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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network.

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<v Speaker 1>By from San Francisco. I'm a sports byline broadcasting network.

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to Wrestling Observer of VIBE with your

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<v Speaker 1>hosts Brian Alvarez and Mike Semper vv Ready are you ready?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get it all? How's it going everybody? Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 1>here on or Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every

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<v Speaker 1>means we have got a lot to talk about here today,

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<v Speaker 1>the least of which is the ratings for Dynamite. We

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<v Speaker 1>got some minute by minute notes on the m j

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<v Speaker 1>F deal to w w E pay per views coming

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<v Speaker 1>up this weekend. If you're a fan of n x

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<v Speaker 1>T two point oh or at this point Raw, because

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<v Speaker 1>we have no SmackDown matches so far for Hell in

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<v Speaker 1>the Cell, I'll tell you about all of those here today.

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<v Speaker 1>The latest on Lacey Evans, which I laughed uproariously about,

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<v Speaker 1>but stuff happened in New Japan. Best of the Super

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<v Speaker 1>Junior Finals. We've got some returns. We can talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you about that today, update on Jeff Hardy and UH

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<v Speaker 1>and much much more. In the final segment of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Elvis is going to join us here today and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about the n w A a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>other stuff as well, and it's going to be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do my best. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>can hear or not, but I'm pretty congested. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>feel way better than I felt yesterday. But my uh,

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<v Speaker 1>my head is full of gunk. Been coughing a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm not at my best, but damn and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>here and ready to go. So if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>contact us four to five seven eight zero seven five

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<v Speaker 1>six six, help carry this show. Four to five seven

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<v Speaker 1>eight zero seven five six six. Brian and Wrestling Observed

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com at Brian Alvarez on a Twitter and also

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<v Speaker 1>at w Online on cameo. I got nothing to do,

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<v Speaker 1>so if you want a cameo, and that would be

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<v Speaker 1>a great time to do it. But Mike Semper viv

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<v Speaker 1>M He's gonna join us after the break and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk all of the news and UH and get into

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<v Speaker 1>all of this so stick around everybody. We're back here

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<v Speaker 1>in a couple of moments. I'm gonna take a quick

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<v Speaker 1>commercial break because I'm gonna hear that music at any

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<v Speaker 1>moment here on Wrestling Observer Live. Mkay, you were listening

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<v Speaker 1>to Wrestling Observe We Live with Brian Albarez and Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Semperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network making the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Bran Albert is here Wrestling Observer Alive. Mike samper Viv

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<v Speaker 1>also Wrestling Observer dot Com. Yes, for those of you asking,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel much better than I sound. Actually sound the

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<v Speaker 1>worst so far, but I feel the best so far.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know what to make of that. But

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<v Speaker 1>you're almost over the hump, that's what that means. I

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<v Speaker 1>sure hope. So yesterday was actually uh, I was, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a low fever, thank god, I was so

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<v Speaker 1>hot all day and I'm stuck here in this room

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<v Speaker 1>and for once in my life, like it's been nothing

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<v Speaker 1>but cold since the beginning of the year, and then

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<v Speaker 1>of course on the one day that I want to

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<v Speaker 1>open the window for some air, it's like in the seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just baking, which is why you heard frogs

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<v Speaker 1>last night. I left the window open during the The

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<v Speaker 1>Brinon VNI Show. But I'm gonna come back trail, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I Am on the comeback trail. Rally back. It's the weekend. Brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'm rolling back to two w w E

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<v Speaker 1>pay per views. Well, uh well, um, your wife will

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<v Speaker 1>be happy, you feel better. So if you can take

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<v Speaker 1>some of the pressure off the kids you know dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with that. Wednesday is Double or Nothing Fallout episode of Dynamite,

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<v Speaker 1>nine and sixty nine thousand viewers on TBS, up four

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<v Speaker 1>point three percent from last week, best audience for the

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<v Speaker 1>show since April eighteen forty nine. Dynamite finished second with

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<v Speaker 1>a point four oh, which was up fourteen point three

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<v Speaker 1>percent from last week, Dynamite's best number in the demo

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<v Speaker 1>since March three. Bunch of other notes right here, But

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<v Speaker 1>I know what everyone's asking about. You're all asking about

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<v Speaker 1>m JF. And uh First, we had the quarter hours

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday and if you guys saw the quarters we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it. I think on the Brighton Viny show, I

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<v Speaker 1>do tell these shows. But what happened was the MJF

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<v Speaker 1>promo was split over two seconds and the first two

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<v Speaker 1>thirds was in one segment and the final one third

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<v Speaker 1>and my math is correct, was in the next segment. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So the segment that contained it two thirds of his

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<v Speaker 1>interview was by far the highest rated thing on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>This segment that continue that contained the second half or

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<v Speaker 1>the second third of his promo plunged down, ended up

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<v Speaker 1>being the lowest rated thing on the show, the least viewed.

