Speaker 1: Breaking news. Now here's Sean Hannity.
Speaker 2: All right, here we go as we start the show today.
Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us. Let me give you
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Speaker 2: eight hundred and ninety four one Seawn. All right. So
Speaker 2: the battle over the motion to vacate pushed forward by
Speaker 2: Matt Gates that now has had a number of preliminary
Speaker 2: votes and the House now debating in the lead up
Speaker 2: to a vote on whether to alice Speaker McCarthy. My
Speaker 2: sources are telling me it's just too close to call
Speaker 2: whether or not that's going to happen or not. What's
Speaker 2: been interesting to watch in the lead up to this
Speaker 2: is McCarthy did not have to hold this vote today.
Speaker 2: He could have talked to Democrats and cut a deal
Speaker 2: with them. He said that's not an option for me,
Speaker 2: and he's just letting it go. And right now there's
Speaker 2: a lot of angst and anger among the majority of
Speaker 2: Republicans against Matt Gates for doing this. Matt Gates just
Speaker 2: got up to speak.
Speaker 3: Let's play this, gentlemen from Oklahoma's time is reserved, gentlemen from.
Speaker 4: Florida, Mister speaker, my friend from Oklahoma says that my
Speaker 4: colleagues and I who don't support Kevin McCarthy would plunge
Speaker 4: the House and the country into chaos. Chaos is Speaker McCarthy.
Speaker 4: Chaos is somebody who we cannot trust with their word.
Speaker 4: The one thing that the White House, House Democrats and
Speaker 4: many of us on the conservative side of the Republican
Speaker 4: Caucus would argue is that the thing we have in common,
Speaker 4: Kevin McCarthy said something to all of us at one
Speaker 4: point or another that he didn't really mean and never
Speaker 4: intended to live up to. I don't think voting against
Speaker 4: Kevin McCarthy is chaos. I think thirty three trillion in
Speaker 4: debt is chaos. I think that facing a two point
Speaker 4: two trillion dollar annual deficit is chaos. I think that
Speaker 4: not passing single subject spending bills is chaos. I think
Speaker 4: the fact that we have been governed in this country
Speaker 4: since the mid nineties by continuing Resolution and Omnibus is chaos.
Speaker 4: And the way to liberate ourselves from that is a
Speaker 4: series of reforms to this body that I would hope
Speaker 4: would outlast Speaker McCarthy's time here, would outlast my time here,
Speaker 4: and would outlast either of our majorities, reforms that I
Speaker 4: have heard some of the most conservative members of this
Speaker 4: body fight for, and some of the reforms that we've
Speaker 4: been battling for that I've even heard those in the
Speaker 4: Democrat Caucus say would be worthy and helpful to the House,
Speaker 4: like open amendments, like understanding what the budget is. We
Speaker 4: have been out of compliance with budget laws for most.
Speaker 1: Of my life, most of many of your lives.
Speaker 4: And by the way, if we did those things, if
Speaker 4: we had single subject bills, if we had an understanding
Speaker 4: on the top line, if we had open amendments, if
Speaker 4: we had trust and honesty and understanding, there would be
Speaker 4: times when my conservative colleagues and I would lose. It
Speaker 4: might be a few times when we'd win. There'd be
Speaker 4: times that we would form partnerships that might otherwise not
Speaker 4: be really predictable in the American body politic, But the
Speaker 4: American people would see us legislating these last few days.
Speaker 4: We've suspended the momentum that we had established the week earlier,
Speaker 4: where we were bringing bills to the floor, voting on them,
Speaker 4: staying late at night, working hard. That's what the American
Speaker 4: people expect. It's something Speaker McCarthy hasn't delivered, and that's
Speaker 4: why I've moved to vacate the chair.
Speaker 3: I reserve Gentleman Seimer's reserve.
Speaker 2: Genlefro All right, let me let me know when we
Speaker 2: have Jim Jordan queued up as a matter right, we
Speaker 2: have it now. He just spoke a second ago. Let's
Speaker 2: go right to that.
Speaker 3: Hio is recognized for three minutes.
Speaker 1: I thank the gentleman for yielding.
Speaker 5: On January third, we said the one hundred and eighteenth
Speaker 5: Congress is about three things. Pass the bills that need pass,
Speaker 5: do the oversight work that needs to be done, and
Speaker 5: stop the inevitable omnibus that comes from the United States
Speaker 5: Senate right before the holidays. Kevin McCarthy has been rock
Speaker 5: solid on all three. We have passed the bills we
Speaker 5: told the American people we would pass. Eighty seven thousand
Speaker 5: iras agents. That bill passed, parents Bill of Rights, that
Speaker 5: bill passed, Energy legislation, passed, Border security, immigration enforcement legislation,
Speaker 5: the strongest bill ever to pass the Congress passed earlier
Speaker 5: this year.
