely, and the flip

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Speaker 2: Really don't want to nowhere thirty nine lines up.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's almost like when forty three was running around,

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Speaker 3: Go keep that one.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know how I can't speak to how

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Speaker 2: He's played one hundred and fifty snaps is a deep safety.

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Speaker 3: Who might line up outside the numbers one play.

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Speaker 2: He's going around and following some of these tough matchups.

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Speaker 2: He's going with George Kittle. Yeah, you know those kind

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Speaker 4: So you know, and I bet he's target ratio or

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, so is it you don't

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Speaker 2: Was George Kittle a big reason why this forty nine

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: Like that matters and big plays are tremendous, and we

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Speaker 4: I mean, no, there's no reason to think that. But

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Speaker 3: On the ball.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing like it goes back.

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Speaker 3: No worries about that guy.

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Speaker 2: It's what we used to say about Terrell Edmonds. You

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Speaker 3: There's no stats for those.

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Speaker 4: There's no stat on that you know should have targeted

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Speaker 2: Too new, no idea.

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Speaker 3: Really don't.

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Speaker 4: Just because the quarterback looked his way first does not

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Speaker 2: why aren't they drawing up plays for for George Pickens?

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Speaker 2: it depends on the defense. You know what what look

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: And by the way, Pickens is getting a huge target

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Speaker 2: to a break. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lully.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: And on the phone we have the Doctor of Doom

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Speaker 2: here or that's not where that name has been taken,

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Speaker 2: but we'll keep it with you anyways. Here Bob, Bob Labriola,

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Speaker 2: Editor of Steelers Digest Steelers dot Com. Are we living

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Speaker 2: in our fears this week?

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Speaker 5: Again? Now?

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Speaker 2: Bob, since thee Steelers have a game.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you know the Steelers are They've won

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Speaker 5: six in a row after the bye, that's true. Mike

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Speaker 5: tomlin Is in his coaching career is twelve and four

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Speaker 5: after the bye, tied with Baltimore and Indianapolis for the

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Speaker 5: best records in the NFL. You know, over that same

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Speaker 5: the buy, So you know, there's there's some numbers there

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Speaker 5: that would give people, you know, some hope, some reason

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Speaker 5: to win, and you've got to control Aaron Donald to

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Speaker 5: get them. So, I mean, the offense is really going

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Speaker 5: to have to pick it up and right now. So hey,

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Speaker 5: it hasn't happened so far this year in terms of

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Speaker 5: It should be interesting, I think, and it can potentially

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so as well. And I made notes

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Speaker 2: in my five for Friday last week. I looked this

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Speaker 2: up since in the last ten years, Bob Mike Tomlin's

447
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Speaker 2: teams all games post by so the rest of the

448
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Speaker 2: season after their bye.

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Speaker 3: Like they were seven to two last year.

450
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sixty one twenty eight and one, which tells

451
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Speaker 2: me that they make adjustments at the bye week because

452
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Speaker 2: that's better than his career winning percentage.

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Speaker 5: Well, there you go, Dale, You're trying to make me

454
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Speaker 5: feel good.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm here for, is to bring a little

456
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Speaker 2: cheer into your day.

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Speaker 3: The labs.

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Speaker 4: I assume you referenced it. I assume you don't think

459
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Speaker 4: that coming off of bye with a six game winning

460
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Speaker 4: streak or those things are fluky.

461
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Speaker 3: I mean I think there is an art to it.

462
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean absolutely, because it does disrupt, you know,

463
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Speaker 5: the rhythm that the team is in, the players are in.