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<v Speaker 1>So two thirds was in the most viewed, one third

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<v Speaker 1>was in the least viewed. Okay. So of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Internet, and everybody has their everybody has their

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<v Speaker 1>side whether this was good or bad or whatever, so everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people were using that to prove it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>work and everything like that. So what we were waiting for,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously was the minute by minute numbers, which Brandon Thurston

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<v Speaker 1>released yesterday. We have them, and what happened, which is

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<v Speaker 1>actually what I figured would happen. The entire MGF promo

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<v Speaker 1>was the most watched thing on the show by far,

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<v Speaker 1>from beginning to end. Okay, as soon as he called it,

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Khan, whatever he called him, because for most people

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<v Speaker 1>it was bleeped as soon as they went to the

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<v Speaker 1>commercial break. That's when everybody tuned out and if you've

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<v Speaker 1>if you've ever paid any attention to the quarters, if

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<v Speaker 1>you do a segment that has two commercials in that segment,

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<v Speaker 1>which that segment did. They went to commercial, and they

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<v Speaker 1>came back and they did some stuff, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>started to match in the match went to commercial for

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<v Speaker 1>picture and picture. There were two commercial breaks during that segment.

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<v Speaker 1>You are not going to have a quarter with two

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<v Speaker 1>commercial segments that is not going to absolutely fall off

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<v Speaker 1>a cliff, which is what happened. So if you want

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<v Speaker 1>a place to blame on MGF, I'm sorry to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that his promo was the most watched thing on

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<v Speaker 1>the entire show. Now, of course people are gonna argue, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know everyone turned it to now it afterwards. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you can make whatever argument you want. The reality is,

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<v Speaker 1>we have no idea if this is gonna work or not.

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<v Speaker 1>It just happened. I mean, it doesn't matter what the

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<v Speaker 1>promo is, doesn't matter what the angle is. Nobody knows

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<v Speaker 1>how something is going to work until they do the

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<v Speaker 1>follow up and they do whatever they're going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're welcome to make all of your predictions and

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's going to be like the greatest thing ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's gonna tune in next week to find out what happened,

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<v Speaker 1>or oh they're gonna run off all these fans. People

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to watch. Whatever your theory is, we don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to find out based on the follow up starting.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean maybe a little bit with a rampage, but

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<v Speaker 1>my guess is next week on Dynamite. So those are

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers, and you can do with those what you

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<v Speaker 1>will if you want to, but I would recommend against it.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you survived the slings and arrows over the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days of being called out of touch or

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<v Speaker 1>old or a contrarian that every anybody else like that

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<v Speaker 1>promo except for you, Brian Alvarez, You're just doing this

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<v Speaker 1>on purpose? Bro? I what has every even time if

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<v Speaker 1>anyone said that they're an idiot? But I've dealt with

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of late dude, I said, like, his

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<v Speaker 1>delivery of that promo was phenomenal, It's absolutely fantastic. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna sit here and pretend like there is

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<v Speaker 1>no risk here, if you're gonna sit here and pretend

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<v Speaker 1>that him trying to cut a full heel promo and

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<v Speaker 1>getting cheered is not the promo. You can do that

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<v Speaker 1>if you want, Like, that's fine, you can do that,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's what happened, so we'll see what happens. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>his delivery was phenomenal. I never said eathing negative at

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<v Speaker 1>all about his delivery. He has probably the best delivery

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<v Speaker 1>of anybody in all of wrestling when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>cutting promos. But don't act like there's no possibility that

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<v Speaker 1>something could go wrong here, like well, virtually every other

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<v Speaker 1>time that's ever happened, it hasn't worked. But this time, man, Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>if you think it's it's not gonna be a home run,

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<v Speaker 1>you're old and out of touch. Well that's foolishness. It's

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<v Speaker 1>almost these people are foolish. So who cares? You hate fun?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. Oh man, it's almost the weekend, though, We're

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<v Speaker 1>almost done with this for now. Get social media at

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<v Speaker 1>all until you start doing your your full review in

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<v Speaker 1>time of the n x T pay per view or

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<v Speaker 1>pay per view special live premium event coming up on Peacock,

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<v Speaker 1>which I know you're excited for. Bro. I never said

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't entertaining. What is wrong with people? Honestly? What

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<v Speaker 1>is wrong with people? To grow on Observer Live yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>the first segment of the show. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>could have possibly been more fair and given like both

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<v Speaker 1>sides of this, I don't think I could have possibly

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<v Speaker 1>been more fair. But what happens is because everyone has

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<v Speaker 1>to choose sides, you only hear the details what you

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<v Speaker 1>want to irritating m and Bro. You guys are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>argue that Wardlow wasn't like overshadowed by this. It's even

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<v Speaker 1>really gonna argue that that's the only one to me,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the hilarious one to me is that the Wardlow

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<v Speaker 1>did not come out of this looking, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>way he should be that next night, and coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of this and having somebody who, look, if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>power Obama guy ten times, you're gonna kill him dead,

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna put him out on a stretcher, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he may want to sell something the next day. If

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<v Speaker 1>this was w W E, those same people would be,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, bitching and moaning and complaining that this person

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do this, and it's like it's just crazy and

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<v Speaker 1>and to make the excuse while you would would w

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<v Speaker 1>W does this is that what you want to do

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<v Speaker 1>is that what you want to be? Was it the

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<v Speaker 1>whole point of a W starting up to not do