Speaker 1: We have done what we told them we were going
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 5: We can't help, but the Senate won't take up those
Speaker 5: good common sense bills. They'll have to answer to the
Speaker 5: American people come election day. Oversight. We have done the
Speaker 5: oversight that we're supposed to do. Because of our oversight,
Speaker 5: we know that parents were targeted by the Department of Justice.
Speaker 5: Because of our oversight, we know that fifty one former
Speaker 5: Intel officials misled the country weeks before the most important
Speaker 5: election we have.
Speaker 1: And because of our oversight, the.
Speaker 5: Disinformation Governance Board at the Department of Homeland Security is gone.
Speaker 5: Because of our oversight, the memo attacking pro life Catholics
Speaker 5: has been rescinded because.
Speaker 1: Of our oversight.
Speaker 5: Unannounced visits to Americans home by the Internal Revenue Service
Speaker 5: has stopped. That happened under Speaker McCarthy. And on the
Speaker 5: third one, on this side of that, we know there's
Speaker 5: a big, old, ugly bill coming at the end of
Speaker 5: the year, all kinds of spending, all kinds of garbage
Speaker 5: in it.
Speaker 1: We're still in that fight.
Speaker 5: Frankly, to Matt's point, we don't know how that one's
Speaker 5: going to shake out, but we do know this.
Speaker 1: We do know this.
Speaker 5: On Saturday, we didn't take the Senate's bill they tried
Speaker 5: to send over and shove it down. Our throats on side.
Speaker 5: We didn't take that bill, and it was a tough
Speaker 5: position he was in.
Speaker 1: There were five options on the table last week.
Speaker 5: Option one was send a long term cr over there
Speaker 5: that would have leverage the one percent cut, something a
Speaker 5: bunch of us voted for.
Speaker 1: Both parties couldn't get the votes for that.
Speaker 5: When second option was to focus on d one issue,
Speaker 5: the country now is completely focused on the border issue.
Speaker 5: We couldn't get the votes for that one either. But
Speaker 5: when the Senate tried to send us that bill, he
Speaker 5: said no to it. I think the Speaker has kept
Speaker 5: his word. My colleagues and friends are saying different. I
Speaker 5: think he has kept his word on those three things
Speaker 5: that we talked about on January third, Franklin that entire week.
Speaker 1: He has kept his word. I think we should keep
Speaker 1: him as speaker. I yeel back, all right.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of things that are going on here.
Speaker 2: So I'm literally texting with members right now that are
Speaker 2: on the House floor as we speak. And Chip Roy
Speaker 2: who'll be with us at the top of the next hour,
Speaker 2: and Byron Donald's will be with us at the top
Speaker 2: of the next hour. He just wrote, I said, how's
Speaker 2: this end? He writes, it's going to be close. It
Speaker 2: is going to be close, and you know, it's it's
Speaker 2: hard to say. I just don't know. Now that a
Speaker 2: lot of people say, well, what happens if that happens.
Speaker 2: I guess it's something we need to look at at
Speaker 2: this moment. But after these last ditch efforts anyway, Republicans
Speaker 2: now went forward with the idea. It's probably fifty to
Speaker 2: fifty maybe more of a likelihood McCarthy will be removed
Speaker 2: according to some people with the dye ynamics, some people
Speaker 2: speaking only on the condition of anonymity, So I'm not
Speaker 2: sure I would vote those people. As in the push
Speaker 2: McCarthy out category, a majority of Republicans avowed to renominate
Speaker 2: McCarthy to the position, not allow the House to adjourn
Speaker 2: until he retakes the speakership, many pointing out that there's
Speaker 2: a united front within the GOP conference to prevent anyone
Speaker 2: else from winning the speakership bub McCarthy, Though, they realize
Speaker 2: that if the anti McCarthy Republicans never flipp they're going
Speaker 2: to have to rely on Democrats to determine the speaker. Democrats.
Speaker 2: You know what if I was then might sit back
Speaker 2: and I enjoy the Adam Shift show, and I wouldn't
Speaker 2: lift a finger to help anybody. And that's what I
Speaker 2: would advise Republicans to do. At the time, McCarthy himself,
Speaker 2: this is under House rules, was required to turn over
Speaker 2: to the House Clerk. What is a list of members
Speaker 2: that could temporarily serve as Speaker of the House if
Speaker 2: in fact he is ousted from power or if the
Speaker 2: office becomes vacant. The list is secret. The power would
Speaker 2: allow a lawmaker of McCarthy's choosing to temporarily exercise the
Speaker 2: powers of the speakership. The rules do require that the
Speaker 2: Speaker pro temp must be a current member of the House.
