WEBVTT - How to Evacuate Your Home

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<v Speaker 1>All the media.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi everyone, and welcome to the podcast. I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to go for a really Robert Evans intro there, but

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<v Speaker 2>I bottled it. I own a coward and I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate all of you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Margaret Kiljoy, everyone here to spread the good news.

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<v Speaker 3>I was trying to rap at Evans that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay, yeah, and it doesn't he only hate a

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<v Speaker 2>certain percentage of them, all right, Statistically speaking.

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<v Speaker 3>He likes some of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And because I know some nice people list in

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<v Speaker 2>there Robert likes. Maybe it's you, maybe it's not. You'll

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<v Speaker 2>never know. Today we're not here to talk about who

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Evans likes. But we are here to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>what to do if your house is going to burn

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<v Speaker 2>down or you have to leave because they think it

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<v Speaker 2>might burn down. This is obviously a topic that is

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<v Speaker 2>front of mind for people in southern California currently, given

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<v Speaker 2>the massive wildfires that have engulfed whole neighborhoods of Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>There are fires in Ventura and Start as well. Now

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<v Speaker 2>the whole of East County San Diego is under a

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<v Speaker 2>red flag warning. Fire conditions continue because climate change continues,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have decided as a society not to do

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<v Speaker 2>anything about that, and so this shit is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the rest of our lives.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're on the East Coast or somewhere else and

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<v Speaker 3>you're like, oh, I'm fine, I'm not on the West Coast,

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<v Speaker 3>bad news for you. You're not fine. Slowly, more and

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<v Speaker 3>more the East Coast, including the northeast, is being seen

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<v Speaker 3>as a fire prone area, and we're seeing an increase

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<v Speaker 3>in fire out east as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeap, the United Kingdom as wildfires now a thing did

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<v Speaker 2>not exist.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you all even have wild over there?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? We have like land owned by the monarch fires,

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<v Speaker 2>we have like parks and protected land. We don't really have.

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<v Speaker 2>We have commons to a degree, but not not like

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<v Speaker 2>public land of the US does. Like when I was

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<v Speaker 2>a kid, we used to burn the stuff into draw fields.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's how how a few fucks we gave about fires.

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<v Speaker 2>We just burn it in a plat back in and

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<v Speaker 2>air quality. I guess that is not a thing that

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<v Speaker 2>people engage in anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>That's probably for the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Fire it's coming for you. It's happening everywhere. Hooray, hooray. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>lucky you. The cleansing fire. I feel like there's a

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<v Speaker 2>John Betchaman poem I could go off with here, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'll spare you all right. So, if you are in

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<v Speaker 2>a place where you are very likely to have to

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<v Speaker 2>evacuate your home soonish for a fire, here are some

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<v Speaker 2>things that you may wish to consider doing. I've harvested

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<v Speaker 2>these from mutual a groups in LA and from the

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<v Speaker 2>Cowfire website, where they give you advice on what to

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<v Speaker 2>do if you're evacuating. The first thing that you want

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<v Speaker 2>to do is turn off your gas. For those of

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<v Speaker 2>you who are not familiar, this is a flammable substance,

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<v Speaker 2>and your gas pipe rupturing and then catching on fire

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<v Speaker 2>would be bad, would be sad. It's pretty easy to

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<v Speaker 2>do this. Normally, you should have a valve near the meter.

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<v Speaker 2>Some places we'll have what's called earth quake shut off

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<v Speaker 2>or an earthquake valve where you won't need a tool.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure that. In fact, i'm pretty certain those

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<v Speaker 2>are not mandatory, even in California, because I've lived places

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<v Speaker 2>that don't have them. Then again, there are things that

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<v Speaker 2>are mandatory that landlords just aren't doing. I think we

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<v Speaker 2>all know that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, or like grandfathered into or whatever. M hmm yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, given that people outside California are listening and the

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<v Speaker 2>earthquakes are are fortunately not coming for us all just yet,

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<v Speaker 2>I would just suggest that you try and find where

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<v Speaker 2>your gas shut off is now. It's often where the

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<v Speaker 2>gas comes into the property, like there's a gas meter,

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<v Speaker 2>and normally you're going to need some kind of tool

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<v Speaker 2>to term that. What I've used normally is just like

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<v Speaker 2>an adjustable spanner or wrench. For those of you in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>The people at California that you're talking to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, yeah, Hi, fellow Californians. You can turn that

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<v Speaker 2>valve so it turns parallel with the pipe. That's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of shut off the gas coming into your house.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you mean a perpendicular to the pipe. I'm curious.

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<v Speaker 2>I think parallel is shut off.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting with water, you turn it off by moving a perpendicular.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never messed with a gas line. I've lived weird

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<v Speaker 3>and off grid instead.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let me have a look. I'm checking now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, it wants to be at ninety degrees to the pipe. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so it should be in line with the pipe when

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<v Speaker 2>you start in ninety degrees to the pipe when you

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<v Speaker 2>turn it off, which you.

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<v Speaker 3>Can just kind of imagine as like when it's in line,

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<v Speaker 3>you can imagine like, oh, that's how the gas and

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<v Speaker 3>water can flow through, and then when it's to the side,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, oh, now it's blocking it. That's how I yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I remember.

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<v Speaker 2>That's much easier visually if you imagine like the hole

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<v Speaker 2>in the valve lining up with the handle.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing on there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you want to turn that off? I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>some suggestions that you want to turn water off. Generally,

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<v Speaker 2>the advice is not to turn your water off, and

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<v Speaker 2>to hook up your outdoor hoses to your outdoor taps

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<v Speaker 2>such that they can be used if they need to

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<v Speaker 2>be used. I have seen some suggestions to turn water

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<v Speaker 2>off because I guess people's pipes are bursting, which is

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<v Speaker 2>decreasing water pressure.

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<v Speaker 3>And it seems like that's probably a like city versus

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<v Speaker 3>rural or like city the city kind of divide. You

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<v Speaker 3>should listen to your local authorities around this kind of thing, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like in the case of California, you can go to

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<v Speaker 3>CalFire right and there will be evacuation advice on the

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<v Speaker 3>CalFire website.

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<v Speaker 2>There might even be on your city website. Some of

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<v Speaker 2>it is useful. This is a useful thing if you

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<v Speaker 2>do need to turn off your water. Again, water shut

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<v Speaker 2>offs could be in a variety of places, so it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of depends. Especially if you're on a well, you're

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<v Speaker 2>probably row and if you're roll, you're probably going to

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<v Speaker 2>be leaving it on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're probably turning off your water. Yeah, but if

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<v Speaker 3>you do need to do it's just a pipe going

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<v Speaker 3>into your basement that you turned it on.

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<v Speaker 2>You can sometimes be at the side of your house.

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<v Speaker 2>You might need to give this a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>WD forty. Sometimes do a little little plastic box as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and the little plastic box has a little hole and

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of have to shove a screwdriver in that

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<v Speaker 2>hole and pop it open.

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<v Speaker 3>We're now talking about city water again, right, municipal water, Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's city water. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's where if you have a water meat box

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<v Speaker 2>it could and the shut offs in there. Familiarize yourself

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<v Speaker 2>with that stuff now so that you're not doing it

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<v Speaker 2>in a panic later, And that's kind of where a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of what we're talking about today is. It's important.