464
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Speaker 5: The other thing is it's never the same It never

465
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Speaker 5: comes the same exact same point in the season. So

466
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Speaker 5: you know, it's not like you could prepare for it,

467
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Speaker 5: you know what I mean in terms of okay, you

468
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Speaker 5: know when the season starts, well, last year you know,

469
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Speaker 5: we we did this, this, and this, then came the

470
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Speaker 5: then the by came, and then we used it for

471
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Speaker 5: these reasons, and then we did this, this and this

472
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Speaker 5: after you know, it's it's never the same, so it's

473
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Speaker 5: kind of a moving target. But it would indicate certainly

474
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Speaker 5: that you know, there are some things that you know

475
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Speaker 5: are happening during the buy that you know, the Steelers

476
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Speaker 5: are making good use of the time and uh, you

477
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Speaker 5: know coming through it on the other side, ready to

478
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Speaker 5: go and hitting on you know, all cylinders at least,

479
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Speaker 5: you know, as much as that is realistic for any

480
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Speaker 5: team at this point in the regular season. So yeah,

481
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Speaker 5: that the health seems to be better. I think that

482
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Speaker 5: that's you know, the James Daniels availability to me. You know,

483
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Speaker 5: everybody's talking about the Auntay Johnson and the Anthony McFarland

484
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Speaker 5: and those those guys are important. Don't don't don't misunderstand me.

485
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Speaker 5: But man, if you've got Aaron Donald in the middle

486
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Speaker 5: of the line of scrimmage, it sure will help. The

487
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Speaker 5: heck is starting my guard, you know, so uh yeah,

488
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Speaker 5: that that one to me is significant. He has been

489
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Speaker 5: a full participant in the last couple of days, so Yeah, yay.

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Speaker 5: It looks like because the in my opinion, Matt Matt,

491
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Speaker 5: and I don't know if you agree with me, the

492
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Speaker 5: middle of the interior, the interior of the offensive line

493
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Speaker 5: has not been up to my expectations.

494
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Speaker 4: I do think Malo is playing better and better, and

495
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Speaker 4: I am excited to get Daniels back.

496
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Speaker 5: But I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: I thought they'd have one of the better guard tandems

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Speaker 4: in the league.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and you know, they haven't had well, certainly on

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Speaker 5: the right side. They haven't had the guy that they

501
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Speaker 5: you know, thought they were going to have there, and

502
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Speaker 5: you know, see them all did not start like I

503
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Speaker 5: thought he would. I mean, I was really excited about

504
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Speaker 5: him throughout the training camp, pre season process. And you know,

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Speaker 5: Mason Cole is a you know, a good guy, and

506
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Speaker 5: I just I mean, he kind of reminds me, not

507
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Speaker 5: necessarily in terms of the way he plays or how

508
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Speaker 5: he plays. He reminds me justin Hartwood in the sense

509
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Speaker 5: that you know, you can win games with him, but

510
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Speaker 5: you know, you got to upgrade exactly, you got to

511
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Speaker 5: upgrade there. I mean, and that's why they picked Pouncy

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Speaker 5: in the first round in twenty ten.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, is the Steeler historian.

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Speaker 5: You are.

515
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Speaker 4: No one might understand how important a stud center is

516
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Speaker 4: better than you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the three that have been here ridiculous. I

518
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Speaker 3: mean what the advantage that.

519
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Speaker 5: Is, yes, and the things that you can do with them. Yeah, yeah,

520
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Speaker 5: I mean, and I've seen, you know, just clips sometimes,

521
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Speaker 5: you know, clips you see on social media. It's not

522
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Speaker 5: necessarily about but you just see him showing up down

523
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Speaker 5: the field doing stuff like that. You know. Merril Hodge

524
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Speaker 5: always talked about when he left the Steelers as an

525
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Speaker 5: unrestricted free agent and went to the Bears. One of

526
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Speaker 5: the first things the Bears did when they got him

527
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Speaker 5: there was they brought him in and they're talking to him,

528
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Speaker 5: you know, showing them how they do things. And the

529
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Speaker 5: guy said, well, you know, we want to be able

530
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Speaker 5: to run all like the Steelers, And so Hodge starts

531
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Speaker 5: explaining how the Steelers did that, and he drew up

532
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Speaker 5: a play for them, goal line, goal line playing, and

533
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Speaker 5: he pulls the center out because it was Drumoni Dawson,

534
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Speaker 5: and the guy, the Bear, said, we don't have anybody

535
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Speaker 5: who can do that. Hart said. He said, well, then

536
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Speaker 5: you can't run the ball like the stealer. And that's

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Speaker 5: I mean that's the kind of guy. You know, Dawson

538
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Speaker 5: was that. Pouncy was that you know, Webster wasn't that

539
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Speaker 5: kind of guy in terms of you know, athletic ability

540
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Speaker 5: in space, that kind of stuff. But I mean nobody

541
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Speaker 5: bullrushed him either, so.

