1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: The third hour Clay in Books starts right now, and 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: as we had mentioned before, we're going to have our 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 2: buddy Vivek Ramaswami presidential candidate on at. 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: The bottom of the hour. Looking forward to getting a chance. 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: To speak to But I've known to Vec for years. 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: We actually did a live event together. There are a 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 2: few of us on the program in Milwaukee, Clay, which 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: was a lot of fun. And Vivek this is this 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: is really the first time I got a chance to 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: talk to him. Shoe Behaney said, I love your work, man, 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: You're doing great work. So Vivek is a very astute 14 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: and brilliant fellow. As we all know, he has excellent 15 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 2: taste in conservative media content and is doing quite well 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: in the polls right now relative to what people would 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: have guessed based on the fact that, oh, he was 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: somewhat of a well, he's a newcomer to politics, to 19 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: be sure. So we'll talk to a Vec in a 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: little bit in the meantime. New York City, Alvin Bragg 21 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: is the District Attorney of New York. As we have 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: discussed many times, before, and he came in to a 23 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: city that was begging for. 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: More law and order, really doing the exact opposite. 25 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: He came in and he was suggesting that some crime 26 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: should be even less severely punished, or not punished at all. 27 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 2: There was pushback on this. Bragg is an individual who's 28 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: highly ideological. He is pushing has pushed this prosecution of 29 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 2: Donald Trump on and I'm being serious, Clay. It's it's 30 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: that he didn't. What is it again, is that he didn't. 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: It's a it's a campaign finance issue that they elevate 32 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: to a federal issue because they say it was in 33 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: furtherance of another crime, and therefore the statute is extended 34 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: and it's it's a felony and not a misdemeanor. I mean, 35 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: it is the most legal acrobatics I've ever seen in 36 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: a high level prosecution just to bring to prosecution. Right, 37 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: it's effectively he should have listed it as a campaign 38 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: expenditure and he didn't. And because he didn't, and it's 39 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: involved something federal, the State of New York is. 40 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: Bringing just a reminder. Isn't that pretty much it? 41 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've summed it up in some ways, and that's 42 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: a legal complexity. Usually this is a misdemeanor, and they 43 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: are using a loophole to not only elevate it to 44 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 3: a felony, they are using a loophole to elevate it 45 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: to a felony when the statute of limitations would have 46 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: otherwise expired. And so the other thing to think about 47 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: take it outside of Trump right now, Alvin Bragg is 48 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: consistently taking felonies and lowering them to misdemeanors here, which 49 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: is virtually unprecedented in the entirety of the New York 50 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 3: City District Attorney's office. He is taking a misdemean and 51 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 3: elevating it to a felony. So in general, I think 52 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 3: it's almost over half of all felony charges that are 53 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 3: filed are being brought down to misdemeanors in the city 54 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: of New York. Here he is elevating what would be 55 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 3: a misdemeanor to a felony, which is virtually unprecedented, solely 56 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: for political purposes. 57 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: So he has admitted, this was written off of the 58 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: New York Post, that he gets scared about going on 59 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: the New York City subway system and that when he 60 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: has a family member go on he is nervous about it. Now, 61 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: all of us see this and say to ourselves, you 62 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: are the district attorney. There is no one in a 63 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: better position to do something about this than the district attorney. 64 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: But it's inescapable to come to the. 65 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: Conclusion that this is for a lot of ideological leftists 66 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: like Alvin Bragg, this is clay now the price that 67 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: these cities are just supposed to pay, even with the 68 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: really high crime rate, even with the disorder. Forty one 69 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: percent of New Yorkers have never been this concerned about 70 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: their safety, according to a new sentapol. So they are 71 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 2: more concerned now than they have ever been before, forty. 72 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: One percent of them. 73 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: And a lot of those New Yorkers were around in 74 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: the early nineties when things were com like me, when 75 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,239 Speaker 2: things were completely out of control. 76 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: So what do we see? Do we see an effort? 77 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: This is the disconnect, right If Alvin Bragg was saying 78 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 2: this about how even he, the District Attorney of Manhattan, 79 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: is scared to get on the biggest subway system and 80 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 2: the biggest city in America. But he was saying, you 81 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: know what, that's it. You step out of line, you 82 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: hurt somebody, We're locking you up. You steal something for 83 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: the third time, we're or you know, third time. Some 84 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 2: of your probably say, why not the first time? Well, 85 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: because right now it's the thirtieth or the fiftieth time 86 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: and no one cares. But you know, your repeat offender, 87 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: we're gonna a non violent stuff. 