Speaker 2: By the way, you don't have to even be an
Speaker 2: elected member of Congress to be speaker. The speaker's ship
Speaker 2: is more than just one of the most powerful posts
Speaker 2: in Congress. The House Speaker is also the second in
Speaker 2: line to the presidency after the vice presidency. Congressional rules
Speaker 2: expert did point out that this temporary speaker could theoretically
Speaker 2: remain in power. The Speaker pro tem could stay in
Speaker 2: the chair. It's just one of the many possibilities that
Speaker 2: could unfold here. The name that I've heard most often
Speaker 2: although he just got up and spoke in favor of
Speaker 2: Speaker McCarthy was what's his name, congressman now ms, what's
Speaker 2: his name? He's from Minnesota, Emmers from Minnesota. Anyway, So
Speaker 2: right now this is going to be close according to
Speaker 2: the people. Here's what the votes that we're looking at,
Speaker 2: you know, Crane, Rosenberg, Biggs, Gates, Good and Burshett Hard No,
Speaker 2: unclear about Buck Mills and a few others. So it's
Speaker 2: going to be a close vote today. Bad the guests,
Speaker 2: maybe they get they out oust them by one at
Speaker 2: this moment. One of the things that's frustrating to me,
Speaker 2: and and I know Speaker of Gingrich is furious about this.
Speaker 2: He actually on Tuesday call for House Republicans to expel
Speaker 2: Matt Gates. Look, I don't think tip for tat is
Speaker 2: the answer to this either, and the idea that Republicans
Speaker 2: would turn on another Republican and try and use an
Speaker 2: ethics violation that probably had its own political motivations behind
Speaker 2: it is the answer either. What's frustrating is, on the
Speaker 2: one hand, Gates starts out with the proposition that is
Speaker 2: dead on accurate. There was promised to do a appropriations
Speaker 2: bills they didn't get them all done on time, and
Speaker 2: they shouldn't have taken the August recess as far as
Speaker 2: I'm concerned. But you know, frankly, the more time these
Speaker 2: people are out of Washington, I think the better of
Speaker 2: most of us are. But the twelve Appropriations Bill, you know,
Speaker 2: the beauty if there's any good to take out of
Speaker 2: the forty five day Extension CR, which was the worst
Speaker 2: CR of the three that were brought up, the beauty
Speaker 2: is they can get all twelve appropriations done and complete
Speaker 2: and therein satisfy what people that have been anti McCarthy
Speaker 2: have been saying that they want. You know, I've been
Speaker 2: listening to some of these guys and they've been even
Speaker 2: critical of Jordan and James Comer, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: that's really not warranted considering all that they've been able
Speaker 2: to discover and expose under very difficult circumstances, because nobody
Speaker 2: in the Biden White House has been cooperative in any way, shape,
Speaker 2: mannor form u. But ging Rich is even saying that
Speaker 2: the Republicans could expel Gates. That's not an option either.
Speaker 2: They don't have the margins to do it. One of
Speaker 2: the reasons we're in this position is because the margin
Speaker 2: of the Republican majority is that small. But I will
Speaker 2: tell you at the end of the day, if they
Speaker 2: are seen as a party you know that can't get
Speaker 2: their act together, that's not going to end well for
Speaker 2: them or for anybody. Uh and certainly not heading into
Speaker 2: an election year where all of them are up for reelection.
Speaker 2: So anyway, the what what's what's going to be interesting
Speaker 2: to watch here is if whether in fact the Republicans,
Speaker 2: you know, what what they do here first and foremost.
Speaker 2: But what's frustrating to me is there were two opportunities,
Speaker 2: two for the Republicans to really get their act together
Speaker 2: and and get it and have a continuing resolution that
Speaker 2: meant something. And this is what Chip Roy and Byron
Speaker 2: Donald's and they'll join us again at the top of
Speaker 2: the next hour, were very successful and putting together and
Speaker 2: threading a needle and doing a great job. The first
Speaker 2: one was an eight percent cut in spending across the
Speaker 2: board with three exceptions, Defense, Homeland Security, and veterans. Eight
Speaker 2: percent cut for thirty days to give time to finish
Speaker 2: the appropriations process. To me was a good deal. It
Speaker 2: was you know, the Gates flank that decided they didn't
Speaker 2: want to go along with that. I thought that was
Speaker 2: a good deal. And by the way that they were
Speaker 2: all Freedom Caucus guys, Scott Perry, Byron Donald's, Chip Roy,
Speaker 2: these are solid, solid conservatives. The second one, they actually
Speaker 2: were going to cut a whopping, you know, thirty percent
Speaker 2: in spending, I mean, which is a massive amount of money.
Speaker 2: I have the exact specifications here on what it is
Speaker 2: that they put forward, and I thought it worked. One,
Speaker 2: it would increase spending for the Department of Defense plus
Speaker 2: twenty eight billion dollars in line with the debt deal.
Speaker 2: It would include funding for veterans and increase that two
Speaker 2: point five billion, and the Department of Homeland Security. But
Speaker 2: it also would have combined with HR two. HR two
Speaker 2: is the Republican Bill, which would be the giant step
Speaker 2: that would end Biden's open borders policies. And the two
Speaker 2: main goals that Republicans should be having as a result
Speaker 2: of this opportunity, where they would otherwise have leverage if
Speaker 2: they stuck together, is to fight for demand and not
Speaker 2: back down on the issue of fiscal responsibility, drastic cuts,
Speaker 2: getting rid of this previous financial deal that was made.
