WEBVTT - #722 Packers Unscripted: Prepping vs. Patriots

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spoffer, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my partner in crime, Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to

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<v Speaker 1>you here from different locations at lambeau Field and Wes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday we saw the first of two joint practices with

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<v Speaker 1>the New England Patriots. The second one will take place

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<v Speaker 1>shortly after we get done recording this episode, and then

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<v Speaker 1>there will be the preseason game, obviously on Saturday night

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<v Speaker 1>at lambeau Field. So I'll just throw it out to

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<v Speaker 1>you right off the jump here. What were your initial

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<v Speaker 1>impressions of the joint workout on Nichki Field on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually gonna hide on Wednesday. On Wednesday, I'm getting

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<v Speaker 2>them all next up to myself.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know what day of the week it is

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<v Speaker 1>around here.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny. I have to tell this story quick. So

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<v Speaker 3>we're coming up here to shoot the show this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>And I got into the elevator with Katie Hermson, our

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful manager of public affairs, and she says to me,

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<v Speaker 2>she goes, Wes, where are you going?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Where can I get you them? Like five?

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<v Speaker 2>She's like what's on five. I'm like me, for the

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<v Speaker 2>last four months, me has been on five, and here

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<v Speaker 2>we are once again. She also mentioned or I was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to say goodbye to her, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>have a terrific and then completely blanked on what day

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<v Speaker 2>it was as well. So we're off to a great

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<v Speaker 2>rip roar and start here this morning, Michael. But to

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<v Speaker 2>your point too, of these practices, to everything associated with that,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest with you, Mike, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>you felt about it. We can probably talk discuss it

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<v Speaker 2>in this platform. But that was to me one of

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<v Speaker 2>the better, maybe the best joint practice I've seen the

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<v Speaker 2>Packers conduct. I felt like in every phase for two

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<v Speaker 2>hours and twenty seven minutes, there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>great work that was being done. I really enjoyed watching

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Belichick's team practice because one of the things I

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<v Speaker 2>think gets taken for granted. Everybody's like, Okay, well, you

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<v Speaker 2>know you gotta do all this new age stuff. You

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<v Speaker 2>gotta you know, have these, you know, incredible jugs, machines

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<v Speaker 2>that can show you how Case Keenum throws a football.

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<v Speaker 3>You can do all these different things. Watching the first.

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<v Speaker 2>Team period when I was down with the defense going

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<v Speaker 2>against the number one offense for the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 3>The Patriots just run.

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<v Speaker 2>The ball over and over and over again, and eventually

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<v Speaker 2>they start passing too. But so much of it is

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<v Speaker 2>old school football fundamentals, and it kind of reminds me

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of the way Rich Basacia coaches on

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<v Speaker 2>special teams, where it's like you got to get the

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<v Speaker 2>operation down before you get into the execution. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>what was one of my biggest takeaways from this. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if I can separate myself from the practice for a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>as I wrote for one of our stories on Packers

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<v Speaker 2>dot com, the historical significance of this is probably the

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<v Speaker 2>thing that hits home the most for me. The fact

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<v Speaker 2>that you have Bill Belichick at seventy one years old,

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<v Speaker 2>a surefire first ballot Hall of Famer whenever that day comes,

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<v Speaker 2>probably at some point here gonna become the winningest coach

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<v Speaker 2>NFL history, lead his New England Patriots to Green Bay

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<v Speaker 2>for the first time for two joint practices, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Green Bay Packers and them want to respect and admiration

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<v Speaker 2>on this side of things. From Matt Forstaff, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>that was super cool too. There felt like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more connectivity in that joint practice than I think any

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<v Speaker 2>of these other ones we've experienced over the last four years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's certainly a lot of mutual respect going both directions.

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<v Speaker 1>For obviously the history and tradition and everything that is

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<v Speaker 1>associated with Lambelefield and the Packers in Green Bay. And

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<v Speaker 1>then on the other side, what Bill Belichick and the

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots have accomplished over the last you know, twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five years, it's been pretty pretty remarkable. And these

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<v Speaker 1>teams will they squared off last season last year in

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<v Speaker 1>the regular season, and you know, Belichick has always made

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<v Speaker 1>those comments whenever he walks into Lambelefield. He's a head

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<v Speaker 1>coach with as much appreciation for the history of this

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<v Speaker 1>game as anyone. And as much as he doesn't like

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<v Speaker 1>to do press conferences and answer questions from the media,

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<v Speaker 1>you start asking him about history and he will talk

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<v Speaker 1>and talk and talk. He absolutely loves it, and.