88 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: We're going to lock you up. 89 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 2: We are going to take the few thousand people who 90 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 2: are making New York dangerous and unlivable, and we're going 91 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: to take away their freedom for a time, because that 92 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 2: is what the law requires. If he was saying that 93 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: in doing it, I'd be like, look, it's a tough job, 94 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 2: let's give it some time. 95 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: But instead he's I'm scared to go on the subway too, But. 96 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: Hey, the system is bad and racist, and so we 97 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: need to make sure we're letting a lot of people 98 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: off as lightly as possible. 99 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: I would also add on the Daniel Penny case. If 100 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 3: I were Daniel Penny's defense attorney, I would actually contemplate 101 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 3: calling Alvin Bragg as a witness and forcing him to 102 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 3: testify under oath about the fact that he himself, as 103 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 3: the chief law enforcement officer in many ways of New 104 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: York City, is afraid of being on a subway, because then, 105 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 3: as the defense attorney, I would say, well again, I 106 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: want to hear your comments, wouldn't And given that being 107 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: the case, Alvin Bragg, what I don't know? 108 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 4: What? 109 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: What do you think Alvin Bragg's height and weight? 110 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 5: Is? 111 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: I have no idea he's short, we know he's fat. 112 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: Is he's short too? I don't know. I mean, I don't, 113 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: I don't. 114 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 3: Let's let's give him five five ten fifty two fifty 115 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: may be generous, but all right, five to ten two fifty. 116 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: You are a small or than average. 117 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: Let's say I think he's shorter than average, but you're 118 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: you're a fat man who probably is not great at 119 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: defending yourself. Given that you're afraid to get on the subway, 120 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 3: wouldn't you prefer that fit, athletic, strong former Marines are 121 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: in subway cars with you to potentially protect you from 122 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 3: people who might engage in violence. And by the way, 123 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: you don't even have to start with Daniel Penny. I'm 124 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 3: just saying if I were the defense attorney in New 125 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 3: York City, I would put Alvin Bragg on the stand 126 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 3: as an illustration of how common this thread is. And 127 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: I would start off by saying this, Hey, Alvin Bragg, 128 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: you're afraid to get on the subway. Are you less 129 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: afraid on the subway if there are police officers in 130 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: the subway car with you? I think everybody would have 131 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: to say yes. Right, you're on the witness stand, swear 132 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: to tell the truth. Alvin Bragg, you're afraid to be 133 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: on the subway. But if you're on the subway and 134 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: there are police officers on that subway car with you, 135 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: do you feel safer? 136 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: Yes? Do you feel safer if there. 137 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: Are military personnel in uniform on the subway car with 138 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: you in their uniform? 139 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 4: Yes? 140 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 3: I think you'd have to say yes, young athletic, fit guys, yes. 141 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 3: So why are you prosecuting Daniel Penney, a former marine 142 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 3: who is young and fit and was trying to protect 143 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: everyone just like you who might be scared otherwise of 144 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: perpetrators doing ill will to them, committing crimes of violence 145 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: while you're on the subway. I don't know how he 146 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: answers that question, but to me, it throws everything into 147 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: an uproar. That's my first thought when I saw these 148 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 3: quotes was, if I'm Daniel Penny's defense attorney, I'm filing 149 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 3: of emotion for dismissal based on what Alvin Bragg has said, 150 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: because he's letting it be known that the fear of 151 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 3: being on the subway is so paramount that even the 152 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: chief law enforcement officer of New York City is expressing 153 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: it publicly. And I agree with you, Buck, if he 154 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 3: had come back and just said followed this up by saying, 155 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: and that's why we are prosecuting every crime so aggressively. 156 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: Whether you're jumping a turnstile, whether you are caught spray painting, 157 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: doing graffiti, whether you are stealing a water bottle from 158 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: a place that's selling products in the subway, we want 159 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: full justice brought against you. We are going to make 160 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 3: the subway say for everyone. 161 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: Look when Mayor Bloomberg was and I was living in 162 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: New York City at the time and worked at the 163 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: NYPD for a short while. Then when Mayor Bloomberg was 164 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: running the city, you know, there are things that I 165 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 2: really disagree with Bloomberg gone as matters of policy at 166 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: the national level. But the guy was a good mayor. 