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Speaker 3: Real quick labs.

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Speaker 4: Wolf always tells a story like when he would be

544
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Speaker 4: in the the O line meeting room.

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Speaker 3: Webby never had a negative grade, you.

546
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Speaker 4: Know, just was always super consistent, technically sound exactly how

547
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Speaker 4: you coach it, you know, like every week, every play.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and you know, you when you have that and

550
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Speaker 5: you go from one to the next. Kind of it

551
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Speaker 5: was certainly Webster to Dawson, and then there was you

552
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Speaker 5: know a little bit of a gap between Dermani and Pouncy.

553
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Speaker 5: But you know, you watch a lot of that kind

554
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Speaker 5: of football, that kind of offensive line play. You know

555
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Speaker 5: you just start getting like, you know, you expect them

556
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Speaker 5: to be able to do that. I mean, you're down

557
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Speaker 5: at the goal line, pull the center, let's go, you know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah right, yeah, so I do think that, you know,

559
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Speaker 5: there needs to be some improvement there, but again that's

560
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Speaker 5: not necessarily a you know, a rip on Mason Cole.

561
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Speaker 5: We're talking about Hall of Fame people, and you know,

562
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Speaker 5: I always one of the things Tounch always told me

563
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Speaker 5: was the two best centers you know, of the era

564
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Speaker 5: before Dawson were Dwight Stevenson and Webster. And Tounch always

565
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Speaker 5: believed that demon in Dawson combined the two of them.

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Speaker 5: He had the strength and the you know, the ability

567
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Speaker 5: to hold his own in the middle, but he also

568
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Speaker 5: had the athletic ability to get out and make things

569
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Speaker 5: happen on the Priminer in a way that is unnatural

570
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Speaker 5: for that position at the time.

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Speaker 3: So that waste for people don't know, right, is that

572
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Speaker 3: what I said?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

574
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Speaker 3: Did I just I didn't know if knew wo Stevenson was,

575
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Speaker 3: but he was. Yes, I hope they do because he was.

576
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Speaker 2: He was good too.

577
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Speaker 5: Yeah. So anyway, I mean, uh so the point let's

578
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Speaker 5: you know, I kind of interrupt myself many times and

579
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 5: go off on tangents, but uh, the point being that

580
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Speaker 5: dealing with Aaron Donald on Sunday would have been as difficult,

581
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Speaker 5: you know, it would have been a difficult job if

582
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Speaker 5: you had to Monty Dawson or Mike Webster, because you know,

583
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 5: this guy is a transition, transformational kind of player. Three

584
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 5: time Defensive Player of the Year. I mean, so not

585
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Speaker 5: too shabby at all. And you know, he's not having

586
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 5: a eight year this year in terms of statistics, but

587
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 5: I think he'll find a way within himself to get

588
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 5: things going. Uh you know, going against the hometown team.

589
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want it to be this week where

590
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Speaker 2: he goes out and has one of his three sack

591
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Speaker 2: games and takes it over because he's capable.

592
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Speaker 5: Yeah, oh, he's capable of more and a lot of

593
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 5: times he can wreck it without even a lot of

594
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Speaker 5: gaudy statistics just by what he prevents you from even

595
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 5: thinking about trying to do.

596
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. Bobby just got the practice report

597
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: from today. Uh TJ. Watt did not practice today with

598
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Speaker 2: a heel injury. Pat Fryarmouth downgraded to limited today with

599
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: that hamstring. Obviously, those would be rather concerning. Not that

600
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: I don't expect Wat to play, but we thought that

601
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Speaker 2: coming out of the buy here that the Steelers have

602
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: all their offensive weapons. Now it becomes a little more

603
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: you know, on fire kind a player or not.