Speaker 2: This omnibus deal that was made with Schumer and McConnell
Speaker 2: back in December and change that upfront. That would be
Speaker 2: the number one goal. The second goal's got to be
Speaker 2: to close our borders, and if they would pull that off,
Speaker 2: they'd be doing the country a great service and fulfilling
Speaker 2: their own campaign promises. Well, we'll see anyway, the debate
Speaker 2: is under not sure how long that will last. We'll
Speaker 2: follow it all throughout the afternoon, full complete coverage of
Speaker 2: all of this. We've got updates on what's going on.
Speaker 2: What do you hear with this judge in this Trump
Speaker 2: case actually had to say in a speech at Queensboro
Speaker 2: College just a few years ago. Let me tell you
Speaker 2: the frustrating part from my point of view as I
Speaker 2: watch all of this is and Donald Trump summed it
Speaker 2: up well in a truth Social posting this morning. Why
Speaker 2: is the Republicans are always fighting among themselves? Why aren't
Speaker 2: they fighting the radical love Democrats that are destroying the country,
Speaker 2: he writes on truth Social. And it came during a
Speaker 2: break during his fraud trial, which, by the way, we
Speaker 2: have new news to break on that front today, which
Speaker 2: we will do. And the reality is, when you have
Speaker 2: a four vote margin that is so tiny. And I've
Speaker 2: been saying this over and over again that and I've
Speaker 2: said this privately to many of these people that have disagreements,
Speaker 2: get behind closed doors, throw your phones, you know, in
Speaker 2: the garbage somewhere outside, and get together and hammer out agreements.
Speaker 2: Because at the end of the day, it's not Republican
Speaker 2: policies that are hurting the country. What's hurting the country
Speaker 2: is what the democratic radical climate alarmist religious cult is
Speaker 2: doing to the country. And with a four vote majority,
Speaker 2: sometimes three, based on circumstances, you don't have any margins
Speaker 2: to play with here, Hannity, Last Big Government.
Speaker 6: This is the Sean Hannity Show, all.
Speaker 2: Right, twenty five down to the top of the hour,
Speaker 2: toll free. Our number is eight hundred nine point one. Sean.
Speaker 2: If you want to be a part of the program,
Speaker 2: you know, I understand the frustration of some people because
Speaker 2: they want to get back to what Congress ought to
Speaker 2: be doing. There is a very valid argument to this
Speaker 2: that we need to have an appropriations process as a
Speaker 2: matter of course, and that is funding twelve separate bills.
Speaker 2: So far, they have dealt with four of the twelve.
Speaker 2: They haven't gotten the twelve complete. Now, the beauty of
Speaker 2: what Chip Roy and Scott Perry and Byron Donald's have
Speaker 2: done is they provided leading up to today which would
Speaker 2: have rendered today irrelevant. And frankly, I just think it's
Speaker 2: just a bad look for the Republicans overall. I understand it,
Speaker 2: considering the margin is tiny and small, and you know,
Speaker 2: everybody's got their own little agenda, you know, agenda's going on,
Speaker 2: and I understand the principle of wanting to have appropriations bills. Okay,
Speaker 2: in a way, the people that have been fighting for
Speaker 2: that actually won that battle. Had they only just taken
Speaker 2: the bridge that was offered by conservatives of the Freedom Caucus,
Speaker 2: and that was Chip Roy, Byron Donald, Scott Perry, and
Speaker 2: that would have been an eight percent cut immediately, while
Speaker 2: they temporarily would up funding for the Department of Defense,
Speaker 2: Homeland Security, for the borders, and veterans. Then they came
Speaker 2: up with a thirty Then they came up with thirty
Speaker 2: percent across the board cut again with funding of those
Speaker 2: three priorities, and that that would have, you know, not
Speaker 2: required what we ended up with, which was a forty
Speaker 2: five day continuing resolution occurrent spending levels. But if the
Speaker 2: goal here is and the goal is noble, and the
Speaker 2: goal is right, and this is certainly worth fighting for
Speaker 2: if you want the appropriations bills that will deal with
Speaker 2: all of these issues. The beauty is if the Republicans
Speaker 2: can break this log jam within the House of Representatives. Remember,
Speaker 2: they have one half of one body of Congress here,
Speaker 2: one branch of Congress. And the beauty of it is
Speaker 2: that had they taken that bridge, passed and finished the
Speaker 2: appropriates build process, all of the issues surrounding securing the
Speaker 2: border HR two, all of the issues involving funding for defense,
Speaker 2: homeland security, border security, veterans benefits, and all of the
Speaker 2: necessary spending cuts so we can avoid two trillion dollars
Speaker 2: in new debt next year like we've had this year.