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<v Speaker 1>what WW does and drives people nuts and actually have uh,

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<v Speaker 1>forget it. Lacey Evans is uh probably gonna debut on

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't say debut. Plans change, Brian plans change, No, no, no, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Lacy Evans is actually at SmackDown right now. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if she'll be on the show, but she's there.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, I recall she was on SmackDown and then

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<v Speaker 1>she was moved to Raw, and then she was announced

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<v Speaker 1>his debuting on Raw, and then she didn't debut on Raw,

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<v Speaker 1>and now she has been moved to SmackDown. I am

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<v Speaker 1>always the bad guy when it's so patently obvious they

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea what they're doing ever. So anyway, now

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<v Speaker 1>she's back on SmackDown, and uh, you know, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what they do. I'm not even but even

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<v Speaker 1>bother speculating. I mean, maybe she'll be a heel, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>she'll be a baby face. At this point, who cares.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I got really mad one day, but like

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great thing about having a show like this

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<v Speaker 1>is I can get really mad about something and then

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't care anymore. It's actually great. Get it

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<v Speaker 1>all out of your system and then that's that. So

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<v Speaker 1>she'll be on SmackDown. Probably is the heel because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>why not, why not listen lit waste five weeks of

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely incredible videos to just have her be a heel. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was reading more about the MGF and

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<v Speaker 1>the cee him Punk thing, and uh as amazing. You

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<v Speaker 1>know how many people said, Briant, There's just no way

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<v Speaker 1>that pipe bomb was supposed to be a heel promo.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the next show was in Chicago. It's like, guys, hello,

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<v Speaker 1>wake up. You think, oh my god, have we not

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<v Speaker 1>had decades of history that oh my god? But there's hey,

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<v Speaker 1>look big recent c bias here. You know, it's like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>w c W did this, but they never had any

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<v Speaker 1>good times, they never had anything successful happen, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>well they kind of did. C Am Punk. Ce Am

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<v Speaker 1>Punk said it was designed to be a hell promo.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to the announcers after it happened. Is there trying

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<v Speaker 1>to bury see him Punk and ask why the fans

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<v Speaker 1>are booing him? I mean are cheering him. It's Golee

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<v Speaker 1>helped me back him was something other than that Observer

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<v Speaker 1>Live in the pump time. You were listening to Wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>Observer Live with Brian Albarez and Mike semperviv on the

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Byline Broadcasting Network. I cannot believe sometimes all these

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<v Speaker 1>years and people haven't learned. Don't harass me about what

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about, or I'm not gonna do it. Leave

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<v Speaker 1>me alone, especially when I'm sick. Now, with that said,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to mention something about the best of the

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<v Speaker 1>super Juniors, Okay, and I mean listen. To be fair,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't watch any of it. I pulled an m JF.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching No New Japan, which, by the way, my

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<v Speaker 1>the impression I've been given is that wasn't a heel line.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy hates New Japan. But anyway, he really has taking

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<v Speaker 1>all cornuts material, so that may as well get more

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<v Speaker 1>heat while I'm at it. Go ahead, do it, bro

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<v Speaker 1>Haromo won again. Even even Jingo here, who's like a

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<v Speaker 1>huge Japanese pro wrestling mark, even he got it wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not Romo's third time winning the Best of

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<v Speaker 1>the super Juniors, It's his fourth time since the best

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<v Speaker 1>super junior in the world. I love Harom Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>love Haro, MO, I love Okada, I love Nighto, I

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<v Speaker 1>love rattle off the list of guys. And granted, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we're in the middle of a pandemic. Yes, it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to get people in and out of Japan until just

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<v Speaker 1>very recently. But Bro is the same thing when they

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<v Speaker 1>had that big stadium show and it's like, what are

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<v Speaker 1>we gonna do for the i W g P title? Okada, Nighto? Bro?

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<v Speaker 1>How many times can I see that match? How many

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<v Speaker 1>times can Haroma win the Best of the super Juniors? Like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>there were some talented dudes in that Best of the

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<v Speaker 1>Super Juniors, and I just feel like it's the same

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<v Speaker 1>stuff over and over and over and over and over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again. Now hopefully, hopefully this is all about

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<v Speaker 1>to swing wildly because now no more quarantine, like we

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<v Speaker 1>can get people from a w We can get people

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<v Speaker 1>like j White is no longer do an impact. He's

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna be back full time doing New Japan. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're gonna get a lot of new names

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<v Speaker 1>and faces and etcetera in there, But Bro, I need

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<v Speaker 1>something different, Dude. I mean, you know, I have brought

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<v Speaker 1>up Gheto's booking for quite some time, and we've been

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<v Speaker 1>into it over that and I thought there was a

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<v Speaker 1>way and by the way, one thing real quick. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not only it's not only the fourth time that Haromo

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<v Speaker 1>has won the Best of the super Juniors, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was the same damn final that we had two years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>My voice box is falling out. Look fourth. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>these folks that are some of the guys that are

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<v Speaker 1>coming my voice suck before they're they're just maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>band aid though on some of the things that we

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<v Speaker 1>have been driven nuts about. We'll get some new faces in,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get some familiar faces we haven't seen in some time.