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<v Speaker 2>He smiles like that was the first thing I thought

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<v Speaker 2>was really cool when he kind of cracked a smile

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<v Speaker 2>the first time he was asked about it was Dennis

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<v Speaker 2>Crowsey that I believe asked him. And obviously Belichick's been

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<v Speaker 2>around a long time forty nine consecutive years as a

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<v Speaker 2>coach and NFL record in some capacity coaching in the league.

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<v Speaker 3>And he kind of smiled when he's like.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's still cool, you know, especially with these these

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<v Speaker 2>joint practices. And what I love about Belichick too, is

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many guys. And he's talked about the Packers

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<v Speaker 2>several times over the years, but including last year leading

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<v Speaker 2>up to the game at Lambeau. But they'll be like, Okay, Lombardi, Lambeau, Hudson, No, man,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy's talking about Clark Kinkle, he's talking about cecil Isabel,

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<v Speaker 2>He's talking about some of the greats in this team's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, illustrious history, but maybe not the everyday names

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot of fans know about, especially from the

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<v Speaker 2>twenties and thirties and forties, the Cliff Crystal expertise sort

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<v Speaker 2>of era. He has a great appreciation for it, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think for that fact it's a surprise that

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<v Speaker 2>he's been as successful as he's.

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<v Speaker 3>Been for so long.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, whatever, it was nineteen consecutive winning seasons

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<v Speaker 2>and everything that the Patriots have accomplished in Matt Lafleur,

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<v Speaker 2>speaking before practice on Wednesday mentioned too, He's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we originally pursued them with the idea of doing these

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<v Speaker 2>joint practices, and really goes back to just having a

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<v Speaker 2>deep respect and admiration for what Belichick has done. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you see a guy who's been this successful for

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<v Speaker 2>this long and then obviously the way that the Patriots

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<v Speaker 2>conduct their business, you want to be able to tap

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<v Speaker 2>into that a little bit. And on Belichick's side of things,

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<v Speaker 2>the ultimate competitor, he said, yeah, NFC, we don't see

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<v Speaker 2>these guys very often. It's an uncommon opponent. There's really

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to be gained or lost from that work against

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<v Speaker 2>the Packers, so why don't we go for it. This

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<v Speaker 2>is becoming more and more prevalent right now in the NFL. Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you look any given day on Twitter, it

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<v Speaker 2>seems like it's the Panthers and the Jets, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>the Texans and the Dolphins, and more and more of

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<v Speaker 2>these teams are doing it, and obviously there's a reason

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<v Speaker 2>for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is becoming the way of the NFL preseason

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<v Speaker 1>and getting to the practice itself. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>eleven on eleven work and just to give fans an

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<v Speaker 1>idea of how this works. If you weren't in Green Bay,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not able to attend a joint practice, you

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<v Speaker 1>have Nichkie Field all the way along the backside of

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<v Speaker 1>the Dona Hudson Center. And when they go to eleven

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<v Speaker 1>on eleven, at one end of the field is the

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots offense against the Packers defense. At the other end

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<v Speaker 1>of the field is the Packers offense against the Patriots defense.

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<v Speaker 1>So from our perspective, from a coverage side of things,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to divide and conquer. So, as you said

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<v Speaker 1>you were down watching the Packers defense, I was on

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<v Speaker 1>the other end of the field watching the Packers offense,

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<v Speaker 1>and a couple of things really stood out to me.

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<v Speaker 1>One Bill Belichick really decided to challenge Jordan Love and

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers with his defensive scheme. He was bringing blitzes,

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<v Speaker 1>he was just guising things, he was changing things up.

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<v Speaker 1>He was challenging the Packers' running backs in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>their blitz pick up and just everything with regards to

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<v Speaker 1>the protection scheme. And in the early going the first

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<v Speaker 1>couple of sequences of eleven on eleven with Jordan Love

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<v Speaker 1>at quarterback, there were a lot of checkdowns Love wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>finding anything open. They were trying to figure out things

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<v Speaker 1>with the protection. He was just taking what was there

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<v Speaker 1>the outlet. The outlet receiver usually a running back. But

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<v Speaker 1>then the Packers started to get their legs under them

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit offensively, and when they moved into the

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<v Speaker 1>red zone work I thought Jordan Love really started to

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<v Speaker 1>cut it loose. He hit a really nice pass to

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<v Speaker 1>Luke Musgrave kind of over the top on a seam

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<v Speaker 1>route for a touchdown. Then he hit Romeo Dobbs over

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<v Speaker 1>by the pylon, the front pylon for a touchdown. Dobbs

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<v Speaker 1>made a really really good catch against some pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>coverage and got his feet in. The officials there's actually

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<v Speaker 1>a true NFL officiating crew that is here and they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be doing the game on Saturday night in lambeau Field.