Speaker 2: That that would have been a job well done and
Speaker 2: everyone could pat each other on the back with the
Speaker 2: massive win because at that point, as soon as they
Speaker 2: pass that bill with their small majority, and we still
Speaker 2: may get there, and I'm hopeful that we may get there.
Speaker 2: If we get there, then that means okay, now the
Speaker 2: Senate's got to deal with this. I want the pressure
Speaker 2: on Mitch McConnell, not on the House of Representative House
Speaker 2: is nowhere near the problem that the senators. The Senate
Speaker 2: is where the real problem is. But then you'd get
Speaker 2: conservatives in the Senate like Mike Lee and Ted Cruse
Speaker 2: and Ran Paul and Mark Rubio and others saying, uh huh,
Speaker 2: we're going along with a House bill. Then they've got
Speaker 2: themselves a problem in the Senate. When they finally try
Speaker 2: to pass a bill, they will pass a bill with
Speaker 2: a lot more spending and a lot less border security,
Speaker 2: and then they go to a conference with the House,
Speaker 2: and at that point the House can just hold firm
Speaker 2: and then if anybody at that point is going to
Speaker 2: be responsible for a quote the dreaded government shutdown that
Speaker 2: never really is dreaded. You know, it is all hype,
Speaker 2: It is all misinformation, and it's unfortunately, as they fight
Speaker 2: amongst themselves here, this is the wrong place, the wrong time,
Speaker 2: the wrong fight, especially considering we had multiple off ramps
Speaker 2: put together by some of the most solid conservative members
Speaker 2: in the House, as supported by even Donald Trump, who
Speaker 2: has weighed in on this, and it is right in
Speaker 2: his comments that you know why he actually took time
Speaker 2: from his own New York trial involving his business empire
Speaker 2: to actually put on truth social Why are these Republicans
Speaker 2: fighting among themselves? Why are they not fighting the radical
Speaker 2: left Democrats that are the ones destroying the country. That's that,
Speaker 2: That is where the focus and the fight needs to be.
Speaker 2: We might get there. You know, I'm not wringing my
Speaker 2: hands as all of this unfolds. You know, it's you know,
Speaker 2: sometimes you got to break a few eggs to get
Speaker 2: a good scrambled egg lunch. There. Let me go to
Speaker 2: a Steve Scalize, who just spoke the majority leader.
Speaker 7: Mister Scalise is recognized, Speaker, thank my friend from Oklahoma
Speaker 7: for yielding. And when we go back to January, as
Speaker 7: many people have, we knew that it was going to
Speaker 7: be a narrow majority. We also knew that it wasn't
Speaker 7: going to be easy.
Speaker 1: How many of us.
Speaker 7: Came here because we thought this job was going to
Speaker 7: be easy. How many of us thought the task ahead
Speaker 7: of us to address the problems to this country was
Speaker 7: going to be easy.
Speaker 1: One thing we did know is that if we were.
Speaker 7: Going to finally start confronting problems that had been ignored
Speaker 7: for years and years and years, we had to change
Speaker 7: the way that this place worked. And one thing, Speaker
Speaker 7: McCarthy embraced from day one is to start making those
Speaker 7: kind of changes to this institution, opening up the process,
Speaker 7: allowing members to be more engaged, having amendments come to
Speaker 7: the floor, single subject bills, doing appropriations bills. Yes, making
Speaker 7: that happen overnight is not something that happens automatically, but
Speaker 7: it started to happen and we are now seeing the
Speaker 7: fruits of it. Just last week, we had four different
Speaker 7: appropriations bills on this House floor, four different ones. Now,
Speaker 7: those bills took weeks and weeks to finally get to
Speaker 7: the floor, going through an open committee process, hundreds of
Speaker 7: amendments each one of them, where Republicans Democrats could bring
Speaker 7: their ideas abated those bills on the floor, some until
Speaker 7: after midnight, where members can actually participate in the process.
Speaker 7: This has been a broken process for a long time,
Speaker 7: but it's a process where we if we're going to
Speaker 7: confront the problems that families are facing, because right now
Speaker 7: we need to resolve our differences inside this House chamber
Speaker 7: before we can then go and fight for those families
Speaker 7: who are struggling. But every single day across America, families
Speaker 7: are struggling with real problems that we're going to have
Speaker 7: to get back to solving and those problems are real
Speaker 7: for them. It's inflation, it's the economy, it's high energy costs.
Speaker 7: It's an open southern border that doesn't just affect the
Speaker 7: border states. It's affecting every state. Republican districts, Democrat districts.
Speaker 7: Everybody knows it. And it can be ignored by the
Speaker 7: White House. But this House is the only body that
Speaker 7: started to take action. When we with HR two and
Speaker 7: then with the border bill last week, and with over
Speaker 7: the action we took last week, over seventy percent of
Speaker 7: government funding passed out of the House. However, everybody voted
Speaker 7: Republican or Democrat. This House passed funding for over seventy
Speaker 7: percent of the federal government's operation. And it's sitting over
Speaker 7: in the Senate where they've passed zero. And we're going
Speaker 7: to beat up each other and talk about our internal processes,
Speaker 7: and we need to get our internal processes working better
Speaker 7: art here and if we don't focus these next forty
Speaker 7: five days, because that's what we've got in front of us.