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<v Speaker 1>But some of the booking, a lot of the booking

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<v Speaker 1>that has gone on with Gaetto has not been good.

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<v Speaker 1>Too much reliance on the Bullet Club, which now we

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<v Speaker 1>see another member added to the Bullet Club. Ace Austin

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<v Speaker 1>has now got to be a Bullet Club member because

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<v Speaker 1>you need to have a zillion of them. So I

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<v Speaker 1>do have concern again, much like the m JF CM

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<v Speaker 1>punk deal within that promote by m JF I'm willing

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<v Speaker 1>to give it some room to breathe, but when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to New Japan, I'm only going to give it

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<v Speaker 1>so much room to breathe here before they try to

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<v Speaker 1>turn around and make something something happened here because the

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<v Speaker 1>house of torture bullet club stuff is way, way, way

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<v Speaker 1>too much. And I know they have wanted for quite

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<v Speaker 1>some time. Horoma, who has talked about for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be the new Japan I w g

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<v Speaker 1>P Junior heavyweight champion and main event one of the

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<v Speaker 1>Dome shows. I hope this is the year because he

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<v Speaker 1>has got to get out of that division, become a heavyweight,

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<v Speaker 1>just get out of there altogether. There's nothing else to accomplish.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you watch that tournament, and I know you didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>when you see the names that are there, the new

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<v Speaker 1>names that have come in, like your Wheeler Utos and

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<v Speaker 1>like guys like that, guys who have been there like

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<v Speaker 1>l Phantasmo who has been fantastic, and the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>I would argue the best junior heavyweight in the world

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<v Speaker 1>is El Desperado. I mean you have enough guys there

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<v Speaker 1>tight Taiji, Issuemory and El Desperado can on their backs

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<v Speaker 1>completely run that side of the junior heavyweights. With the

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<v Speaker 1>new names coming in and other people getting built up

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<v Speaker 1>Horomo doesn't need it. So I hope this is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be it. I'm willing to go to January fourth or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, the six, whatever, the third day is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be and and be all right with it.

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<v Speaker 1>But like he has got to get out of that division,

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<v Speaker 1>do something in the heavyweight division because somebody's gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to replace Nato at some point too, because he's being

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<v Speaker 1>held together by tape right now. And I always, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm constantly waiting for Haromu to not take his spot

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<v Speaker 1>but to kind of slide into it more and we

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<v Speaker 1>see a little less Nato and I. We'll have to

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<v Speaker 1>see how it goes. But you know, New Japan's booking

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<v Speaker 1>just because new guys are coming in. We've talked about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and guys coming back does not automatically make

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<v Speaker 1>things better. The booking has been atrocious for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of returns of the show, Kenta is back.

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<v Speaker 1>J White kind of promo for the semifinal announced Kent's return. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he says, I know we're a little shorthanded today. The

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<v Speaker 1>machine Gun Carl Anderson couldn't make it. He's out with

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<v Speaker 1>COVID Juice. Robinson couldn't make it either. He's out with

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<v Speaker 1>um Hell, what did he have? I forget Juice Robinson, Yes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do have one surprise, and it was Kent.

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<v Speaker 1>He has not been around since January five, when he

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<v Speaker 1>suffered a dislocated left hip, a broken nose, tending to

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<v Speaker 1>damage to his finger, and severe lacerations to his back

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<v Speaker 1>in that ladder match with Tana Hashi, which I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's why he's not gonna be a tournament for

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<v Speaker 1>survival this week. Anybody do not know that was coming,

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<v Speaker 1>not that he was gonna get that hurt, but well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on now, you can't look there have

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<v Speaker 1>been guys who have done a lot bigger stunts and

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<v Speaker 1>gone through a lot more stuff and actually not been hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but the whole point going in was why

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<v Speaker 1>are these two great wrestlers being put in this garbage match?

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<v Speaker 1>Damn near killed poor Kenta. And then also we had

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<v Speaker 1>the return of Sonata, who is recovering from a fractured

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<v Speaker 1>orbital bone suffered in the New Japan Cup in a

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<v Speaker 1>match with will Osprey, So he is back as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks fantastic in a suit, doesn't he. We need

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<v Speaker 1>some we need some names. Brother, what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>about some folks coming back the times you've seen him?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I always disagree with Adam Summers on this on

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Audio Nightmare, which you can find it FW

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<v Speaker 1>online dot com. I think Sonata has always been missing something.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at me, you think this is the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Adama argues this, Well, he's a he is a

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<v Speaker 1>Sonata supporter, so too. But I mean it's patently obvious

0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:23.040
<v Speaker 1>he's missing something. He's missing something, and it's there the

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<v Speaker 1>connection and the crowd loves him, but there's a connection

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<v Speaker 1>issue somewhere there. And you look at him and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like he you know, im w g P heavyweight champion,

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<v Speaker 1>a contender for sure, he can work his ass off.