167 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 2: He had Ray Kelly running things. The city was safe, 168 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: the city was clean, the city was booming economically, and 169 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: one of the major components of that was he came 170 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: in after after the Jiuliani cleanup. He came in and 171 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: he was just like, yeah, things being clean and safe, 172 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: this is a good idea for everybody. Let's keep this 173 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: thing going. And the left, you know, started to push 174 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: and started to demonize and it really and all you 175 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: look at stop question and frisk. That became this huge 176 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: thing all we have to get rid of stop question 177 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: and frisk. And from there it's never enough. That's what 178 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 2: everyone has to understand with the left. Any concessions you 179 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: make the lawlessness always just. 180 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: Are followed up with even more. And you see, you 181 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: see this across the board. Have you seen now? 182 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: You know, the the ACLU is backing up all these 183 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: laws that are starting to get rolled out where they're 184 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: going to try to separate. They're gonna push in places 185 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: like California, for law is that if you don't affirm 186 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: your child's you know, new gender, that the state can 187 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: take your kid away from you. That's already in process 188 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: in these places, and organizations like the ACLU are like, yeah, 189 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: that's right, that's what civil liberties means. If a twelve 190 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: year old doesn't want to you know, if a twelve 191 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: year wants to rather, you know, cut off his genitals, 192 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: and a parent says, hold on a second, I don't 193 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 2: think this is a good idea. State's got to take 194 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: that kid away. And this this is what I mean 195 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: by that they always keep pushing. Any concessions made to 196 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: their bad ideas just result in more demands for more concessions. 197 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: Well, this is the problem with wokeness in general. It 198 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: doesn't end. 199 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: And I've been making this argument for a long time, 200 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: but I think a lot of people don't really understand it. 201 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: I used to make this argument about sports teams having 202 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: to change their names. Okay, the Redskins are gone. Now 203 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: the Indians are gone. We've got the Commanders and we've 204 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 3: got the Guardians. That's not enough, right, The new target 205 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 3: is going to be the Chiefs, and then the target 206 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 3: will be the Braves, and then the target will be 207 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: the Notre Dame fighting Irish. 208 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: These people don't want. 209 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 3: There to be an end because if there's an end, 210 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 3: then their political power disappears, so they always have to 211 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 3: find something more. 212 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm a rational, reasonable person. Buck. 213 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: If you set me across the table and I said, okay, 214 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 3: I am representing sanity. I don't want to change mascot 215 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: names at all, but in an interest of compromise and 216 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: to take this off the table and to stop fighting 217 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 3: about it. I'll give you the Redskins, I'll give you 218 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 3: the Indians, and we just this is the end, right, 219 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 3: We no longer fight over mascots. 220 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: People can change mascot names. 221 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 3: If they think, hey, we'll sell my way more product, 222 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 3: like they do when they change uniforms. That's how a 223 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 3: rational person would go. You'd compromise and it would be over. 224 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: They won't. The progressive woke agenda is the tip of 225 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: the spear. They can't ever rest because if they say, okay, 226 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 3: things are pretty good here, that's why they move from 227 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 3: tangible things, Hey, you can't be tangibly racist, to well, 228 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 3: actually the whole world is systemic racist. Well, how do 229 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 3: you cure systemic racism? Well you have to be racist 230 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 3: in the other direction. That's where we are now, right. 231 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: It's not even the idea of the idea that if 232 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 3: you're racist you somehow benefit in this country. If you 233 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 3: are a validly racist, you have no political power, you 234 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 3: have no ability, I mean talking about white racist. 235 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 2: Unemployable and can't even find a place to live. Basically, 236 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 2: no one's gonna no one's gonna sell you a home. 237 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 2: No one's gonna rent you a home. 238 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: I mean you you're They won't even let you have 239 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: a website. 240 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: You know, it's almost impossible to even have it, to 241 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 3: be able to write online. 242 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: So this idea that somehow. 243 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: There's this massive cadre of powerful white supremacist is probably 244 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 3: the foundational why of the Democrat Party right now. And 245 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 3: when Joe Biden comes out and says, you know, the 246 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: greatest threat to America today is white supremacy. 247 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: I just I just have to laugh. 248 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 3: The least powerful people politically in America today are white supremacists. 249 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 3: They can't do anything, they can't even get on the internet. 250 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: Anyway. 251 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: I'm fired up about it because it's just the foundational 252 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 3: lie that allows all the other lies to be built 253 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 3: upon it. We've got to have vivek Ramswami coming up 254 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: with us in just a few moments. 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Go 276 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: to prepare with Clay and Buck dot com right now. 277 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 2: From the front lines of freedom and truth, Clay Travis 278 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: and Buck Sexton Welcome. 