Speaker 7: We've got two bills this week, We've got two more
Speaker 7: appropriations bills next week, and if we're going to be
Speaker 7: confronting those We've got to stay focused on our mission.
Speaker 7: What the other side does, Let's continue to put pressure
Speaker 7: on them, but we also need to put pressure on
Speaker 7: ourselves to do our job. And Speaker McCarthy's been leading
Speaker 7: at the top of the level to make sure that
Speaker 7: we have the tools to do our job in a
Speaker 7: different way than the House has done it before. This
Speaker 7: House is going to have to continue to make those changes.
Speaker 7: But the American people sent us here to confront those problems.
Speaker 7: We're finally starting to This isn't the time to slow
Speaker 7: that process down. We need to keep doing our work.
Speaker 7: We need to keep fighting for those families who are struggling.
Speaker 7: But so does the Senate, and so does the White
Speaker 7: House as well. Let's keep doing this work that we
Speaker 7: were sent here to do.
Speaker 2: I yeel back stally in many way echoing my comments
Speaker 2: that where the pressure point needs to be is on
Speaker 2: that other body, the US Senate, because if the House,
Speaker 2: if the House passes what is responsible, and they make
Speaker 2: their case to the American people, they're going to win
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Speaker 2: timeline of by the way, Chad is looking for the
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Speaker 2: But anyway, so the timeline is at some point, maybe
Speaker 2: in the next five or ten minutes, we're told what's
Speaker 2: scheduled anyway, is they're going to have a vote, but
Speaker 2: it's not going to be an electronic vote, which means
Speaker 2: it's going to probably take a little bit of time,
Speaker 2: maybe as long as thirty thirty five forty five minutes
Speaker 2: somewhere in that area. Again, I'm guestimating here, so I
Speaker 2: don't know for sure. Also, throughout the day one available,
Speaker 2: when this debate adds and the votes start taking place,
Speaker 2: will get calls, probably just off the House floor from
Speaker 2: people like Chip Roy and Byron Donalds and others. They're
Speaker 2: going to check in anyway. One other thing that I
Speaker 2: want to know now we have yet to discuss that
Speaker 2: Hunter Biden, by the way, is pleading not guilty today
Speaker 2: to the gun charge against him. Ironically, we're told that
Speaker 2: they're going to use the defense of the Second Amendment.
Speaker 2: Now that's going to get interesting. However, these are the
Speaker 2: laws that have been supported by you know, his own father.
Speaker 2: It's it's really interesting. And this is I think, is
Speaker 2: that I want to play for you. This judge in
Speaker 2: this case. Remember the judge yesterday notices he's on live TV. Oh,
Speaker 2: let me smile for the cameras. Let me look really
Speaker 2: good here and remember that yesterday. Oh okay, Well, that judge,
Speaker 2: by the way, just slapped a gag order because Donald
Speaker 2: Trump had said something about the clerk. Let me see
Speaker 2: what this says. This is just breaking as we speak. Uh,
Speaker 2: where is that there? It is, No, that's not it.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 2: It is the judge issues the gag order in this
Speaker 2: case in New York on Donald Trump after the former
Speaker 2: president quote disparage the key court stafford during his civil
Speaker 2: business broad trial. The judge issue the order applies to
Speaker 2: all parties in the case. Anyway. By the way, chat
Speaker 2: program is actually right outside the House Chamber. He has
Speaker 2: been watching this in real time as we have. He
Speaker 2: knows all things Washington, DC more than anybody. Hitchhiker's Guide
Speaker 2: to whether or not Speaker McCarthy will be removed in
Speaker 2: the next hour.
Speaker 8: How are you, sir, Well, this is quite an unprecedented
Speaker 8: day here in Congress. At some point in the next
Speaker 8: couple of hours here we will have an answer to
Speaker 8: the fate of Kevin McCarthy, the current House speaker. What
Speaker 8: they're debating right now is whether or not to force
Speaker 8: a vote to remove Kevin McCarthy. And at the end
Speaker 8: of this debate, what they will do is they will
Speaker 8: ask members to vote by their seats. They will call
Speaker 8: the role orally. Members will vote by name as they're
Speaker 8: called alphabetically and say yes or no. Do they support
Speaker 8: this motion to vacate the chair. This has not happened
Speaker 8: since nineteen ten. And if that motion is adopted, then
Speaker 8: there is no speaker of the House. Things are absent,
Speaker 8: and by rule, what they're supposed to do is go
Speaker 8: in and then start electing a speaker. This is much
Speaker 8: what happened in January. The House cannot function without a speaker.