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<v Speaker 1>You see the matches with him and Zach Saber Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>He's very very good. He just needs something and that's

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<v Speaker 1>another thing. Hopefully the booking can whatever that thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>he needs it now because now that he's been out,

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<v Speaker 1>he's coming back going after the US title. This is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of do or die for him as far as

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<v Speaker 1>him ever being a serious, really being a serious threat

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<v Speaker 1>to actually win and hold onto the I B g

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<v Speaker 1>P title. My issue with Sonatas and storyline, He's an idiot.

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<v Speaker 1>How many times this guy almost had to win with

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<v Speaker 1>his Dragon Sleeper and he lets go Ofvid to go

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<v Speaker 1>miss a moon salt? How many times I've seen that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, brother, stop trying to move salt. I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were a big fan of Mudo, you all

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<v Speaker 1>lost one and you let go of it and then

0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:19.680
<v Speaker 1>you missed the moon salt, you dummy. Like fifty times

0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I've seen that spot. He needs a manager like me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, he can do the work and I can,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hack my way through a promo. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it would be really clever to offer cameos while

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<v Speaker 1>I was quarantined. Oh that's right. How's that worked out

0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:44.080
<v Speaker 1>for you? You should see these cameos I'm doing. Golly,

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<v Speaker 1>is there a mania for cameos? There should be, It's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty bad. Matt Hardy explained his brother Jeff was pulled

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<v Speaker 1>from Dynamite this week. Matt hard He said in the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast Jeff was almost knocked out very early on in

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<v Speaker 1>the Hearty's match against the Young Bucks. This resulted in

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff being pulled from Dynamite. Matt said, Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 1>happy with the match, especially considering very early on in

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<v Speaker 1>the match, Jeff was almost knocked out, so he got

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<v Speaker 1>hurt pretty bad. That's why he was being pulled from

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<v Speaker 1>the match. In l A. He was kind of running

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<v Speaker 1>on fumes going through the match, so he still held

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<v Speaker 1>up his end of the bargain pretty good in the

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<v Speaker 1>grand scheme of things. So listen, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people are upset about the idea that this guy got

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<v Speaker 1>a concussion early on and they kept doing the match.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't like that at all. I I do, however,

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<v Speaker 1>often give talent the benefit of the doubt in the

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<v Speaker 1>sense that they didn't necessarily know that that that that happened. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't talked to anybody in the match, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if they knew or not. But like, let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you something about Young Bucks matches. And actually

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was Aj Styles on our on our

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<v Speaker 1>show many years ago. I'll never forget this. I was

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<v Speaker 1>at King of the Indies in two thousand and one

0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:54.720
<v Speaker 1>and Aj Styles was going to have a match in

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<v Speaker 1>the tournament and Bro, this guy got in the ring

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<v Speaker 1>and he was in there for like four hours. Going

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<v Speaker 1>were spots with whoever he was resting that night. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, dude, just hour after hour after hour after

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<v Speaker 1>hour of practicing and going over these moves, and then

0:23:10.840 --> 0:23:13.680
<v Speaker 1>you know later he you know, decade later, fifteen years later,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes to New Japan and he's doing mess with

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<v Speaker 1>the Bucks and uh, and he explained, he goes, Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>they want to do so many things. I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>any of that, so I just sit there and tell

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<v Speaker 1>me what to do in the match. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Hardy is not used to doing those sorts of matches.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's possible because I heard that Jeff was banged

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<v Speaker 1>up going in Okay, which I'm sure he was if

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<v Speaker 1>you saw some of his matches he's at and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's possible that they didn't realize at the

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<v Speaker 1>time that that was the issue. They just figured, like,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy can't remember anything, we got to tell him

0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:50.280
<v Speaker 1>what to do. There's eight million spots in this match.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I don't know, but I like to

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<v Speaker 1>think that they didn't realize he was concussed immediately and

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<v Speaker 1>then decided to go fourteen minutes. I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do like to think that that didn't happen. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>who's supposed to be making that call. You know, I'm

0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:08.440
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, now, well it should be the referee. Well,

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:11.440
<v Speaker 1>and then there should be whoever notices. Well, that's it's

0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:14.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, is there a spotter there? It's it's it's

0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:18.880
<v Speaker 1>tough because you get a situation like Hikuleo a couple

0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 1>of nights ago, where he dives out of the ring

0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:23.240
<v Speaker 1>and he you know, d d t s himself on

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<v Speaker 1>the floor and then he's jumping right back up and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, did did he suffer concussion? And

0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 1>then you know, again there's different grades of concussions. You know,

0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:34.480
<v Speaker 1>guys athletes get their bell wrong all the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>now we know they're like little mini concussions. But you know,

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 1>when you're still when you're in athletics, now you get

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:42.159
<v Speaker 1>your bell wrong, you can still go, you still go,

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<v Speaker 1>but you never know. Sad back in a moment of

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<v Speaker 1>Nick aldis joining us here today. N w A Always

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<v Speaker 1>Ready is coming to uh to the Knoxville Convention Center. Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>how you doing today? I'm good, Brian. It's been a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. How are you it? Has you brought some

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<v Speaker 1>class to this show? Well? You know allegedly now obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the very first question is obviously the the situation with UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess your main event really, Uh, Matt Cardona suffered

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<v Speaker 1>a torn biceps over the weekend, and uh, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>status of the match? What do you know? UM? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know a whole lot. I've got a cool actually, um,

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<v Speaker 1>And about an hour or so, so right after I

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<v Speaker 1>get off this call with you guys, UM, I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready for that, and I guess that's where I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get I'll get kind of the four one one UM.