604
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 5: Well, you know, I don't know. And here I am

605
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 5: going against my nature by being optimistic. You know, maybe

606
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 5: the thing with Firemouth is, you know, he had a

607
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 5: full practice Wednesday, and so maybe you taper him back

608
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 5: a little bit Thursday, bring him back Friday. But it's

609
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 5: probably not that he has physically demanding Maybe Friday practice

610
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 5: there is a lot of short yardage, goal line that

611
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 5: kind of stuff. And so rather than you know, wear

612
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 5: out the hamstring and practice with three days of work,

613
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 5: you know, you kind of give him one, then back

614
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 5: him off one, and then give him another one and

615
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 5: then he doesn't do anything Saturday and then you play Sunday.

616
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Speaker 2: That would make some sense.

617
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, like I said, I'm going against but yeah,

618
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 5: the TJ. Watt in I mean, I don't, Hey, this

619
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 5: guy is gonna play with a finger that's dislocated and

620
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 5: as torn ligaments in it. You know, I don't know

621
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Speaker 5: what the heel injury is, but to me it doesn't

622
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 5: sound as serious or to potentially debilitating to me as

623
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Speaker 5: the finger for a guy that uses his hands as

624
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 5: much as t J. Watt does and has to.

625
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 4: Well, its back to Friarmuth real quick. I mean, I

626
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:23,959
Speaker 4: know the Steelers offensive pie isn't exactly a triple X

627
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 4: huge one that they can divvy it out everyone's I mean,

628
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 4: I love those questions like, why aren't they using this

629
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 4: guy more?

630
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 3: Why aren't they using this guy more?

631
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 4: Well, when you're three and out, you only get three

632
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 4: plays and you can only get the ball to so

633
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 4: many people. But still, Friar Moose's lack of usage shocks me.

634
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 4: And I know he's had some injuries, but I think

635
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 4: they need to make him more of an instrumental part

636
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 4: of the passing game starting this week.

637
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 5: Well, I don't disagree with you, and I also don't

638
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 5: know that the quarterback is to be absolved of all

639
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 5: responsibility for that situation. So you know, again, you know,

640
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 5: Kenny Pickett is he's.

641
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 7: Doing some things that are you know, helping the team win,

642
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 7: but he's not having that kind of season that, you know,

643
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 7: a statistical kind of a season that maybe we were

644
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 7: hoping for.

645
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 3: So he's those around him, that's for sure.

646
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 5: That's that's for sure. Not not necessarily, certainly not on

647
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 5: a consistent base, let's put it that way. He does.

648
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 5: You know, when you when you have two fourth quarter

649
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 5: comeback wins over the Baltimore Ravens within your first seventeen

650
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 5: career starts, you know that's that's something you can hang

651
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 5: your hat on. And you know, I don't know if

652
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 5: you guys, let me just throw this in too, because

653
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 5: this is something that I noticed. You guys watch the

654
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 5: Ravens and the Titans last Sunday. Yes, what you think

655
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 5: would you think of Elik Willis? Have you seen anyone

656
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 5: seriously as discombobulated or unaware of the situation and what

657
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 5: his position should be demanding in the situations that he

658
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 5: was in. I mean, you're gonna take three sacks inside

659
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 5: your own fifteen yard line, inside the two minute warning,

660
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 5: down by eleven, take those sacks.

661
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Speaker 4: I mean, seriously, I can't rememberf the announcer said it

662
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 4: or not, but I was certainly sitting there in my head, going,

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Speaker 4: anything's fine to sack.

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Speaker 3: There's a sack, and it's like, come on, man, you know.

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Speaker 5: I'm yelling at the TV. Throw it, you know, throw

666
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Speaker 5: it into the stands for goodness stakes, you know, first

667
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Speaker 5: and whatever was it the two yard line? It took

668
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Speaker 5: a sack. I mean, so anyway, yeah, so you know,

669
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Speaker 5: there's a learning curve for all of these people. And

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Speaker 5: you know, I think Kenny Pickett is again, he's he's

671
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Speaker 5: not what we hoped maybe at this point, but I

672
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Speaker 5: think that when you look at a lot of other

673
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Speaker 5: second year players, he's better than most of them at

674
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Speaker 5: this point.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's talk with Matt. And I've been talking all