Speaker 8: You can't put other bills on the floor, you can't
Speaker 8: debate other.
Speaker 2: But I thought McCarthy also handed over a list.
Speaker 8: Well, you see, but that's the speaker pro temp. We've
Speaker 8: never had that before, and that's basically based on a
Speaker 8: nine to eleven contingency of government, so there will be
Speaker 8: a speaker ProTem who would oversee that debate of the
Speaker 8: election of the next speaker, whether it be Kevin McCarthy
Speaker 8: or somebody else. But that person is not They can't
Speaker 8: do anything else except just elected speaker. That they can't
Speaker 8: move other bills and things like that. They had the
Speaker 8: President of the House is to elect a speaker and
Speaker 8: we've almost never been to this position in House history before.
Speaker 2: You know, I look at President Trump's tweet on truth
Speaker 2: social Why is it Republicans are always fighting among themselves?
Speaker 2: Why aren't they fighting the radical left Democrats that are
Speaker 2: destroying the country? And I tend to agree with him,
Speaker 2: and especially the timing of this, you know, frankly, couldn't
Speaker 2: be any worse, especially when there were two resolutions put
Speaker 2: together by some of the most conservative members. I think
Speaker 2: you'd agree with me, Chip Roy and Byron Donald's and
Speaker 2: Scott Perry was a part of it. Freedom Caalcus members
Speaker 2: That one would have allowed an eight percent cut across
Speaker 2: the board but for Defense, Department of Homeland Security, the
Speaker 2: borders and veterans programs, while they passed a thirty day
Speaker 2: cr so they could finish the appropriations process and passing
Speaker 2: the twelve appropriations bills has been what Matt Gates has
Speaker 2: been complaining about the most. Isn't it don it?
Speaker 8: That's right, and that's where you know the alcolytes from
Speaker 8: the loyalist Kevin McCarthy said, this is going to inhibit
Speaker 8: any of our progress that we may here. We're not
Speaker 8: going to be able to fund the government. We're not
Speaker 8: going to be able to make some of the cuts
Speaker 8: that conservatives are demanded if we don't have a speaker,
Speaker 8: because again, you know, the House can't act if there's
Speaker 8: no speaker. And there's a fear on the Republican side
Speaker 8: of the aisle that if this was on for a
Speaker 8: few days or weeks, I mean there's one speaker's election
Speaker 8: longest in eighteen fifty five, fifty six took two months,
Speaker 8: that you're going to wind up with some other speaker,
Speaker 8: a coalition speaker, maybe a Democratic speaker, because again, it's
Speaker 8: not the most votes that win in the House. You
Speaker 8: have to have this is the rule to elect speaker
Speaker 8: sean an outright majority of all members casting ballots for
Speaker 8: somebody by me. So you always hear me say it's
Speaker 8: about the math. So if they need four and four
Speaker 8: and thirty three current members right now, you need at
Speaker 8: least two hundred and seventeen members to vote for someone
Speaker 8: by me, and the fact that Kevin McCarthy has eleven
Speaker 8: on his side, who won't they're able to outpace him
Speaker 8: on that on that point, but they can't get to
Speaker 8: two seventeen either, So nobody knows how we get out
Speaker 8: of this call de sect. I mean, this might go
Speaker 8: on for a while, frankly, if this next vote goes
Speaker 8: the direction that is reflected in the vote earlier that
Speaker 8: got us to this point.
Speaker 2: Let me let me ask you this, because I've been
Speaker 2: speak peaking with members. They've been texting me while they're
Speaker 2: on the floor, even right now. And the last text
Speaker 2: I got from Congressmanship Roy said, you know that he's
Speaker 2: looking at He says he thinks it's going to be close.
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure if it's going to be that close.
Speaker 2: You tell me if I'm right or wrong in my gut.
Speaker 2: And he talked about Crane, Rosenberg, Biggs, Gates, Good and
Speaker 2: Burshett hard No, unclear about Buck Mills and a few others.
Speaker 2: So what is your count currently because you're right there
Speaker 2: on the ground, you might have a better feel for it.
Speaker 8: Possible to know, frankly, because we just we've never been
Speaker 8: to this area before. And members might vote present, they
Speaker 8: might not actually vote, and so that changes the vote
Speaker 8: calculus here. And so even if you get a few
Speaker 8: of those you know on board there you spill, still
Speaker 8: might not have the votes necessary to you know, get
Speaker 8: over this next hurdle here, let alone elect to speak. See,
Speaker 8: that's why it's so dangerous, and the reason it's so
Speaker 8: hard to figure out what the magic number is is
Speaker 8: that you don't know how many people are actually casting
Speaker 8: ballots until the end of that vote. That requires some
Speaker 8: very complex parliamentary algebra.
Speaker 2: All right, so let's walk through possible scenarios. Obviously it's
Speaker 2: easy if McCarthy is still the speaker, then they move
Speaker 2: on with regular order and they get back to the
Speaker 2: business of the people. Correct.