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<v Speaker 1>So unfortunately, your timing is not great. If I had

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<v Speaker 1>we scheduled this for a couple of hours later, I

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<v Speaker 1>might have been able to lend you a bit more insight.

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<v Speaker 1>But UM, you know, it is what it is. I

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<v Speaker 1>when I heard that he'd torn his bicep, um my

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<v Speaker 1>initial right away, I said, I bet it was catching

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<v Speaker 1>a dive, And sure enough, that's exactly what was because

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<v Speaker 1>that's how I tore my bicep in Mexico in in

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<v Speaker 1>um same thing. So it's you know, that's it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the sort of it's one of the new risks,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I guess in sort of modern wrestling is

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<v Speaker 1>like that's that's quite a common injury, is is the

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<v Speaker 1>torn by sep from catching a dive or torn pack

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<v Speaker 1>from catching a dive, because you know, they're commonplace. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately that was the case. So I will, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see. I guess we'll see what we're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>But the good thing is is at least it you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it's unfortunate, um for for Matt in one respect,

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<v Speaker 1>it does at least create some intrigue because as we've

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<v Speaker 1>as we've seen very much this last weekend from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with the MJF stuff and stuff like that. Sometimes h

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<v Speaker 1>people being unsure of you know, what's real and what's

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<v Speaker 1>not is can sometimes be quite good for creating intrigue.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I've talked to a lot of people about

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<v Speaker 1>dives because dives are big and wrestling nowadays, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get your thoughts because you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just catching the dive that we've seen issues with.

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 1>But you know, there there are a lot of dives

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<v Speaker 1>nowadays that are very hard to catch. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>you hear the term catch and uh, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to call out Sammy Gavar or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but man, he did like a twisting phoenix splash six

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<v Speaker 1>thirty off the top of a ladder and he crashed

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<v Speaker 1>and burned, and like, you know, everyone that was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to catch him, like it was like a seven ten split.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just watched and I thought, well, what was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to happen? Like, how in the world could you

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<v Speaker 1>possibly catch that without getting killed? And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to sound like the old man yelling at cloud,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean there is something to the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I feel like a dive has to be

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<v Speaker 1>capable of being caught otherwise it's just dangerous, oh for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, you know, for me, it was always It's

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<v Speaker 1>always been something that I've prided myself on, Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it is always making sure I was there. And I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for me, I sort of cut my teeth

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<v Speaker 1>doing that in ten A, you know, because it was

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<v Speaker 1>uh ten A was in many ways was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>was where a lot of that stuff was was becoming

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 1>more commonplace, right, Like, you know, we had all the

0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>exhibion guys and stuff like that, and I was especially

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.480
<v Speaker 1>when Doug and I were in the tag team a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the time, you know, we would find ourselves

0:28:57.000 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>in matches where a dive was coming. Um. So for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I've my my technique has always been to to sort

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<v Speaker 1>of get under the you know, look for the hips,

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<v Speaker 1>like get under the hips and kind of if because

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<v Speaker 1>it's the sort of senter point of the body and

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a it's a pivot point of movement.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you can kind of make yourself big and

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<v Speaker 1>get under the hips and then sort of be ready

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<v Speaker 1>to u you know, almost be like a shock absorber like, um,

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 1>you know that that's that's it's not just about being there,

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 1>it's also about kind of, ah using the right technique

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to sort of take it. And look,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I still feel weird even today, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of dissecting the fourth walls stuff like this. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know that it's people are interested

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<v Speaker 1>in this kind of stuff. So for me, it's always

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<v Speaker 1>been a case of, um, take the take the majority

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<v Speaker 1>of the force try to sort of push some of

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<v Speaker 1>it back the other way because because then it helps

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 1>it helps you go down, it helps them stay up,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, helps sort of share the share the impact.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, but I know you're right, some of these

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:06.959
<v Speaker 1>new ones, they're they're tricky because if there's a lot

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 1>of rotations and a lot of twists and stuff like that,

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's hard to time it. But for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always been sort of looked for the hips and

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<v Speaker 1>get underneath it. So you've been doing this now, uh

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<v Speaker 1>what twenty years, nineteen years, eighteen? I guess seventeen or

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen years. I started training with the nights. When no, seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>I sort of went full time eighteen now, So so

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<v Speaker 1>what because you mentioned you know, still kind of feeling

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<v Speaker 1>weird talking about the inner workings of wrestling. I mean obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>you know a lot has changed in the last nineteen years,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, what, what do you you feel

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<v Speaker 1>about that? Because fans are very interesting in it. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, I mean, you know, it is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of fun to not you know, if you've got

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<v Speaker 1>like some great storyline going on, it's sort of fun

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:07.239
<v Speaker 1>to not kind of explain what's actually going on. You know,

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't really know how to explain it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>felt that way myself, Like, you know, fans want to

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<v Speaker 1>know what's happening, and uh, but at the same time,

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 1>it's like part of the fun is not knowing. Yeah,

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 1>it's you said that fans want to know and that

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<v Speaker 1>and that pretty much is the beginning and end of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that. It's just you know, look, it's a business.