676
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Speaker 2: week about because of the game. I watched the entire

677
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Speaker 2: game of the Ravens. I watched went back and forth

678
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Speaker 2: between the Bengals and Browns on Sunday. And nobody can

679
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 2: score right now in the NFL except for Miami. I mean,

680
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: it's scoring is down across the league. Teams are having

681
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Speaker 2: trouble scoring in the red zone, Sacks are up. As

682
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Speaker 2: Matt noted, there are more young quarterbacks starting in the

683
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Speaker 2: league right now than ever before. It's the youngest group

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Speaker 2: of quarterbacks to ever start a season. And that included

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Speaker 2: that included Aaron Rodgers and he's no longer playing. Is

686
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Speaker 2: as simple that is that that young quarterbacks are playing here?

687
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Speaker 2: Or is there something more a foot here? Do you think?

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Speaker 5: I don't know, I really don't. I'm not trying to

689
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Speaker 5: duck the question. I mean, I just don't have a

690
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Speaker 5: specific answer. I mean, certainly, when you look at you know,

691
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Speaker 5: a lot of times people get hung up on you know,

692
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Speaker 5: they think quarterbacks, young quarterbacks and the ones they think

693
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 5: of Joe Burrow, justin Herbert to.

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Speaker 3: Even Mahomes and Allen are still right on the front line,

695
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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So but I mean there's like I did this,

697
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Speaker 5: the last ten years, there's been fifty quarterbacks drafted, and

698
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Speaker 5: what I what I call with a premium pick, which

699
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Speaker 5: is the first three rounds, seven of them out of

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Speaker 5: the fifty are which you would say are legitimate franchise quarterbacks.

701
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Speaker 5: Not you know, because a lot of times people are

702
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 5: players get them the label a franchise quarterback because you know,

703
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 5: they're starters and the team doesn't have anybody else, But

704
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Speaker 5: that to me doesn't make them a franchise quarterback. There

705
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 5: are there is a level of consistent performance and production

706
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Speaker 5: that is necessary, you know, to be called a franchise quarterback.

707
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Speaker 5: For example, Love is not franchise quarterback in my opinion.

708
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Speaker 5: So that just shows you that that might be the

709
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 5: most miss scouted position by the NFL of them all.

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Speaker 3: And labs along those lines.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, but there's a generation gap in the league too,

712
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Speaker 4: where there's the Ben generation with Rivers and Eli and

713
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 4: Brady and Rogers et cetera, et cetera, and then there's

714
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Speaker 4: a generation gap, and then there's Mahomes and Allen, like

715
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Speaker 4: all those Jamis Winston and Carson Wentz and Mariota's that

716
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Speaker 4: were drafted high.

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Speaker 3: Right, there's a huge gap.

718
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Speaker 5: Like like portals and yeah, Gnzelle, you know, yeah you

719
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Speaker 5: mentioned Goff and Carson Wentz, Paxton Lynch, Mitch Trubisky, Deshaun Watson,

720
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Speaker 5: Dshaun Kaiser, I mean, Baker Mayfield, Sam Donald, Josh Rosen.

721
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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just reading some of it. I wrote

722
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Speaker 5: them all done. Ye have high first round picks and

723
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Speaker 5: so and you know, the thing is what the difference

724
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Speaker 5: is is that because of you know, the contract situation

725
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 5: and free agency and everything, the clock's kicking. I mean,

726
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Speaker 5: you can't do what the Packers did with Aaron Rodgers anymore.

727
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Speaker 5: And what they what they did with Jordan Love you know, okay,

728
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 5: they really rolled the dice in my opinion, because now,

729
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Speaker 5: what do you do with him? If you're the Packers,

730
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Speaker 5: you know, you get you get in a situation maybe

731
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Speaker 5: and it's a little bit different, but you get put

732
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Speaker 5: up against the wall like the Giants did with Daniel Jones.

733
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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I'm as soon as you to pick up

734
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Speaker 4: Kenny's fifth year option or not very soon like this

735
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 4: happens now, yes, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yes, right, and you know, and that's no cheap number,

737
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 5: the fifth year option, so you know, and there's a

738
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Speaker 5: lot of teams in this kind of situation too, So

739
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 5: you know, again, Zach Wilson, here's another one, Trey Lance.