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<v Speaker 2>It's if you do it now, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>dash about your house grabbing thinking. It's just important do

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<v Speaker 2>I need this?

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<v Speaker 3>Do I need that? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Because like I've evacuated for wildfires living in California a

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<v Speaker 2>few times. I like to think I have it pretty

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<v Speaker 2>down now, but definitely the first time I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>freshly minted European migrant, it was not familiar with this stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and it definitely just ran around grabbing things.

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<v Speaker 3>So it turned out to be the wrong thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, cool, I've got three bicycles here, let me

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<v Speaker 2>let me go to the shelter.

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<v Speaker 3>And you can get something called a water key or

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<v Speaker 3>a silcock key. And I have a thing I have

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<v Speaker 3>not personally used it. I have a thing called an

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<v Speaker 3>eight way key. Sometimes they are called four way keys,

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<v Speaker 3>depends on how many little wrenches on them are on them.

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<v Speaker 3>And these are just cheap things that have like basically

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<v Speaker 3>all of the weird wrench style things that you would

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<v Speaker 3>never otherwise use, like all the weird like triangle things.

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<v Speaker 3>They can get you into like the boxes on a

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<v Speaker 3>subway car, and they can turn on and off water,

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<v Speaker 3>like I carry one in case you know, you're in

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<v Speaker 3>the apocalypse and you need to turn on the water

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<v Speaker 3>at a rest area, you know, that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I've first learned about this from squatters, so it would

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<v Speaker 3>just move into houses and then turn the water on.

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<v Speaker 3>And they they're built in specialized ways to try and

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<v Speaker 3>prevent squatter from doing exactly what I'm describing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you couldn't use your standard socket set or

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<v Speaker 2>what happens. So that's where you need these specialized keys. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're not very expensive you can buy.

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<v Speaker 3>They're also not very high quality. This isn't the kind

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<v Speaker 3>of thing you're going to want to use over and

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<v Speaker 3>over again. They're usually cast and like they break, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like pot metal. Yeah exactly. Yeah, but they're are right

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<v Speaker 3>as far as I can tell. Yeah, and any you

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<v Speaker 3>hope you're not going to need to use them very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Other things that you should turn on or off, turn

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<v Speaker 3>off your air conditioning. No one's in the house anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>don't need it. I would consider leaving your exterior lights on.

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<v Speaker 3>This is just going to help firefight to see things

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<v Speaker 3>and see your house in the event that your house

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<v Speaker 3>is still there. You can close your windows and doors.

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing how much difference closed doors even internally make

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<v Speaker 3>it in fire spread that There are plenty of videos

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<v Speaker 3>you can watch about this online, but like it's amazing

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<v Speaker 3>how much difference it makes having those closed. But you

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to lock your front door like you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to see a lot of stuff about looting. I will

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<v Speaker 3>tell you right now that the people who are looting

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<v Speaker 3>from wildfire survivors are the landlords who are charging one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and fifty percent of the rent that they were

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<v Speaker 3>a month ago for people to find a flaceplace to live. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>if my house is about to burn down and you

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<v Speaker 3>go steal all my stuff, good have it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, lucky you like I hope you don't get burned,

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah, yeah, compared to if a firefighter needs to

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<v Speaker 2>enter that house to prevent it burning down. It takes

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<v Speaker 2>a meaningful amount of time to break down a door, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can save that time by leaving it open.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that is something that I think you will

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<v Speaker 2>get the wrong impression of if you're watching too much

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<v Speaker 2>corporate news. If you can close metal shutters on your

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<v Speaker 2>windows but remove curtains, flammable things near windows generally not

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<v Speaker 2>a good idea, right, that makes sense. So if you've

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<v Speaker 2>got fabric curtains, I know they look nice, but take

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<v Speaker 2>them down. But you could just live like me and

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<v Speaker 2>never purchase curtains and just I don't have to have

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<v Speaker 2>the sun in your face. You know what is happening

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<v Speaker 2>to right now? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're going to start a whole interior design thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I see James interior design where you hang

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<v Speaker 3>your curtains.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, James's effectively squatting in a house that he actually rents.

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<v Speaker 2>You should also move flammable items into the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the room again, right, that's where the fire is not.

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<v Speaker 2>And then before you go, choose an outfit that covers

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<v Speaker 2>your legs and arms. Right, and you want to wear

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<v Speaker 2>some sturdy shoes as well, something that's comfortable, something you

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<v Speaker 2>could potentially sleep in and wear for a few days

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<v Speaker 2>and not be uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>Shoes that you could walk in. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw a lot of people in la weren't able

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<v Speaker 2>to take their vehicles as far as they had expected

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to, and so having a pair of

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<v Speaker 2>shoes that you're comfortable in, your nice, comfy walking shoes

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<v Speaker 2>is definitely a useful thing to have something to think about.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you're not listening to this dashing around your

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<v Speaker 2>house if you are, best of luck, Yeah, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know you can prepare all this stuff now for

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<v Speaker 2>the outside of your house. Flammable stuff that might catch

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<v Speaker 2>outside your house is best either bought inside inside your

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<v Speaker 2>shed if you have a shed or a garage or something,

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<v Speaker 2>or in a particularly California piece of advice, CalFire suggests

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<v Speaker 2>chucking your path to your furniture in the pool. So

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<v Speaker 2>that is the thing that you can do. That makes

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<v Speaker 2>some sense, it does. Have you seen the picture of

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<v Speaker 2>this lady in the nineties who put all her fine

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<v Speaker 2>china in her swimming pool before evacuating in a wildfire.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very like of the time, Like it was

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<v Speaker 2>a time when people could afford swimming pools, and also

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<v Speaker 2>people had china that they cared about, which is something

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<v Speaker 2>that our generation generally does not.

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<v Speaker 3>Unless they inherited it from their parents, and in which

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<v Speaker 3>case they still also yeah right they have like one plate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Apparently it's a big issue

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<v Speaker 2>with people like inheriting china and not want to get

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<v Speaker 2>in and just dumping on good wiels.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah I believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can see that. So, yeah, you can put

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<v Speaker 2>stuff in your pool if you don't want to burn.

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<v Speaker 2>If it is possible for you to do that you

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<v Speaker 2>have something you mentioned Margaret about you your fence right

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<v Speaker 2>living in a more rural setting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, can I actually just kind of like really quickly

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<v Speaker 3>run through some if you fire protecting your house. There's

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<v Speaker 3>two things you're gonna do. One is the oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to run away now version, and then there's the

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<v Speaker 3>ahead of time version. The really quick basic version of

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<v Speaker 3>the ahead of time is that, and this is more

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<v Speaker 3>applicable rurally. But you want to have a defensible space.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, everyone's going to give you a different number,

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<v Speaker 3>but like one hundred feet from your house. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>want densely packed trees, especially conifers, and you're gonna want

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the one tree is okay as long as

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<v Speaker 3>it's a little bit further from the other. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>want to clear out yard debris, even though leaving leaves

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<v Speaker 3>on the ground is overall good, kind of want to

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<v Speaker 3>create this space where there's not a lot of leaf

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<v Speaker 3>litter and things like that directly under your house so

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<v Speaker 3>that the eaves don't catch. You want to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that you don't keep a lot of flammable stuff there.