279 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 3: Back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show appreciate all of 280 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 3: you hanging out with us. 281 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: Buck. 282 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 3: We got an interesting interview that happened this morning with 283 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: Disney CEO Bob Iger. He's now announced that he is 284 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: extending his term for two more years as the ceo 285 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 3: Disney stock continues to flounder same price it was at 286 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 3: nine years ago, and our crew pulled from this interview 287 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 3: a discussion that I thought was super interesting. He was asked, 288 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 3: Bob Iger, CEO on CNBC, hey is your feud with 289 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 3: Ron DeSantis, governor of Florida affecting attendance at parks? This week, 290 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 3: the Wall Street Journal had an article Buck that said 291 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 3: that the July fourth crowds at Disney World were a 292 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 3: decade lowes and I thought this answer was interesting because 293 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 3: I do think this has been a major hit to Disney. 294 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 3: I think a lot less people are going to their movies, 295 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 3: going to their parks, consuming their content. But Bob Iger 296 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: says that's not true. Listen to this cut. 297 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: There was an article on the Wall Street Journal that 298 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: seemed to indicate that people aren't going to Disney World 299 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 2: at the rate that they did. 300 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: Certainly a year ago. 301 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: And your fight with the governor there or his fight 302 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: with you. 303 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: Is he having an impact do you think on attendance? 304 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 5: No, now we see no sign of that at all. 305 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 5: The article that you are referred to was not accurate. 306 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 5: Actually it was measuring attendance at disney World on July fourth, 307 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 5: which didn't really factor in temperature, which is about one 308 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 5: hundred degrees in ninety nine percent humidity on that day. 309 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 5: So if you look at the numbers in Florida in 310 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 5: twenty twenty three, which just recently versus twenty twenty two, 311 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 5: where not as much was open and Florida was the 312 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 5: only thing in the only game in town, there's a 313 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 5: lot more competition today. 314 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 3: Okay, So Buck, what's interesting here is it's a lot 315 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: always hot. I'm going to toss this out there for 316 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 3: our Florida listeners. Buck, you're in Florida right now. It's 317 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 3: always hot on July fourth in Orlando. 318 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: Okay. 319 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 3: So Bob Iger's saying, well, they didn't really take into 320 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 3: account that this July fourth it was hot. 321 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: It's always hot. They hit a ten year low. 322 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 3: Now, I haven't gone back and looked at the temperatures 323 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 3: in Orlando every day on July fourth over the last 324 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: ten years. But I would also submit most people going 325 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: to Disney World on July fourth are doing it as 326 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 3: a family vacation, right. I don't think there are that 327 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 3: many people who wake up in Orlando on that day 328 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 3: and they're like, Hey, let's just decide to go to 329 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 3: Disney World. I think this fight with Ron DeSantis has 330 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: been disastrous for Disney's brand. 331 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 332 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: The second biggest source of revenue for them after their 333 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: the media side of it is theme parks. I'm looking here, 334 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: fifty five billion dollars of total revenue for media and 335 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: entertainment segment in twenty twenty two, and let me see, 336 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 2: parks experiences twelve billion dollars. 337 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: So that's a. 338 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: Big, big, most profitable part of Disney right now. Yeah, 339 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: they make a lot of money off the theme parks 340 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 2: while they push on it. So for overall revenue, it's 341 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 2: the second leading segment of it. They're clearly getting hit. 342 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 2: They don't want to admit that. They're hoping that the 343 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 2: pressure will fall. You see now they're basically giving away 344 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: bud Light at this point. Not that that's Disney, but 345 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: I'm just saying they're not used to this. In corporate America, folks, 346 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 2: they're not used to the rights saying enough. 347 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:02,959 Speaker 1: Is enough, and I think Disney is getting bud lighted. 348 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 3: I really do few things drain your energy every day 349 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 3: more than being outside when the temp's top ninety degrees 350 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 3: or more days on end, just an energy's app Maybe 351 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 3: it's so hot that you're like Bob Iger, you can't 352 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 3: even go to Disney World if you want to actually 353 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 3: have a little bit of energy. How about some them 354 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 3: vitality vigor saw some people I tweeted yesterday Buck that 355 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 3: I had avocado toast, and they said, you must not 356 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 3: be taken chalk. That's how much people weren't questioning me. Fair, 357 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 3: fair potential argument there. My testosterone might be plummeting. I 358 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 3: need to be taking more chalk. Get set up today, 359 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 3: especially if you're eating avocado toast. There's no telling what's 360 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 3: next for you. Pronouns in the bio. Go to chalk 361 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: dot com. That's spelled cchoq dot com. Use my name 362 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 3: Clay to save thirty five percent off the subscription for life, 363 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 3: not a week, not a month, the life of the 364 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 3: subscription choq dot com today. 