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Speaker 2: That's how that's how Kirk Cousins ends up making like

741
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 2: three hundred million dollars in uh, you know, as an

742
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Speaker 2: average quarterback.

743
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Speaker 4: And that's like the tragedy of the Anthony Richardson injury now,

744
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 4: is they just lost a year to figure out do

745
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 4: I pick up his option or not? You know, and

746
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 4: he need all the work he.

747
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 5: Didn't, didn't he injure his shoulder.

748
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's out for the year, so you know, not

749
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Speaker 3: you go.

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Speaker 5: Well, but I mean in that injury too, it's not

751
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 5: like it's an insignificant kind of thing. So yeah, and

752
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 5: I don't know, it's you know, maybe the uh, you know,

753
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,479
Speaker 5: you do seem to have a lot of really good

754
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 5: edge rushers pass rushers uh in the league now, and

755
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 5: I think a lot of teams have decided or realized

756
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 5: or whatever that you cannot you cannot cover, you have

757
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,280
Speaker 5: to pressure you can you have to cover to some agree.

758
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 5: But if you think that you can give any of

759
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 5: these guys time, they will pick you. They will pick

760
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 5: your bones clean. I mean it just that's the way

761
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Speaker 5: that it is.

762
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Speaker 4: I say this all the time. Never can I remember

763
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Speaker 4: the discrepancy of D Linman being so much better than

764
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 4: O Liman in the league.

765
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Speaker 3: Right now?

766
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Speaker 5: Well, and you know the other thing you don't have

767
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 5: anymore on D Linman is your nose tackle has to

768
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Speaker 5: be Javon Hargrave, camp.

769
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Speaker 2: Casey Hampton, right, he better rush the past to a

770
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Speaker 2: right right.

771
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Speaker 5: You have to. You can't because the other off the

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Speaker 5: the other team. You know, if you're gonna have Brandon

773
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 5: Fojoko in there, they're not gonna run the ball. We're

774
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Speaker 5: just not. You know. Don't throw it anywhere from anywhere,

775
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 5: any situation backed up deep regardless of the time on

776
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Speaker 5: the clock. That the score bluffin doesn't matter either, uh,

777
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 5: you know, And being an old guy like I am,

778
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 5: you know I remember two thousand and two when you

779
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 5: know the Steelers They're one defense was ranked number one

780
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 5: in just about everything. They go to New England for

781
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 5: that opening game and.

782
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 2: The consecutive passes, Yes, it was.

783
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 5: A three point game too. They just and they did

784
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 5: a lot of that under regular personnel, and by that

785
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 5: I mean two running backs. They just went empty. Then

786
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 5: the next right, and then because you keep you know,

787
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 5: you end up with Jason gilden Garden, that receiver who

788
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 5: did a lot of what was the guy's name, no,

789
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 5: no play right, the real versatile guy right now. But

790
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 5: then the next week, the Raiders came in to Pittsburgh

791
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 5: and gan him through fifty two passes. Fifty two passes

792
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 5: that was unheard of that era, and you know.

793
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Speaker 2: So, yeah, and he did it on purpose, and they

794
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: won the game, and he threw fifty two passes because

795
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 2: that was the game plan, yes, and.

796
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it wasn't like they were behind early and he

797
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 5: had to throw or they even tried to run and

798
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 5: couldn't do it. They just didn't care, Well.

799
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Speaker 3: Why would we run into this wall over and over right?

800
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 3: Exactly right.

801
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Speaker 5: So I just think that defenses, now, as you mentioned, Matt,

802
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 5: there are a lot of good athletes now on defense,

803
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 5: and offensive linemen are not necessarily that athletic, and and

804
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 5: so I think defenses trying and create mismatches where they

805
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 5: can just like offenses were doing, you know, for the

806
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 5: twenty years, you know, the last twenty years, creating mismatches

807
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 5: with personnel groupings and formations and stuff of defenses to hey,

808
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 5: we can do this too. You want to go empty,

809
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 5: you better have you better have some real people inside,

810
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 5: because when we start sending three guys up his a gap,

811
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 5: you know, your your quarterback better be Harry Houdini or

812
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 5: who's be spending a lot of time on his back.