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<v Speaker 3>And if like if I was fleeing my house in

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<v Speaker 3>a hurry, I would be pulling all the stuff away

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<v Speaker 3>from under the eaves that I should have pulled away

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<v Speaker 3>from under the eaves months ago. If I were to

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<v Speaker 3>design my house better, there would be a basically a

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<v Speaker 3>three foot like gravel line around the edge of my

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<v Speaker 3>house right of landscaping. Yeah, But the other things that

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to want to do is you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>want to look for how embers can get in through

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<v Speaker 3>the vents and stuff like in your roof area or

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<v Speaker 3>under wherever. And you're gonna want to basically make sure

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<v Speaker 3>and it might already have that, but you want to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that there's tighter than chicken wire. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's I think you want quarter inch mesh covering those things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like construction netting. Yeah, well metal, but yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>metals the name of it. Oh okay, it's what they

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<v Speaker 2>put into concrete. I think I use it to build

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<v Speaker 2>chicken Oh yeah, runs for some reasons. Well, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>raccoon hans can't get through it, and raccoons they're bastards

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<v Speaker 2>as it turns out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that makes sense. If your porch is wooden, you

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<v Speaker 3>have a porch, you don't want fire to get underneath it,

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<v Speaker 3>and so you can keep your wooden porch, but you

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<v Speaker 3>want to screen off underneath of it to keep flaming

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<v Speaker 3>debris from going under there. And then if you have

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<v Speaker 3>a wooden fence, consider having the first ten feet or

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<v Speaker 3>so of the fence the brick or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't afford this, but imagine you can. Then you

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<v Speaker 3>would want the first chunk of it to be that way.

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<v Speaker 3>If you have gates, you open them. The deal with

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<v Speaker 3>fences and everything is that you don't want like a

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<v Speaker 3>wick that brings fire to your house. So if the

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<v Speaker 3>forest around you is burning, you don't want it to

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<v Speaker 3>catch your fence and have that go right up to

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<v Speaker 3>under the eaves, catch the eaves on fire. And now

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<v Speaker 3>I you have a structure fire. So what you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>do is you open the gates if you're leaving. And then,

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<v Speaker 3>for example, my plan, because I have a wooden fence

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<v Speaker 3>that goes all the way up to my house, is

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<v Speaker 3>that if I have more than like five minutes to

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<v Speaker 3>flee a fire, by a half an hour to flee

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<v Speaker 3>a fire, I am taking the chainsaw and I am

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<v Speaker 3>cutting down about ten feet of that wooden fence before

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<v Speaker 3>I leave, And that should dramatically increase the chances that

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<v Speaker 3>my house will survive a fire. Yeah, smart move. And

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<v Speaker 3>then another thing with a pool thing, And I think

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<v Speaker 3>I've read about, but I've never there's no version of

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<v Speaker 3>my life where I'm ever gonna have a pool if

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<v Speaker 3>you live in a fire prone area. They actually make

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<v Speaker 3>pumps that are designed to pump your pool water into

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<v Speaker 3>a fire hose, and they have saved a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>rural areas and probably city areas too by having that

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<v Speaker 3>accessible to firefighters. Immediately, your pool can become a resource

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<v Speaker 3>for the people who are coming in to try and

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<v Speaker 3>keep your house intact.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, amusingly, we use one of those. When I was

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<v Speaker 2>a kid, we had a whole wow like to get out,

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<v Speaker 2>and one day she got out. We all went looking

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<v Speaker 2>for of course, there were some wealthy people who like well,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't live in the village that we lived in.

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<v Speaker 2>They owned it because Britain has never moved on from

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<v Speaker 2>this Ugal era, and they had a pool and that

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<v Speaker 2>that was where our horse was. And so the fire

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<v Speaker 2>brigade came and they used one of those things, just

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<v Speaker 2>pumped out the water and just like host down the

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<v Speaker 2>surrounding garden. And then we came with the tractor and

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<v Speaker 2>we put some different strawbeles of different sizes, made a

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<v Speaker 2>set of stairs and got her out.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the least relatable story I've ever heard about England.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in yeah, just like a rural people living the dream. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she was a good horse, misty. Yeah, we had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of horses that, like, we had access to land

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<v Speaker 2>and not a great deal of finances, so we inherited

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<v Speaker 2>problematic horses. I think for people who had like who

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<v Speaker 2>had the means to purchase.

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<v Speaker 3>That is relatable to the Americans. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, any people find themselves in this situation, I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Horse poor is a whole thing. Yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, it's it's the rich people who buy fancy

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<v Speaker 2>horses and then like find the horse not to their

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<v Speaker 2>liking and can afford to discard a living thing spent

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<v Speaker 2>more than a car is worth on.

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<v Speaker 3>Well and also, I mean, horse poor is you have

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<v Speaker 3>a horse, but you don't have any money, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>you're partly poor because you have the horse. Because horses

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<v Speaker 3>are incredibly expensive to ye maintain, Yes, they are. Vets

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<v Speaker 3>cost a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah anyway, so yeah, make sure not quite a horse relation.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you are more of a horseless carriage transport person.

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<v Speaker 2>If you are, this is a very American thing. In

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<v Speaker 2>possession of an electric garage door opener, it is a

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<v Speaker 2>good idea to work out how to open your garage

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<v Speaker 2>without that. Yeah, because you don't want to be in

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<v Speaker 2>a situation where you can't use your vehicle because you

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<v Speaker 2>can't open your garage, or you don't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>dashing around going where's the bloody cord? Not the time, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so work out how to do it now. Also, your

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<v Speaker 2>front gate. Hopefully you don't live in a gated community.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the way to live. But if you do,

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<v Speaker 2>for whatever reason, you know, know how to open the gates.

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<v Speaker 2>Or if you have an electric front gates, you're drive

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose know how to open that, Margaret. Now will

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<v Speaker 2>be a good time for us to pause for ads.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if we will get an advert for electric

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<v Speaker 2>garage doors.

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<v Speaker 3>Or electric horse. Oh yeah, maybe do they dream of

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<v Speaker 3>electra care.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll find out in its advertising break. All right, we

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<v Speaker 2>are back, and we're continuing on the theme of animals

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<v Speaker 2>because they are.

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<v Speaker 3>Our little friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So if you have animals inside your house, pets

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<v Speaker 2>We have farm animals inside my house growing up, so

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's not exclusive to pets. Used to bring

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<v Speaker 2>the lambs in when it was cold, little often lambs. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>this is turning into like James story.

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<v Speaker 3>That's okay, it's cute stories.

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<v Speaker 2>People who are in possession of a range, like like

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<v Speaker 2>a big cooking if you have a very old house

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<v Speaker 2>in the UK, or again if you're rich, you have

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<v Speaker 2>these like coal burning or oil burning ovens, so they

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<v Speaker 2>stay at his temperature, and they have a number of doors.

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<v Speaker 2>The coldest one you can put a lamb in there

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<v Speaker 2>in the winter time and you can keep it warm

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<v Speaker 2>that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Like in a live one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, well I mean any of them. You

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<v Speaker 2>can put a dead one in if you felt the knee.