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<v Speaker 1>The officials had to talk about it for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're right over in front of all of the

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<v Speaker 1>fans that are there at Nichki Field trying to convince them. No,

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<v Speaker 1>he had his feet and it was a touchdown. They

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it and they gave Romeo Dobbs the touchdown,

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<v Speaker 1>So that got a pretty good ovation. He also hit

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<v Speaker 1>a nice pass in the back of the end zone

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<v Speaker 1>to Jaden Reid. That would have been a touchdown except

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<v Speaker 1>the New England defender made a really nice play and

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<v Speaker 1>actually was able to shove Reid out of bounds as

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<v Speaker 1>he went up in the air to make the catch,

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<v Speaker 1>and he got shoved out of bounds before he could

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<v Speaker 1>get his feet back down. But I thought, for as

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<v Speaker 1>much as Belichick's defense was challenging the Packers, giving them

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<v Speaker 1>some really good work with the pass protection and the

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<v Speaker 1>blitz pickup, I thought when they got in the red zone,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Jordan Love and the offense started to click

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll be honest with you, Mike, he watched that

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<v Speaker 2>touchdown pass he had to Dobbs. I mean the stunts

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<v Speaker 2>in the corner blitz, the slot blitz they were throwing

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<v Speaker 2>at him. There was a lot for the offensive line

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<v Speaker 2>and Love to be able to count for on that,

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<v Speaker 2>making sure that all the bodies and hats are covered for.

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<v Speaker 2>What I like the most also is how Love built

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<v Speaker 2>all of that up until the final two minute drill. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the Packers were unable to get the forty yard field goal.

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<v Speaker 2>Anders Carlson, you missed it from what the referees said

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<v Speaker 2>down there, I didn't get a good look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>But the fact is is that Love had three completions

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<v Speaker 2>the Dobbs on that series. I believe it was two

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<v Speaker 2>others to Watson. He really got humming that second half

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<v Speaker 2>of the practice, and I thought that really showed up

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<v Speaker 2>as far as the Packers' defense was concerned. A very

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<v Speaker 2>interesting day for them because, as it turns out, Devondre

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<v Speaker 2>Campbell has an ankle injury misses practice, so that meant

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<v Speaker 2>that Kway Walker had to become the mic going up

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<v Speaker 2>against the Patriots offense. Now, Walker's done plenty of it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been in that role before. The Packers have purposely

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<v Speaker 2>kept him in, usually an extra series in the preseason,

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure that he gets those reps. DeAndre missed

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<v Speaker 2>four games last year. Walker handled a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But suddenly he's in the charge of the defense, working

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<v Speaker 2>alongside Isaiah McDuffie. But one positive for Green Bay was

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<v Speaker 2>they got jyr Alexander back for some of those team

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<v Speaker 2>periods and the first playof I talked about this on

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<v Speaker 2>three things. He's lining up at left cornerback. They try

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<v Speaker 2>to throw a pass an out route to Kendrick Bourne

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<v Speaker 2>and Jaieir is just sticky glue all over them, just

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<v Speaker 2>breaks that pass up in completion. Later on, they try

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<v Speaker 2>to test him in the end zone coming across on

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<v Speaker 2>kind of an over route, and it looked like the receiver,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have my notes in front of me, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't remember who it was, but it looked like the

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<v Speaker 2>receiver had it.

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<v Speaker 3>Jaiere battles and battles in battles.