813
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 5: And you know that the boat taught me this one

814
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 5: time too. You don't have to you don't have to

815
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 5: sack him all the time. You're just gonna make him

816
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 5: think you're gonna sack him. Then he gets rid of

817
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 5: the ball quick and he's throwing it to you. You know,

818
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 5: as somebody said about was it mac Jones or somebody

819
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 5: who said he's seeing ghosts? Yes he is, so uh,

820
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 5: I just think that that's that's what's happening now. Quarterbacks

821
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 5: have I don't know, maybe a second and a half

822
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 5: to figure out what it is, where it's coming from,

823
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 5: where the coverage is going to be, and deliver the ball.

824
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 5: And some guys can do it, not a lot can

825
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 5: And what's the percentage of them being able to do it?

826
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 5: You know? If you keep if you as they say,

827
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 5: you keep a lid on it and keep keep the offense,

828
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 5: make the offense go ten twelve plays seventy five eighty

829
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Speaker 5: yards to score a touchdown over Yeah, yeah, it's just

830
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 5: gonna say. Then you've got the Zebras involved. There's going

831
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 5: to be a holding call, if you're on the road,

832
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 5: maybe there's a false start, you know, different things like

833
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 5: that one sack, you know it can derail it. And

834
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 5: so yeah, scoring points has not been as easy this

835
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 5: year as you would think it can be or should be.

836
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 5: And but you know, you still got you've still got

837
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 5: to be able to score four touchdowns in a game

838
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 5: or three and a half, you know there, you got

839
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 5: to be able to You've got to be able to

840
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 5: put more points on the board than the Steelers have

841
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 5: been able to do offensively to this point in this season.

842
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Speaker 2: That is the lord of living in his fears. Bob Labriola,

843
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: our guest here. We appreciate you stopping by.

844
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Speaker 5: Bob.

845
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next week. Maybe we'll have a

846
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: win to talk about.

847
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 5: Oh, that's okay with me. You know, we haven't live

848
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 5: to talk about last week.

849
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 2: That's true. We did we did Matt and I are

850
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Speaker 2: going to get to a break. You're listening to the

851
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Speaker 2: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with

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Speaker 2: more right after this.

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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williams and I am Dale Lollet. You're

863
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Speaker 2: listening to the Driver on Steelers Nation Radio. And uh, Matt, Bob,

864
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 2: I think gave us the way the Steelers. Maybe not

865
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 2: scoring scoring four touchdowns would be great. Sure, I don't

866
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: know that you need to score three touchoir four touchdowns

867
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Speaker 2: three and a half.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that means I forget what he said. The Rams

869
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 4: are averaging twenty three points per game. Yeah, yeah, I

870
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Speaker 4: mean the way this offense is playing at the moment,

871
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 4: four touchdowns seems like pine Sky, but.

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Speaker 2: I think, I mean, they put up twenty three points

873
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 2: against the Raiders, and the Raiders defense is very similar

874
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: statistically to this Rams defense.

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Speaker 4: Talent wise, talent wise, to do one guy guy a

876
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 4: bunch of question marks, yeah, be kind, Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 4: I think that's a reasonable goal though.

878
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 2: And I think, well, and you know, we've talked about this,

879
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: but I think, you know, they scored twenty three points

880
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 2: against the Raiders, and I thought they could have scored

881
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 2: more because they basically shut the offense down. They were

882
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: up twenty three to seven or whatever it was, you know,

883
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 2: late in the third quarter, and then they just said, Okay,

884
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: we don't need to score anymore because they're not going

885
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 2: to catch.

886
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 3: Up no one.

887
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 4: I mean, Raiders don't Matthew Stafford a Cooper coup, right,

888
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 4: and they've Adams obviously, So.

889
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: You might want to put the keep the foot on

890
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 2: the pedal a little.

891
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 5: Bit, get a lead.

892
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 3: I am not just sitting on it, that's for certain.