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<v Speaker 2>If you look at you're saying okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah yeah. If you're looking to take care of your animal,

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<v Speaker 2>you put them in there and keep the More so,

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<v Speaker 2>if you have pets in your house, things to do

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<v Speaker 2>before you evacuate would be make sure they have a

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<v Speaker 2>collar on which has your name and your contact information. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a big fan of the breakaway collars, especially for dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>We never had collars on a dog showing up because

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<v Speaker 2>the dogs were always out in the fields and going

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<v Speaker 2>through hedges and stuff, and you don't want them to

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<v Speaker 2>get caught up. Yeah, and so I'm a big fan

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<v Speaker 2>of those, especially in a situation where your pet's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be scared. You know, God forbid that you'd lose

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<v Speaker 2>your pet goes running for a bit. You don't want

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<v Speaker 2>them to get caught up by that neckus.

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<v Speaker 3>W'll probably want to chip your dog as you chip

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<v Speaker 3>your pets.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, I was going to say, now it's a

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<v Speaker 2>good time where you have the time to chip your pets,

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure you have a carrier, make sure you

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<v Speaker 2>have their vaccination records, all that.

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<v Speaker 3>Stuff, and also particularly the particularly rabies vaccination is like

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<v Speaker 3>the thing that you need to make sure that you

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<v Speaker 3>have with you. There's a lot of places you can't

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<v Speaker 3>go with a pet, like Canada unless you have Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hopefully you and your pet will be fine, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>come home in a few days. But keeping that stuff

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<v Speaker 2>is important if you have a cat having a so

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<v Speaker 2>what you can buy those little mobile list of boxes.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're in danger of having to evacuate, just buy

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<v Speaker 2>one and check in your vehicle.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, any medications that your pet has, right, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>want to have a supply of those and those who

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<v Speaker 2>want to be in your go back. It's also nice

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<v Speaker 2>to have some familiar toys and things that's not like home. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so consider puting them in the carrier now, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they'll just be there and you won't have to look

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<v Speaker 2>for them. They have advice if you have to leave

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<v Speaker 2>your pet, which would be a pretty heartbreaking situation to

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<v Speaker 2>be honest.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that choosing to be in charge of

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<v Speaker 3>an animal's entire life is a pretty solemn vow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I would agree, and I don't think I would

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<v Speaker 2>leave them to burn.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, yeah, but I guess there's probably I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you see, like for example, I know we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 3>about livestock in a second, but like you know, people

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<v Speaker 3>have had to like let loose some of their horses

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<v Speaker 3>because they can only personally escort so many horses or whatever. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a few years ago, my friend and I were

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<v Speaker 2>in a situation where a stables had more horses than

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<v Speaker 2>it did vehicles. Yeah, and were able to go in

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<v Speaker 2>a vehicle with a towdruck and just help, Like they

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<v Speaker 2>would load them up and just be like go to

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<v Speaker 2>the evacuation point with these horses. Yeah, and so having

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<v Speaker 2>a plan.

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<v Speaker 3>For that is good.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I know, I struggled be conceive of leaving pets.

0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:26.400
<v Speaker 2>I grew up with dogs and like they were part

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<v Speaker 2>of my family.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I suppose there's some situation I am not imagining

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<v Speaker 3>where it is literally a necessity, but I struggle to Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard about people in LA who were forced to

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<v Speaker 2>leave relatives who were not mobile, which is just fucking heartbreaking,

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, one of the worst things I could

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<v Speaker 2>imagine happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is literally why I actually think that your evacuation plans.

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<v Speaker 3>Not trying to blame those people that we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 3>but I believe that your evacuation plans need to include

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<v Speaker 3>people with disabilities who are in your area, not just

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<v Speaker 3>were you not just in your house, but elsewhere. Like yeah, hundred,

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<v Speaker 3>if you have someone who can only travel by a wheelchair,

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<v Speaker 3>then you should be considering for your only vehicle a

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<v Speaker 3>wheelchair accessible vehicle. Like this is the kind of thing

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<v Speaker 3>that I think that, like plans need to include people

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<v Speaker 3>who are at different levels of ability.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, if you have older people in your neighborhood, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>people who might not have their cell phone on or

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<v Speaker 2>on them all the time. They might not get that

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<v Speaker 2>like beat beat buzz buzz.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. If you have like older folks who live alone

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<v Speaker 3>in your neighborhood, you should know that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, yeah, a few years ago I helped

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<v Speaker 2>some older neighbors evacuate.

0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Yah.

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<v Speaker 2>You live in a community and you need to take

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<v Speaker 2>responsibility and take care of one another. If you have

0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:40.960
<v Speaker 2>livestock again, like you know, I grew up with livestock,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're taking responsibility for the animal's life, and

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<v Speaker 2>that includes situations where you might have to help that

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<v Speaker 2>animal escape in a way that leg is not necessarily

0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:55.920
<v Speaker 2>like lucrative for you. Right, So that might just mean

0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:59.159
<v Speaker 2>opening your fences, right, opening your gates if you're not

0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:01.359
<v Speaker 2>able to evacuate them, or at least giving it a

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<v Speaker 2>chance you can before just to avoid having yourself in

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<v Speaker 2>that situation. Need to make transport arrangements. You should be

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<v Speaker 2>able to look where large animals refuges are, like San

0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:16.800
<v Speaker 2>Diego in the big fires, maybe fifteen years ago, they

0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:19.320
<v Speaker 2>have them on Fiesta Island for a while. Little island

0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:21.520
<v Speaker 2>out in the bay or del Mar Race Course is

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<v Speaker 2>often a place of San Diego where you can take them.

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<v Speaker 2>You should be able to find that now, if you're

0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:27.880
<v Speaker 2>in Los Angeles, you can find that. Now. Again, you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to want to have your essential documentation. You are

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<v Speaker 2>not going to want nylon halters for your livestock. I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen a lot of people have, Like people have nylon

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<v Speaker 2>lead ropes for horses. We had like more hempy ones

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<v Speaker 2>when I was younger, just because those a much left

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<v Speaker 2>likely to melt, right, So that's why we had them

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<v Speaker 2>in the UK. But we had them because we'd have

0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:47.919
<v Speaker 2>them for a long time. But plastic key things that

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<v Speaker 2>can melt. You don't want to put them around your

0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:51.800
<v Speaker 2>horse's head or near your horse.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that makes some sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you have chickens right now, you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>run into the issue of AV and flu. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a further complications. So like this is a

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<v Speaker 2>scenario of like a big chicken shelter where you take

0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:06.399
<v Speaker 2>them is not a good one for AV you and

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:09.480
<v Speaker 2>flu reasons also for like chicken dynamics reasons. So that

0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:11.560
<v Speaker 2>means you should make a plan. Now, you might have

0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:13.560
<v Speaker 2>a friend who you're like, hey, I know that you're

0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:16.080
<v Speaker 2>not normally a poultry person, but would it be cool

0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:17.960
<v Speaker 2>in the event of us having to evacuate for me

0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:19.600
<v Speaker 2>and my chickens to come and stay at your house.

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<v Speaker 2>Making a plan. Now, it's going to avoid you being

0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:25.480
<v Speaker 2>in a very difficult situation of either driving around with

0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:28.040
<v Speaker 2>your birds in your in your truck being like where

0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:30.400
<v Speaker 2>the fuck can I go? Or like being turned away

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:33.240
<v Speaker 2>from places. Right. Yeah, The last thing I have here

0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:34.800
<v Speaker 2>and then we're going to move on to packing your

0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:38.800
<v Speaker 2>go bag is insurance. My house flooded when I was

0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:41.080
<v Speaker 2>a kid, Like, it completely leveled the first floor of

0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:41.360
<v Speaker 2>the house.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything was gone, which, since it's England, is actually the

0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:45.119
<v Speaker 3>second floor to Americans.