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<v Speaker 2>And as the receivers going to the ground drops the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>and the referees again, as you were talking about with earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>some of the things that the Dobs play, the referees

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<v Speaker 2>discussed it, and all the ball came out and packers

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<v Speaker 2>defenders going nuts, and Jaiere's just being Jaiere because that's

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<v Speaker 2>who he is. And I just felt like, defensively, this

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<v Speaker 2>is such an important time right now for Green Bay

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<v Speaker 2>because they're learning about who they are and what direction

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be headed. And Rasull Douglass had a

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<v Speaker 2>good day, although he lamented not being able to pick

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<v Speaker 2>off mac Jones in the final two minute drive that

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<v Speaker 2>would have ended that series.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Rasul Dougla gets upset every time, that's the way,

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<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't intercept it. I mean, every ball that

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<v Speaker 1>has thrown in his direction, he thinks it's his, He

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<v Speaker 1>thinks it should be a pick and he yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>he gets he gets pretty fired up if he can't

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<v Speaker 1>snag the iront No.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's cool though, because you look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>You have Kenny clark Is out right now at the

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<v Speaker 2>back injury. You have Devondra Campbell out right now with

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<v Speaker 2>the ankle, at all these levels of the defense. The

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<v Speaker 2>Packers are working through some stuff right now, but they

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<v Speaker 2>still have young guys that are stepping up, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's going to lead into these preseason games. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's going to lead into, you know, trying to

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<v Speaker 2>build that identity going into the season. The one thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I think is going to be very different than

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<v Speaker 2>past years. And again I don't think there's a right

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<v Speaker 2>or wrong approach to how they've handled the preseason, but

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<v Speaker 2>these are a lot of young guys that do need

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<v Speaker 2>the work and certainly they're getting it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And a couple other things to point out too.

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<v Speaker 1>I Mean when I talk about, you know, the challenges

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<v Speaker 1>with the pass protection and the blitz pick up, these

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<v Speaker 1>are the kinds of things you don't usually get in

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<v Speaker 1>a preseason game because teams don't want to put yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all of those you know, different looks, exotic looks and

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<v Speaker 1>different changeups that they throw at offenses. They don't like

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<v Speaker 1>to put that on film for all of their opponents,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to look at and prepare for for the season.

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<v Speaker 1>So you get that in a joint practice that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily get in a preseason game. I should say too,

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<v Speaker 1>And you mentioned that Jordan Love kind of got things

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<v Speaker 1>going in the two minute drill, had a good series there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think also what helped set him up for that was,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess what we would call the play of the

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<v Speaker 1>day offensively, he was able to connect on a deep

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<v Speaker 1>ball with Christian Watson for really what would have been

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<v Speaker 1>a seventy five yard touchdown, and Love talked about it afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a route concept that they've they've worked on it,

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<v Speaker 1>They've tried to hit it multiple times here during training

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<v Speaker 1>camp so far, and they've never been able to connect

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<v Speaker 1>on the deep shot. Either the deep shot goes incomplete

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<v Speaker 1>or Love has to take the shorter throat to Romeo

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<v Speaker 1>Dobbs because he's the other receiver in the two man

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<v Speaker 1>concept with Watson. Well, this time, you know, fired at

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<v Speaker 1>downfield and it was right on target for Watson in

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<v Speaker 1>stride behind a couple of defenders and he would have

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<v Speaker 1>taken off and scored from there seventy five yards away.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was that was pretty cool to see and

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<v Speaker 1>got quite the ovation from the fans at in Itchgie

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<v Speaker 1>Field very quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to throw in here too, I was talking when

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking about Russell Douglas after locker room afters

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it was Pete Doherty that asked him about

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<v Speaker 2>that play.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, you know, how did you think your quarterback did?

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<v Speaker 2>And you know he hasn't had a lot of those

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<v Speaker 2>moments you know, during you know, practices so far or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>However Pete worded, I don't want to put words as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But Rasseulle's answer to was, well, that was because he

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<v Speaker 2>was going against us. I mean, yeah, he's from doing great.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's the type of play that we expect

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<v Speaker 2>him to make. But Brazil's side of things is like, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't want to make in the plays against us,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, he's fully capable of doing it against other defenses.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, for sure. One other note too, with

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<v Speaker 1>regard to the Packers defense, is the search for a

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<v Speaker 1>starting safety continues, because, as we talked about, it was

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<v Speaker 1>Rudy Ford for a while, then it was Jonathan Owens

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<v Speaker 1>through Family Night and the first season game. Now to

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<v Speaker 1>various more free agents signing from back in the spring.

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<v Speaker 1>Originally I believe a third round draft pick of the

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco forty nine ers a hand full of years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>He's now running with the ones alongside Darnell Savage at safety.