Speaker 8: Yes, but he is a weekend speaker at that point,
Speaker 8: because you know this happened to him had a four
Speaker 8: seat majority. He's considered to be a pretty weak speaker
Speaker 8: going in because you know it took fifteen rounds back
Speaker 8: in January, and so, yes, but you know, the first
Speaker 8: big problem of the where are these votes going to
Speaker 8: come to fund the government?
Speaker 2: Well, but the biggest argument that MATC. Gates has been making,
Speaker 2: and by the way, in my view, it's a legitimate one. However,
Speaker 2: I thought that the short term proposals, which I didn't
Speaker 2: understand why conservatives opposed it. There were two of them.
Speaker 2: The first one was the one that I mentioned, the
Speaker 2: eight percent cut, and the second one, the late latest one,
Speaker 2: was even a little more hardcore, and that was that
Speaker 2: was the thirty percent cut of the federal bureaucracy and
Speaker 2: increasing funding for defense and veterans benefits and the Department
Speaker 2: of Homeland Security combined with HR two, and that was
Speaker 2: rejected as well.
Speaker 8: Why was that rejected, Well, because some of these members
Speaker 8: they just don't want to vote for anything. It's not
Speaker 8: going to be you know, Matt Gates used the term
Speaker 8: bald rolling earlier, the idea that they put these bills together,
Speaker 8: that they should be individual bills. There's some members and
Speaker 8: by the way, I don't know if you you're watching
Speaker 8: that this is getting really heated on the House floor
Speaker 8: right now where Matt Gates is really having it out here,
Speaker 8: and there's a lot of booing from the Republican side
Speaker 8: of the island and it's watching this in real time here.
Speaker 2: Sun, hang on, let me put it up right now.
Speaker 8: And Sewan, I have to interrupt here because the New
Speaker 8: York Control Room on the television.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you go ahead, you got to get back to TV.
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the floor of the House. Chad
Speaker 2: Cuba program, Thank you.
Speaker 4: I'll be happy to fund my political operation through the
Speaker 4: work of hardworking Americans and twenty and thirty dollars at
Speaker 4: a time, and you all keep showing up at the
Speaker 4: lobbyist fundraisers and see how that goes for you. I reserve.
Speaker 3: Once again in the chair, would admonish those speaking from
Speaker 3: the floor to direct their comments to the chair. Gentleman
Speaker 3: from Oklahoma, Miss Speaker out inquires to how much time
Speaker 3: remains for each side. From Oklahoma controls three minutes. The
Speaker 3: gentleman from Florida as three minutes as well.
Speaker 2: I advise the gentleman from Florida. I'm prepared to close.
Speaker 2: If he is the speaker.
Speaker 3: I yield the balance of my time to my great
Speaker 3: friend from North Dakota, mister Armstrong. Gentleman from North Dakota,
Speaker 3: Mister Armstrong is recognized with the remaining three minutes.
Speaker 1: Thank you, mister Speaker.
Speaker 6: Let's be clear why we're here, because the incentive structure
Speaker 6: in this town is completely broken. We no longer value loyaltygrity, competence,
Speaker 6: or collaboration. Instead, we have descended to a place where clicks,
Speaker 6: TV hits and the never ending quest for the most
Speaker 6: mediocre taste of celebrity drives decisions and encourages juvenile behavior
Speaker 6: that is so far beneath this esteemed body. Kevin McCarthy
Speaker 6: has done more in nine months to restore the People's
Speaker 6: House than any speaker in decades. We have done regular order,
Speaker 6: we have out had open amendments, and every single member
Speaker 6: of this Chamber has the right, the ability, and the.
Speaker 1: Opportunity to be heard on the floor.
Speaker 6: It's been messy, it's been raucous, and at times it's
Speaker 6: been chaotic, and God bless every minute of it. Because
Speaker 6: democracy is supposed to be hard, and because the alternative
Speaker 6: is a closed door process where two thousand page bills
Speaker 6: come out of the Speaker's office at midnight and are
Speaker 6: forced to the floor of the next morning. Kevin McCarthy
Speaker 6: has broken that cycle. That alone is enough for him
Speaker 6: to remain our speaker, but that doesn't deliver his opponents
Speaker 6: what they crave the most attention. We shouldn't stand for it.
Speaker 6: I won't stand for it. I will stand here with
Speaker 6: our speaker, with our leader that the overwhelming majority of
Speaker 6: our comperence supports. And you need to look no further
Speaker 6: than where the opponents are sitting today in this chamber.
Speaker 1: They're not over here, they're over there.
Speaker 2: So you have a very small minority of Republicans wanting
Speaker 2: to vacate the chair. The vote seems like it's going
Speaker 2: to be starting by the time we get back from break.
Speaker 2: We'll take a break, we'll come back the latest on
Speaker 2: this vote to vacate Speaker McCarthy