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's true. It was actually the great Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I love to uh it's the ground the ground floor

0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:52.879
<v Speaker 3>you have to hide on the first thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I love to go into a lift and be confused

0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:57.879
<v Speaker 2>in this country after sixteen years of living here, go

0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:01.480
<v Speaker 2>up and down, up and down, playing this stupid game

0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:03.840
<v Speaker 2>until I google what do American call their flaws? And

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:05.159
<v Speaker 2>you can't do it, so you're in the lift and

0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:07.840
<v Speaker 2>your phone doesn't work. It's one of my favorite experiences.

0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:11.119
<v Speaker 3>It's because you try to google what do American lifts do?

0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:12.520
<v Speaker 3>And they're like What the fuck is a lik.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's true. Yeah yeah, an elevator. It's

0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 2>not an elevating experience. Away my favorite thing to pick. James,

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:21.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's true. Sure, I'm the only person who does it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure it never happened to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was never an issue when I worked in

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<v Speaker 2>a building with a lift and would routinely miss my

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<v Speaker 2>own floor.

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<v Speaker 3>So that I just took the fire escape.

0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:38.879
<v Speaker 2>So I remember it taking months the time I was

0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 2>working in construction, and what we were doing was for

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:45.320
<v Speaker 2>the most part, pulling wet carpet out of people's homes

0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:48.280
<v Speaker 2>that have flooded. Highly recommend not doing that as a

0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:50.639
<v Speaker 2>way to make a living if you can. It's not

0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:54.119
<v Speaker 2>good for the body, not good for the soul, for

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 2>the lung. It's probably cleaning out restaurants. Like a month

0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:00.560
<v Speaker 2>later the power had been off from month. Just going

0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:03.359
<v Speaker 2>into the walk in. Oh my god, I've never seen

0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 2>so many people vomit, like one after the other being like, no,

0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 2>I could do it. I'm a builder straight, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty horrific. So don't recommend if you can go around

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:16.680
<v Speaker 2>your house taking a video.

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:20.240
<v Speaker 3>Of your yeah stuffs, it will.

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<v Speaker 2>Just make it easier, Like this happened to my family,

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:25.199
<v Speaker 2>and like maybe you know, the early two thousands, so

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:27.199
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't possible. Well, I mean I could have got

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:31.000
<v Speaker 2>the old like Sony handicam out I didn't. So now

0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 2>you know you have a video camera in your pocket

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 2>going around your house taking a video especially of you know,

0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:40.280
<v Speaker 2>the things that are expensive and hard to move that

0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:42.200
<v Speaker 2>you're going to rely on insurance to replace.

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then this is actually a decent regular prepper

0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 3>practice regardless. This isn't a like, oh I'm just about

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:50.920
<v Speaker 3>to have to run out for a fire. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a like every six months or every year, or every

0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 3>time you get a new, weird, expensive thing that you

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:58.440
<v Speaker 3>put in your house, make this video so that it's

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<v Speaker 3>easier to prove all of the stuff that you had

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:02.919
<v Speaker 3>that needs to be replaced. Yeah, if you do that

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:04.720
<v Speaker 3>on a regular basis, there's a little bit of like

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:06.720
<v Speaker 3>security of like where do you put it? Do you

0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:10.399
<v Speaker 3>really want? You know? But it's honestly, for almost all

0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:13.200
<v Speaker 3>people probably totally fine to just have that, yeah on

0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:15.680
<v Speaker 3>the cloud, Yeah yeah, I think I think it. Don't

0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 3>put it on Facebook, but you can get it directly.

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:20.119
<v Speaker 2>Ensure it's going to be your Instagram where you post

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:22.400
<v Speaker 2>an interior video of your home every month. Yeah, that's

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:24.560
<v Speaker 2>that's your thing. I guess join us next month for

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:29.399
<v Speaker 2>behind the podcast. Yeah, podcast crips.

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:30.679
<v Speaker 3>It's just in my shed.

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:35.199
<v Speaker 2>It's me critiquing your interior you have. That would be

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:41.920
<v Speaker 2>a weekly podcast for some time. Shame James and James

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:46.199
<v Speaker 2>Shame podcasts la Things that I've heard people thinks that

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:48.200
<v Speaker 2>you will need. If you have a nebulizer, if you're

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 2>a person who uses a nebulizer to help them breathe,

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:53.879
<v Speaker 2>those are in very high demands. You're probably not going

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.159
<v Speaker 2>to be able to replace it, so bring that with you.

0:26:56.640 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 2>If you have medications, ideally grab the meds in the

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:03.640
<v Speaker 2>little orange thing and take those with you. That where

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 2>you've got the RX number and you can easily go

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 2>to a pharmacy and be like, hey, this is my

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:10.919
<v Speaker 2>prescription for me. It has my name and the RX number.

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Can you issue me an emergency supply? And that's something

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:15.440
<v Speaker 2>they should be able to do. And also if you

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:18.160
<v Speaker 2>grab the whole bottle, then you've got, you know, hopefully

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 2>a decent supply, Hopefully your insurance isn't annoying and only

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 2>lets you go three weeks at a time.

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:24.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that comes up for a lot of people.

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 2>But I will not name any companies because I think

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:33.919
<v Speaker 2>it is against my contract to do that. I will

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 2>say that if you have like your important documents, right,

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:40.640
<v Speaker 2>you're potentially your deed to your house, if you're own

0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 2>on your car, your passport, your birth certificate is a

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 2>big one.

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're right to be in this country.

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, any dream card, visa, that kind of thing, especially

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 2>those in the after Well, this will come out in

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 2>the era of Trump two point zero. So those documents

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:01.359
<v Speaker 2>are going to be very important for some people. Right,

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:05.919
<v Speaker 2>you're darker registration, Put those in a file and grab

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:07.959
<v Speaker 2>the whole thing, bring it with you.

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 3>Do not rely on.

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Scan copies of those, especially your immigration documents. If you're

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:15.879
<v Speaker 2>a person who has firearms, records of the serial numbers

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 2>of those are going to be useful. And again I

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:21.440
<v Speaker 2>would just snap a picture. It's not reasonable or sensible

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 2>to be taking a lot of firearms with you in

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 2>a situation like this. You're not going to need them,

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:26.640
<v Speaker 2>and there's.

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 3>Gona be a lot of places that you won't want

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 3>to bring them.

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you know, I would suggest locking them up and

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:35.440
<v Speaker 2>like I say, documenting that you've done that, you may

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 2>have to prove at some point that firearm no longer exists,

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 2>and then they're probably the best way to do that.

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 2>And being prepared to travel on foot. Like I said,

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 2>another thing that people have been needing and not having

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 2>is P one hundred masks. So that's a particle filter

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 2>generally in the three M and I think the Honeywell

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 2>filters they're pink, so I'm talking about like a screw

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 2>in filter here, although they.

0:28:57.120 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 3>Do make P one hundred masks that are more like

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 3>they more like COVID masks. Yeah, they're just a little

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 3>bit thicker and yeah.

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah they're a little bit more sort of burdensome than

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 2>those masks, but that is what you need if you're

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 2>in those situations. Yeah, so if you have one of those,

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 2>I have ones like when I'm when I'm a poxying wood,

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 2>I have a little half face respirated I wear for that.