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<v Speaker 1>So so just something to keep an eye on as

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<v Speaker 1>these last couple of preseason games wrap up and the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers get down to roster cutdown time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and if you ask for Soul Douglas, he's the

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<v Speaker 2>starting safety too in this defense. So we'll have to

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<v Speaker 2>keep an eye on that now. I'm just kidding. No, Hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>they've run through this where they've been given all these

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<v Speaker 2>guys opportunities.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it looks like Tarvarius Moore is the next guy

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<v Speaker 2>up in that rotation. Dude had a lot of speed.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you talked to him back in the spring.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that was his calling card early on before

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it was the achilles injury. Trying to remember

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<v Speaker 2>it was it acla ending injury.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was for more, it was an achilles

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a kiss. Go it was an achilles.

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<v Speaker 2>My brain and memory isn't completely yet, No, But I

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<v Speaker 2>mean guy had a lot of speed and he came

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<v Speaker 2>back last year, didn't get a ton of opportunities defensively.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean the guy that's still always been where

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<v Speaker 2>he's trending with this thing. He's a third round pick

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<v Speaker 2>that feels like he can compete for a job at

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<v Speaker 2>that spot.

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<v Speaker 3>Him Jonathan Owen's Rudy Ford.

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<v Speaker 2>Early in camp, they've kind of gone through this where

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<v Speaker 2>they've given almost all these guys like a week or

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<v Speaker 2>so to work back there. Daln Levitt's still available in

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<v Speaker 2>his gains is injured right now. But you know, Anthony Johnson,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, has made a lot of big improvements here

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<v Speaker 2>the last few weeks. It'll be very interesting to see

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<v Speaker 2>what he could potentially provide in the last two preseason games.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt lafore complimented what he's done on special teams. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see it maybe translate a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more to the defensive side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>It's dude, you wrote it or I wrote it. You

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<v Speaker 3>edited it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is as wide open as any position battle on

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<v Speaker 2>the roster because the separation between what could be a

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<v Speaker 2>starting safety and potentially not even being on this roster.

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<v Speaker 2>It's tight because you're not gonna be able to keep

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<v Speaker 2>everybody and only two guys are going to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to start. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely Well, I want to take a look ahead to

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<v Speaker 1>fifty years of better. All right, Wes preseason Game number

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<v Speaker 1>two Saturday night at lambeau Field. As far as I'm concerned,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I always look for when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to the second preseason game. I look at the guys

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<v Speaker 1>who were the standouts, particularly young players who were the

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<v Speaker 1>standouts in the first preseason game, and you ask the

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<v Speaker 1>question can they do it again? Can they keep it going?

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's not to say Ken Emmanuel Wilson run for

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<v Speaker 1>an eighty yard touchdown again, that's probably not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But can he do what he did the six carries

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and eleven yards, two to touchdowns. Can he

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<v Speaker 1>build on that? Can he continue to show progress? Can

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Clifford as the number two quarterback? Can he also

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<v Speaker 1>show progress? Maybe protect the football a little bit better,

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<v Speaker 1>but without losing that that aggressiveness and attack mentality that

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<v Speaker 1>allowed him to be so productive. And we talked about Carrington.

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<v Speaker 1>Valentine Malie Heath is another one, the undrafted rookie receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>He made a great catch in the two minute drive

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<v Speaker 1>from Clifford against the Patriots in the first joint practice

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday. Caught it right by the front pilon of

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<v Speaker 1>the end zone. He thought he had a touchdown as

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<v Speaker 1>he was crashing to the ground. They actually ruled him

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<v Speaker 1>down kind of inside the one yard line. Would have

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<v Speaker 1>been one of those that goes to replay. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet the pylon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought it was a touchdown. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you would have fumbled a turnover though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, story for another day. Yeah, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>something that would have gone to replay regardless. There was

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<v Speaker 1>no dispute that he caught the ball, beautiful catch and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a great catch on a nice throw from

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Clifford against some pretty tight coverage. So Ken maleiek Heath,

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<v Speaker 1>who's an undrafted rookie for Ole Miss, you know, fighting

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<v Speaker 1>for a roster spot in this receiving corps. Can he

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<v Speaker 1>build on what he's done and then show something under

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<v Speaker 1>the lights at lamb befill Those are the kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>things that we'll be watching for in this second preseason game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and for me, I think one of my biggest

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<v Speaker 2>keys to this thing and what I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 2>keeping an eye on is these guys that are playing

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<v Speaker 2>to trying to play catch up right now. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>when you look at Jake Hansen, was out for a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks with the elbow injury. Well now he's back,

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<v Speaker 2>He's running as the number two center again. The Packers

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<v Speaker 2>are looking for guys to step up in that interior

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line. Could Jake Hanson be a potential solution for them?