893
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 3: But I do think the.

894
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 4: You know, getting twenty plus three touchdowns consistent drives, getting

895
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 4: into the red zone with regularity should be expected against

896
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 4: this defense. Yeah, you know, I mean they're going to

897
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 4: try to. They want you to matriculate the ball down

898
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 4: the field, you know what I mean, And you should

899
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 4: be able to take that fresh prepared for these guys.

900
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 4: Don't turn the ball over with a balance of run

901
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 4: and pass.

902
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree. I think this is a team

903
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: that they should be able to run the ball effectively against.

904
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: And I think as a team they should be able

905
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: to throw the ball effectively against. You know, the question

906
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 2: is going to be can they put the ball in

907
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 2: the end zone. I mean early in that game last

908
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 2: week that the Cardinals were moving the ball, they settled

909
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 2: for three field goals.

910
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, they moved all little but yeah, pretty well.

911
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't until the ball Yeah, it wasn't

912
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: until the second half where things, you know, the Cardinals

913
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 2: started turning the ball over and things of that nature,

914
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: and just the wheels fell off. And you know, largely

915
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 2: it was because they didn't have their top running back.

916
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and Saint Louis or Saint Louis, Wow, the

917
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 4: Rams started to really they started control the controlled the

918
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 4: flow of things. They made them you know, they played

919
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 4: it their way really well. And yes, Donald can wreck

920
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 4: a game. He's special, special, special, But I'd like to

921
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 4: see more picket roll outs and things like that too.

922
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 4: I mean, he's going to bring a lot of interior

923
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 4: pressure to you, but the rest of the ten aren't daunting.

924
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree. I think that you know, this

925
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 2: is a game they certainly can win, and as we

926
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: began within the previous segment, they've they've had pretty good

927
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: success under Mike Tomlin coming out of the buy and

928
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: post by.

929
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think there's any that's not an accident.

930
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not two years, this isn't a new coach.

931
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 4: I mean this is a big you know, sample size there,

932
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 4: and I'm sure he has his labs mentioned. You don't

933
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 4: know when your buy is going to be. Is it

934
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 4: can be early like this, it could be late in

935
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 4: the middle whatever.

936
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:19,479
Speaker 3: You don't know.

937
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 4: That, but you do when the schedule comes out, and

938
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 4: maybe you tell yourself, I want to accomplish this much

939
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 4: before the buy or gather this much data.

940
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 3: And I'm sure he has a two.

941
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 4: Week scheduled at least a skeleton and outline that he

942
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 4: uses in It.

943
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 2: Was a little different this year, and that you know

944
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 2: previous years he would use the bye weeks to get

945
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 2: some of the younger guys who had and played a

946
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 2: lot more practice time. They only practiced once last week.

947
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 2: But I think maybe it's it's all about the self

948
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: scouting part of it. Yeah, that you have a better understanding. Okay, okay,

949
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: here's how we're going to approach this. Here's what we

950
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: need to do.

951
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 3: To play too. Yeah.

952
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 4: Right, not that they don't need reps, but it's not

953
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 4: bull season practice where you play all the all the

954
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 4: freshmen that didn't play it, you know.

955
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, get them. You know, well, I know you didn't

956
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: letter this year, but here's some here's some extra hard. Yeah.

957
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 2: So they didn't need to do that. But I think

958
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: maybe you figure you figure out how to self scout yourself.

959
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 4: That's a little bit better the experience year after year,

960
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 4: How do I best use my time? And some of

961
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 4: that is just R and R just getting away makes

962
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 4: us a better football team.

963
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 2: Well, you've streamlined the process.

964
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 4: So sure that has to be a huge challenge for

965
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 4: like a rookie head coach, Like five weeks are weird?

966
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 3: What am I going to do here?

967
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 5: You know?

968
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 4: Should I just grind it, grind it? Or should I

969
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 4: take a nap once in a while.

970
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, you go spend some time with the family. Yeah,

971
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 2: just get away from football, you know.

972
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, help work my health.

973
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: Absolutely, but we're gonna get to another break. He is

974
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lalli. We will be back

975
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: with our two of the Drive right after this