365 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. 366 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 2: Let's take a look the polls here for a second, 367 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: because they just put out play the first polls showing 368 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 2: where the Republican candidates are that meets all the criteria. 369 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 2: So this is from Politico, the first poll that meets 370 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: all the criteria for candidates to qualify for the first 371 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: GOP debate. This is kind of like more official poll 372 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: and what we have in it shows eight candidates hitting 373 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: all the criteria that are that have at least one 374 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 2: percent support. And there's a couple other things, but Trump 375 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: at fifty six percent, Ron DeSantis at seventeen, the Vek 376 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: Ramaswami at eight, the Vek in third right now, Mike 377 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: Pence seven percent, Clay Nikki Haley three percent, Tim Scott 378 00:19:54,560 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: three percent, Chris Christy three percent, Asa Hutchinson at one percent, 379 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: and so Asa I think is set to. 380 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: Make it onto the debate stage. Right. 381 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: That's they have to have at least forty thousand donors. 382 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: I'm looking at this now. So that so that means 383 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 2: if you hit one percent, you are in the polls 384 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: enough to get on the debate stage. Then you have 385 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 2: to have you have to have two national polls that 386 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 2: show that, and then you have to have forty thousand 387 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: individual donors and and have to pledge to support the 388 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: eventual nominee. We may be joined here at some point 389 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: soon by our friend Vivek. You might, oh is he 390 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 2: with us? Vizk Ramaswami, tech entrepreneur and according to polls, 391 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: mister Vek, third place right now in the Republican primary 392 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 2: must be quite a ride for you. 393 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 4: It's going well so far. I'm I think we're still 394 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 4: in early days of this, but much of the country 395 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 4: still doesn't know who I am, and so we're actually 396 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 4: doing better than expected this early in the polls. But 397 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 4: I think the debate stage. I heard you just talking 398 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 4: about that, and I think that is going to be 399 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 4: critical for the next phase of this campaign season. And 400 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 4: I think it's going to be Can I. 401 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: Just ask you for back, I mean, give us a preview. 402 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 2: Obviously a lot of it's going to be your back 403 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 2: and forth with some of the other candidates, but you 404 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: know your version. Sometimes I'll do opening statements. Give us 405 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: a shortened version of your opening statement that you're planning 406 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: to give on that debate stage. 407 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 4: I have to tell you, I haven't prepared it yet, 408 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 4: but let me give it a try. This has called 409 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 4: us my debate practice. So some of eight Rise of 410 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 4: Cake and I have lived the American dream. My parents 411 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 4: came to this country with almost no money forty years ago. 412 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 4: I've gone on to found multi billion dollar companies. I 413 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 4: did it while getting married, having two sons, following my 414 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 4: faith in God. And I'm in this race because I'm 415 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 4: worried that American dream will not exist for the next generation. 416 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 4: And I see a conservative movement today that is habitually 417 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 4: running from something. I'm in this race as the first 418 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 4: millennial ever to run for president as Republican. I am 419 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 4: in this race to lead us to start running to something, 420 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 4: to our vision of what it actually means to be 421 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 4: an American today. And I think that means reviving the 422 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 4: ideals that won us the American Revolution two hundred and 423 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 4: fifty years ago. That's the task ahead in twenty twenty four. 424 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 4: So I don't know if that was good. 425 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: On the fly or that's pretty good. That's pretty good 426 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: on the fly. 427 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 3: I don't think Joe Biden could even come up with 428 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 3: a single sentence, probably hardly to answer a question. Thanks 429 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 3: for coming on with us, Congratulations. 430 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: Got the cocaine to help out, you know, Thanks for 431 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: coming on with us. 432 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 3: I'll ask you about that because I do think it 433 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 3: goes to the distrust that many Americans of all political 434 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 3: persuasions feel in institutions of power in this country. Right now, 435 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 3: when you hear the Secret Service come out and say 436 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 3: we can't figure out where this cocaine came from, what's 437 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 3: your reaction? 438 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: Do you buy it? In any way? 439 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 4: I think there are two choices of what's a issue. 440 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 4: One is incompetence, and the second is even worse than incompetence. 441 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 4: It is dishonesty. I think in this particular case. Usually 442 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 4: I'm a big believer in believing an explanation that ends 443 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 4: in incompetence. That is usually the explanation, certainly relating to 444 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 4: any bureaucracy for a failure. But in this particular case, 445 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 4: I actually think it's so glaring that it is outright dishonesty. 