0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 2>We will actually talk about masks, Margaret, after some of

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 2>the products and services support the show have talked about themselves.

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:27.520
<v Speaker 3>It'd be pretty sick of a honey Well. Yeah, yeah,

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 3>they'd be pretty small. Yep. All right, here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we're back, thank you, honey. Well, yeah, well,

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 2>keeping us safe from here gas.

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 3>Although I'm kind of a three M girl, I gotta admit,

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh controversial, Okay, I know. So. One of the things

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 3>I did during twenty twenty was a lot of testing

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 3>of protest care. And if you want to see, I've

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 3>written up a whole bunch of pieces about exactly everything

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 3>about masks in body armour and blah blah blah blah blah.

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 3>But in general, when you think about masks, there's sort

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 3>of three levels that actually are matter a useful. There's

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 3>the version that we kind of see as a COVID mask.

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 3>There's a version where it's like you you wear it

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 3>around your face and you make sure you need to

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 3>get a rated one and N ninety five is better

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 3>than nothing for smoke, but a P one hundred is better.

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 3>And then there is a half mask respirator. Half mask

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 3>respirators are great. They are probably the sweet spot for this.

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 3>They are less good for pandemics because they do not

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:32.480
<v Speaker 3>filter the xhale. They are better for your daily life

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 3>because they don't filter the xhale. It's much easier to

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 3>breathe with a half mask. Respirator than a fabric mask,

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:43.719
<v Speaker 3>and you can switch out the cartridges and unfortunately almost

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 3>all of them are various proprietary types of filters, and

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 3>the bayonet mount is the three M style. There's a

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 3>NATO version. If something looks more like a gas mask,

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 3>it's probably the NATO screw on kind. So you can

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 3>get a half mask respirator, or you can a fold

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 3>face respirator, which is more or less what looks like

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 3>a gas mask, but those coming kind of civilian styles

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 3>that are using the same three M brand or Honeywell

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 3>or whatever cartridges, or you can get the more military

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 3>style that'll have the NATO style screw in. The military

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 3>style is kind of overkill in terms of it'll position

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 3>you oddly socially. Yes, set me a fire, Yeah, I

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 3>think that a thing that is worth everyone having. Are

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 3>these respirators a half mask respirator or depending on your life,

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 3>like if you use them a lot, or you're going

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 3>to be protesting, or there's a lot of different reasons

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 3>you might want a full face one. They make really

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 3>cheap knockoff ones that you can get imported, although maybe

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 3>if you're listening to this in the future, you can't

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 3>get it imported, but they work fairly well, they're just

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 3>not quite as good. I've tested a whole bunch of

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 3>them against various impacts and things like that. I think

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 3>that half masks are great. I keep a half mask

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 3>in my truck literally for wildfire smoke, because when I'm traveling,

0:31:57.200 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 3>if I'm driving out west, I've been around wildfire smoke

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 3>while traveling before. Another thing, just really quickly. They make

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 3>these for dogs as well, so cool. They're more like

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 3>COVID mask style. And my dog hates it. Yeah, you know,

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 3>but you could train your dog into not hating it.

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 3>I just haven't. I just keep it around to be like,

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 3>well if it really if we had to sleep in

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 3>the vehicle in a smoky area, my dog would hate it,

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 3>and he would put up with it, you know, and

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 3>he would survive.

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like masks. Yes, they're great.

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they are good. The hat face respirator is great. Yeah,

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 2>that's what I used, like could say when I'm at poxying,

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 2>so I don't get high because that would be bad.

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Oh, and then really quickly about physical stuff like

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 3>deeds and all of that stuff. Yeah. I'm actually kind

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 3>of curious because it's like I see why it matters

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 3>the most to have the physical originals mm hmm for

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 3>most crises. A lot of people talk about how safety

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 3>deposit boxes at banks are kind of the way to

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 3>go for stuff like that you don't need on a

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:51.719
<v Speaker 3>regular basis. This wouldn't be your proof of documentation necessarily,

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 3>but it might be your like birth certificate, maybe like

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 3>deeds and titles and things at a safe deposit box,

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 3>because then if your house burns down, it's still fine.

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 2>La.

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 3>Wildfire kind of disproves this a little bit, right, because

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 3>then you're like, well, what if your bank burns down?

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, And then if.

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 3>It's not on your property, you can't grab it and go,

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 3>So it's a little bit complicated. I think overall, I

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 3>think that there's a real advantage to keeping stuff in

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 3>a safety deposit box off site. And then also I

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:23.719
<v Speaker 3>just want to shout out that fire proof safes aren't fireproof.

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not for the situation and we're talking about here right.

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 3>They are designed for like your kitchen catches fire or

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 3>your bed catches fire, and your safe is under your bed.

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the firefighters come and they get out in

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 2>fifteen minutes.

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 3>But some stuff gets charred right when there is a

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 3>structure fire and a structure is destroyed. Fireproof safes, like

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 3>all other safes, are generally not protecting their contents, and

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 3>that's not the safe fault of the fire safe, it's

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 3>just they're not designed for that.

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 2>Google the melting point of steel for this and many

0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 2>other interesting Internet things that you can learn.

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 3>If jet fuel can't melt fire proof.

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 2>Safe, yeah, which is why they build buildings out of it.

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh and one more thing about documents really quick, While

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 3>the original matters, having copies is like better than nothing,

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:13.800
<v Speaker 3>and also just like scanning and having them on encrypted

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.799
<v Speaker 3>hard like encrypted USB stick, a little USB stick with

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 3>all of your stuff is a really pretty good thing

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 3>to have. It has some advantages too, right, because sometimes

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 3>you don't want the originals of your documents, Like, for example,

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 3>you probably want a list of all of your bank accounts,

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 3>the bank account numbers, your pins or your credit card numbers,

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 3>like all of that stuff that you really don't want

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 3>someone else to have, but if you lost you would

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 3>be really sad. You probably want digital encrypted copies of

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 3>that available to you. Yeah. Yeah, also your like master

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 3>passwords and all that terrible horrible stuff that's scary to

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 3>put onto a USB stick.

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that's why you're putting it then on the internet. Yeah,

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 2>so really quickly, Margaret, it's going to be a long one.

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:54.760
<v Speaker 2>I guess you and I talked about prepper stuff.

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:55.239
<v Speaker 3>It went long.

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, shocking go bags. We've done a whole episode on.

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:03.359
<v Speaker 2>If you're new to the show, Hello Welcome, you can

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 2>go back and listen to Margaret and James talking about

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 2>go bags. We'll try and put a link in the

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 2>description here for you. But what is the like super

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 2>fast speed round version of what you want to put

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:16.879
<v Speaker 2>in your go back?

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 3>Lord, change of socks and underwear, your basic toiletries, like

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 3>the kind of like travel toiletries, because your go back

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 3>is like more like so it's not gona be a

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:28.360
<v Speaker 3>long tangent. Your go back is like more likely I

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 3>have to spend the night in my car than like

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm starting a new life somewhere out in the planes. Yeah.

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 3>And so the small little things like bring deodorant, even

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:38.359
<v Speaker 3>if you don't have deodorant in your daily life, because

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 3>you might be crammed into a place with lots of

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:40.439
<v Speaker 3>other people.

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 2>I've seen tons of requests for deodorant in the La

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 2>mutal a chat almost every day.