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<v Speaker 1>It's supply and demand. Um, there is such a there

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<v Speaker 1>is there is such a hunger for for the information,

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<v Speaker 1>even if to your point, it may actually in some

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<v Speaker 1>in some cases, in my opinion, sort of take away

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<v Speaker 1>from the enjoyment of it, or take away from the

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<v Speaker 1>take away from the magic of it, maybe take away

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<v Speaker 1>from the excitement a little bit. Uh. I think that,

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<v Speaker 1>And I can't speak for the industry obviously, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think that overall, what I've noticed is that I think

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<v Speaker 1>the industry overall sort of took this mentality of well,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to talk about it anyway, and someone's going

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<v Speaker 1>to break it, someone's gonna stooge, someone's going to leak.

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<v Speaker 1>So the businesses as a whole has been a bit

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<v Speaker 1>more open because they've realized that one way or another,

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<v Speaker 1>the information is going to find its way into people

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 1>who want to consume it anyway. So like it's a

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 1>it's a double edged sword. I think that again, referring

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<v Speaker 1>back to you know, what we've seen this past week

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<v Speaker 1>and a bit um, I think it's I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>witnessing maybe a new and a new age, like a

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<v Speaker 1>new and what I mean by that is, ah, this

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<v Speaker 1>might become the new way to sort of to book angles,

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 1>is to is to sort of lean into that and

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>use it to your advantage. It's certainly something that I've

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>tried to do. It's certainly something that Cody and I

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:59.240
<v Speaker 1>tried to do in our angle was we we were

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<v Speaker 1>very open to the idea of letting people sort of

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 1>interpret things however they wanted to, uh, and and and

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 1>then just sort of going, oh, if that's that's what

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 1>you think, okay, well I guess we'll see you know,

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 1>because there were so many there were so many real

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 1>elements that created a situation where people who are a

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 1>little more in the know than the average fan, we're

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<v Speaker 1>sort of going, well, wait a minute, but Cody is

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<v Speaker 1>not Cody is not under contract. There he's under contract

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 1>ring of honor, and you know, but do you really

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<v Speaker 1>see them doing that? And like, but at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's Cody kind of booked this event, so

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<v Speaker 1>is he going to really you know, it's so we

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<v Speaker 1>just we just it once we knew that we had

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<v Speaker 1>the intrigue. That's the hardest part of booking an angle

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 1>is can you get the people to a point where

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<v Speaker 1>they want to see the outcome but they don't know

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 1>what the outcome is going to be? Those are the

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<v Speaker 1>two things. Because you know, I've worked for a few

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<v Speaker 1>different bookers, right and I'm sure that you can guess

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>who I'm probably referring to it, but you know, I

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 1>worked I worked for one book for a while where

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the time stuff was changed just for

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the sake of because no one was expecting it, right Like,

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:14.400
<v Speaker 1>and I was told, well, that's too predictable, you know,

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>and I'll be like, okay, but just because somebody just

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:22.319
<v Speaker 1>because the fans don't see this coming, doesn't necessarily mean

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 1>that that's what they want to see, right Like, you know,

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 1>You've got to sort of find that happy medium, because

0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:29.840
<v Speaker 1>sometimes giving the people what they want is what a

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:33.319
<v Speaker 1>promoter is supposed to be a right like sometimes you know,

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:36.960
<v Speaker 1>sometimes throwing a curve ball. Sometimes sort of keeping the

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 1>people on their toes and doing something surprising is the

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:44.719
<v Speaker 1>right thing to do. But we I think sometimes I

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 1>think the business overall, I think the industry gets in

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 1>its own way sometimes trying so hard two do something

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>different that they forget the fact that, you know, some

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 1>people just like burgers and fries. Man. You know, some

0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:58.759
<v Speaker 1>people just want a really good burger and fries and

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 1>they want to you know, want it heart and fresh,

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 1>and they want it served the way they like it. Uh.

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:09.320
<v Speaker 1>And I think that finding the happy medium of creating

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 1>a situation where people are intrigued about the outcome, um,

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:19.360
<v Speaker 1>but still maintaining an emotional investment in the parties involved.

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I think you get you know, you could have to

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 1>use whatever you have at your disposal to get there.

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 1>And if that means leaning on some things that may

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:31.320
<v Speaker 1>or may not be really happening, um, you know, or

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:34.800
<v Speaker 1>things that involve the the commercial aspect of the business,

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:36.719
<v Speaker 1>the personal side of the business that you know, the

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:39.839
<v Speaker 1>contractual stuff and things like that, then I think if

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:41.279
<v Speaker 1>you if you know, you just got to do it

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 1>and stay healthy but I will say this, I think that, yeah,

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:50.359
<v Speaker 1>when you do that stuff, it's in many ways from

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 1>a booking point of view, it's very similar to like

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 1>the first time someone dives off a balcony, right, well,

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:58.879
<v Speaker 1>the first time someone goes through a flaming table or something.