446 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 4: It has to be. I mean, it reminds me a 447 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 4: little bit of the way we felt when we were 448 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 4: debating the COVID lab league, right yeah. I mean, nobody 449 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 4: had hard evidence that it came from China instantly. That 450 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 4: has since come out, But at the time, you have 451 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 4: a virus unlike any scene before in the properties by 452 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 4: which it's spreading that started in Wuhan, which is the 453 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 4: one city that there's a bioterrorism lab that conducts known 454 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 4: gain of function research on engineering viruses, and we say 455 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 4: that it didn't come from that lab. I mean, how 456 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 4: preposterous would that have to be? And the same thing. 457 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 4: Now you have a son of a US president that 458 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 4: regularly visits the White House that literally in his laptop 459 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 4: had cocaine, not to mention multiple actual address documented cocaine 460 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 4: use in spids that hangs out in the White House, 461 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 4: and there's a white bag is a block found there 462 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 4: is that not very many people get into that has 463 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 4: cocaine in it, fingerprinting, etc. I mean, this isn't This 464 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 4: isn't complicated stuff. If the Secret Service can't do this, 465 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 4: I don't particularly trust them to protect the President of 466 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 4: the United States from complex threats. But the reality is, 467 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 4: of course they have the capability to. It's the fact 468 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 4: of covering up accountability for this isn't. Let's just be 469 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 4: honest with this, even things relatively small, I'm not minimizing it. 470 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 4: But amongst the scheme of things that I would worry 471 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 4: about with this administration, including criminal behaviors that compromise the 472 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 4: potential integrity to be able to lead a country accepting 473 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,959 Speaker 4: bribes from a state affiliated company. Have not put this 474 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 4: obvious piece together. The five million dollars that comes from Barisma, 475 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 4: which was a company that supposedly privately owned but whose 476 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 4: owner was on like a national security Council for Ukraine, 477 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 4: happens to now be the country getting two hundred billion 478 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 4: dollars of taxpayer funds directed by that US president. That's 479 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 4: a deeper problem to me than a drug addict kind 480 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 4: of president's son leaving some cocaine around the White House. 481 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 4: It's not good, but it's just an example of connect. 482 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 3: Not sorry to cut you off, but you agree with 483 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 3: me on this that if you were having to project 484 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 3: where this cocaine came from, Hunter Biden is by far 485 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 3: the biggest suspect, right, And I'll just say that if 486 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 3: we knew a serial killer was visiting a house and 487 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 3: a dead body was found outside of the house, it 488 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 3: wouldn't be crazy. Kareem Jean Pierre said it was unacceptable 489 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 3: to even have this discussion. I'm sure you saw that 490 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: it wouldn't be crazy to say if a dead body 491 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 3: ended up in a place that we knew a serial 492 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 3: killer spend a lot of time. Hey, maybe the serial 493 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 3: killer did it. When we know that Hunter Biden is 494 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 3: a cocaine addict and cocaine shows up in the White 495 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 3: House that they can't claim they don't know where it 496 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 3: came from, it's not crazy to think, oh, maybe it 497 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 3: was the cocaine addict that had the cocaine occam's razor. 498 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 4: It's very simple. Use the simplest explanation first, and that's 499 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 4: why I used the covid lablake thing again. Karine John 500 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 4: Pierre saying that about Hunter Biden is the equivalent of 501 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 4: social media companies censoring your account and locking you down 502 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 4: from being able to say that this started in a 503 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 4: lab in Wuhan calling that racist two years ago, and 504 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 4: I'm not making that up. As you guys will well 505 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 4: remember that's exactly what happened in this country. And though 506 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 4: you know it's a lady doth protest too much. 507 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 2: In this the veke if I can, if I can 508 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: take us back, and we're speaking of the Vike Ramaswami here, 509 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: who is currently running third in the most recent major 510 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 2: national poll for the Republican nomination VI Vike. 511 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: To that end, uh the. 512 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: Trump campaign seems pretty positively disposed toward you uh, unlike 513 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 2: one of your other front runners, who is getting a 514 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 2: lot of back in worth with the Trump campaign. You 515 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: are running, and I know you're going to tell us 516 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 2: that you want to be the president, but do you 517 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: think you would do a better job than Trump. 518 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 4: I'm in this race because I think I'm going to 519 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 4: do the best job of leading and reuniting this country. Yes, 520 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 4: I do believe that I am the one candidate in 521 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 4: this race. I think there's a lot of Republicans Trump included, 522 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 4: by the way, who are positioned to defeat Biden in 523 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 4: a general election. So I reject the electability case against Trump. 