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:47.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, it makes a lot of sense. So basic

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 3>toiletries and a little bit extra to share. I think

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 3>whether or not you menstright, you should have tampons for example,

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 3>and your go back, and so I think that the

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:58.839
<v Speaker 3>basic toiletries basic first day's less survival stuff, and then

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 3>like change of clothes, and also like at least one

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 3>or two morale items. I keep a Nintendo switch in

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 3>my go bag. It Skyrim is I need a Skyrim

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 3>box in order to fight anxiety sometimes. Yeah.

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can get those tiny little game boys now

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 2>which have like it looks like a game boy every game,

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 2>every game ever. Yeah, yeah, I have one of those

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 2>in their two okay sick. Yeah, those would be a

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:18.360
<v Speaker 2>perfect item for one of those that.

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 3>Actually I had like almost no electricity at the beginning

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:23.240
<v Speaker 3>of COVID, and so the ability to play the Sega

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 3>Genesis version of Shadow Run from like the nineties was

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:28.880
<v Speaker 3>crucial to me because I didn't have enough electricity to

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 3>run a computer.

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:31.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and look, that's fine, and it's probably going to

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 2>be more important to you than half the shit you

0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 2>see people online putting in their go backs, Like yeah,

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 2>you don't need a gender affirming hatchet.

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 3>You will.

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 2>You will have a lot more fun with your tiny

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 2>game boy things that you don't needther I see people.

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 2>I see people houlding a lot of food. Everyone who's

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 2>evacuated in LA is having a miserable time. They are

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:53.319
<v Speaker 2>eating the best they ever have. So many people want

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 2>to help, and food is a way that so many

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 2>of us express affection and careful one another. So many

0:36:57.719 --> 0:36:59.880
<v Speaker 2>people are getting fed right now, thanks for the efforts

0:36:59.880 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 2>to beat A groups. Really remarkably doesn't seem to be

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 2>so much by you'd think La, a city on a

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:07.480
<v Speaker 2>major fault line, would would have some kind of supplies

0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 2>for an earthquake that required feeding lots of people. Seems

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:13.680
<v Speaker 2>like it's it's more vibes based for the city. But

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:16.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, surprise surprises mutual A groups who are feeding

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 2>people and they're doing that really well. So you don't

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 2>need to hold a lot of food.

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 3>Having a little bit of food though a little bit

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:24.360
<v Speaker 3>of shelf stable food. I really recommend bars you don't

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 3>like as the food that you put in your go bag,

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 3>because if you put in bars that you do like,

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 3>you're going to eat them when you're bored one day, Yeah,

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 3>and you don't want to go to the store.

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:32.840
<v Speaker 2>II doly recommend I say this.

0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 3>Literally all of the bars in all my bags have

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:37.439
<v Speaker 3>been eating yeah the past week. But that's because there's

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 3>been like a winter storm, so I haven't been out

0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 3>to the grocery store and I just have been like

0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:43.480
<v Speaker 3>sugarcreavy and so I eat even the grossbars. I live

0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 3>in San Diego.

0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:45.239
<v Speaker 2>I have no hues so to do it because I

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:46.840
<v Speaker 2>can't be bothered to leave my offace and go to

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 2>my kitchen sometimes.

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So find the one that you don't like, put

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 3>it in your bag. Just have a couple. It's not

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 3>to keep you sustained. It's to keep you from being grouchy. Like,

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 3>don't think of it as like I need to put

0:37:57.680 --> 0:37:59.399
<v Speaker 3>entire meals in my go bag. Think of it as

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 3>like I need enough sugar and whatever to keep my

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 3>headspace right. Yeah.

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:05.879
<v Speaker 2>I kind of like to lay them in between things

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I do is when I'm camping to I'll get like

0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 2>those little peanut butter packets, yeah, and just like just

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:12.919
<v Speaker 2>to throw a few in there. And then you're like, oh, yeah,

0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 2>you know what, I am being cranky And that means

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:19.080
<v Speaker 2>you snuff this and I'm going to be beat at. Yeah.

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:21.279
<v Speaker 2>I do highly recommend peanut butter. I take it when

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 2>I travel a lot as well. It's like a comfort

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 2>food for me. It's filling, it's compact. It's not that

0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 2>bad for you.

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:30.279
<v Speaker 3>When I lived out of a backpack, I kept a

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 3>plastic jar of peanut butter at the bottom of my

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 3>pack always because I knew, no matter what, I had

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 3>at least two days worth of calories in the bottom

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 3>of my bag. Yeah.

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:40.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a wonderful thing, peanut butter. So yeah, put

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 2>some of that in there. There are things that, like,

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:44.799
<v Speaker 2>you probably don't need shelter, right, but it might be

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 2>nice to have a little compact blanket, right, especially if

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 2>you're going to have to stay. One of those one thing,

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:52.319
<v Speaker 2>little comfort item that I always take. I've taken this

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 2>all over the world. It's an inflatable pillow. Like there

0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:57.359
<v Speaker 2>are a lot of hardships that I will endure. I

0:38:57.520 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 2>like to sleep on a pillow, and so I take

0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 2>a inflatable pillow. So it's something that you know, you

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:05.359
<v Speaker 2>will have comfort items like that that are things for you.

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:08.359
<v Speaker 2>I'll put those in there. I would avoid watching too

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:11.319
<v Speaker 2>much go bag content on YouTube because you're going to

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:13.080
<v Speaker 2>get anxious about the fact that you don't have like

0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 2>a folding short barrels rifle. And that's because you don't

0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 2>need it, nor do you need like a Like I'm

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:24.680
<v Speaker 2>sitting next to my bullet profess that I've used before

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:28.359
<v Speaker 2>for work. I'm not taking it with me staying here. Yeah,

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 2>I did spend a lot of money on the plate,

0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 2>so I will be claiming those on insurance. But you

0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 2>don't need that stuff. People are taking care of one another,

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 2>and so pack with the things that will help you

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 2>be comfortable. And consider that you might be spending a

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:46.279
<v Speaker 2>while in a hotel or a hostel or a refuge

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 2>or staying with a friend or family members yea, and

0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 2>think what would make that more comfortable for you.

0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 3>I think that's the really good way to put it.

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:56.439
<v Speaker 3>It's the get out of town for the weekend. Bag.

0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 3>Y's not the end of the world bag. I think

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 3>that if you are more rural, you might want some

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:06.360
<v Speaker 3>basic camping stuff. Yeh, yeah, definitely, but the average person

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:09.839
<v Speaker 3>probably doesn't. I mostly have this at the like there's

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 3>my go bag, and then there's the stuff that's kind

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 3>of always in my truck.

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's where I'm at too. I like to go camping,

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 2>so I have my camping stuff in my truck because

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:18.360
<v Speaker 2>then it takes me less time to go camping.

0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so like, I am almost certainly not bugging

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 3>out on foot from my house. And if I had to,

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 3>then I would have to bring a not my go bag,

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 3>I would have to bring a hiking bag, you know.

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:32.279
<v Speaker 3>Most of the time, if you have access to a

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 3>car and roads, because you're escaping an emergency, you're getting

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 3>to somewhere with enough civilization that you have, you can

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<v Speaker 3>expect some level of shelter and food.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, but I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say, have some water. Don't go overboard, like

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<v Speaker 3>I think that having like a little bit of like

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<v Speaker 3>chemical water filtration and a water bottle or a little

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<v Speaker 3>water filter and a water bottle, you know the reason not.