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:02.520
<v Speaker 1>It's like, what are the next time? You know? And

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.839
<v Speaker 1>now the angles that don't have all those elements in them?

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Are they going to be as interesting and intriguing? So

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, you gotta you're gotta be very careful and

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 1>very you've got to use them very sparingly, in my opinion,

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:15.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, as far as to do a follow up

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 1>their swerves. I mean that is like one of those

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 1>big things where people just you know, they love to

0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 1>book swerves. And I've always felt that like you can

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 1>you can do a swerve as long as the outcome

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:30.920
<v Speaker 1>is something where fans think, I didn't see that coming,

0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:33.799
<v Speaker 1>but that makes sense as opposed to I didn't see

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 1>that coming, but what why did they do that? So

0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 1>it can be done, but it takes like some some foresight,

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:41.879
<v Speaker 1>and it takes you know, leading everyone down one path,

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 1>going another way and then bringing them back to that path.

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 1>So like, why didn't I see that coming. That makes

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:48.920
<v Speaker 1>perfect sense. That to me is a good swerve. Not

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna lead everybody in one direction and in the

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 1>very end we're gonna do something nonsensical. And then the fans,

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, they don't feel like they've been outsmarted. What

0:36:57.600 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 1>they actually feel is like these people are incompetent well,

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 1>or or when they feel like, okay, you guys used

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:10.319
<v Speaker 1>creative license and you just made you know, like that's

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 1>it's and again, yeah, it's because you are you know, um,

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:19.399
<v Speaker 1>you're still a promoter, right even even if you even

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 1>if you look at the business as a lot of

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 1>people do now that oh it's a television based business,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like television is most important. If that if

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<v Speaker 1>that's your bread and butter, then yeah, sure it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think I still believe that you have to

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<v Speaker 1>approach it overall from the mentality of a promoter, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>like you have to promise something and deliver it and

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<v Speaker 1>if it's when you it's when you don't deliver something. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I don't think I'm I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 1>alone in this opinion, but you know, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>main reason Tenna's pay per views did not do well

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<v Speaker 1>most of the time is because most of the time

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<v Speaker 1>they felt like a long episode of the show, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that, because there were too many times where people went, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's my money, like now give me the payoff. People

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<v Speaker 1>will throw these terms around right in wrestling, like they

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like that, and but it's so it's so

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<v Speaker 1>funny because a lot of time they've sort of forgotten

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<v Speaker 1>what they mean, right, Like the payoff that's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it does exactly what it says on the tin. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what that's what it's supposed to be. You're supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>tee it up, tee it up, tee it up with

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<v Speaker 1>the with the free television, and then pay it off,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And if you don't pay it off, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to lose the trust of the audience. And once

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<v Speaker 1>you lose trust of the audience, your toast. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>show is coming up on Juni leventh, Knoxville Convention Center, Knoxville, Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>The scheduled main event uh Mett Cardona Nick Eldis, but

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<v Speaker 1>has known in a few hours, we know what's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>So stand by back in the all with more Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 1>You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 1>and Mike semper Viv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network

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<v Speaker 1>Bag In the show, Bright Albert is here Wrestling Observer,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike simper Viv also Wrestling Observer dot com. Nick aldis

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<v Speaker 1>joining us here today and we didn't talk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but Legacy SUPs dot com. I'm at the tail end

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<v Speaker 1>that for sure, and maybe some recovery PM to make

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<v Speaker 1>what can you tell us about this very quickly? Oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's um, it's just it's it started as a

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<v Speaker 1>side hustle, and it's very very quickly coming was the

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<v Speaker 1>primary hustle we have. We've had some great success and

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<v Speaker 1>growth and we're we launched at the very end of

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<v Speaker 1>really seriously launched in one We've had great feedback, We've

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<v Speaker 1>we've had thousands of customers and We're now on Walmart

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<v Speaker 1>Online and we've had we've had incredible feedback from our

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<v Speaker 1>our customers are return customer rate is really impressive, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we appreciate all of the wrestling fans because we

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<v Speaker 1>know that a lot of our initial customer base is

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<v Speaker 1>made up of wrestling fans, because we advertised through some

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<v Speaker 1>of our pals through like Conrad and Conan and different

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<v Speaker 1>guys like that. So we we deeply appreciate it, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're continuing to grow in scale. So please give us

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<v Speaker 1>a try. We really appreciate it, and I stand by

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<v Speaker 1>I use all the stuff myself. I wouldn't advertisee something

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<v Speaker 1>can check that out. And don't forget a Always Ready

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<v Speaker 1>is coming up June eleventh the Knoxville Convention Center, Knoxville, Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll find out what's going on soon. Matt Carlo and

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<v Speaker 1>Nick al all this, Camille Kyl and King Jack Stain,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Adonis for the National Heavyweight Tunnel. There's a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of matches and uh, I want to wish you the

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<v Speaker 1>best of luck with everything. I hope everything works out

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<v Speaker 1>with you and Cardona obviously and hopefully we can have

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<v Speaker 1>you on again soon. Absolutely happy to thanks Brian, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>so much, and of course thanks everybody for listening. We're

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<v Speaker 1>out of time. We'll talk to you next time Wrestling

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