524 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 4: I think Trump versus Biden, or most of the Republicans 525 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 4: in this field versus Biden, can in narrow election absolutely win. 526 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 4: I think I'm the only candidate in the Republican field, frankly, 527 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 4: who can deliver a landslide election buck in to what 528 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 4: Ronald Reagan did in nineteen eighty. And I do think 529 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 4: we need a landslide election. We need a moral mandate 530 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 4: to revive this country. You know, I mean, just point 531 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 4: to the facts of that, right, thirty percent of our 532 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 4: You were talking about the forty thousand donor threshold for 533 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 4: the Republican Party that many, even you know, well known 534 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 4: politicians have had trouble meeting and are complaining that is 535 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 4: set too high. I've already passed sixty five thousand unique donors. 536 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 4: I've never had a political donor in my life. I 537 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 4: never had a donor list that we started with either. 538 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 4: I post selfie videos on Twitter and collect donations that way. 539 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 4: But we have data on this, and I think last 540 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 4: I checked, at least it was about thirty percent of 541 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 4: them or first time ever donors to a Republican Canada. 542 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 4: That's unheard of. It's usually two to five percent for 543 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 4: Republican candidates. So it just tells me. I mean, I 544 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 4: go to the South side of Chicago, I go to 545 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 4: Kensington in Philadelphia, where even the police don't show up, 546 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 4: where Democratic politicians certainly don't show up. I'm going to 547 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 4: college campuses across this country, and I just see an 548 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 4: opportunity to think beyond Republican and Democrat boundaries. I could 549 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 4: care less for honestly traditional partisan distinctions. To me, it's 550 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 4: whether we're part of this pro American movement, and I 551 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 4: think that is the formula for actually delivering you know, 552 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 4: Reagan Revolution in nineteen eighty. I'm in this to do 553 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 4: a Ramaswa revolution in twenty twenty four by similar margins 554 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 4: to what Reagan gave us. And I think that's what 555 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 4: we're going to need to actually see through much of 556 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 4: the revival agenda of shutting down the administrative state, declare 557 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 4: independence from China, revive national pride. That's not going to 558 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 4: happen with the fifty point one margin. And so yes, 559 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 4: I do think I'm the best positioned person in this 560 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 4: republican field by far to deliver that, and that's what 561 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 4: motivates me to be in this. 562 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 3: We agree we need a landslide. That's actually what my 563 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 3: book is laying out comes out next month. I think 564 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 3: you'll agree with a lot of it, to think. So 565 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 3: we mentioned you're now qualified to appear in the in 566 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 3: the first debate. Donald Trump has not said whether or 567 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 3: not he will participate in that debate. Should he participate in. 568 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 4: That debate, I don't think. I don't think it matters 569 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 4: whether he comes to the first couple of debates. I mean, frankly, 570 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 4: this country knows who he is. Not only was he 571 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 4: on many debate stages last time around, he also let 572 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 4: the country as US president, I think it's important for 573 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 4: people who haven't run for president before, or people who 574 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 4: haven't been in the White House before, to be in 575 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 4: the early debate stage. I do think that it is 576 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 4: important that Trump show up on the debate stage at 577 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 4: least later on in this cycle, and I expect to 578 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 4: be on there with him. Frankly, it might be just 579 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 4: me and him by the time that that plays out. 580 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 4: I think it'll be probably just me and him by 581 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 4: the time where it's Super Tuesday. But in the early 582 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 4: stages of this I'm perfectly fine being on that debate 583 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 4: stage even if Trump doesn't show up, because frankly, most 584 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 4: of this country doesn't yet know me or certainly know 585 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 4: me well, and I think it's just a very different 586 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 4: position than what Trump's in. 587 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 3: Okay, you've been made yourself very wealthy, fantastic businessman. A 588 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 3: lot of that is risk analysis, taking advantage of opportunities. 589 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 3: To me, that was basically the essence of COVID, Right 590 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 3: could you or could you not analyze risk? And unfortunately 591 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 3: a lot of politicians could not. If I right now 592 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 3: said to you, there's a lot of Republican candidates, you 593 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 3: get to be vice president, but you have to drop 594 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 3: out of the race. So you are Trump's VP. Trump 595 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 3: has a huge lead right now. Trump says comes to 596 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 3: you and says, vivaik, I want you to be my guy, 597 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 3: your VP. You'll then be the favorite in twenty eight. 598 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 3: We're gonna win in twenty four. 599 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: Yes or no? In response to that option, for. 600 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 4: Me, it would be no, And for someone else the answer, 601 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 4: you're right, could be yes. But for me the answer 602 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 4: is no because it depends on how much you value 603 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 4: that thing, Okay, And for me, the whole project here 604 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 4: is about service to the country. And I think I'm 605 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 4: going to use my skill set be by if I'm 606 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 4: not US president, continuing to do the things that I've 607 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 4: been doing. I mean, fuck, And I met at Atten 608 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 4: in Wisconsin. What a couple thousand people there. My Woking 609 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 4: book tour. That was funny books, that was fun, right, 610 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 4: And so so I'm cranked out a book every eight months. 