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<v Speaker 2>To Yeah, I will say specifically, like get a soil squeeze.

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<v Speaker 2>They are tiny filtration, better than most other filters that

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<v Speaker 2>are that size. Get it, put it in your backpack,

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<v Speaker 2>leave it there. They're handy to have, and then yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>get a little uh I like to have again, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a little comfort thing I like to have a

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<v Speaker 2>stain of steel now gene size bottle. It's not made

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<v Speaker 2>by analogy think, it's made by clean canteen. I like

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<v Speaker 2>it so I could drink water out of it. I

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<v Speaker 2>like it because it's not plastic. And I like it

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<v Speaker 2>because I can use it to heat up water when

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<v Speaker 2>it's really cold and have it like a little hot

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<v Speaker 2>water bottle and snuggle with it. Yeah, so that's a

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<v Speaker 2>nice thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I use also like a single wall steel canteen

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<v Speaker 3>so that you can heat water in it. If you

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<v Speaker 3>get the double wall ones, then you can't heat them

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<v Speaker 3>over the fire because they're you know, vacuum insulated or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But then other people I know are like, well they

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<v Speaker 3>want the ability to have like and they're insulated deep bottles. Sure, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know you do you so, I will also say

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<v Speaker 3>battery packs for phones is a big one. Again, you're

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<v Speaker 3>less likely to need to hunt squirrels with axes, and

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<v Speaker 3>you're more likely need to keep your phone charged and

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<v Speaker 3>other people's phones charged.

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<v Speaker 2>One of those little hydra charging cables, which you know

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<v Speaker 2>breaks one.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I was about to say to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>get get.

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<v Speaker 2>One of those, Get a little war water and keep

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<v Speaker 2>it in there, so you can turn a wall socket

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<v Speaker 2>into a USB socket if you need that to charge

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<v Speaker 2>your stuff. Another thing that is surprisingly handy and lots

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<v Speaker 2>of situations is I like to run a lot, and

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you're doing ultramarathon. When you get to the aid station,

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<v Speaker 2>they just have like big things of water, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>you fill up your little water bottles. You're carrying your vest,

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<v Speaker 2>and lots of people have these tiny collapsible cups that

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<v Speaker 2>are made of like a thin rubber. They're made of

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff that camelback gladders are made of. And then

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<v Speaker 2>they can fill up that cup and they can drink

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<v Speaker 2>from it, and they just keep it attached to their vest, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and then off they go running along. Oh interesting, These

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<v Speaker 2>are very useful and I've started incorporating them and lots

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<v Speaker 2>of my travel and like, yeah, emergency supplies because if

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<v Speaker 2>you're in a place where people don't have cups, right

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<v Speaker 2>that they have big things of water. Now you have

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<v Speaker 2>a vessel from which to drink. So those are surprisingly handy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I also keep one of those. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if it's the same one you're talking about it, but

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<v Speaker 3>it like collapses up almost like forty and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like it's like the camping ones, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>way lighter than those.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah Okay, I have the camping style one and I

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<v Speaker 3>keep it in there as a like emergency dog ball.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, those are great for that too, and you can

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<v Speaker 2>drink hot things out of them, which is nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And another thing that I keep in my go

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<v Speaker 3>bag is I keep the meds that my dog is on,

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<v Speaker 3>and I keep some of the meds that I take

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<v Speaker 3>in there. And you know, it's like, my dog only

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<v Speaker 3>gets the meds once a month, So I go to

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<v Speaker 3>my bag and I pull out the meds and I

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<v Speaker 3>give them to my dog from my bag, because why not.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you have, you know, other people, whether they're

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<v Speaker 3>not fully grown yet or are that you also take

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<v Speaker 3>care of, you know, you need to make sure you

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<v Speaker 3>have a little bit of their stuff in there, Like

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<v Speaker 3>like you keep a dog toy in your go bag. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you have a child, keep a child toy.

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<v Speaker 2>If you need to keep medicines cold, there's a product

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<v Speaker 2>called freeo Fio. They're not paying me. I've never got

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<v Speaker 2>one for free. But you dip it in water and

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<v Speaker 2>it uses the evaporative cooling to keep your insulin cold.

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<v Speaker 2>I have used them. Oh, they are very handy, they

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 2>don't rely on electric. It's very nice. So yeah, if

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<v Speaker 2>that's something that you need, then then then that is

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully something useful to you. My last thing would be

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<v Speaker 2>a little torch, a little pocket flashlight, or even better

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:13.959
<v Speaker 2>a headlamp like a head torch, because lots of places

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 2>in La lost power, right, and if you're having to

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<v Speaker 2>go places at night, it's much easier if you can

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:20.840
<v Speaker 2>see where you're going. Yeah, they're not expensive, they're great gifts.

0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Bring a few, give them to friends, make new friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully this has repared you. The last thing, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>Margaret is a gold bullion with Ronald Reagan's face on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I forgot to mention that, Yeah, you need to trade.

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<v Speaker 3>Rather than having a system of mutual aid, which we

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<v Speaker 3>naturally do, instead, we should interject a complicated barter system,

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<v Speaker 3>ideally on the gold standard, in which shiny.

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<v Speaker 2>Metal replaces our naturally instinct to help one another. Yeah exactly, Yeah,

0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:54.200
<v Speaker 2>that's how it's been. That's that's humans, famously not a species.

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<v Speaker 3>Just bring a copy of Debt by David Graeber in

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<v Speaker 3>your Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, bring at the shrugs and then as you pass

0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:02.920
<v Speaker 2>the just start ripping that ship off, throwing it in there,

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:03.520
<v Speaker 2>let it burn.

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<v Speaker 3>Having a paperback book if you like that. It's not

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:11.959
<v Speaker 3>weight efficient, but you know what, like.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how Yeah, yeah, yeah, Bring the Dawn of Everything

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 2>by David Graeber. That'll let'll occupy you through most natural disasters.

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 2>It's a it's a thick book. It is if you

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<v Speaker 2>can't reach something very handy.

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<v Speaker 3>Stand on that.

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<v Speaker 2>He really thought he did us one final solid rap

0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 2>David Graeber.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and and and on rip to David wengro Is love.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, yeah, shout out to David. Wegrow the other

0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 2>David than the less venerated David who also wrote that book.

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<v Speaker 3>I always feel bad when I just talk about Gramer

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<v Speaker 3>stuff and they talk about Thought of Everything, and then

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<v Speaker 3>I don't talk about the other David. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I'll just say the David's and then people will

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<v Speaker 2>look at me and yeah, totally the level. But I know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah big to Margaret, I can say that David's. She

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<v Speaker 2>knows which David's. I mean, that's why we're friends.

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:01.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well anyway, yeah, it's gonna be okay or it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what you weren't going to survive being

0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:07.640
<v Speaker 3>alive anyway. And keep your car half full of gas,

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<v Speaker 3>like when you're on your way home, and make sure

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:11.040
<v Speaker 3>that you fill up if it's less than halfway full.

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<v Speaker 2>Plug your electric car in. Don't skip plugging your little

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<v Speaker 2>electric car in at night. Yeah, because the night that

0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:18.920
<v Speaker 2>you do is you know that you need it. So

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<v Speaker 2>do the little things take care of one another.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it could.

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