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<v Speaker 2>Grant Dubo's you mentioned you know a guy like Millie

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<v Speaker 2>Keith who's been balling out. Well, here's Grant coming back

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<v Speaker 2>after missing months with that back injury. Well, he's making

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<v Speaker 2>plays in practice. Now he's trying to make a bid

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<v Speaker 2>for a roster spot after missing so much time. I

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<v Speaker 2>actually think I've been really surprised at how well he's

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<v Speaker 2>looked after really never having an NFL practice before until

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<v Speaker 2>training camp.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's remarkable.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't even a part, wasn't even participating in the

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<v Speaker 2>rookie mini camp, right and here he is now, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to make a run like that. It stinks that

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<v Speaker 2>Bo Melton went down with the hamstring injury. You hope

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<v Speaker 2>that's not too serious for him and he can get

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<v Speaker 2>back here before the end of camp, because I thought

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<v Speaker 2>he was putting together some good snaps. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>questions I asked, going back to what evidently is just

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the Rusull Douglas show, was asking sewell

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<v Speaker 2>about all these young guys who have stepped up. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about Carrington Valentine, but you know what has

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<v Speaker 2>that done to bring out more out of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Schamar John Charles and William Hooper, who had three pass

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<v Speaker 2>deflections last week after Corey Ballentine went out. These young

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<v Speaker 2>guys I think have really taken that push in that

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<v Speaker 2>that little jolt of hey, if this guy's raising his

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<v Speaker 2>level of his game, I have to do likewise in

0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:48.440
<v Speaker 2>this pursuit of a fifty three man roster spot. We

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<v Speaker 2>are two weeks away from having to worry about an

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<v Speaker 2>active roster right now, Mike. But I am telling you,

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<v Speaker 2>in my time covering this team, there's been some years

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<v Speaker 2>where it's been pretty okay getting down to sixty fifty

0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:02.320
<v Speaker 2>three players. There are so many guys on both sides

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<v Speaker 2>of the ball, and on Rich Pasaccia's special teams where

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, man, where do you cut the fat here?

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<v Speaker 2>There's been a lot of young guys who have stepped up,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's probably the thing I'm looking to see.

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<v Speaker 3>What separates these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Who makes a play on special teams, who makes the

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<v Speaker 2>big catch, Who is the next Emmanuel Wilson that bus

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<v Speaker 2>free for an eightyr touchdown? All those answers are coming

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely. And when it comes to those roster decisions,

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<v Speaker 1>the personnel department, they look at the entire package, right,

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<v Speaker 1>They look at all of the work that's done in practices,

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<v Speaker 1>they look at the work that's done in the preseason games.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not about just flashing here and there. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>the entire body of work and what you've been able

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<v Speaker 1>to show, and then those difficult decisions are made. But,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, a couple weeks away until we get

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<v Speaker 1>to that point, still two more preseason games, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of snaps for a lot of young players

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<v Speaker 1>to show what they've got.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm a date our show a little bit because

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<v Speaker 2>we haven't talked to Matt Lafleur yet, but very interested

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<v Speaker 2>to see too the number one offense.

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<v Speaker 3>What does it look like? Who plays?

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<v Speaker 2>Does Jordan Love get a chance to get some snaps

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<v Speaker 2>inside Lambefield?

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<v Speaker 3>We don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I doubt they're actually going to say that outright, But

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<v Speaker 2>the fact of the matter is is that I thought

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<v Speaker 2>that was really beneficial work last week two series. They

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<v Speaker 2>didn't overdo it. They gave them a chance to run

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<v Speaker 2>that offense down the field. I have to imagine that

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Love came out of that feeling pretty good in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you try to extend that now into Green Bay?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And we'll just have to see what they decide

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<v Speaker 1>in that regard, but with that we will call it

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<v Speaker 1>a rap on this edition of Packers' Own Script. You'd

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<v Speaker 1>be sure to follow all of our coverage of the

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<v Speaker 1>team training camp, joint practice is the preseason game coming

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<v Speaker 1>up on Saturday night at Lambeufield. We will have it

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<v Speaker 1>all for you on packers dot com for Wes, I

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<v Speaker 1>am Mike. Thank you for tuning in everybody. We will

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<v Speaker 1>see you next time.