611 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 4: I've built businesses. I built Strive that competing against Black 612 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 4: Rock change the game on the ESG movement in this country. 613 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 4: There are lots of ways to drive change in this country. 614 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 2: And there are the Obviously, when you're third and you're 615 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 2: running as well as you are, you're not going to 616 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 2: drop out now later on in this process. If Trump 617 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: were the nomination, right right, right. I don't know where 618 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 2: the dropout thing came from, But if Trump were the nominee, 619 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 2: would you consider being on a ticket with him. 620 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 4: I will be helpful to this country in whatever way 621 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 4: I can, but I would not be uh Number two 622 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 4: or member of an administration. I just don't think that's 623 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 4: the right way for me to make the maximum positive 624 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 4: impact on this country. And I'll tell you why. I 625 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 4: was going to say. I think there's a lot of 626 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 4: other talented political leaders in the Republican Party, and a 627 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 4: lot of them are going to be needed in the administration. 628 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 4: I think there aren't that many talented executives in terms 629 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 4: of people who can actually build companies, lasting enterprises, lead 630 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 4: in the private sector, and so I'm going to have 631 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 4: an impact that way. 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VIC. 636 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: We don't want this interview to end, but unfortunately we're 637 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 2: basically at time we just want to give you a 638 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 2: chance to say what your site is or where people 639 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 2: can go to learn more about your campaign. 640 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 4: Vivik twenty twenty four dot com, v I v e 641 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 4: K twenty twenty four dot com and I love you guys. 642 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: We'll talk some more, all right, my friend, thank you. 643 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: That's fascinating, right, I mean, thanks to Vivike and good Man. 644 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: There's a reason that he's that he's pulling third right now. 645 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a lot of people out there, you know, 646 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 3: raising their eyebrows interested, Like most people won't say again, 647 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 3: we'll break this down a little bit more for you 648 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 3: when come back to close out the h to close 649 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 3: out the program today. 650 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: But that was fun. 651 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 3: Innovation Refunds the name of the company helping tens of 652 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 3: thousands of small business owners with their e ERC tax refunds. 653 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 3: The e r C is the Employee Retention Credit. 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How 672 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 3: much would you bet that Vivek would take the VP 673 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 3: slot if Trump offered it to them a lot? 674 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: Ten k? You put ten k down on he would 675 00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: take it? 676 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: We like, I mean, I would, I would put some 677 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 2: serious cash down on Vivek would take the VP slot. 678 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: So I would say. 679 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 2: One thing that really came across when we were talking 680 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 2: to just now you know what his you know what 681 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 2: his lane is. He's very smart optimism. Yeah, not fighting 682 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 2: back against the monsters of the left. Not I'm not 683 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 2: saying he won't do that, but I just mean his 684 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 2: his approach is Reagan Morning in America more than crush 685 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 2: the woke communists and destroy them and hear the lamentations 686 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 2: when the villages are you know, you know, all that stuff. 687 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 3: So I think I connect more with that, you know 688 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 3: style in general, and I think he's really good at it. 689 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 3: I mean, that was I'm sure many of you listening 690 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 3: to that interview were kind of thinking, Oh, I'd like 691 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 3: to see him on the debate stage, and I think. 692 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: He'll do very well. There. 693 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 2: Important email from VIP Keith Clay. He writes, Clay, did 694 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 2: you happen to wash down your avocado toast with bud light? 695 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 2: Just curious if Gavin Newsom was with you at that wedding. 696 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: Lol. Job Love the show. 697 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 3: The comments if you want to laugh the comments to 698 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 3: me confessing I had avocado toast on Saturday and Sunday 699 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 3: for breakfast, back to back days, and I confess to it. 700 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 3: The comments are hysterical from you guys. If you want 701 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 3: to go, just scroll down a little bit if you 702 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 3: want a good laugh. Well played by everybody. I did 703 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 3: not have a bud light. I have a functional penis, 704 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 3: so I don't drink bud light and uh and uh, 705 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 3: I know my gender, so I don't drink. 706 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 2: But did you go did you go red pepper flakes 707 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 2: on your avocado toast or perhaps some smoked salmon. 708 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: No, that wasn't an option. 709 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 3: I did order a side of bacon to protect my manhood, 710 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 3: and I had a I had some scrambled. 711 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 2: Eggs on top. Actually, you know what, which I had 712 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 2: given French fries. Two things that you're never upset that 713 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 2: you ordered it. They're good with anything